Evening Star Newspaper, July 30, 1933, Page 2

*:%EXPEGTS VETERANS [T SEEK DD BASS {.Next Congress Faces Undo- {'hg of Special Session Acts, 'F~ Avers Senator King. ! continued Prom Pirst Page) happened when the Federal Govern- ment put through the Volstead act and set up an organization to enforce prohibition. The States sat back on their haunches and watched the Fed- eral authorities struggle with the problem. Senator King said that he had re- ceived demands, and other Senators have received the same, that the Fed- eral Government take command of the schools, and of all matters relating to public health. “It is quite clear,” said Mr. King, “that if the Government undertakes to handle all these affairs for the people, it will take a lot of money and . & lot more Federa) taxes.” A third factor” which is likely to militate against the reduction of Fed-. { eral taxes at an early date is found in . the necessity of footing the bills for the great Government activities in the recovery program—the Civilian Conservation Camps, the $500,000,000 » gift to the States to relieve unem- ployment, and the public works pro- gram now in full swing for which an appropriation of $3,300,000,000 already has been made. Prohibition Repeal Helps. Repeal of national prohibition is the most tangible source of early and new | revenues for the Government. If the wenty-first amendment to the con- titution is adopted, as Senator King { expects it will be, during the present | year, then the Federal license and ex- ‘.dse taxes on alcoholic beverages will ‘:bflnl in several hundred million dol- lars to the Treasury. li The great hope for reduced tax i rates, however, must lie in the recov- (,ery of business throughout the coun- try and the re-employment of labor. ' With a revival of business, taxable in- lfcomes will be built up and businesses #and corporations of all kinds will send Jan ever-increasing flow of money into ) the Federal Treasury. The recovery is still in the making. If the program ¥ now under way meets with signal suc- cess, the tax collections, under present ¥ rates, should be greatly increased dur- +ing the next year. In the meantime, however, Senator . King and his committee will continue to explore all sources of revenue. e other members of the committee, :which has met several times, are . Senators Barkley of Kentucky, Byrd *of Virginia, Reed of Pennsylvania and La Follette of Wisconsin. Senator #XKing has asked the assistance of the [ staff of experts of the Joint Commit- dtee on Internal Revenue Taxation. He is making an examination of all State laws relating to taxation. Would Amend Tax Laws. [ while the special senatorial com- mittee was set up primarily to study nd make a report on what may be one to eliminate double taxation, it fis the plan of Senator King to g0 Imuch beyond this point so as to be Teady when Congress ieets again to Yamend the Federal tax laws. In ex- \ploring new sources of taxation, the ! committee will examine the proposed general manufacturers’ excise tax, | more genernnyhrererrtd to as a sales ' tax, among others. | The effort will be made to eliminate double taxation in the Federal laws .and to find some practical way by 7 which the States and the Federal Gov- ¢ ernment will not bear down too heavily on the people through identical forms of taxation. [ Senator King said he would like to Jeave to the States as far as possible taxation on gasoline and automobiles, for example. On the other hand, he inted out that the States through fie mposition of estate taxes have, along with the Federal Government, ractically wiped out many estates and eft the heirs nothing. = Some plan should be evolved, he said, through the Jjoint action of the Federal Government Jand the States whereby the Federal ¥ Government would impose these estate taxes on an equitable scale and then jallot the States and to the Federal ‘¢Treasury fair shares of the revenue 30 ! Tal by Would Close Loopholes. ¥ In his study of the tax problem Sen- ator King said that efforts would be made to close ug all loopholes in the jtax laws whereby many individuals, rtnerships and corporations have found it possible to avold their fair Zshare of taxation. He referred particu- .',‘-lsrly to the case of partners of J. P. ' Morgan & Co. and of Kuhn, Loeb & '{Co., who avolded payment of income {iaxes In recent years. The whole ques- ¥tion of the so-called capital gains and , Josses tax will be gone into, he said. L The Utah Senator, who has been one ' of those who has fought against the constant increase in compensation and pensions to veterans until the check by the Roosevelt administration this year, is greatly afraid that, with a congres- sional election just around the corner, the Congress will not be able to stand out against the demands for a return of virtually all the compensation which jhas been cut off under the operation of the economy act and the President’s orders pursuant thereto. Members D; pressure already is beginning. % Senator King is chairman of the Sen- ate District Committee. He said that soon as he had completed the study 'of the general tax situation, he was oing into the tax system of the Dis- trict, which he says should be amended. (He has favored the imposition of an ncome tax here and also of an estate ax, with the elimination of the pres- nt personal taxes and with lower rates n real estate. IWEATHER STILL BALKING [ALTITUDE MARK ATTEMPT Kicut. Comdr. Settle Begins Becond } Week of Waiting—Ready at k Moment’s Notice. Py the Associated Press. CHICAGO. July 29—Lieut. Comdr. #I. W. G. Settle today began his second mweek of waiting for proper weather for his stratosphere flight in an attempt to better the world’s altitude record of 20.25 miles. His huge balloon, packed beneath a stand of Soldier Pield Satdium, and gondola, equipped with oxygen: tanks, cosmic ray counters and other scientific #nstruments, were in readiness. A thousand men in all parts of the wworld are his assistants in assembling Preather statistics which Settle studies. He announced that a high pressure a originating over the Arctic Ocean d moving along the west side of the nadian Rockies gives some a getaway Monday night. \ | YOUTHFUL BANDIT SHOT ¥ . PBoy, Wielding Gun, Gets $137. } Captured in Basement. “* PITTSBURGH, Ji 29 (#).—A boy ho says he is Elroy 11, of Elroy, u..wulhothy:mu'olmmwdu after he had robbed a coffee shop of $137 at the point th held Lead in Chest Fund Drive i Gives Star Tax Discount Business Expense Tnvolving $20,000 and $25,000 Gifts in 1929 and’ Long-Standing Policy. By fhe Assoclated Press. Board of Tax Appeals today held contributions to Community Chests by ' newspapers were deductable from income as business was shown the papers under poucywokthgludln%dnvn e lished for funds and that their contributions were reasonably.related to the proper business. conduct of their The decision was handed down in ‘thq appeal of The Evening ‘Star of ‘Washington, D. C., which was assessed |deflclenc1u in 1929 and 1930 of $677 and $3,547. The issue presented for determination was whether the pe- titioner was entitled to make deductions for contributions to the Washington Community Chest. ‘z"ae findings of (m“;;cuzd &‘ “the petitioner, a. corpora 9 pub- lisher of The Evening Star, a family newspaper, which, despite strenuous competition has the largest circulation than half of the advertising business in the city of Washington, in dollars it carries more business than all other papers in the city.” $20,000 and 325,000 Gifis. ‘The findings recited that in 1929 and 1930 the petitioner made contributions |to the Chest in the respective amounts of $20,000 and $25,000. The opinion said such contributions to a Community Chest when in the nature of a gift are deductable to a limited extent from the gross income of an individual but no such deduction is allowed to & tion. Since contribution may be either a charitable gift or a business expense, a taxpayer in order to secure a deduction as & business expense must show by suffi- cient evidence that the expenditure had in a direct sense a ressonable relation to its business. “The petitioner depends on its' ad- vertising revenue for its profits, and these in turn depend on the circula- tion of The Star,” the opinion said. “By a long and consistent policy of ad- vocating those causes and policies, civic and political, which its management believed to be for the good of the resi- dents of Washington, this paper now enjoys the ln{‘u: circulation of any | paper in that city. Its advocacy of the lcc.)mmunny Chest was in direct line expense -where it | it » 1930 Held Part of ' with this policy. It could not have done otherwise without to some extent on giving by , and-giving until it judgment of the petitioner’s direc- tors who viewed the matter as & purely business pr:roun.bn. After mature con- tion of all the facts presented, we concur.” The opinion noted Internal Revenue Bureau had pointed out the witnesses were unable to show in dollars grounds, expected that it would vent a loes. Under either aspect we think the petitioner is entitled to the deductions claimed.” Six of the 16 members of the board dissented in the opinion holding that such contributions could not be in any sense a business expense. TONG WARFEARED, POLCE CALLEDOUT New York’s Chinatown Guarded After Slaying of On Leong Member. By the Associated Press. NEW YORK, July 29.—Through shabby Chinatown, the fear of another tong war spread tonight. After a member of the On Leong Tong was shot and killed early today, police sent a heavy extra detail into the Mott street section to stamp out any flare-up of tong killings. Assistant Chief Inspector John J. Sullivan said strife might result among the Chinese from clashes over gambling and narcotic traffic. The inspector asked Department of Labor officials to aid in watching the district. Chinese Seen Darting Away. The strange quiet of the Chinafown area was shattered in the early morn- ing hours by pistol shots. Wing Ginn, an On Leong Tong man, tumbled down the rickety stair of a Doyers street house, six bullets in his body. A Chinese was seen by witnesses to dart down the darkened stair, hurdie his' victim and scamper down the street. Police said the Doyer street building ‘was once used as a headquarters for the Hip Sing Tong. ing Lee, :secretary of the On Leong ‘Tong, hurried to the Elizabeth Street Station, near Chinatown, soon after he heard of Ginn’s death. “There is trouble 4n Chinatown,” he told police. He would not enlarge upon his cryptic statement. Deportations Threatened. Inspector Sullivan sent 81 extra po- licemen into the district immediately after the shooting. flare-up here was ‘The last tong halted after police called in the immi- gration authorities and threatened widespread deportation proceedings against Chinese unless tong leaders or- e ‘u?-.pm"' id h od e 33 € WAS DPrepare to do the same thing unless he received assurance from the tongs that quiet would prevail. MATTERN FORCED DOWN Neither He Nor Pilot Injured in; Landing in Canada. TORONTO, Ontario, July 29 (#).— James Mattern, returning to New York after his unsuccessful effort to establish a round-the-world flight record, made a forced landing at Lionshead Bruce Peninsula today. Nefther Mattern nor his pilot, Pat Reid, was injured. The landing was :udde necessary by s cracked cylinder ead. Mattern said he would continue to Toronto in an_sautomobile and would take-off from here for New York to- morrow morning. Safe Driving Hint Keep to the Right There's safety and security in that little line that runs down always be right. true at all important as you aj h a curve or the brow of smL Mo- torists coming from the opposite direction have a right to expect this of you. Don't hold to the center of the 0CONNELL HOPES BUOYED BY RUMOR {Report of Impending Release of Kidnap Victim Spreads in New York, By the Associated Press. ALBANY, N. Y, July 29.—Reports, unsubstantiated in official circles, were | freely circulated tonight that John J. [oX 11, jr., would be released by his ku ?tt:m m;-:’w. there several es ore ‘WaS an alr of optimism around the office of District Attorney John T. Delaney but ' none of the city or county ials ould the Wi The TUMOrs. uncles of the kidnaj National Guard officer, Ed and DD:: political powers Upstate, said they “hope the reports are true” Ed O'Connell is Deniocratic county chairman and head of the cltr organization. *O’Connell, 24 years old, was abducted ion July 7. His kidnapers demanded a T foughout the 33 roughout 23 days since O'Con- nell disappeared his uncles and father, SR gang 3 he would carry out its threat to kill their prisoner if the police were called into meldc lgi:onneu " , at a telephone in the city, and Dan and “Solly,” near a tele- Rhnne at the Helde: Mountain lome of the former, 30 miles from the city, were hopeful that the y man would be returned before dawn. .al)ol‘ed l;l“tth:h:mcu of the district at- rney, dn”od through s .ndy night mnt finite word of a delivery. A plainclothes man patrolled in front of O'Connell home in Putnam nell, the abducted man’s mother, has kept a long, anxious vigil. | | BIG PAY ROLL INCREASE PLANNED BY RAILRPAD Reading to Add to Maintenance Forces and Increase Hours of Present Employes. By the Associated Press. PHILADELPHIA, July 29. — The ‘Reading Railroad announced today that, effective August 1, “additional forces in the maintenance of equipment and maintenance of way departments will be employed and the number of hours of present employes increased equiva- lent to 1,000 additional employes.” ‘The statement said the increases “are exclusive of -train and engme service employes, where additional employment will be f¢ automatically as business improves. T, “The increases in all probability will be maintained during lance of the year, and should the present trend in general business continue additional men will be re-employed.” SAFE OPENING DELAYED Date Yet to Be Fixed for Check of Ship’s Valuables. NORFOLK, Va., July 29 (#).—No date been fixed for the WOUNDS TWO, KILLS SELF Real Estafe Dealer’s Act Laid to Dispute Over Sale. OKLAHOMA CITY, July 29 (A —C. E. Davis, 60, shot and critically wound- ed W. A. Green, real estate dealer, and QGreen’s wife, Mrs. Irene Green, killed himself here late today. * ‘Witnesses said the BREWERY OWNERS LOSE COURT FIGHT ffort to Bloek Grand Jury Testimony Vain in Battle for Permit. _ip By the Associated@ Press, PHILADELPHIA, July 20.—Testi- mony obtained by a grand jury may “This be revealed in another legal proceeding if the evidence is vital to the interests of justice, Federal District Court ruled today. Federal Judge William H. Kirkpat- rick in making this ruling, denied the contention of the Union City (N. J.) Brewery that use of such testimony violated the rule of grand jury secrecy. Government attorneys, who used such testimony in hearings on the revocation of the Union City establish- ment's permit, regarded the ruling as an important point in their drive against certain brewerles alleged to be racket-controlled. Fights to Keep Permit. ‘The Upion City Brewery is one of mwfimwflhm’mflx‘cfim- really all in one chain operated by Max Hassel, slain Reading beer baron, and his associates. In the proceedings on the revocation dence testimony Jury at the time was consi jed liquor law violations uring pre- | City Co. through an associate of Hassel. Upheolds Jury’s Powers. Harold Simandl of Newark, N. J., counsel for the brewery, contended the testimony was obtained in “bath faith,” since the Delaware County case Was unrelated to the revocation He asked Judge Kirkpatrick to re the authorization and order withdrawn the testimony presented in the revoca- Judge kpatrick pointed out that the customary rule of grand jury secrecy can be relaxed when the interests of Justice require, and that such deviation is allowable in matters pertaining to & general investigation of law violation. Simandl declared that the grand jury investigation here was a “subter- fuge” for obtaining evidence for the revocation of the Union City permit. Judge Kirkpatrick, however, held that the scope of grand jury powers is so at that it can go to limitless gths in an investigation. “The grand jury, beyond all question, the Wisconsin manufacturers and to interrogate them on their sale of brewery equipment,” the ruling held. 'PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE LOSS NOT BEMOANED Byrd and Glass Agree Failure. to Put One in Richmond Is Not Serious Blow. By the Associated Press. ‘WINCHESTER, Va., July 39.—Speak- ing for Senator Glass and himself, United States Senator Harry F. Byrd said today that the failure of Rich- mond to get a regional office in the Public Works Administration should not prove a serious loss. He said he understood that the regional public works administrator will have only a skeleton organization of two or three assistants and -that the regula: tions now provide that “applications for public works expenditures shall be made quarters in Washington gional administrator is* called in only when :t d:‘ necessary to expedite any part of program.” Although Richmond had at first been selected as the site of the tenth dis- strict regional public works office, head- quarters were to Baltimore at the request of George L. Ratcliffe of that city, the administrator. “Richmond,” Mr. Byrd asserted, “was unquestionably the proper selection and in the event tfe regional director be- comes more important in the sdminis- tration of the fund, Senator Gilass and I will take up the matter direct with Committee Wi FEAR FOR PREMIER’S LIFE Three in Budapest Charged With Plotting Against Goemboes. BUDAPEST, Hungary, July 29 (#).— The arrest of three with plotting to assassinate Premier Goemboes on his return from his visit to Rome, where he held discussions with Pmnle;y ‘:hmunlte'u to- it e Enl . led here that today was the execution to_be » Lt meusm.:{:m Mother Greets Roosevelt at Hyde Park PRESIDENT ON ARRIVAL AT NEW YORK HOME FOR VACATION. | RS. JAMES ROOSEVELT, mother of the President, greeted the Chief Executive and Mrs. Roosevelt when they arrived at their Hyde ?‘tk, N. Y., home yesterda - to sperd about a month. During their stay it will be the Summer White House. The Roosevelts are shown i front of the beautiiul home on their arrival, with the President’s mother standing beside the car. TOBEONOLD STE Tennessee Valey Direstors Deeide on Location Nerth af Knoxville. By the Associated Press. KNOXVILLE, Tenn., July 29.—The Tennessee Valley Authority announced today its three directors had decided to build the $35,000,000 Cove Creek Dam “substantially in its present location” on Clinch River, 20 miles north of here. Arthur E. Morgan, chairman, also said that “the board regretted very much not being able to make the ap- pointment” of Kendall Weisiger of At- | lanta as personnel director for the Au- thority. Weisiger is assistant to the president of the Southern Bell Tele- phone Co. “It was the intentlon to present Mr. ‘Welsiger's name to the board for dis- cussion,” the chairman's statement said. “Through s misunderstanding in the Washington office an employe of the Authority gave Mr. Weisiger to un- derstand thst his employment had been uj The statement added that “the board BARLD% Sy waverse . i empioy: s Ve - nnun:‘- of men associated with pumc The present site for the power and flood control dam at Cove Creek was located by Army engineers several ago. Dr. Mg":u} h:?naunud n; 'ashington recen! 30 AN uvu‘;‘l:ld Burve m‘:fd been “g:e“d to it s e.wk‘:unmfl.;’& the location would to be c! h.l'): Morgan said the Authority dis- cussed the prospect of using some of the Civilian Conservation Corps forces mmm Cove during w"'!“::v'nd December these forces must Rocky Moun! New York,” the chairman i may be used on the lands surrounding the Cove Creek reservoir in stopping soil erosion and in forestation. —_— EXCHANGE CONTROL BY U. S. SUGGESTED Hamilton Fish, Jr., Says Govern- ment Must Step in if Rules Aren't Changed. By the Associated Press. NEWBURGH, N. Y., July 29.—Gov- ernment regulation of the New York Stock Exchange was by Rep- rumntg: Hunnwn’ , .cl'r‘, m strict marginal operations and short s group of Orange at were numhl&:l out last week as the rnny‘.“d e few Y:'rk Btocf Ex- change es permif almost un- limited = speculation on marginal’ ac- “The financial and efonomic sta- bility of the country.” he said, “requires that these violent fluctuations in mar- ket securities must be checked, ane unless done Stock Exchange regulation of the New York Stock Exchange will be necessary.” WEAKENED BY HEMORRHAGE, GOV. RITCHIE FORCED TO REST Remedies I(ings Hurey Call for Physician. Occurs Shortly After Execu- tive Reaches Ocean City foraRest. € B i i g o efREEE ¥ 'EEEE y | Power by raising wages and spreading | t|ELORIDA PREPARES JESSE H. JONES. JONES WILL SPEAK I RADIO FORUM R. F. C. Chairman’s Subject | Tuesday Night “Bankers’ Part in Recovery.” The extension of credit to turn the wheels of industry is a vital part of President Roosevelt's national recovery program and Jesse H. Jones, chairman of the bogrd of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, will explain the| part the bankers are taking in the| gigantic attempt to lift purchasing| employment, in the National Radio| Forum Tuesday at 9:30 p.m. ‘The forum is arranged by The Wash- ingtorr Star and is broadcast over a Nation-wide network of the National Broadcasting Co. The speech is to be heard locally over Station WRC. Mr. Jones has chosen for his subject “The Bankers' Part in the Recovery Program,” and it will be the first dis- cussion of this phase of the general Tecovery plan. T} reconstruction finance chief’s speech will be the fourth on the re- covery subject in the forum. Four —A. P. Photo. L4 < COVE CREEK DAM | Fornm spesker | PRESIDENT ENOYS FIRST DAY AT HOME % Dons Vacation Moed, Places Rest High on Program at Hyde Park. (Continued Prom First Page.) party are settling down as though they intended to stay some time. An elabo- rate executive office has been set up in an office building on the main street of Poughkeepsie, 7 miles from the Presi- dent’s home, as though business was t0 'some be transacted for a few weeks at least. Secretary Mclntyre is in charge of the office, and it will be there that all those seeking audiences with the Presi dent during his stay will present them. According to Mr. Mclntyre few engagements are going to be made, and only those that are looked uj imperative. Secretary of State Hull, with whom the President is eager to talk about the London Conference, is soon, as is Secretary of the ‘Woodin. mnt Roosevelt was deeply touched at the friendly and enthusi- astic manner in which he was received upon his arrival today. The home-com- ing was simple and quiet and the wel- come was genuinely sincere. Cheers and waving hands peared on the rear platform of mfl train when it came to a stop at Park at 10 am. There were 300 pon as | far southwestern corner of INE STRIKE AREA IS REPORTED QUIET Penneylvania Guardsmen orf Duty, Although Sheriff Won’t Withdraw., (Continued Prom First civilians are not permitted in the camp. ‘They withdrew to the highway, but maintained their vigil. Mushroom-like, tents began popping up and within an hour after arrival of the battalion, the camp was ready for occupancy. Wests Field will be the concentration center from which details of Guardsmen will be dispatched to strategic points in the strike area. In spite of the presence of Guards- men, Sherift E. Hackney of Fay- ette County early tonight had not withdrawn any of his deputies whose removal was demanded by Gov. Pin- chot under threat of declaring martial law in the coal flelds. Sherift Offers Co-operation. Gov. Pinchot, directing Maj. Momeyer to lead the 2d Battalion, 112th Infantry, to the mine fields, expressed the hope that “not a single shot will be fired or will need to be fired.” His order authorized military control over the strike zone. Constitutional lawyers said the order had the effect of creating martial law, though the Governor avoided use of the term. Sheriff Hackney disputed the Gover- nor’s order, and said that he still is the civil authority in Fayette County, and that the troops are subordinate to He indicated he will co-operate with the 1f they co-operate with him. coal strike is the latest of & trade. Many ked the situation, but there have no fatalities. Mine Strike Spreads. ‘The Fayette County strike has spread to mines in adjoining Washington and Greene Counties. At the Mather, Pa., mine of the Pickands-Mather Co., 500 joined the movement after 200 strike wmp-t.&i:z: had warned them not to enter mine. Sporadic rifie and pistol fire has marked the walkout in the vicinity of Upiontown. Ten persons were injured in clashes between pickets and deputies in the last four days. After hearing that troops were com- ing, many of the miners spent the day quietly at their homes. There was some picketing, on a small scale. Miners in groups marched along the highways, carrying American flags and others who were near the mines held banners reading: “Stop and present your cre- dentials. Fayette County is the principal source of bituminous coal for the Nation's greatest steel center—Pittsburgh. It nestles in & mountainous country, in the Pennsylvania, about 60 miles from the steel capital. Its winding roads and hillsides present a picture of peace and contentment. William Feeney, president of District 4, United Mine Workers, said the miners welcomed with open arms” the Gover- mnor’s action in ordering out the militia. A strike of radiator and glass workers in Washington County was settled anly yesterday by H. D. Friel, United States Department of Labor conciliator. Friel today came to the Fayette fields to study the coal situation. Cites Rights of Parties. Gov. Pinchot stressed the comstitu- tional rights involved in his orders to e e b right to “The miners have the = ize and to picket peacefully and m speech and assembly. “The mine operators are entitled to have their property protected from damage. This right is fully established and | in the laws of Pennsylvania.” der | that officers of the United is| ers Poughkeepsie, seemed ve happy to welcome his old neighbor, tl:{ President. ‘The Governor advised Maj. Momeyer e Work- had given him “their solemn pledge” to keep members from partici- pating in violence. He urged ‘“calm- ness and cool thinkin Earlier, John L. Lewis, national president of the union, charged the H. C. Prick Coke Co. “is fomenting in creased trouble through the importa. tion of gunmen.” Gov. Pinchot, too, in his first message yesterday to Sheriff Hackney asking to withdraw his deputies, said: “I am reliably informed that the PFrick company, with: your co-operation, is im Mrs. Cornelia Bryce Pinchot, wife of e | the Governor, recently marched with ‘weeks ago Secretary of Commerce Daniel | cheered C. Roper, chairman of the National Industrial Central Bclll':"lim spoke on the how his tion expected to restore Jobs to millions of the Nation’s unem- ployed by Labor day. FOR STORM TO HIT LOWER EAST COAST (Continued From Pirst Page.) - severe than present indications. Small craft generally along the Lower East Coast were made fast in safe DANGER ZONE EVACUATED. Presi- | & strikers in the textile centers and cam- paigned against sweatshops. Her. iriend, Miss t(e:hnl']m.t! E. I ind as successor Dr. A. N. Northrup after the latter accused Miss Carr of fomenting strikes. This is the first time since 1932 that National Guardsmen have been sent to .| & strike zone in Pennsylvania. : | Sheriff Hackn The President it there be no mark his return an with his personally requested demonstration to the citizens com- Await Conference. ‘The soft coal fields eagerly await & ey. Maj. Momeyer he will talk the situation over with the sEgey Egfigiiig Er