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NEW YORK HERALD, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 1873.—TRIPLE THE DEMOCRATIC MUDDLE. The Wrangling Among the Faithful and the Gloomy Prospects Ahead. Tammanv and Apollo’s Old Quarrel. ITS BITTERNESS THREATENING TO REVIVE The Liberals, in Mourning, Delivering Them- selves of Plaints and Threats, WILL THE BEST MAN WIN? ‘What the Country Democrats Are Going To Do About it, The Tammany Big Injun vs. the Gentle Apollo. The action of the Democratic State Central Com- Mittec the other day, by which the liberals and all outside democratic organizations were alike given the cold shoulder, has created no small amount of talk among the polititians, and something akin to consternation already prevails among the woula- ,be city and county candidates whose hopes of success depend in large part United opposition front to the administration Party next full, In fact the committee has come in tor a great deal of vituperation and quite as much praise; but both the vituperation and the praise have sprung {rom motives that cannot be considered as entirely prompted by patriotism. One of the real secrets of the committee's action has so far been known but to the few, and tor the benefit of the many it may be of general interest just now to give the “outsiders” A PEEY BEHIND THE SCENES. At the bottom of the wire pulling, which preceded the meeting of the committee weeks belore it met at all or had even formally conferred together, the strivings of the so-called leaders outside of New York city, who have an eye on the gubernatorial chair of ‘75, were in their full strength. Their Ariends looked upon Tommany Hall as the tower that was again to rule the roast in the democratic relorm days that are to come, and so Tammany’s influence had to be courted and her leaders fat- tered. These were the friends of Allcn C. Beach on the one side and Jarvis Lord on “the other, and it is a noticeable tact that of those members who did not putin an ap- “pearance at the meeting three out of five were partisans of neither one party nor of the owner The gentlemen from Monroe and he from Jefferson hhad, thereiore, to ply their arts less skillfully than “otherwise they might have had to ply them, and yet they played their points so well that even some ‘of their friends * were found “sincerely” ‘against them on the vote to have ‘three instead of one delegate trom “each Assémbly district at the Convention. It was. the part of Mr. Beach and Mr. Lord to give way to Tammany’s demands in order tosecure Tammany’s ‘mfiuence in the future that lies before them, and thus it was that the outside tactions were given no show and the liberals were shut out entirely. ‘But im all tustice to the Tammany men: of the committee who nail irom this city, it ‘must be said that thoy were not ‘actuated exclusively by the same motives ‘which prompted the non-city members to take the stand they did. John Kelly meant well, and, ‘asa Tammany reformer, does not believe in half “way measures, The proposition to send three delegates irom each district was to him A DEVICE OF THE ENEMY to entrap Tammany Hall; for, mind you, argue his friends, if the proposition had been accepted the result would have been a coalition between liberals and Apollo Hall soreheads and a terrible over-coming, by numerical force of Tammany herself in the Convention. Kelly an his friends, while willing that the liberals should unite and do all they can with the democrats towards defeating the administration republican candidates, do not believe that they had any right to expect representation in the Convention, and that they can just as well give evidence by their work at the polls next fall in support- ing democratic reform candidates that their protestations are not all sounding brass as by sending delegates to a demo- cratic convention. All the prominent Tammany men, however, are not of the same opinion, and not a few of them whisper sub-rosa that Kelly is ambitious only to make a retorm name for himself, bo matter what happens to the party itself, and yet others call him an impracticable, whose very stubbornness will keep Tammany in the back. Bround so long as he has anything to @o with it. Of course, Mr. Kelly’s qtiends have auite a ditlerent opinion of bim, and assert that, in working to retrieve the name of Tammany, self is lost sight of with him, and the good of the party alone is the aim and object of his every exertion. It will thus be een that even in Tammany, among her counsel- ors, is a house divided against itself, and that if care is not taken between now and the day of elec- tion inertness among some of the local leaders ‘Will go as far to defeat the party as THE WRANGLING OF THE CITY FACTIONS themselves. As to the continued split that is threatened (first, as the result oi the State and Committee’s action, made more positive by the Apolio Hall caucus of last Thursday night) there is & wide difference among the local politicians. The country democrats concede that 1f the democrats fare not united here the State will go republican by 25,000, But thisis not all. They threaten that ifthe do not unite, they tuemselves wili not work for party at all during 4he campaign—con- sidering the w Jabor under the circumstances as thrown in @ useless cause. They demand that indivi the democratic masses to luais shall stand aside and allow f° solid for one ticket, They say they care nothing for any Kelly or O’Brien or the jeaders of pais or that faction, for Ro man or set of men now ‘must place his indi- Vidual ambitions between the party and success, NO HOPE POR APOLLO At UTICA. However, from now until the Convention meets there is abundant time for the factions to get cool, ler over the situation and possibly come to e understandin: roe it is Ae late, Lad ae many men and Apollo Hall men alike agree tha: the trouble is not ended before tie Convention meets at Utica on the 1st of next month there will ‘be no hope jor success for the party in November. Because of the Apollo wok in the last elec- Sones outside of the democratic lines and ting with the enemies oi the party to elect re- 3 it is generally conceded that she will nO show whatever of getting recog- by the Convention. In this con- yeten it may be well to state that some the democrats, not only in.» this city, bat throughout the State, have considerable nope Of success in November on a grand row they be- Neve will break out at the Republican Convention ‘this mouth, PROBABLE ROW IN THE REPUBLICAN CAMP. _ It is beyond dispute that there already exists be- tween the Thurlow Weed republicans and the Cus- tom House or administration party the most cor- dial Lvs mean war to the knife in their control Tis the belief that. tho. fon wie vente: “split,” and it is this the sanguine democrats above upon a, ts, who hepe for all this fizht to take place, may rest assured, if all the re- ports irom the country districts can be relied upon, that the ‘Convention will be @ “smooth? one, after all, and that tne enginery the Custom House, the Post Oftice and the revenue departments through- out the State is so strong and run 80 well that the administration people e the election of the delegates almost entirely at their disposal. However, the probabilities concerning our own faction fights here in this city and what the leaders think about the prospects ahead are doubtless of more interest to democrats snd re- publicans just now than the La ey growls among the State politicians, Under the circum- stauces the following interviews relating to the action of the Democratic State Committee and its probable effect pee, Apollo Hall and Tam; will be found goo B JOHN COCHRANE’S firmeRat) VIEWS. A HERALD commissioner yesterday paid a visit to General Cochrane, and, alter a little chit-chat wea bout matters and things generally, re- marked : “You see, General, that the Herap this morn- ing ware @n gnswer from you to the signiticant question, Where are the ii to go 1” ‘Yes, it seems that the HERALD asks that ques- tion, but before directly answering it I would like to premise that the question, applying toa body of men who stood 000 enrolied men last year, the answer to it becomes one of considerable importance, and especially when it 18 to be presumed that they have not grea Ut at all, numerically diminished in the interval. my opinion it {8 not necessary to theorize as to What direction the iiberals intend to take. They have already decided, Maintaining the principles which they professed at Cincinnati, they are aware that circumstances have deprived them of the method of asserting them which they pursued last year. Their obligation to those principles they recognize as unchanged, and—whether as an independent party or in alliance with otter par- ties or simply as citizens without the lines of any party—they intend to sus' them at the polis. THE LIBERALS DON’T LIKE DEMOCRATS POLITICALLY. “They uniformly object to a fusion in the demo- cratic party as a political organization, though in close aiinity and desirous of acting with the rank and file of the democratic party co-operatively. Therefore such co-operation was proposed by the Liberal State Committee to the Demveratic State Committee. The rejection of that proposal will probably compel the liberal republican organiza- tion to calla State Convention jor the nomination of @ State ticket ; whether that ticket will be composed of independent candidates or of candidates se- lected from the tickets of either or both of the great political parties that shall previously have [Sey their uckets in the fleld, will depend upon he fact whether such names will have been placed upon the democratic or republican State ticket as can constatently with the protessions of the liberals be supported by them, WHAT THEY WILL DO AS PATRIOTS. “This can be ascertained only after the Democratic and Republican Conventions shall have met, and when the Liberal Convention will probably be assembled. In any event the determima- tion of the Miberal republicans is to throw their votes, whether many or few, in tavor of men for office uuexceptionable in reputation and without any.reference to their previous po- litical affinities, They do not anticipate any vote such as their enrolment of last year might indl- cate; but they are confident of producing such an impression upon the ballot-box as will indicate to both the parties their disposing power in behalf of honesty and purity in the government.” “You have spoken, General, of the probabilities appertaining to the State ticket. What have you to say about the Legislature 7” LOOAL LIBERAL AFFILIATIONS GOOD FOR SOMETHING. “Lthink that this question requires a different answer. It is a noted fact that iu very many local- ities of the State, i quite a number of counties and towns, and in some cities and villages, all those professing reform principles without reference to political antecedents, whether democrats or repub- licans, have practic: united in one organization, and snould both the democratic and liberal repub- lican State tickets be de,eated, the probabilities are that this local fusion ip so many of the Assembly and senatorial districts will enable this combina- tion to throw the administrative republicans into a minority in the Legislature.” “From the tenor your last answer am I, then, to infer that the democrats and liberal republicans ere already practically tused in the State?” THE DEMOCRATIC PABTY’3 USEFULNESS AT AN END. “You are; for, by my Observation, the rank and Mle of the democratic ae, are very generally convinced that the practical usefulness of the purty is atan end, and, like plain men with lain ovject before them, they seé that, to attain their object, le is oe seo | and pony in government, they ahould unite ai polls with as many as pos- sible of the same belief,’ “This answer of yours, then, indicates that the Democratic State Committee, in rejecting the prop. osition to fuse of the Liberal Republican Commit. did not truly represent their constisuency “din my judgment they did not represent their con - stituency in the decision they came to. In tne tirst place, a Very large and respectable minority of the committee opposed their decision. Secondly, the Tesult even now discloses great and growing’ dis- satisfaction among the rank and file in the country. THE NAME OF TAMMANY ABHORRENT TO THE PEOPLE. “again it was obvious from the een Te- ports that the interests of Tammany Hall largely preponderated among those which produced their deciston. This is peculiarly unfortunate, tor the vote in committee will not {all to be charged to the Tamm: clique; and whether Tammany now is in tact changed from the Tammany of Tweed rule will not so closely be scrutinized as to prevent the acceptance without scrutiny of the general charge that the democratic party of the State has at last succumbed to the vicious city influences of Tammany Hall In other words, occasion has been given to the democratic party to enter upon a line of defensive explanations, and this, in judgment, laa misstep which the democrats will be unable to retrieve during the progress of the whole canvass.” APOLLO HALL AND TAMMANY CAN'T UNITE. meee connection what say you about Apollo al “1 was about to instance Apollo Hall as an illus- tration, Their animosity to Tammany evidently produced an excited debate at the session of the committee, and which has since mant- fested itself, in last night's Apollo Hail caucus, ‘They evidently ascribed the decision of the committee, to constitute the Convention of but one delegate from each Assembly district, to the tear of the Tammany interest, iest by enlarging it to three an opportunity should be given to the Apollo Hali interest of thrusting their men among the delegates. Such an impression will render im- possible any co-operation between Tammany and Apollo halls upon any one ticket in the fall’s can- vass. ‘as you evidently think that the liberal republi- cans ahd Tammany Hall will not unite upon the local city tickets, do you suppose that there ae probability of their uniting with Apollo APOLLO AND THE LIBERALS TO EMBRACE—1F? “Circumstances to occur must determine. If Apollo Hall will consent to tne nomination of men Tor oMice of character, good repute, capacity and fitness—Apollo Hail being understood to entertain political opinions identical with those of the lib- erals—[ gee no reason why the liberal republicans should not give such nominees their full and hearty support. But in no event of contrivance or arrangement ior barter or traffic—in no case of an effort to reconcile opposite shoinea by equilibrat- ing interests can the liberals be induced to support a ticket created i such influences. It seems to me now, however, that events w.ll so shape them- selves that the liberal republicans and the Apollo Hall democrats will be obliged to trame and sup- port one ticket, and that of an unexceptionable character.”’ M. T., BRENNAN’S VIEWS, Mr. Brennan, the genial Sheriff, was also called upon by the HERALD Commissioner, but as he was in a hurry to Uy away tothe pure air of his out of town home, the Commissioner was not able to hold any lengthy conversation with him. He remarked, however, during the brief chat that took place, that he believed it was a little too early just yet to pp. to conclusions as to what effect on the party in this city the action of the State Central Com- mittee would have. Between. now and the day fixed for hoiding the Convention he believed there was ample time for some kind of “a coming to- gether” of democrats, who could straighten out tuings generally. He also remarked that he had been in favor of having two delegates from each Assembly district to the Convention. “You see,’ said he, “if this had been adopted People outside of the party could have shown their strength, but three from each district is too much GA ae thing. Had the pro- ortion been adopted it would have opened the foors to ali sorts of outsiders, and would have led to interminable wrangling hereaiter. As to the outside tactions, they saw fit to go out of the demo- cratic ranks to fight, and as Tammany has aione all along fought the battles of the ‘ty it te out fair that other organizations who did not in the fight should not have an representation with her in the Convention, They can afford to work for a year and show by their acts that they are faithfal to the party.” APOLLO HALL VIEW. A Beraxp reporter learned that the sab-commit- tee ted by the bag? Hal General Commit- tee-on mag night © walt on the Police coe missioners to pectors and poll clerks ne coming election were to meet a the oinee of Prancis M. at No. 3 Warren street, at two o'clock yesterday afternoon and called there just as the “caucus” broke up. man-elect Creamer called at the office oe day, and was in close consultation with several of the Apollo Hall leaders pur sued by oper ie “he upprosobing t ae ir the iy hen the Y committee had proceeded to palice Headquarters the reper Fequested @ conversa- ‘Won With Mr. Francis M. ener who is generally con- sidered among the local poll one of the most tong-h ng-headed men M M3 apollo F Sy oye cK ‘acy, Mr. Bixby appear to ‘Communioate ef ion which the fe lo Hall 1H of the action of Mr, Kelly—or, meeting be mocratic State Central Commit- tee at The it. ‘Noho Hotel on Wednesday last. ‘The reporter — repo % "I understand, Mr, Bixby, that there has been @ meeting of the Apollo Hall leaders at your office to-day, and I have come to learn what you all think about the exclusion of the liberal republi- cans irom the Democratic State Convention at I can only give you the opinion from my own standpoint, as an Apolio Hall man, and we are all unanunous about it. We think, as demo- crats, that we have a right to some representation at the Democratic State Convention. We have always been and we are willing now to unite with the leaders of Tammany Hall—not us an organiza- tion, for that cannot be; but we have expressed our willingness to jorm with them a joint slate—the only way in which the democracy in this city can be victorious at the coming elec- tion. Tammany has been taught several lessons, but her leaders will not take the Mr. Kelly's flat has gone forth, He will not have any out- siders with him, and that ends the matter as (ar a8 we are concerned. I tell you that we will send delegates to this Democratic State Convention to whom they will not dare refuse admission, and their characters will alone be a guarantee of our sincerity.”” “T suppose that ex-Senator Creamer’s motion at the meeting of the State Central Committee, that | three delegat Should be elected to attend the Conventi meant to give Apollo Hall and the republicat chance 1’ “Yes, that was the meaning of it; but, outside that, | am glad that you have alluded to the meet- ing of the State Central Committee at the St. Nicholas Hotel. Senator Creamer was here a few minutes ago, and though reports of the meeting appeared im the newspapers, according to what ne ays they were not half reports, Mr. Kelly made @ motion to strike Mr. Creamer when the latter said that Mr. Kelly was not all that his own fancy made him.” “How do you mean, Mr. Bixby?” ‘MY ANSWER WOULD BE A BLOW.” “Well, when Mr. Kelly charged that Mr. Creamer was @ political deserter, Mr. Creamer told Mr. Kelly that bis own skirts ag an office holder were not clean. It was well known at present, though it ‘was a long time since Mr. Kelly had been Sheriff, and the.charges of official corruption against him had never been brought before the Courts, asin the case of others, Mr, Kelly then made a motion to strike Mr. Creamer. TALK ABOUT ‘‘DEAD RABBITS,’” “And who,” continued Mr. Bix! “4s this auto- cratic democrat who, says who and who shall not have a voice in the. democracy of this State’ Why, take away all the veneer of Madison avenue from John Kelly, and he isa Fourth ward ‘Dead Rabbit,’ dyed in the wool; aye, and per- fected the organization, too,’’ “Tt is claimed, Mr. Bixby, that the proposition to elect three delegates to the Demucratic State Con- vention 1s against tradition,” put in the reporter. “Yes, but look to Massachusetts, where they have 1,200 delegates to each convention; in a small State, too. Here, in the immense State of New York, we have 128 delegates jor the whole State. Do you mean to tell me that these 128 men rene the democracy of this great State? Why, there is only one delegate trom each Assem- bly district, and there are Assembly districts in the State which cover several counties, some of which must be left altogether without a repre- sentative.” “But how about the liberal republicans, Mr. Bixby ? Would your party be in favor of allowing them in the State Convention 7” Yes, we would be in tavor of giving a representa- tion to all who come to give the democratic party help. They may be 500 strong or 1,000, but if there were enough of liberal republicans in a district to elect a delegate we believe in giving them a repre- sentation. Now, finally, if Mr. Kelly means fight, as he does,’ we 'mean fight — too, d to the bitter end. We have engaged ing Hall as our headquarters up to the 6th of next November, Apoilo all being changed into a theatre lor the present, and as Mr. feel, put us out we will fight it out on ourown ne. Before the reporter left Mr. Bixby remarked that hitherto at the State Conventions the canal interest—controlied, as he said, by Mr. Richmand, the son of Dean Kichmond, witn not so much “mud to his boots as his father nad brains”—and the railroad interest—controlled by Mr. Sam Tilden and others—nad all the say. In fact, Mr. Bixby said that Mr. Richmond had confessed to ex-Sena- tor Creamer, in @ semi-confidential way, that it was easier to manage 128 delegates than manage several hundred, AN OLD TAMMANY WARRIOR'S VIEW. The reporter next called upon Colonel Thomas Dunlap, head of the Bureau oi Markets in the De- Partment o1 Finance, and an old Tammany war- Tior of many blankets. Colonel Tom was an ardent srpercten of Dick Connolly and the good old days; but since the political tidal wave he is generally found at public meetings within ten feet, by actual measurement, of Mr. John Kelly. r, kn Irv- Dunlap i# @ shrewd liticlan, and OWS a8 much about the underworkings of the Tammany organization as any other man around the Fourteenth street “diggings.” When the reporter introduced himself, the ‘Colonel’? with characteristic caution, remarked that he did not want to be interviewed. The reporter assu’ him that he did not want todo pasting of sort, Alter a good deal of mutual e phic re- fiexton, Colonel Dunlap volunteered the imforma- tion, in reply to the reporter’s question, that he did lieve that the liberal republicans amounted to anything. “T do not cluim to be a leader of Tammany Hall,”” continued Colonel Tom, “but the way we feel about it 18 this, that Tammany is solid and compact enough of itsel! to carry the election next Jail, and Wwe do not want outsiders.” “Then, a8 I understand it,” remarked the re- rier, “you are of the impression that the ma- fonty of the leaders endorse the actions of Mr. ally ‘at the meeting of the State Central Commit- tee the other night.” 4 GOD MADE MAN, “Yes, sir; we all endorse him. You never saw such @ reception as he got at the General Commit. e te ht. John Kelly, sir, is a God-made man. Hi t in physique and a giant in in- tellect. He hi ways had, sir (reverentially), the Almighty with him, and that has been the secret oO 1 talked about this matter with him before he went to Europe and after, and we agreed that Tammany was well enough organ- ized to let her stand by hersetf. Finally,” said Coionel Dunlap,’ about these ilberal republicans, I Ray let them come over to Most of their leaders are coming to us. Why there is Colonel Frederick Conkling, of the Seventh district. Why Lunderstand that there is a letter of his already in type, about to be published immediately, in which he will declare himsel! a democrat.’’ Alter Colonel Dunlap, the reporter thought he might as well have the opinion o: an ex-leader of Apollo Hall, a convert to Tammany, and accord- ingly called on William H. Wickham, the ex-Cnair- manof the Apolio Hall organization, at No. 2 Maiden lane. Mr. Wickham said he was glad the reporter called, as the times were dull, and spoke ireely his sentiments on the matter. le that he had not heard anything about the course that Mr. Kelly was about to adopt before he went to the Meeting of the State Central Committee, nor had he endorsed it, but when asked if he approved of the admission of the liberal republican delegates to the democratic State Convention he responded promptly !— No! These men are, either democrats or repub, licans. If they be sincere they are democrats and they ought to fall into our ranks if they are insincere, why, they are repub- licans, and let them fall back into their own fold. Why, there is Colonel Fred. Conkling—” ‘ eee about the Apolio Hall men, Mr. Wick- am “My opinion is this, sir, and I do not speak of city poli now, We may have our personal candidates and our personal quarrels. But I say that the De- mocratic State Convention should reject no man who represents a democratic organization which has not in the past bart@red away the democratic party im national contests to serve personal ends. do not care about one delegate or two delegates or three, but I think that every legitimate demo- cratic organization should have a representation at the Convention. One delegate from each As- sembly district in the State always answered, and why not now?” THE CHAIRMAN OF THR LIBERAL REPUBLICANS. The reporter then thqught he would see Colonel Ethan Allen, the chairman of the National Libe: Republican Committee, and find out “what h knew” about the eligibility of General John Ooch- Trane and his followers in the State to be delegates to the Democratic State Conventi Colonel Alien is @ flery gentiemaa, and told, in forcible and ener- @etic language, th et! of the late campaign and why he left the radical republican party. Meanwhile the reporter closely examined a certain picture on Wall, in which Mr. Allen himself plaved the p: of Mephistopheles, and when he was through bronght him round to the point. “Well,” said Mr. Allen, “you know lam a na- tional liberal republican, snd I never will go to the democracy (with a thump on the desk). Ferontess 1am glad that the democrats have refused to re- ceive General John Cochr .ne and his friends in this State; they should never have gone to the dem- ocracy. le democracy did come to us, and the only salvation for the liberal republican party in this country is to keep away from the democracy in every State and from the administration party. If we can live separate for three years, and General Grant is nominated for a,third term, then our chance comes and Lyman Trumbull must be our Mr. Allen was evidently absorbed in national = = on ited with lou Pad aod by eral ane ani rot ral publicans in this State, re SUPPOSED SUICIDE About one o'clock yesterday afternoon the body of a man, who had evidently been about ten days in the water, was found floating in the pasin of the Passaio Falls, at Paterson. With some diMculty the disgusting corpse was towod to the shore, and after a little delay was taken in by Amirsax. The body was identified a being that of George W. Perry, a married man, nd son of the old woman who for many years has had oharge of the ladies’ department of the Erie depot in Paterson. Perry formerly was in the employ of the Paterson Gas Sompany, but has lately been at work in Jersey City. He leit home a week ago last Tuesday and had not since been seen. The fact that he been the victim of a good deal of trouble, both financial domestic, leads to the surmise that he com- mitted suicide by jumping over the falis. The re- mains were taken in ‘oner, W! will hold an inquest. Deve: Vea @ whe and the ib ram AbOUE MARCA raga ath, a i SHEET. 3 THE KELSEY FUNERAL, A Large and Impressive Display. The Country People on Hand in Numbers. Creat Crief of Miss Charlotte Kelsey. Feeling Sermon by the Pastor. GOSSIP OF THE VILLAGE. A Settled Belief That Kelsey Was Sav- agely Murdered. Hentinaton, L, 1, Sept. 6, 1873. The largest and most impressive funeral this part of the country has ever witnessed passed through the main street of Huntington from the Second Presbyterian church to-day to the Presbyterian Cemetery, on the edge of the town. The frag- mentary remains of Onarles G, Kelsey were thus honored, chiefly by reason of a proiound sympa- thy for his family, as well as of pity for the strangely shocking fate which the majority of people now believe beiell him. There was still another cause which helped to make this funeral memorable in the annals of Huntington—a desire to express the popular feeling in regard to this Kelsey affair—and the serious and earnest crowds who filled the church edifice and overflowed into the street told plainly of the abiding belief in the public mind that Kelsey was cruelly murdered. People came from long distances to attend—from Port Jefferson, Babylon, Islip, Oyster Bay, Locust Val- ley, Syosset, and numerous other places. They came by railroad and ali sorts of conveyances, and early in the afternoon the large yard of the Suf- folk House was packed with horses and vehicles. Under a line of old chestnut trees, opposite the second Presbyterian church, scores of wagons were drawn up, giving to the town amore than usually antmated appearance. A wagon pulled up at the Suffolk House about two o’clock in the af- ternoon, and four ladies, all in deep black, alighted therefrom. They were young and attractive, and on inquiry I found they were distant relatives of the Kelsey family. This exhibition of the apparel that denotes sorrow was very noticeable in the church, The number of LADIES IN BLACK was strikingly numerous. They appeared to come from the country around Huntington, and evi- dently belonged to the wealthy /arming class. On the piazza of the Suffolk House, which is the head- quarters of the anti-tar men, @ large number col- lected from time to time throughout the day. They talked of nothing but the Kelsey mystery. Tney said outright the man was mur- derea, that he suffered a nameless out- rage before be was tarred and feathered, and that to hide theircrime the murderers cast his body in the sea, where it was buried beneath the waters by an attachment of heavy weights. They ¢ ‘TALKED ANGRILY of District Attorney Downing, who yesterday took the place of the people’s prosecutor at the inquest in Oyster Bay, He was dehouncea ieeking to thwart the eds of justice, and while acting for the people was secretly plotting for the defence. ‘The Second Presbyterian church is an ample and respectable edifice, built of wood, painted white, and having an airy and cheeriul interior. It stands prominently on the principal street of Huntington. The trustees having decided to yield the chureh for the faneral services it was thrown open early, without rule or reservation, and its large area soon began to fill. until the aisles were laid under con- tribution, and finally the vestibule had to accom- Modate the many who came late. It was @ pro- foundly silent and attentive congregation. Every mind therein was absorbed by one subject alone, and when Rev. Mr. Knox robe to his feet from be- hind the plush-covered desk the stillness of the grave prevailed. 4 SORROWFUL SIGHT. Just before the services @ man was observed coming down the centre aisle, from near the communion table, with @ lady, shrouded in mourning, leaning upon his arm, He was @ ratner tall, bronzed man, dressed in black down to his gloves, The lady he supported was weeping amid hysterical sobs, She looked faint and weary, and the tal, anxious man was bearing her with rapid yet gentle steps out to- wards the open air. She reached the church door. and there the Noodgates of grief seemed to give way, and she burst into a strangely pas- sionate cry of agony. Tearg streamed down her cheek and her whole frame shook convulsively. This was Miss Charlotte Kelsey, sister of the man alleged to have been murdered, She was leaning on her brother’s arm, and he with @ tender sympathy bore her fora while away toa place of rest. AsIlooked at this spectacle and remembered the cruel notice some Huntington blackguards aflxed to a tree, calling this earnest ceremony at the church ‘‘tne funeral of Legs,’ I wondered if the godless cities had not aster all more humanity jong them than the country, where all the virtues are supposed to reside, Just before the Kelsey iamily entered the church, the organist, Miss Frances Smith, began a dirge. The intermittent rustling of fans and the murmur of whispers were now hushed, and all again be- came as silent as the grave. The SLOW MEASURES OF THE DIRGE floated over the heads of the congregation, who bowed down and remained bowed until the dirge was over. A few minutes after the music ceased the family, all in deep mourning, came into the church in order—Henry Kelsey and wife, Mr. Wil- letts and wife, William, his sister Charlotte, and his wife. Mrs, Willetts had her little son with her, From his seat on the kneeling bench he looked up inquiringly in his mother’s face, unable to divine the reason of her weeping, and each time she looked upon his upturned, inquiring lace, her tears broke out anew. THE SERVICES. From the pulpit came a story of sorrow and regret at the violent rupture between the /amilies, the churches and the people of the sequestered little town, whose inhabitants were always wont to live and regard each otuer in the light of family folk. It was truly sad to see the weeping of many at this sad state of affairs, Within the church the ejudices which political tasues and engendered were forgotten, aud re free to think of the happiness that igned where now all 1s social disorder. How sad the reflection that this division might be perpetuated by succeeding generations | This seemed to enter deep into the souls of the worshippers, Whose grave, collected faces told of the violent struggie of outraged sentiment and Christian meekness Folng on within. The words of the minister were as the balm ef Gilead, and before the services were over @ better state of feeling pre- vailed, TO “THE OLD BURYING HILL.” From the church the Peo hundreds wended their way to the “ Burying Hit,” where ite entombed the forefathers of tions back. Mewar ee solemnly the procession, in couples and iamilies, marched up tue old hill, passing in oe over the graves of those who ‘Hundugton 160 years The Kelsey jot ts in the centre of the od and on the summit of the hill. For nearly fifty feet around the tomb stones are inscribed with the name of Kelsey, some of brown stone covered lacy for five er, thickly with en, The immediate friends of the family collected around the ve. The usual Presbyterian burial ‘was perlormed the ac. rpse lowered ‘dawn tales last oo rest loud sobbing ca A poor dis- companied by the tracted sister, we REV. MR. TERRY'S SERMON. The services at the church were opened by a by Dr. Terry. In the pr: they had nuyeained foo Ly a of the now di m8 of th ovules, ine giating “Thon bas Siter ‘which Mr. mar! im, be- been our dwelli made it Te- the follo Of those concerned are of great and general public interest. Every expression will be talked of and weighed, looked into and scrutinized by every one in this littie place; so it behooves me to be collected and earnest abont what { have to say. That Oharies G. Kelsey is dead [| have no doubt, and that the body tound and identified is his {am convinced. I never knew tne deceased ergonally, and alll know of him {s what I have learned from those who knew him pest—his family and friends, By others I have heard him spoken Of a8 @ just and upright man in ali bis busin re- lations, I have heard him spoken of as a Chris- tian, too, He belonged to the Sunaay school, and was a worker therein; tweive years ago he’ con- fessed faith In Jesus Christ and identified himseit with the First Presbyterian church of this place. He was a quiet and undemonstrative worker; but all he did was well donc, and some who are loud in their praise say he was avery Samson. As to his private lite, to acknowledge his trailtics ts to acknowleage lls human nature. He, like the rest of us, Ww: perhaps, weak in the flesh, though of willing apie! it, To asperse his character is not my province, and to laud him is not my intention. 1 merely speak ol him AS HR WAS KNOWN toyou. Itia my surrowiul duty to speak to those who have lost a brother words of consolation and of hope. They have lost one whom they loved and ‘one from whom they expected much and were proud oi. The soal tryii and dreadful suspense of nine months has at last culminated in a thunder clap of realization that their worst suspicions were true. ‘Their darling brother has gone to his long resting piace. When this is the case 1,a mere man, can ve No consolation to them in their bereavement. can but guide them to Him who alone ean heal the soul-incising Wound they have sustained. To God I can lead them, with the ussurance of the realization of the hope of comiort. Under ordinary circumstances the AFFLICTION OF THE BEREAVED FAMILY would be great, but there are circumstances sur- rounding the death of their brother which are har- rowing in their nature. Over these let the curtain of religion not be drawn—let us wait for justice to tear the veil of mystery and secrecy irom them with her sword. REV, MR, KNOX’S SERMON, A few moments alter Mr. Terry had taken his seat Mr. Knox came forward to the lecture. He was very much affected and his voice was husky with suppressed (celing. He said:—Dearly beloved brethren and friends, words are inadequate to ex- press the condition of the public mind ef this place on the subject of the fate of the man whose burial service we are now attending. ‘The question, when it does arise, carries another with it; they are synonymous and cannot be separated. The question Oo! the liie or death af Charles G. Kelsey involves one of the guilt or innocence of other people, and neither can be asked without exiting violent heart - throbbin; and stirring =u feelings which ard anything but leasanf, The name of our little village has not dhly been soiled, but blackeued. Where others nave decided Tegarding the great question I have remained un- decided, and the golden balance of Justice is poised on the diamond point of truth, Hope and fear are in me, like two deer met upon a narrow mountain path with antlers locked, and it requires but @ breath to dash either down the chasm. Lam speaking here to teil of the respect I entertain tor the convictions of those assembled. I am in favor of law and order, which should not be outraged. 1am decidedly opposed to lyach law. There are cases where justice is slow or rather inactive ; she is bound nand and toot, and cannot move where it 1s resorted to; but this is not the case in Hunting- ton. All can have their wrongs adjusted and their duferences settled in aquiet and peaceable way, I care not by whom the outrage was performed. denounce him as a@ disrespector of justice. We have learned a lesson which, if property taken, is prolific of advice und warning, When we consider justice we should also consider the punishment, and if this be done none will be dealt with too severely. I cannot believe there is a crime 80 black or an iniquity so deep but that a flash of boldly spoken truth would lighten and fathom tt. 1 insist that some one knew all of the deed, and could and should, if he has any regard for justice, tell atl he knows, I would rejoice to know who was the. perpetrator or perpet:ators of this most foul and villanous crime, for the suspense is terrible and wearing. The truth must come. If not to you andi, it will be known to all “when their sing shall all be made known.” This concluded Mr. Knox’s remarks; he retired, and Dr. ferry read a prayer, which finished the church service, The coffin containing the remains was not brought into the churen, ‘Tne no-tar party were very indignant that Dr. Knox did not come out more decided! and say what his honest convictions were. But he sal enough to satisiy the family and friends, and that ‘was ail he looked for. Among those who attended the funeral of C. G. Kelsey were Samuel F. Lockwood, of the Board of Brokers; Jenkins Van Scnatck, of the samé Board, witl Twain's iriend Dan, and a company of jadies from Jalip, one of the party, Mrs. Denning, who has not been here since 1835. Itis said that ~ ee @ relatives of the Kelseys, e CHANGE OF FEELING 4s marked on vehalf of those who eratwhile doubted the identity of the remains. As for the “tar party,” as they are calied, they are measura- bly shaken in the attitude they frst assumed. They are not so confident of the remains not being those of Kelsey. Meanwhile further developments are expected, and @ better knowledge of those who actually participated in the outrage is not at all unlikely next week. A TALK WITH MRS. OAKLEY. I asked Mrs.Vakley to-day :—*‘Madam, is it so that in an acquaintance of eight ce abl there never was avy ordinary intercourse tween your grand- daughter, Miss Smith, aud Kelsey?’’ “Never,” she replied emphatically. “My grand- daugoter never had any intercourse whatever with Kelsey. They met, it is true, at the same church, of which both were members, and the common jocm of acquaiotance that church members have was all that existed between them. She never spoke to him in this house except at the door there, to tell him to go away.”” “People think it odd, Mrs. Uakley, that there was nomore intimacy between them than what you say. “That, str, is becuse we live in a village; but such is the tact. “It is said that Miss Smith wrote him several letters. Is that true?” “It is not. She never wrote him a letter; ut peep aroducs, 1am told, some letters manulactured by Kelsey -himsell, and said to be written by my grandaaughter.” “What is the story of Kelsey's entering Miss Smith's bedroom?” “Weil, it occurred in this way:—There was a vis- itor at our house, a married lady, occupying m daughter’s bed that night. She woke avout mid- night on feeling a hand across her breast, and on Teaching down she met another hand. She sud- denly seized both hands and started bolt uprigtt on the edge of the bed. She held the man fast and called out loud, ‘Who are you?’ In relating the story the lady said that the man’s hands were wet with perspiration and that he trembled all over. She repeated the question twice in a still louder and more commanding tone of voice, and then the answer came, ‘If you wou'’t say any- thing I'll tell you,’ She promised not to say a word, and then he whispered in her ear ‘Kelsey.’ She immediately jumped out of bed, reached her hand up for his hair, but finding none on top, she slipped over his ear and caught hi by his long curis benind, With the other hand she held on to his whiskers. She dragged him over to the door, but he braced himseli so tight against the wall she was unable to get him out, so she quickly Jet him go and turned the key of the door on hin from the outside. she thought she had him a prisoner sure. She came down stairs, waked me and the girls up and said there was @ man in her bedroom named Kelsey. We all laughed at the Idea, and said she must be dreaming. None of us thought ior @ moment that she was serious. Finally we went up stairs, opened the door and found nobody in the room. ‘Then we felt satisfied she must have veen dreaming, but she got provoked and said, ‘Now Mrs. Uakiey st down there fora moment and J’ll tell you the whole affair.’ She told all that occurred just as I have told it to you, and then when we went to examine the window we lound the green blinds had peen pulled open. ‘rhe window itself was up, as it was summer time, but the outside blinds were always kept closed. Next morning early | went out and examined the ground under the bedrvom window and found marks of a ladder in the sod. The second time he came my granddaughter Abby was in the bed, sne woke of, ag ag | the blinds opened and saw @ man pulling his head back and disappearing down a ladder, is Was Kelsey too.” A TALK WITH MR. JOHN M’KAY, Meeting Mr. John McKay, I inquired :— “What was Kelsey’s motive in scaling Miss Smith's bedroom window? Was tt criminal ?” “Of course it was,” he answered ;‘‘you don’t sup- | ob any other motive in entering a jady’s bedchamber through the window alter mid- night. Kelsey intended an outrage and aiter that to clear away to Boston.” ah You believe he wrote the obscene letters 1” “1 do. “What proof have you? “I have a letter of Kelsey’s myself, and District Attorney Tuttle has another, addressed to him in reply to @ request of Tuttle's to stop his annoy- ance of Miss Smith. If you compare the hand- writing you will see they are the same.” I have made the comparison, and find the letters “w and “d’’ alike in both classes of letters, but in the ensemble of the chirography there is a ditfer- ence, which might be accoun for on the score that people do not always write in exactly the same way. : ante vam ue. Ya Dorma. ed Mr. es ea, the Sumo rahe inane sui See jaestion were ENO; Ldon't belle chron ever Sa “No; ve Cl y there was a fellow up this way Sammis, who could that Rest, But from New York, a friend of You look at hie name on my feeister you Wil see ie on ou will see handwriting is like Kelsey's i x “Do yeu think any one from outside of Hunting- ton was e! im the tarring aod feathering *” “I won't say, but there might have been. Sammis ware brought along une or two irom New “Ro ” “No, not roug! fellows that cail themselves Pn! business as tarring feathe: ing & man. “Do you believe Kelsey was mutilated ?” “Undoubt ; some of them gave themselves . he pooper ah hs. He could easily enough get atlemen to go into ing and mu- ks :— . TUL NGHOR.9 Sle Ragberine gad wg ntterances | Wins Wood sare 1m pw oTidsusa! ZA stand him up to put the tar and featherr was like a log of wood; his strength was was mutilated and bleeding; I believe tim on the ground and mutilated him beios, put the tar on.’? “What ig all this fuss about District Attorney Downing?” -. “{ tell you what it is, ifhe had been here ias night I wouldn’t have answered for his safety. believe the people would have lynched him. Thin ofaman defending the tar and teather vigtlanca committee and prosecuting for the people at tha same time, 'T wont do,” HUNTINGTON UPSIDE DOWN, The mental condition of the people of Hunting< ton at the present moment migat be compared ta the agitation and bewtiderment likely to be caused by turning @ caicium light on an owl roost, What an agony of spirit to the owl loverm of the dim twilight and the obscure isolation £ Huntington scarce knows whether it is standing; on its head or its heels, The great bull's eye Of a& World-embracing press has been turned on this rew mote and unpretending village with a vengeance, and if half the intabitants are not rendered drunk! or crazy by the ordeal of publicity through which the place is passing Providence be thanked, Be« fore Kelsey was tarred and feathered Huntingtom | Was as little heard of as if it lay basking in the sum | @t the source of the river Nile. The natives slep' all the year round, and now that they are rouse and kept awake by the newspapers everything i® upside down. Every other man you meet ts turn- ing gray, and bloodshot eyes are common, Hunte ington will be kept awake for an indefinite time, anda lunatic asylum must certainly be provided) ene: erty the way of the transgressor. Is hard, wine following call for a town meeting was issued? day :— To Danie, L. Rariis, Esq., Town Clerk of te tow: Huntingto: a of The undersignod, electors of the said. town of Hunting= N, oF freeholders therein, hereby request a special town meeting to be called, tor the purpose ot taking suctt, action as may be deemed ‘advisable in reference to the homicide of Charles @, Kelsey, deceased, und for the pure pose of deliberating in regard’ to the institution of sucky Proceeding, criminal prosecution or suit as the clrcume stances nay seem to call for, and to transact such othe busi ‘may properly come before the meeting, Signed by a number of citizens. HUNTINGTON'S CIVILIZATION. A Stinging Letter trom a Lady on thd Kelsey Outrage. To Tae EpiTor oF THE HERaup:— ) We are fond of boasting of our civilization, as if we, a8 & nation, had reached that high state of moral and political culture that we may challenge the admiration of (he world and call upon all other} Peoples to bebold our eminence and imitate our) example, i The more civilized a nation becomes the mo: polite, kindly, rational it becomes, It is human in the high, large sense. It ts dominated by the; higher sentiments pertaining to man as man, andi not by those lower and violent passionst which men share in common with the brute, The individual members of a highly ctvilj ized nation will be Christ-like. Order, refinement, and sympathy will characterize their relations with each other. Vulgar, sordid greed for wealth selfish ambition for distinction at the expense of others will disappear; but the question is too vast! to be discussed in a communication so brief as B design this to be. 1am led to address you first, because‘ of your temperate editorial in regard to the case of that: “most unhappy man of men,’ young Keisey, of Huntington, L. I., and because of the singular dis- crepaucies and most uncivilized opinions and judged ment of your corresponaent or interviewer, ‘| asks, “Did Charles Kelsey deserve to be tarred ant feathered?’ and then goes on gravely to affirm that he did. Jt makes the blood run cold to hear such a thing: amrmed ina journal claiming to be the greatest oD the age; a journal renowned for the enterprise of, its proprievor, and aeclaring that it ts the exponent: of the prevailing opinions of the day. is this: really true? Can we be so little civilized that am atrocity, which would shame the Dark Ages, can be perpetrated in a community, and that atrocity pro-’ hounced by the members of that hewandan “Served him right?’ What must be the stand: of morals in that community of Huntington ? wh must be the state of public opinioa in that com- munity of Huntington, when such @ ver- dict is rendered? hat mast be the humanity: oF that people of Huntington, when 8 gang: of crael, brutal desperadoes can assail an unpro-. tected man and horribly maltreat him, and not single man or woman interfere in his “lelence® What can be the kind of womanhood engendered) in that town of Huntington, where an old woman, and her granddaughter can be brought out to look upon the sufferings and contumely heaped upon & human being, and they can iook on and laugh? Would auy man dare to say to a pure, true-hearte: woman, “Come, see what we have doue to please: you,” unless they knew she was of the same mind) as themselves; was one with them in thougnt,/ feeling and civilization? Would not any true~ womanly woman have been overwhelmed with compassion, dumb with horror at that most piti- able sight of a human being, no matter who or What he was, so tortured on that cold, gloomy, November night? This outrage is the comment upon Bondngem civilization. It is not the tii alone tha: speakt j Out in Chis ultimate crime; it is only the ciimax to existing antecedents. It 1s the outspeaking of, internal opinions; it 1s the voice of what had long: before potentially made such a crime possible, The men engaged in the black manite jon are said to belong to the best class in Huntington—to be its churchgoers, its representatives, inte!li« gence, culture and morality. So be it. ey havi given the gauge of their civilization. Shame on & Deopte so depraved, so stolidly wicked, so savagely cruel in this nineteenth century! ELIZABETH OAKES SMITH. PaTcHocuE, L. L, Sept. 4, 1873, THE GERMAN REFORMERS, ae Preparing for the Fall Campaign. | The Central Committee of the German reform orte ganizations, which had their origin during the municipal reform movement two years ago, held) its first meeting after the summer vacation, at the Beethoven Maennerchor Hall, in Fifth street, last night, when, in the absence of the President, Henry Clausen, Marcus Otterburg presided. The Executive Committee, through 8. L. Seward, sub- mitted resolutions, which were adopted, reiter- ating that the orgunization is 1ounded on the prin- ciple that party interests in the selection of candidates for municipal offices should altogether, ve ignored and disregarded, and that honesty and ability should be exciusively looked upon as quali- fications for oMce, and that, therefore, it be re- solved that at the next municipal election only such candidates shall be supported who sre thas qualified. Further, that the organization shall nominate its own idates and vote for them, if candidates are nominated by other’ organizations who sranner stated. committee of was formed to repare a plan oO} bp yhe pe to carry out the above resolutions and; the principles and objects of the organization re- ferred to above. ‘The committee was composed of Messrs, Oswald Ottendorfer, Ferdinand ‘Traut, George Knester, Hermann Stemmerman and Charies M. Elsig. Action was also taken to assemble the severar Assembly district associations, to reorganize an prepare for action in the fall campaign. THE WORKINGHEN’S UNION. Perini ln wicarv one: Preparing for » Demonstration=Dissate isfaction with the Con juperintendent of Condemned as Resp: Eleventh Street Horrer, The Workingmen’s Union held a meeting at Pythagoras Hall, in Canal street, last night, whem Thomas T. Sautliffe presided, and by the Executive Committee resolutions were intro- ducea at the request of the trades calling for an indignation meeting in refers ence to Adams, the present Superintendent of buildings. The object of the demonstration is to denounce him, as he is held responsibie for the loss of life by the catastrophe in Eleventh street, in view of the fact that he employs @ tailor instead of a stone mason, a sbip joiner ins ste of @ house carpenter, a painter im place of @ bricklayer to superinten and inspect buiidings, and in view o! such @ state of affairs the removal of the delin~ quent Superintendent of Builders is to be de: mandea from the Mayor. A committee of flve wag. appointed to take in their hands the arrangement: for the demonstration, aud to visit the differen trades in reference to the matter. Subsequently an executive session was held,) when, in an informal manner, the prospects of po- litical’ aairs during the tail campaign were dis cussed, ‘The Workingmen’s Union fs at present compose® of representatives of tweive different trade untons, mambering about ninety delegates, THE PHILADELPHIA ORUELTY OASE, Mary Rowland and Sarah J. Baptiste Convicted. PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 5, 1873. ‘The case of the starving of Mary Rowland by hem step-mother, Mra. Josephine Rowland, and he sister, Miss Baptiste, came up in Rewular Court: afternoon. The step-mother and step-sister they are technically filed b; nce G coud Jury against thea in the. bil of the indictment as follows :—First, assault and battery second, ated assault and 3 sault an ttery with intent to kill, Aiter ing to the evidence given, a as stated time ogo in the HERALD, the jury rendered a dict of guilty upon the first two counts and lity ag to the last. The extent of their ent will be imprisonment for three $1,000 fine, provided their Je (ham A BOW trial,