The New York Herald Newspaper, June 22, 1859, Page 3

ceteansanasttmeeenonatlne sense neation (God forbid that were should be) of conducting bute wegotistion Gould BOL be cooducted witho vermment a tbat whieh he wi DME upeortof atull majoriy of boty houses of Pariament, Hear, bear.) hn LORD KLLENTOMOUGH'S KPRECH, The Bart of ELLWNKOKOUGH 60 eutrely agreed with het bet failen fram Dis woole aod learned fread Lord Brougbam) coat be could not forbear exprets * OG enire Concurrence ta the couctacig te noble lord's address, He had wished ier period of the present debate to bave ex- the view which had now been presenied lo be Hovre ip #0 much better & manger suau he could pave prevented it. Tle held that am int rventiom vi (he vrarut tote f affairs im Burope was witerly without hope, Jiniess we first made ourslors wnatiockuble here ab Won nd ities we Could back an dim with sucr a wsnk uid mibiterry force as woul enable ue, an case uf mecorsity, bo terfere wih effect. Such » ores could Bot be Ob\aiued derwre than throng the meciun of a streag covern cnt, Now the reauit ot the recent dirsolntion was thie— Ded, to ® great extent, equalized the sbrength of part on, nd bad, in eo far, thrown Dack tbe hope of @ strong wserpmect, Further, however, Uhat mouon whish nai 400 swetched ous by the KOdIe earl OppdRite, aut a * he (Lora Elienverough) bad been informed, aw! b he other Foore, Was one of the me wauree throw bsck & #rong government. [a the mo in which (hey were Low placed, looking to what ¥ MIKE, there Abpeared’ little Dope of a rong goveroment Ho (Lord Euenboroage) siabed nat cobie lords aod honor avle geatiemen io toe otver pouse wonld look back, a# he hua done, to tue oats in the House of Commons during the law ar, mod to the history of that perio’, They woald how @ puns farge bady of most infuentiel mem Ob Was Hlso about (hat time peased desiring Mr to tbe King wn earnes) denice tut the Dake » a weem the opposition bad conddeuce, ve an interview with Mr. Pox. with a view 0 (6 pg OD ado DiRtrANOD On & Wil Fequal basis. Ov } wore “equel” the whole negotiation weot off, and the: Pro tuo ty of arpitraton was unt notely jost, He re Fred (© tnege facts to eRow that at no time did (hoee two 1 men—Mr. Pitt and Mr. Fox-tthiok t% incopsiatent ‘D their publle duty or private honor to unite wi ject of governing the country. (Hear, hea ard Derby.) Be trusted that those facts world aot pass um the recollection of the house or the country, aud leat in whatever danger tbey wight be placed. padlic en would not permit priva'o feeling to deter them to nin taking part in the goverumient of the country Hear.) Tho Duke of Arc ho baa wut do . Was glad Waat bis noble friead baa drawa the’s lordsaips’ atten on Daek to the ok whieh be delleved to be the we point of debate. Tae covle and learuat lord aid ai to wake Our mediasion successtc) we ought to be in portion to witerfere whb cfheet, Toere was, tr, Srother requisite, and that was that we ould ma'ntein at least some show of imparsiality neers.) Speocbes bad been delivered to-wight by the Joble ‘ord ind cating er opinion upon one side racher toon pon the orber— (near, near)—and if such speeches were uppowed to be the representation of the views of the overnment tt was Clear tagt the intervention of that Jeverament wonld love any weight to which it would be berwise eotiled. He (tho Duke of Argyie) was not de hrous of ioucbing vpon tre question of foreign affaira, but the noble marquis near bim (tae Mar ait of Normanby) took a view of our fore'gn relations bich the circum#etancee in which we were piaced did ax emt justify. H> would maintain, in oppusition to the ct in all has relations with the Eagitsh mernment the French Bmperar had been exceedingly faith ful. There were portious of te coatuct of that poten te of which uo party ip this conntry could approve, but e mvet Ray, that since the coup d'état the cmauct e euch Emperor had been most yal. He bad another com aint to towke of bis noble friend, who bad unjustifiabiy. he thought, stated that Lord Palmerston was ready tw ‘ke war Oo if of y. This stateroent was made on jority which was no authority, and which the n ‘bt pot to bave taken a8 sufficient basis upon which Make bis statement. So far as he could speak he be 4ved that Lord Palmerston was in favor of a strict new lig. Fle did not wish to go intoa discuseion of the yeetion of reform, but there were afew words which he rehed t) add-ess to their lordships on the subject of the Aluhoogh the Jate government was divided nm of reform, there gcemed to be a freliag in at it would be time enough to consider the it came on in regular form, and there bad en on the whole @ disposicion manifesied to shirk ihe osideration of the question a8 far ag possible. For his own rt be trusted that the course takeu © first reform iM was not about to be followed in the present tusiuauce, je thought that it was the duty of the Route at the earliest bie opportunity to go into coneiveration of the sub ct, that it was only by 80 Going tbat they could hopo to Aereime @ jvBt influence in ihe matter, Be trusted that jo great Conservative purty would Bee the uécesrity of uiting forth tome deflate views oa the subject of reform, # by £0 doing, if they did not save the goverum nt, they ‘onid promote the iterest of their couurry. Tue sarguis of NoxMANBY rose to expiaip. juke had accused him of speaking with too much freedom a the foreign question. He must remind bin that be be Jao by observing toat Fuch was the position which be oo lupied that what be said could not commit aay ono eiae. Hear, hear) The decluratiou of the noble lord, the ember for Tiverton, who was now endeavoring to tor m 6 government, that he hoped the result of the war vuld be che expulsion Of the Austrians rom Lombaray, ppeared Lo bim to ciaqualify nim for the post of Price wiser. Be did vot ray wat Lord Palmeretoa was sed to goto war, he oniy re’erred to the impr Tue nove | within ihe jast few daya, that if the lord becarne Prime Maistur © ireops of Kogland wauid join those of France, THE KARL OF DERUY'S SPEKOH Toe Farl of Dexny—I bave heard a great deal of non- nee WikD regard to the efforts of the government to ia- uepee the wie elections, Hy noble friend ths Lord weotenant of Trend bes pretty satisfactorily disposed (ioe Compact Said to have been entered into vetwaen vernment and Cardinal Wikeman as regards that ide of the water; and I can say that Lam as clear with leyard to the government on this vide of the water as my vile friend is with regard to the government on the other ia from any compact, agreement jason with tardnal Wiseman, directly or indi (fear, hear ) yfore the Jate election we were wold by conservative mon Oatholies that they wore glad to flud inet they ere aDle, Withovt any Violation of their own principles, p give NB B® SOIT’ which they has never given to any bservative government before. But they based that esurance, not vpon apy promles which bad been made, 1 upon ay compact Waicn hed been entered into, but yoo what had been dove in the face of tae public, ud upen our determination to do tbat which we neereustoorly believed to be right. (fear, hear.) Was suberquently deciured in a letier from Card{ Jal Wiseman to an [ish membor, that they gave shat sup- nt to toe government hecavee they found that, without ny professions or pledges, Romaa Catuolies had been ated with more courtesy, with tnore fatruess, aud in a ore Ftraigntforward manner, m matters affecting thoir hig'ous feelings and persuasions, than they had ever been yy uty former government, woether whig or tory. Lao ot think that was a reason for support of which the go- ernment on the one side or the Roman Catholics cn the tier haveany reason to be ashame}. (Ministerial cheers. ) ‘e bave done nothing for them but what we consider em fairly entitied to, and we ball continue to pursue ne Kame Course that we have pursued; we shall continue give them whotever indulgence we consider thom legiti- ately aud fuirly enatied to, and we shali not concede to em ony thing which oan in fhe slightest degree prejadice Ir impair the interests of thut cburch to which we ovlong. Hear, hear.) The degree of snpport which has been iven is, however, of a very different character from what e beed supposed. In Some insta vs Loe Roman Cath Ic privste eve been more violent ngainst the government ndidetes than T remember them ever to have been be- ro, (Hear, bear.) PROJECT OF A COALITION GOVERNMENT, Wo have been to'd by a note ear! to night that on ooca- jong jike the prevent it isthe duty of public men, the ads of parties, to combine for the pab ic good, aad to indeavor to effect such combinatiour as will issue in the mavon of e strong government. A nobdie and learned eva of mine apoke of the combination between Me Fox a Mr Pitt and mentioned what etrack me as rather ‘ourly coinciing with an event in our cwn day. Ho said at 1D 1804, Mr Fox benaved iike an angel in accep!ing o BOMewhet inferior post of Britieb Minister at Vienna. we noble lord the member for London 13,1 must observe, qualiy eptitied to the praise which belongs to such an- elie scntiel—langeter)—but I never howrd that the lobie lord the member for Tiverton hat had the geno- ity to say that Lord Jobn Russell behaved like aa angel. reat lavghter.) I have po doubt the noble viscount joiced most etoerely at the self-sacrifice which was aie by tbe noble lord the member for Loadon, and 1 Kieve he rejoiced as sincerely when he found that the ult Of the negotiations had pot been greatly to increase at poole Jord’s political reyutation, (Laugbter.) I Inderetand that thore hes lately been a meeting recorcilianion between those two noble lor a their friends, and I should like to kuow hethor or not the rosuit fa to be that a}! who differ | ‘oni either of taem wiil be expeeted to undertake aa an- Hic mission! (aughter) Speaking geriously, L would ¥ that I thick it would boa great putilic aivautage if labtic men would agree to sacrifice come of their political ripciples for the purpose of forming a strong administra- m Lcertainly cannot cbarge myself with having ve- cted to endeavor to obtain extraneous aid in quarters pconnected with the government, though I have oot met ith the suceces which I boped for, I cannot accuses mm; f of having omitied to seize any opportunity of ence oribg by Mrave Of iair ond bovorable combinations to ebgiben the government which has been ectrnsted to y Danie by the Sovereign, (Hear, bear) My noble jend who opened thig discussion (Kar! Crauville) en- Ted into variovs muttere oa which thonght the gov- Dinent were guilty of skortcominga during the last year. lavipg no fault to find with the speech, be referred to the oie vill end to the conduct of foreign affairs. Ag re croed tho Inter rubjeck he explained pois: ber Meat m4 Ms'mespury) had been rosely megiigs regarded the jayi of papers: In the table, I should like to hee wist Berens y noble friend referred to. Ip the case of the Cagli . there was, if I recollect rigntiy, generel con- Frence 1 this bouse in the course pursued by the go- ertmen’, and as regarsed the Charice et Georges affer ¢ effect of prodveiug the papers was such that my nobld jend, having mace @ motion, mort discezetly, oesuuy withdrew it. (Lavghter.) Tt had been aseimmed the government had always met with the utmost for- pearance in the House of Commons. Ihave no wisn to py that there bar, on the whole, been ‘a considerable ount of forbearance; but ov One ocasion, at nl! events, ere WHS AD attempt to displace us from afflee, and it Hed only for want of sufficient union. There was ono er subject which the noble Karl presses into his speech , mely, the Cunard packet joe. Amid the serious piioation# on the Continent I ehould not have expectad » Dobie Earl to introduce that topic, Tho fast ta, vow: er, Ubat the contract was renewed in accorsanse with je Opwion of the government which proveded ue; ond r, Cunard baviog offerors to perform additional eorvicee meane 0! ehips which tt would take two years and ef to inild, we thought jt best to consent to the re- wal of the contract for five years longer, Now, the bie Duke who bas jutt sat cown has certainly thrown bew light ou the diesotvtion of Parliament. telis Us it Was nod for tho purpose of agcertaining whe. govermment which should pave she cordial . | | ther we or they posserned te sont ’ence of the eaudair mere biind—ha! the real quekboa w woeiber the country iked Our Pel rm pit, 1 1t the liberty of saying the question waa not whetber the country approved of our apg hogs dus whetner thoy That wos Approved of the mode ta position bad acted du preventing @ disoursion on Ute bill, (Hear, bear.) ‘That ¢ wan vot om the question of our Reform ii we Went to the country it Proved by the vary amaii som! er be gabe which rélorm wes menticaed at The q was undersiood by the country, It wa | : Are yoo prepared, in the present siuation of affa wo ‘the government Kuch BUS por, as will enable them £ warry ov the affairs of (be country, of are you prepared to give that Rupport to any other party? My lori, ine yeonlt is before yon | admit it i@ not alogethar gatl:fas Lory—that government i in & position i ik BOF desiradie for them t he placed In; bot, wito regard to torexta por ey apd foreiyy affairs Tai eesnred that the couvtry will RV! 4 KeDErOUS Bod UDKDIMONE KUppOrt bo th bave po . By the course we have comme ed to bide, and T ebink i w enttiaontls ebown that on this sudject there is no ait: of epizion m the country. (Hear, bear ) No doubt there have been Expressions of individual opinion, bus with them T bave pething 10. do. Leon only repeat wout | have sad delore, thet wiih politics! « mpatties the goveramens har noting todo, On that question Fam Kure your Lordships Will expect and require from me the vtmost reserve; Ve Lever concealed my feelings. [ have al war Was & question of ita y, or any older ba Hon, feekorg to emane'paie ime by Ne ewn efuris from the couirel of & forcigu Power, to yubstisute for a foreign ‘ie wo free urtituiions, | Mppretend the gy mir. fe feelings Of every man in thig coun. try Wouid be im fuvor of the success of suCD aD attempt, Dit, iy lorek, i that pay reves the Gaeo in the present Siruggie fe Italy? Do we Ewe teres pavion pecking to emancipate téeif bY its Own powers fom foreign control nd to sUbsKute for Austrian government liDeriy and free Wetituuons’ But even if ik were, wb. r Our Sympe thier Aud feehuge might be, we Dave obligations ag a pa. tiop, we are bound by treaties aad Dy thternational Jaw Bot to interiere oF give active effect (0 Cur eympathy. But in this case, white Dmoy say Learnt speak with appravat Of the cowrvanf Austria, and whie 1 hare no sumpachy with her rude or the form of her government, yet 1 must say this tx a war undertaken under false pretencs; this nol a » Uibrty or Freedom, wis a war in which Sardinia 9 the lad im forcing a struggle om Italy, has seriously damaged the cause of conatit atimal gmernmerts. which every friend of Sardinia must derire to see thrive and nrosper, amd Teas shuren Oat a government with free inediter tions is not less grasping, less Cipored & self-aygrandize munt, of less prone to disturb the peace of the world, thn the I co oot sey where the blame rests, out I do Pay thar on neither #ide do I gee sufficient reavoo for encountering all the horrors of war. If the parues were + Dees belween them y friendly negotiation (Heer, hear.) ‘This country canuoi feel wympathy with erther ihe wish for the success or detest of either, except as it may lend to peace, but J hold it is cur imperative duy fo maintain what we have announced from the first, a strict and impartial newrrality between “the contending par tues. My lords, the “pegition of a ueutral poly is Cho open Lo much suspicion, and Involves the coun ty which Fecks to maintain it ib the posaibiiity of giving cause of Compiuint or Cflence to the comnatants; wnd if any Plalesman when war is wagtog around determines to tain. tulp neutrality, it te bis bounden duty at the same time to place the Country jo possession of the means to secure her enfety. I b ve the Houre aud the country are ubanimoug tn the belief thet at present a neutral is the only policy, but I beheve they are equally unapimous that the only neutranty likely to be respected, or to give this poe, if ab armed nentral red bet for the purpese of aggrervion, but for the protection of our own shores, Uf Fam aked’ whether Dapprehend any proent fear of invasim. I say mone whatever. 1 b-lieve there Never was a fame when the country was more free From any danger of invasion; bu’ when I we the armies and Seats which other countrics are collecting—armics and fleets which might give them power serivasly to damage this country almct before she hart time to make prepardtion—? tay it is our duly, and one in which Parliament will gladly assist, lo place the defence cf the countiy, expecially us mity, in @ postion commensurite with” the magna tude Cf the interests involved. Without wishing to cast apy imputation or make avy charge on apy body, I must say that when we cucceeied to power wi jound the pevy mn a state of weakness, decrepitade apd absolute impotence. Oa a former occasion, whan com paricy the state of the army i 1852 and 1863, T paid the change reflected ihe greatest credit on those’ concerned but T raid nothing of ube pavy; and if any noble lord wali take the trouble to lock at @ partiamntary pape, the re- suli of the inquiries of @ secret committee appiinted Ly me ty inquir fo the comparative state of the British and joreign mavies, he will cee matter for very serious considera tom. Twill not go inte tbe details, bat I betieve that, io face of ail this, the proposal of government wil) not meet with a distentient voice when Wo ask the House to ratify what we bave done in increasing the naval force beyond the amount sanctioned by Paritsment; and I am aure | may repent the words of her Majesty's’ saeech, “1 rely with ccpfidence on your cordial concurrence in thie pr cautionary measure of defongive poliey.”? My lords ue bo amendment bas been moved to the addrese, I feel | Ought rather to apologise to your lordships for baying de taived you so long. this may probably be an important festion of Parliament. Tecan ooly say sey that if in the ussion of this week it should tarn out not Jesty’s present govervment does not pos sees the covfidence of the country, but that that which noole turds oppositejand the right bonerabie geutieman in anotber place think they have ascertained tg correct, that they porters ibe confidence of the country to such an ex. tent as wil! enable them to carry on the business of the count: y; and if the rerult of the debate tn the other honse be to displace us and substitete a purty which can ¢i charge the executive and legitletive functions more eff cientiy, leap only gay I bail down, with far more plea:ure than I took it up, the heavy reeponsibillty wich Dow prcsees On me; und, us far as & sense of public daly wil allow, Lwilgive them u cor) support ia the dit charge of their duties. But if,omthe other hand, as I condently avticipaie, it should ‘turn ont by the yots of the House of Commons that we posers the confidence of ® wojority, | bail with eatisfaction the aasurance of the noble Earl that we will pot be met with any factious op- porition. Itrust that if dapger does threaten ug, and if interests are at steke, all sense of party wil! be loat in a cordial co operat jor to Beoure the blessings of peace, or )f unfortunately it should CeRBATY to FuppOrt oUF country ip arms, (ben to maintain by arms the influence, power and orty of Great Brian, Covers.) After a few words from Lord BrovGHaM the address wap rurced to. ‘Their lordehips then adjourned at a quarter past eleven. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SreakeR took the chair at one o'clock, and ihe interval thet eiapsed between that time and the summons to the House of Lords was employed in swearing in the few members who still remained unaworn, At half poet two Mr. Pulman, Yeorao Usher of the Black Rod, came down Witb the usual message, wad the house headed by the Speaker, proceeded to the House of Peers to hear the royal epeerh. The Louse resumed at a quarter to four o'clock. The Speaker paving read her Majesty's speech, Mr. Encurton moved the address, which was ag usual an affirmatory respoose to the speech. Sir J. Exrninetuye aeconded the motion, The SPRAKER baying put the question, AMPNOMENT 10 THE ADDRESS—=THE MARQUIS OF HAITING TON'S #PERCH. The Marquis of Hannincrox, who was loudiy cheered, said tbat in moving an amendment to the address, he was not acting without a precedent. In i84i the governmet’ of Lord Melbourne, having been defeated by an excved ingly small mujority, dissolved Parliament, and appealed to the country on the ground of confidence. On the firs. night of the resgion afer the meeting of the new Pari). ment, en amendment was made to tho address by \/.. Scuart Wortley, with the ganction of the late Sir Robert Peel. That emendment was in theshape of an addition to the adareea, and expreeacd the opinion that her Majesty's then Ministers did not possese the confidence of the Honso of Commons, and it was to an amendment of a similar character that he proposed now to ask the house to an. ent, (Opposition cheers) When tho miviste:s of that day ccmbatted the motion on the ground of their genera) measures aud private policy, they did not ofter any opposition to it on the grovad of its naconatitutionsl pature, or of its being an undue tuterference with the prerogative of tbe Crown, and he did not therefore anticipate any objection to his motion on either of these grovads. Neither could be imagine that tbe government would compiuin of the course that they (the opposition) were taking, for the issue they wero put- Ung to the Hovse was simply that which the governmont themselves bad pot to the people, and which it becamo the ropreeeptatives of the people to answer. (Hear, hear.) The government bad not dissolved Parliament on any par- Ucular measvre. They did not complain that they were aot supported in their foreign policy, but they simply put tho ivsue to the country. They said—for two sensions wo bave eodcavored to carry on the business of the country , ret being able to go into the lobby upon any contestid party cvision witb a majority, apd they eaia in “such a Position it was no Jopger consistent with our own digaity or the Gignity of tbe country that we shouid continue to occup! and they dissolved Parliament in the hope that the country would convert their minority into a majority. He trusted that the challenge which had thus been thrown down, and h they (the opposition) could not but meet, would be accepted at ube close of the debate by both par- (ies ino spirit. of fairness and houor, For himself ho could #ay—and be believed be spoke also the sentiments of almost every member on that side of the house, when be guid—that if they were defeoted in this amendment they would readily and willingly vow to the cecision of the House. (Hear) They would then know their posi- tion, and would bo satisfied that it would nut be for aem- bers en that (the opposition) eide of the house to aspire to guice the councils of the country; but while they exer: cred that vigilance and watchfuinesa Which it was the duty of the oppotition to exbibit, they wouid give vo the government of the day, 60 far as lay in their power, we vedivid dé support of the House of Commone in the com- plicated ene difiicuit relations they Would have to oarry on with foreign conntries, (Hear, hear ) He contended that it was not a fair course for the government, after having been beeten op the Reform Dill, to treat the resolution as a vote of generai Censure, and on that ground 10 appaal to the country. (Sear, hear } He though they Sagtt to have stated whether they abided by the principles of thelr Reform bill or not Tt was trifling with the subject to take up the bl, and then, in order t avoid & pleags, abandoa it mitogether, and lowve it to the cbapier of chances whether they would submit to tae now House of Uom- mous avy Reform bill or not. (Hear) He did sot wien to go into the question of ‘foreign policy before the papers promised were jsid on the table; but es far as ho knew it was impossible not to think that there bad been eome mismeanage- ment of cur foreign policy, England ut the beginning of ‘bis year occupied us proud @ poeition &# any country ever heiv—ehe wes ae powerful as ever, and at peace with the Woole world; and he conid not but think that it was an Object of the greatest importance avd Rolicitnde on the pert of every nation in Europe to retain the frieudslip of ‘Yglend, Wogiend was tn # porition to speak with power to ai] vations, and tt waa. impoesibie to believe that if she bud fo rpoken the war would not bave broken out, At OLY rate} wea sullicient for the present purpose that the pha of the government, that they were indispensable to the peace of Inrope, had utterly failed, and thas their con- uct i tho past bad not beeneveh as 10 inspire confidence in th: an for the future. No one bad heard with more satia- faction thon ke that the goverament inianded to pre- ferve the nentrality of th country; but it ehould be re- membeted that tho wor right spread in Europe, and com: Piications would aries, su M Would Require all te pri dence and all the maga y of tho best statesmen to quide ibis county safely rongh such @ state of things. The foregn poire, the government bad pot en N as to be @ to sliow them to ask thas the Judgment which | Hoven wat avous §) pase on ther domestic polio hould be stayed. He might per- bape be expected to uch shortly ou whet migbt be the Sopeequencee of & « Cesgiul meus t this amentment (Bear, bear.) He had no Coubt tbat they on that side would be twunted in the pate wilh the divisions whiod of late bad existea in ther party, (Loud mwmisterial cheers) It was vot for him to tell the House what ar- ((0u0 miomreria) avd coun Janghter)—or whut sacrifices wey oo bis pce were veaey to moke, (Winis'erial cheers, laughter and loud counter cheors’) He believed toat toe House would jearn in the courte of the debate tbat the different erchone Of the great hberal party were pot 0 divi led as Mey bad been, (Cheers) They had learued & es-on (Irovical cheers and laughter) The ere of the different sechons of that par y were pre: ed lo co operate for the good of the country. (heer ord jronieal cheers.) Perbeps, alto, biaides learning & iepon from ac vernity, they Pad learped @ learon from gen Semen op the otber tice, (Hear, bear) They on bis side somired the compact phalanx opposite, Dut they did not foot certam (hut there were bo. tb tbat party ato diff r- ences Of opinion abd princips—(‘“hear’’ avd cheers: far greater thap apy divmon in (soe 0 mor) rapke; the latter beimg only 0 ences, B cpmicn, of detat, (Loud cheers and counter cheers ) He mast say that the prospects of success, and the probability of forming a stuble and firm Liberal government from Wat side of the house, were niwy ouch as lo give nim every com kdivice in moving hus amendment. He should 06 wd, 20 doubt, that thie Was & psrby movement, Be actuitted that it was a party movement ebecr® and counter ebeer (Hear, hear ) (Micigterna Be admitted that to the FED! Cries Of Our domeetio aud fore gu affairs he would e) have the party ip office which, #bile iL represented fuily avg exact.) the thous bts and jeelings of ali educated clatter of Kugland— (great laugater ano ironical cheering from the witneteriat Bs ard great coouter cheering) — hed aiways becu the conristent supporters of every mew sure of progrees and reform. (Hear, hear) He would rather see power w their baods than ia thatof @ party whose very Lame and being Was aptagenittic 4 Bll pro gies, (Hear, bear.) He would raiker ee in office at Ubi crisie of foreign alte the ipheritors of the peace apd comirt rier volley of Fox and Grey than those wbo beid the trevitions of that interfering ead ena sieizing policy which was charactereristic of Castleresgh GQ Yitt He admitted that ip this sepse this was a party ment, but he Cenied thatit was undertaken for the FETaDAIZeEMEUE OF aDY Ret ef iDdividuals or of any indi. viewal (Hear.) He bow begged to move that the ‘oliow. ing words be aded to the aodresé:—"* We beg numbly to Submit to your Mujesty that it is essential to the satisfacto VY TesvIt 0} ony den erawons, to tbe securing ‘he success of our ecurciis, ane to the tucilitating the aircharge of the bab fonctions of your M , that your'*s) +ty’s govern ment should possess the confidence of chis House and of the country; and we deem it our duty respectfully to re- Preseze to Your Mojesty that suck contidenoe is not repos. ed ip your Majetty’s present government.” (Loud and lorg coptinued cheering.) Mr. BasBcny feconded the amendment. MR. DISRARLI'S SPEECH The CnanckLuoK of the EXCHEQUER (#hO was greeied witb ioud cheere on bis rising) eaic—T find no tasit with the course taken by the novie lord and his fr) nd think it ove convenient for the public service and uavan tegeous to the country, especially in the state in which it at prevent finda itself. Ttit a great advantage thot we sbeulé know whetoer the advieers of ber Majcs'y possess Whe confidence of Pariiament, and we bave given the most salistactory evidence of our teeing on that head by taxing fuch a step as advie'ng ber Majeety to dissolve the late Parlement. But Ll must observe, in passing, that, as the robie Jora bas taiked of the prececent of 1641 as bemg deLtical with the present state of thi and the position of mipisters, I think shat the noble lord, ov examuation, wil) find that there is in fact a great difference It is quite true that Lord berby anvieed her Majesty, from a sense of cuty, to dioive the ime Parliament, he having succeed. ed fo office at # tine of great cuficulty, and during tbe exittence of a Parliament ussembied under the auspices of Lis prececeesors anc political opponents, and in woich he counted a small Lumber of supporie: But what was the conduct of the minieiry with regard to the diesoiution ef Variisment ww 84)? Thet-miniswy dissolved @ Partia ment whieb bad been clected under ita own auspices— (bear, hearj—they dissolved a Parhiament composed mainly of tneir own friends; and the resojution whicb Sir Robert Peel felt it 10 be Pie duty to recommend was mov. ed ip the shepe of an amendment on the address on the meeting of the bew Pariment, whick wes authorized by clreumstarces difereut to those waoicb exist at the present moment, and which mei with a different fate to that which ltbmk awaits the emendment of the vobie lord. fe cheers.) It ®as a juet reproach w the min- istry of Lord Melbourne, of which the vovle ford the member for Lonven was’ the leader in this House, that ‘t remained on these benches year after year—for two whole years after 1559, when it recerved ‘a signal ce foot, and tendered its reeignation, m continual bud con- tinved minoritics on ite measures, aud yet it neither ap- peaicd to the country bor resigned; and when i did appeal wthe country, ¢ was from a vole of censure carried 10 its cwn Parliament and by its own supporters. Itie true that #8 regarde tbe goverpment of Lord Derby ite measures bave pot been ruccess(ul; but that is not vory wonderfus when it propoved them to # Parliament not more than one- third of which consisted cf {tg supporters, I doabt whe ther any mearvres, however well matured, and howover admirable in themseives, would be successiul io a Pariia ment £0 constituted. But it is no diggrace that our mea sures have not been successful when propesed to a hos tile Parliament, and it was quite Open to us to appeal to the country. I buve shown tbat the conrae purtued by Lord {Derby was totally distinct to that taken by Lord Melbourne ip 141, avd which has been now appeaied to us a precedent for the course pursued by tbe noble lord. (fear, hear.) But IT repeat, having made these observa- tions wb reply 10 tbe argument of the uoble lord with re- gare to the prececent of 1841, that! find po fault with the course taken by ibe noble Jord. I bave sbowo my sevée of the proceeding of the wobdle lord by 7isibg nvmediately to reply two bis accuse tion, oud I exsure tbe Mouse that I have dove £0 irom a Senge of the importance of the question placed bejore it, aud my desire thactt should rot be ieft for a mowent ib su be It is of we hi that guch a eritical question sbouid be by rising wt once avd meeting the question proposed oy the noble lord, the house will be able to divide to night— (loud cheers)—and so seitie at this momentous crisis Which party ‘ndeod possesees tbe Confievce of Paria met. (‘ Bear’ and cheers) Lentirely reciprocate the septiment of the noble lord apd bis friends, and I under- take for the gebtmen on this side of tbe house, tbat if we are defeated, the government which succeeds ‘is aball receive from Us a fair nd Constitutionas support, At ibs memext there ought not to be a delay of twenty four hours in commg toa aecision on ths qaestion—(ioud cheers)—and as from a repse of duty the novle lord and bis frienes have thought it proper pot to lose a moment tn chailerging the psopsiety of our Occupying these beoches, Tiropiore the bovse to consicer the importance of the question, and not to lose a moment in coming a decision upou tt. ( Hear, hear,” and cheers.) I cannot under. tlapoe why the course which we advises ber Majesty to take eLou'd be cailed unwise and reckiess. There ix uothipg a a Gssolution of Parlioment which the great \iberai party, if ail its sections were agreed (bear, hear)—onght 10 look at with jealousy oud distrust. Ivo pot know if the sections below the gapgwa} — (bear, hear)—w.il say that (requent Giggolutions of Parlement are w be deprecated. That does not imply that distruet in the peopie of which they compiain, avd which I thought was contined to the uncau- cated ciaswes. (Hear, bear, aud Jaughter.) I know thai the poble jord the member Lopcon never hears the pbrace “djssolution of Parliament” without rising to con: oemo jt, and this is consonant wilb the wews of that “educated”? party to which we are indebied for the Se teppial act—(bear, bear)—but 1 aid pot know that all v aec.ious of tut huerai party wero of option that frequent disgointions of Pariiament ase to be considered unwise and reckless. (Heer, hear.) Having dissolved Parivament, I am bsppy to fied thet the nobie lord (the Marquis oi Harlington) ip ihe manly and promising speech which bo bas made—(hear, apd cheers)—has litoived his op tervations with regarc to the Gisselution merely to his cpiwien of the policy of that coaree, aud bas not conde sceDded to intrude the trash op the House of which we pave beard go Much respecting the conduct of the elec- tion—(bear, heur)—of the corruption of constituencies— (bear, bear a compact wiih foreign Powers and terarcbies which hare been gofrequent. (Hear, hear.) Tstate ina manner the most unequivocal und uneqvine- that there has ben no compact of any kind in that quarter; that the support which was given in many instances to members of Wns side of the hentse at the late dection by our Fallow subjects professing the Roman Caitviie faith, was given not only without compact, not only withyut conditions, but was giten without evn communication. (Gdeers ) take itfor granied that :hoee who aupported us then uncer those circumstances, a8 well as other subjects of ner Mojesiy, had formed their own opinion, right or wrong, on pobiic events, op public men, aud on puodlic policy But it is plain enongb that the civi) apd religious lineriy granted to the Roman Cutboiics, especially with the aid of the boble lord, means a civil and religious i'berty to vote for whiga and to Rupport Wore Candidstes, (Cheers and laugtter.) The moiment o British or an irish subject pro fersivg the Roman Carholic religion vous for a tory it is quite clear that the gentiemen opposite meditate even the revival of thove penai laws abcut which we bsve heard fo much. (Hear, hear.) Now, gir, I bave touchea upon two grovada upon which the vote of want of confidence is recommenced to the bovse in the vsual form of an awmeniment on ao acdrees in repiy to the gracious spech from the torone—first of all, that our Measures in mapy instances faiicd in the old Par Lament, which ix a very wood ground why the new Par- nent bas been called; secondly, that we advised her Majcsty to dierolve, which, in the opinion of the pobio lord, was an unwise and reck' sa measure. but which is, in fact, the very question to be decided, What are the other grounds? What bea svbsequeot'y occurred since the distolusion to joatify this emeudment? Sir, it is the couduct of eer fortign affairs, POU OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE WAR. Itepreare (hat the negotiations which were actively goirg om when the late Portiament was distolyed bave proved unsuccersful, and that war between some of tie Powers of Europe bas evsved. So faras I could collect the meaning of the noble lord-—though 1 must say he showed copriderable diplomatic abtlity in the rnadowy manner in which ho affirmed that part of his indictmeat— bot eo far as an srgument or stateinent ad invidiain could show, bis object was to lay some foundation for that vote of want of confidence on the fact that we bad been unsucecesiul in the management of foreign relations, and that the nogotiatiors which were undertaken to avert war kad not ptoserved peace. Well, now, upon that bead two obge:vations occurred to mo. Is the noble lors or are his triea’s of opinion, or are they suspicions, that the coudvet of our forcign selations since ihe commencement of thie year has not beon car- tied om wih ability? Ho basa right to bave that sus- ao bot surely the grounds on which an opinion !s to © formed are those ample document whica lam pow phous imivediately w lay on the table of the Aouse, ty, M8 a party mau, the uodle lord Is not laying it down sea prineple that the maferitr—c majority of bin frieude— should arcicc condyct of o pepowetion Without readine and atu y.og he Govuments which alone cap inform him Wonld too lord say ‘eee ia the only text of ability in negutisvious, aud that a government that hos. fatied In conducting negotia- Lions fo avert war is not worthy of the conddenve of tho country? th that the cre ie Which the nudie ior) would inaist vpon? Tt muat be, for it is we ovly one teft to him Weil, the war which bas recently brokea out in Eu. ope bee been preceded very lately, in ihe Memory oi erory gentemon here, by rnotber war, It was only four years cided, aud I bopo, iv he bad a | NEW YORK WERALD, WEDNESDAY. JUNE 22, 1859.—TRIPLE SHEET. go that a war took piace, net between two of onr allies, Put between this O24Lty and anvsber great military Pow erm Kupem, Were oro . ther? Was Dot the stake ‘gi rerpowembuny prpord nate y ior ared, eres OMF OWD MMMediale aciion tbat wow af wk BD CHDOUCE OP 6 IDeOrtau) question of pese at isnue? Weil, we mere uo! m aistorh then, # HOt Terponsible for there neg niaioee Wax Det the Kovernment of a mivority €b Of IN}ENOF A: Vy, deliceat in exp: leke every Opporturt'y of to ming us you (hink we are © Ube COMLTArY, thas povervment war preeides urer by a febrated Furopeen rtatesman Lore aberdeen. who La Oi Be pareipates' in the # ructure of hore farnoue bree Cote of 1816, of wOICH we have hearc FO rN iMtely. He bre for bis Foreign Secretary # olstiogmithes #tateaman who bed Obed the ligheet «fies and psa Deeo an amber KCOFAG Brest COUris” Teo not know who iB gu sour Foreign Secretery, buy Lord Olereadoa 16 4 very Hosuebee map You tad tap Loros aberdeen Clarendon to CoBduct tows pepOnaL ove, Aad you DIbO7y eleey Why. Mbere war the norte tord, the member fo. Dverten, WO, hike Cordieus ghowed dis woonds yew JePORY WB OL HFOWED Candidute for power; De was in Ub! cabmet The Lovie ord hunself a8 ‘of opuion, wae come of Die fr ieucs too, that Le bas some kpowledy of foreigp afluiry. He takes every opportunity of tot Ning thet be is the oby person who can wage war or Preberve pesce aberdeen and Clarendon bail the abbintarce of the Bebe the member fur Tiverto ay Dodbag shout the noble lord the member tor of Lopden, Deckuse bis experience a& Koreign Sap ole pmited baract aha ‘ fi fey Bremer then, gud toe ik wa Tishow, as yor reiary er Well, what did you do with those negot fo prevent war Between Eoyland an Hope! Phy, the home of those nexotiet ons Nix not yet heen forporien, the Sta'e papers of Vienpa are Dot yet epurely boned CUt of ibe consciousness Of (be peope o ‘bis country, You bad great atvavtages, and y jawe You bee a wijorty ia Parbawer Fad experebeed Bhatekmen; you bad # @uiil greater Stal to pick You }oexervion aud iy Your Fe spocss IY. abd Seb YOU Bere Wert CiRCLMflted in those vege ops, But you bad eomeibeg gore ‘ban we bad, wit! OOF POOr BEALE, 10 preserve peace You tad an oppo-i bon then Which #48 Dimerous oud fairly ambitious; b D (be NACHE OF Your MegouwLions wey did not dre for ward vous OF want of contidence=(ereers, apd exores HONE OF CieKEDS): id they propor cunuing resolution oO embarrass the puble service. We wat there in your pity, sd Mpported you heartily and truly. ‘x bere shy Mev woo can gay vO? 1 defy apy one wv show an Welnee COnbg tbat war ip whicn we drougn lorward # Bibgle WuLioD to embarrass the government, and vlimaely, BLED by your Own miemsbagr ment of the war Jeu fell, te wae by a MowoD Of a member of your own ioe, ara by Votes of teveral sections of toe \ibera per'y. Allow we Low to rpeuk of the intentions of the go VerT DD! WD Tegerd tO the two mala wowice ia ber Ma Jetty 's epeech—our forege policy, aud pariameutary re form The royal speech, apd the address waich nas beer Bieved, Or@:ly Ld Ub quivecaily state our policy. W buve encesvored ip every pormibie mar ner to preserve peace. I rhail be happy apd ready #ben the 1ime ar rives, and when the papers are in the hanes of bonor eble members, Wo roughly to vine icate the eoaduct of the geverpment op that bead 1 challeage inqeiry, an! Lam reacy and pered ev Ddleateour course Ail lack is, thar the Hovee shou ¢ pot decide On & question £0 momentous th the abrence of ali Cocuments, abd when i. ie sbsoluuely imporsibie to kpeak of it tateiactorily [must however Wake ove or two observation’ op this bead, 60 ae to correc! Fome Moet crropecur impressions. Is ® My OV nIOD—« Lay it with ro wish to exter into any Coutroversy on the Fubject—bot ve what I did soy has been aliuced to, Lre tain the epimon | expressed ‘im the late Par iamnent, tbat the vote to wh eh the house arrived on the motion of the novte lord bad # xerious influence et that moment upon our negotiaiions. i shallbe apieto prove it. I would, Ob!y iD vir cication Of ma) self, touch upop one point ip iL urtration of his, J eaid then, and I repeat uow, that vou destroyed all aviberity op the part of the goveroment of this country io condvchng tbe pegotiations, Wut it did not degtroy all the itfluence with the Emperor of the Freech wt that moment, becarse aithough, as the mere govern ment ot Kvgiand, we bad so authority, we ata repre tent @ priveipe which greatly jeted the con. Guct ond ifluenced the feelings of the Emperor of the French, RESPECT OF THE FRENCH EMPEROR FOR YUPLIC OPINION. The Btmporer of the French was yrerned at that moment, ond had been, and 1s constantly, ly public op The ganion of Pvance was against the war; the oynnion of Eng: land, which he estermas ondy less than the opinim of France Was Oyainst (he war; the cpiniom, J moy cay, of enlightened Fiartpe was ogoinst the war, ADAG tierefore, alibough our auibority #8 wipistry bad ceased, rtill, representing that pribeipié of pube opivlon which toe Enaperor of the French Fecophized, Our reprecentaucke were Ftill listeued to with Tespect on that £udj-ct, end Bovwitbstanding the voto the Heure bed arrived at, we sull coud influence, as we bave influenced, the conduct of the Emveror, Bucas re gare Austria, {ror which weliuer the Dobie lord bor our- FelVes aDLCIp»ated at that Moment immediate miechief, Aveta js BOL at Bi iniuepeea by pubic opinion, With Austria we miray cused to have any authority, being a grvervmens condmnd; and Austria tabored under the comviction=no dub Gn untounded conviction, but which had an immediate fect on her—ihat cur immediate sucecs Bors, Whivver they Might be, would be @ ministry favorable tothe war—a war derected uyainst herself. Therefore Aus- tria, perplered by that vel, and not caring any lmger for the infiuence «f the English ministry, who were Wokea. upon as a dead tody, and caving nothing for that wsiucnce of pub Licepinion which still x fiuenced the comduct of the Emperor of the Frawh, Austria wok that rach and wnjwetryfiable xep which everyicdy must condemn. ‘The statement, toerefore, which I made Will turn Cut in the discussions on tals mat ler to bave been perfectly authentic. Allow me to notice one more powt. It has oeen charged against me thet on the eve of the dissoiution I imade a etatement us t© the ccnciiep and prespects of the negotia- wtion®, and expressed an oppion which was stil) favorable, potwibstanding ibe immenge difficuitice then scknovledgea, to the chances of peace veing preserved when we Were on the eve of war. Now many nembers bere will recoilect that evenmg. [tio oap- pened that ibe Very moment before Lrose to make that ptatement, a telegraphic despatch arrived from Lora Cowley, Which was immediately seni to me in the house, Nntorming ns thet the £1 pe or Of the Frepeb had entirely adopted the prciple of dixarmament before ibe Con- aress, which was the ore which Austria had insistea upon ap the fovucation of & saualactory settiement; aod pot only tbat, but that Count Walewski bad at that moment telegraphed 10 Sardinia, urging them ip a manner wach As be expressed it, they could Dot resist, Lo accept the Some principle. Now was not] justified i assu House thet there was sul) a prospect of peace, was from France and Saran fearea? So much was) ju day a telegraphic despatch arrived from Sardiwia accept. ing thet proposition Which we bad been assured it was im- poreible for her to refuse, (Cheers.) What now is the courre which, With Lo discred't or ciabonor to Engheh counciis we have pursued? We bave adopted the prin- ciple of a etrict apd impartial neutraliy We bad en ceavored to act in the spirit of that principle J treat with uiter contempt, because J feel % would be impossible fer a shadow of prof in us favor, the monstrows statement that, ‘nihe course we huve adopted, and wm the councils we have n, ve have ever hed ether an austrian or @ French vias, and J b lieve that the sincere feelings even of bth these Fowers, writoied es Uvy must be vy the positvm in which duy Jind themsives, is toao us cumplete justice wpm that sulject. But of courze, though a policy of strict and im. barval neutra ity if Gemended by the interests of this country, #nd J am sure ig sanctioned by the pubiic voice, we bays felt it our duiy to piace the sovereign of this covptry, by the commend of the gea, and by the comple- tion 0! ber armaments, in sich a position that ber authori- ty Will be feit. aud full recognized. But I maintain that yp there increased fleets and armaments we have not the Ipeicauons of coming war, but a probable security for coptinued and renewed peece, because, watching events, excovragDg and fostering still among all those Powers Gierd y relations, and watching for the right opportunity we way interfere with other neutral Powers, at tno right moment, and obtein at a date much eariicr than, I Wink, i6 too bastily adopted by the world, the rebewa! aud restoration of that great blessing to which, from the exper‘ence of the Inst half century, tbis country is more devoted than in former day; bat is our policy. Ido not suppose any one will ct lenge tt on principle; aod ag to cur conduct, end the means by which that principle should be appried, I again repeat that it is Only by the examination of the evidence which will be laid before you that you can form an ade. quate opinion. Notwithstanding the party charecter of this amendment, againet which I do not protest, J cannot beheve that a want of confidence will be arrived at when the cocuments have not yet been laid cefore the house, to which, ib ber Mejesty’8 gracious speech, the attention ot Parlisment is called, VARIJAMENTARY REFORM. [ will now turn to the subject of Pariiamontary reform, ond I wil) at once say that it ie the opinion of her Ma jesty's government that it ie quite impossible during tho Jwesent scesi0n to Geal with that subject in a satisfactory mapper. (Hoear.) T take no refuge in ambiguous phrases. If tt be the optnion of grave and responsibie staicemen that in the present concition of the country, in the menth of June, with measures of finance before us of the greatest character, with measures before us connected with the defences and armaments of the country, we can enter into any reekleas eogugement to deal with the question of Parliamentary reform, I shoil be actovighed. But if they take that course, I myet ask the bouse to join issue and give a decision which IT trust will be tem perea and covnsetied by good sense. But aithougo that is the course with regard to the present session which we recommend the House to adopt, wo do not in any degree with, es advisers of the Crown, to shriok from the responsibility of dealing with that question. No, eir, I wvetsey, af 1 bave said before, altnourh it did oftend the robe Jord the member for we city, that J can- pot admit thet the queeticn of parliamentary reform, or any great question that ought to be deait with tn this country, ebould ve pert and parcel of any political mono- poly. (Cheers.) Ido notrecogrise the convenient dog- ma that i now ctreuiaced, that great questions wterestiag ibs county, and eBpeciaily tke Comestic condition of its country are to be tanched and treated culy by oxo particu #1 favored eeclion, even aliboogh it be the edu- cated section, (Cheers and inughter.) I thivk that sec tlow of tbe Lberal perty wbo are not ihe eiucated section Lave chown riuch m re aincerity thaw tie cducated sce tion \hemeelves. (Laughter) But I contend that wo bave o full and fair right to deal with the quos. ten; and phat 8 more, sithough I will not in- sist upon it, I beheve thataaa party we cen deal with it to more advantage than even the educated nection. (Cheere ) Now, sir, I neod not vindicate, by comparisca, the meamprer of noble lord and tho measure which ber isajesty’s gcvernment introduced during the last eession of Parliament. Bot I must say this, that ner Ma jesty’s government do not consider themeelyes bouad in the measure which they coptemplate pronosing—they ‘lo not consider themselves bount by the measure which they brovgh! forwsid in tho last Parlement any more than the ncb's lord conriders himeel! bound by the mea- sures which be bes brought forward in former sessions. Sbeers.) ‘The subject» one of immense difficulty, and I Thibk it Was ap exicp ion to the usualy tomperste and consible remarks of {h° uoble lord when he seemed to Cepy i) at Pavitwmenta:y reform could be a compromize Leiweon coneervative and iiborei opivious. Now, I think that no darlLamentary reform can be passed or ough to be persed which is kot w comprom’se bet Feen conterva, tive avd liberal opinions, (Hear, hear.) Ail we want ts to ageure Ourecives (hat avy mensure wo bring forward is required by a puro necessity, aud will be sarctioned by public approbaticn. Theretore, we are perfectly prenared to deal With the borcugh fapobigse and the introduction of tho Working clagacs, Lot in the manner we anid, but by Joweriug the franchigo in boroughs, (Cheera.) as I tS 2 eS a as ee Ree RBar a SAA ae Ree: BI ers ventured to oe rve in the debate oa tha mes if you elena \bat Working CASES BOYUIS exerore the pewenive by of jowerrg the rullrage oa boroogbe JOU Bist Dot keep Ube promise to the ear and Dreak My be hope Tr murs Dev ope |B & MobNEr which Bets a 1) y ahd Comylewly effete sour OPjeot, and you must do it MOON) COLA BE WD (De Mmalpweamnre OF Ube tn. ituhon® of ire couny. (Chee) Not merely wite repard to the borough franenite, uct merely with regart Lo We enllyeae oF we working ¢ he wha'e quersion of the @teribe Leukd by she proporinen we mace ‘ast Sear Buy more reo the bebe era fe hound by hie overs! prepositions beer) We best for the country, ia var opinion, thas neeeviee! Parliomentars reforw sould be broughe for Were OF Ee con NEO M Character ae DawAD Crea mean” Siilacmtet, To ootem tnat charecier it must meet he fei Qiinaucs Whi bh @e pow ree 0, and won be of the generat elect a wun the sable manceen In whatever ¢ 6 Dilment Moy Le deve Oped respecting Diy wiewxurea— of course [do OV £0 Int apy Otel), Tor FO mer sure Das yet been Brough’ fore (he DoOteee Fehuto for the KOVerDeDt the Might te eal wb the queston of Parliamentary reform unfetvered sof onbemppered with be propositions of last seasion, in the fome WAL NET as Ube BODIE lord, Dus in & large, liberal conolveive manner, (Hear, bear.) 1h “ ¢ 1 tone upen ail (he ponte op waited the noble tor e Inember for Levonebire, has founded bik vole of wan confarvce. Tth ok Tbave shown the house that ev are very flimsy, feeble aud iitixory—tnat be bas not eDLETCd IHL THOKE Cr taue, HOF extablehed those prigci jle#, winveb could Jubily e ue® Partiamea) in Coming & 0 pra ion (Hear, bear.) 1 bave ventured w Osbt ODt to the Huuke the pric pies upon wh fore pM abe domenve 4 hed POley, BOtWithelandng wh: ried, will AvlL be ©d OD peace ## the great priueipie we mean to eu 22; aLd UF Comertic policy apoo the priveiple oc progeew®, (Cheere) These are the principles upc which our poliey will rect, apd we ask from the Ley Hevre of Commons noihing bub # c vetitutional consi eee. INFLUHNCK OF THE GREAT FAMILY FRDEKAIIONS ON THE PUBLIC BEKVICR. No doubt it is much to be regretted that from the disic cation Of parties m this country, and the peculiar rtate of ings Which have Otaned uv toi House, te srea of we +etion for the public service is far more timited thao I for ene could desire But it 1 not the favit of parties who fil these benckws. Whatever may be the faaite and errors of the tory party it je nots federation of great fami wee, (beers ) The government of Lord Derby, whatever = fault, Was LOt gstablizbed upon an exclusive basi Wherever there was ability it was recognised, aad if coud Hot be piaced mposiious which they were compe lect Le fulfil, every ove On there benebes i couscious tha: Qe Were preferred because they were thought to be weortby of the cfiices which uney were called upoo & fil (Cbeers.) If there is no grounc tor beheving that there © WED wore competent to carry op tbe allairs oa that side of the Bouse, aud to take onr piace, aud that if it be the fact that en tis side of the House there is a difti- culty in bringwg more competeut men forward, I am not’ eure the House will gam much by the return, 1p epy cembisation and spy form, of the uoble lord and the right benorabie gentioman to th's aide of the Toure (Cheers and mogbier), J hare teen with satisfac tien the tenaency +f the hiuse to snerease the sea of selec tim Jor the public service The more you » tile the contro verted questions which have for years embarrased and cm tattered the house, the mwre you will remove (he obetactes to Char great result. “Uf the question of parliamentary reform were settled, (he extension of the 6 of selvtion would be greatly tevecsed. YT hope the house wil not hastily adopt 4 eMEnCMmeDt, Which bas come {rom one who, although Iwich to speak of bm with al) the respect which bis Teech loright deeerves, repreecots exacty that limited eno exclusive party which bar practically made the fede roticu Of great fatuilies the only socree from which the yeblic service is supplied. (Cheers), The coarse which bos been taken tonight ip a too eager one. I think it would have beep ag well if hovoradie gentiemcn had poured and taken another occasion upon which wo address the Gown, But I do not complain of the course they bave taken upon this ground, It ws of paramount importance ov thir roment that the decision of the house abould not be deinyed. Case Tspeak with the most solemn com yicvon of the truth of what I am statog. It ts of paremount and vitel importance that the decision of this house sbauld net be delayed, if possibie, twenty four bours. (Cheers aud laughter.) Why should you seek-to delay it? The ixgue acer. Does Lot everybody in the house fuliy comprehend i? It is not merely for the aa vantage of tbe public eervico—it is for tbe advantage of ekugcom, for tbe best interests of the crown, for tbe Ft iDteresis of Europe, that the question should de sei- ted, Bnd settled immediately. (Cheers {f it is decidea sgainet us I shall aecept the decision without a murmur. It Leit upon the benches opposite Tehali give to my suc- cersurs. and lem sure my colleagues will do the same, and I thirk I cep answer for thore who bave honored us with their copfaence, that we sball give to our succes: Jopg a8 they pursue a copsitutiona) course in vd 1D foreign wffuirs, that support which every party 16 prepared end ready bo give to the minetry of the couptry Ib moments of erucrgency. But if, ou the ower hand, thepew Farlameii is of optpion that the amend. Ment that bas been brought forward to-night ie one that ie Jart oF justified, on us will remain, both as regards our domesho, but cepeciaily a3 regarce the-management of our fore gb relations, a8 great a weight, as grave a vuty, #8 awiv) & PespoDBibility as ever Gevulved upon the shoul Gere of aby goverbmert; but from that duty and from that respepsivility, however grave aod however power. fu), we co notebrink. (Loud ana prolonged cheering ) Lora Bury seid that Lord Derby, on the 19th of april, faio thatit wer broke out, whatever might be the conse. quences, Our peutrality as long as it jastes ought to & cer- ‘Vain extent to be an armed beutrality, enabling us to take ‘our part on tbat side, whicbever it might be, which the hovor and the dignity and the imtereet of this country mipbi indicate as best deserving ovr support. a man ‘who, while be professed to acvocate weutraiity, ustered such words as (bose might easily be supposed to entertain grave doubts whetber the m. : poesible; aud be did not wituk that our neutrality was io be entrusted to Buch & map. Aticr @ few brief remarks from Mr. Mellor and Mr. Koatchbuli Hogepen, SPEECH OF STR CRATITS NAPIER. Sir C, Narner aid be was about to speak of what was far wore important than the squabble between the t¢o par- bes, obd that was the defences of the country. (A laugh.) He Was glad to ind that the government was about to cairy Out the recommendations of the commission for mapping the pavy. Be gave the goveraweat credit for putting tbe vavy ip a better state than they found it when they acceded 10 cffice; but they had taken a very jong tmetothipk of it. The First Lord of the Admiralty haa acmitied tbat he received three waraings from the Sour. veyor of the Navy before be began to sur atal!, and be beheved Sir W. Symours had given a farther warning before the right bonorabie genteman began to move. I tbe rgbt bonorable gentieman has begun to put the navy ob & proper 110 ing Wben be Oirst came iato oifice it would be ww a lar better ctate of preparation tban it was now, We bad now ten eail of the lie in the Mediterrenean, properly mapbed st be belicyed; tep More at home, and two put in commission the other day, but there latter were nos by apy jmeaus fully manned. ‘He was disappointed that the seamen bad pot come forward to volunteer for the rogai bavy under the prociamation, All that had come in in covsequence that proclamation be believed was 4,006 men, though there were many seamen wanting em- poymient. Bur the fact was that ‘hey bad a prejudice ogavstthe Bavy. Of the 3,000 which had entered he be- heved only about seven per cent was received. He sug- #€8 cd tbat a proclemation should issue, that, in the event of a war tukipg place, those seamen who had entered be foro the recent proclamation raising tbe bounty sbould alo receive the £10 bounty, He thought it was most im. portent that they sbould show to the seamen tbat they would receive 14)! juatice in the navy of this couatry, He beiteved at this moment that France bad ve great a force in commission as we had—at all events, ho cailed ou the First Lord of the Admiralty, who woud be able to tell the nouse whetber France could maa the ships she bad in the tarbors as weil as thoge which were im commiss op—see- ing that the late First Lord had told the house that France could at apy moment man all the ebips in ber harbors Be bad no fear of our fleet in any emergency if tt was properly manned. 1t was due to the couutry, to the officers commanding the fleets, ond to the men themselves, that the slips shouid be efficiently manned; and he hoped they Would bave a jentisfactory explanauon on that point. TIbere was a Rossin fleet in tne Baltic, and that there was an understanding between Ruseia and France wos weil known. We ought to know also, therefore, what was the force Rusaia could bring to bear, added to that of France, in the event of the complications on the Continent bringing the fleets of those two countries into upited action, and whether we had a force equal to the two together. We had in the Naval Brigade and Coast Velupteers men sufficient to man twelve ships of the line; but what be complained of was that we had no ships to put them in sbould an emergency arise. There was an opinion that the French were sot good saliors, and that the French ebips were not weil officered. 4s a proof to the conirary be referred to the rapidity with which the shtpe of the French pavy conveyed we troops from Mar- geii}es to Genoa the other day, disembarked them all in per- tectorder, and in afew hours were on their way back again to Mareetiies. A better proof of the eflictency of the sbips, ip all respects, coutd not be afforded. He warned the gov- erpweLt sgarpet allowing our ficet to fali into such 4 stato as not to be abie to meet a force es efficient a8 that of Frence, He suggested that the men iu the biook shi, ehould be transferred to eflective screw ships; and if he ‘was told there was pot such ships ready, thea be said that great biame wos (ue to the Admiralty. We ought to have as ‘arge a force in commission, and fuily maaned, as Frarce apd Ruesia combined. Wr. J. Witson boped the neutrality which we mesnt to preserve Would pot be such as might be inferred from a speech mace by the Soiucitor General for Ireland in the jsei Parlinment, when be censured the pobdie lord (Pai- mersten) for not baviog supported a proposed settiement ‘by whieh Venice woule be left under tho Austrian domi- nion. Ke hoped ne British government would now be a party to euch @ bargain, or induce Venice to give up any advadtagcs of freedom which sbe tight bave an opportu pity Of Wiping, i order that Lombardy or any othor pert Of Italy should purchase liberty at that price. With vegeTO te epotber topic, it bad been suggested that this govervment would be able to carry a reform bid turouga ihe cther Houre of Parliament, which another govern: ment might rot be abdle to co. He protested, however, Bgainet iis being said in the House of Commons that the bros had #0 jow a@ view of their functions and doty as to be willing to carry & measure proposed by one set of men which they would not agree io if proposed by anoiber, ap¢ that they wovid do this merely for the sake of keep'ng the former eet in office, Bir, Dieny Swvatour refused to give an unfair and fac- tious vote sgeinat the government, who now stated that they were preparcd with a substantial measure of reform, vmiets the Lobie lords (Palmerston and Russcl!) would explain upon what great and broad principles they claim- ed bis support. . Mr. Laing could not help thipking tbat a change of min istry wou!d be likely to entcriain that alliance OF 900 understanding with France which bo believed to be the keytione of the Permanent pesos of Li snd easen- Jia) to the true interests civilization. He therefore could pot hesitate to follow bis old icaders on the Old principies of reform, poace and nou-intervention. (Cheers LORD PALMERSTON’S SPRRCB. Lord Paisxrston, Who was received with cordial cheer- ing, seid:—Sir, 1 think ff apy man could doubt whether the motion omy noble friend, calling on the House to ex prets their want of confidence in the goverament, be jus tiled by tbe situation ef the goverament, tne course of e debate this evening would a hit the most conciu sive proct that i isso justibed; for how ean the Honee have confidence in a government apd a party who have 3 nO confiderca in themselven? and laughter.) jlow can (he Bouse pave covfdence ip the government of “perty who boastiog a they do of their numbers, sot Ded more thaw One advocate who will dare to orward 00 thin ecard, M0 far ag the dedate bat as 5 primcreded, 40 deleud their caUre, ald whowe sileace upoR \him Goenrion is Dike leting judgment go against Je uuite (oneer DO iw the most conclusive evowal (bas Lory are bot ceterviog of the confidence of (tae House? (Cheers) Sir, Ladasit that if one coacyion ove Was Wo Hebe their hettle—ii the rest of the army were so (im dor co werk obd poweris+s Ubat (hey coud oot dare to euler {be arena—tley made ® good chojoo in ther champ.on. St Key ma dextra defenai pore, a) dours the right anand of the Chancelior of the Kxe have neon ent Bvt thore #0 beard toy 0 ebequer must bave felt that if the ¢ had nowbing had breu Buved, that speech, cloquertas t wus, and fail of ugreeabie j and diegteeanie re fleo'ions upon ona sor avoiter, was wholly torufficient On {bis oceamoa to meet the Biobon which bad been made by wy vobie friend se #D'Y. nU £0.well Feconded vy the hogoraole menber fr Miedierex JT must eay thet I thing tthe moet extra Cro Dary spectacle tha bas ever cocurred in the history of Par\iament thet # government, charged ip the face of Porliament as being urdeaerving of the confidence of Par- JaMeDi sd of the couniry, Fhould have mut silent as they have cone on thie occasion, (Hear, hear.) You would have thought that map aiter tnan *onld have risen oo that side, thatewen the few remaining memoere of tho Aner, Cekerved Lough ibey be oy two of kceir most re- spected rd Cietigguibed Colleagues, would still nave creeped forward with gress omulation 10 defend and jus- fy the Concuct whieh if arraigned by the movion of my nonle friona. (Tneers,) sir, iM eeems tnat they ara mort epriovg to conclude this debate. They entreat tae Houte tw take them upoo trcet, for argument we bave out been called ufo 10 bear (om them; they have povbing to say for the meelver, except, “For Heaven's sake, let the ietute be ne sbort ux possible; let us come toa division to nigbt, for we bave got our friends up, (Langoter.) Do Bot lak Shout Our CONdUCt—=the loe® Said about it the bet ter, f Bake do DOL discuss oUF motives, but od then afterwarcs, if we bave the Y, you Invy talk about them as much as you vke?’ “(Cheers and laugnter.) Well, this is a very xrave matier to be dieposed of fo that highs and airy manner. The question is, whether the adminisvration of ce of the greatest! countries in ue world \B or i not Gcrerving of the confdence of Parttament and tbe country? That is not question at any time to be Cealt witb m tbat ligbt and easy maover ia which it is Geait with by the genticmen ec the other side; bat least of alia that queetion to be the flames of war ere raging in furope; wdea no man leein certain Bow far thie country may of may oot, aader. the guidance of ihoee who at prevent rule, be involved in 1, Peay, when great European inierests, aud great Bridah eh pavcnal Mtererts are at stake, | think it # disgrace- ful lor @ govercment to decline Be)l vindication. (Cheers.) Now, Leay that upon every ground the Houge ought to come W the vote that ts proposed. [ thiok the maaser im hich the goverpment was formed, [ think the course b the government bave pursued, I think their mis- takes and cefanite in Gomestic legisiation, [ think their +r10re 1D ‘oreigo pohey, I think the course they took ‘op regard to the dissolution, | thiuk upon all these grovp’e the House w justified m withaolding from them that confidence wiihout which a goverument can- not and ongbt not to exist, (Cheers) Sir, do wos like to revert of neively to the eygnts conn cted with the forma- hon of tbe goveroment; bat upon this occasion | must speak out. Tsay they came into ciliee by a parliamenta- 1Y Man@nvre— (cheers)—by a marcuvre justitied, per- hape, by tbe ordinary tactics of party, bat waich was not a foundation upon which they could ciaim the eonfidence of the covpiry. There were @ certain number—I ocliere ueoriy one hundred members—of the liberal party, wbo iflered with the goverrment then in regard to that bill ageinst conspiracy to murder. 1 jamented that they took #dilierent view from that wDich the government had adopted, but they bad a right (o take that view, and with the opinions which they entertained they performed a public uty by voting against the introduction of that bill, But ‘what was the conduct of the gentlemen oppo- Fite? Did they disapprove of that measure? Did taey pot, on the cobtrary, in this house aod in ihe other bouse, urge the geverbmentto bing it forward—and did they not, on the motion for the ictreductign of the bill, to ® men vote with the government for inyiog that Dill upon the table? (Cheers.) Then afterwarda, when they eaw a civieion in the hiberal party—when they found that « terge portion of she hiberals opposed Use measure— then, yiclairg to that dreire for office which T do not in iirelf blame, but #bich they should pot make a reproach to those who May now oppose them, they abancoued their own opipin--(Gear, hear)—they ‘voted against a bill which they hao represented to be necessary for the honor ot the country and for the maintenance of & good under- standing With a great bewhboring country, and by that re tbey cbtatued office. (Hear, bear.) "Weil, then, I , thelr origin was bad. (Cheere.) It was no! Creoitab'é fo them as @ party, and they onght, I think, to have felt more gratitnde than they bave at different times: expressed jor the forbearance with whicti thore who were driven into oppoaition bave abstajzea from tw tting them with these circomstances, (Hear, hear.) Then, when they bad got ip in thet way, what wa: the conduct of the gertemcn on this sive? Did we heraes them with any ‘vexatious and factious motions? On the contrary, they pro- fetzed to etand ma minorny in the House of Commons; whop the noble lord (Derby) came in, be admitted in his lace ip the House of Lorcs tbat the government of which «was the head was supported only by a minority in this honee: and if the gevernment under thuse circum- stances bave been abie to support its exisvence go long, tuat simple fact 1a propt tha: ibey bave been treated with forbesrsnce, (Hear, bear.) A government stand- ing So capnot by poesibiiity pureue their own course or Act vpON their OWD opinions. But, at jeast, when such a governmcni Co acopt measures Which they take up in Geferepes to the eppion of the majority, they ougnt, if they be a government geserving oy their capacity the copiidence of the counuy, to frame measures wien will carry pio cDeet the great principles they bave adomed cir 0 Dts ih & manner acceptable to pablic preseat government Crot aieesure of iegislation—the tierly and entirely faiied. Thea they bad to uber great question—Parlismentary reform, Ovt of Cfiice tuey #ore oppores vw the catrying Of a mea- sure Which, in olfloe, they undertook to propose. But bey preduced @ measure which pot eve maa out of the’ Cabinet thought deserving of being parsed into a law. (Cheers) There was bardiy » member on the ciber #.de of the house who did not God favit with the Wesevre At last came the resolution proposed by my noble friend, wbich wes calcniated to reiress two at least Of the teadiog detects of the messure. That was carried by a majority suflicient to prove tat tbe bill could not be carrica through 18 different eteges. There was a second failure in regard to an important matter of domestic legia- lation When I see @ government in the course of twelve montbe trs ing their bend at two important measures, in both of which they faied, think it 18 not assuming too much to say that itis not a government in which the Houge can place confidence im regard to jegiwiation at home, (Cbcers.) Many things Lave happened which clearly thow that whatever oiber gifts the Dyin mang might possess, they did not porsess the gift pr '. (Lavgbter.) If they bad looked with statesmaniixe eyes Yo the concition of Kurope,and the condition in which Europe might be before Pariicmont could assemble again, they ought sot wo bave deprived themselves of its assis- lance, a0 they ought net, without the consent of Parlia- Ment to bave mercased the establishments of the coun- try. Nothing but the most absolute necessity could bave Jostified them m depriving themselves of the assistance of Parliament. I say ‘that the cou they Was ap unconstitutional course, because to add ma'e- rially tothe military or naval estaolishments of the country when Pariirment ts not sitting, uniegs such in- crease is caliea for by some overruling necessity, ia not in accordance with the priucipics of the constitution, (Cheers.) What the overruling necessity waa we have not heard to night, because they keep their secret to them- elves. No momber of the government bad risen to ex- plain what was tbe imminent davger which required the increase of our establishments whilst Paritament was not sitting to give its sanction to that increase. (Choers.) I do not fina fault practically with what has been done, (Ministerial cheere.) But I tnd fault with them for placing themselves in a condition which obliged them to actin that manner, end withiut apy necessity, aod in Opposition to their duty. (Cheers.) We are told by the Lbancelior of the Exsheqver that a delay of evea twenty- four bours ix our decision will produce some unkno#n and awful peri), Now, if a doubt existing upon the mind of foreign governments ag to whether her Majesty’s go- verpment has or bag not the eupport of Parliament, produce suck awful resuite, how came it that the govern- ment thought themselves juatified in sending away Partia- meni and placing thomecives for six weeks or two months im that situstiou when peril must arise to the interests of the country? (Cheers.) No doubt the posi tion in which it etood before was net calculated to give strepgth to the goverpment with regard to our foreign re- lations, because a government’ that exists upeo sufferance and is fiable to be overthrown from week to week cannot expect foreign goveroments to enter Sto negotiations with them with the confidence that their policy will be pursued by their successors. (Cheers.) I say, considering the position in which they were, if they had brought in an- other reform bili it would have beeu much better for the interests of the couvtry than the total absence of Parlia- ment, aud the more than doubt that must have existed in the minds of Europe 4s to whether the government bad the support of Parbament andthe country, If the govern- ment shower themselves unabis to carry on the domestic Jegisighion of the couptry, much more so Dave they shown themscly® ‘n the management of our foreign relations. (Cheers.) It ia said that we must not exprees an opiffon cp that point in the absence of blue books, but there is sufficient evidence befure us to tell the story. Wo know ihe outline of what uus passed, 1HE DPRRY GOVERNMENT RESPONSIPLE FOR Tit WAR, Thave no doubt the goveroment cid what they thonght beat calculated to prevent the war: lui my opinion is that the cowrse which they puraued brought on tke war. (Cheers,) Their great notion was that the aanger of war arose from France and Sardinia—that if they held language Doaiile to France and Sardinia and yatronising towards Austria there would be no war. Up to the very last moment thefr be- lief was tbat if they conid only threaten France with hos. Lilities, ard intimate to Europe that in the event of a war breakirg out they would be found ou the side of Austria, Peace would be preserved and war | atone ‘Cheers and “Ob, ob!) They ought to have known whilst that language thet Austria had decided for war; but at the moment when the right honorable gentleman was | the dignificd and conciliatory conduct of austria and suspicious conduct of Sardinia, Oe: summons was on its way (0 Sardinia which the noble lord at the Read of the government a Week afterwards at the Mansion House was obliged to declare rendered Austria criminal. (Hear, hear.) Jt is plain that they were ignorant of the state of affaire—tbat they were uninformed a3 to what was aoipg ch—that they were under a deiusiou, and believed the carger of @ war to be imminent on the part of France and Serdinis, and that there was no aod on tho part of Austria. If they bad known wi was acing on at Vienna, and intentions of the Austrian government, they wauid bave held different language. re had ” the of there ha yore yy rig ey L ‘Ta ‘arlioment, and resting on ils sv that the use of firm and temperate language would have in- duced Av ad to abstain from thot act of aggression which, wn the opinion of the do) ih government, converted Austria indo heconattion of @ criminal. ( T can- not persuace myeelf that agevorvment which wasactoat~ ed by stateemaniike views, sud carried with it the sup- port of the country, would not have veen able t> prevent the outbrosk of the war, (Cheers.) These thing? lead me to the conclusion that the ment fe not entitles to the confidence and support of Parliameat with regard to {te foreign relations apy more tan with