The New York Herald Newspaper, November 15, 1876, Page 4

mind. We are not yet in full possession of all the facts Telating to the elections inthe States still in doubt, and it would be idle to come to any conclusion as to | the responsibility of either party while theso facts | have not been clearly ascertained. It is to be | hoped that the gentlemen of distinction, repre- Senting both parties, who have gone to the Southern States, will Dave ample opportunuy of a thorough investigation. I do wot think that apy persons would, im the present condition of the pubiie esire ‘to place apy obstacle iu the way of such KatioN imto the conduct of apy olliciat who $0 perform in connection with the electic 4s far as Lean judge, the people of all parties will be | quite content at any result irom a taireiection, On the other hand, I believe they will regard an election | Which is tainted by any reasoualle suspicion of (raud ou the part of either party as treason to the Republic and As denying the most important rights of the people in the expression of thar sovereign will. I think | am Tight, im saying that respectable men of all parties are most earnest in hoping that no such disaster will occur, fhe gentlemen of whom I have spoken, who have gone to make this investigation, are, so far as I can stand, Yesiod with no legal authority; but, at me tine, their mission will, I have no doubt, be ted, ASto the various legal questions which arisen or may arise, in connection wita the elec- | | Hons in the South, now and afier Congress meets, I | bave not made any special examination and prefer not | you any Opinion that would necessarily be | hasty aud off band. The field of examination on such | A supject is large, and no lawyer sbould desire to give | on So important a question anything but a deliverate, | well considered opinion. Indeed, to arrive at any cor- | rect Opimion it 8 essential thatall the facts be first as- | 4, and on that subject 1 expect we shall soon | be enlightened by the report of the gentlemen who | bave gone South for the purpose of ascertaining them,” “What do you think would happen, supposing im- portant iacts are reported upon dilferentiy by the representative gentlemen of both the parties ?? “We must uot anticipate so unfortunate a result, but i! it happens we have no experience to guide us, and must depend upon such measures as the constitu- tion aud law provide. Congress, wien it meets, will, | bo doubt, take such steps as will be found wise and necessary for the assertion of the people’s rights.) We ppe tor the best. Inthe meantime every man und to cultivate calm good temper and forbear- ali the newspapers will, 1 trust, help in encouraging such @ condition of the public ming, I don’t believe men are likely to be jess resolute in pro- | tecting their rights because they bave been carviul, | tuutious and deliberate in the consideration of their | jes on the subject, On the whole, I believe we | rhail get over this difficulty without any serious jar to the constitution, oF any serious blow against the rights ot tho people.” “Do you think that the democratic gentlemen who have gone to investigate the affairs of the South wiil nied the means of examination?” Ido not think so. 1 do not think that, in the present temper of the public mind, any party would dure to assume the responsibility of concealing any important matiers. ‘The truth must come out, I have ho idea how long the investigation will take, We may not bear definitely, perhaps, for a week, Every day’s dolay 18 now a positive mischief to the trade of this cily, which 1s, practically, ata standstill.” Yhat do yoa think of Senator Bayard’s aetion in | Telusing to becomo ® member of the committee of in- ‘vestigation Yr?’ “I have no doubt Senator Bayard has good reasons for all he does and for his refusal to do anything he Tofuses todo, As I understand he reluses to take a prominent part in the preliminary examination of mat- ters of-tact which he thinks may come before him in a quasi juaicial capacity, I don’t think any one can quarrel with his views of his own duties in that re- gard. Senator Bayard 1s a man of high and well de- forved distinction, o! stainless character, ackucwledged ability and growing reputation, I should say Senator Bayard was entitled to be regarded as a sincere and highminaed patriot and statesman, MR. WILLIAM A. BEACH. 4 Henan roporter paid a visit yesterday afternoon | to the offices of Mr. William A. Beach in the Kquitable Building, and, after waiting a few moments, met that rentieman on his return fréim court, Mr. Beach was tull of legal business when the reporter commenced to talk on the Presidential question, but, with his accus- jomed courtesy, be gave up his business and talked freely on the political question, Mr. Beach said, in his opinion, Hayes would certainly be the next Prosi- dent. It is pot nowa question of who obtains the most votes, but who‘counts the most, and as there is a re- publican majority on the Rejurning Board there can be very little doubt about the result. When | first read General Grant's proclamation aud Governor Kel- Jogg’s letter of invitation | felt iefied that they had rything arranged satisiactorily. The counting in ull probability, been done already before the returns wero made by the local authorities, so Mat the work of the colored members of the Returning Board will be simplified. There will probably be some exciting Scenes before the next President takes his seat, but they cannot amount to much, as the pewer is all one-sided. For instance, if in counting the vote an objection should he raised to the vote of Louisiana, an issue might be raised between the democratic Congress and the republican Senate ; bat it can only have an evding wyh # republican President and Tepubll an administration in pow 1 appears a pity that the question nas not been brought before the United States courts before thi that State rights and other important matters which the present laws define rather loosely could be ar- ranged more satisfactorily. There appears to be very little doubt that the repub- fican party bave made up their minds to put Hayes in the White House at all bazards. As fur as the correct vote is considered, there is not much doubt about Til- den’s election, as he bas in all probability carried all three States; but there js not much chance of his being given any one of the tifroe. AN EX-DEMOCRATIC OFFICIAL. During the afternoon a Henan reporter met a well known lawyer, an ex-democratic official, who very kindly gave his viows on the question. He said;—“L look on the question in the light of a political problem, When you are given @ republican administration, a republican President, and a republican returning board tm the three disputed States, it appears very plain that power will give the next Presidency to a republi. can. The slate appears to be all made up, especially when Governor Kellogg was so kind as to invite some of the leading men of the country to be present at the tounting ‘of the vote, We have had instances of tne vote of a State being thrown out—for instance, in ISz1, in Monroe’s el@asion, Missouri was thrown out; and again in Buchanan's time, in 1857, Wisconsin was thrown out, as owing to a show storm the glectoral college did not meet cn the day appointed by faw, In 1865 Georgia was not counted for McClellan but we have never had the question come up when {ts settle- ment decidud the Presidency of the couutry. It looks us if Sir Robert Peel's prophecy about all the young republics of South America that they would sce the day when they would decide some ot their most im- portant iasres at the pout of the bayonet Looking at the matter as it stands now, when the question somes belore Congress the voie of Louisiana and South Carolina will probably be refused on the grounds of fraud, the House having in the meantime sent fown a railroad committee to ferret out evidence in the matter. When the houses meet in joint conven- on aud any question arises the bodies separate for discursion. The result of the discussion n the House will in all probability be to exciude the vote of both the above States, and then the Senate may refuse to come in. The republican members of the House may then go into the § giving a nd the President of the Se: ution, 18 the deciar- will prociafm Hayes and Wheeler eivcted, and Mr. | milton Fish, the Secretary of State, will give | them a certificate to that effect. Again, the 4th of Mareh falls this year on a Sunday, and So President | Grant will be in office on the morning of the Sth, | when the new President is to be sworn in, There | will then be no House to protest, as by | the constiution the House dissolves’ at mid- | night on the 4th of March. Thié election is virtually reduced to @ question of power, and power will win. Ag Jar as the vote is concerned It ap- pears us if the fight will reaily be made in Louisiana, and thus, looking at sue from an abolition view, of Providence on Sixteen years ago the question of slavery government ‘rot the hands of the democratic party, and now as the cup of victory is touching their lips wo can see the two black members ot the Lonisiana Re- | | | | | | | | turning Board rising up and dashing it out of their | hands to the groand, if Hayes is elected in the face | of the present sitaation of affairs i can see no hope tor | } | | democracy, it must fall through.” OPINIONS OF EMINENT PENNSYLVANIANS ON THR POWERS AND DUTILS OF CONGRESS IN THE Marre. Puitapetraia, Nov. 14, 1874 In viow of tho probable complications resulting from the doubtful election returns in some of the Boutberno States the Henao correspondent this even- Ing sought the opinious of several eminent legal gen- Hlemen peculiarly fited to understand the possible and provable result of the impending conflict, ME, RANDALL'S VOEWS. Samuet J. Randall, it is is not ‘In town, to New Orleans, His views at present, both as a veteran parliamentarian and as @ man of all others most likely to be the next Speaker of the House oh Representatives, are doubly important, but he was not accessible, What he thinks ot tho crisis, howevor, is known to his political friends, Mr. Ran- dail is of the opinion that the presence of Northern gentlemen of both parties who goto New Orleans to preserve the purity of the ballot box will prevent any arbitrary partisan action by the Returning Board, not- Mauding it is composed exclusively of republicans, flo thinks the remedy, however, lies in Congress; that the twenty-second’ joint rule still goverus both es; that never, since his presence im Congress, ave the joint rules been re-cnacied at the beginning of The Hon. be regretted, to haviog gone any Cong but, om vhe coatrary, they have been con- Hidered as having continuous oxisience. The twe second joint raic Was adopted in 1865. At the ret session tho Senate Committee on Kules came to the House side avd met the House committee seek- ing to change his jomt rule by concur. rent xction, The Mouse committee took the ground that thore rules ax formea from 1790 down to the present time could only Le changed by concurront | be satiated with the decision of their representatives action, The committees separated witbout agreement. ‘The House again affirmed this position at the end of the session, when they sent to the & resolution suspending the sixteenth and seventeenth joint rules, which was passed by the House it opposition. {tis already, therefore, within the pro- Vinee of the House to reject any fraudulent, made up, hether from Florida or South Sepate, as im the in 1868 There is further constitutional reliet in the power of the House of Representatives whieh {t is not necessary now to discuss. ‘Ihe moral power of Mr. Tilden having over 800,000 majority on the popular vote will have great Weight with the American people. ‘Tbese are Mr. Ran- dail’s views direct from one of his intimate friends. A PROMINENT LAWYER'S PEARS. rst gentiewan | called ov was one of the moat The emineht members of the Philadelphia Bar, whose po- litical sympathies bear toward tho adniinistration party, although he is far too independent to be a hide- bound republican. He would not permit the public use of bis name in this connection, uufortunately, becau of urgent professional reasons. He shook bis bi thouzhtfuliy and said that be very much feared there will be trouble when the elegtorai returns are opened. Q. What would be the natuYe of the trouble? “Why, the democrats, who will be im the majority when the two houses of Congress meet in a joint body, may object to the opening and counting of the certificates from certain of the Southern States; but,” he con- tinued hastily, “there is no danger of anything more serious’ than a mere clamor, @ Violent protest—a war of words, perhaps It will be the duty of the President of the Senate to open what PUrport to be the official returns from these States, and all the objections i the world cannot prevent this, 1t will take determination and nerve on the part of the Sen it-will bea time for firmness and coolness, but,” slapping his band emphaticully on the table, ‘it will be done.” “Is there any reason to suppose that the democrats may demand the throwing out of the vote of any States?” the corresponden: asked. “I do not know what they will demand. Southern democrats are desperate’ men, but it would not make the slightest difference in the end whether thoy did or not. The duty of the Senate aud the House | regard as perfectly plain. The constitu- tion says that the returus shall be sent sealed to the President of the Senate, and thas be, in the presence of the Senate and the House, shall open the certificates andthe vote shall then be counted, This is impera- tive. The language is, ‘The votes shall be opened aud shall then be counted.’ Immediately is meant. Con- greas would have no right to begin to discuss Wether or not they would receive the vote of such and such a State, Those certificates that caine through the official channel the iaw and common sense pre- sume to be right. They cannot go back of the record. They are not the judges of the validity of the returns. It 1s precisely the same as in the case of a member of the House who is dejared elected from a certain dis- trict, If the returning officer makes the return in his favor the Governor of the State 1s bound to issue the commission, no matter what frauds he may believe (o have been practised. When the electoral votes are counted the Seuate and the House are only witnesses. They do not make the President. The people of the United States do this. All Congress has the right to do is to see that the returns from the Electoral Colleges are what they profess to be, formaliy correct. The elector for the tine being $s the highest officer in the government. The elector h: conterred on him of the most solemn and serious cha! acter, like the electors that voted for the German Em- peror, only they were hereditary princes of the Em- pire.” “Does not tho famous twenty-second joint rule per- mit each House to retire to decide upon’ which of the returns shall be received in case of a contest ?”” “Mr, Randall claims this rule to be still in force, on the ground that the House never vonsevted to the repeal, Mr. Randall is wrong. The rule expired by the refusal of the Senate to concur in it asthe last session, and Mr. Kandall gives away his own case when he makes such claim, ior 1% does not require the coneurrence of the two bodies to repeal it, 1t was not a law but only a rule fer conducting the business of Congress trom session to session, Moreover, the Senate is a body that never dies, but the House of Representatives docs, Ifa member of the House ts returned a second time he is sworn in again as a new member. Tho House that bas gone before is a dead body, and how can the new body be bound by the laws of the dead and gone House¥’? “Do you think the threatened complications at Washington will be prevented by the present visit of prominent Northern men to the South?” ‘Ido not, Far from being aremedy I think it may bring on a conflict there, Northern men have really no right there. Men of both partios have down South in hot haste and there they stand faciog each other and saying, ‘I have come to prevent your frauds.” There will be charges and countercharges. Do you think they are likely to do any good? The question has gone into a higher atmosphere, It 1s above popular intervention. 1f 1 were a Southern man, anda member of the Returning Board tn Louisiana, for instance, and any Yankee came peering into the ballots | was canvassing, 1 should order him kicked out of court. 1 do not blame the republicans for having sent men down there now, tho democrats having done 80 first, but the idea in the Orst place. was wrong.” What will be the result of this?” “I do not know; butof one thing you may be assured—if Hayes is elected, President Grant will furnish the troops to in- augurate him it it is necessary, COLONRL M’CLURE’S OPINION. Colonel A. K. MeClure, one of the most prominent liticlang and lawyers of.the State, better known of jute as the editor of the best newspaper in Philadelph: the Jimes, sald, “I believe that if Hayes is declares elected by {reudulent votes and manipulations in the South, that be will never be inaugurated, It isa grave thing to say, but 1 believe that if an attempt at such a fraud 1s attempted tn be no government in sia. 6ountry on the 4th of March next.’? The Colonel read meadespaich just received from Mr. Handy, one of the Times’ editors, win New Orieang, 1n Which the writer declared tbat Governor Kellogg had told him that “the republican electors were to be returned trom Louisiana, and that all hell could not stop Pickard trom beinge Governor,” Colonel McClure continued great taith in the people. I believe that if a republi- can majority 1s declared in Louisiana, and it 18 not bonest, there will be euch an address publishea by the people of that State as will carry convicuon to the North. I do not beheve that the people of this country wiilcommitany fraud in this matter, and feel saie in saying that the next President, of tho United States will not take his seat unless honestiy elected. Of course the House will 4end a committee to the South immediately alter the session begins. They will probably get back belore February, when the elec- toral votes are to be counted, and upon what they will report wiil, of course, depend the action. of the demo- crats at the time of the counting. It is impossible to tell now. The next Senate, too, after the 4th of Marcn, may be democratic. No,1 cannottell what Congress is likely to do. The question 1s a serious one,” SHAKESPR. THE SITUATION. Mr. James H. Shakespeare, a prominent’ young Jawyer in the democratic interest said “The consti- tution provides that the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the House of Represensatives and Senate, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the gre: ¢ Duim- ber of votes tor President sball be President It is elaimed by the republicans that this is the only law in existence under which the electoral vote for President is to be counte@ on the second Wednesday of February next. They claim that this article of the constitution confers upob ‘tbe President of the Senate the right to decide any questions that may arise as to the competency of anv ot the persons claiming to be elected to cast their vote for President, In view of the present complications, in case the governors of the three States—Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana—should certify the election otf tho Hayes electors, under the republican view “the President of the Senate would have the right to decide upon the fairness and legality of the elec- tions held in those States, and from his decision there woald be no app r this view the President ot the Senate is invested with a very high power, and a very dangerous one, without the express provisions of Jaw, because no one will clpim that such a power Is conferred upon him by the above article of the consti« tution many other way than by implication, Then the legal question arises, Can such a power be given by tm- plication? This question Congress may be called upon \o determine at their next session. We already have the views of the leading members of the House, showing that in all probability the House will insist, if such complications should arise, that the tweoty- second joint rule is still in existence and of the same binding force and efect that it had when {t was first passed by the concufrent action of the two houses, their opimon upon the ground that, it is a concurrent rule, it can only be abolished by the coneurrent action of the two houses, This is shown from the fact that it is not customary at the beginning of a new Congress to re-enact the joint rules; and if this twenty-second rule is still of Tull force and effet, then other and new complications will arise, If there should be any dis- puse as to the legality and fairness of the action of the revurning Qboards jn Florida and Loui under this twenty-second rule, the Senate or tho House of Rep- resentativer hate the right to object to the electoral vote of any Atate being counted. If the House ol | Representatites insist that tho twenty-second rule is Still m existence, and under that rule they object to the electoral vote of any State being counted, taen two very difficult questions arise, First, who has the right to decide whether the twenty-second rule isin existence or not? Second, who shall decide whether the electoral vote of the State objected to shail be counted? If the President of the Senate has not the right to decide these questions, who hi We aro of the opimon that all the que tions above suggested are to be — decided joint action of the Senate and House of iepre- sentatives, otherwise they are present for no purpose. It ie not reasonable to suppose that it was even In- tended by the constitution that the Senate and House should be more lookers-on without the power to act of or decide any questions that might arise in reference to the counting of te electoral ~vowe. Certainly the combined wisdom and intelligence of the Senate and House of Representatives i 4 power than any single man who might happen to bo President of the Senate, Then, too, the nation woul as expressed by the opinion of the Senate and House of Ropresentatives, while they would not be satiated with or disposed to acquiesce jn the opinion of any one man, though he be the President of the Senate, THE G IN THE CITY, FRE THE EXCITRMENT VERY MUCH ABATED--THE POOL BUYERS IN A FEVER HEAT—HOW LONG WILL THRY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEIR MONEY ? Jadging from the small amount of excitement which prevailed yesterday in the city concerning the three doubtful States, it w pretty certain that republicans and democrats alike haye become heartily sick of the tory of such | claims and counterclatms of victory that have been attracting public attention for so.manv days There ‘were about the bulletins all day what may be called crowds, but loomotion on the sidewalks in their Vicinity was at no time seriously interfered with, and extra policemen were required on Broadway to keep the people from getting run over and the stages from geting into a deadlock, It was noticeable, too, that people were in better humor than usual, democrats and republicans indulging in “chaff? at expense with less bitterness than has been their wont for some days past No doubt the announcement by the newspapers that it was quite probable that nothing reliable could be given conceraing the reault of the vote in each of the three States for at lenst a week to come was in a great measure the cause of this chan; Even the republienns and democrats, who on their way up or down the street stopped at the bulletin of their Party papers to sce what was the ‘latest intelligence,” shrugged their shoulders on geoing the same announce- ment that bas greeted their eyes ever since the day aiter election, ‘The people who were really excited, however, wero the unfortunate individuals who have invested heayily iu pools, Men who have their thousands wagered on the success of Hayes stood in the hotel corridors and ou the street corners, and discussed learnedly upon the utter absurdity of the democrats putting in any claim as to # democratic Victory in er State, They pointed out how frauds were “THICK AS LEAVES IN VALIAMBROSA”? in the democratic parishes in Louisiana, aud how proof positive bad been already given that in the republic: parishes no frauds whatever were bie! Ergo, Louisiana could not be counted for Tilden, ‘the bolder cnea laughed heartily over the report that the New Orleans Returning Board would not let their Northern inquisitors be og ter when they went to work \o count the vote. ‘The law,’ said one enthusiast, whose pocket would be very empty Indeed were Lou- siana to be declared democratic, “the law ought to be respected, and as the law down there says the Board must proceed in secret, the fellows who bave gone down there to see them count the vote ought to be shutout’? The democratic betters were nu less ©: cited than the republicans. What they would haveto wait a whole week decision as to the vote of the thr Btates Hadn't almost every mother’s son of the betting m on that side of the house put up his last available dol- lar on the result, caiculating la chapees closely that it Mr. Tilden would be elected on the 7th of the month he could have his money at least five days afterward, ‘The suspense among the betting men on both sides, 1t may be said without fear of contradiction, is absolutely harrowing. Indeed, judging {rom the way they talk, from their anxious faces, fro:a the readiness they manifest to jump at every crumb of comiort thrown to them occasionally by the evening newspapers about how the inte!ligent and reliable Mr, Soand So in one of the three Stutes has positively affirmed that ¢ States have gone so and so, they ure already at th wits? end, Another week’s suspense will kill off one- halfof them if something is not done to make each side moro certain that it 1# to be the winning on the fact of the tnatter 18, the certaruty that each few da, 0 bas passed into painful doubt ROUGH ON THE BETTERS. In the afternoon yesterday, toadd to the agony of their suspense, a rdmor got abroad that in order to bo. sure that the money in the pools went into the right pockets the pool sellers had resolved not to pay out a dollar uutil the Electoral College should meet in Feb- ruary and the result be decided beyond all further dis- pute, ‘Don’t you see,’’ said one wiseacre in one of the uptown hotels, who evidently had no money on the re- sult and therefore felt very happy on seeing so much misery all around him, ‘Don’t you see that such a decision of the pool sellers would be only just? A man bas bet that Tilden fs to be the next President, and, al- though he may have a majority of the electoral votes before the college meets, when the votes come to be presented one of the housea of Congress sucveeds in throwing out the votes of one or two States on account of fraud or something else, and Mr. ‘Tilden is thereby deprived of a mvjority of ‘the electoral voto—the man who bet his moncy that Tilden would not be the next President wins, docsn’t he? Yet bis money has been PAID To THY OTURR MAN Decanse a majority of the Clecioral vote was declared for Tilden previous to the opening of the electoral packages belore the two houses of Congress. Is that right?” It is needless to say that this cruel sugges- tion raised a how! atong the betting men, who were eager listeners, and the proposition was denounced as simply monstrous, The general opinion among tho: who have bet their money ts that on the official an- nouncement of the vote of the doubitul Stutes by their respective returning boards, no matter what may be the resuit, all pools on the final result of the election throughout the Union will be paid over. This will be No doubt the case, as was ascertained yesterday at tha pool rooms from’ some of the employéa Meanwhile there is agony in the land of pooldom. hey to doif a final ? AROUND THE BULLETIN BosRDs. The bulletin boards in front of the various news- paper offices were as much of a atudy and enigma to the innocent and wondering countryman as on any day during the past week. The New Yorker Staats Zeitung office gave no pronounced satisfaction on its balletin board to any of its multifarious readers, The little Daily News proclaimed at one o’clock:—‘Tilden has carried all three doubtful States—South Carolina, Fiorida and Louisiana—and ugurpation is at an end,” The hittlo twinkling Morning Star said tho same, though its bulletin was rather old and contained figures pub- lished about the day alter election. Still, it made an enterprising effort to get atthe heart of the present puzzle, The Sun had an old despateh stuck in one 0 the windows or apertures that formerly let the light of day imto old Tammany all, and it said:—‘Florida has been conceded to the democrats by 1,700 majority. The republicans throw up tho sponge.” Of course, this despatch was more than the balm ef Gilead to such democrats as gazed upon it for the first time, but to the old stagera, who had been up and down Park row and around Printing House square for days it was a mockery, a delusion and asnare. A party, equally composed of di rats and republicans, started out about noon to learn all the latest news as 1% was given on the bulictm boards of the various offices. They had bets depending upon the situation, and, beginming at the Staats Zeitung office, they went steadily along down to the offices of the Sun, Tribune, Times, World, Hvening Mail, Ez- press, Telegram, Henan, Kvening Post and even as far as the Journal of Commerce. When they reached the limit of their trip it would be dificuit to determine whether the democratic or republican minds had been most imposed upo! pozzied. Each was Olied with the most conflictit pressions. fhe Times’ bulletin bad informed t that ‘The three States in dispute are declared repubii- can by the latest and most reliable despatches.” The Tribune, on its bulletin board, was more qualified and more perplexing. It said:—The result depends upon the official count. Both sides still claim Louisiana, though the indications are it has gone republican by a fair count,” There was evident haste and contusion in inseribing some of the bulletins, The one acd im- ry at noon on the wvening Ezpress — “Offeml returns from William M._ Tweed in thirty forty counties on steamer Franklin at St. Thomas give Tilden 1,500 majority, All well on board.” As the Daily News ottice was a bulletin saying, ‘Strange case of election returns from Florida Suicide of the ro- ublican candidate for President. Grant helping the jeocher case returning board in New Orleana”’ The most ludicrous of all, however, was in front of the Mail office, where one despatch was pasted partly over the other, and read this way: “Wickbam uetermmed to oust—Grant indorsed by all ‘ties Louisiana carried by—Democratic notabilities en route vo Ni Orleans Florida bound to bo a republican—Counting out of honest votes. ’” The World, which has never lost its reputation for humor tn arithmetic and politics, had a despatch—an old despatch, by the way, that has done duty for sev- eral days, bat which was still iresh and cheerful to the eyes and hearts, of the anxious democrats who sur- rounded 1 dit said, “Victory, All three States— Fioriaa, South Carolina and Loutsiana—saro for Tilden. Tho struggle at an end. Intamy checked.” This great and glorious bulictin filled democratic hearts with joy. Democrats read 1t and reread it with sweil & majority they went home to their wives and families in mighty good spirits But there were other democrats like those referred to, who in a friendly way resolved to accompany & few republican companions around in ‘an inepestion of the bulletin bonrds, and they did not feel quite so well satisfied, because just immediately after quitting the World bulletin they came face to face with that of the Afail/, with ‘Victory |" blazing and beneath the tuscription, “Hayes sureiy elected. Latest returns from Louwisi- the State to Hayes by 5,000 majority.’? Thus it was that the mixed party of politicians were lighted on their misty way yesterday. They started in darkness and confusion and they wound up in the sane. The Evening Telegram and Hxraio bulletins might have afforded them some censolation, but there ts still a wide and happy margin tor doubt AT DEMOCRATIC HEADQUARTERS. Little in the way of nows was reocived at the Demo- cratic Committee rooms yesterday. Messrs, Hewitt, Pelton, Cooper and ethers were present carly in the morning, and appeared to be occupied with matters of serious importance, Until evening po despatches from the doubtful States whatever were received. There was the usual gathering tn the visitors’ room of expectant nows-seckers, but théir spirits seom to be sinking @ little under tho tedious procrastination They aro, if anything, further away from the settle: ment of the great question now than thoy were three days ago. The absence of definite information is exercising & depressing jniluen: and many feel that auy clange, even 1 hopes, would be preierable to the present distressing period of doubt and solicitady Yet there are some whose opinions are so self-satis- fying as to preclude the necessity, so far as they are concerned, of any further arguinens ot developments, It 18 to be regretted im this regard that these Wiseacres should, while agreeiwg so perfectly with themecives, differ so jnateriaily with Others of Ubeir own confident sort, “Aye, there's the rub,” says one,” and ‘Here’ the rab.’* exctaims another, “Florida is ”* Fe. marks the first, ‘but lam less satisfied with Louisr ana.” ‘Louisiana is safe enough,’ opines the second, NEW YORK HERALD, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1876.—TRIPLE SHEET. tiresome hours of suspense, and the friends even Mey me yor rhage pe a see the clouds Of political turbulence swept away. TUB GKNERAL IMPRESSION which prevails in the committee rooms Reger J the doubtful States is that ‘Tilden will have a deci ma jority in at least two of them. South Carolina ap- pears to be considered somewhat dubious, and mauy democrats are willing to concede the State to Hayes, State more properly belongs a feel agsured that the majority claimed is Just and unexaggerated, while they attompts of the republicans to imamipulate the State. The “fact that figures have been afforded to justify ther claims, whi the — repub- lican” statements are general and indecisive, has much to do with the confidence they express. If by any possibility these expectations are not houestly fulniled, they are satistied that their represeuta- tives in New Orleans will tell them so without reserve. With the situat! Florida also they are disposed to be well pleased, if not entirely satisfied. Here, too, the figures are produced upon their side, only very unexpected reverses can Such are the sentiments entertained by the visitors at the Everett House, and fications do net change thi b ‘A despatch was received Jast night by the National Committee as follows :—_ E.tavinx, Fls., Nov, 14—5 P. M, Two of the remaining counties give us ap increased ma Jority of 13 last olection. Our majority to shis mo- ment is positively 1,1 DREW. Among the prominent visitors at the rooms inst evening were Augustus Belmont, Frederick DeBarry, Mayor jakbam: Deousel Whitney and Henry Have- meyer. Governor Tilden, Mr. Charles Francis Adams and bs A. 8. Hewitt dined last evening with Mr. Kdward Jooper, AT THE FIFTH AVENUM HOTEL. Is was rather amusing tl otherwise yesterday to Seo the news hunters Jooking for the rooms of the National Committee that were not Moen who for the past,month bad been in the habit of congregat- ing in the public rooms of the committee and there pouring forth their doubts and fears were obliged -yesterday to take the corridors of the hotel and the ehance of buttonholing some stray republicun, like themselvos. ‘There were somo who did not and would not believe that the committee rooms had been closed. They had deen fueled once belore, when the rooms bad becu changed and did not propose to be again, The hotel clerks were accordingly anathama- tized heartily, aud looked upon as modern editions of Anpunaias, When they solemnly averrod that the ** Na- Vonal Commiitee rooms were closed.” lt is very extraordinary,” suid one, ‘* shat the rooms should be closed in a trying bour like this” “Yes,” said ap- otner, ** Zach Chandler ly dou’t know what ho is about” ** Weil, now, you let Zach Chandler aione,’” said a third, and go the talk went No one seemed to know anything about the e: affairs in the Southern doubtful States, and one old entieman stood the corner of Broadway and 'wenty-third street all the aliornoon, eagerly watching the Hxmatp bulletin in the hope of seeing decisive news. At the Union League Club during the afternvon wore many representative gentlemen, who eagerly can- vassed the aiternoon papers and talked over ‘‘the situ- ation.’’ There were one who doubted that the States of South Carolina, Florida and Louisiana were for Hayes, and it was believed that the count in those States would demonstrate that iact very plainiy. A few private despatches, arriving during the dav, were indicative of republican suceesses mm the Southern States, but nothing of a very positive nature was re- ceived. At ail of the republican centres there was lit- tle or no excitement, und 1t seemed as if one, at least, of the great parties confidently settied down to await the decision. GOVERNOR TILDEN’S MOVEMENTS YESTERDAY. Governor Tilden passed a very quiet day yesterday. He was closeted with Mr. Dorsheimer, Mr. Bigelow, Mr. Hewitt and others in the morning, and received, as usual, numerous visits from well known democrats such as Mr, McLane, of Maryland, and others. At one o'clock the Governor took his usual horseback exercise for about an hour and returned in excellent spirits. The muggy and threatening weather prevented his taking his wonted drive, and he spent the remainder of the afternoon at nis house, where ho and Mr. Bigelow devoted some hours to the careful examination of the law regulating the Presidential election and the counting of the vot east for elocters, as well as to the interpretation of some of the disputed questions given by the eminent jurists of this country. Governor Tildea’s mind is ot such a thoroughly analytical and imquirimg turn that there is no doubt whatever of his having completely mastered the subject in every phase which it may pos- sibly assume, be it in consequence of fraud vy the Stato caavassera in the doubtiul States or of adverse actionpy the Vice President or the Senate when the votes are finally counted by Congress, Il, after such thorough scratiny, Governor Tilden 18 still of the opin- jon, a@ bis trends say he is, that he will be peacetully and quietly inaugurated President in the usual course ‘on the 5th of next March, 1 only shows that the Gov- ernor feels convinced that he cannot be counted out, and his great caution and far trom sanguine temperg- ment wou'd indicate that-he has made every possibip allowance or adverse eventuniities. Toward evening Mr. Howitt called atthe Governor's résidence to in- vite him to a dinner party to be given in his honor by Mr. Edward Cooper. This invitation tne Governor cordially accepted, and then gave orders that no fur- ther cards should be sent up to ta Nor it would be Impossible to seo any more Visitors. This must navo been joyiul news to the servants who bave to open the doer, tor the writer has never been five minutes at the house without hearing at least the same number of rings of the bell, which, if this ratio continues, will certainly ‘have to be replaced by a new one. At about hall-past six the Govervor and Mr. Bigelow drove over to Mr. kdward Cooper's house, which is in Lexington avenue, oppo- site that of bis lather, Mr. Peter Cooper. The vener- able ppilanthropist and Mr Charies Francis A well as Mr, Hewitt and some other intimate trien the Cooper tamily, were of the party and the din: was good eflough to have compensated both Mr. Adams at. No iil feeling existed ntial candidates, Mr. Ceoper gnd Mr. Tilden, and the 260 votes which the first drew way from the latter in this city alone was no bar te the interchange of the most cordial sentiments. Tho dinner party did not break up until a late hour, when the Governor was drivon back to bis house, where he soon after retired. WILL GRANT HOLD OVER? Early in the afternoon the rumor was current in the city that the Wall street operators were betung heavily on the fuct that General Grant was the next President of the United States—that there would be no count by Congress in February, and that ‘“Cwsarism” was triumphant for atime, Heavy bets, it is alleged, were made in Water, South and other streets on the correctness of this rumor. That was absurd on its face, Yet the reporter hied away to Wall street to verily the rumor or contradict a canard. The first man be met in Nassau near Fulton street was a deputy United States marshal uader Mr. Fisk: who, when informed of the rumor, said:—"You know me well enough to justify me in the semtiment that the Unitea States oflicers in this city have had enough ofGrantism, Doa’t publish my name, but let me tel! ou that if there bea bogus count in Louisiana or Fiorida the deputy marshals and secret -ervice men of the United stat tf which | am o frat to know st I have given you im the United States courts, when you coveted them, exclusive 1iems, and you never betrayed me. 1 believe that Tilden will unless counted Gut—be the next President.” Here the dialogue was inierrupted by the passage down the sircet of ex-Police Justice Quackenbush, late of Jefterson Market, who was hurrying to the Custom House, and when tapped on the shoulder and informed of the rumor, became indignant—wanted to buckle on a sword and go down South to fight " cret Service Man gave bin Aquict hint that ola flouse officials Lad fought in South, aud Judge Quackenbust hied away to his qaar- ters 10 the Custom House, The reporter subsequently Visited the office of leading vankers, including Selig- man & Co., Kulus Hate & Co, and the ramor was geveraily discredited, Mr. Seligman, a brother of the Rapid Transit Com- missioner, characterized the stury as absurd, and stated (hat there was po political excitement on ‘ihe reet’’ yesterday, and that the moneyed men of the metropolis had entire coni@ence in the report that would doabticss be made by the prominent gentiemer who had goue South to watoh and wait jor a lair count. TOM ACTON Sreaks As tho reporter crossed the corner of Wall and Broad streets he esmed the tamiliar ince of Commis. sioner Tom Acton im an upper window of the Unwed States Assay oftice, Two minutes later Mr. Acton, in iis Outer office, met the reporier, and as a United States officer said:—"l have not heard the ramor, but General Grant can't bold over." “But constitutional questions, Mr. Acton, it ts said, will be raised (hat may ronder it necessary for Grant to retain the Presidency until ail doubis are dispelled. Yhe New York police force, who remember you in the riots, or ‘Fire in the rear,’ want to know: where their old wil bo ip case of the republicans precipitati ‘Ww conflict in Ute city. You cannot remain silent under these circumstances.” Mr. Acton, as be locked his sate, talked rapiciy aod said :—“ There will be no conflict. Our people on Wall street are endeavoring to quiet the excitemont. The the confidence Repybiicans and democrats aiike can wre will Le Do count out, country is sate under e: of these men. id men may tall and wilder mou may bet. 1 tell you ho trouble, Our people cannot aflurd to have troubi All 18 quiet on the street and quictude will continue. This is my advice. ’’ AT THE LUIKRTY STRERT HEADQUARTERS there was little or nO cxcitewent yesterday. The ‘usual business went on, and the despatches received were morély a repetition of those that had been dis- played on ali the bulletin boards of the city. Later in the day one of the most astute and reliable will be the rn others than C “but my misgivings are strobg about Florida.” And So the field is canvassed in all directions, with- out approaching one whit nearer to the great “who is ity’) Wen the fiat saall eventually ve issued, it 18 probable that all animosity will have spent itm Central Office weivctives, who mukes nis the monetary centre, = w m by u and most ‘emphatically dented that he bad an, formation o# to the Wall blreet syndicate ha’ ven currency to the rumor that Ghan would hold over sod play the part of Cwsar, Where the story originated coald not be as- cortuined, Rutus Hateh’s coufdential clerk bad oer aad a was only alter the reporter had ORGANIZATION OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY CANVASSERS—ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS. ‘The Board of Aldermen met as county canvassers in the City Hall at twelve o’clock yesterday, and con- Vinued their session until late last evening. Alderman Purroy, having been appoiuted to preside, called the meeting to order, when County Clerk Wal: as clerk to the canvassers, called the roll of members, The following arrangements were thea wade as to Proceeding with the canvass: — 8 | The Loard will meet each day at ten o'clock antil the conclusion of their duties. A committee of three on protests was appointed, consisting of Messrs, Keonan, Sauer and Billings, to whom will be referred all claims and papefs bearing upon the eleetion of can- didates. Protests will be considered upon the last day of the canvass. Messrs. John Relily, seery and Cudlipp were appointed a committce to supervise the returns of Luspectors of Election who may be sum- moued belore the Board. Alderman Sauer off adopted:— the following, which was containing only the last jed or containing didate with an impropor Orst didate tor which it is inten name be ou the ballot, or th ing attachds of the Buard were then ap- Pointed by @ unauimous v.te:— ‘Assistant Clerks—George $ Thompson, Joseph B. Adamson, Edwin Madan, William H. McUabe, Alfred G. Sauer, Charles Brooks, John A. Boyle, William B. Lud- low, James A. Heunessy, «George A, Lambrechis, Sergeant-at-Arms—VPatrick Burns. Assistant sergeant- at-Arms—Andrew Fitzsimons, Messengers—Joseph A. Becker, John Ford. Doorkeepers—James Dooley, Henry Potera The Board was then eceupied during the day tn regular routine proceedings. No formal protests were received. Counsellor Woife appeared as usual on bo- half of twenty-two candidates who claim to yeted Aldermen under the old charter, No bearing was given, but it 1s Qnderstood that a regular. protest will de sent in to-day. No interest is manifested in the Ogures, as it cannot alter the complexion of the successtul vote in any dis- trict, Tbe Board will be ii sion lor several days THE O4NVASS OF KINGS COUNTY. The Kings County Board of Aldermen met yesterday afternoon as a Board of City Canvassers, to canvass the votes given at (he late election for city officers, ‘The chair was occupied by Pr ent French, It was moved by Alderman Burnett that a committee of five be appointed 10 receive and canvass the returns and report the result to the Board, _ It was the opinion of Alderman Murtha that the whole Board nad better receive and canvass the re+ turns. President French stated that a protest was be- fore Board, whereupon Alderman Burnett with- drew bis motion for the purpose of hearing the protest read. Alderman A. S. Rowley (republican), of the Seventh ward, was the protestant. He objected to the votes of his ward being canvassed, on tho ground that thé votes did not express the will of the honest voters of the Seventh ward, Alderman Rowley iur- ther stated m his protest that the votes frem his ward were the results of glaring. trauds; that an importation of gome 200 men hud taken place from other wards for the purpose of electing his opponent, Mr. Phillips (democrat). i Alderman Rowley’s protest was referred to the Com- mitiee on Elections. Tbe motion of Alderman Bur- nett, to rofer the returns toa committee of five to canvass, Was then put bolore the Board and carried, with an amendment to the effect that the count should be open before the Board and public The following members were then appointed by the chair to compose the said committee:—Griswold (republican); Murtha (democrat); Williams (republican); Corr (democrat); Fritz (republican Upon the opening of the returns the districts of the different wards werg found to be regular with the ex- ception of two or three; these the number of the dis- trict had not been put in by the poll cierks. e Kings County Board of Supervisors met at past twelve o'clock yesterday, in the Couuty Clerk office, as a Board of County Canvassers. Subsequently the members adjourued to the Supervisors’ chamber, Supervisor Strong moved that a commitiee of six be appointed to assist in the canvass of the votes tor the caudidates on the county teket. The motion was carried and the canvass commenced. The Firat elec- tion district. returns of the First ward were returned through Suporvisor Ward fof correction, The uggre- gate of the votes cast failed to agree with the amount of detailed figures. The Board then had summoned before it the can- vassers of the Secoud district of the First ward to ex- plain why some of the democratic electors had only received half of the amount the others received. Un account of the errors in additions the Third and Fitth districts were also sent back, the remaining districts 1n the ward being correct. The returus from all of the Gistricts 1p the Fourth ward, as aiso the returns from the First, Third and Fifth rds, were retu for correction, Tbe Board then adjourned until to-day. jaunt . QUBENS COUNTY OFFICIAL CANVASS. ELKCTORS. Tilden. ..,.cceceeees 9,004 Hayes,...... 2.0000, 6,970 GOVERNOR. Robinson..........- 9,946 MOPPAN....+.s0eveee 7,008 LIRUTENANT GOVERNOR, Dorsheimer......... 9,946 Rogers ...........+. 7,003 CANAL COMMISSIONERS. Darius 8, Ogden. 9,947 Daniel D, Spencer... 7,001 1 Robert H. Anderson. (Not complete). Trow- (Not complete). ASSOCIATE JUDGE COURT OF APPEALS, Robert Eurl........ 9,816 George T. Danforth.. 6,882 CONGRESS. James W. Covert....10,14 John A. King....... 6,828 FOR COUNTY CLERK. John H. Sutphin,...10,872 No opposition, POR SHERIFF. Benjamin F. Rusb- Alonzo B. Wright... 1,577 more. wee 9, MEMBER OF ASSEMALY—FIRST DISTRICT. Elbert Floyd Jones. 3,602 Samuel Willetts..... 8,403 SECOND DISTRICT, — J.B, Van Nostrand, (Not complete), George E. Bulmer. (Not complete). AMENDMENTS, Against canal amend- i WESTCHESTER'S ELECTORAL VOTE, The Board of County Canvassers in and for West- chester county reassembled at White Plains yesterday forenoon and commenced tho official count of the votes cast on the 7th inst. The only canvass completed was that of the electoral vote, which stood as follows:— Tilden, 12,053; Hayes, 9,573; Cooper, 14 Accordingly an" actual majority over Hayes in the county is 2 WANTED—A SAFETY VOTE RE- CORDER. To tae Epitor oy Tux HERaip:— Under the above caption, if you will permit me, I desire to outline to your readers « possible and much needed invention, in the hope it may be caught up by some of tho inventive specialists amoung them and made the suurce of profit to themselves and of saving and security to our country. In my recollection no election has occurred whereof the ery of fraud has not been loud and repeated on either sida. Whether true or raised for merely party ends the offect on the people must sooner or Jater come to be a distrust of the popu- lar vove aud want of respect for the authority 80 con- stituted, As I understand the spirit of our government ft is bora of the belie! thas s majority bolding a common poiitical Iaith rules; thal the vote cast represen: faith and wish of the voter, thatthe voter shall be free to vote as is conscience dictates, unembarrassed by considerations allecting Lis purse, bis socia! stand- a or his siberty, Juder our present plan of voting can such conditions be said to exist? Withim the personal knowledge of every invelligent man these are known to be ac The employer muy know a under the tmtimidation of discharge unduly influence tem, ! The unwary or ixporant may bocome the victim of one of the common tricks of substitucing, amd so vote the very tiekel he desired to oppove, The votes, when cast, may be wrongly coanted, or, when fraud is practised, made to defeat the wiil of tho people. Tue practice, then, is im coutiiet with the spirit of our goVerument, and calls ior a remedy, As tully aus | swering this end, | propose, insiead of a vote holder, vote recorder, ‘This can be constructed on wel. kno’ Mechanical principles so xa Not only to recorU, bat in- Siumtly add up, votes, thus gem. B wrong Couat Impossible, wHile che footings would be ready to be despatched the oment the poila closed. Kevording boxes ou thik principle could be so con- Structed that the vover could make seeret choice of candidate, Wiha bell and the aid o! a apring to be wound up, it could publicly announce the fact of each voto, The dial aunouncing the. whole vote might be pablic for ali to sec us the voting progrossed, whiie the result to each candidate, recorded each on & rate dial, might be kept enclosed until ready for public announcoment with the close of the polls. Far more compiex proviems have been reduced to Ware aud automatic precision, The adoption of such a box would necessitate tho ‘votor doing @ little thinking. He mut at least kaow and remewber the name of the candidate for whom he desires to volo. Ho must be sober enough to distinguish botween the candidates It might, however, be eo perfected as to compete successiully with the present system in this respect; if a0, there could be no possibl jon to its adop- ton. Seriousiy, | think oar moshod of voting could be improved upon. ‘ho will undertake to secure forthe poor mane chance to vote as he may choose without Joopardiaing aia empioy ment f " sir amen raat * ‘ondersake the spent New York. ~ ‘A TRENOHANT SUGGESTION. To rus Evrror ov Tas Hegatp:— 5,000,000 of the democratic and republican votersof the United States doubt their honesty and impartiality | in rendering what they may declare an honest count. Second—Because of the andoubted intimations and strong inainuations of the imposstbility of their being allowed to return an bonest count, Even the Presi- dent fears a dishonest count, as seon by hiptaking steps to prevent fraud and to insure honesty. No de- cent member of the present boards should remain since the Prosidont bas deemed it necessary to send troops Into those States to prevont fraud on their and has requested several of our most prom: statesmen aud respected citizens to visit those States to seo that an bonest return is made by the returoing © boards. Third—Because all or nearly all of the members of the boards interesied parties, Fourth—Any return by the present boards in favor of the republicans will be douvied, whether trae or not. Ifin favor of the democrats, it might be upon the ground that they would not be likely to ren- der a judgment against themselves. : For the above reagous, and many others that be mentioned, th® present boards should resign, them resign one ata tim@, and in the place of each de parting let the member of andoubted hone: and integrity elected, whether democrats or republi- 8, uotilall the present boards have Te ee and new men chosen instead, Falk FLAY, A POINTED QUERY. To Tux Kprror ov THe HeraLD:— ‘The frauk impartiality and manly utterances of the Hewavp upon the crisis of the past week have won for it the increased admiration and contidence of its world of readers. Sharing 1p vhis faith in the devotion of the Hekatp to the interests of the whole people, and thus assured of # straight(orward anawer, I bogie aska ly to the owing interrog: WI that nearly complete returns were received on the morning alter the election from such lar off States as Oregon, Nevada and California, where the vote was decidedly close, also trom the Southern States of Texas, Arkapsas, Alabama, Mississippi, G North Carolina, and yet, after a week has nee the closing of the polls, we are without d iv ee from Louisiana, Florida and South Carolina? Without intending to suggest a reply, | venture further to ask, is there not something dangerously “rotten in Den- mark,’”? Yours, respectfally, E, B, LANSING, No. 954 St. Mark’s PLack, Brooxtyy, Nov, 18, 1874, “DISINTEGRATING THE SOUTH.” A WORD FROM A SOUTHERN MAN ABOUT MR, WENDELL PHILLIPS’ SPRECH. Y To Tax Epitor ov THE HeRaLp:— . Even a member of to-day’s republican party must, It seems to me, be struck, on reading Mr. Phillips’ talk to the Bostonians, printed in your paper of this morning, with its gasping style, reminding one forcibly of the manner in which Darius Groen, of the flying machine, spoke, when, looking up, he said that the flying was all well enough but the trouble seemed to be 1m lighting. Mr, Phillips talks highly—almost equal toa funeral oration—of the spirit which for the last sixtceu or twenty years has animated the republican party, but says, with a tear, “The sam is going on to-day that went on and $1864 in the whig ranks.” Ag has pi slavery ‘under, * * * and a large measu its work 1s done.” He might hi omitted the quali- fying phrase in the latter clause, but letting that stad, for a party may ve never. does entirely Anish its work, why should Mr. Phillips mourn? M because he finds one sound (?) timber labelled, ‘*Disintegration of the South,” in the old bulk, otherwise di rotten, He says:—'*The republican party, in any other sense than of its value in the Southern isaue, 18 dead, and in the living timber which it contains wo are to rely for the future,” In other words, the only gafety for the republican party is in breaking the South. Not content bh our (1 am a Southerner, but was a boy at that time) submission to their arms and acquiescence in their lawe they must mow, he says, “disintegrate” the South. Nov at word “disintegrate” sounds like a very harmless word to the Northern » may be—to a com- munity of classes who are in every manner diverse from each other—but it means much more to a people like those inhabiting the Sduthern States. They are, first, almost entirely plain and simple turists; their tastes and tendencies are alike, and it pre- vious training has been, over almost the whole extent of Southern territory, the same. To disintegrate the South, then, means what? Not to change their views n or tho viows of apart of them, making them grasp the actual ideas of more advanced men, for this tg not the work of an election. It means that ere raw to the task of political thought, tho safe’ republican party lies in attaching the nogre to ite standard, or, failing in that, inust excite that feeling between the biacks and whites which will give a pre text for the cry of which we have beard so much, *“In- timidation and fraud.” Tois is Mr. Phillips’ “disinte gration.” It can be nothing else. You might as well try to disintegrate the Catholic Church, with its. ones ness of interest, as try to e the people of theSouth- orn States—either whites or blacks, ater the latter have have had a little more time for thougnt—contend Sean I mer, indeed, and re bro eg hohe ah capital, new ideas and more popular cdui will, bring about this diversity of thought ead pplbtons but not a party election of officers; nor is it the work of an administration that wili bring it about, apd the man who upholds the idea of the formation of a party or the election of an administration for this purpose is either wild or on the ve Of disloyalty. That is hard word, I know, for a who has tho regpect of his country, as Mr. Phillips rightly bas; bat it sounds very harsh fora leader of a great patty, which has Jong had its heel en the neck of a portion of our Union and is now about to be in its turn overcome, to utter this last raily cry, “We must disintegrate the sad MILTON SAYLER INTERVIEWED: WHAT THE NEXT SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE * SAYS OF THE BLECTORAL QUESTION. [From the Cincinnati Commercial, Nov, 12] A reporter of the Cincinnat! Commercial recently had an interview with the Hon. Milton Sayler, as follows:— Rerogter—There ie a great deal of misapprehen- sion as to the Electoral Collego and the method of choosing a President, and we want the fulness of your information on this important subject, Mr, SayLeR—Well, I can tell you certain facts, Idon’t want you to attempt to draw me into the ex- pression of any opinions on certain points. I tell yo this to save you tho trouble, I don’t know really that’ I have any information except that which is possessed genorally by tho intelligent people of the country, The question of the method of choosing the President of the United States was a very serious one in tho construction of tho constitution in 1789, Under that system, substantially, the prosent system of elec- tors was adopted. But no distinction wes mado be- tween the vote for President and the vote for Vice President, and it was only determined that the person who should receive the highest number of the elec- toral votes, provided it was a majority of all, should highest number, providing aiso that it was a majority of the electoral votes, should be the Vice President, provided that no elector should vote for both Prosi. ° dent and Vice President from his own State. The evk dent inte~@.on was thatthe electors in the several States should be chosen a8 an independent body, and should cast their vote for whomsoever they preferred; that the Preside: hould be elected Very much as our Senators are elected now, from the State, without roference to any pledge and with- out reference to the claims uf any individual, Under this provision, at tne first election. Genoral Washington received sixty-nine votes, which, being the bighest number, x was declared President of the. United States, Mr, Adams, Mr, Jay, Mr. Rutled, Mp Clinton and two or three others votes. Mr. Adams, receiving the next bighest uumber to General Washington, was declarod to be the Vice President. It seems to have been uuderstood at this time that tho President of the Senate should receive the votes and announce them mu the presence of the jot session of the Senate and House, and that thetr duty was smmply clerical, The couatstution of 1789 fixed no time for the choice of electors or tho counting of the vote, and during Washington's first administration, as lrememver vow, though 1am talking wishout posi- tive reference to dates, the time wus fixed for the choice of electors, and also the time for the counting of the vote In the Senate, “1 think this was io 1792, and that it was then fixed to choose electors at a certain time, which is the present time, and a -Voues should be counted ou the second Wednesday in February, That is ny recollection of my reading Of it The next Seeaied occurring in 1796, is perhaps worthy of soine note Ji now, inasmuch as Mr. Adams was (hon chosen by on@ majority, receiving 71 out of the 140 electoral and Mr. Jefferson receiving tho next highest number tm the lection of 1800 that a tic vote occurred between Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Burr, which lod to the tweltth amendment to the constitution, which ided tor the firsi time that separato votes should be cast for the it and Vice President, and that sl be separately indicated on the ballot. This am was proposed, ag I recollect, tn 1803, and finally: and proclaimed some time during 1804. 1t was not till 1864 that the vote of any Stave was rejected by tion of the Senate and House, Atleast I do aot of any instance occurring prior to that time by action of the two houses, the votes of the bellion were rejected in 4 risen, ho by) ermination of the the President and Vico Presideat without ‘This Jommt rule, which was that oither house might make its ition of vote SUTRS Ee ae ne oles and being declared the Vice President [twas _