Evening Star Newspaper, September 21, 1923, Page 27

I Se_hzi-fin BY W. R. McCALLUM. o LOSSMOOR COUNTRY CLUB, 2 his title against a2 two-time" wi and-the man-who has gone fa other American in the British open championship, Jess Sweetser of New York, amateur golf cha Gardner in the semi-fi Mars was mpion of the on of Philadelphia, Merion's p of the open championship. To retain the title he won last year at Brookline Sweeétser must play golf of the same high type he show gettinglaround Flossmoor in better than qualifying round, and then he must aga game in the final, sharpshooters of the most accurate every d Sweetser's game is at its peak. he proved yesterday by defeating Jesse Guilford of Boston, the slege gun, | whose batterles were spiked in the afternoon by inaccuracy on his tee shots and the uncertainty of his putt- Ing—usually the successful comple- ment to a game chiefly made up ofl tremendous .slugging from the tee The othér Boston entry ,came through with a heart-breaking tory over George Von Elm, the Salt Lake City battler, ho succumbed to | Francis Oulmet on the seventeenth after the exit of Ouimét from the tournament seemed certain. The other two matches on the third day were one-sided, Bob Gardner winning as he pleased by 6 and 5 from Densmore Shute of West Virginia, +«while Max Marston, although he started badly fn the morning, came through in the afternoon with a 4 3 victory over Joe Wells of East Liverpool, Ohio. Yesterday’s Matches Epies. | The Guilford-Sweetser and Ouimet- | Von EIm matches yesterda) were golfing epics of the type .that have made this championship probably thie most sensational in point of fine golf | and close .natches than any other, Both matches were won on the seven- teenth green, the 35th of the contest, and both were won by the men Who| were most consistently holing the five-foot putts—the kind that win and lose champlonships. Gullford con- tributed to his defeat by a lack of accuracy from the tee, but the verdict was really reached on the putting green, where the siege gun's putts wouldn’t drop with the certainty they rapped against the bottom of the tin on the two previous days, In the Quimet-Von Elm matéh the verdict went to the man who lald his approaches closest to the pin and then sank the putt—a story of the winning_ of any champlonship often told, and always a repéater. Although Francis was 2 up,at the luncheon interval, he started’ out in .sloppy. fashion in the aftefnoon and reached the eighth hole 1 down, following a beautiful fifteen-foot, putt for a 2 by Von Elm at the seyenth, which curled away from the cup, ¢ame’ back, and dropped with a satisfying “plunk. Sweetser won from Gullford chiefly through the mistakes of the player from Boston, for Sweetser in the afternoon showed nothing like: the golf he displayed in the morning when he shot a 72—two wnder par— to turn all square with ‘the slege gun. He went out ia 38 and turned 2 up on Guilford, ‘when he should have been 3 up, as he took three to get down from the edge of the ninth reen. When Sweetser finally shook ands with Guilford on the thirty- fifth green, the champion was three over par for the last eighteent fiblég—4 OP; RfoUtE—no hardly Gompatible with the pace®he set in the morning, but still good enough to beat the nerveless Guijford. Gullford Often in Trouble. * v This match drew the largest gai- lery of the day, but did not have the sustained interest of the Quimet- Von Elm struggle, where brilliant shot was followed by brilliant, shot and the decision hung on the turn of a ball as it ran up to the lip of the cup. Guilford was in trouble on seven of the first nine holes, whilg Sweetser, although he played one second shot from the rough: was more uniformly straight. Even the siege gun, great as he is, could not keep holsting them out of the rough with the adoufracy he played. from the fairway, and at Tast it told. The gun_ dropped the third, fourth and sfxth, after winning the first to turn 2 down, Sweetser taking three putts on the first green Sweetser annexed the tenth with a magnificent brassie to the green, and won the eleventh with a fine iron shot, while Guilford tpok three putts; They halved the next,two.and then QGuilford won two in. a fow. Sweetser pitching over the fourteenth 'to. lose end again overplaying the' fifteenth At the sixteenth tee the:Boston play- er stooq 2 down. but the "bést he could get was a half with the fast- fiying_champion. i ‘Guilford couldn’'t get home -on the seventeenth against the. wind, and zha match ended there with the champion 2 up and 1 to go. Sweetser dtan't putt well all-day long. He didn't get down a respectable putt and missed two under three feet on the out nine in the afternoon, but he kept out of trouble and most of his putts were for birdies, while Jess was struggling to'equal par. Von Elm Takes the Lead. 4 Two up orn George Von Elm at poon, Ouimet got hi 1f into a hole early in the afternoon, dropping the third hole through & -hooked brassie shot and losing the sixth to square.l the match when he failed to get ‘home in 2. Right there Von Elm, a scrappy golfer and a wonderful put- ter, took the: bit in his teeth, and pank a fifteen-foot putt for a,birdie 2 at the seventh, with Francis’ ball hanging on the 1ip of the cup. Von Elm, 1 up, got a good half at the ighth, a fine chip shot six inches from the cup, getting the half. And @t the ninth it was Francis who did well to get a half, for he had to hole an eight-footer after & weak ap- proach putt. The man from the land of the $acred cod put his back into a brassle nal of_the 1923 tilt for the title. Francis Ouimet of Boston, urbanc, a splendid golfer, and a former holder of the title he is struggling for today, as well as a former holder on the Flossmoor battleground. {took 3 ok oo Today in Title Golf : Missouri Valley Foot MARSTON MEETS OUIMET; SWEETSER PLAYS GARDNER Champion’s Defeat of Guilford Largely Due to Lat- ter’s Inaccurate Putting—Francis Is Extend- ed by Von Elm. Chicago, September, 21.—Defending tner of ‘the amateur chahipionhip rther, with one exception, than any § United States, today met Robert A 3 tilt Opposing Max ride, in the other half of the draw, ved last year; for Gardner has bceu' 75 since the second half of the 0 come through with the same order, and par has taken a beating MERION CLUB AWARDED 1924 AMATEUR TOURNEY CHICAGO, September 21.—~The Merion Cricket Club of Haverford, Pa., just autside of Philadelphia, was selected as the scene of the 1924 amateur champlonship by the exccutive committee of the United States Golf Assoclation, In sesslon here. The Merion club ix the home club of Max Marston, who defeated Bobby Jones here wednesday. The association did not take ac- tion on ‘the award of u course for the open championship. Merion is the course where Bob Jones first appearcd on the amateur cham- Plonship sceme. Perhaps he will win there. shot at the ten: and was down to get th that got the green In & while Von Elm down from just off the green. ~ This put Francis .all square, and although his tee shot to the short eleventh was short, he still g0t a half with a five-foot putt. Agaln he laid into a brassle shot at the long twelfth and won the hole with a birdie 4, Von Elm pushin# his second to the right. Now Francis was 1 up, but he threw it away with an underplayed pitch to the short thirteenth, taking a 4 to Von Eim's par 3. At the fourteenth it appeared as if Francis had cracked under the pace, for he pitched over the green into a trap. He got away with a half, however, playing a putter out of the trap and holing a six-foot side- hill shot. Bréak Comes on Fifteenth. Then came, the break, definite and final, that spelled the ‘end of the Salt Lake City lad. Both were in the rough from the tee, both played short of the ditch, and theff Francis finally ‘got hold of ‘'a mashie shot that almost holed out from 160 yards, and he won the hole with a birdle 4. Von Elm sliced his tee shot to the six- teenth. and failed to get home in 2 and “lost another hole to become dommie 2 down. Although Ouimet missed. his third shot at the seven- teenth, he'got a. half to win the match _with a fine approach putt from off the green. Francls says he feels fine, and is strong enough to go the route, but he don't look like the Ouimet of ten years ago. His face is drawn gnd thin and he_watches his putts with e confldent Ouimet | of ten years back. If he wins, he will win on sheer nerve, for his shots late yesterday plainly lacked the sting."of the old Francis. But of course he. was .playing against a tough lad— a lad who was out in 35, playing astounding golf and a bat- tler: Trom -the first bell. Von Elm is amateur champion of a boxing club in Salt Lake City, and he re- sembles a scrapper. His golf shows it, for he is never beaten until the ball is in the cup. Joe Wells had a fine start against Max Marston, turning for luncheon 1 up on the blonde from Philadelphia. But Wells found trouble from the tee in the afternoon. was out in 42, against 38 for Marston, and turned 3 down. ‘From then on the steadiness of the conqueror of Bobby Jones,told | and Wells went down on the fifteenth green, 4 and 3, Gardner Has Tt Easy. Bob Gardner romped through an| easy day with Densmore Shute, who | wa® off his game in the morning and could not pick up any of the six-hole lead. Gardner attained. Gardner has tougher going today against Sweetser and probably will lose. Bobby Jones-again proved his right | to the amateur medal play crown | wheri he won the play-off of his tie in | the * qualifyiig réund with Chick | Evans- vesterday afternoon, shooting | a sciptillating 72—two under par—to | 76°€oF Evans. Sixes in the tenth and | twelfth proved: Evans' undoing. He hogked a drive'at the tenth and found a trap,.while he looked up on a short pitch at the twelfth. Bobby breezed back in 35—three under par--after getting out in 37. They tied at 149 last Monday for low Score in the medal round, Evans missing a five- foot putt on the home green to win. U. S. WOMAN GOLF STARS MEET IN CANADIAN-EVENT MONTREAL, ' September ' 21. Glenna Collett- of Providence, and. Miss Alexa Stirling of New meet in one frame of the semi-finals of the Canadian women's open gold championship today, while Mrs. Hope Gibson of Hamilton, Ontario, - and Mrs. W. A. Favin come together in the other. In the third round yesterday Miss Collett defeated Mrs. D. C. Hurd, Ham- ilton, Ontario; Miss Stirling defeated Mrs. Harold Hutchings, Winnipeg; Mrs. Gibron defeated Miss Ada MacKenzie Missisagua, and Mrs. Gavin defeated Miss H. Meehan, Cedarbrook, Pa. | the blackboard and the pencil. {paddled to ¢ s 2 {legs would he for all the men now left in this man’s tournament are [sixteenth green just as Francls playéd . THE EVENING STAR, WASHINGTON, D. C, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1923. SCHOOL IS A PRISON TO QUIMET’S CADDY Special Dispateh to The Star. FLOSSMOOR COUNTRY CLUB, CHI- CAGO; September 21.—Edmund 'Hat- field, fifteen-year-old schoolboy of Chicago Helights, was broken-hearted Vesterday. His hero was taken away from him. For five ddys Edmund cad- died for Francis Ouimet, semi-finalist in this amateur golf champlonship. But yesterday morning Edmund had to go back to school and, taking up his books where e left off last June, he trudged away to his lessons. But his heart was far from the calm of It was away out on the golf course, where his hero was matching, shot for shot, In a grim struggle with George Von Eld. Luke Ross, Bobby Jones' caddle, was carryine the bag of Francis OQui- met. Edmund schoolroom rushed forth from the yesterday afternoon and Flossmoor as fast as his carry him. He got to t his pitch shot, and, worming his way through the great throng that watched the Ouimet-Von Elm epic, 2w his hero hole the foot putt that put him 2 up, And then Edmund broke down. He wept frankly and unashamed. He had heard of , this Von Elm person as a tough gent, and had looked forward to pulling his man through the match. But a stern parental edict told Joe to go' to school, and here was his hero, winning with- out him. Edmund always has looked up to Francis Ouimet as his golfing ideal. He wrote to Francis from Chicago two weeks before the tournament, asking the Boston star if he could not carry for him. Of course, Francis answered in the aflirmative, and he j{pulled Ouimet through the struggle {with Willie Hunter on Wednesday. Now Edmund has to sit 'on the side lines, but from the carved desk in a little schoolhouse thirty miles south of Chicago a Weart is somewhere out on the golf course today, pulling with all its might for Francis Ouime 3 MIss By winning the junior tournam under seventeen, whose fathe: Association, this young lady LENGTHY GOLF COURSES O BAR TO LOW SCORES BY W. R. McCALLUM. F LOSSMOOR COUNTRY CLUB, and its long holes have definitely proved the fallacy of attempting Chicago, September 21.—Flossmoor to restrict low scores in golf tournaments by stretching the holes to great distances. This course, where the national amateur, champion- ship now is in progress, has six par 5 holes—holes that the good player is expected to reach in three shots. Yet every one of them has been reached in two shots, and Jesse Guilford, the Boston strong boy, has been over two of the longest holes with two shots. This tournament, even with the slow course that has been the rule so far, has proved the contention of many that the constantly lowering of course records is due to the long ball, Experts claim the only way to pre- vent the mighty smiters from going around in unbelievably low figures is to so trap the greens and falrways that distance is made secondary to accuracy, With bpnkers so severe that great distance cannot be ob- tained from them and a rough so heavy that no competitor will get a brassie lle. Heavy Rough Prevails. In a measure the latter problem has been solved at Flossmoor. President Thompson of this club gave orders several weeks ago that the rough should be allowed to grow up long and heavy. *I don't want any one taking a brassie or a spoon out of this rough/\ he said. And_the competitors are.not. They are more frequently than' not using mashies and sometimes niblicks. For this reason. and this reason alone, the scores at Flossmoor are not proving 50 low as at other championships. Distance itself does not mean much to the great hitters, such as Ells- worth Augustus, Guilford, Gardner and Bobby Jones, the open champion. But a severe rough that takes a pen- alty of & stroke from the player un- fortunate enough to find It means something definite. And the players here realize it. Most of them, except on the wide open holes, such as the first and eighteenth, are striving to keep down the fairway rather than to get astonishing distance. 'And therein lies the difference be- tween the expert golfer and the or- dinary champlonship player. The ex- pert can get his usual distance with- out exerting himself. Chick Evans, Bobby Jones, Gardner, Guilford, Ouimet, Sweetser and_the other stars car get 240 yards without exertion. The oth- ers, just short of stardom, have to press a bit to get this distance. Tm doing so they find the rough or the traps scattered over these Tilinois prairies which have been turned into a beautiful golf course. And they waste shots getting out of trouble while the #agmmes 275 iy ing for the pin. ‘When the fine player gets into trou- ble he plays first to get out and next he plays for the pin. The other chap, and it is showing up again at Floss- moor, as in every previous champion- ship, ‘tries for the bold shot, and he fails more often than not. Therein lies the difference. Stars Dom't Mixs Them. Men like Augustus, Manion, Cum- mings, Couch and scores of others all play their: shots as well as the Jonés-Sweetser type. But they miss a few, where the nationally known stars don't miss them, and the differ- ence means the difference between championship golf and the other kind. They drive as far, they play their frons as well and they putt as well, but they dont score as well. Bill Fownes has got the hunch, He is never off the golf course, never far at least pin. The average wins, says Fowne: and his record shows it shots—that is badly always on the fafrway and a good That describes a man who with any amateur in the country and not need odds. DEMPSEY TO GET GLAD HAND:IN SALT LAKE SALT LAKE CITY, September 21.— Salt Lake is making extensive plans to welcome home Jack Dempsey, who successfully defended his heav. welght crown against Luis Angel Firpo. Dempsey is expected to arrive tomorrow afternoon. . The Chamber of Commerte will have charge of the program. Demp- sey will be met at the train by mem- bers of the Chamber of Commerce | and other representative business men of the city and state. He will be the guest of hopor at a member- ship luncheon Gov. C. R. Mabey has been asked to speak. CHICAGO, September 21.— Jack Dempsey. heavyweight champion, during his stay here yesterday. stood on the corner of State and Madison streets, called by Chicagoans the world's busiest corner, and watched his friend, Detective Sergeant Mike Trant arrest Stanley Jurzna, eleven, called by police the city's voungest pickpocket. The champibn amd the detective saw the boy lift a purse from a woman's handbag, unnoticed by the victim. She refused to sign a com- blaint when the purse was returned to Fer. 4 AUTO GLASS FOR WINDSHIELDS OR BODIES. Installed While You Wait. Taranto & Wasman 1017 XEW YORK AVE. N.W. Look Your Best At Low Cost If yoware going to spend as much as $35.00 on a suit, you owe it to yourself to have .the bes material and workmanship possible; whith mear that you should purchase —AN L. HAAS—FALL AND WINTER— Tailored:to-Measure - ALL-WOOL 1923 Fall and Winter Materials and styles show » decided change. We in- vite your inspection. ON, You get a try- on in the baste, ‘which assures a perfect fit. » 3-Pc. SUIT GIRL GOLFER MAY BE COMING STAR al :!memben of the Metropolitan s but always Is plugging for the | | ent at the Englewood Club for Ilt olf ted considerable attention. Foot Ball Fact What type of man should pléy fullback? { Answered by J. W. HEISMAN Coach of footbal Jefferson Unive, University of Penns; Georgia Tech tea which he coach- | ed, wax unanimously chosen as the best team in the country. * k% % “To play successfuly the position of fullback a man should weigh be- tween 170 and 190 pounds, and his best range of height is from five feet nine inches 'to six feet. He should have broad shoulders, a short, thick neck, a deep chest, a strong, thick waist, good, sturdy -legs and a rugged frame generally. he full- back should be a quick stdrter, and the faster on his feet the better. He should run with traction, and he must be able to get up a tremendous momentum within a short distance. He must be clear-headed, aggres- sive, and dogged to a degree (buck- ing), self-sacrificing and acrobatic (blocking), fearless and tireless (tackling). He must be able to ab- sorb punishment. (Copyright, 1928, Associated Editors.) JACK MAKES PROVISION FOR SOME RAINY DAYS FALLS., > Yo Dempsoy. realizing that rew champions arise with the pass. ing of the years, has made financial provision for the future by taking out and paying up in full a fifteen- year_endowment life insurance policy for $25,000. The policy was sold to the cham- plon by a local underwriter when ha was training for his bout with Luis Firpo. Dempsey paid with a check for $16,618. } Septembey| 21 wel PRELIM BOYS THRILL |“BEAT NEBRASKA” AG FANS AT SPORTLAND| SLOGAN IN THAT SECTION Main-go boxers failed to enthuse the more than 2,000 fans at Heinfe Miller's Sportland fight show last night, but the preliminary bouts provided an abundance of entertainment. The twelve-round final, in which Young Andy Bowen, Washington's hard-work- ing featherweight, gave Sammy Fulton of Trenton, N. J., a neat trimming, was not appreclated by the crowd that went wild over the efforts of the less dis tinguished artists in the early mills. Young Denclo, a_104-pound Filipino, spotted Vinecent Carbon, Fort Myer cavalryman, ten pounds and knocked the soldier in the sixth round. In the earlier rounds, -Denclo -scored several knockdowns, and in the sixth ended the bout with a couple of socks to the solar plexus. The opening prelim of four rounds saw Pinky White, Baltimore flyweight, bewilder Jerry Clark, a much heavier Washingtonian, with a flock of blows that Janded all the way. Terry O’'Day did not haye any trou- ble with Joe Jackson, substituted for Buck Taylor of Baitimore, putting his man away in the gecond round. Tex Stovall, the fighting marine, _also knocked out Joe Fontaine of Washing- ton in the second round. SIKI'S FIRST BATTLE IN U. S. IS IN COURT NEW_ YORK, September 21.—Bat- tling Siki, whose turbulent career in Paris earned him a police record as long as his string of ring knockouts, has run afoul of American law for the first time since coming to this country in quest of pugilistic hanors. The Senegalese battler. was . ar- ralgned yesterday before a.maglistrate on a charge of giving boxing exhibl- tions at a theater' in Washington Heights without a pérmit. He' was released In $256 bail for a hearing toda: However, Downing Cornhuskers May Be More of Task Than Can Be Accomplished—Most of Schools Have Formidable Squads. . BY LAWRENCE PERRY. OOT BALL elevens of the Missouri valley conference began prac- tice the first of the week for a enlivening. The usual sldgan, season that promises to be unusually “Beat Nebraska,” is heard through- out the land, and-the various coaches of the valley have this as their highest aim. Yet it is not at all certain that measure of the Cornhuskers, not on any conference eleven will take the ly because few letter men have been lost from the strong 1923 outfit, but because material coming up from last Kear‘s freshman squad 1s exceptionally promising. Again Fred Dawson as established a definite system at Lincoln, and. the school of, foot ball goes on from year to year building in accordance with that scheme. The great feat of Nebraska last seawon was the defeat of Notré Dame, and the one blot upon her escutcheon wi a bedting by Syracuse—a game which_the writer was -privileged to see. Dawson and his men learned a lot through that unexpected beating and mistakes then made are not Jikely to _be repeated. Potsy ‘Clark reports a great aggre- ation of xgluytrl at the University of an: ot only will the Lawrence institution have most of her 1922 reg- ulars, but new material is of fine quality. Any team uppn the Kansas schedule would do well to take the Jayhawkers seriously. Gwinn Henry, a coaching transfer from Emporia in the Kansas confer- ence, has a reputation to win in his b at the University of Missouri. available some seven or eight letter men from the 1922 team and a lot of qualified materisl from the sophomore class, A great deal of confidence is felt in Henry's ability to turn out.a rasping team. Charley Bachman, the old Notre Dame player, is pleased with his Kansas Aggles material and says he expects, or at least hopes, to have a bell ringer eleven this séason. At How Foot Ball Is Played By SOL METZGEI A\'Y player who can catch a foot ball like he would a base balil would have to have hands to match a No. 15 shoe. . A foot ball is too large, too full of rebounding quali- ties, to be trapped that way. For like reasons, it should not be al- lowed to strike the shoulder or THE QUESTION, Is a'foot ball caught like a base ball? chest or thighs, nor may the hands be held out rigidly to receive it. Two methods are used to catch punts. Oné i ing the ball to raise his hands well above his head witlf palms underneath and fingers extended. His elbows should be sligh(l( bent. Keep the arms paralle ing rigid about his position. 1 and close together. Then, if the ball is slightly misjudged, it may still be caught by the basket thus formed. Receive the ball in ‘the hands and begin to draw them toward your stomach just before you catch ft to break the force of the impact. Keep drawing your hands -into your stomach, slowly checking theéir speed. Also, be sure to let your body givi slightly at the knees and hips, thus bringing it into a gquatting position. Be sure to keep the legs together. The result is the ball just naturally settles into a basket formed by your arms, hands, stomach and le; It is securely trapped and you will not fumble it if tackled hard. Certaln experienced players take the ball against the chest by trapping it there with their hands. The Car- lisle Indans were fine at ths stunt when they played, but it is a risky move for those not of long experi- ence, and few boys have large enough hands to retain the ball when so caught. Good backs never attempt to shift the ball uAder their arms in order to run with it until they have made certain of the catch and know they will not ba tackled during this move- ment. Certain stars have gerfected & scheme of catching punts by _sstting thomselves some flve 1arée back of wire the ball is to drop umed it is almost down. They rush forward and take it on the run. This is the best way of all to catch punts,-for it draws the opposing tacklers farther down the field than the ball falls and thus makes it quite easy for the All Solid Leather Ce struction -v'-A New Standard - of Value at In High and Low Shoes Built from sole up with ‘hy-grade thought and work behind them— Quality First—With Syle Leadership - FAMILY SHOE STORE " Joseph- Strasburger Co., Inc. 310312 Seventh St. N.W. catcher to get off for a good return run of a punt. £ Always count that back sound who makes sure of the catch. A fumble is most disastrous. Helsman, the former Georgia Tech coach, now W. & J., used- to téll his players “It were better to dle as a baby than to fumble a punt.” (Copyright, 1923.) BANNOCKBURN TO HOLD GOLF TOURNEY OCT. 3-6 Bannockburn Golf Club's invitation tournaments, - discontinued after the 1919 event, are to be revived this fail. The club 15 to hold a tourney October 3-6 on the Cabin John links, open fo members of clubs affillated with -the Middle Atlantic Golf Asseciation” in addition to specially invited competi- tors. The first two. davs will be given over to qualifying rounds. Four six- teens are to be selected-for the match rounds to follow. John K. Harrls, 1801=K street, chairman of the committee arranging the fournament. for the back receiv- | i There is noth- | Oklahoma Benny Owen has a likely squad, but no one associated with this university is making any claims. Drake will present a backfield com- parable to the 1922 constellation. In addition, a strong nucleus of regulars is back. The Des Moines team did not meet Nebraska last year, but made a clean sweep of all other con- ference opponents. 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