The Seattle Star Newspaper, November 21, 1923, Page 16

% a 4 celal REARS ERLE REE <5 rN aa RRA NALS Sal ION 2 RE alc PAGE 16 About Fights and Fighters BY LEO A ql. LASSEN S a general thing you sel- dom see brothers adept at the same thing, particular- ly in athletics. The Bercot family seems to be an excep- tion, in that Bud, the young- er brother, is showing a great deal of promise for a kid, and Dode has already arrived in} fast company. Another “kid brother” of a} famous fighter who has the earmarks of a great battler is young Danny O'Leary, young brother of Johnny O'Leary, undoubtedly the finest all- around lightweight ever turn- ed out in the Northwest. | Danny's only experience with the gloves has in a few amateur attempts, but those who have seen him say that he has the same natural fighting qualities that made his brother so famous. But Danny's folks object to him Ddoxing. So the youngster, who 1 stilt going to high school here, ai tending Franklin and playing on the football and baseball teams, has com- plied with their wishes. Dan Salt, who has seen most of the figtiters of the Northwest come and go, says that Johnny, everything considered, was the best ever turned out here. “Freddie Welsh, the world's cham- pion lightweight before Benny Leon- ard, told me that O'Leary gave him one of the toughest fights of his} career when they fought 10 rounds one night in Winnipeg, Canada. He had everything to make a cham- pion," says Salt. The ring lost a prospéctive cham- pion because Johnny didn’t take the | Game seriously énough and wouldn't stick with the hard grind so neces | sary to fighting success. Bud Bercot Must Take Things Easy | It's all right for Bud Bercot to be | boxing occasionally, but the local | amateur promoters don't want to make the sérious mistake of letting the boy burn himself out, as he's only 15 years old and pretty well de- veloped now. He won't reach his full growth for several years, and too much boxing now will burn out the} strength that he will need if he fights | professionally later on. i A Good Suggestion Jack Allen, the Vancouver, B. C., fight promoter and manager, has a | good suggestion regarding the ren. | dering of decisions in the Seattle ring shows now that judges are in| vogue. That is to have the referee | write out his decision at the same | time as the two judges, the majority | of votes to decide it, all ties being | draws. This gives no chance for anybody to be prejudiced by the crowd after it's evident how the ver dict may be going. Delaney Really Beat Colina Tt was just an we thought—Jim De. laney, St. Paul light-heavyweight, | really beat Bert Colima in Los An geles last week and only got a draw | for his evening’s work Ed Frayne, one of Los Angeles’ | best fight critics and an unbiased er, declares that Delaney was robbed if ever a fighter was. The| crowd was so strong for Colima, | Frayne writes in the Record, that | every time Colima would start a punch, whether {t landed or not, the fans cheered. It would have been| suicide to have given Delaney the verdict. It's pretty bad when a visiting fighter can't get an even break in his opponent's “home town.” Delaney Is one of the few Eastern fighters to come to the Coast who made good on hig reputation, Moat of the others have come out on their reputations, picking up easy coin, | Knockout Wallop gt Evans Jack Hoh Many Great Football Stars in Game Today Wonderful Array of Backfield Men Make Gridiron Game Colorful; Linesmen Are Good as General Average; Jones and Rockne Lead Coaches BY HENRY L, FARRELL EW YORK, Noy. 21.—While the national gridiron has been cluttered up with really great players this fall, there have been no outstanding individual stars to compare with Jim Thorpe, Glen Killinger, Bo MeMillan or George Own, a set of players who couldn't be kept off any All- American team, Backs of quality abound in the Beast, West and South, but they are of such equal ability that it is almost impossi- ble to pick the three outstanding backs without leaving a half dozen that are almost as good. No quarterback in the country is better than Pfann, the great Cornell star, or Smythe, the Army brilliant, but there are several who are almost as good. Workman, of Ohio State, must be considered as one of the best. Richeson, of Yale, is a real star and Mike Palm, of Penn State, could not be left out of the select group. Surroundings make all the difference in the world. The spectacular winning team gets all the spotlight and its stars get the prominence. " Koppisch, the Columbia back, is one of the finest players in the country, but he will not be heard of in the West or South, because Columbia has won very little fame, even at home. Wycoff, the Georgia Tech back, is one of the finest in the country. \No less a celebrity than Knute Rockne, the Notre Dame coach, branded the Tech star as the best back he had seen this season. And Rockne has not only seen many of the best backs, but he has three of the greatest. In Stuhidreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden, Notre Dame has one of the most versatile and erally fine backfields in the country, Miller i¢ one of the outstanding stara of the season. Yalo has a wonderful array of backfield talent in Richeson, Neals, Neild Unger, Mallory, Stevens, Pond, Bench and Murphy. They are all #0 good that the coaches can hardly pick a regular quartet. For quality and quan tity perhaps the Yale backs are the best in the country, Michigan has a great backfield in Kipke, an All-Ameriean for sure; Ste. wer, Uterits and Miller. Mlinols has one of the best backfields in Grange, a halfback, who ts al. most an offense in himself. No list of the great backs will be complete without Darling of Boston| college, Glennon of Holy Cross, Dunne of Marquette, Ramsey of Corneil, | Tryon of Colgate, Wilson of Penn State and Hamer of Pennsylvania Great Linesmen Thruout Country Linesmen of great ability are scat-| ington and Jefferson are not far be- ; hind them. tered all over the country | Farwick of the Army and Gendenk | Garbisch of West Point is, no} ,-arwick of by doubt, the best center in the country. He has been playing long enough to be'the greatest. jing guards in the Rast, with Hub. | | bard of Harvard and Aschenbach of | Dartmouth running close to them. enberg, Earl A. Fry, D. of Penn State are the two outatand: | Bach of Notre Dame and Milstead | The beat ends of the year Include THE SHATT THE STAR SPORT STAFF Tom Olsen, Joe Williams, Leo H. Lassen, Henry L, Farrell, Alex C/Rose, Dugdale, Ray Eekmann, Melvin, Noorhets Lockard to Sell Out Seattle Baseball Holdings Is Report LOS ANGELES, Nov. 21,—Charles Lockard, president of the Seattle baseball club, will sell out his holding in the Seattle Coast league baseball club if an oil well venture that he is interested in at Wilmington pans out, according to a statement published in the Los Angeles Record. According to the Record, it is suspected that the desire of 2 Lockard’s family to live in Los Angeles has something to do with a The Lockards have lived in Los Angeles or Ava- like tearing up treasured 5) D. B. CHARLEY CASSIDY IL DOBIE'S Cornell team boasts a great Nine and a star back field. That is why the Itha-/ cans have used the steam roller on every opponent to date, While Full- jback Cusaidy leaves much of the running game to Pfann and Patter- non, he ia invariably the player called upon when a gain from one to five yards in @ real necessity In off-tackle smaxhen Cn’ he hardest man in the Eaw ‘MOVIES TO BE | TRACK JUDGES? | LE STAR Foley Wins Verdict in Silva Bout Two Knockdowns in the tomer down the line one Teddy Silva, of Lop Amelen Foley won the decision aff mix hard rounds of fighting, id fvhich the California boy made /f very pleasing showing, In all justice to Silva, while the second came as @ hard right to the jaw. groggy and ktayed down pr the en. Ure nine count, Silva made a great fi the fans got their raed Foley, as usual, mixed wd of it, and worth, ry occa alon, and thero was h@ily an idle moment during the & rounds of six-round semi#indup, Bam- my put up a game fight a, the vali nd veteran, Tint Frankie Britt, the ow stn fr boy. Gordon, Britt was far too stra for Gordon, but the Portlander w¢thered the en- Ure route, altho hepbsorbed some hard punishment. @rdon was fat and appeared out offondition, Young Sam Langfrd, who always gives the customer his very best, mado things a lity too tough for & fellow colored bf, Bobby Pierce. |angtord won decision after | four fent rounds, | Buster Robinsoj Vancouver ban- jtam, started oy in great at Jagainst BrownleWillon, but Villon Jeame back stro enough to win | tho verdict, In the opener,Panny Carlson beat Ah Fong until je Chinaman's face resembled straperry jam. It was ended in the t Referee Ad Scpat | Schadt refertd all bouts, and the {decisions werdendered with the aid of two jude] 'BEST QUADS 4 round, thanks to | his decisions, keepsakes to leave. lon for the past 20 years and it was Morning Games On "Bae Grid To give the high gti foot- ballers an opportunity to see the Washington. Washington State game, Athletic Director A. ©. Petton has decided to start the two Baturday prep contests at 10 a.m, The Weat Seattle Ballard fracas will come first, with the annual prep classic, Broadway ye, Lin- coin, following, at noon, The Franklin Queen Anne tilt will be started at 3:50 p. m. on Friday, IT’S AN OLD YALE SYSTEM In all probability Bucknell will not be on the Yale football schedule next Although Yale defeated Buck- nell, the Pennsylvania college team | played wfich hand football that sev. eral Yale stars were badly Injured. | Yale didn't like it, A few years back | Boston college trimmed Yale twice in succession, in which rough foot- | ball featured, resulting in Boston bo. a| ne peratched year, |FELSCH BEST, | SAYS GLEASON| Kid Gleason says that Happy NCT TO MEET| Felsch was the greatest outfielder } | Little St. John's college, in Brook NEW YORK, Nov. 21-—An a re} " t he ever saw. Felsch uld do every- t test | McRae, Syracuse; Berry, Lafayette: . It tn to beregretted that Michigan sedi Ge the fade, ag Gasnatices | TRE Yale: Smith, Prineston,|*%it of the dissatisfaction over the|qod Iilinodo not play this year.|thing, is the way Gleason summed ot Cornell and Welderquist of Wash- . i match race between Zev and In| qnese twoplevens are the class of|up tho ability of the former White sete Memortam, bear Smee: eect | |the Weat@h conference. A meeting|Sox star. in saying Felech was the the American turf, which wan offi |petween gem would decide the Big |kreatest fielder he ever saw, Giea- | Jones and Rockne Lead Coaches cially won by Zev at Churchill |ten title god would attract a crowd |son saya he has taken inte consid. Beyond all doubt, the outstanding Jone of the sensations among the | Downs, Saturday, many fans are that woul fill the blirgest stadium injeration auch stars as Roush, Speak coaches of the season have been |*mall Eastern colleges. Knute Rockne and Tad Jones. disheartening effort, finally equipped | It Is fortunate in the past and tO/the Yale team with some modern that Rockne! clothes and Yale seams to have come will always team to the East for an early season | for @ jong time. game. Coaches all gather to 866) Jones maintained during hia sen. Rockne'’s new styles and they take | song of adversity that he was bulld-| the pattern home with them ing a system, and if Yale would be ‘Three of the piays which Ya‘e used | patient with him he would deliver. with great effect upon Cis Army | Yale was patient because there were were taken from Notre Dame's stuff | powerful influences back of Jones t and altered only slightly. it #0 well that the Army was fooled | that howled for a new coach the second time by the same plays! Yale i# in an ern of prosperity as | with which Notre Dame fooled them.|far as material is concerned, and | voicing approval of the idea of with- Tad Jones, after several yearn of holding judgment on close races un-| — the county ler and others j tl the nlow-motion pictures can tel the writers thought In Memoriam won, |the officials gave the race to Zev sae vion | back Fe S| SOG oe ee psigea | | Later, when the plotures were de ie | oped, tt was claimed that In Memor fam had won by « twos! too late te coctcae ths casulats however |been paid off Yale did | allence the radical wing of the hense ‘DUFFY DEFEAT ‘The recent defeat tale, While many of the turt Faure Washington Stars CHRISTIE 18” A’ GOOD’ TACKLE cant none as all b eles es eae Nf team is stronger than its substitutes, and altho Wash-| se i pi ington has a great forward line this year it wouldn't |} be © strong if the second string men weren't up to the | stadard th by are. ee Coach Bagshaw has some really good lines- SURPRISED ’EM handed Jimmy probably will be for several years tol nutty. claver California, weltes men and among them is Amos Christie, the |lyn, picked up all its plays from what | come. With such fine material and| weight, who ia well known to Ser California boy, who is understudy to the ithe“squad saw Notre Dame pull/smart equipment, Yale ought to be s thru his bouts with Eddie P a |against the Army, and it has been! back with a boom. Deception Is Valuable Offense came as quite a surprise to the Oak. | land boy's backers: regular tackles. Long and gangling and with pretty man, . by ¢ ‘Travie Davin and others no Cline in the South, good Oakland J All of the Eastern coach: gn pregenay The team has back® WhQ/ 144 won four straight atarts agninat for a tackle. He has lacked experience, and jthey saw Notro Dame's team this | can run, throw and reovive and With | irr competition before dropping the | with two such good men as Ed Kuhn and season, probably will go back to de-|the forward pars as ith greatest! (i), 00 g " ception am the moat valuable weapon | threat, the offense waa perfect of defense. | Yale has almost the same kind of | Notre Dame has more than 20| material and {it is now using the plays which start from the same | samme kind of plays. GEORGIE MARKS COMING BOXER! |LYMAN BROWN A GOOD RUNNER Georgie Marks, a graduate of the! Altho Minneaota'n cross-country California four-round boxing game,|team lost in their dual meet with | is booked for a chance at the world's | Iowa, Saturday, the work of Lyman | flyweight title, if he continues to win| Brown, of the losing in the East at his present rate. Nego-| classes him ag one of tiations are under way to pit Marks|long distance negotiators against Pancho Villa in New York,| world. He broke the Big Ten con according to late reports. ference record with his time of 2 | 17:9 10 over the five mile course. IN A HURRY Marathon runner fed soup from a} NASTY REMARK a bicycle. He took it on the| Caney Stengel ought to be a Is the Thriller run, as you might amy | star in Boston Casey wa The knockout wallop, particularly | | Always @ big star in the minor the punch that js unexpected and - | knocks an opponent dead, is the kick | JUST A PUN MUCH FASIER in the ring. And, incidentally, it 1s} It goes without saying that the! MoGraw and Jennings, crossing the least punishing of them all. For| Shade brothers are great shadow! the sea, will find it easier than crows one thing, it ends the fight with one | boxers ing Ruth punch, wnile many fellows go thra several rounds, reeling on their feet, punch drunk, taking them a la Bat-| thing Neilson. ‘That's really harmful to a fighter’s | 19 to his aanity. | h ig the thriller of} ring sport, no doubt about thot. | here hasn't been a kick so great years in a local ring aa the night hat Dode Bercot Inid that sleep wal- jop on Ted Krache’s chin in their | first fight last summer. Remember the night Marcario Flores rocked Franke Pete to dream. | land with one of his wild wwings? And more recently when Fred Welsh hit Tiny Bott, the navy heavy. weight, on the teeth and he went out | HE only Sunday manager in the major leagus tn the title that belongs to Bert Shotton of the St. Louis | Cardinals, Branch Mickey 1s the régular boss, but he has religious scruples ang refuses to have anything to Sunday Manager Is Shotton’s Unique Job do with baseball on Sunday, job During his career as one day-A-week manager Shot hence Shotton's uniqe Fn ton has made a great record. He ts batting consider fox Weepe? = oe getty er: Ably better than .500 in the games reentage gue cA nie daddies tan oe They do say that Bert merely carries out the Tae Haters ave toes eiswing: eet orders of his boss, that Rickey aélecta the pitchers rae Geos ihercnekiek’ thar Wee sk and suggests possible changes the day prior to the “dl ~ ang game. Regardless of such rumors, Shotton wins ball the fans < aes Ghee ton ternstsine 15 bee Cask Dench. Since all ball games do nat run true to form, Shot sey and Luis Firpo in thelr slugging ton deserves much credit for the Sunday showing match. You couldn't get halt that | that has been made by the Cardinals since he whs number to turn out for the best box placed in charge. It would occasion no surprise if itig exhibition in the world. Shotton got a chance to show hia true worth when I's the old knock-em-down-« | Tots Rickey decides to give up the managerial end of tho ‘ag-ern-out instinct that still is very - Game pata pant in mort fight fans. SHOTTON Shotton, strangely enough, made his major league debut as a member of the rival team in St. Louis, the Browns of the American league notton, who #eldom does more than act a pinch hitter these . played the outfield and wan a 1 y¥ gobd man. He y tast at the clone Of hin American league career he was traded to Wash where he remained until Branch Rickey took charge of the Cardinals. Shotton starred under Rickey when hé managed the Browt and Naturally Hickey took advantage of the first opportunity to get dinais, Roy Petrie on deck he hasn't had much of weight and speed, Christie has-the ideal 4 IE Pacific Coast league has the biggest transportation problem to face in baseball each season, The league cities aré more scattered than the cities of any ae league in the game. The long jump to Portland and Beattle would not be possible if it wasn't for the big gate at both places, Tho other long trip is to Balt lake and it's usually at a loss. Salt Lake, city about half the sizo of Seattle, or even smaller, draws well enough for its popula- tion, but it isn’t big enough to draw the gate necéasary to pay for the long jump to Utah. A more compact cireult is the need of the Coast league. For years Bill Lane has been said to be ready to sell, but he keeps hanging on. I saw @ notice in the press dis- |day that Long Beach is planning to build a big baseball plant. Long Bench ts a city of about the same sive an Balt Lake and is growing |fost. It's a close jump to Los An- geles and should be able to support Const league ball, The erection of this plant may mean the transfer of the Balt Lake franchise, which would be m great thing for the league, HE balance of power tn the Coast league is now vested in Callfornia with five t in that state, and I doubt if the Northwest will ever get any more of the franchises because of purely political reasons. Tacoma and Vancouver, B. C, have been after franchise at various times. One city might jand one, but not both, if I know | baseball polities at all. HERE'S no dowtt but what Salt Lake is the weak sister of the Coast league. Every league has its | weak ister. The American associa- tion has kept a couple of them in {ts organization for years because jot the short jumps they made pos- | alle, and the International circuit | has had to shift about its franchises {several times in order to build up | pass. new Interest at the gate. If Lane continues to refuse to sell out, the league one of these |duys may move his franchise for him. § William McCarthy has direct evidence that the William | Wrigley interests are behind the Seattle ball club he won't get much | NLE BETWEEN INNING patches from California the other | el Un tr a L Zk ul ; o y wt a p FOOTBALL FACTS BY BiLLY EVANS THE QUESTION On an exchange of punts, play- er on "A" team receives a punt and starts down the field with the ball. Tackled near the side lines, he fumbles the ball. A b Player on the opposing team in an effort to recover the fumble , gets the ball squarely into his hands. Instead of retaining it he also fumbles the ball, jug- &ling it several times. The ball finally gots away from the player, and the momentum given it because he had juggled the ball while running at full speed, causes it to’ pass over a side line fence, out of play. What is the proper ruling on such a hap- pening? THE ANSWER This play is not at all unusual. It jbappens scores of times during the football season. The rules state that }a@ ball #0 fumbled d then passes over @ side line fence shall be consid. ered the property of the side whose Player Inst touched it in the field of | Play. The ball shall go to such team jat the point where the ball crossed the side line. This rule of coursel |) | does not apply to a fumbled forward SEATTLE TO | MEET VANS __ HERE TODAY SATTLE'S hockey aggregation, without the services of Captain RUTH PRAISES YOUNG FLINGERS Babe Ruth, who is not overly fond of batting against southpaws, # 110) that In Jim Edwards and Joo Sh the Cleveland club has the two bad} young left handers in the Amertoff league | OUR BOARDIN PART \ FIVE PESOS, OR {BOUT TWENTY DOLLARGN POR fi 4 mot , Fue an opportunity to step into the regular line. There is a chance that “Baggy” may make him over into a backfield man next year as/| he is pretty fast on his feet. CHRISTIE That is if Christie is in school next year. He is a medical student and may wind up his Washington career soon to finish up at some other institution. Christie hails from Burek G HOUSE sympathy from Judge Landis and | Bobby Rowe, wiil meet the strong |the big leagues because of his stand | Vancouver team at the Arena here jon the draft and his war on /the | tonight j™ajors. Not that the authorities} it will be Vancouver's first. ap- | Would be prejudiced in judging evi-|pearance here this season. Senco dence, but if the sald evidence isn’t | conquered the Northerners In the fo¥hocoming he can't expect any | |help as he isn't very popular with i | the the tendue: bere last week in a ferocious battle. j The majors, the parent organiza-| Smokey Harris will take Rowe's <= | tions of the game, will support the | Place on the defense, and ttle's minors an long as the jatter leagues |DOPes rest upon thig man's shou- Stay In thelr proper place. But when | “ers tonight opening game at Vancouver early ) SENO# WOULD WITH IT, FOR/THE “TRIVIAL GUM OF INENTY- PSYCHOLOGICAL MOMEN” BY DOVE, MARTHA DEIR = veo! WELL THERE “HA-“THERE THIS PARROT HAS “TAKE A ARE MORE PARROTS GOES ANOTHER CAN DECIDED FANCY “to Y@~~ NTIS House Now PLAN OF eas SN “NO AND T FEEL YOU RECIHOCATE Mal cages! fle ont WITH MORE THE AFFECTION! + AIF BY | |-tei. whoever tie SBiton” WERE THE WAY = SHOULD 6) CARE | | Geilon FRIED OF GONG FIFT- FA THAN A To POSSESS THiS GEVER YOURS 1G, THAT TI FIFTY on “TH! PAWN ] BIRD, 1 AM SURE WY OLD SAID We'S MIXED >) SALE OF [!] FRIEND, | ON HIS BIRDS « HE ar owt! SHOULD BE SELLING “TURKEYS AT THIS IME OF YEAR! ew pe oe they demand big league recognition | Durjng the intermission, Jimmy they will get turned down with a}Burke and George Brian, lever heavy jolt each time. fancy skaters, will perform, Burke The majors have had all the best |@ppeared here recently with Bobby of the draft fight as the lack of | Mc world’s champion tee & good player market wrecked sev. | skat at the Orpheum theater, eral minor league races this year | And most of the minors are ready to call it quits, |] AM sure that the fans will be} |* pleased with the return of the Agreements that will send us new talent for the playing field. It will mean much better baseball for ua and we will get younger blood sent out for development by the majors jand not oldtimers who are allpping. The big prices that San Francisco got for O'Connell and Kamm was jthe underlying cause for the big |fiwht against the draft, but the Jdraft is the best thing for the} }wame, and the sooner it is return jed the better for baseball, as it will even the competition, and without a race you soon kill the interest of the | fans, the real lifeblood of baseball | Iv’s A FACT concreté stadiums the days. But they can get along without con. | crete quarterbacks. When Ape Man Meets Firpo The ape man of Bolivia, self atyled, comes forward to do battle in the prize ring. He is an Indian giant and his little playmates call him Ca macho The yard stick shows that Ca macho is seven feet tall and pro- portionately built Camacho wants to fight Firpo. ‘In this corner, genta, Firpo, the wild bull of (he Pampas; in the other corner, Camacho, the kavagé orangoutang of the Punas Both boys are members of th |but has given up the stage to make |his home tn the Northwest |= a a A good looking, man- ||| nish cutaway front model of unusually good lines. | ARROW COLLARS CLUETT, PRABODY €7 CO., Ine. AMahert |20000000000000000 COME AND BRING | A FRIEND TO The ZERO | 214 Jefferson St, Just back of L. C. Smith Bidg. } Card Tables, Pool, Cigars, Candies, Soft Drinks, Fountain Lunches Pay Checks Cashed