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WASHINGTON. Views of Leading Democrats on the Nomination at St. Louis. EFFECT OF MR. BLAINE'S SPEECH. Bejoinder of General Belknap to the Replica- tion of the House. A N&W COLOR T0 HIS RESIGNATION. Bonanza Jones, of Nevada, in Defence of Silver, — ————_ €ROM OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT. Wasmrmoros, April 24, 1876, TNE NOMINEE OF THE ST. LOUIS CONVENTION— ‘VIRWS OF PROMINENT DEMOCRATS—PROS- PRCTS OF THE LEADING CANDIDATES AND ‘THE DARK HORSES—WHAT THE SOUTH WANTS. ‘There are democrats here who do not agree entirely ‘with what was sent you by your special correspondent last night om the subject of the democratic candidates, ‘The Hxaarp’s despatch was discussed this evening by weveral of these, oue of whom remarked:—‘You | must not forget, as you appear tu, that to carry rury im October is as meceasary as to carry NewYork in Novomber, and whether any Eastern démocrat can sarry Indianais very doubtful. Mr. Tilden certainly | could not. Mr. Hendricks could, and he is | ®@ stronger man than you thwk. Senator ‘Thurman might carry Indiana, but he might also jose | Ohio, which would be bad, The problem at St Louts is to nominate a ticket.whieh would cortainly carry In- diana tn October and Now York in November, and it not easy tomame the men who will do it among thd prominent candidates.” ‘am to Judge Davis,” said another, “no doubt he would conciliate and draw a good many independent aud disaffected republican votes, but he would proba- bly lose a good many demoerats at the same time. Our people don’t want to repeat the Greeley movemont, Such a plan would bring about greater disgust and failure this time than four years ago. Tbousands of | democratic voters all over the country would stay at dome.” “Bayard would fill the bill better than elther Tilden or Davis,” sada third democrat. “He 1s as popular as | either, and has few or none of their drawbacks. Hos @growing man, and ifhe wereto be nominated with enthusiasm he could probably poll the whole democratic ‘vote and something over. Ifthe election were to be held to-morrow I’m sure he could win the day. But there isa good deal of time for things tohappen between | her stoward being his brother, R. R. Marah, and the now and November, and there is no doubt that the dark horses have an uncommonly good chance at St. Louis, Suppose, for instance, the Convention should nominate Benator Randolph, of New Jersey—he has an excotlent Fecord and is an able man—or Clarkson Potter, of New | feo & Peck’s trading post. During the trip from Sioux | York. He made an extremely fine record in Congress, is Sremarkably clear headed, sound man, with no extreme | ‘OF nonsensical notions on any subject, and his servico on the Louisiana Committce last year made him wall ksoyn throughout the South. Or Senator English, of All these aro democrats, which is cer- tunly ; Bone of them are extreme men, and Randolph and Potter are very favorably known ia the South. Then, if you look West fora dark borse, there is Colonel Morrison, of Illinois; not as well Known as he deserves to be, for ho t#-« very able and sound man. He grows rapidiy in everybody's favor who knows him or sces his work. Morrison could carry Ulinois and Indiana in November, Missouri and other Western States would support him tm the Convention. If the dark horse ts to some from the West au abler one than Morrison York, which wore wanted by tho couusitieo in connes- tion with the of Davenport's work as supervisor of He pleaded the Executive order io of the refusal, but expressed hia cheer- ful willingues} to farnish certified copies of any papers that were warted, To-day the chairman of the commitiee wrote back to Secretary Brigtuw that his committee was duly em- powered by Cat to send for persons and papers, and that, if be Tequest for the documents ip question | was not acceded to, he should be compeliod to resort to the subpena décet tecum, Should Socretary Bristow Coutinuc to resist he will precipitate a controversy about as puzzling in \ts presentation of the question of rela- tive authority as the dispute between the House and tbe courts over the witness Kilbouro, THR MARSHAL'S OFFICER IN CHICAGO—RXTEN- SIVE FRAUDS DEVELOPED—GENERAL 3BAB- COCK's FATHER-IN-LAW INVOLVED—WORK OF DETRCTivgs. There ie Butter to-night among some of the friends administration and among the Ihi- Bois politicians im ¢onsequence of a pending investi- gation of tho United States Marshai’s office in Chicago, under Marshal Campbell, father-in-law uf General Babcock, Messr& Musson, Bridges and Tourtelottc, who bave served.as deputy marshals, bave been sum- moteé before the Committee on Exponditures of tho Department of Justice, of which Mr. Cauldeld ts | chairman. ‘Mr. Munson testified before the committee to-day os to the amounts of money he received. The olject of | the investigation isto show that where deputy mar- shals have only received $1,000, vouchers and receipts have in some cases mn turned into the government covering an amount ay high as $10,000. It 1s alleged | that subpoenas and official papers were sent by mail to distant tor places and the fees for milo- age and per diem allowances charged up as if the pa- pers were sorved personally, It is said that Messrs, | Bridges and Tourtelotte will testify to this, and partics | who are familiar with the conduct of affairs in tho Marahal’s office at Chicago state that a vast amount of | improper mapagemeot, «a well as corruption, has been | connected with it during Campbell’s relations as one of the officials there, ! Washington is crowded with detectives, who aro | moving about qpite actively in connection with the humerous investigations now going on here, NEWLY DISCOVERED ROBBERY BY THE INDIAN RING—THE MODUS OPERANDI OF STEALING FROM THE GOVKENMENT. i Advices from St Paul to-night state that 6,000,060 \ feet of pine lumber, worth over $100,000, has bgen un- lawfully cut from the Red Lake Indian Reservation, and is now awaiting the spring thaw to be moved to Fort Garry anda market, This is alleged to be a newly | discovered pigce of robbery on the part of the Indian Ring, and if so, should receive prompt attention at the bands of Secretary Chandler. ‘The modus operandi of stealing trom the government | at the Westerp Indian agencies will be illustrated ina | day or two before Mr. Clymer’s committee, by a wit- | ness rovently from Bismarck. who will teatify to the | following facts:—The steamer Nellie Peck was | loaded at Sioux City in Julv, 1875, with a full | cargo of government goods, bound for Grand River Agency. The captain of the steamer was Grant Marsh. ‘ i clerk a man named “All” Yerry, Arriving at Grand | Rivor only a fow packages were disembarked, the steamer then proceeding to Fort Peck, where the bal- ance, some $20,000 worth, was landed adjacent to Dur- | City to Grand River the goods were re-marked with a paint brash, A man named 1. C. O’Conner, who is now in the liquor business on Broadway, Now York, was then the Iadian agent at Grand River. i GENERAL WASHINGTON DESPATCHES. Wasuinorox, April 24, 1676. THE SENATOR WROM NEVADA IN DEFENCE OF SILVER—THE BLUNDERS OF ITs PRACTICAL ABOLISHMENT AND ATTEMPTED DBMONETIZA- j impressively trom writton slips aud was listened to god t Payee the original story, upon the authority of | addressed mo the following BLAINE. The Maine Statesman in Auswer to Ourrent Scandals. ———- FALSITY CLEARLY SHOWN. THEIR Written and Oral Evidence Substantiating Tlis Innocence. —_—--— Collateral. Insinuations and Diabolical Innuendoes Demolished. SKETCH OF THE LITTLE ROCK ROAD. pcs A IE Wasuisaton, April 24, 1976. In the House to-day Mr. Blaine, of Maine, proceeded to make a personal explanation in regard to the news- Paper charges connecting him with the Union Pacific Railroad Company. His speech was delivered very with eager attention by every member and person withia the crowded bali, As he concluded there was a murmur of applause from both sides of the hall, and one of a group of prominent democratic members hav- | ing temporary seats near the reporter, exclaimed as he finished his asseveration of innocence beliove it, every word of it,” to which the others replied, | ‘and ao do L” The following is Mk. BLAINE's SPRRCU: — Mr. Srkakxk—With the leave of the Houso so kindly granted, 1 shall proceed to submit certain frets and correct certain orrors personal te myselt, The dates of the correspondence enivruced in my statement will show that it was impossible jor ne to make it earlier, I shall be as brief us the circumstances will permit : For some mouths past a charge against me has been | civeulating ib private, and was recently made public, | designed to suow that 1 had iu some indirect manner received the - large eum of $64,000 from the Union Paciéic Railroad Company in 1871. For what services for what purposes has never been stated. or T proof of this serivas accusation was based, HL. Rolling; Treasurer of the Uuton Pacitic Company, who, it was averred, had full knowledge that | got the , aud also upon the authority of Morton, Bliss mo eu for ben 10,, bankers, of New York, through whom tho draft $64,000 was said to havo been negotiated for my —, some weeks in advance of its publication, | pro- the following statements from the two principal witnesses who wore quoted as having such deilnite LEFTER PUOM ME. ROLLING. Umion Paciric RaituoaD Company, Bostox, Mass. Mareh 31, 1878. Dear Sin—In response to your inquiry I leave to pane an respatee, erets ily Mlaasien | road Com; th ince April 8, . have nece: ily | « ing that entire period up to the present time I am sure that no money has been paid in wny way or to any person by the company in which you were iuterested in any manner whut. | ty the company. to you and to myselt. Very respectiully, E. H. is. LETTER OF MORTON, BLISS & CO:— Nw Youx, April 6, 1876. _ J ms bie aps ALS pag ne ma — cali th GAB SIR—In anuwer to you we say that | . ber evidence of value hus ever | Rysed te have angrinterest, of any Kind remiain, very respectfully, your ovedient servim pang lbs 1 YOMORTUN, BLIse & CO. & Co, said that its denial soemed to be confined to any payment that through their “books,” ‘whereas they might have paid a draft in which I was On this criticism be made to the firm they at once. ster :— ew Yous, April 13, 1876, Deas Sin—it bas gested tu us that our lover of the Gth inet. was not sufieientiy inclusive or vxctusive. In thas letter we stated thus co draft, note of check ve usher elit, us they confidently kaew. earing of this knowledge against me:— Hon, James G. Buainx:— } Known of ail the disbursoments made . War | ever. I make this statement in justice ROLLL Be note oF eheck. or atber passed Some persons, on reading the letter of Morton, Bliss interested, and yet no entry of it made on their books. Hon. J. G. Bustxn, Washin |. D. C= jon. a, Washington evidence of valno had ever passed shrouyh, our a | which yeu were known or suppvrod to heve interes Pongal gent ng Ld " rior seat boy: ai ‘been paid by us in any form or ut any time to a1 F corporation in waleh you wore known, believed oF | son oF any corpor Wie tecanka: very seeperttely. pour avediont ta, No tensts, ily. your ubedient servan ‘ ORTON. BLISS & CO. TION—AN AMERICAN METAL, During the consideration in the Senate to-day of the Dill to amend the laws relating to legal tender of silver coin Senator Jones, of Nevada, came to the defence of his favonte meteiin & manner worthy of his old-time vould not be found.’ And he, t00, is a democrat. He | senown, fe said:— fought for the Union, his record is unexceptionable, the Germans like him, and, though you Eastern people do not know him very well, he is mighty well known In the West, whore 1t would not be ditficult to get up a Very@lively enthusiasm over the honost and modest fellow. “‘All your dark horses are sound on the currency, I Rotice,’’ said a listener. The rep y was:— “Yes, and all the prominent candidates are sound on the currency. The inflation movement is making no Beadway among the Western democrats. It was a fever, and there are signs that it is dying out Our platform at St. Lous will depend, necessarily, some. ‘what on the shape of the Cincinnati platform ; but our eurrency plank will not differ materially from that of the republicans unless they make a blunder. It is not so much his hard money record which will kill Tilden there, 1f he is killed, ae a genera! belief in the West Maat the shrewd Governor played for his own hand last fall, and was too ready to let Obio be lost in the hope Vhat bis own strength in New York would then make bim master of tho situation, Our poopico do not teadily forget a suspicion of this kind Besides, Til- fen lives too far East; he might lose both Indiana and Ohio, and might, after ail, leave New York uncertain, Bat Tilden and his friends are working, and, if hard | The wrongalroady done couldnot be undone by in- The act of February 12, 1878, Practically abolishing silver as money, wasa grave wrong upon people of tho whole civilized globe in the interest of a few plato- rats in England and Germany, and as certainly in the interest of the whole pagan and barbarian world—a wrong upon industry, upon the natural tendency of wealto toward equalization, and upon the liberties of people in certain senses. he Senator proceeded to argue in favor of the double standard of both and silver money. In case no such amendments had been made to the pend- ing bill as have been offered by th souri the speaker had intended to offera amend- mento restore the double standard of United States and to base the system of money upen the money of the world, upou which it 1s not now based. direction, The undoing must be as open and explicit a8 the doing was indirect.and implied. ‘The Senator proceeded with an exhaustive bistory of | the supply and consumption of the precious metals in | Europe from the earliest times, the materials for which had been collected by wonderfully industrious research, He also traced the history of the relative value of gold and silver, When about balf through the Senator stopped speaking and the Senate adjourned. GENERAL BELENAP'’S BEJOINDER TO THE BEP- LICATION OF THE HOUSE—A NEW CAUSE As SIGNED FOR MIS RESIGNATION—ALLEGED UN- DERSTANDING WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE and skiltul work wij do it, he may got the nomina- tion. He is the 0 and the most driving poli- tician im the de: party. He learned his trade (mn New York. 4 “That sort of thing will not work so well this time,” gaid another speaker. ‘We are going to try to carry ‘hid election, and we can’t afford to nominate anybody because he works hard for it. If Mr, Tilden, in the general belief at St. Louis, cam most certainly win, when he’ll be nominated; but we have got a good many other men as sound and with as clear «record ashe; aad thero will be men at the Convention who know how the vwountry feelin.” “As for us,” said a Southwestern man, ‘‘we do not moan to have any favorites. You of the North must make the ticket. It is easy for us to see that nobody in the North like us rebels. You people are notnearly as well reconstructed as woare. It is 0 good time for us to stand aside and let the Northern men pick out the eandidates, All we want is an honest aad able man who can be elected, and tho stronger Union man ‘be was during the war the better for us. It won’t hurt the domoeratic candidate {n the South if he fought ia the Union army.” This ended the conversation, which gives somewhat oughly the views of several democrats, some of them Rot without influence im their party, Me. BLAINE’S REPLY TO HIs ACCUSERS—THE E¥YRCT CREATED BY HIS SPERCH. A considerable audience gathered in the House to- day, drawn by o rumor that Mr. Blaine would reply to the charges which have recently been brought against bitm in the newspapers. His remarks took up about twenty minutes, and were listened to by both sides of the House with evident interest. When he closed there was some applause and conversation, the latter show- ing that he impressed not only the republicans but the democrats favorably, 2s having made a irank and satirely satisfactory refutation of what Las been said. FROM OUR REGULAR CORRESPONDENT. Waanixorox, April 24, 1876. TRE RELATIVE AUTHORITY OF THE KXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BEANCHES OF THE GOV- ERUMENT—REFUGAL OF THY. FORMER TO FUR- NISH OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS TO THZ COMMIT- ‘TEES, AND WHAT IT 18 LIKELY TO LEAD TO. Somo oue said the other day tha: this was to be a year uf precedents, 11 wil be remembored that we very grave question of relative authority of the judi- cial and legtsiative branches of Ure government ts in- voived in the argamert now hoing In the Hallett Kilbourn habeas corpus case betore Judge Cartter in the Supreme Court of the District of Columbia, It is pot aulikely that a similar couthed may arise between the executive acd the legislative branches. The Cab- inet meeting of Friday last came to a decision not to ailow the records of the exeentive departments w go out into irresponsible hands, and Sec. retary Bristow, in responding to @ request of ihe Committee on Expenditures in the Department of Justice refused tv give the vouchers showing the x } penditures uf the United States Marshal's office at New | | Marsh for the impeachment of him (sad Bolkpap), COMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE. Just before the office of the Socretary of the Senate was closed, ut balf-past five o'clock this alternoon, the counsel for William W. Belknap filed with Secretary Gorbam General Belknap's rejoinder to the replicaiion of the House of Represontatives in the matter of his impeachment. A general demurrer is interposed to the first of the two replications, alleging its iwaufficiency. He next denics the statement contained in the second Teplication that he was Secretary of War until and 11 cluding tbe 2d day of March, 1876. He then denies the assertions of the replication to the effect that he was Secretary of War until a commitiee having authority from the House had investiguied bis official conduct, and asserts that up to the time of his resignation the House had not given authority to any comnittes to imvesti- gate any @f the matters set forth in the charges made against him in the articles of impeachment, Ho tur- ther says that, although it 1 true that the Commitieo | on Expenditures of the War Depart it had been pre- tending to make some inquiry into the matters set forth im the articles of impeachment, but without au- thority in that behalf trom the House of Represonta- tives, yet the said commitsee had nut compictod ite pretended investigation, but was engaged in tho exam. mation of witnesses when said committee was formed that he bad resigned his office of Secretary of War and that hie resignation bad been accepted. ' The last plea of the rejoinder contains important | fresh matter, and embodies the statement that the ex- Secretary’s resignation was brought about by a remark of Mr. Clymer, chairman of the committee, to said | Bolknap, that ke (the sald Clymer) should move in the | Mouse of Representatives upon the statement of said | unless the suid Belknap shoud resign Lis position ag Secretary of War before noon of the nexi day—to | wh, March 2, 1876—and said Belknap regarding this statement of said Clymer, chairman as before said, as an intimation that Le (said Belknap; coulé by ‘thus resiguing avoid the affliction inseparable from a protracted trial in a ferm which would uttract the greatest degree of public attention, aod the bumiliation of availing hirosell of the deteuce diacloved tu anid state. | ment itself, winch would cas: binme on © certain other | person, he yicidea to the suggestion roade by said | Clymer, chairmaa, as atornean, beheving that the | same was made ia good nice by eaid Clymer, chair- mae as aforesaid, and ibat he said elkoap) would, by resigniog his position as Secretary of War, secare the speedy distitxnal Of sald Atatement from the pubile | mund, whet eaid statement, though it isvolved ne | criminality oo his part, was deeply pamful to bis teel- ings, aad did resign his said position as Sceretary of ‘Wor at ten o'clock and twenty minutes in the forenoon Of the 2d Guy of Macch, 1876, and st eleven o'clock ta the furenvon of Uke day ant year last aforesaid. i SALE OF GOLD ORDERED BY 18 SRCARTARY OF | TE TREASURE. i The Secretary of the Treasury Las directed the As- sictaut Preasurer at New York to sol! om Tharsday . Senator from Mis- | The two witnesses quoted for the original chargo | | having thus effectually disposed of it, the charge itself | | reappeared in another form, to this offect, viz. :—That | | @ Certain draft was negotiatod at tho house of Morton, | Bliss & Co,, in 1871, through Tuomas A Sveti, shen | Premdent of the Union Pacific Rutiroad Company, for | tue sam of $64,000, and tuut $75,000 of the bunds of the | Liuie Rock und Fort Smith Railruad Company were | pledged us collateral; that the Union Pacitic Company | pald the aratt and took up the collateral; thut | the cash rocecds of it wont to me, and | or i’ some | | way conveyed of transictred to Thomas A. } Scott these Little Rock and Fort Smith bounds whieh | | Bad been used us collateral; thet the bonds in reality | | Bad belonged to me or some iriend or constituent of | mune for whom I was acting. Ll endeavor tw state tho | Charge in its boldest formand in all its phases. Ide. | | aire here and now to deciaro that all and every part of | this story that connects my name with it is absuiutely uotrue, without a particle of foundation in fact, and | tittle of evidence to substantiate 1, I never nsaction of any kind with Thomias A. Scott | bonds of the Little Reck and Fort smith — i, bot of any other railroad, or any busi- | Bess in any way convected with railroads, directly or tudirectly, pene cogen Sh remotely. i never had any | | business transaction whatever with the Union Pacittc Rutiroad Company, or any of its officers or ageuts or | | Tepresentatives, aud nover in avy manner received a | single dollar in money or stocks or bonds, or | | any other form of value from them; and as 10 the | particular transaction referred wo I never se much as | j Keord of it until nearly two years after its alleged | q it was talked of at the time of the | Crédit Mobilier imvestigution in 1874 But, while my | denial ought to be conclusive, 1 should greatly regret to be compoiled to leave the matter there. Iam for- tunately able to sustain my own dociaration by U Most conclusive evidence that human testimony can supply. Lf any person persons know the truth or tulsity of these charges | inust be the officers of the Uni ite Railroad Com. | puny. laccordingly addresved a note to the President | ot the company, u gentleman who bas beeu a dircctor | } | it the cuge admits of or | of the company from its organtzation, I bel erat who bas a more thorough avquaintacce with ite ; ness transactions, probably, ihan any other mau. The | correspondence, which | bere suvmit, will explain itsoM, and leaves nothing tobe said. | will read the | letters in their proper ord They need no comment | MR. BLAIKR TO MR. DILLOX. / as April 13, 1870, | Sipwry Dirox, Esq., President Union Vacilic Railroad :— ‘DeaB 31n—You have doubtless observed the scandal now | in circalasion in reyard tw my having beon interested in cer tain benus of the Little Kock and Fort swith road, alleged to have beew put by your com ae It be duo MM, DILLON TO MR, BLAINE, Orrice oF tax Unsox Paciric Ratiwoap Comrany, Youx, April 15, 1 i i Sin—l have your favor th inet, and tn reply | devire to say that [ heve this day weitven Colgnel Thomas Score, ‘who whe President of the Uulon Pacific itailroad | | Company: atthe time of ue transection roerred te wetter, | ay. ven By ed poet era Coserewe his reply 1 | will e it to you. or - NQ{DNEY DILLON, President. | New Yous, April 1 Covomz:, Tagmas A. Bcort, Mhiladelphia, Pa. { Dxas Bin—The press of the country are making allega- | Jums that certain busds of the Little Rock and Fort smith by nag gp manne by the Union Pacific Kall- road in 1871, were obtained trom Hon. J | Maine, or that the avails in some torm ‘th ot the aad ih yourself. 1 tate. ty Mr, Bialne and to the Union iy. There " were vever any incts to | juk that a statement to the public due both trou you and myself, 1 desire, as President of a0 fact t ry company, to repel any such inference in the atic | manner and wonld be a ee OnuY pile jujyeot. Very reapecsfully, SIDNKY DI osideut. LLON TO ME BLAINE. La Orrics ov tux Union I actric Rat.noap Comrant,} Mou. Jauud G. 1 w. Kew Yoru, Ne, Washington, advised you pod «Sala days ago, I wrot we to enclose yor the eaclosed letter. DILLON, Prosident. 14, April 21, 1470, has stated SIDNEY a wi HTL ADE! Eon, fi Union Pacibe iteitrvad rom ec | ar ‘Stm— bave your letter under date Now York, Apel 18, eating thet, she promot, the country ing tions that certain bunds of the Little Jtuck and Fort smith Kailroad the Union Pacific Kailroad were obtained trom Hun. J. Blaine, of ‘the avails im some form weut t> bi facts ‘were not Iudireet!, Stone ae Union Pacibe Ratiro: of the avails of donde, not one ly or Company, or to Mr. Bialue | oF te any person for bim or tor bis ve: etatoments to the effect that Mr. Blain had any traus- action with me, di or ving money vt juabies of any kind, ave abso without 1 take pleasure in maki: js statenvent to you, aud may vee It in any manner wast for thie in- Zine Union Pacite Ratiroad Company, Veey waly yours, THOMAS A. SCOTT. next the gold to be pasd into (he Treapary om aucount of bands rokl to pay swards of jedgmeuts af ibe Com- wmissioners of Alabaroa cial. Detivertes of he will be made as tubowa: 900,000 ou the day vf re- Lue propoes!s if desired uy the porcRaser or Mra on nel way Gucma ee ot rat may + met on shat . on wing and $1,000,000 on tach succeeding dav uatil the wiel whole amount is delivered. And this closes tbe testimony | bave wished to offer. of them, doubtless, irom | wy j When the company was reurganized in 1874. 1 ox- | road derived all that it bad from the State of Arkansas | slightest senso wi | intimate aod imfamous relation, Let mo now, | United Pasifie Kail NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, APRIL 25, 1876—TRIPLE S myself was before the committee in thirty-six boars after its first meetinz, | was compelled to wait for more than er meathanindanss seventy full | got ablic soi" a oer and vindicating I had asked for to gute the compelicd to wait its necessarily siow action with charges all the while hanging over me undenied and ‘wnanswered, and uding the ings of an in- vestigation which [ had wyself asked propriaty would have forbidden my collecting and Dublin the de- cistve proofs which 1 have now subdinitied. For these reasons I have deemed that tho shortest and most ex- Nious mode of vindication was the ope whicn I was und to choose by every consideration of myself per- sovally and of my official relations. 1 have uot omitted the testimony of a sii Material witness to the trans action on which the accusation against me is based, and, unless I mtsapprebend the seove and force of the testimony, it louves no agains = me. Tu any and all events } am ready to wobmit the whole matter to the candid judgincat of the House and the country, aud if the House thinks the matter should be further inquired into I beg to express my evtire readiness to give ail the assistance in wy power tO make the 1ovestigation as thorough, as rigid and as impartial as possible, To give a seem! corrob- Oration of fuundation to the story which | have dis- proved, the absurd rumor has iately appeared in certain newspapers that 1 was the owner of from $150,000 to $260, of the Little Rock and Fort Smith Railroad bonds, which I received without consideration, and that it was from these bonds that Thomas A. Scott received his $75,000. ‘The statement is gratuitously and utterly false. No responsible author appears anywhere for this unfounded story, but in dismissing it 1 desire to make the following explicit statement :-— TUE ARKANSAS RAILROAD More than twenty-three yeurs ago, im the days of Mr. Fillmore’s adminwmtration, the government granted to the State of Arkavsas some public lands ‘witbin its own limits, to be applied to the construction of railroads in that State. The Legislature of Arkansas ineorporated the Little Rock and Fort Simith Railroad Company the same year and gave to the company a portion of the lands it bad received from the general government to aid in the construction of the road— about 6,000 acres to the mile, | think—but the com- pany were unable to raise any money tos the enter- priae, though they made the most strenuous efforts, ana Wien the war broke out 1n 1861, eight years alt the Sicte bad given the lands to ‘the coi pany, net a mile of the road was built. | OL course nothing was done during tho war. | Atter the war, all the grants of land previously mude: | to the Southern States were received in gross, In the | seasion of 105-6 the Little Kock and Fort Smith | Company again received a grant trom the State and | again tried to raise money to build their road; 1865, | pt 1867 passed without their getting a dollar. | Finally, toward the close of 1863, a company, of Boston | gentlemen representing considerable capital undertook Ms construction, In raising the requisite us they placed the bouds on the New England um iu the summer of 1869, offoring them on terms which seemed | very favorable to the purchaeer, aud offering them at a time when investments of this kind were lataly poy ular. * In common with hundreds of other enple in New England and other parts of the coun- 1 bought some of theso bonds, not a Very large amount, paying for them at precisely the | #arpe rate that otners paid. I never heard, and do not | believe, that the Little Rock Company, which I know | 48 controlled by highly honorable men, ever parted | with a bond to any person except at the ‘regular price fixed for their sale. ‘The enterprise, though appar- ently very promising, proved unsuccesstul, as di many, sincilar projects about the sume ume. I lost a considerable sum of money—over $20,000—by my in: | ‘Vestinent, aud, 1 presume, New Englaud made a net | ot $2,000,000 in completing that roud Jor Arkansas, | agsho las lost over $100,000,000 by similar ventures West und South within the last twelve years. In addition to my mvestinent in the bonds I united ‘with others in raising some money for the company when it met its first financial troubles. Proceedings are now pending in the United States Circuit Court of | Arkansas, to which | aun a party of record, for the re- tmbursement’ of the woney #0 advanced. All the bonds which I ever purchased { continued to hold | changed them tor stock and bouds in the new concern, which I stili own, My whole connection with the road | has beeu as open as the day. Itthere had been anything to conceal about tt I should never have touched it, | Wherever couccalment is dosirable avoidance is advis- able, and I do not know any better test to apply to the | honor and fairness of a business trausaction. As to THK QUESTION OF PROFRIKTY tnvolved in a member of Congress Bolding an invest ment of this kind, it must be remembered the lands | ‘were granted to the State of Arkansas, and not to the | hn Uy company, and that the cumpany derived its Mie, franchise aud value wholly from the State, and to | the State the company is amenable and answerable, | nd pot in any seure to Congress. Since | purchased | the ‘bonds but one act of Congress has passed in any way touching the subject, and that was merely to rec+ tily @ previous mistake in legislation, I take it, when any security, from government boudsto town scrip, is | olfered at public to any one who can Pay 1 tor it overy American citizen is freo to buy. If | you exclude a representative from the invost- ment on the ground that in some secondary or femoto way the legislation of Congress | has uffected or inay aifect the value of the article, then | can py every man on this floor, not only from | olding a government bond or a share in a National bank, but aiso trom owning a flock of sheep, or utleld | |ioe heinp, or a tobucco plantation, or a cotton mill, or an | iroi pace; for all these interests are vitally al by the tarit ‘iegislation on which we vote at every sea. | sion, aud of wiich an important measure is evea now | pending in the Committee of the Whole. i In the seven intervening years since Little Rock | and Fort Sun:th bonds were placed ou tho market I | know fow investments that have not more af- | fected by the legislation of Congress. But this case | does not réquire to be shielded by any such compari- sons or conditions, for, I repeat, the Littie Rock | and not ttom Congress. It was in the discretion of Congress to give or withhold from the State, but it was sole! (Bes the discretion of the Stato to give or withbold from the Little Rock Railroad Company, , When the Little Ruck road fell into the Mnancial | | troubles of which I have spoken there were | CRUTAIN INTERESTS | connected with it that wero under peculiarly pressing | embarrassment and that needed relief. There had been | at different tumes very considerable talk about inducing | the Atlantic and Pacific road, which on its soutbern branch was to be a connecting line, east and weat, with the Little Rock and Fort Smith, and the Missourt, Kan- sus and Texas roads, which would be a counecting line both north and south, atthe pomt of junction, to aid | the Listle Rock and Fort Smith enterprise by taking some of its securities—a practice very common among | connecting rouds. To both these roads the com- | pletion of the Little Rock road was of very great importance. Accordingly, im the | spring of 1871, when only one coupon bad been , ory by the Little Rock Company on ono series of its | nds and none passed on the otner, aud when there | ‘was sanguine hope of getting the enterprise on ite feet ngain, ibe Atlantic: wook $100,000 | of its stock for and the Mis- | wourt jor the corporation itself, but jor an interest largely construction of the road. With #1 ending the. negotiations with lantic and Pacific roud | was entirely familiar, and with | several of its officers I had long been well acquainted. | T also knew of the negotiation with the Missouri, Kun- sas and Texas though I never, to my knowledge, | Saw any of its officers, and never bad ao interview with apy of them on any subject; but in the case of both roads [ desire to say’ tbat the bonds old to them did not veloug to mé nor did I have one jollar pecuniary interest in the whole transaction with either company. * | ‘THE IXPAMOUS INSINUATION | i made in certain quarters that I engaged to use my in- | ce iu Congress for the Atlantic and Pacific road ju | and also for the Missouri, Kansas and Texas road in con- sideration of their purchasing these securities harcly merite notice, The oflicers aud directors of both com- punics, so fur as I have known the one and heard of the other, ure high toned, hunorable gontiemen; and they would have justly syurned me from their pres- ence had I been willing to submit an offer 50 dishooor- able und mutually degrading. I had no pecuniary stake in the negotiation and I should have joved iu- famy tor infamy’s sake had I barte: ed my personal and official honor in the traveact:on; and | am sure that every men connected with either company would repel the dishonoring suggestion as warmly as I do mysell, The whote afiair bad no more connection with Congressional legwlation than any one of the ten thousand similar transactions that ure coustantly occurring m the business world. Ot alike charactor with the iusinuation just answered is that which in an irresponsibie and anonymous way Wempts to conuect the ownership of Little Rock and Fort Smith bonds with Jegisiation of last winter respecting the State government of Arkansas. There accusations whict it 18 dificult to repel with foree because of their mixture of absurdity, depravity und falsehood. 1 never board this stupid slander wotil @ tew days and | venture to say there is not @ tion between the two things that are alleged to healing iF. Speaker, brielly suuumarize what | have presented :— SUMMARY OF 11 STATEMENTS, First —That the story of my receiving $64,000 of any | other sum of money or anything of valuo from the | Company, directly or indi- reetly, or iu apy form whatever is absolutely disproved | by the most ive testimony. i Second—That no bond of mine waa ever sold to tho Atlantic and Pavitic of the Missours, Kansas and Texas | railroad “companics, and that not a single dollar of | mouey from esther of these companies ever went to my protit or bevetit, Third—That instead of receiving bonds of the Little Rock and Fort Smith Road as a gratuity, | never had | one except at the regalar market price, and that im- | atead of waking & large sortune of that company I bave | incurred A SEVERE PECUNIARY LORS from my Investment in its securities, woieh I still | ; of much pular | gossip of large Jory hardiy expect, ve will stop ot pers trom Boston to Omaha and jations to cot joadiny repal whispered of reve- hat were too terrible even to be spoken in Joad tones; and at last tho revelations have been made. Tam now, Mr. Speaker, in the fourtecath year of 9 not inactive service in thie ball; | have taken aod have given tiows; Ll have no doubt sald many thiogs in the heat of debate which I would now giadly recall; Thave no doubt given votes which, im fuller light, would gladly ebange, but | bave never dooce any thu | ganization of tho party. | These delogates aro unti-Tilden men, TILDEN AT UTICA. ‘To-Morrow’s Convention and Pros- peets---More Canal Ring Tacties. The Situation im Cayuga, Seneca, Wayne, | Monree and Oricaus Counties. THE HOME OF THE LORDS. Tamwany'’s Widespread Combination Against the Governor, Efforts to Place Horatio Seymour in the Field. Unica, April 24, 1876. T have just concluded a tour of observation through | the Canal Ring districts of the State, where the head centres and chipf lieutenants of that noted organiza- tion hve and vegetate. A tour of this description at the present time might be aptly compared toa walk over a battle field after tho contest had ended. The only distizction that can be made is as to the difference Detween armaments of destruction used—on one side gunpowder, cgunon and hard steel, and on the other Governor Tilden’s famous Canal Message of* April, | 1876. The smoke and evidences of carnage, in a politi- cal sense, remain. Ruined hopes, lost characters, wbattered fortunes, withered aspirations—all such tokens strew the ground in Central Now York, more | particularly in Onondaga, Monroe and Cayuga coun- tes Butthe real shock of battle baving ceased and the | dense smoke cleared away, the worsted warriors, only Placed hors de combat by His Excellency, have again | quietly mounted their steeds and move cautiously be- hind the attacking columns now advancing upon Mr. Tilden’s hitherto impregnable position. The fact is, he Canal Ring are by no means “DEAD, RUT SLREPeTH”? Many stray shots from the Governor's mitraiileuse Messages have wounded powerful friends of the demo- cratic party throughout the entireState, ‘These gentio- ‘tmen were not identified in any way with the villanies of the Canal Ring; but tho motto, ‘Tell me your com- pany and J will tell you what you are,’ gavo credeveo | to false reports. They had thus to submit to ignominy and the sober second thought made them ecuomics of the Governor, They contend he hada right to protect his friends in striking at his enemies. tion for complaints of this character. contained the names of some of those parties. They aro all good and truo men, with a large following and animated by honest purposes. A representative of class is ex-Judgo Patrick Corbitt, of Syracuse. Ho lawyer of fine ubilities, unupproachable in éharac- ter and an ornament to any party with which he might ec be identified. There are many others in this same | Jocality of equal distinction, They have been ignored by the Govornor and his friends in making up the or- ‘They naturally aud properly tool uggrioved. IM CAYUGA cousTY. There are two Assembly districts in Cayuga county, which send six delegatos to the Convention of the 26th. They are as fol- lows:;—Firat district, Charles Margeron, Samuel Bib. bins, Charies H. Curtis; Second duirict, KE. P, Ross, John Nibbs, Hull Greentield, Aubura, home of State Treasurer Ross, 1s situated in this county, and also wo have the State Prison appointments, wnich regulate to some extent the politi- eal complexion of the locality. Only ninety appoint- ments aro to be given away in the prison, som) Uiteen | of which go to tue county. In Auburn, alone, [ was in- formed that between 300 and 400 patriots were on hand, anxious to serve ghe State in those positions, When only Gfteen could bethosen cf course the balance of the 300 went home and vowed vengeance against the Gov- eruor’s party. As the resuliof the last election the democrats control this patronage, and by democrats in this connection 1s meant Governor Tilden. Auburn is the home vo! Senator William B. Woodin, #is opponcat last November was Mr. Charles F. Durston, a protmi- ‘nent und popular lawyer of the town. The gentioman | lied a heavy vote, comiug within somo 388 of beat- ing Woodin. Taix' must be considered a very close | race when jt is understood thut a few years ago Mr. Woodin’s majority went over 4,000. Mr. Durston has been given the importaut position of Warden of Auburn Pron, principaily throagh the influence of Governor ‘Tilden,’ Mr, Rows, uluhough knowu to be ap anu-Tildea man, also aresident of Auburn, was nominated jor State Treasurer at Syracuse last November. He was given u place on the ticket, ax explained to me, on tue. supposition that ho would be able to secure Lorabip of his district—consisting of Seneca and Vayuga counties—for the democratic party. The antict- pation has not been realized. The Koss party, ax the apu-Tildeu party 1s devomiuated here, have carried the primaries for delegates tu Utica. M ‘ol the State, set down as an Tilden man, the Senatorial distri again in the bands of republicans, an opposition delegation irom the whole Congressional district—Wayne, Seneca and Cayuga counties—gocs to Utica, so that this political game was kuocked 1m tho head. Mr. Durstou, however, has been with the wardenship, and a very efficient warden he ap- pears to be. MONROE COUNTY SENTIMENTS, Rochester, Monroe county, isthe home of the Lord family, also made fumous by the caual exposures, ‘The ex-senator, Jarvis Lord, is at present in Florida tur the benetit of his health. His son, George D. Lord, who awaits a second trial under indictment for cunal trauds, 1s stillean Aldermun of the ety of Rochester. At the recent election tor delegates the Lords took no fotive part. It is understood that the delegates elected will oppose @ pledged deiegution to 8t. Louis, As with other Canul Ring ciements which went under in the terrible ousianght made by the Governor, the Lora influenco 1s by no means dead. if they have no direct intuence belore the poople they are said to wield coa- siderable power with persons who occupy high official posiuons, both on and off the Bench. Monroe county comprises the Senatorial district from which Mr. Jarvis Lord was elected for se terms in succession, although a strongly repuvli district. His strong personal eons greas whrewd- ness and liberal charities kept hin and famtiy in power, They have now gone down in the geucral crash which upset the Canai Ring. Mr. Kmersou, a republican, took the place of Mr. Lord, having benien Mr. Lamberton, the democratic candida, by a largo inajority. Urieans and Madison counties comprise the Cou- Greasional district, 1n which there are four Assemuly districts, and consequently twelve delegates go trom here to Utica. Orleans 1 the home of Judge Courcts, nd if the delogates from that section favor any par- Ucular candidate, of course it will be the distinguisued Chief Justice of the Court of Appeals. It in likely that a delegate to St, Loas will be from each of these two counties, but it 18 given out that Governor Tildup’s iriends desire the selection of both to bo made from Monroe. This proceeding is explained by the as- sertion that the Governor feels il one delegate ts taken from Orivans, such person must naturally teei bound to support Judge Church’s name as against all comer It seems but proper that jiv.sion ough and that Orieuns be allowed to elect a re; th jonal Convention as well as Monroe, po warlare is unworthy of the Governot and should be immediately abandoned, CONCLUSIONS, This fuishes my hasty ble through the various headquarters of the King territory. Altuougn those counties have succeoded in deicaling the Gov- ernor's aapirations (as tar as a pledged delegavon is concerned) aided by the logic of 4 state of events un- to be made derswod to have been brought about by the muasman- | ugement of certain of the Governor's friends, yet it 18 claimed the musses of the people are heartily in favor | of Govegnor Tilden, In the construction and arrange- mout of 4 political machine it 18 not on easy thing 10 There will always be disuifection Governor Tiiden went fur away it upon the canal Democrats and republicans alike {eit the shock. The serpent when trodden upon bites back. Tho Canal Ring will attempt to inf poisonous wound now, Thoy will do it udrvitly over nouluers of many geod aad able men who may have been acciden injured iu tho Governor's campaign. If misimana, ment and small trickery bave im cortain instances characterized Mer. Tiiden’s administration, M& those faults be jorgotten in the struggle which be has many fully andertuken on behalf of tho people agarmst tbieves 1m pubite office and the rings of their creation. TAMMANY AT THR CONVENTION, Hall in its open Tiideo, ~~ a oI If this not receive so much attention. 6 Characteristic of the bluodering leadership which bas organization to its own destruction for tho rec years. [t is siagular, too, to Gud Mr. John eily wide by wide im this fight with the odious Cwonl Ring. Nearly two years ago the gentieinan joined heartily with Mr. Tilden m his onslaughty upon this clique, An open and bitter unciumento of the Tammany Bors was printed in the newspapers, deciar- tog war to the knife against the Canal Ring, Bat now the scene 15 Goveruor Tilden has not been the subservient tool of Mr. Kelly as represpnted by tho sixty-three dummies who will come to Utica to-mor- Tow in the capacity of delegates, He oes undertaken ty think and act for himsel!. Hence this breach with the The result follows of Indians, feathers, come Purpose man who is Hon may be set down aa an rner, Thisis uo halt way measure. g¥ess on my part. Many of the Tam- com, the interior contidontial foha Kelly. 1 have heard them aix months bitterly againss In the counties | already mentioned there appears to be ample founda- | My Jast letter | Roas is Treasurer + + the Governor. They took their cue from thé “oss,” or they dare not s@ tone their criticism. Such a poliey is disgracetul to Tammany. The republicans look o@ and rejaice, The same poloy which divide! the cona- eile of the democratic party at the New York city olec You of last November threatens to disrupt the State cuuvass of 1876 on the same side of the house. Are the sollowers of John Kelly blind, that they cannot see that this course must bo the natural sequence of such aleadership ? Petty spite and sinall personal quarrels consequently sway the counctls of Tammany Hall when broad statesmmanshtp aud consigerate views shoul alone guide the helm. VEKNOK TILDEN'S OPPORTUNITY. If Mr. Tilden wishes effectually to crush out this spirit of exelusiveness and organized opposition iu New ‘ork city let bim use bis intlaence lor the admission | of the anti-Tammauy delegation to the Loor of the Con- vention, This body represents at lvast 40,000 demo- cratic voters of the city of New York. ‘They have been elected directly trom the masses of the people, without the dictation of any central clique, This is en- tirely in accordance with the resolution of 1871. Tar. mauy, uo doubt, claims to seud her delegation under similar auspices. A glanee at the names will dispel the illusion. Any one at all fami! th New York city politics can tell that those mea represent Tam- many Hall and th@ Tammany Society, The dark lantero ep a dodge, which holds bigh caruival “ball aa jour atter the setting of the sun,’ is tally representod, Nearly every suchem isa delegate, The three dele- gates Irom cach of the Assembly districts are members of the Tamin General mnomitiee, Sixty-thre men, one {whom are Tammany office: holders aud the other half carcful watchers for the first chan w turn up tograsp an oflicial penny, wend their wi to Utica jor the Uonvention of Wednesday. Is Not this centralization m its tallest sense? The Gov- ernor aud his trieads have a splendid opportunity to strike back at the autocracic power which undertakes, in company with the Canal King, to crush bis Fresi- denuuial chances at the oulset of the campaign by Jeav- ing tho Tammany delegates to remain shivering on the steps of the Utica Opera House, Or at least let him give Dall the representation‘to aut-Tammany, It he Tepeats the blunder committed last October at Syracuse he will repent the act. It will split the democratio party of the metropolis fairly in the middle, as it was split when the doors of Wieting Opera House, Syracuse, wore closed in the taces of Ira Shatter, Johu Morrissoy, Thomas J, Creamer, Oswald Otterdorfer and other anthk Tammany leaders, PLEDGRD, UNPLEDGED OR RECOMMENDATORY, It tw generally conceded that the Governor will have @ majority of the Convention. ‘The reports from differ parts of the State, outside of Canal Ring districts and | Tammany Hall, stand as proot of this asseruion. King | county, with its twenty-seven delegates, has been ont | of tne latest to declare tor him, It Kings had stomt by New York aguinst the Governor, and | this unboly aluancé had been ‘urther strengthened vy | the anti-Tilden delegations from Jefferson, Onondaga, Orleans, Cayuga, Oswego, Oneida and a tew ower counties, then the combination might have been vic. | torious, But it looks now as if the Governor will have plain sailing. The timid and doubting seem to have wheeled into line. The reports from all parts of the State give the he to statements that Mr. Tilden hag lwen quietly sitting over u volcano in fancied: security, and that the roil callon Wednesday next will find hia | without a majority. If these reports ure true, next | comes the query, What will the Governor exact from | the Convention? His friends say he should demand an out and out delegation, such as Hartranft received in | Pennsylvania, Others say it would be safer to tone the request down to ® recommendatory resol tion, which 1s almost as impressive, simply recom mending Samuel J, Tiiden for next President at St Louts. This would “be following the Conkling pro gramme, Tho wavering think a resolution of indorso- | ment of his administration ought to be suilicient | Anything elec might create a bitter wrangle in thi Convention, and such a proceeding must ental injury upon the Governor's prospect. Anoth proposition fs the directing of the nation ates from this State to cast their vou unit for one man under orders trom 4 majority of their body. Such a course woult | positively bind the jegation to Governor Tib } den if he poasesses the majority that he claims, Ifthort | are any black sheep to go to St. Louis trom New Yor’ | they would be whipped into Hino by the action of the majority. If all other propositions fail to be adopted | the last montioned will probabiy méet the approbation of the Convention. I have it from the best authority that Senator Kernan ia des delogation. dedly opposed to a pledged He has so announced himself to several friends, Governor Seymour, so far as I can ascertain, | has not take: und one way or the other, j , AIGN DOCUMENTS APLOAT . The usual avalanche of campaign documents is upon us, Tammany has openca the ball with a pamphlet explaining whatshe 1s and what she wants to bo, ‘The | countrymen do not require their minds jolted | those points. The democrats from all sections ofthe | Stute cordially abhor the uame of Tammany, They | know very well without reading this pamphlet what | Tammany is. What she wants to be 18 tully: exempll- fled tn the history of her past aud the management of | her present. Tho Canal Ring are actively engaged in the circala. tion of a peculiar book, entitled, ‘Samuel J. Tilden Unmasked,” by Benjamin E. Buckman, lato sergeant in the Metropolitan Police. The book makes serious charges xguinst the Governor in his capacities of ral. road lawyer and speculator. Ax to the truth of those charges [ have no meaus of determining. They are grave enough, however, to sink out of sight forever the Reosidential chaucox of fifty candidates. But,tbey luck the appearance of veracity, and their bitter per- sonal virulence tukes away any’ effect which might follow caretul perusal. GOVERNOR SEYMOUR COMING TO THE FRONT. Just before I closed these despatches I had « conver. sation with one of Governor Seymour's personal friends, Who resides in Utica, He pats rorth a theory whieh ‘may materialiy turn the tide of affairs at Wednesday's Convention, He declares that Governor Seymour wit! bo a Presidential candidate if it is thought necessiry for the iuterests of the party. Twelve delegates have been clected from Oncita cuunty who are Seymour men to the backbone. This gentle man claims that all the anti-Tilden elements in the Con- vention ean be casily concentrated on Mr, Seymour. He also insists the Goveroor counts without his bo-$ when he claims « majority of the Convention. The int ig made that the only foundation upon which Mr, iden can build such a deduction ix the fact that cortaim districts have passed resolutions indorsivg his admin- istration, This, tts now alleged, ia a mere supposi- tion, ag one-halé the districts will go no further, and If Seymoor’s namo was scrioasly mentioned for indorse- ment a stampede would take place and. two-thirds of the Convention would rally around him to a man. It must be recollected that Oneida county 18 the home of our democratic Cincinnatus. The enthusiasm of his friends here may, therefore, sometimes carry away their better judgment. it would not be strange, how- ever, if both Presidential candidates went into the race flaunting gayly Onerda colors—the republicans with Roscoe Conkling, the democrats with Horatio Sere mour. ARRIVAL OF DRLEGATRS, The advance guard of the Convention arrived here this evening. A few delegates bave already put in an Among these are ex-Senator Lani Butlalo; x-Assembiyman Page, Chairman ot thi Committee in th islature of 1875, and about half a jozen others. any Hailis represented only by Eaward L. Donnelly, Treasurer of the General Com- mittee, and Colonel Joseph Bagley, lately elected Sachem uf the society. The headquarters of the Stato Committee will be located at the Butterfield House, where the Tammanny delegation holds a caucus at eight o'clock to-morrow evening. Mr. John bona * has ‘cugaged rooms for himself and friends at Bagg’s Hotel He also telegraphed for accommodations at the Buttertield House, so that his delegation can havo rooins tilere in which to confer. THY TALK OF TAMMANY, The Tammany men here do not take the slightest their opposition to the Governor, y and bitterly against him. ‘me the real cause of the quarrel betweea y Governor Tilden ?’’ | inquired of a many delegate to-night. “Well, | infor that the first trouble arose previous to tion Jast fall, although Mr. Kelly has. bee 1 of running the local machine exclus his own interests. I enn tell you that it t# not so, Governor Tilden usurped much of the authority last ° October 1m New York city and State. He dictated the democratic nomination lor Senators, a justice of the Marine Court—the whole ticket, indeed ry undertook to control in various other quarters, Mr, Kelly could not brook this interference, and hence the split, Other personal differences have since arisen, which LE can’t here explain.” ‘This is the Tammany theory, and must consequently be Jouked upon with some allowance, ¥x-Governor Scymonr's name as a favorable candle | dave at St, Louis is frequently mentioned, The opposte _ tion would gladly combine upon him, and should Mr, Tilden fail to secure the Conventiva, Horatio Seymour | would certainly be the Srat choice. SPECULATIONS ABOUT THR CONVENTION, There is considerable speculation to-night amom | the democratic members of the two houses relative to the probable decision by the Utica Convention on Wednesday, relative to the claims of the Tammany and anti-Tammany organizations, Many of the mem- legates = and bers ot the Lower House aro del they speak pretty freely about what ought to be done to settle the long standing dispute They are not all, however, of ono ‘ning, Soveral contend that it will not do to put tho ant-Tammany party completely out in the cold, in view of the fact | that 1 18 represented in the Legistature by two Sen- ators and three Asembiymen, which ts proof positive of the vitmity of the ant~Tammany orgauization. The mmember« who take this view of the case and who are delegates seem in favor of giving the anti-Tammanyiter o ‘eee ae according to last election hand, other mem- jegates think that the best way to heal | the breach between the two factions ts to give them | equal representation in the Convention, under. stood here that Tammuny will mako a big fignt against her rivala being adimiticd at all, while it ts asserted by some of the cSuniry members that the anti- Tammanyites = will be with a pro rita represeutation based on the vote in New ‘York last November, but that they wil be content with having 4 bsti-vote in the Convention. Tirat is, the two delegations to be mimitted, exch delegate to have bate halt vote. This question of the coutest bowweea the Taminsny and anti Tammany organizations is the ring one to-night among the whe to Utica to-morrow, tne dis of the of the Convention’ work on Wednesday the question as to whether the Tilden men will try to secure 8 pledged delegation finds but litte place, so int is the general felt im the Tammany vs. anti-fammony le thas te to be, may state that most have conversed with on the subject believe that the delegation to St. Louis will be a delegation favorable to Tildon, authorized to ‘‘present’ for the consideration of the Convent thero,