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eat Corporations Are Trying to Solve the Wage Problem, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28,1919 ~- | TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 1919 Lakewood, O., Company Parents Can Gauge “a Shares Profits With =| - Children’s Intelligence Wit x Highly Paid Employees Sharing Profits Spurs*-Workers to Maximum Production Common-Sense Questions Spray PROF. EDWARD L. THORNDIKE’S HYPOTHESIS Charles F. Lang’s Plan: Employers Invest Capital— Workingmen Put in Their Time, Turn Out the Product—Gives Them Fair Division of Prefits—for the Present Mr. Lang Fixes Per- centage of Profits to Be Shared Until Such ~ Time as Plan Is Fully Developed. Only Two Stockholders in One of Lang’s Plants ! Are Not Employees—Majority of Employees + Have Invested Their Share of Profits in Stock of Company—Production Has Increased Since Men Have Been Taken Into Partnership. The Evening World to-day prints the third article of a scries dcal- ” dng with Profit Sharing and Co-operative Plans of big companies of the country which are working on the problem of industrial unrest. The articles are written by Martin Green a staf! correspondent of The " Evening World, after a thorough investigation. The experiments are ad wholly different in scope and application and should prove of interest to all employers and employees. By Martin Green y (Special Staff Correspondent of The Evening World.) I} Copyright, 1919, by The Press Publishing Co. (The New York Hvening World.) LEVELAND, O., Oct. 28.—There is @ man in Cleveland who belleves « that the time has come to make a pronounced revision in the time honored principle of partnership in busin His name is Charles F. Lang and he is President of the Lakewood Engineering Company, a I versatile institution, with three plants in as many cities, employing al- CAPITAL AND LABOR WORK TOGETHER ~ AS PARTNERS -~ EACH OWNING STOCK Mr. Lang contends “that Cap- ital has been running the whole damned she-bang and giving labor only what it was compelled | The “Three R’s”’ Not Sufficient Training for Chil to give for 80 long that even the dren of 10 to 16 Years—Many Children With E: most hide-bound Capitalist is now cellent School Records, but Are Utterly Lacki Pcrie yer erure cow Sus OF. oe in Knowledge of Everyday Questions of Life. industrial wilderness of strike: decreased production and dis- By Fay Stevenson Copyright, 1919, by The Press Publishing Co. (The New York Evening World.) | satisfaction.” H”*: does your child between the ages of ten and sixteen measure EMPLOYER \ mentally to the average child? A few days ago Prof. Edward L. Thorndike of Columbia U versity gave me a number of intelligence tests for child between three and nine which were printed on th page. Now he has a test which measures the child fro! ten to sixteen. Dr. Thorndike has long been known by his ri searches and writ- ings in educational) 11. Chalk, man, bag, book, sist ology. His | Word after’ man. paycl . 12. Mother, chair, think, dest, 1: work during the| Word after think. war as Chairman| 13. Run, dark, hard, pen, flower, of the Committee | V7ta te sleep, sick, bri on Classification of | word after shocs i Personnel in the army and since then| 15. Light, past, bed, dog, mati a8 author of tests of intelligence used | Cot. bes bahia KY shi 5 ull, plow, G as & part of the system of entrance | dress, Word after sky. to Columbia College and as a mem-| 17. Ring, foot, jump, snow, ber of the National Research Coun- | Child. Word after ring. 18. Point, noise, cook, river, de MONEE re RoMaue sueaan Sobre}: T together about 1,000 men and office force women. ‘The firm specializes in cil's Committee on Tests adds & s70-|iong Word after noon, : cial interest to his discussion of in-/ 19. Pencil, quick. f hi i transportation equipment for contractors and builders. tellect and its measurements. store. Word ait’ opal in, 4 ; Mr. Lang is a busy individual. I ran him down in the Old Colony Club ie as gaia ras AK Ganley Ty Graka deine ene sik, as —« dusiness men’s organization with branches in all the big American 4 ry tree, warm. Word after woman, :. the child in the ‘three R's’ is not! ‘The second question ia to mak 3 cities and one in London, the Cleveland branch of which is located in the enough,” Dr, Thorndike told me yes- | logieal selection from ten ‘questio “ Hotel Cleveland. As I entered the club I heard cheers and handclapping in terday afternoon, “What we want cr jAvestion has a list of word , @ room down the hall from the lounging room. EPUCATING LABOR ow T to do now 1s to measure him up of | ‘inderscore tivo wank, pag ilar: ’ “What is going on,” I asked the or met personally a number of manu-|why, because by slow but sure edu- BUSES DETAILS. AT common sense questions to see tf ho) the first object is never without, facturers who have heard of my clerk, “a political convention?” BOSS IS A PARTNER. “No,” was the reply. “The sales- men of the Lakewood Manufacturing V'll say that the time has come when the workmen have to get a division of the profits if indus- try is to survive in this country. MR. LANG FIXES PERCENTAGE scheme of taking my workingmen in- to partnership and sharing profits with them and I must say that I was unable to get my principles across in 4 majority of instances. ‘The average cational methods we have put them in @ position where they know the business from the inside out, PROCESS OF EDUCATING EM- PLOYEES WAS SLOW. knows the common, everyday ques- tions of life which he ought to know for his age. Sometimes a child might have a very good record in his school studies and still be utterly lacking or point being that the first object ‘m have all the other things on the 1i but must have two among the 1 to be up to normal condition: 1. CAT—Fur, house, milk, claws. 2, TREE—Apples, branches, acorn & Company are holding a meeting in| OF pROFITS TO BE SHARED. | manttnotires feelin 5 wg that he ought| “Because they have been kept in there and they are Ustening toanaed-|° «ty men are all in partnership|te do something to head off the labor| ignorance of the inside wordings of far behind the standard in these | "y's, lowers. F 3, SPELLING—Book, writing, pe * dress by Mr. Lang, their boss and|with me. They share in the profits| unrest, would rather give the men manufacturing industry workmen questions, Perhaps the best way to| cil, words, margin, letters. site © partner. He certainly does whoop |0f the business. Up to this Ume I|something than undertake to divide | have been disposed to look upon ua. measure him up is to put him| 4 SCHOOL—Blackboard, teache ae mi have fixed the percentage of profits| with them something they are en- | chinery and tools aa things ‘just through a written test known as the “240%, pen, bell, schoolhouse, pupil 2 ‘em up: i to be shared and the method of dis-| titled to. Workingmen don't, want) growed,’ like Topsy in “Uncle Tom's Nita! ‘9 5. STORE—Counter, clerk, cashy And ho certainly did whoop ‘em up- /tribution, because both the workmen| charity! They don't want paternal- | Cabin,” It took us some time to ex-) Pressey-Pressey system, register, advertisements, — bo: at very tow minutes the corridor re-|and myself are traversing unex-|ism. They won't have either, What/ plain to our workmen, after they be- “In some cases,” admitted Dr. | stove, Thorndike, “I think the test a little 6 BUILDING — Windows, woo aiffioult for the child of ten or eleven | Chimneys Wall, shingle, roof, stal to grasp, but I/have no doubt that) 7, DEBT—Mortgage, oredite thero aro a number of bright boys|™oney, lawyer, collector, debt tes. eal hospital, nurse, disc6mfor ness probability be made up Jater. ‘We have no set percentage by apital which we figure our distribution of profits, We base it on the services of the individual workmen. “We have @ number of id we are holding in abeyance b the men are not ready to ite them, salesmen, If eald salesmen carry |g that we may not run into condi-| profit arising trom the salo of the $25,000 and which, after careful ex- into the field the enthusiasm they/tions which will spoll our expe-| product they turn out. periments, we found would not suit En land Pa S 1 000 000 manifested over the advice of their ig of labor and working-|MANUFACTURERS 8KEP.|°Ur-punpose. But we had to get that g Y ’ t} [the questions as fast as they can weakness, a witness the deadiock in the industrial turer. “Take my workmen into parte ASIDE FOR EXPANSION, | Write, “The child from. twelve to ¢i%- | doctor. Mnown United States of America. .°/ Vi Otrence in Washington—inhablted nership with me? Why the first] “Now we are going to set aside a y 7 ve before | ing, ve bedience, A i Re MRIS OE Brest Comin ae che mas may have to think twice ig, lover, obedience, imitation, he! Mr. Lang came out eventually and » with another, while the| bang and giving labor only what it| + md they take the test. Why not play | tuine vorship, freed 06 Sho rendens of The Evening ene paved rhe part of the Innocent | was’ compelled to give. for. so tong | WOfkMed there has not been a pro- chee tid dial 4 five minutes and only the answer written, Thei ubject {and bas put bis ideas, when OLD ANTAGRMISIG ST Any decreased production and dissatisfac- The first question has twenty num-|aro twenty questions in all, ‘The ry fow om workable, <| VAIL B Oe, in rue- i a his workmen and they were as enthu- | “grew out of conditions which made trying Anybody but a True-Blue American not write until told to do so. then twice as much each day of th arguerite Vlooers By Margu M Marshall line the word that came after hat, Question No, 4 is to test the child sounded with the applause of the plored industrial territory and we/they do want, although most of thom | came interested in the profits, why we ~ . machine and we wi “| bankruptey, Ing Company-ia duo to seater a lot] mon havo in the past, and do toa TICAL OF PLAN. \iadkpipi ct) weal ghd Madam To For er { rican and girls of that age who can answer | P4! . ’ teen should have no difficulty at all. . GOVERN™M: T — Capitol, cot MR. LANG EXPLAINS PARTNER: | hostile camps. Bach group looked) think they would want to run the| certain percentage of our 1919 But” and here Dr. Thorndike sup-| sul, navy, freedom, king, Senate, ca! EVENIN ith suspicion on the other and there! whole damned shebang.” t 4 ‘ Pp gypt )@| pressea a smile, “it might just be|non, tax, SHIP PLAN TO EVENING M4 still considerable suspicion existing) “Well, I told him that capital has for the expansion of the business in Ss ran 0 Ss rone school, electing one member of the; Question No, 3 is given entire World through me about his ideas of | Pystander, who always gets tho worst | that even tho most hide-bound capital-| heag Ponyag® suey know thata busl-|Pearl Ola Jane Humphrey, Who Sues the} tamiy occur inomucations and time | euemtion NO, arithmetic, whid revolutionizing the partnership idea. | "11 ist is now looking for some road out of . Estate of He India: Prince Husband the test which is to take but forty- ie ian rinc usband, bers with twenty empty dines. A list|/ are all based on the same lini fect in his factories. Incidentally, IL R. “The solution is for f words is read while those taking the followi le: may eay that before meeting Mr. LABO and labor to work in double ha theite Tee e Meath a ae ete wean iat Convright, 1919, by The Prose Pubiidaing Oo, (The New Yor Brening World.) 2. Mouse, chair, Write the word|brain In regard to opposites. A li HE AMERICAN PRINCESS OLA HASSAN has just received $1,000,-{that came after mouse. of twenty Words is given and. th have to scout ahead for safe paths, /do not know it, is a fair share of the| had to discard a machine which cost CKNESS — Lameness, of finished product around the well|considemble extent in the present—as/ “what!” remarked one manufac-| PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS SET 1 % shat some of the daddies and mam- 10. RIENDSHIP—Adoration, 11 WORLD READERS. here and there, and occasionally gavo| been running the whole damned she-| tye" p,Aithough this will cut down : are to be worked out in the he: He has given much thought to the the industrial wilderness of strikes, | purinkas® of profits pow will, in all out in Warns Her Country-Women Against Mar- Lang I had talked with a number of | “Labor unions,” said Mr. Lang, the test listen very carefully but do| spent 5 cents a day for a week an 000 from the British Government as a recognition of her claims| 3. Cat, baby, cow. Write word|child is to write the word meani 1, This 1s the first list of words: | next week, how much would yo’ Hat, boy. Write on the first empty | spend in all? t}it imperative for laboring men to Hlasth, over thelr jobe in the lant at|it, Imperntive, for Meer, ‘protoe: | Prolite "of fine salesmen were over the talk they lis-|tion. If there was no need for labor cen lantatt tened to at the Hotel Cleveland, More | unions there would be no labor unions, Mr, Lang's plant in Cleveland ts about the workmen later, * * * “Now this can't be dono ina minute. | certainly a model of industry and “Under partnership principles | You can’t tench an old dog new tricks, | contentment, Only two stockholders In our process mployees in our je inaugurated a rs which are at ; ¥ 0 ake hi rgot » ef after baby. just {ts direct opposite, as for of the old days, and I, might ea bak yon, oan make jin. formes — nent ornien rm Dek emclayene oF Rronent eryanised wh Soe fern against the estate of her husband, Prince Ibrahim Hassan, cousin of 4. Paper, watch, irk. Write word stance rich—poor, or fein Lang. “Your for incksnes come te rapid upset in the relations between | of ihe ‘workers own stock in ihe | given by the men themesives. after paper. ere are the words: Rad, the deposed Khedive at Egypt. tle, black, high, light, i v Behind that terse news item lies one of the most] qf, Hore stong window. Word) tle, biads high. light, day, caish, te thrilling and romantic stories of real life to be read by! 6, Ground, milk, desk, hand. Word country, past, motion, if, this generation. The daughter of a California furniture | after mili. tion No. b is probably the me manufacturer, then a mildly refulgent American stage capital and labor, because both sides|company, although there is nothing| "Since taking our men into part- me and show me sat Bey he need education, but 1 do look for 4 in the agreement between the corpor- |nership we have increased produc- loin the mar- | Gradual broadening of understanding | ation and ite employees by which|tion considerably and the increase as men with new ideas project these] profit sharing is maintained which |bolds, The ¢rouble is in most plants ideas into the business world and] compels employees to buy stock. The|that, while the machines are gen- nufacture | show their fellows that the old order|employees can do what they pleaso|erally operated to capacity, the men Q 7. Lamp, kitten, tree, girl. Word | difficult in the test. It ig to test lo; after kitten, cal memory. A clipping is read lf. eon jor the mai twenty words with one or more from superintendents and fore- |it in the stock of the concern, but all| We asked the man operating it what ters omitted which the child Word after red. E : Word|the children while they listen, wi H ut of date. with their share of the profits, running them are not operated to star, then the bride of an Egyptian prince with an ex. 8. Ruler, clock, table, box, r 5 = Tee comers tee net tus |" “sManufacturers don’t’: und Here is the existing condition.| capacity, Recently we had a rush cellent chance of one day ascending Cleopatra's throne, | “fter_ table. Parcs Gowen. HAM) sah arbats twist * ee oe retosey Te theta tno etand. their. workmen _ bee: Scores of employees have saved up| order on which we desired to estab- é eee ae By A 9. ‘Street, glags, cloud, shelf, Word] ished: then they are given twent ‘ profit we soit on a 50-60 basis or they are not in touch with them. [every cent of their share in the|lish a record. A vital machine had in a few short weeks the abused, neglected wife suing | arter glass. questions all a out the subjec 4 wtlo ‘any other percentage basis we Manufacturers get their reports | profits with the intention of investing | been turning out five parts an hour, for a separation and fervently warning her country-| 10. Spoon, print, red, milk, green.) Questio! o» ui a list women against 7 Pome trerlo oon TOR ma *y put in my money and you put In your time, We employ labor and pay labor the market rate and divide the profits. That h ing on since the foundation of the "manufacturing industry. “Now, why can't you and | take our workmen into partnership? They put in their time too, They turn out the product. Why can't the workman have a divis- ion of the profits, just as capital takes a division of the profits? men, and superintendents and |the stock is held at present and the|he thought he could do if we gave foremen make the kind of reports they think the boss wants them to make. That is, superintendents and foremen in plants conducted un things. stand the boss because they are deliberately kept in ignorance of the conditions in their industry outside the horizon of their own workbench, “T have been tn correspondence with Iakewood Engineering Company is not quite ready for expansion, When the time arrives for expansion none of the stock will be offered outside the plants, The men will gobble up the new issue, “Outside stockholders,” said Mr, Tang, “look for nothing but divi- dends, Inside stockholders look for dividends, too, but if the time comes when we cannot pay dividends the stockholders in the plant will know Your Sweetheart’s Characteristics Revealed by Her Handwriting Copyright, 1919, by The Press Publishing Co, (The New York Evening World.) To-day the Character Analysis Editor answers by the sincere young men concerning the characteristics exhibited in the Ask four specific questions and send a specimen of your sweetheart’s handwriting to The Evening World. in your first name, middle and last initials, handwriting of their sweethearts. e B. 8 K. Elizabeth—Sincere and loyal, Affectionate. Good character. Somewhat secretive. Will make neat housekeeper, but extravagant, P. ¥.—To be able to do anything or acquire anything you will have to de- velop force and become less intro- spective, You Jack initiative, BURR, D.—Level head. Absolutely frank and honest, Versatile, Intel- ligent saver, but not mean, Calm judgment, A go00d person to tie to. Affectionate but not demonstrative, 8. E-—Lively, somewhat secre- tive. Critical. Careful spender, Sen. sitive. Not always truthful, Pleas. tactful, Fatrly good tempered. cing, neat, good tem- us, Geems © questions to want to get as much out of life as) Possible without doing mucl lavish with money. Cannot keep a cent. Make an extravagant, careless housekeeper, Pleasant but irrespon- sible. Is mildly fond of people, but head controls heart . G. W.—Not conceited, Not de- celtful, Takes fanc Very affec- tlonate and has qualities that should | | endure after ‘ E. A. and generous hearted, has material for fine woman, OWEN, E. B., Camp Merritt—There 1a nothing really wrong with this girl. Bho is impulsive and pleasure loving. Truo, sho 19 somewhat Mght and rather weak, and whether she would settle down, time would tell, Believe children orence, as would make @ | Some sure of herself, but in spite of spending propensities | she is fond of them and animals. But she has no force, Is quite sensitive, but does not bear malice. Is ex- travagant, Has not sufficient depth to love much, W. A, G.—Is marrying kind. Some- at uncertain. Not always truth. Too meagre specimen to tell more. L. J. D.—Should make a good wife, but should learn proper use of money. Is not selfish. Is sincere, Sensitive, given to depression, Not very forceful, but faithful E. F. L.—Not fickle, but naturally popula: Truthful, but diplomatic, at of @ spendthrift and a bit careless, yet very fond of everything refined. Once married would be con- tented and adaptable. Very kind- hearted. C. B. D.—Somewhat frivolous and extravagant, Though kindly and jolly she is not susceptible. Believe that she is capable of loving one person when she finds him, Js not always candid. Must take life more seriously if ambitions are to be realized. 1s generous, not terribly self-sacrific- ing. A. B.—Character yet unformed, but shows tendencies to fidelity, Spends money wisely, being neither spend- rina semen ernommein” © Nees thrift nor miser, Favorable for mat- timony, ‘ pany him certain improved tools and he said he believed he could turn out six parts an hour, We offered him a bonus on all ‘he turned out over six an hour and he proceeded to run out ten an hour, speeding up his own and the machine's capacity 100 per cent.” VORKMEN LOOKED FOR “JOKER” WHEN PLAN WAS BROACHED. The workmen in the Lakewood plant say they have always ‘been treated well, and that when the profit- sharing plan was broached to them they were surprised because they knew they were getting top wages. “At first,” said one of the men, “w. thought there was a joker in it some- where, It wasn't until we under- stood that the company wasn't giving us anything we didn’t earn that we woke up to the proposition. Now we see that the more money the com- pany makes the more we will make, and, take it from me, we are after that little old profit.” “I never thought I'd live to see the aay" an elderly work- » “ho mi have more than our pay envelope, I found we were going to get wi 1 tho we ought to have, | Imost dropped dead. Look at Andrew Carnegie and all the money he gave away. If he got it honestly he didn’t treat his men right. My idea 1g that if the bosses give the men_a fair shake they won't have so much money to give away and there won't be any need for their money. There are no strings in the stock held by the workmen in the Lake- wood plant. ‘They can sell it if they want to, When a man quits, which is not a frewent occurrence, he sells his qtock to his fellow workmen or to Mr. Lange. The workmen have been gobbling up all this part of stock that has reached the market for months past } . marrying anybody American—that is the story of the beautiful, red-haired young recipient of a millton, which should help her to forget past unhappiness and begin American-Egyptian princess was named Pearl Ola Jane Humphrey and lived in California, ambitious young on the stage at an early age. cisco, and worked her way to New York, where she appeared Theodore Kramer melodrama called ‘The Fatal Wedding.” title which cast a hoodoo over the beautiful Western actress? wedding, off the boards, was “fatal"— for it ended in divorce of her leading man, Edwin Mordaunt. Nor was her second union any happier, It took place in London, in 1911, just after the coronation of King George, After a triumphal tour of Australia Ola Humphrey stage name—won London with her opulent beauty and her wonderfui She had been there less than a year when she became the wife of Prince Hassan, after a court- ship of two months, ‘cousin of the Khedive of Eeypt, ex- ceedingly rich, near the line of suc- cession and, apparently, cultivated, charming Oriental type. ‘They went to Paris for their honey- It was scarcely six months before the poor Princes: to London alone—ditillusioned, heart- broken, This is her story as she told Was it the He was a first had returned it at that time to The Evening World correspondent: “I married Prince Hassan against the advice of all my friends, in the face of telegrams from my mother imploring me not to do so, But I would not listen, I was fascinated by him. He was so strong, so dom- inating, and before we were married he was always so kind, so consider- ate, He would wait sometimes hours for me if I was visiting my dress- maker's, “Very soon after our marriage his manner changed, It became com- manding dogmatic, It soon became clear to me that I-was only a thing apart from the rest of his life—a thing to be enjoyed when he had nothing more important of which 4 think, “He expected me to be at his call. He told me on many occasions that his commands were to be obeyed, that I must study his tastes and entirely subordinate myself to his will, He did not wish me to have any friends of my own. I was not to go out with- out his permission, or even eat my meals where I pleased, “Although himself fairly fond of display, he never bought me either clothes or jewelry. He gave me n money, i asked him on several cca sions if he would not buy me some pretty dress or some jewelry which { had seen, but he always refused, saying, ‘Why should 1? What do you want with more clothes or jewelzy? Have you not enough? “When displeased he became very violent. The incident which led up to my leaving him was quite unexpected, He had told me one evening to wait downstairs for hi After T had waited some time J got tired and went upstairs to our bedroom. (Presently he came in—furious. Hoe shouted: ‘How dare you come upstairs when T told you to wait downstairs?’ “Before 1 could find my voice he ever since we were married that I intended to break your spirit, and now I intend to teach you your lesson.’ “So saying, he struck me a most violent blow, knocking me to the floor, It was terrible, This exper- fence made me very ill. I had to be attended by two doctors and two nurses, But he never made any in- quiry or sent any message to me, Eleven days later I left Paris and me to London, I have communi- cated with him since, but he has made no reply, If he had only sent some word to mo while I lay ill af- ter his blow, I could have found it in my heart to forgive him, But he was Oriental, Don't you think an American, or any European, if he lost his temper and struck his wife would show afterward that he was sorry for it; that he would go over to her or send to her and ask her to forgive him? “You ask what is my advice to any American girl who is thinking of marrying an Oriental?” summed up the Princess. “It is emphatically, ‘DON'T No less a dignitary than the de- posed Khedive of Egypt tried to play he part of peacemaker between his cousin and the cousin's lovely, if re- bellious, American wife, No use! The Princess held out for an Amer- ican bill of rights—a guarantee that she might act, speak and think as she pleased without abuse or confinement on the part of her Oriental spous Unable to obtain what she considered a proper allowance, she ret this country to visit her mothe She brought an action Prince Ibrahim in 1913, but settlement was delayed because of the war. The Prince's estate fell into the hands of the British Government when tho Khedive fled from Egypt. The Gov- ernment’s award to the American shouted at me again; I have told you | Princess has just been announced, ' i and a cross supply to make the word completi Here are the words: 11, a.t.mo.t 12 pa.ri.t.sm org.nt.a.im ¢.lun . t.a.bor . fend. 10. e.len. 20. s.met.t Question No. 7 is a moral cli cation, The child is given a list words. The figure must be put undi every word meaning something th must not do in the school room, figure 2 must be put under all wo which mean being good to other p and the figure 8 under all word which suggest something that wi hurt the child Question No, 8 is a matter of 4 secting sentences, Twenty are giv in a very much muddled up manm with verbs and adjectives very m misplaced. The child is to put th together so that they make comma sense, Question No, 9 concerns practies information. A group of words given, such as water, wood, co and, iron, and the child told to pu a line under the thing that is heavi and a cross after the thing that lightest. In another group are th words bill, coins, check, draft, stam and the str 0 put a} under the sufest way to send mone} t safe way. Question } 10, last in est, is a matter of analogies, onsists of a list of words with word in the group missing. In first group are the words woman-girl man and a blank to fill, The. child to fill in the word which wout correspond to man as girl does woman, Others in the group are kit: at: puppy and a blank, traim boat and a blank. And remember e!! this is to be 4 in forty-five minutes at most!