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16 N FRANCISCO CALL, FRIDAY, APRIL 3, 1896. CHAUNCEY DEPEW AT HIS EASE, One Leg Over the Arm of a Rocker, He Talks and Talks. WILL NOMINATE MORTON How a Railroad Completely Handicaps a Man in Politics. WHY VANDERBILT WON'T TALK The Story of That Famous “ Public | Be Damned” Interview With William H. In his room at the Palace last evening, his leg thrown easily over the arm of his rocker, Chauncey M. Depew talked and talked in that entertaining fashion that has made proverbs in his name. He talked of California and used super- latives without stint; of politics past, present and prospective; of why .he dropped out of the Presidential race in '88; of railroad men in politics and why they have a right to be there; of newspaper re- porters and his experiences with them, | dropping easily from one of his Peekskill stories to the National money guestion, and always maintaining the high level of interest to the listener. And all this time Cornelius Vanderbilt— registered downstairs as plain **C. Vander- bilt”’—was in another room, refusing and refusing to talk. . One of Mr. Depew's best stories founded on Mr. Vanderbilt’s refusals. The fact is Mr. Vanderbilt refuses, under | advice of Mr. Depew, for Mr. Vanderbilt | himself gives signs of a disposition to is | speak his mind. But Mr. Depew says to him constantly when they are together and the tbird man is asking questions “Do not be interviewed, | Mr.. Vanderbilt,” and Mr. Vanderbilt | epeaks again of the beautiful weaiher. Why this is so will be allowed to take its - 8 Cornelius Vanderbilt, the Railroad Magnate Who Leads a Distinguished Party on a Tour of the West. place in the pleasant procession of Mr. De- pew’s conversation, for he must first pe | terranean. There the drivesand rich verd- | allowed to explain how much better he | ureand blue skies may bear comparison | thinks California is than all the rest of the | with Del Monte. But it is aci city ; world, for he does think so—he says he of villas to be sure, but still a cit; Del | does. | Monte as a hotel is beyond compare. You | This is the first visit of the great rail- | road man and politician to California, and ‘ it may be said that the first impressions | are mutual. He looks to be all that has been said of him and no man can remem- ber back to an ill speech concerning him. | He is tall, straight, gray, quick of move- | ment but not nervously so, his vest, a boutonniere and | wonderful pair of thick-soled shoes. The shoes are the only things that arrest the | tion. 1 say protection, for I am afirm |16 to 1 will not do it until the world is | of a | in all the world.” are surrounded with every luxury, and the | wonderful beauty of Monaco, with a short walk may hide eatirely from | habitations and be surrcunded only by nature, cultivated and otherwise, but al- ways in most impressive beauty. and yer | “The thought has occurred to me that | wears | California with protection, reciprocity and | dark, plain clothes, & gold chain across | sound money would be the greatest State | on a footing with the whole world, is tne | cinnati. | thing necessary to bring a return of good That brought him to the money ques- | | The remedy? | expense of the Nation. doing that would be considered a failure. Well, I would stop the working of that endless chain by which the Government issues bonds to secure gold and pays out the gold to redeem the bonds, and a few men in Wall street and Lombard street control the | financial situation ana become rich at the How would I stop it? Iwould provide againsta reissue. I am in favor of the Carlisle plan. Baut that is a long story. sound financial policy, placing the Nation times, and the cry either of free silver or attention as something unexpected, for all | believer in protection, but sound money is | willing.” the rest is made familiar by the newspaper | the first thing needed to revive things. | This naturally led into National politics, | the greatest speech I ever heard for im- and magazine artist. He pronounces his name ‘‘Chancy” | rather than **Chawncey,” thus further en- dearing himself to the American heart. The party arrived last evening at 5:30, after a day spent along the road north | from Santa Cruz. They were conaucted | by Colonel Crocker and a retinue of rail- road men, including, of course, Mr. Crane, the local representative of the Vanderbilt | lines. They will leave for the Fast on Sunday, and the intervening time, as Mr. Depew | says, is to be heavily charged with sight- | seeing and San Franciscan experience. For instance last night was devoted to Chinatown. To-day the party will take a drive down the Napa Valley. Saturday is | down for an excursion about the bay and | a ride through Golden Gate Park to the | Cliff House, ana Saturday night the din- | ner at the Union League. There was a spreading bunch of long- stemmed roses on the center-table and a pile of letters when Mr. Depew entered his room last evening. One letter he sin- gled from the heap, and begged to be ex- cused until he read it. Then he threw himself back in his chair, saying, “That is a letter from Buster, my boy. All's well; now go ahead.” Then he went right ahead himself. He | said be regretted very much that he could | i not dine with the Bohemian Club, as he understood 1t was something on the lines | of the Lotus Club of New York, of which the principal purpose in life was to enter- tain artists and distinguished men of let- ters. He did not know on what theory they could entertain him as an artist ex- cept it might be & variety artist. Mr. Depew had been quoted in an even- ing paper as saying that in all the prodi- gality of nature in California he missed | the song birds and beautiful women that ought to be a natural complement of all the rest. He distinctly blushed while re- pudiating this statement. As to the birds it was all right, but “as to the women what I did say was this,” said Mr. ! Depew: “That I regretted that the speed with which we travel took away from me the opportunity of meeting the ladies of California, who, when I did have that pleasure, would no doubt be found to be the fitting crown to all the other love- liness.” Well satisfied with this, Mr. Depew con- | tinued: *“We came through the Santa Clara Valley to-day. Ican say as a tray- eled man that it is the grandest valley in the world. San Jose as the capital of that | county is a beautiful littie city, with great prospects. - “No, I have not seen the Vale of Cash- mere. I have traveled through Southern France and all Italy. I know the famous places of earth. There is only once place in the world that I have seen that may be mentioned in the same breath with Del Monte, and then Del Monte must be spoken first. The other place is Monaco, the great gambling headquarters of Europe, the little principality at the foot of the Pyrenees and overlooking the Medi- } I have only to say thata | | State. Morton has created no strong ani- | mositi For these reasons we believe he | will be considered the most available man. No, I do not think Harrison will figure. I do not think he wants it. He has =aid so 80 positively that there can be no doubt. ‘No, the favorites do not win,” con- tinued Mr. Depew. “Witness how often Blaine went to the convention clearly the National favorite, but with animosities |and favorite sons enough, too, when united, to defeat him. I heard the famous nominating speech of Ingersoll at Cin- Had the vote been taken im- | mediately Blaine would have been | chosen. = But the insinuating toil the unknown individual in the big body overcame even the effort of that T Chauncey M. Depew, as He Sat T'alking Politics and Other Things in His Room at the Palace Last Evening What I mean by sound money is a medium of exchange accepta- ble to the world with which we do business, redeemable anywhere. I | do not care what that is, gold, silver or pa- per, or more than one, if they can be kept on a parity throughout the world ; one country can set itself up in acur- rency allits own no more than an indi- vidual would set up a code of laws for him- self independent of the community. The odds are too much—he cannot withstand the pressure; and it isa most humiliating spectacle this picture of the richest Nation on earth borrowing money to pay its own notes. A business concern found to be Highest of all in Leavening Power.— Latest U. S. Gov’t Report Qal Baking Powder but no | {and the onset of the Presidential cam- paign. ‘‘The things that appeared clear in April are absurd or forgotten in the fall,” be said. “I am for Morton, to be sure. It is very likely that I shall nom- inate him at St. Louis, unless some other son of New York shall think he can do it better. As it stands, Republican success is certain in November. There is the pos- sibility of Cuban and other comiplica- tions between now and November affecting even that. There are only four men whose chances at St. Louis were worth speaking about. McKinley stands easily in the lead, with Reed, Allison anda Mor- ton ranging in the order named. Morton stands perhaps an even chance with Alli- son, as he starts in with seventy-teo of the State delegation. We of New York, mindful of the past, think Morton stands a very good show. Presidentsas a rule are not made out of early favorites. These are all good men, and the country can be safely trusted to any of them.. McKinley will go to the convention with a clear lead. The only way he can be defeated is by the tield combining against him. The field will combine and this becomss the strong force. The question then arises as to the name of the man upon whom it can be 2 brought to unite. New York is a pivotal mediate and dramatic effect. Blaine had detied bis enemies—came before the con- vention in that open defiance, with those letters still fresh in the public mind—and it was that in Ingersoll’s address that made it notable. And out of the rush of enthusiasm that it called up and which spread over the country, Rutherford B. Hayes, a man not before “heard of, rose up and was made President of the 2United States. The opposition found it impossible to unite on Sherman or any other of the leaders, and after spending the night in vain efforts Hayes, having done nothing’ to make enemies, brought them together. it was the same with Grant the last time he appeared as a candidate and has been so in many other cases of common note.” Mr. Depew was asked as to the story that he is scheduled for the secretaryship of state in the event of Mr. Morton’s suc- cess. I have made two rules concerning the building of bridges,” he said. ‘*‘One is never to throw one across the dry bed of a stream in the fear that I way come to the brink and find a flood there. The other is uever to cross a bridge until I come to it.” This led up to the railroad man in polities, ' g “It is commonly accepted that for a man connected with a railroad politics are impossible. I went to the convention of 1888 with my State delegation solid for me for the Presidential nomnation. It was the first time the delegation from New York united for any candidate. I was to break the spell—to deny and controvert this story about railroad men. The rail- road men were to help me doit. They were to remind the newspapers and peti- tioners of something which they per- sistently overlook—that there are a million railroad men in this country. These are intelligent and influential men in the com- munity. The station master, for instance, of a town is usually one of the best men in it. He knows and is in touch with every- body elsein town. And yet, because he is in the employ of the railroad, he could not be elected poundmaster. Well, they feel and resent this thing. “As I say, I was to break this spell. I went to the convention with the solid dele- gation,.but we had no sooner arrived on the ground than we began to suffer from this general anti-railroad sentiment. There was a careful reckoning of the votes of the States necessary for success in the general election. The delegates from Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas came to us and said that with a railroad man at the head of the ticket their States would surely be lost to the Republican party. The question re- solved itself into this: that we must bear the onus of this loss and defeat at the polls, if defeat followed our success in the convention, or we must go back home having renounced our own cause—the cause of railroad men. ““As showing how high the feeling ran along these lines a little Incident that hap- vened there will illustrate. The hotel, my headquarters, was crowded with politicians. A prominent local railrond man came through the hurly-burly and drew measide and said, ‘Chauncey, my little girl is lying dead at my home. My wife and I were grieving together over our great ioss, when she said to me, ‘“George, we are in great trouble; we feel the power of sympathy. Mr. Depew is down at the hotel also in great trouble. You may do some good by simply going down and telling him that we think of him at this moment.””’ “The man threw his arms around my neck and kissed me and returned to his dead.” Mr. Depew told this story quite simply and with no sign in the telling of the bit- terness that the story itself might indi- cate. Then he went on to tell something of his experience with reporters—for it is well known that ‘Mr. Depew is a newspaper- man’s man—said to be the most fre- quently interviewed of all men. The story of why Cornelius Vanderbilt refuses to be interviewed led up to it. ‘‘William H. Vanderbilt, father of Cor- nelius, started in as a hail-fellow-well- met among newspaper men. I encour- aged him to be so. Everywhere he went the doors were always open to them. He talked freely and was not afraid to express opinions. Sometimes he was misquoted, again misrepresented. Sometimes he would get angry at what he found in the pspers—there was always that };rejudice against a very rich man. IHe would swear some- times that he would never see another re- porter, and that I must do the talking for him. 8till, he went on, however. One day his carran into Chicago. Mr. Vander- bilt happened to be feeling pretty good, the expected reporter com- ing was invited in, a giass of wine placed before him “and a cigar, and shortly after the reporter went away and sent over the country that re- mark that has become a fixturein litera- tute, a remark that Mr. Vanderbilt did not make for two reasons—first, because there was nothing in the occasion to proyoke it, and second, because Mr. Vanderbilt was not a fool— that saying, ‘the public be damned.’ “‘That remark was taken up as we all know by the press the world oyer, and has been harped on ever since. Mr. Vander- bilt could not get away from it. It hounded him till iis death, and still sur- vives to darken his memory. No amount of contradiction could effuce it. “But it changed Mr. Vanderbilt’s front to the reporter. He would never see an- other, except he knew him well and he wrote for a paper that he knew would not ‘edit’ the copy. That resolved itself finally down to one reporter and two news- papers, who alone could get a word out of him. That is why Cornelius Vander bilt will not talk to reporters, and why I ad- vise him not to. ““As for myself 1 may say I have never been willfully misrepresented in an inter- view. But I have been made to talk likea clown by inexperienced men who wrote without notes. Onlya short time ago I was interviewed on the silver question by a man who made no notes and who after- ward confessed that he was wholly ignorant of the subject. When I read that interview I asked my friends to please have an inquiry instituted as to my sanity.” Mr. Depew is traveling, he says, as the guest of Mr. Vanderbilt, as are also John Howe and George Fearing, bankers of New York, who are of the part; Ladies’ Southern ties, §1 45, all shades, every toe. 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