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CARAWAY ASKS .S TO HATE LOBBYSTS Senator Draws on Testimony at ‘Inquiry in Radio Farum Speech. B Senator T. H. Caraway of Arkansas, chairman of the Senate subcommittee investigating lobbying, declared in a radio address last evening that the com- mittee’s extended inquiry “will be bar- ren of results if the American people shall not learn to hate lobbying and lobbyists.” | Drawing liberally on testimony wit-/ nesses have given the committee in the last three weeks, Senator Caraway de- | livered a scathing denunciation of those | he described as “seeking to control gov- | ernment.” The Arkansas Senator spoke | in the National Radio Forum, arranged | by The Star and sponsored by the Co- lumbia Broadcasting System, which | was broadcast locally from station WMAL. ‘The question, Can lobbying be justi- | fled? was answered by Senator Caraway | with an emphatic no. Each lobbyist and each agency that contributes money to | a lobbyist seeks to control government, | he asserted, “and each consciously | thereby deprives the unorganized mass of its equal opportunity before the law. Hopes Public Will Ses. “It has been the hope of the chair- man of the committee now inquiring | into lobbying that the committee might give the public a cross-section of that institution,” he said, “that those who have contributed might behold the in- strumentalities which they had em- ployed, and likewise the company with which they had associated themselves. *I am not unmindful,” he said, “that «adse who believe that their efforts have or will result in public good may be offended if they are sought to be brack- eted with such men as Burgess, Grundy, Arnold and the like, and I am glad to declare that as far as their motives are 3nds himself engaged in the same ef- fort—that is, to influence the action of Government and have it accept his view and travel the course he marks out. Each is accomplishing the same result— the destruction of confidence of the public in the integrity of Government.” Benator Caraway referred to William H. Burgess of the United States Pottery Association; Joseph R. Grundy, presi- dent of the Pennsylvania Manufac- turers’ Association, and J. A. Arnold, manager of the Southern Tariff Asso- ciation and related organizations. Each been a witness before the commit- tee. Senator Caraway denounced their activities vigorously, Divided Into Four Classes. ‘There are lobbyists and propagandists, he said. For “convenience sake” he considered them as belonging to four classes. “The first includes those who seek by direct contact to control either the legislative or executive branch of Government, or both, for their own " In class he put the Con- necticut Manufacturers’ Association. ‘The second group, he said, “repre- sents organized effort, seeking by both direct contact and propaganda the same end—advantage for their group.” ‘The third group “brings together those who seek to control Government by financing muuw campaigns,” he said. “They aim to write party platforms. ‘They ‘collect vast sums from special in- terests to corrupt elections. Naturally in that group, and speaking for it, you ‘will find men like Joseph R. Grundy." Senator Caraway described the fourth group as “the most despicable of all, the lobbyists who are the willing tools of any who will pay. They represent oply organized " he declared. % Calls 5 ites. = great majority of lobbylsts— and ther are four and a half pages ‘in the telephone directory of Washington take ug with' their listings—are para- aftes,” he asserted. “They have no ac- aintance with men in_public life. seek to exercise no influence. They er in the widow's mite and the ldren’s es and appropriate to their own use. In return they SENATOR CARAWAY. ASSAILS LOBBYISTS THE EVENING STAR, WASHINGTON, D. C., —star Staff Photo. give nothing. They can render ng serv- ice.” i Senator Caraway said that if all who contribute to lobbyists “could but sce fhe instrumentalities empldyed and the men and women who manipulate them the millions of dollars that annuaily flow into Washington to the lobbyists congregated here would cease.” The text of Sendtor Caraway's ad-| dress follows, in full: Ladies and gentlemen of the unseen and unheard audience, I greet you: The subject of my remarks iS the activities of those who seek to control government. They are divided into two classes—the first is the lobbyist, and the second is the propagandist. They seek the same ends; their means are the same. Lobby and lobbyists have been much discussed in recent weeks. Most people have condemned them; some, however, have sought to justify both. They attempt to divide lobbyists and lobbying into two classes. They con- tend it depends on, what the object is for which one lobbies, as to whether the practice be evil or justifiable. Others— at least about Washington—contend that lobbying is inherent in government and most prevalent in a republic. Are Lobbyists Justified? ‘The question is then raised, Can there be lobbyists and lobbying that are justi- fled?> Does it matter, so far as the right or wrong of the practice is con- cerned, whether the object for which a lobbyist acts be one that, in the judg- ment of at least the lobbyist, is for the public good or whether he seeks only to put money into his own pocket? Mr. Austin of the sugar lobby in his recent testimony before Lhed committee investigating , Sal are divided into four classes, and that he fell into the second class, whose activities he condoned, if not com- mended. I frankly confess that I am unable to agree with him as to his classification, although .I do concede that lobbying as a practice may be, and in fact is, divided into four groups. For convenience’s sake, then, I shall classify them in the following order: | ‘The first includes those who seek by direct contact to control either the legislative or executive branch of gov- ernment, or both, for their own profit. This group, of course, will include those like. the . Connecticut Manufacturers’ ploye, Mr. pay, placed on the Government pay roll as a clerk to a Senate committee, and thus securing for it a direct representa- tive in the secret meet! of the Senate finance committee, the pres- ent tariff bill. Of course, it expected and doubtless did by this device secure great hdvantages for the members of its association and those who are engaged Tailored at Fashion Park in similar business by means of in- creased duties on wares manufactured by them. Lakin and Austin Hit. ‘The second group represents organ- ized effort, seeking by both direct con- tact and propaganda the same end— advantage for their group—and nat- urally you find in it men like Austin of the beet-sugar people, who admitted rather boastfully that he had expended $500,000 to create sentiment for a higher duty on sugar, and Mr. Lakin of the Cuban sugar producers, who disclosed that he had poured out nearly $100,000 during the pendency of the present tariff bill to prevent the raise of sugar duties and the cancellation of the dif- ferential in favor of the Cuban pro- ducers. Both used the same instru- mentalities—propaganda and direct lob- | bying—and both were financed by self- ish interests; interests which expected to profit from pending legislation. The third class brings together those [T who seek to control government by || financing political campaigns. They aim to write party platforms. They collect vast sums from special interests to corrupt elections. Naturally in that group and speaking for it you will find men like Joseph R. Grundy, president of the Pennsylvania Manufacturers’ As- sociation, who before the committee in- i gloated vestigating lobbying actually over the fact that he had helped to raise more than $1,000,000 to finance the last Republican campaign, nearly every dollar of which had people who were interested in tariff legislation; and that he had come to Washington, opened headquarters, and as-a matter of right demands that tariff legislation shall be so framed that these contributors may not only get back their contributions but receive large dividends in excess thereof; that this had been the result in previous campaigns in which he had collected money from the | interests for that purpose; that| same it had paid then, and he expected it to do 50 now. ¢ “Willing Tools Most Despicable.” ‘The fourth and last group—an my way of thinking, the most despicakle of all—are lobbyists, only lobbyists, the willing tool bf any who will pay. \ They serve any master for hire and betray any interest if treachery will g;oflt. ‘They have neither convict! nor. They represent only organized greed. . Of course, with them, and like “Abou Ben Adam, whose name leads all the rest,” is J. A. Arnold, head of the Southern Tariff League, the American ‘Taxpayers' League and other so-called Wm!m who function for profit |} Arnold set forth their creed when before the Senate committee in his oft- | I repeated boast that he “sought money nor_ ap, | tributes | metl come from the | fi d, tol| from all sources and refused it from none.” Many ts would represent any cause or bertray any interest, as - sonal profit might direct. Of there are hundreds in Washington. Not many of them, however, are of the caliber of certain notorious ones, and but few are able to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. But all are alike in this—they keep what they get and serve none but themselves. ing m , 1 wi asl the American pnblic?lob!mn: can be justified, it matters not what the mo- tives that animate the lobbyist nor what the ends sought to be attained may be. “Try to Control Government.” In the last analysis, theirs is an at- tempt to control government and direct it into the channel in which they wish it to flow. And all f those who con- tribute to lobbying enterprises, whether the lobbying be carried on by maintain- ing elaborate offices here in Washing- ton and seeking by personal contact to influence legislative or executive action, or by publicity and propaganda waged throughout e States, by whatever method pursued, the ends sought are the same—to induce the Government to act or not to act as they shall direct. Fohts of the preat ase of unorganised rights of the great mass of unorgan American citizens, called the public? For under our Constitution all men are equal before the law, and the Govern- ment is pledged to hold aloft the scales of justice, swayed neither by passion . But every one who con- to a lobbyist, whatever be his method, seeks advantages, and in his heart must realize that he is engaging and joining with others who are acting with” him and contributing to a like cause to influence government. 'If he shall succeed, then he will have demon- strated that government can be con- trolled by organized effort, financed— it makes no difference by whom—and the pressure being applied either by direct appeal of personal lobbyist or by propaganda. I'say that if he shall have succeeded in demonstrating that government can be t] controlled, does he not invite those government . for selfish ends to employ the same methods, if not the same in- strumentality? Each seeks to control government and each consciously there- by deprives the unorganized mass of its equal opportunity before the law. “Tends to Destroy Confidence.” Therefore can there be any justifi- able lobbying? All lobbying of neces- sity tends to destroy the confidence of the masses in the integrity of their Government, and thus break down public morale.. And may it not be pos- sible—nay, probable—that the growing disrespect for government and disre- November 15 TONIAN ar-keee Dress Overcoats—in ho desire to use|pe Two-Pants High-Class Trimmings 535 " Overcoats $50 St. Albans Tuxedo Suits, silk-lined throughout . .. .. FRIDAY, gard for law may have arisen out of this consciousness that the Govern- ment is being controlled by lobbying and propaganda? In other words, Is it probable that a man will have the same respect for law, although he may ap- prove that law, if he suspects that it l'o” written in the ds‘f.;tute books by bbying or propa; The setious quagt.l?m. then, is, Would it not be better to wait out the processes and delays of government, even though it is apparent that it should act, rather than to demonstrate that you may either control or accelerate its action by the combined use-of money and in- fluence? These are the larger aspects and more serious asppcts of this thing lled lobbying. & ey of the chairman It had been of the commiti now inquiring into lobbying that this committee might give the public a cross-section of that insti- tution; that t° who have contributed might behold tire instrumentalities which they had employed, and likewise the company with which they had a: sociated themselves. I am not unmind- ful that those who believe that their efforts have %l' ;l:lé urea’ult in pu:l}l:'.: may be offen ey are SO 'h?o:e bracketed with notorious lobbyists, and I am glad to declare that as far as their motives are concerned there is no kinship, but each finds himself engaged in the same effort; that is, to influence the action of government and have it accept his view and travel the course which he marks out. Each is accom- plishing the same result—the destruc- tion of confidence of the public in the integrity of government. The great pity of it is that so many of the lobbyists who* hang around Washington make their appeal to the noblest sentiments that inspire human action. They capi- talize every hope and every aspiration of those who feel &an impulse to aid the public weal. “Like Beggars, Filching Pennies.” m women's clubs they take their contributions. They stand like beggars in the schools and filch from children their pennies. 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