The New York Herald Newspaper, June 23, 1876, Page 4

4 - SOUTHERN SENTIMENT The Old Dominion Prefers Bayard, but Doubts His Availability. DELAWARE DETERMINED. ERT A Tilden’s Strength in Georgia and Other Southern States. HANCOCK LOOMING OP AS A CANDIDATE DELAWARE. THE BAYARD DELEGATION HAS HO SSCOND CHOICE. Witurxaton, June 16, 1876, ‘The six delegates which little Delaware will nave ip the St Louis Convention wil! andoubtedly go asa anit. Their solid weight will be auited tor Senator Bayard, Delaware's ‘favorite son,” who bolis the de- ‘mocracy of this Si in te Dollow of his hand §=As ap Mustration of the influence of the Senator and the det- erence paid to bim a litte incident in the inside bis- tory of the Democratic State Convention at Dover last Tuesday isin point. The Committee on Resolutions, when they retired for deliberation, bad placed before them, as part of the platfurm, a resolution favor pg hard money. 11 was immediately and decidedly voted down by uvote of 11t)4 Then the manuscript was showu to be in the handwriting of Mr, Bayard bimself, and the announcement was made that he bad sent particular request irom Washington that the resolution shou.d ve . mbodied in the plattorm. Upon this the soft money men meekly submitted, and upon a xecond vote Uhe pill was ewailowed una the proposition adopted by & vote of I4'to- 1, being afterward read to and adopied by the Convention without a dissenting voice, although there were many rag money advocates amoug the members. Persoual fealty can nu further xo, and it {8 mot to be wo dered at tuat Sena or Bayard is the UDAnIMOUS Choice of tLe democratic party of Delaware, THE SECOND CHOICE ot tho delegation is far wore siguiticant, In view of the fact that Bayard may be deemed an available canuidate AUSt Louis, and your correspondent hus taken more pains to quire us to Whom the delegates will avor, ye doiegates trom Neweustle county ure Hon. W. 8. Whitey aud George Gray, bo n of Wilmington. Mr, Wuieiy is the Mayor of Wilmington, a popular man bly the icuuer of the State delegation, aiter » White y, w Jee, emphut.cally declared tor Bayard, Vores frst ch could ve counted for hin from Vennsylvania and New Jersey and from the Southern States, and be wus very likely 10 ve w siroug candidate, He did not sik to ud- mit the possiblity of Bayard’s tuilure to get the um. inaticn, bur admitted that nis secoud choice would be ‘Vilden.” Alter this he was undecided, Mr. Gray, his culleagus, was ol the samo way of thinking. His tirst ciu.ce, personally and politically, is bayord by all means, his second Tilden apd bis third unsectacd. BAYARD AND CAUTION, From Kent County ex-Goveruor Gove Saulsbury and Jour W, Hail will go Lo St. Louis ay tue represeniatives vi tue disiict, My. Sausbury 18 a Veteran politician, Abu certaiuly one of the ablest meu intue state, 1 regrt wot to have Lad tme to bunt bim up for a personal interview, but L secured bis opiuiovs irom several trustworthy sources, aud found Bayard is his Siucere lis: cuoice, ONL that’ ulter Lim be «ili express no opvnion, In reply to a letter audresseu to tim On the suuject, he declined to express an opinion us to his secoud ebotee, saying ue bus none, and will not bave unie-s events at Si, Louis inake it necessary. Jobn W. Hall may be put duwn as probably for Tilden, aiter payard, bui excep’ (hat Bayard 18 his favorite, be deci xive bs views. Colonel Edward L. Martiu and Ur, Charles E. Rich ards ure the delegates irom Su Bowh are great admirers oi Senator Bayard aud will vote ior him, I Buyara should not bave strengih enough to secure the nomination these delegates will be guided by tim in transferring tueir votes eisewhere. Both genvemen rejused to venture upon talking about who their see- oud choiceamight be, having no upinious upon the sub- Jeet, PAYARD’S CONTROL OF THR DELEGA 10%, Tn summing up it may be std chat the second choice of the Delaware delegates 18 disposed to be driden, but they are ail entirely under the cuntrol of Mr. Bayard’s wishes, itmay be counted upon with certainty that Deiaware’s vote in ihe Convention will go wherever Bayard directs. Tbe present uncertainty of some Members of the a ound cho.ce comes from ignosauce a jet. Three o the six ure inciined toward Tildeu, Wuose re- lations with Bayard ure of the irienditest character, hut they will ail go wherever the Senator directs, VIRGINIA. & DUMB CONVENTION—VIEWS OF SOME OF THE DELEGATES TO ST. LOUIS, Ricuuonp, June 1, 1876, Virginia's dumb Convention is over, the mov of delegates are ali gone and the city has relapsed into its usual dull, orderly and quiet routine of daily ife. In the very dumbness uf the Convention is claimed to be {ts greatist aud finest stroke of pohtical policy. While the excelleut and able delegation accredited to the Nutional Deinocratic Convention at St. Louis is npinstructed, unpie iged and uncommitted, and bound by no policy that can possibly conflict with the great interests at siake in the coming Presidential campaign, it 18 urgued, vy what I take to be the very best author- ity, that the delegation 18 as strictiy a Tilden delega- tion as 11 bad the most positive instructions to that effect trom the: Convention. All the Tilden organs fxpress themselves, im a quiet, calm way, as being periectly sutistied with the work of the Convention and with its delegation. All personal preier- ences aro dispeusea with for the common good; but that was an easy matter, as Bayard and Hancock monopolized these, wether of #hom are regarded by their admirers as safe men to nomiuate, A politician whose views are always correct fem irked \o me that 11 Bayard were nominated it would be considered im ihe South equivaent to giving up the Aght aud leaving the field for the republicam candidate to walk over, Hancock would create more enthusiasm and would get au active support, but regarding the con- test as extremely doubtful in any espect of the cause, polieians here seem to be convinced that If they can’t win wih Tilden they can‘t win at all. They have care- fully weigued pablic # ut ment, particuarly in the North, and they huve canvassed the chances of every Presidential aspirant humed jor the ceutenuial uomina- tion, always arriving at the inevitable coaclusion that the ght must be made with the New York Governor @ stiudard bearer Of the emocracy. ‘OF tiese reasons ihe deegutes have their personal preferences, in expressing which the inevitable “but”? — turos up VIEWS OF FITZHUGH LER. Just previous to tue departure of (be afternoon train yotug Sori | dropped into tue Excuunge Hotel, and teeing Gevera Fizuugh Lee amoug the cro vd of aela Bales preparing to leavé 1 accos ed bum. The Genera! tourteously asked me to accompany bim to bis room, Where, as be packed bis vause, we bud a very brief put pleasant conversation, Unexpectedly to bimseif the Geperal was vesteruay elected one of the delegates: St. Lours, tor (here ts no bovor the people of would not be wi lug couier on Fitz Lee, eral, what do you make out of the action o1 the uy celiberately, “nothing.” ‘What do you deem to be the sentiment of the deic- tes to St. Louis with regard to the aspirants for the residential ominawon!” “P thnk a large majority of them individually preier Bayard, but sew ol them, f any, have aay idea that Mr. Bayard will Le brow bt out tor ibe nomima- thon. Whrie or would obtun & large support trom the Bouth he would correspousingly lose in the North, id tor this reason, \owever much he may be hiked, | ted. being a Hancock man, Gee “Well, yes; Lam rather in lined'that way. Weare both West Poiuters; 1 gravuated ihere after Hancock, Aud you kuow bow it is, just Like being at col tau l get tig of it, wand Haucuck is a Uret mt sOuier ito the bargain, We all nke yu think bim available?” ‘As Co that, I'm not prepared to say. That seems to be thy poitiew! counn. rum with everybody just now." “What oo you thiak of Goveraor iluen?” “Tuden see sto be strong; but | was out Weat re- Cenily, ant where he is very unpopular. They have it him fof the part be tuon against Aven. fhe 'y sore AbUUL IL It ts stated, too, that be can’t aie Aliogether, I dou't know what to delegation do at St, Lous from Virginia is a good one, They will be guided ent rely by circumstances After a tall and free iwercbanxe oF opmou bey will cast ther ‘votes lot the candidate Who & most acceptable to (be ove who will comvie im the mos Hi tue elements o1 success.” you have declived the majorship Of the Cent jon” “| was tendered the majorsb p of the legion by te five cumpunies trom the States of Virginia, Maryiand, Bor. b Caroiiwa, + oath Caroline wud Georgia, but it will ‘be impossible jor me to aitony, The St. Louis Conven- Merts on the 27iu It wall probably be in session ¥ days, and as 1 want to remain there tora whie Chih an oF urmy companio Who was on my sat darmg the war it will be impossible for me to yet back fo tine For these reasons I deciined to go to Phiia | pertinent. questioned us to bis | SEE RTT TEAR ae a eee NEW YORK HERALD, FRIDAY, JUNE 23, {876—TRIPLE SHEET delphia aud so stated to the commitiee, but I bi beard from them since.” “Toen you don't know been accepted?’ ; | doa’t know what they bave done about it.’ then, taking bis vulise, bid me adiea at burried tothe omnibus. [t will be seen from (his interview that while the General hus bis choice of can- not ether your declination bas that choice, Availubility ic the order oi the day, and much us has been sa:d against Tilden he is still cousid- ered the available man. ANOTHER DUMB DELEGATE. One of the beads of the Virginia gation as @ delegate at large ts Mr. ‘0. bil, who bas been the leader of the democrats in the House of Representatives for a number of terms. He was selected tv go to St. Louis be- cause of his thorough knowledge of national politics, his cool, deliberate judgment, aud bis ability to carry out the wishes of the people. Asa representative of the sentiment of the delegation I asked him what candi. | date for the democratic nomination they favored. He replied, “They javor po cundidaie, as the Convention which elected them expreasea no preference for any.” “Inuividually, whow do you preier?”” “1 preter Bayard to any other map.” “Is be the personal choice of the delegation to St. Lous?” “IT believe he is, but no one of them has any idea he will be nominated. He is a strict state rights man, ib accord with tbe political sentiment of tue people of the South, and commacds ther bighest regard and esteem. They would ail prefer him though none of ‘hem believe he will be nominated.” “hs Tilden the choice of any of the delegates f"" “Iden't know; that will be determined hereafter. For myself, ! have kept wy mind ‘ree irom all embar- rassments and complications I will go to St Louis anu vote for the best man, whoever bg may be.’? Colonel H. E. Peyton, delegate from the Eighth dis- trict, was in favor of the stroogeet mau at St Lous, whoever that wil be, Personally, he preferred Mr. Bayard, but he did. not even consider that gentieman would be in the feild, and that ifhe was bis nomination would give preut dissatisfaction to the North Mr, G Harmon, of Augusta couuty, deiegate from the Seventh disirict, personally tavors some Westera An. supposed to be Thurman, He will, however, be guided by events at St. Louis, Colonel T. U' Brien, one of Lhe delegates from the Third district, Isa native 'o! Herkimer county, New York, who seeved gailantly in the Que Huuired aud Fifty- second regiment o: that State. He ls now developing the material tntcrests of Virginia by coal twining, and baving been a member of Tammany in its beter days ts ut the samo time giving the natives a helping hand in the political line. A litte polities and a good deal of coal mining goes @ tar way to make a man popular in the Old Dominion = Mr. O'Brien, from bis early associations and sympathies, Is put down as a Tilden man, and I think rig 00. He favors Governor Walker tor the Vice Presidency, but as the Governor Was not sent a8 a de.egate at large to St. Louls be will not probably be brought forward for that high office. rt Mr. O'Brien can be counted upon for the cand date of bis native State in the absence of any other conflicting interests. Judge Meredith, of this city, has nochoice of candl- ates; buts he isqueted by a Tiden organ os being saie be may be credived to that candidate, Mr. 8. V. Southall, a delegate srom the Eighth dis- trict, hig a personal preterence for Bayard, like a ma- Jority of the de.egation, but ne will cast his vote for the Tight man at St Louw NORTH CAROLINA. THE PERSONAL PREFERENCE OF THE DELEGA- TION FOR BAXYARD—FEARS AS TO HIS AVAIL- ABILITY—DIVIDED 6ENTIMENT ON THE MONEY QUESTION. del A. Raveion, June 19, 1876, North Carolina will be represented at the St Louis Convention by twenty delegates, being two for each o/ her eight Congressional disiricts and four for the State at large, To ascertain the whereabouts of this score of men, bailing trom every section of this territorially great Commonwealth, and busily moving, most of them, :n these bustiiug and restless days, from point to point, so that their homes are about the last Place 10 go in quest of tnem, to actually come up with them; then to get at them not too abruptly and ancere- moniously, aud firally, to inducw them to communi- cave their views upon the important topic of the Presi- dency, a8 to which hardly one im ten of them hay definitively made up bis mind—all this is a task of no mean magnitude and requiring no small resources of diplomacy, By the atd, however, of active, alert and Patient assistunts, the HegaLp commission has suc- eceded in covering this entire eid of inquiry and in in- terviewing, either direetly or indirectly, every one of the North Carolina delegates to the great yathering of the democratic clans and sections to be held on the 27th inst. at St. Louis, THR DELEGATES AT LARGE neral Thomas L. Clingman, of Buncombe; Pau aro aod Henry B. Short, of Columvus. They were ap- poiuted by the Demooratic State Convention held here onthe 14th mst. With General Clingman, whose distinguished politi- cal record and innate force of character makes him the reader of the delogatiun, I had several conversa- tions, the substance of wiich is as follows:— “Have you any preterence, General, tor the Prosi- a tion, like mysef, g» to St. Louis entirely uapledged and uncommitted.” “But, General, quite a number of your fellow dele- gates huve expressed u preterence.” “Yex, that isso, I suppose; but men sometimes don’t know their own minds. We ougut to regurd oursvives as called upon to act im the capacity of jurors who should not ‘have formed or expressed an opinion,’ but who should address themselves to the discharge of their duties without prepossessions or prejudices.” “1 hardy know what to say to that pvint, Gencral It may be the right view, but it is cervainly a rather novel position tor a public man to take."” “Well, you newspaper men are irrepressible. When Iwas in New York a few weeks ago L was surprised at seeing 1m the Sun un account of an interview ulieged to have been had with me by arepurterof hut paper. 1 bad talked to n0 reporter, to my knowledge, «hd | sup- pose he must have uverheard some conversation ot mine with other gentlemen. | have no particular ob- jection to these interviews, but [don’t quite like the idea of being interviewed without either my kuowledge or consent. Nor do I altogether tancy naving words put tuto my mouth which L never uttered. [he HERALD, however, bas a:ways treated me fairly in this maitor, and hag never misrepresented me that | am aware of.” “sappose, General, you were the Warwick of the politica: situation, who would.you muke President? 1 mean, of course, without regurd to availavility and on the supp sition tuat your choice was conclusive." “Personally | would go for Bili Allen und nis plat form; bu that, as I am at present advised, appears out of the question. Alleu’s financial Views are much mis- understood. He is no iitlatiouist—at Je: sone 01 advocating a redundant currency. So far trom wishing to have a depreciated currency, our plan 1s to bring groenvacks up 10 par vaiue in specie by making private, including wuttes on inports, fhe only demand for guid uoW, Ouside Of the ew people Who Want to houra “it, 1» (o sete with the Custom House oiicers, ‘The sact is, his method would imsure the very result { which the Fesumption act pretends to aim at | But we } do not iusistou this We are wiling to sacrifice our | Wishes and ou, lateresis in this respect if it wul aid us to ovta.n a change of government. ' auif there } money question |. cin vias event—and Iam glad you meuttoued t—t | @hould conceive it to be vur guty LO attach ourselves to j the stronze-t on—1n Ober Wurus, to siand on the | largeat aud Mos seaworthy tragment of the wreck. 1 aim pretty confident that we would all got together aygaiu by the secoud Tuesday in November. If ihe parcy Were uivived in Ol ey Might, HOLWithstand- tug. UNE Upon aD electoral ticket iu Opposition 10 the Fepubiicans, having it unders that the electors were to vote for the rival democratic candidates jor the Pregidency 1 proportion to the nutuoers of the supporters ol each, Which could ly determined by uc anvass of the democratic vorer “What do you (hink of tue resul: ac Cinernmati he action uf the Cinciwuad Couveution will have & material efec: im determining OUF actiON at St Louis, If Blaine Lad ben pominatd | coud tel you a once who | think suould be putup agwiost tim, 1 Couk- Ting boa got the pomimation it aigot have become a question wheiber it would wot Le betier ty abandon ail hopes ot New York und a, piy our efor.s \ the West. Anu so ewe verva now with Hayes. “What du you say to Joel Parker, of New Jersey, as bow are with an Odio man tu the Ged?" jouid bea split at St, Louis on this thr “I never kuew a winging borse wamed Joel, but there might be oue. Seriously, tuough, [don’t know but that Parker might run as well as ciluen, New Jersey is, practically, & part o New York. At leasi a great many New York city business men live there Rights aod suudays, aud the whole tate may be con- siverod a sort of suburbs of the city of New York ” “Way woulum't Clingman, 0: North Carouna, answer for the ‘unknown horse?’ > *Yn, nol tat Would pever do. ‘C’ is an aolucky initial fora Presidential aspirant There were Clay, Calbouw, Cas, Crittenden aud Clay And ow Couk ing bas missed it, Bat come, { vel bive a } bottle of cluret ie!), Ahich is the strongest beverage I allow my-e.t of tate years.” Coiouel Whartua J. Green was found with difficaly, And | ws about 10 xive him up, as be could not be loud at bis bome 10 Waren coa.ty, when Lvortanacely ran across him inthe lobby of the Yarvrough House, He received me courievusiy, and traukly answered my in- qGuities abvat as follows: — “+L persousiiy preter tor the Presiency—firs:, Bayerd, of Delaware, ond, second, Thurman. After SWappiWg Op Dione at Lous {am prepared to 0 any of the gvod and true demvcrats wuo have besa bated A8 candidates tor the now favor Juige David Davia Ut with convert. To tk: him up would vo 4 repetition of the disastrous biun: er, uot wo Bay cite, of the Greciey ex- If deteat is to come it is better tor a great didaies be «ptertains po idea oi casiing bis vote tor: C. Cameron, 01 Orange; Wharton J. Green, of Warren, | t not in the | them receivable im payment of ail devi, public and | carrying | } | Would -utt me admuirabiy.” | New Yorn. } sutucie Nabi b desiravie. “Gut tunure uuder such circumstances 1s cain tous,” “Who do you incline to think, 60 far formed, wil get\,e3t Louis nomination’ “Lthiok Tideo thurman and the rest of thore th far prominently maimed will kill each otber vit on the fist balf dozen ballots and that either Hancock or Juel P rker, of New Jersey, will be the nominee, Either Colcaci Heary B Short tse tall gentleman, despite his curt patronymic. His post office is Flemingtor Columbus couwbiy. He ta past middie age, bul well Preserved. He wears gold-vowed spectacies and a swallow-tailed coat and has the appearanve of a man of Assured positiou. He replied to my questions without itation, Colonel Short said:—"'My choice, ines boing equal, 1s Bayard, my second Ti my third Governor Hendric.s 1 am a bard money man. I disapprove of intlution; but specie payments should not be resumed tov suddenly. think bighty of Joe! Parker as acandisate forthe St Lows + om pe tion, My sous, who were educated at Princeton, =peak Most favorably of bm. f think be woulu make a sirong nominee Notwithetanding my individual pref- erences, however. | would be disposed to an alliance with the Western rather than the Eastern democrats The interests of the South are mainly identical with those of the West, Vuul ©. Cameron, of Willsboro’, Orange coun:y, # & genial and portly specimen of the old Southern gen! mau, His hair t jiver white, bat be has a tull, ruddy tacn and 18 very brisk of movement. was. ver} wealthy before the war and is still a man of amp means When I met him the other day he was care Jeasly attired in ampie white punts, a loosely-fiting brown lien cout, and bad on & Panama hat of nage dimensions. [handed him a letier of introduction from « twutual acquaintance, when he sald, “Do you want to interview me? [am mightily atraid of print- ers’ ink.'’ “1 merely wisb to learo your preference for Presi- dent as one of the deiegates to St. Lows.” ‘“T have no personal preierences whatever that I am Dot willing 10 give up cheertully for the man who cua be elected. Our delesation gers to St. Louis unio structeu and unpledged, and 1 do not think you ger tlemen of the press ought’ to try to maxe | as comm:t ourselves ip advance, it migh hainper us ver riously to see some unguarded and random siatenent pumped out of us unawures by your | correspondents and reporers, paraded in the columns Ol the papers aud delyiug us tu yo back on iL And then, again, we bave not, apy of us, made up our minds fully as to what our action at St. Louis will be “Bat, Mr. Cameron, who would you rather see Presi- dent if the selection were leit to youl meun, of course, outside of all considerations of availaviuty ?" “Well, Iwill suy cunadly about tbat, I bad rather | see Jeremiah 8 Biack, of Pennsyivunia, President of | the United States than any otber living man, My sec- ond choice would be Buyurd, of Delaware.” “How as between H ndricks and | burman?”’ “Weil, on the whole, perhaps, Thurman, We want food money. I think the inflationisis are inerror. 1 ave uO objection, therefore, to Governor Tilden or Jooi Parker on ihe moucy question if our Nortuern frievds think they win Tam lor the winning | horse, wheiher be 1 jark hor: or oue alreauy ep- tered.’ | propose, along with the balance of the Nor.h Carolina delegation, to compare notes at St. Louis and to be governed altogether vy the wisues ana views ofour Northern friepus Tie South wants uo federal offices. We will be content with « change oi govern- ment, We would cheertully surrendor our quota of the offices und give up ali our preserences a8 to botu candi- dates and platiorm in order to secure a svund and hovest aud truly uational administration, 1 am for my race and country.”” FIRST DISTRICT, ‘ {sa gentleman of good standin, liuically, anu bas served laure. His first choice 1s Bayai mau, He told me he had no objection to Kendricks | or Henderson or Tilden or Hancuck. i ‘Thomas G. Skinuer 18 a young attornoy- nd lives ut Hertiord, Perquimaus .ouny. He state his i preierencc® 1D tue following order:—Firet, Hendricks; | second, B yard; third, Hancock. He thinks Tilden not availuble—(bat bis nomiaauion would lose tue West. He is disposeu to be governed by the prevail ew of the uemocracy after consultation at St. Lous. ra ‘Latham und Skinuer were appointed, on the 14th inst, Dy a district Convention culled for the especial purpose, SECOND DISTRICT. William T. Dortch, oue of the delegates trom tho Second d strict, said:—**] favor Tilden if he can carry New York, may app alter consultation at st. Louis; yet there are halt a doz-n men I would prefer persoually—Bayard tor example. We are d'sposed to | be ,overned by the advice ot New York and the otner | great Suites wiich ure to decide the contest. 1 tnink | ‘Tilden and Hendricks would be a xoud ticket,” j Dr. H. &. T. Mauning, the other Gelegate from the Second disirict, 18 editor of the Rounoke News, pub- | lished at Welaon, He tells mehe preiers Bayard, but gous for the strongest man, He says it 18 tuo soon to indicate preferences. THIRD DISTRICT. F. W. Kirchner, merch nt, of Wilmington, is one of the delegates from tue Third district of Nortn Caro- lina, He dodged me <evera! times, but when I at last cornered him he talked very treely. Mr. Kirchner said:—*I am well disposed tow.rd Bayard aud Hen- dricks, Whu would respeouvely be my tirst and second choive; but I consider them out of the Presideaual race, I think Joe. Parker, of New Jersey, may be the coming man He wus the war Governor of the North as iruly a» was Governor Morton. There 18 no impu- tat on of ‘copperieadism? against Parker, Hs loyaity to the Union waa unquestionable, No mau who ever did a kind deed toward the South or expressed # kind feelig sor the Suuthero peuple can in thi reach the Presiden y. Greeley 18 au ios Hoa pity for Jefferson Davis to vis impr.sooment and his views tavoruble to universal amnesiy rumea b cuances. He ran, on the whole, much better tv the pouth than in the North—ih: bere Was less demo- cratic detection from wim bere than there. The people | of North Carolina want more money, and they waut reenbacks mude as guod as gold; but we will cheer- ly sacritice th 8 need of the paramount loon of an honest and economical goverument. I would be gov- erved at St. Louis by the wishes of tuo-e Nor bern States which are democratic, but not by those which are under republican control The South is willing to make uny concessiva und to adupt any test of loyaity for success next Nevember,’"” ‘uu would ‘stoop to cunquer,’ then?” said LL es,” be rep.ted; “we will submit to anything ex- cept a gacritice ot honor, ”? The other di eis. H, Myrover, editor of the Fayettevilie Gazette, I buttonholed bim in the wash- room of the Yarborough. Mr. Myrover said:. want the Northern, Eastern and Western democrats to nominate a democrat, and we will be satistied. We donjt waat David Davis or apy mun not kuown aga democrat. Although willing to concede ail we properly cau (0 the liberal republican element, we want no doubtful maw, I shali go to St. Louis to aid in securing the nomination of a man who will comuine every pos. sible element of strength While [think a postpone. ment of the operation of the Specie Resumption act is desiravie, I regard the fuanci jd all other questions ‘fas entirely suvordiaate to tho higher cousideration of areiorm in the administration of the government, Personally, 1. common with all the North Caroana delegutes, | preier Bayard, bat Delaware's electoral vote is small; New York, asthe Empire State, if we could carry tt, would give the democratic p riy great | prestixe. She could also turu‘sh the sinews of war, 1 | would prefer a caudidate who could carry New York | without the West to one who could carry Obio without | I tavor Tldon it presented by New York | and if the Tammuny and other acnious and interests | fn that State can be united on bem." FOURTH DISTRICT. ‘The delegates to St. Louis rom the Fourth district are ibo as Webb, of Hilisborough, and Jumes 8 Bat- ue, of Nash county. Weob said toa HERALD re- porter, “We must curry New York and Indiana, or wo are lost. 1 think Tilden 18 the most avatiavle man just now,"" '§ he your proference ?"’ inquired the reporter, fi i= my preference. I want the strongest man; and Tilden, | think, is that. | care nothing for hard or soft currenes ; but, other things being equal, at ie the man with the most money Who can get the most voies."* a “You go prepared to tall in with the crowd ?"” “Yes, sit; We sball take back seats in the and go to be silent and ny Mr. Webb's colieugue, Mr. Battle, was 1 terviewed by two different represemiauves of the Heraty. He did not seem much aDnoyed, however, and sung about the same song both times, the refrain of which was. Han- cock. “Haucock 1s my man, if we can get him,” aid Mr. Bauie, “I found @ was the right grit in the army; anu I know he is weil seusoned as a democrat." “then you are fur Hancock *” “There i8 @ etrone seutitnent for Hancock in my county," repled Mr. Baile; ‘i suppose taey bave caught it trom the Norfolk papers, "* “Aiter Hancock, then who?” “Well, Joel Parker wouldn’s be a bad man, would her” *How about Tilden ?”" I woutd be willing to support Tilden but for his hard money views More money is needed | an a cote manulactarer at Rocky Mount, aud I fee! and realize this need." PIPTH DISTRICT. Jobu §. Staples, one of the Filth district delegates to St Louis, sau:— ‘Bayard is my first chuiee; Hancock 16 my second, My thiud os not fully made up. * B Withers, of Caswell. the other dele ate, belongs to w county im which, althougy i has a majority of | Negro voters, bo i= reguiariy elected as a covserval ve i member ot the Legisiature, slong with a colored repub- | Hicau colleague named Wilson Cary. tis popasous couuty (hat it contains only six white 1c uM \bers Was a member of the late Con- Conventiou. He ts an abie lawyer, with @ good pri His preference, uriefly expressed, ts for tue Stronges,man Lelore the peopie. SIXTH DISTRICT. Colonel Benjamin Little 1 a St, Louis delegate from the Sixth astriet, now represevted by Hon. thomas 3, Ashe An interview with Colonel aautle eheited the fo. sowing :— “My frst choice, apart atreugih, ts lor Headr cks from considerations of Bayard is liked by us ail persooady. filuew will receive my support it 1 can be sutisiied he cau be elected lt Conxiing bad been nominated at Cin the question mi bt arise whether it would be worto while to contest Now York with biw (iideu). tains tue faci that certam Went ero states—Oli0 anu Indiana, 1 beheve-—hold their state elections earlier thin November, deserves vo be cunsidered."* Che ovher delegate, J, D. Shaw, is repurted as say- ing:— ef preter Tharman most decidedly. { iearn that he isa head «nd shouliers above any other man in the national Senate. His spoechey are by far tue aviest made im that ded, He is a Souna, practical stutes- man. Being « Wostern man he shoulu bead the St Louis teket, with Bayard, an Eastern maa, tor Vice President." SRVENTH DISTRICT F. Shober, of Mulisbury, one of the delegates bh disire bas served several times erese He was 4 member of the recent Conatita. Uoual Convention. He was presideut of the State | | to national misrule.” Democratic Convention, which assembled here inst week. Mr. Shoter said :— “I have no settied preference. 1 like Bayard, bat thiak him too much ofa Southern mau for the pomine ton, | would prever Hinuricks to Thurman on the score of availability. As to Tilden, while admiri bis character snd politica’ record. | cannot put out that New York democratic pominations hove been unlortunate, There - yen bout them, I propose to go to Si, entirely anbiamsed and endeavor tc ascertain and ald 1m putting Letore the country the strongest man.” George M. the other deiegate, lives near East itor of the Western Sentinel, pub- ‘He goes at once to St Louis. Is strongly for Tiden on the ground of availability. Has no second choice, Personally would, of course, preier Bayard Thiuks Tilden the strongest mau. Hancock stork be dovs not consider high Bayard Ina favorite throughout his section, but tie comes too small a State, Mr. Mathes says he wants a may who can carry td York. He doge not think Hendricks could do my ‘ mONTES DISTRICT. Colonel 8. McDowoi) fate 18 one of the most promt- pedi ruiiroud men ip the State, possesses, in & mark thet sound, practical sagacity which the Oglinders churacterize as ‘horse sense.” Colonel Tate 1 one of the dejegates to St. Lows from the Eighth district. He says:— “I propose to consult the wishes of the Eastern and Northern states, aw represented by New York, New Jorsey and Connecticut, and to take as @ candidate for President whoever is their choice as a result of the ro- conciliation of their differeno’s, | prefer Tilden, doth as rd money man ani personally, i it shall appear that he is the strongest man, The West is gone, any- how. } would not, thereiore, consult their views to much extent. I would tke Bayard very weil, but fear he could not be eleced. I believe in nonest money, ana | am against ail greepbuck illusions." Colonel Washington M. Hardy, the stand'ng reading clerk of democratic houses of representatives in Norton Carolina, and olerk of the late Constitutional Conven- tion, is Colupel Tatera codelegate. He 1+ bold, bient Man, of great bonhomie und imme! vagy 4 popular, I found him at the National Hotel here » few duys ago, and, knowing weil, a8 almust everybody eise does, Tirquired bis prefereuce lor the St Louis pumination, He prompt!y answered :— “Lam for Hancock first, last and all the time."” As this reply covered not only his first, second and third choice, but uny possible number of choices, ad infimitum, I'forebore to ply bim with any further con- undruma, GEORGIA, THE STATB FOR TILDEN—-OPINIONS AND PEEF- ENCES OF THE DELEGATES. AtLaxta, June 16, 1876. Jn the tables showing how the vote of the 8. Louis Convention will stand, which are daily constructed by the ingenuity and imagination of the friends of each of the halt-dozen prominent candidates, 1t is very common to see Georgia claimed fur each of the favorites with an equal degree of cool assurance. It seems as if the Empire State of the South had be- come a great bone of contention jor the bungry aspi- Tavis, and from the avidity with which her aid te claimed {t would be natural to suppose that she had more than twenty two votes in the National Demo- cratic Convention Such, however, is not the case; but it ts a matter of great importance to the citizens of this State, us well as the country at large, how these score and two votes will be recorded, Much smaller numbers have turned scales as heavy as that in which tho Presidential candidates will be weighed. Every delegate to a groat body, whether he be u crossroads po.itician or a profound statesman, becomes the arbiter of a destiny when the contest grows 80 Clone, and but tbat one modest voice or oue silent ballot may deter. mine results upou which pationa: intercats depend. 11 ta, then, no animportant query as to how Georgia will Speak at St. Louis, ¢ The solution of this problem has been more than guessed at or two muntLs past, and is now viewed tn the hight of almogt positive certainty. One who has watched the politica! movements in the State and has heard ihe many rumors which come ingireetly “er cathedra,” need be no prophet to aeciare that Georgia's twenty-two votes in the great Convention will be re- corded for Samuel J. Tilden, of New York. It would not be correct to state that Tilden is tho first choice of the democracy of the State provided they could have au absolute choiwe, The man whom Georgia and almost every other Southern >tate would name for President, could,bis election but be insured, is Mr. Bayard, ol Delaware. He holds a place in the affections of the Southern people which few men can dispute with him. There 18, indeed, a sort of hero worship of him among the old school and Bourbon democrats of the South, His popularity was greatly increased and strengthened by hia Soutbern toar of last year, when ovations were prepared for him in almost every city he visited, His historic prestige, his spotless record as a poltrctan, his trae Christian character, his utter free- dom from all sectional prejadices, together with bis clear and safe political views, make him the man whom the Southern peop.e would delight to honor. But acaim view of the coming campaign has con- ‘vinced the people of the South tout Governor Tilden is the stroncest and most uvailable man that can be put torward by the democracy. The South will, therefore, support him. Any good democrat whom we can elect is the almost universal choice of the peopl To Gov- ernor Tilden there is no possibie good objection, His career as Guveruor of a great Sta:e has evidenced his ability to pertorm a more important trust, bis views upon the great political and tuaucial quertions of the day are s.rong and pbilosophicul, hix devotion to the party bas been unswerving and, what is better than ail, bis private cuaracier ts pure and above reproach It is Hot provable that the delegation will go sulidiy lor Tiluen, but he wiil ouve about hail of the votes of the State. Subjoined are views o: th eB :- THE STATE AT LARGE Governor James M. Smith declines to say a word in regard to his preterences at St. Louis, but the opinions of bis immediate friends and supporters justify the as- sertion that be is fur Tilden rst and Bayurd next. He has always been @ pronounced and emphatic bard | money man. Senator Jonn W. Wefford 18 opposed to the two- thirds rule; wants no ‘Groat Unkuown;” 18 opposed to auy quasi aemocrat; was a Greeleywe in "72, and th nks that that movement, wise then, would be a mon- sirous folly cow His tirst’ choice 1s Thurman; failing to get b tn he 1s (or Tilden, lon. George T. Barnes fas always been accounted a wo. He declines tu bt Bays be 2 grout bomnation ys, However much I shoud like to support one of those noble uemocrats, whose sym- thy for the sulleringe of Our Southern peop e has wen prouounced, such f lings must ive Way, and we mus? unite on any sound democrat who oan put an erd This ts construed as a weaken. ee and evidence of a dispositivn to take jr. Barove may be pot down asior Bayard or ing ou Tiden. Tien, senaior R. E. Lester will His views, either beiore hie election oF since, cuncot bi janed. He says:-—“My inclinauone wit lead me \o Support that man who has dune least to gat the nomination and about wi.om the newspapers have eatd jorced Jeast. 1 do not like the idea of having any ma) y nothing to anybody. Senator £. P. Howell, a famous thanager anda shrewd Worker, 18 lor Tilden outand out. His second cuo.ce is Bas ard. Judge J. 1 Hallie for Bayard Gret and tor Tilden next He ig « studious poliiciaa and regrets that lis favorite, Mr. Pendieion, has been ru.ed vu Hoo. Obadiah Waruer names Tiden as his first choice, Up to a snort time since Lr has favored Hendricks, and we may now sel that gentieman down ag bis secvud cho.ce. Hon. H HL. Cariton may be put down for Bayard, He bad prepared Biyurd resoiutious tor ts distriet Con- Yeution, but through expediency did vot imtiroduce them. ‘His second ciwice canuot be named. Hou, Allen For: says!—“My drst choice ts Governor Tilden. bewause | believe Lim emimeontiy capable of g.v- ing us the governmentas reiorms we need, anub is certutniy the most available man we can chopse, Next to Tiiden I should cast my vote ior Senator Bayard, ‘the i ae Rutuau of tiem ail?” Mr. E. Bow the youngest member of the deloga- tion, but one of shrewuest ry for Tilden as orst choice, aud :or Mr. Bi Mr. W. G. Jobusou Is “a red hot Bayard i He will go for the Delawarian as long as ther y use for it, und will sapport Tilden as @ second chore the delecavion, some of them with the statement that hey It t# quite sale to extend the proportion of preferences expressed by the delegates above throughout the whole wo votes. « delegates whose views are uotes are thoroughly representative and are eleciea fom different sections of the siate. TENNESSEE, THE VELEGATION 4 UNIT FOR HENDRICKS a8 FIRST AND FOR HANCOCK AS SECOND CHOICE. HaNCOCK BECOMING THR FAVORITE. - Nasnvita, June 16, 1876. The Presidential preferences of the delegates are so tersely expressed that it 1@ unnecessary to do'more than cali attention to the fact that ther preferences are herewith sumitted : Jobn M. Flemming—Hendricks and Hancock are my preferences. John H. Gardner—You can put me down as the ad- Fooute of the ciaims of Hendricks ana Hancock. Joba ©, Browo—My first cnoice ts Heoaricks, my secon Hancock. Joun C, Burch—Hondricks 1s my first and Hancock my second choice. FIRST DISTRICT. 8. J. Kirkpatrick—The man who ts foand to possess ability, availability and is accepted by the Convention at St. Lous is my first, second and third choice tor the Prosidency. 1 have uo personal preteronces which will coutrol my action in the least, Who the man is that ; EB iver Fiidea or combines the requisites uamed must be determined by the Convention. John E Helms—l have no doubt you will Aiud us all for Hendricks and Hancork That is where | stand flat fomed. 1 would cheose enter. Both are excellent men, and would make good Presidents. BECOND DISTRICT. Alfred Caldwell—i have made up my mind to vote for Hendricks and Hancock, my choice being repre ented ip the order named. Thomas O’Conner—I have told my friends that my firat choice is Hendricks; next to him my prefer- ence ie Hancock. THIRD DISTRICT. P. BH. Coflee—You can say that 1 am for Hendricks and Hancock. nes—The choice of the whole State is for wd Hancock. § am for those for whom the bi expressed a Ip other worus, I am with and Jor tbe people. rouRTH pisTRICT. Jobo P. Murray—l am most us-uredly for Hendricks and Hancock. 1 have not made up my mind «sto third chuice W. &, Saddier—1 ama Hendricks man, and next to him | preter Hancock, 1 am more thun anxious 19 see this disturbinw, uncertain and damuging financial ques tion settied, and this, perhaps, is the sentiment of every map «a Tennesseo, A chunge tor the betier canpot be brought ut too soup, and I have confidence that either Hendricks or Hancock can soive the conundrum. Iam opposed to the resumption act 0 favor of ite UDCUBditional repeal. I want to wee onpel.senne icken out of the nutional bank iaw. thi inking may be made as free as any other commercial bu ini rence. PT DISTRICT. James D. Richardsou—I believe no better men can be iound than Hendricks and Hancock. They form my first und second ebuice in the order named. James W Newmun—I am for Hendricks and Han- cock us u maiterol course | believe that either one Would carry tue democrat. buuner to suvcess. --My vbeice is tor him who isthe it. Mf BOL the Unanimous choice of the great mass Qi democrats o! Teanesses. My vote sball be cast tur Hendricks, Next to him Hancock is my favor ite and vhat of the people of the stare, W. G. Ewin—If a hard money man 0 bo taken, J rath r preter Thurman. But | um a grea! imena to ola Bul Alien. 1 think there is much soundness in the old man. | would vote uguinst Tilden on ti belief that he beiped, as has been charged, to carry Quio agamst Allen, 1 am, therefore, leit to a choice between Hen- dricks und Hancock, both of whom I appreciate, with the balance, just at present, tn favor uf Hendricks, But 1 would moni cheertully vote for either. W. ©, Whitthorn T. P. Allison—Hendricke and Hancock. HIGHT DISTRICT. A.W. Camnpbell—! am strongly in favor of Hendricks and Hancock us my first anu avcoud choice. 1 believe them to be the men for the times. W. M. Wr.ght—Hendricks, Hanceck and Bayard. NNTH DISTKICT, 8. W. Cochran—Hendricks ani Hancock. P, J. Smith—Hendricks una Hancock. TENTH DISTRICT. W. H. Carroli—Ido not mind speaking out my senti- ments with regard to the candidates for the Presidency tough Tm sy difl-r from others in respect © a choirs. Tilden tw my first choice. policy, and that is why 4 support him. Bayard is my second choice. Marsh T. Poik—Hendricks is my first and Hancock my seound choice. Under the following resolution, adopteu by the Democratic State Convention, tne Ten: nessee delegation will vote us a unit tor Hendricks un- Ul it 1s seen he cannot be nominated, anu then for the next choice and soon until a nomination sball bave been maue:— ‘That the delegates to the Ss. he; vy instructed to vote 4s Au: ton ail prop ‘majority shail contro! their vote whila we yield wu untaitering and sewous supourt to avy sound und capable democrat w.io may be nominates to the o1 Presiient of the United states, and while we do uot in tract our ates in Tegard $0 their votes, ress our preierence fur Hon Thomas A. Hendri indiana, as honeat and capable, favorably located, and. in our judyment, combining more ‘elemenis of success than any other numed aspirant. Since the Cimeinnat! pominations Hancock has Velupeu great #ir:pgth in Tennessee. he beliet*is pretty general that he 1s now the choice of the State over Hendricks. The expression to which he guve ut- terance at New Orleans, that be wouid stop u train or sinka ship, but that the writ of habeas corpus should be executed, has been taken up, and seems p.w to be the almost universal cry of the people, This expression alone 1 a tow-r of strengtu to Huncock. LOUISIANA. PREFERENCES OF THE DELEGATES—BAYARD AND TILDRN THE FAVORITES. New Orurays, June 16, 1876. The Democratic Convention which met in New Or- Jeans in January last was controlled more or less by the Bou:bon element and elected the following ticket:— State at Large—Ex Governor R. 0. Wickliffe, of West Feliviana; ihomas C. Manning, of Rapide. Marr, of Orleans; E. E. Kidd, of Jackson. First Disirict—Jobn Tobia, Louis ~ Second Vistrict—Hon. J. J. Meilon, Jame: rd District—Hon, F. 8. Gooie, of Terrebonne: Joseph L. Bre \t, of Asuncion, Fourta District—Hon, James Jeffries, of Rapides; jon. Jobo C. Moncure, of Caddo, Fittb Districi—Hou, H. cL. Mitchell, of Claiborne; Colone! J. B. Corkem, of Madison. sixth District—Hon W. H Pipes, ot East Feli Henry L. Gariung, of St. Laudry. Ex-Governor R. C, Wickliffe will lead tho delegation, he having received the largest number of votes » convention, ‘Ex-Governor Wickiif ost pr minent belore-the-war politit this State vow living. He was elected in continued prominently betore the public up jin which, however, be took no active part, and sfH that time bas taken no part in politics, He thinks whe Southern ud stes should go to the Nations! Conven. tuon determined to support the best mun put forward a. the North aud West, without claiming any shure themselves and voting with the majority, He privately inehnes to Tid wv for tirat choice, with a leaning toward Bayard .or second. jon, Thomas C, Mauning, of Rapides, thinks the ates should yo without bias in tavor of any one tn first vor Bayari; second, Pilden; third, Hen- dricks or Han: Hon, R. A. Marr, of Orleans, says all delegates from the South must go with a determination tw support the ‘man offered by the majority trom the North aud West. First choice, Tiiaen; second, Hendricks; third, Tour- maa. Hon. E. E. Kidd, of Jackson. Mr. Kidd was elected as one of (he leaders of (he compromise in this Siate i sorder that ii the measure was muoted im the Natioual Couvention he mihi exphup the position of the Li lature op tuat mensure. First choice Bayard, second Tilsen, third Hendricks . John Volin and st. Martin, of the First district, hive Bo choice, though they will vote for Tilden if brougut betore the Convention, Hou. Jobu T. Melion ts a strong supporter of Bayard Jor first choice, Tiidea secon: “ wouid be better if some man vow uuheard of was put jorwari. Hoa. F. 8. Goode, of the Third district, and Brent, his coleague, incline vo Tildeu ior a first chotce, wits met ot Hendricks second, jon Jumes Jeffrics, of the Fourth district, is for ee for Gest enoie, Tiiden socond, jon, Jonu C, Moncure, Tilden first choice, Hendricks secon! Hoo. A. C. Michell, of the Fitth district, 1s for H dricks Grst chovce, .burmay serond. Cvivnei J. B. Corkem is for Hendricks Orst choice, Thurman second Hon W. H Pipes, of the Sixth district, Bayard first choice, Tilden sev ond. Henry L, Gariana, of St. Landry, Bayard first, Tuidon second THE COMPHOMISE MEASURES. THB SOUTHERN WHIG REPRESENTATIVES AND GENERAL TAYLOR—-A LETTFR FROM THURLOW WEED IN REPLY TO A. H. STEPHENS, fo rae Borror or tHe Herarp:— The letter of the Hon. Alexandor H. Stephens, of Georgia, 10 the Hsxaty of the 13th inst, ovcasions surprise and regret—surprise that Mr, Stephens should so far depart trom ‘his bavitual fraukness, and regret that he should use language that would seom to raise a question of personal veracity between us. It bas not beon bis babit heretotore to evade or surink from the fesponsibility of his public utterances and ucts. Without tmpu; Mr. Stepheus’ truthtulness, 1 ‘shail show conciusively that his letter utieriy tails to disprove any part of my statement, Alter quoting the following from my letter to the Heravo, describing my interview with Mr. Bennets:— 1 gave him the then unknown particuiars of an wuer- view of Messrs. Toombs, stephens and Cli in, mem- bers of Congress from Georgia and North Caroiina, with General Jaylor. The otyect of that interview was to induce General Tayior, a Southern man and siave Aot er, w& veto the bill permitting California to enter the Union as a free State, It wasa stormy interview, with treats diswnion on one hand and Se on on the other, Tue facts were communicated to itor Hamlin, of Maine, and myself within ten minutes aster the inter- view crosed. Mr. Stephens then proceeds to say: — IT pat the last part of this exiract in italics, Tt is oniy matter im this ‘chapter tory” that Iw ab ibis time to nutice; and the ouly notiwe | wish u take of it is to assore Mr, Weed and ali your reauers that po such tnterview of Messrs. Toombs, Clingman and myseli ever took place with General Taylor. How he and Mr. Hamniim could have been inforined within ten iwipures alter of the pariculars of an mterview whieh never vecurred Ido not know; but I ao know I never asked General Tayior to velo any bill whatever during bis administration, 1 know also, and the records emer tbe Union as @ tree State did not puss uw atv t General Taylor's death; OW it, tet the Dill permittimg California to Congress know that 1 the aami then constitarion during the whole of tha’ sion, This the records will also suow,. We never raised 1 beheve io bis | ‘an objection to the admission of California om eccount wf rig ol ber anti-slavery tution, I, alter sayu “po such internew of Messra. Toombs, Clingman and mvsel! ever took place with Qeneral Taylor,” Mr. Stephens nad infurmed us what the nature of that interview really was, avy reply ‘rom me would bave beep unnecessary. I might fuirly assume that bir, Stephens intended to say that atthe time referred to those three gentlemen did not have ap interview with General Taylor. But I prefer, im stead of question! Mr. Stephens’ veracity, to as sume that he did not feel called upon to tell the whole truth. ° . In turning out of Pennsylvania avenue on the oo casion referred to 1 met Messrs. Toombs, Stephens and Chogman coming trom the White House. I knew those gentlemen as whig mem)ers of Congress, had met them frequentiy at Washington and el-ewhere, and with Mr. Ciingman my relations were intimate. They passea me with a simple uod of recugnition On my way up stairs | met the Hon, Mr. Hamlin, who stopped long envugh to say that | should find the President much excited General Taylor, when I en- tered his room, wa» walking rapidly to and fro, After inquiring whether I had met tho three gentlemen named" he proceeded, in an excited manner and ip strong language, to relate what bad passed betweon them and bimself, They came, he eaid, to talk with bim about - his policy upon the vending slavery questions, and upos being 1nformed that he would approve any constita- tional bill that Congress might pass, and exe cute the laws of the country, ther threatened a dissolution of the Union; im reply to which he informed them that if it became necessa y in exo cuting the laws he would tuke command of the army bimseif, and that if they were taken tn rebellion against the Union be would bang them with less re luctance than ne had hung deserters and §| in Mexico. When the President grew more calm bo took his seat and remarked that the ultra mombers of Con- gress trom Southern States presumed upon his ac- quiescence in their views on account of nis being a Southern man and a siaveholder; that belore he had been placed ina position that made it bis duty to ex- athine both sidos of the question he had entertained and expressed views differing widely from his then sen- timents, Relying on the assurances of distinguished Southern statesmen that the North was ‘aggressive’ and that the “compromisers of tho const! ution’? were ‘m danger, bo had written a letter to his son-in-law, Jefferson Davis, saying that ho wus ready to stand with the South in maintaining all the guaractees of the con- stitution, but that, since it had berome his duty to look caretully into the merits of the controversy, be bad satisfied himself tbat the exactions and purposes of the South were aggressive and dangerous, He added that he regarded Jefierson Davis aa the chiof conspi- rator in the scheme which had been euunciated by Messrs, Toombs, Stephens and Clingman. Vice President Wiison, 1m the second volume ot his “Kise and Fall of the Slave Power iv America,” page 259, "wives tne following ax Mr Huinlin’s statement of his interview with the President on the occasion re- ferred to:— “Mr. Hamlin, then a democratic Senator from Maine, States that, making « business call upou the President, be met Toombs, Stephens and Clingman just reuring from an interview, On entering the President's room he fuund bim walking the Quor, greatly excited and in- dignant. He told Mr. Hamlw that the meu who bad just retired bad been making demands concerning the policy of his admsnistration, accompanied with mtima- tions that the South would not submit uniess they were acceded to, He accompanied this statement with the declaration that if there were any such treasonuble demonstrations op the part of the Southern Icaders ana people be would pat it down oy the whol? power of the government, even if he was obliged to put hime self at the bead of the army to do it.” ¥ ‘The fact of an interview between Messrs. Toombs, Stephens and Chingman with the President at the time referred to being now established “by the mouth of two wiinesses,”’ is itmot incvinbent upon Mir Siephens, who volunteers to say that ‘no such interview erur took place,” to inform the readers o: the Hmkatp .p an explanatory letter what was the mature and cuarne- ter of that wwterview? i Mr. Stephens, it will be seen, gives apparent conwm diction to my statements by saying, “1 do moreover know that Iand my colleaguo, Mr. Toombs, favored the admission of California as a free State under ber then consutution during the whole of that stormy session,’ Now let us see, by reference to the debates, how far Mr. Stepnens tained 1p bis averment. The session of 18490 and 1850, from its commence. ment until the death of General Taylor, iv July, waa one of unprecedented exenement, An issue bei ween free soll and slavery extension wus made,.upon the of choosing a Speaker, resultipg (0 a wero whigh re- with apiree const, Mia sustained \by tho foiluwing extracts :— Mr. loowbs suid :—*+l do not nesitate to avow before this House and thy couuiry, and in tue presence of s hving God, that if by your legislation you sevk to drive u- from the Territories and to abolish slavery in tht district {am for disunioa ; and if my physical cour age be equal to the maiutainance of my convictions of rizhts und duty 1 will devote all 1 am and all I have te its cousumunation,’”* The Hon. E, D, Baker, of [ilinois, replied to Mr. Toombs: -'‘It 18 @ mourniul spectacie to a true-minded man when threats of disunton, ferce and bitter, draw forth shots of applause as triumpnaot as if disunion were aglory. lo tne name of the men of the North, fo rudely attacked, and speaking what 1 know to be their sentiments, | suy that a cissolation of this Union 1s, mast be, shall be impossible as loug as an American beart beats im an American bosom orthe Almighty sends His wisdom and iis goouness to guide and biess us.’ To this the Hon. Alexander H Stephens responded:— “Trell that gentleman, whetuer he believes it or not, ‘and whether the people Lelieve it or not, that the aay 1a which aggression 1s consammated on any ortion of the country this Union 1s dissolved.’ He closed by indorsing fully und unequivocally the speech of Toombs, Twelve years afterward, whilo Mr, Stephens was in open rebellion, as Vice President of a Southern Con. federacy, Geveral Baker vinuicated the patriotic senti- ments he bad avowed in Congress by the sacrifice of bis lite at Ball's Biot I might now saileiy leave whe readers of the Heraup to decide the q.jestion of veracity betweon Mr, Stepuens and myself, having proved by Senator Hamlin the truth o1 my staicment relating to a stormy imterview Letween Messrs. Toombs, Stephens, Clingman and Geveral Taylor, and baving also shown, by quotauons from the Congressional Record, that voth Mr Stepheas aud Mr. Toombs, during tie sexsion 01 Cougress refurree to, vehemen.ly threatened a dissoluuon of the Union. But | wiil deal less disingenuously with Mr. Stephen than be has with mo, The political storm subsided with the death of General Taylor, Vice President Fillmore, who succeeded to the Presidential chair, had been, up to the event which deprived the country of Geverai Taylor's enlightened and patriowe services, an advocate of “‘iree soi’? Buta suddea “change came over the spirit of bis dream.’’ He saw, or thought he saw, 10 @ series of compromise measures suggested by Mr. Clay, the opening of an through which toe Presidency migat be reached. Among the equivaleate for the admission ot Caiiornia were the payment of the Texan debt repudiation of the Wilmut proviso, and 8 stringent, vindictive and humiliating Fugitive Slave jaw. When i was kuown that Mr. Filmore, with such whig members 0! Congress had decided to follow b.m, accepted Mr. Clay's com. Fowise programme, “order reigned in Warsaw.'? Feats of dissolution ceased to resound through the hails of the Capnol, und under such auspices | was prepared to bet.eve that Messrs, St phens und Tuombe Would be found voung i r the admission of Caliiornia How, tnueed, coud I expect auytuins ese, when Mr. Stephens says tbat ‘Land wy colleague, Mr. founds, favored the admission oO Califurnia as a itee State under ber thea constiution during tne whole of that tormy #essior his tue records will aso show,” Un vuraing, however, to ihe record | fad that Mr. Stephens -protests oo mucu."” The quesiion on the fina: passage of the bil admitting Calvornia into the Union was takes In the House on the 7th of Septem. ber, 1860. Lt was passed by a vote of 160t056 Mr. Stephens, who says he iavored the admis<ion of Culte fornia, tailed to vote vor it, while Mr. Toombs, his cole league, aud Mr. Cingman voved ugainst it, T am not astute envush to discover ‘upon what grounds Mr, Steplens clans credit tor humsell and colleague as having “favored the atmission of Galore nia," When, apon the flval vote admiuing that State, Mr. Stepuens “aodged,” while “hi Toombs,” ted inte nezalive, DONE vd aS Tn conclusion, it wiil not De deemed out of place Temark tuat while Mr. Stepuens in debate based his threat of disumon upon “agzression,” whien Was never made, be ru-hed out of Congress ana the Union into Tevellion without cause, excuse, of even one, © €e