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2 THE SAN FRANCISCO CALL, THURSDAY. DECEMBER 19, 1%95. ——————————————————————————————————————————— and miore dignified to inform the United States that the commission will be‘ehtirely disregarded by Great Brimin._ Any_ at- tempt to enforce its revort within Guiang would be as much an act of war s the in- vasion'of Kent.” * The Daily News, in an editorial, will re- view past disputes between the United States and England, which for the moment looked serious enough, but with sense and good temper both sides came to an agree- ment on peaceful and friendly terms. The Standard to-morrow will say it is apparent that the war-fever in the United States is among politicians, and instances Mr. Chandler’s pill. It continues: “While the fit lasts we must expect to dealawith grandiose talk and must not be surprised at the promuigation of the most ridiculous plans; but we have zn abiding faith in the good sense of the American people, and feel sure that when they come fo review the facts calmly they will be pre- pared to admit that Mr. Cleveland has al- together overdone his part. It is plain to them that we must appeal against the mis- representation of the sentiments by the execut The amazing demands which Mr. Cleveland and Mr. Olney ask Congress to indorse constitute an attempted out- on the law of the nations which the e world is bourid to répudiate.” e paper lengthily discusses Mr. Olney’s ch, reasserts the strength of the English position and concludes as follows: “We fail to' find a shadow of excuse for in act of astounding and utterly unpro- voked endlin Iven if our case were less strong it would be startling—indeed shocking—to. find the head of the Ameri- can Republic plunging with so ‘much levity into a position from which one side e. or the other must recede with some iscredit and pot without some tion; but that in the actual circumstances . Mr. Cleveland should employ language recommending action at savors of a readiness to commit Eng- 1d and the United States to a fratricidal ict seems to us little short of a grave crime. This is how it strikes everybody, without nction of party, in this coun- try. We feel pretty confident that such will be the final opinion of the great bulk of the American people.” The Chronicle says: ‘“‘Had the contro- versy arisen between Great Britain ahd a European power it would by now have borne conséquences of the most serious ter. But we and the United States brethren, and family quarrels have en kindled a quick flame and ended in sudden tenderness. Therefore we do not and will not assume that President Cleve- land’s message has produced any more an a p ng impression. bove all we will not contemplate the of a war between Engiand and It is a thing that civilization not envisage. It horrifies even ler hostile observers. The foreign press examines the dispatches and finds nothing absolutely precluding an amicable settle- ment. 3 s Sl LPHOLDs GREAT BRITAIN.; Comments of the Cologne Gazette Upon the Message. BERLIN, Germaxy, Dec. 18.—The Co- logne Gazette. discussing Cleveland’s mes- sage to Congress, says: ‘‘Against preten- sions of this kind all of the European states will stand by England, for itis a question to be decided once and for all whether the unbridledclaims of the United States shall be recognized or European civilization subordinated ta North Amer- ican civilization on the American conti- nent. Great Britaip, has the fullest~ moral and material t to_persist defiantly in a cenflict so p onately initiated.”™ The message is heartily indorsed by the United States embassy here. The author- ities of the emb: applaud Mr. Cleve- land’s firmness, but will ‘not talk any fur- ther on the subject. President Cleveland’s full megsage has not yet been printed in Gefmany. The Vossiche Zeitung, in commenting on President Cleveland’s. message on the Venezuelan question, says that the Presi- Ip tone against Bngland and his zing the Monroe doctrine will at- tract the attention of other powers. The National Zeitung says: ‘“Rudeness toward unliked countries is the rule when Presidents seek office. As the Washing- ton Government claims exclusive rights in the matter of arbitrating American affairs, the whole arbitration claim becomes a pure farce, 2s is also the demarcation commission.” The Boursen Courier says that England first haughtily treated the Alabama claims, but was afterward obliged to ac- cept arbitration on the question, and that established a precedent. The Boursen Zeitung sa “President Cleveland’s answer leaves nothing to be desired in its outspokenness. -England will begin to comprehend that America is no longer a field for English expansion. Mr. Cleveland appears to intend purposely to offend other powers, but it must be re- membered that the elections in the United States are near.” The Lokal Anzeiger says that the Presi- dent’s message is purposely aggressive, and will make a friendly solution of the on harder. than ever. The Freissinige Zeitung says President Cleveland’s aggressive tone is haraly credible. It seems to serious politicians like playing with fire. The paper con- cludes by expressing the hope that such a trifle as the dispute between Great Britain and the United States in relation to the Venezuela-Guiana boundary will not lead to war between the first-mentioned two countries, iEaplen A CLEVELAND AT FAULT. Leading French Papers Are Disposed to Criticize. PARIS, Fraxce, Dec. 18.—The Paris re- vresentative of the United Press to-day obtained an interview with ex-Premier Goblet. in which the ex-Prime Minister said with reference to President Cleve- land’s message to the Uniled” States Con- gress regarding the Venezuelan dispute that he considered the President’s preten- sions absolutely novel in the annals of diplomacy. On the other hand he ex- pressed regret that England had refused to submit the boundary question to arbitra- tion. : “During my" ministry,” said Goblet, “France gave an example by submitting her dispute with Holland, regarding French Guiana, to the arbitration of Russia, and accepting withont hesitation the decision, which was adverse to her. *‘As regards the Monroe, doctrine,” con- tinued the ex-Premier, “‘I can’ only say that it appears to be absolutely unaccepi- able to Europeans.” M. Lucien Millevois, formerly a member of the Chamber of Deputiep, has an article in La Patri€'in which he says: “‘President Cleveland’s message inflicts -Did" you ever see so many pretty things for the table*and desk and mantelpiece as there are at Crockers’ ? TFor sale’ orgtozlookzat—as you choeseé. 5 = 227 Post street 243 Bush sizeote ; a harder blow on British pride than it has received in a century. It will demolish England’s prestige in all parts of‘the world. England must undertake ultra- formidable adventure or bow to America’s haughty ultimatum. . Since Napoleon threatened to invade England no chief of state has dared to use toward the British Foreign Office such firm language as that of Mr. Cleveland. England isin a dilemma. Submissien is equiyalent to humiliation and resistance is eqiivalent to war, an im- placable duel with all the energy and the moral and material forces which America has at its disposal, including the Irish whom England’s iniquitous rule has exiled to the New World. “Europe will not intervene. It would not dare to brave an American coalition roused to anger by an attack upon its dear- est interests. . The time is past when Brit- ish diplomacy bribed half the world and intimidated the remainder. . It is only audacious now with weaklings like the Matabeles; it will now know how to be prudent. England cannot count on any support.” The Journal des Debats says that Mr. Cleveland’s language is somewhat un- measured, and undoubtedly places the | United States in the'alternative of fighting | England, however monstrous that might be, or beating an inglorious retreat after yesterday's bravery. The paper contests: he right of the United States to intervene in the Venezuelan dispute.” The Monroe doctrine, it says, cannet be considered by the rest of the world as an international act possessing any value as a law of na- tions. It is surprised at the proposal to send a commission to examine a disputed boundary in a foreign country. ponigaty s In conclusion the Debats says that not- withstdnding the unfavorable character of American political -systems it refuses to believe that Mr. Cleveland would risk the honor of Americans for mere political motives. La" TLiberte say: “Peoples of the same race and origin are accustomed to using strong language without fighting. Doubtless the difference will be settled pacifically. If Lord Salisbury should pick { up the glove so arrogantly thrown down England would be able to organize a military expedition in a few hours, while the United States is unprepared. The | complication affords matter for reflection on the disadvantages of colonial expan- sion.” The Temps has a two-column editorial on the meéssage, which it says is the gravest document signed by an American Presi- dent since President Lincoln’s manifesto on the Trent incident. The guestion is whether Mr.'Cleveland is merely twisting the British Tion’s tail or is acting seriously. At any rate hisaction is without diplo- matic precedent, unless such can be found | in the annals of the arrogant Roman Sen- ate. England refuses arbitration, while the Unites States Government deciares that it will'compel England to accept its judgment without appeal. It is impossi- bie for an autonomous state, let alone a | great power, to submit to such humilia- tion. Mr. Cleveland has been accused of restricting the meaning of the Monroe doc- trine, butin fact he now stretches it beyond measure. Monroe never imagined such action. Mr. Cleveland’s claim to supreme | authority over the whole hemisphere is a claim that isharmful to the progress of the United States, as Europeand England will not bow to such & pretension. Arbitration has been greatly harmed in public opinion, yet war is impossible. The incident is one | of the periodical outbursts that had a par- allel in the Sackville-West affair. The Temps says it wishes and expects that a pacific solution of the gulestions at issue will be found. g COMMENT IN CANADA. The Message Denounced as a Politi= cal Device. TORONTO, Oxrario, Dec. 18.—Com- menting on President Cleveland’s message | to Congress on the Venezuelan question, | the Mail says: “To declare that the Mon- | roe doctrine is an authority upon this con- tinent is one thing, to exercise jurisdic- | tion under it upon soil that 1s held to be British is another. Congress may well hesitate to take so serious a step. The commission, however, is a very good de- vice, from Mr. Cleveland’s point of view, which is evidently that of the politician who is out for votes. It would probably be long before the commission could re- port, but in the meantime Mr. Cleveland’s firm vindication of the doctrine would be winning votes for his third term election. | We may be sure, however, that whoever wins or loses in that election, not a foot of British territory will be transferred to a foreign’ flag by any ruling of their bluster and the Monroe doctrine.” The World says: “If the President is acting from what he considers patriotic motives alone then his message is to be dealt with in a serious aspect. But if he issimply trying to boom himself for a third term his conduct will be discounte- nanced by the Republican party even more rapialy than by the British Govern- ment. = Before, therefore, expressing an opinion on what the document really means the world at large will require to know what the Presidert’s aspirations are in regard to his successor. That can be learned by watching the politieal develop- ments within the United States during the next few days rather than by regard- ing what the people of England and else- where may think of it.”” The Globe makes no comment. MONTREAL, Queeec, Dec. 18.— The Star, under the caption “Why There ‘Wilt Be No War,” says: “If the cheap fustian of politicians should appear likely to entice the overbusy American people unthinkingly into war, it will only be nec- essary to shake in their faces the pension charges, which are stiil increasing, though the local unpleasantness of the ’60's is now thirty years below the horizon.” The Gazette says: “Lord Salisbury’s firm statement of his case shows that Great Britain will not be moved from the course she has marked out for herself in defense of her subjects’ rights. Fresident Cleve- land’s position is a new one in the history of diplomacy. It is not warranted by in- ternational law. It is not backed by good sense. Itis not even justified by that much - talked - of and Iittle understood thing, the Monroe doctrine.’’ OTTAWA, Oxtario, Dec. 18.—The Citi- zen (Government organ)says: “President Cleveland is apparently willing to run the risk of war with England in support of monstrous and unjustifiable claims for the purpose of appealing on the eve of an elec- tion contest to the baser elements of the population of the United States.” The Gazette says: *Of course, if the Americans want war with England, then war it must be—a great crime for those who promote it, the enormity of which is made absolutely clear by the flimsiness of their pretended claims in equity and justice.” 7 e o EFFECT ON STOCKS. American Securities Unsettled and Weak at London. LONDON, E~G., Dec. 18.—The Stock Exchange market opened quiet and steady, Aexteptin case of the American railroad | 2 ey stocks, which were unsettled and weak under the influence of President Cleve- land's Venezuelan message. Railroads were flat and the other markets disorgan- ized. Consols were down 4. PARIS, Fraxce, Dec. 18.—fhe Bourse here was somewhat affected to-day by the messaze of President . Cleveland to the American Congress on the Venezuela- British Guiana boundary question, While it was got regarded by operators that war would Yesult between the United States and England, but rather that England would save her dignity without extreme measureg being resorted to, it was thought, nevertheless, that the friction between the two countries would produce regrettable consequences. ROME, IraLy, Dec. 18.—Some alarm was felt on the Bourse here to-day as to the relations between Great Britain and the United States. BERLIN, GerMANY, Dec. 18.—The mes- sage of President Cleveland to Congress in regard to the differences with Great Brit- ain alarmed the operators on the Bourse here. VIENNA, Avsrria, Dec. 18.—The Bourse, which has been unsteady ever since the recent crisis, was greatly af- fected by the message sent to the Con- gress of the United States by President Cleveland in reference to the Venezuelan boundary. Zeiesuged s GRATEFUL VENEZUELA. Crespo Preparing a Letter of Thanks to Cleveland. NEW YORK, N. Y., Dec. 18.—The Herald's special cable from Caracas, Vene- zuela, says: President Crespo was interviewed yes- terday upon Mr. Cleveland’s message transmitted to the United States Congress with the Anglo-Venezuelan correspond- ence. Crespo said that he was preparing a personal letter of thanks to President Cleveland. He added: “The attitude of Venezuela and of her ex- ecutive head upon the boundary question in Guiana will always be one of self-pro- tection. The republic will uphold rights that properly may be regarded as hers at all hazards. President Cleveland and my- self were both as one in losing and regain- ing power, and certainly it seems as if we were one in destiny and in action.” ————— ARGENTINA ENTHUSIASTIC. The News of the President’s Message Well Received. NEW YORK, N. Y., Dec. 19, —The Herald this morning prints the following cable: BUENOS AYRES, ARGENTINA, Via Gal- veston, Tex., Dec. 18,—The general topic of discussion here in official and business circles is the message of President Cleve- land on the Venezuelan boundary. Outside the English colony, who regard the message as & mere threat, the reception of its interpretation of the Monroe doc- trine is enthusiastic. General Mitre says that he has always been in hearty accord with the principle enunciated in the doe- trine, and that he can say with authority thav the same view is held by the acting President of Argentina, General Roca. BEADY TO DECLARE WAR There Is No Division of Public Sentiment in San Fran- cisco. Men of All-Classes Affirm That the + Monroe Doctrine Should and Will i Be Maintained. In Fan Francisco there is scarcely a di- vision of public sentiment on the question of enforcing the Monroe doctrine. All classes, without regard to party distinc- tiom, indorse the President’s message and appland Congress for its prompt and patriotic action in sustaining the chief executive. Atworpey-General Fitzgerald was brief and to the point in giving expression to his opinion of the President’s message and the situation. He said of the first: “It is a manly and American expression of the sentiments of the people. The Monroe doctrine applies to this situation, not- withstanding the opinion of the New York World, and its principles should be enforced, even if it means a fight. There is no jingoism in the message. It rises far above political parties and appeals to the Americanism of every citizen of the United States.” John P. Irish, Naval Officer of San Francisco, is delighted with the tone and spirit of the message. He expressea his sentiments in this langunage: ‘At last we have in the Presidert’s mes- sage a clear, official and authoritative in- terpretation of the Monroe doctrine, de- rived directly from the terms in which its author expressed it. “John Quincy Adams was Mr, Monroe’s Secretary of State and succeedetl him in the Presidency. They doubtless wrought together over the declaration that further colonization or extensjon of European sys- tems in the Americas would be regarded as an act unfriendly to the United States. Yet when Adams construed this language, within four years of its utterance, he limited it to an intention that each of the nations of the Americas for itself should forbid further spread of European systems by encroachment upon it. “The Panama congress has attempted to get all the Americas together for a joint interpretation of the Monroe doctrine, but that-congress never met. Mr. Clay at- tempted.to secure a construction by our own Congress, but failed, seeming to lack the power to state why the Monroe doc- trine is judicative under international law. It was over this question that Clay and Randolph. fought their duel, which was the only powder burned because of the Monroe doctrine until Maximillian was shot at Queretara. “Mr Cleveland has given to the phrase, ‘unfriendly to the United States,’ the natural force which Adams strangely overlooked. It is a sole concern of this Government that the weaker continental neighbors shall not be coerced by any European power to relinquish territory. This is a right necessary to our existence. Its relation to international law is at last stated by Mr. Cleveland with such power and plainness that his construction will take the place of what it construes. Now that it is stated, it seems plain that we entered the family of nations panoplied in all rights vital to our existence, and that we are judge of these, and among them is denial of extension of European systems in the two Americas either by colomzation, conquest or purchase. The rights of any nation are as extensive as it is willing to defend. We will defend this. “Itis an interesting coincidence,”. said Mr. Irish, “that I received yesterday a letter from a iriend in Europe—a scholar, observer and journalist—who has a wide acquaintance with the thinkers and publicists of the Continent and Great Britain, in which he says that it is the opinion of the thinkers and observers | throughout Europe that Mz, Cleveland is | the foremost statésman now in power in any nation of the world. Gladstone and Bismarck are in eclipse; France has no great man in sight; Salisbury has only sporadic experience; and the philossphers turn to this country and Mr. Cleveland for an example of those high qualities which attract the world’s attention. The writer is an American.” Judge J. E. Daly said: “The Monroe doctrine is sound and applies to just this case if to any. The position taken by President Cleveland is strictly American, manly and upright, and more than that he voices the sentiments of the people. Asto the enforcement of this dectrine it should be done at any cost in order to up- hold and maintain the honor and standing of this Nation. If Great Britain does not keep her hands off she should be made to doso. As to the appointment of a com- mission as suggested by the President, that deals with the manner in which the end should be accomplished. While the TUnited States assumes that the little South American neighbor is béing imposed upon by a powerful European power the case isnot oue for supposition but one for in- vestigation. If we go into this fight we must have the matter futly looked into so as to be able to show to the world the basis upon which we are fighting. But such matters are simply the details. The main question is shall we uphold the Mon- roe doctrine as advised by the President? I say yes, every time, and this time in particular.” Crarles H. Jackson, the Attorney-Gen- eral’s assistant, has given much study to international law and particularly to the Monroe doctrine now being so widely dis- cussed. He said that the President’s mes- sage is an enunciation of the Monroe doc- trine as interpreted by the American peo- ple. While it may not specify such a case or circumstance as the present controversy the spirit of the article applies directiy to the case in question. He added: “This Nation has.been bulldozed long enough by the British, and the masses are getting tired of having Uncle Sam sit com- placently by and let England have her own way in everything. We wantto fight, and more than that we want to fight Great Britain. We have a long list of old scores to settle, and tke people have reached that point where they want to have the score wiped out by giving the British another good thrashing., After the Bluefields troubles and several other controversies there is an idea prevailing in the minds of the British, and I may say among all the civilized nations, that the United States- is afraid to stand by her colors and fight. This bullyozing - on England’s part has gone too far, and I hope the American people will not stand it any longer but fight it out.” General John McComb said concerning the threatened war: ‘‘The people have wanted it for a long time, and I am glad of this opportunity for them to fulfill their dssires. The President’s message voices the sentiment of the people, and jingoism cuts no figure in the pbsition he has taken. Itisabove and entirely outside of party lines, and with the American vpeople I indorse the action. If it means war then let 1t be war, and I am not uneasy about the termination of the fight.” It was in no uncertain language that Major Thomas J. Blakeney, superintendent of the United States Life-saving Service of the Twelfth District, expressed himself: “I donot believe thet the United States should go to the trouble or lose the time in having a commission investigate & matter that every public man in this country is familiar with. The general public fully understands the situation, which is that this is only another move on the part of the British to secure more ter- ritory for nothing, as she has been doing for'years. Iam in favor of beginning the' circus by sénding warships down to Vene- zuela and telling the British to keep their, hands oft or fight. “The British Government has attempted to wrest from a puny nation, and our sister republic, territory to which it has no right, and it will not even consent to arbitrate as to the rights in the premises, but takes by force of arms 1f necessary. “The same thing was done with this country back in the forties—I believe when Polk was President of the United States. The British by their tricks ana bulldozing tactics took Vancouver Island away from us as soon as they realized that it was a valuabie property. “Look at the recentand, I may say, pres- ent Alaskan boundary controversy. The old boundary was never disputed until it was found that very rich gold deposits bad been discovered in Alaska. Then ‘the British lion reaches out his paw and slaps it over our most valuable portion of Alas- kan possessions. If matters go on at this rate it will not be long before the British will find an old boundary line and take it in Maine;Montana or a few of the valu- able Pacific Coast States. ‘When asked if he considers the United States strong enough at present to meet the forces of England on land and water Major Blakeney answered: ““We never have been in such a strong position before. The British warships could destroy a few small cities on the At- lantic Coast, but the big cities would be amply protected by American warships. As to the Pacific Coast there need be no fear of trouble. The United States would seize Victoria and Vancouver Island for the first move, and that would deprive the British of one of their best coaling stations in the world and give them to the United States. It would also give us one of the best drydocks on the coast. Deprived of these two necessaries a British fleet would be powerless and useless on thiscoast. We have ample fortifications and harbor de- fense vessels to protect San Francisco and Puget Sound ports. We would bave no difficulty in capturing our neighbors’ pos- sessions north of the Sound. Yes, I am heartily in favor of jumping into the fight, and losing no time about it either. “As to the United States being prepared for & war with England, I am firmly of the opinion that we are as well prepared aswe could be in times of peace. ‘In times of peace prepare for war,’ is an old saw, and that is just what has been done. The biggest preparation for war is always after the war has started. With our vast resources it would take but a little time to put together the best navy that ever floated, which will never be done in times of peace, because there would be no necessity for it.” Joseph Leggitt indorsed the message un- qualifiedly. *I think it one of the best state papers,” said he, *‘that Mr. Cleveland hasever written. It is a calm, dignified and statesmanlike document, and I am in entire sympathy with the principles ex- pressed in it. Iam a firm adherent of the Morroe doctrine and believe the United States should maintain it at any cost. “I do not imagine that the English and American people can be drawn into war. But I believe it the duty of this country that no European power shall extend its Government'on American soil on any pre- text whatever, % “When I was a boy I olayed a game u]!a(‘i’,shmny, and while plaving it we would frequently *Shinny on your own side or yegu will ?;yt hurt, "yundyI think European powers should observe the same rule—to keep on- their own side; if they do not they will get hurt. p principles expressed were “L believe the sincere. I give Cleveland credit for being that much of an American that his senti- ments forced him to the course he has taken, and I think the universal approval his course has met proves this fact.” “The message is exceedingly sound and American,” said Dr. N. J. Bird. “It is very strong ‘and will be indorsed by all loyal Americans. I consider it a sincere expression of American sentiment. Old England will bluster a little while and finally succumb to the inevitable. The Monroe doctrine must prevail. “Cleveland the old blatherskite,” said James 8. Reynolds, president of the Single Tax Society, ‘ha§ written this to turn the public attention from his own ugly self. “The principles are what the whole na- tion cannot help but admire and second. But I do not believe in pushing the matter to hostilities, that I believe would prove a fearful catastrophe to the progress of our race.” “I think well of Mr. Cleveland’s mes- sage,” said Colonel A. W. Jones, president of the Fresno and Monterey Railroad. “The action should have been taken long ago, but he is wrong in some of his state- ments. For instance, he says that if it chooses Venezula may cede the disputed property to the English and that then we cannot interfere.” “Thisis wrong and nota proper interpre- tation of the Monroe doctrine. The ces- sion of any territory on this continent is, by the Monroe doctrine, and in fact, a menace to the United States. It makes no difference how it Is done. “And, otherwise, it knocks the Monroe doctrine to pieces, and we might as well says that it is a dead and gone rule of con- duct. The message as a whole is very commendable, Itis good and strong, and with the exception I have mentioned is the kind of a one we should have had long since. I don’t know whether we will fizht or not, but I know we ought to if the Brit- ish in any way violate the Monroe doc- trine.” “In my opinion it is a neat piece of polit- ical work, and possibly not so neat asit might be either,” said J. T. Gove, the widely known mining man, referring to the President’s message. “I have talked to a good many men about it to-day and this seems to be the general opinion with them, *It is an auspicious moment for Mr. Cleveland to get in and say something, and iv is for political effect. If I was to say it was largely buncombe I think that it would about fit it. “We will have a commission, no doubt however, in accordance with the recom- mendation to Congress for an appropria- tion, and Cleveland will appoint some man like Blount of Hawaiian notoriety onit. He'll go down and begin to take evidence about the boundary. “There will be a mass of thisand it will take a long time to get it, and by that time we shall be ready to nominate some more Presidents. Cleveland will be in it for the nomination, if possible, and a great grand-stand play will be made for and by him on the score of patriotism. “But nobody will see any war. It will all be fixed up and the President will have got his capital out of it. That’s about the way I figure it. We don’t fight as easy as we talk, yet I think we ought to fight if any one has actually trampled on our toes.” Captain J. W. Morse, the veferan. mar- iner, who has sailed his different ships into many ports of the globe, said: “I am fairly conversant with the Vene- zuela situation, and have many friends down in Venezuela who in recent years have {,ld me much about how things were working there. But as far as the boundary is concerned I don’t think we know where 1t is, or ever did. “I think Great Britain is possibly en- titled to more territory than we have gen- erally believed, and that in going to the extreme limits of the boundary Great Britain has possibly overstepped and gone beyond. I believe aiso that when a sur- vey is made they will settle it by a com- promise. 3 ‘It is certainly a golden opportunity for Mr. Cleveland to place himself before the public in a light very different from that which the public have entertained gen- erally of him. It is a lucky chance, and he and his friends will make the most of it. It was a good'opportunity to come out with such a message and will make con- siderable of a hit, whether it originated with the President or some of his shrewd Democratic friends. ““Besides this it gives the President a chance to even up with himself in the mistake he made in regard to Admiral Meade in Nicaragua not long ago. “Itis just as well for usto remember, however, that this nation with which we are having trouble down in Venezuela is the same nation that has been sending its warships to the varjous islands of the globe and gobbling them up, asking no- body’s leave whatever. “8till, when it comes to a matter of a war between England and the United States, I cannot help asking myself what other countries would say of the two na- tions who have been draining their Sun- day-schools and churches of vast sums each year and sending the money andimis- sionaries to convert heathens and teach peace. Great Britain and America are the nations that have been doing it. The peo- ple of each speak the same tongue. I do not believe they will fight. “But the message comes at an auspicious moment, is able, and no doubt will make the President a great many friends.” Campbell P. Berry, Assistant United States Treasurer—The message is all right, just as I expected from Grover. It is American—strictiy in accordance with American sentiment. If England will not arbitrate then the only way for us to do1s to examine into the merits of the case and govern ourselves accordingly. John P. Dunn, Register of the United States Land Office—The message is an ex- cellent one. It meets with my approba- tion. William 8. Green, United States Sur- veyor-General—It’s a pretty strong docu- ment. 1f we want the Monroe doctrine, thatis it. I'don’t think-much of jingoism myself. I think the United States has enough to do to attend to her own business without going outside to attend to the af- fairs of Venezuela, Cuba, Hawaii, or even Alaska. Iwould even let Alaska go. If we would enlarge our own territory by tak a slice of Canada or Mexico I would be in favor of it, but I don’t believe in bother- ing with territory which is remote from our own. We ought to stand like a big mud turtle and stay right in our own shell, and then if anybody bothers us fight like— well, fight, that's all. If we go off anywhere to fight we will eet licked. We are a great land country, with vast area of territory and extensive coast line poorly protected. Yetif I had been in Cleveland’s place I should have done exactly as he did. ‘The people -have gone crazy on the Monroe doctrine and he has given it to them. They have been calling him a “Miss Nancy” and he has given them a very agreeable surprise. It now depends on Congress what shall be done [this Iast sentence with a very sig- nificant expression and movement]. John H. Wise, Collector of Customs—I expected Cleveland would come out all rights. He has.been veagy conservative all along, but I knew that when the right time came he would act. Of course I can- not speculate on what the results will be any more than anybody eise, but I am satisfied that the President has taken a course which will meet with the almost unanimous approval of the country. Oscar M. Welburn, Collector of Internal Revenue—I think it's about right. Yes; I indorse it. I don’t believe in jingoism, either; but I believe in the United States taking a strong stand. Louis Loupe, Chief Deputy Collector of Internal Revenue—[ think it's a very manly document. Cleveland has made a sensation. TYesterday he was unpopular; to-day he is very popular. I believe the American Nation is able to maintain any principle it asserts. Let the European governments keep their hands off the American continent. Robert E. Doyle, Assistant Postmaster— I don’t think we will be able to carry out the Monroe doctrine the way we want to without involving ourselves in a lot of trouble. At the same time the country is determined not to back down on this Pproposition. Henry 8. Foote, United States District Attorney — Magnificent, and states the American doctrine as Cleveland always does everything—with patriotism and force. Barry Baldwin, United States Marshal— It’s magnificent, and entirely in accord with the course of Cleveland. The Presi- dent is right—that the matter should be submitted to arbitration. The Monroe doctrine is such that the American people will uphold it. Of course the President is sincere. He has been too outspoken aman to be anything but sincere. Major-General W. H. Dimond, division commander of the National Guard of Cali- fornia, believes in the enforcement of the Monroe doctrine, but has always enter- tained the opinion that it should not be extended further than its application to North America. He said last nignt: ‘‘Since the administration has asseried the application to the entire Western Hemisphere it is the duty of all Americans to sustain the President, and I am sure that he will be unanimously supported. I admire the tone and patriotic spirit of the message, and am gratified that Con- gress so readily sustains the President. Yes, the National Guard of California can be relied on. There will be no women and children in our way the next time. So far as the soldiers of the National Guard are concerned they are ready for the fray. They are ready to respond whenever called.” Judge Wallace declares that it is of no sort of importance what he thinks, but these are his ideas: “Mr. Cleveland’s message puts it with a force that has struck a responsive chord in every true American heart. The Presi- dent has immortalized himself by taking the stand be has. He would have been infamous if he had not. The Monroe doc- trine embodies a principle asdear to Amer- icans as liberty itself. It is the founda- tion of our respect among the nations of the earth. “Washington, in his farewell address, forecasted the doctrine that Monroe estab- lished. Monroe was a man to whom de- served credit has not been given. He was President for two terms, and actually re- fused a third term because he wished to attend to his private business. This re- fusal was so unlooked for that the an- nouncement came as a surprise, and Clay, Adams, Jackson and others suddenly pre- cipitated themselves into a steeplechase for the Presidency that a short time before they bad conceded to Monroe. “The United States must ascertain if Great Britain’s claim as to the Vene- zuelan boundary line is right. A com- mission ought to decide it in less than sixty days. If it is a just claim or Vene- zuela willingly concedes it the United States has nothing more to say. It has no desire to-dictate; only to .see thata weak, little country is not imposed upon by one of the greatest powers on earth, and that the principle of the Monroe doctrine is preserved inviolate. “If the claim is unfounded the United States must prevent the encroachment or it is disgraced. _But the Government should not assume a hostile attitude until Great Britain is known to be in the wrong. “Circumstances may have changed since the doctrine was promulgated, but princi- ples have not changed. “‘England would not go to war, for the United States would surely scoop Canada and British America at the very start, and if it ever got possession Great Britain would never get them back. England will not take such a risk.” ““The President's messaze meets with my approval,”’ remarked W. . Montague, “but I think tne President should have been less brusque and more diplomatic in asserting the position of this country. The opportunity should have been given Eng- land to recede. In my judgment Great Britain will not go to war on this boundary dispute. Some settlement by arbitration will ultimately be effected.” Charles Sonntag frankly asserted that he was delighted with the message—so de- lighted that he had read it twice. ‘‘Let us enforce the Monroe doctrine to its full en- tent. Itis time now that Americans stood up firmly for the honor of the Nation—at home and abroad. The assertion of our rights, backed with a determination to use force, will compel that respect from other countries which has not been given to the United States. Let me say, also, thatI —— NEW TO-DAY. l Skillful and careful men fill our mail orders “Through Thick and Thin.” Our artist' will not be serious—this is Christm‘s and business is good. “Through thick and thin” runs the scale of sizes we carry. Lean and stout men !—in our stock you are well cared for. ‘We, alone, can save you from the tailor, Christmas! Gifts! 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