Evening Star Newspaper, January 25, 1935, Page 7

“EARLY TESTIMONY BY HAUPTMANN . Yesterday’s Questions and Answers, With Bruno on the Stand. By the Assoclated Press. FLEMINGTON, N. J,, January 24— | Bruno Richard Hauptmann, on trial | for the kidnaping and slaying of Baby Charles A. Lindbergh, jr., took the| stand in his own defense at 3:10; o'clock yesterday afternoon in his| fight, to escape the death penalty. | Hauptmann walked quietly to the | front of the jury box and took the | oath. Hovey Low, deputy who has sat ‘with him, walked beside him and took & position behind the witness stand. He clenched his hands as he sat down in the witness chair. The whole court craned forward to hear. | Q. You are the defendant in this action? A. Tam. Speaks in Gutteral Voice With Marked Accent. Edward J. Reilly, chief of defense tounsel, was questioning the defendant. Hauptmann spoke in a gutteral voice with a marked accent. . When were you born? . November 6, 1899. . Did you attend school. . Yes, 8 years. . When did you first work. . In mine home town as a car- Ppenter. Q. Did you continue to work as a | carpenter until the war broke out? A. Yes. Q. How old were you when you went | to the army? A. 17% years. Q. How long were you in the army? Q. Did that position end on Christ- mas, 19242 A. Christmas, 1924. bQ. How much were you paid on that ? A. Fifty dollars. Mrs. Hauptmann did not look at the witness. Her face was a mask, Ler eyes blank and expressionless, but she was very rigid in her chair. Q. When did you and Anna Schoef- fler marry? A. The 10th of October of 1925. Q. Were you spending all you made? A. I spent a little. Q. Did you open a bank account? A. Yes, downtown at the bridge, a { branch. Hauptmann Testifies Of Early Carpentry Jobs. (Reilly interrupted the examination at this point to call Fredericksen and his wife.) When the examination of Haupt- mann was resumed, Reilly asked him about his Lakewood job. He said he had seen a New York newspaper ad- vertisement, had answered it, and been sent to Lakewood to build a one-family house. Diebig worked on the job with him as his helper. About the time he was married, | Hauptmann said, he worked for a man named Olson. This work was irregu- or four years. When he wasn't work- ing for Olson he worked wherever he could find a job, he said. In 1929 he worked as a carpenter in Mount ‘Vernon. Q. Were you out of work very often during 1928 to 1929? A. Not very often. During 1928 and 1929 he also worked Saturdays and Sundays for some friends, and built three houses. Q. And how much did you make on the job at working overtime in your odd hours on that job of three | houses? A. Oh, it was approximate $1,000. save? A. Well, I took some to the bank, | and some of the money I always keep in the house. A. A vear and three-quarters, I think. Q. Were you wounded in the war? A. Slightly wounded, yes, and| gassed. | Reilly continued his questions. Q. In the public schools did you learn to write German script? A. Yes. . You went to trade school? . Yes. . What trade? . Carpenter’s trade. Leans Forward Resting Elbows on Chair. Hauptmann's answers were in a thin, steady voice. He leaned for- ward, resting elbows on the chair arms and watched his questioner. Q. When did you come out of the army? A. About Christmas time. Q. About a month after the Armis- tice? A. Yes. | Q. Were you able to get any wnrk’, A. No. Q. Germany was in a very condition? A. Yes. Hauptmann kept his glance un- waveringly on Reilly. The lawyer had | cautioned him to keep his husky voice | up as he testified. The jury listened to his testimony | quietly. Col. Lindberg sat firmly back | in his chair regarding the witness | steadily, but without expression. Convicted and Served a Sentence. Q. During 1919 you were convicted of some offense? | A. Yes. The Springtime of 1919. Q. As a result did you serve a sen- tence? A. Yes. Q. Afterward were you paroled? A. Yes. Q. When? 19232 A. Yes, about then. Q. When did you obtain employ- ment? A. About a week after I landed— as a dishwasher. Q. How long? A. About a month and a half. Q. How much were you paid a poor | i Was it about March 6, Accent Noticeable, Making It Hard to Understand. His accent was very noticeable. | Sometimes it made his words hard to understand. All eyes were fixed on him. Occasionally Reilly’s strident voice broke into the spell with a question. | Hauptmann's glance went down to the floor as the questions on his record were put by Reilly. Reilly then led the ashen-faced ex- convict through the story of his first | unsuccessful attempt to smuggle his way into the United States. Then| the second unsuccessful effort. | Hauptmann's voice at times was almost a throb, a husky throb Q. When was the third time? A. November, 1923. Hauptmann related the successive | positions he held after entering the country and details connected with | them. Q. And each time you tried to im- Pprove your position? A. I did. The German, in broken English, told of taking lodging at Ninety- sixth street. Q. In Yorkville? A. No. It is on the west side of\ New York. Q. And then did you finally obtain | & position as a carpenter? A. Yes. Q. How much were you getting—a dollar an hour? A. Yes. Q. How much would that be a day° A. $8 a day. Q. When did you first meet the lady who afterward became your wife? ; A. 1924, Q. Her maiden name was what? A. Anna Schoeffler. Q. Who did she work for? A. Mr. and Mrs. Rosenbaum. Q. Did you finally live in some house in Eighty-eighth street—that\ 3s, Yorkville? A. Yes. Tells of Smuggling | In His House in 1 Q. Did you keep some of the money |in the house? A. Yes, always. | have. Claims He Had $3,500 29. Q. Now, do you remember about how much you had in your house at the end of 1929? A. In 1929 I would say $3,000. Q. Three thousand? A. Three That is a habit I| dred. Q. In cash? A.In cash. Q | made as a carpenter? A. Yes. Q. And saved? A. Yes. Q. Was Anna working all the time until practically the birth of the baby? A. Well, she worked all the time with the exception of two times she went to Europe. Q. Where did she go? A. To her home town. Q. Did she go to visit some rela- tives of hers in Europe? A. Her parents. Q. When was her first trip to i Europe? A. Summertime, 1928. Q. 1928? A. Yes. Q. Had she worked steadily since | she made the first trip to Europe? ried. Q. You were married in 1925, in October? A. Yes. week? A. She makes about $20 or $25, I guess, and about $5 to $8 tips. Q. About $30 or $33 a week. A. Yes. Q. Did she save most of it? A. Well, | we kept our household from the | meney from my wife. Q. The running expenses of the house? A. The running expenses— | | Estimates Wife's Trip | 'QUICK! STOP Abroad Cost $200. Q. The running expenses came from the mcney Anna made? A. That is it. I used to save my wages. Q. You used to save your wages. | Now, when she went over to Europe | in 1928, how much did she pay for | her ticket? A. T can't recall. Q. Did she go second class, tourist class- A. No, she went third class. The round-trip passage cost about $200, Hauptmann said, and his wife stayed abroad about four months. On that trip she took to Germany one | of the three daughters of Mrs. Ella Achenbach, & neighbor. Mrs. Achenbach, an elderly Bronx matron, was the woman whose testi- mony last week provoked Mrs. Haupt- mann to cry out that she was lying, when Mrs. Achenbach related that a day or so after the Lindbergh kid- naping Hauptmann came to her home and she noticed he limped. Mrs. Hauptmann, at thet time, according to the testimony, told Mrs. Achen- bach her husband had injured his leg on a trip. Between 1928 and 1932 his wife con- tinued to work, Hauptmann testified. Q. Did you save your money. A. Yes. Q. Now, in the early part of July, 1931, do you recall that period? A. i Yes. | Says California Trip Planned for Years. Q. You decided to go and take a trip to California; is that right? A. Well, it was decided eight vears ago already. Q. Well, did you decide to go, then, | in 1931? A. Yes. Q. Can you tell us, now, about how much you had in cash, just before | you started for California in 1931? lar, but lasted over a period of three | Q. And how much of that did you | thousand, three thousand five hun-| And that was money you had| she came to America up to the time | A. With the exception of one month, | one or two months, when we get mar- | Q. How much did Anna make a | THE EVENING STAR, WASHINGTON, D. C., FRIDAY, JANUARY 25, 1935. A. You mean by cash all the money in my possession? Q. In the house; in the house, yes. A. Oh, in the house. It was .pp:oxl-l mate a little bit over $4,000. | Q. Can you remember now, without referring to your bank account, how much you had in bank at that ume? A. Around five—five hundred or seven hundred. I really don't know exactly how much there was. Q. Altogether you had about $5,000, didn't you? A.I think there was more. A man named Hans Kloeppenburg accompanied the Hauptmanns to the West Coast and they were gone for three months. In March, 1931, Hauptmann said, he bought a four-door sedan. Q. How much did you pay for it? A. $725 in cash. Q Was it a A. Brand-new. Q. But it was a 1930 model, wasn't it? A. It was. Q. And you bought it in '31? A. Yes. Q. And is that the car that you had when you were arrested? A. That is the car. Q. So you had it, when you were arrested, about three and a half years; is that correct? A. Yes. Q. When was it that you first be- gan to go to Hunters Island? A. That was '28, 20—I guess '28. Tells of Recreation On Hunters Island. Hauptmann sala he and his Ger- man friends used to go to the south- ern shore of the island, where some of the people had shacks and some put up tents. They visited the island often in the Spring and Summer, usually on week ends. There they played cards and soccer and cooked their own meals. Mrs. Hauptmann sometimes went along on these trips, but after she began working Sundays he went alone, Hauptmann said. In Fredericksen's Bakery, where his wife worked, he met early in 1932 a | customer who worked in a Sixth ave- | nue employment agency and shortly | afterwards registered with the agency | for employment, paying a fee of $10 ‘ Q. Where was the first job that you got through that agency? A. That | first job was Majestic Apartment. Q. Majestic Apartments? A. Yes. Q. Now, do you remember what date | | it was in 1932 that you went to lhts\ agency? A. It was 27th of February. | Q. Now, on the 28th—what day of | the week was the 27th, do you remem- | ber? A. Well, I remember 27th was | on Saturday : Q. Yes. Well, then, on the 29th, Monday, did you go any place looking for work as a result of being at the brand-new car. Q. And when you got down there to enhcedldmloeowork? A1 got to the superintendent first you see him? A. I saw him. to wait a little while, about a hllf hour. Then he sald he couldn’t | put me to work and I got to come back on the 15th of February because he said he only hires men on the 1st and on thc 15th. Q. Now, do you mean the 15th of February or the 15th of March? A. ‘The 15th of March I mean. Excuse me. Q. When do you say now that you first went to work at the Majestic Apartment? A. it was the 15th. Q. Of March? A. March, Q. And how long did you work at the Majestic Apartment? A. I quit- ted on 2d of April. Q. Now, April 2, 1932, was a Satur- day; wasn't it? A. It was. (This was the day of the ransom payment.) Q. And what time did you go to work on April 2d? A. The usual time. Q. What was the usual time in New York? A. Ileft the house at 7 o'clock in the morning. Q. And then you worked until what hour in the afternoon? A. We worked until 5 o'clock. Q. Five o'clock. And the Majestic Apartment is how many miles away from your home in the Bronx, approx- imately? A. Pretty near 8 miles, I figure. Testifies He Worked On Day Ransom Was Paid. Q. Now, you heard the timekeeper Edward F. Morton from the Majestic Apartment job testify here, did you? A. Idid. Q. And did you hear him testify that you did not work on April 2? A. I heard it, yes. Q. Do you say positively that you did work on April 2? A. Positively. Q. And you were paid for it? A. Paid for it. Q. And it is a fact, isn't it, as tcsu- fied to by the timekeeper, that the following day was a Sunday? A. Yes. Q. And the next day was a Monday? A. Yes. Q. And that you did not do any work after Monday, you resigned on Monday? A. I originally resigned on try to get my pay check, but I get answer I got to wait till the 15th. Q. Now you were supposed to get $100 a month weren't you? A. Sup- posed to get it. Q. Yes. As a matter of fact all they gave you was $80, isn't that right? A. Yes. Q. 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So that on April 2, 1932, you wuma for the Majestic Apartments the entire day until 5 o'clock at night? A. Five o'clock, yes. Tells of Visitor Coming For “Music Evening.” Q. And about what time, do you recollect now, if you can, did you ar- rive home that Saturday night, April 2, 1932? A. Around 6 o'clock. Q. Now, do you recall the evening of April 2, 1932, after supper? A. Well, when I came home, my wife was home already and around 7 o'clock Mr. Kloeppenburg came in the house because this is usual; our music evening is the first Saturday in every month. Q. Now, did anybody else come there that night? A. No, I don't think so. Q. Do you recall a fellow—did you know a fellow named Jimmie? A. I only know him by name, Jimmie; but I don’t know his regular name. Q. Now, do you recall whether or not Jimmie was there that night? A. T really can't. Q. You have no independent recol- lection, now, have you, whether he was there or not? A. No, I really can't. Q. 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