The New York Herald Newspaper, May 18, 1875, Page 3

» RAPID TRANSIT: Special Mecting of the Board of Aldermen Yesterday. Ba Diab THE MOORE BILL. t——3-____ Some Plain Talk About Monopo- lies and Their Abettors A BFBCAL CONMIFTER OF VISITATION, There wus « very exeited meeting of the Board of Aldermen yesterday. The meeting was a special one to consider the subject of rapid transtt, Alderman Lewis presided, and all the Aldermen were present, with the exception of ex-Mayor Vance. After the organization Alderman Purroy offered the following resolutions, which were adopted :-— Whereas the city of New York has suffered tor many years an incaleulahe loss in population and wealth vy 10AMOD of te failure of previous Legisiatures and Sas secure to her the means of cheap and rapid as it is now a fact, disputed by none bat inter- 4 selfish parties, that some means of cheap and ransit has becoine abroluiely necessary to enable jor the loavy losses of ‘tainly ought, in pros- and Common Council, heretofore vital importance of this question. monihé of curetul consideration, and, ale of unimpeachable character, pre- committee @ bill in their opinion well éaicu- ted to achieve the end in view, which ov its submis- to the Common Council was by them irrespective ef ali party differences, unanimously approved, and thereupon transmiietd to the Lopsatires and Whereas both branches of the Legislature have passed jer adding thereto certam smendments, and ow in the hands of the Governor awaiting res and as While we do not dony the. posible advan- {ages ay to other counties and iocalivies of the bills now Satory the Legislature relating to rapic transit, we are Zot of the tiem opinion that the bill known as the Com- Coune)i or Moore bill is, so far as New York city is eonoerned, the one by far the best ealcuinted to solve ‘this question and secure cheap &: epid transit therelu, now, therefore, be it + Resolved, ‘That ihe Common Council, convened in sprciat me’ ting, do most reapectiuliy and earnestly pe- tition His Excellency, pamucl J, Tilden, to sign the bill now before him, known as the Common Council or Moore bill, and ‘thus to satisfy the wishes of the clti- song ot New York ay exprussed through their elected | othcers. Kesalved, That we tehder our sincere thanks to the Hien, Hugi H. Moore anu the other members of the Sen- ‘Do and Assombly who, by their untiring exertions in sit, secured, In the ince of many dit of the Cominon « . ‘@ committee be the Feanidens togo to Albany and personaliy present lo itis Keollency the Governor these resolutions aud to ex: res to him the deop interest which the cidzens of New K take in the fate of said bill, now awaiting bis sig- re. Alderman MeCarjhy eulogized Senator Moore | for his eGorts in benall of rapid transit and moved | that the Senar, (ull name be tnsertedin the res- elutions instead of a “Semator from New York,” | He then moved that a committee of seven be ap- pointed so wo to Albany to advocate the signing of | ‘the Moore bill by the Governor. On motion of | Alderman Purroy the number of the committee | ‘Was increased to nine. Alderman Howland said he believed that all the Aldermen were of one mind, and he hoped that the committee which would go to Albany ‘Would go as the 1epresencatives of the unanimous Jeeling of the city government. The Moore will, ‘he said, was, in his op.nion, constitutional, and he had come to this opinion owing to the fact that it had been submiited to some of the best legal amin this city, and the unanimous decision of , ‘he iawyers consulted was that ail tie talk about | 1M being Uoeonsti! UONal Was groundless, | Aldei man Morris Ofcred as a substitute to Al tthe Governo: be Fequested to sign the Moore bili, Wui7h bad passed tae Legisiature, providing that no bill should be passed of a more general character ofering treater Advantages to tue citizens of New York. ir. MOrris argued that the Moore Dill, im its pres- ent shape, was simply @ tender to the Hudson River aud Central Railroad. What was wanted ad wealth ; as the mayer eoiating the rare z Was @ Dill that Would give rapid transit to the | people, Who really stuod in the greatest need of other, Bald the fare Lor the en- Id Dot exceed fiteen cents, The qaasses Who had beeu driven out of tue city vy | bign ren and wiga fares charged by the railrow a running from Forty-second sirect ney ere able to Dow, commute on the Wrie Railway, so ‘Bhat they could go fliteen to twenty niles ior vine cents. On the Newark Ratiway, he said, from {oot Of Liberty street, @ mau could go to No dn seventeen minutes ior fitzeea cents and h house for $500 @ year, for wuiel he oO Day irow $1,200t6 $1,500 in this | eity, te, he said, (rom Forty-second str north to Harlem was ten cents, to Moriisanta and Tremont fifteen cents, to Fordham twenty cents, and 1: should be borue in mind wat these ares wi be in addition to the fares that mignt ve Obarged under pid transit pulit ander tae powers givel by the Moore bill. The Alderman w rew hig substitute at the close of us re- | marks. Alderman Parroy found jault with the remarks of Aidermman Morris, and said that the Moore bill provided jor the appointment of commissioners, Bubject to the coplirwation of tue Aidermen, who ad the power to 1X the rates of tare. Alderman Morris inquired Ai under the bill the commissioners 10 be appointed would have the power to regulate ime iares om Vandervill’s roads. Alderman Gilon then oifered the iotlowing reso- ucens, Which Were adopted :— Whereas this Board is stormed that the bill, entitled et 6 cons'rucHOR and ara railway or railways im the counues 410 the Assembly on the 14th Husted, has been mistakenly ad Ura nd Y or under the been considered oF operation of 4 ©) this ae, inet by Hon. © LarKctorized ws * and Whereas the ##ie bill ws causversoine and impractiqa- throughout, an provisions, ist ‘ansporiaGon of Daw: doails Uroughout the counties of the sta » tically, ® neW general ratiroad law, (wil of novel provis- few whi ny out Lecessity aad unwisely, unse: tne law whieh ta: r 1 Lae coustruction of the well uinie 15 Kenerally satistactory; une of the p Which are claimed to be ie to the organization Of rapid transit railroad iselves prec.ude the porsivilty o Au SMIEpHIS DY responsible Capl ore, as a substitute for the rapid tranalt bill Presented to the Legislature by the Common ti, and now before the Governor for his signature, aid bill iMtroagecd b. + Husted does net Auwet with the approv Resolved, shat no capita lust Can be reasonably ex- iP: bo organized under the provistons of this bill, which ecied to subscribe to the capital stocd of a compan i Horizs the commissioners (to be appointed under it) | require atthe time of subscription, | a per ut subscribed, aud allows CUDissig! tuias 80 pald, to appropri- wie spares for themselves and any and ail expepges vhugh they may incur; aud that oo capitalist aon be ADE Oxpreree wo Held ked Any compan; “when. may be organize! a dF the "Provigions of the which (iirst) inakes the com axible tor gee, Rot only to its own labo 1s, but fle (0 the laborers and others employed but not pald by the company’s contraciors, and isecoud) sup, 9) the stockholders, jolatly and severally, AW Mw a hability (without reteretice to the number ot shares Ly them. respectively or to the amount paid to. th Paoy Upon such shares) tor the amount of such wages— ius making it possible to cuileet er to 1 holder of @ single shure of the capital stock the entire ut due ®e Wages for constructing, maintaining aod ting (he road ings denounced the attempts that jn the Legislature to deieat rapia transit for the city. The demands of the city were Buch that rapid transit bad become an absoiure Mecensity BNO Without It its greatuess as » city woud be dwarfed. foe Alderman then offered Vue following resolutions, which were adopved :-— Whereas the citizons of New York atthe iast gen- erat elective demanded and expecte i such action on the orice aa should provide rapid 1 careful investigation of the cuiatly of the cans for failure of the olofore devised to elect rapid ‘and considering the plaus and tations who © pcoionis of ail the several p Aiared to be heard, @ Comminee of the Common <ouncth, the elected representatives of the city of New York (witleh, with the ¢: i w the only ty in she stave particularly interested at present quention of rabid Uransit) acting under the advice inselemipent at the Bar, preparea a bill, which anciioned by resolution ‘unanimously adopted by | © Common Council and was approved by the Mayor, sions or which rapid transit plishment, amd Whereas that bill, introduced in tle senate by Sena- to) Hugh 1. Moore, of this cily, has, aiter caretml soru- toy and “fort tka counsel, been }sssed WueMGnOUSly fa the Senate and by a large inajor- hy in the Assembly, with amendmen that do no: weateriaily Interfere With the general object of the bill © seriously delay the prospect of prompt realisation of ropid iranstt, and * thar bill is now before the Governor, await proval Bod sigumure © make ita law) Dow, ii, That in view of the urgency of the case, ana aud Fr a garneany solicit His prowps approval and to the. bi oived, That Lie several representatives of this city iy the Legisiarure be and bereby are requestea to eo- sOUNMILEC, and LO Oppose aNd, Ht powi+ id overy altempt to distract attention by aesighing persons who, under t to noticipale pussibie delays In further proceed: a commited of Kine Of ue Common Council, to be ap- ited by (he President, proceed im: tely 4 biny. there attend tipoh the Govern ' x pposiuciods velecis in that bill, 2¢ insuperable ol ce A‘derman Bieasing wil the atiempts that had, yatare to “improve” the M kus upmajon, Made 10 Kil FOPIG trang ove ane | missioners tae * guatty. out, Te said Bepater Moore bad made rapia transit bis special siudy ever since hé had been i id regardless of hin health, which ana the interests 01 bi: voted himself to fu "9 »: ich the poorer classes col ot put faith in abl the reports that Mr. Husted was endeayo! to Kull rapid transit, or thac the bill he has duced was of bis own invention. He that be (Mr. Hosted) had inti Without snowing ite rea) o it. he (Blessing) was concerned, be wi do what Was Tight. He desired to see monopolisrs suelved, ii they could be, and he ieared very much thas the city would not have rapid transi’ until the gee ol city railroad monopolies was broken. Tbe poor workingmen, siuck away in top loits In tenewent houses, breathing diwease avevery breath, and whose children were com- peled to grow up in Mith and im an atmospaere Of death by reason o! the overcrowding of vhe city, were the victims of those men wno for selfish jurposes strove to make thetr dividends greater ho city railroads at the expense of Of the suifering masses, “Whas | want to see,” “ig rapid transit in fact, not in heme. Give usa goasantee that cnarters granted for rapid transit shali be carried out to the letter and we will be satisfied, Nothing short of shat will Batiely th eds of the city.” ‘Aiter considerable talk on the part of other Members of the Board and the passage of a resoin- Uon (wAich Was subsequently reeomidered) that the entire Board 01 Aidermen should go to Albany to “push shings”? the follow committee was appointed to go:—Aldermen roy, Suandieg, Coie, Howland, Biliogs, Seery, McVarthy, Giion ang Simonson. The committee started for Albany last evening on the mix o’¢lock train, President Lewis would | have gone with them but for tne fact that his family is just now in affliction over the deata of a favorite child, who was vuried on Sunday. it may be mentioned as an indication of the feeling of the Aldermen on tne suvject of rapid transit that, on Motion of Alderman Howland, a resointion was uBanimously adopted requesting | the Governor to Sign the bt which aliows the Greenwich Elevated Ratlroag Company to extend their tracks, COMMODORE GARRISON ON THE SUBINCT. The visit ef Commodore C, K, Garrison and Gen- eral Daniel Butterdeld on Saturday to Mayor Wick- ham wis geuerally believed to have reference to the bills now beiore the Logisiature ivoking to quick transit between toe Buctery and Westchester county. It ts well Known thai the Commodore takes, as a public spirited citizen and a capitals, a@ deep inteiest in every public work calculated to develup the material interests of the city, and thinking that he migDt give expression to sugges tious that would at this time be Oi Value, & re- porter called upon him a erday. He was most cordially recived by Mr. Garrison, who staied ti mis visit to the Chiel Magistiraie had no reieren to this subject, ‘Nevertueless,” said he, “hike you gentlemen of the HenaLD, | want to see rapid Transit accomplished. 1 have not given the sub- ject mucd attention and have no special interest ah yec I am nhearwly desirvus of seeing it> a0) - I have not the same wierest in it a8 others, @s 1 have no property in Westchester county,’” “But, Commodore, | presume if a bill !s passed that meets en approval, you, a@ & Capitalist, would be wiliiug to invest iu it 7” “Yes, cortaluly; L want to see it carried out,’’ “Have you any preference sor the bills now be- fore the Legislature? Have you examimed the | Husted oni??? “I have not examined it; indeed, I have not given ihe subject mueh attention, but I wish to e rapid transit @ success and would invert in a good scheme that would give it to us. Present my compliments to your editors and say lam wiih them in their efforis to secure it 10r te city.” GENBRAL DANISL BUTTERFIELD’S VIKWS. Later the reourter met General sutierfield, who expressed the deepest interest im the subject of | Tapid transi, and stated that it was useless to go over all the grounds and reasons that Indicated its necessity, that everybody understood that, that tho HeRaLD had dir we an and ciea:ly, and bad been of grea! tee to the cause, The uestion now to meet was, “How to solve itr” to mes a - thoriaing them have wade them of such an expen- sive character that Capitalists hesitated about 1n- vesting. Necessity existed ior placing 1n the hands Of good, responsible and honorabie power to combine and harmonize the requirements of capitalists with the demands and ceeds of tue city In & Manner nos to sacrifice the interests of the city and the public‘and to give such @ franchise as would induce cupitalists to in- vest and carry oot ® good system O1 rapid transis. He believed that the Common Council vlll, as it is knows in contradistiuciion to ull others, is the one best Calculated to secure this object, aud he Nas (ull Comidence that itis signed by tae Gov. ercor ib will do it, This bill bad be: a caled his Dill, probably from the strong interest he bad maniiested jor it, He said he | would be equally ready toe favor any bili or any plan that was sure to accomplish it, He has not been able to convince himself that any Ovaer bili will, and he is ready to ald and wseiet in auy and every possivle way to secure rapid tran- sit, aud as @ property Owner he is largely imber- e@sled in its accomphsoment and success. ACTION O¥ 4H WEST SIDR ASSOCIATION. Ata ineeving of the Execu. ive Committee of the West side Association of property owners, held yesterday, to consider the subject Of rapid transit, @ series of resolutions were unaaimousiy adopied requesting Governor Tilden to #ign the Klevated Railroad Hxrension bill. These resolattons were at ouce seat by special messenzer to Mr. Jenke, , the represegtative of the association at Albauy, With directions to present trem to the Governar &nd to urge upon him the importance of the me Ure to Lhe interests of Ni: ork. ROBBERY OF SILK GOODS. About seven o’clock on the morning of May 2, as OMcer Doyle, of the Fifth precinct, was pa- | trolimg bis beat on Lispenard street, be ciscoverea | @ rope hanging from a window on the second floor Of premises No. 4%, occupied by Gottscho Brotners, Gealers im ladies’ furnishing goods. The ofMfcer, surmising that there was something wrong and that the rope had in al) propability been made use o( by DUrgiars the night previous either for the | purpose ef entering the bailding or tn order to lower thetr booty to the ground, immediately summoned assistance and made his way into the baiiding. On entering the promises he found that the place nad been visited by thieves bus @ few hours previous, He discovered, furthermore, that they had efecied an entrance vy forcing open & rear window, and, after Having secured their plunder, had made uxe o; the rope to reaon the sidewalk. On entering Sh ck Im @ disordered condition, it being svrewn ail over the floor, UMicer Kelly waa placed lu charge until the artival of the proprietor, who, upon making an examination, stated that | bo nan oven robbed of $800 worth of goods, | consisting Of ladies’ neckties, Detective quigiey was then placed tn charge of the case by Gaptain Catirey, with orders to ioilow up the burglars and to make A general search among several secona $im the precinct. who enjoy the repn- receivers of stolen gouda, Fearing that by resorting to ¥ iter means he migot lose sight ot the burgla: ermined fret of ail to call open the proprietor aud ascertain trom bim whether ue had auy Cclew in his possession | that magatiead to the apprehension of the thieves, im by Mr. Gottscho that joining buliding, d Noticed OM several OCcasious When the rear window during vusiness hours x x the men tg a bie work in q manoer, t e for twee a Be ng skylights. The akylignt Ly Ca we feet low r wor occupied | Gotischo ros. Oficer Quigley ‘waa able, however, to obtain from either member of the firm the names o! ihe two men who had been {has emplo ed, f the bu @x-Mayor Heeataiate gave bein th ing # jan who had served as boss t On being arrested by the peep rou is Innocence ving u wito the burgiery, an the office vis a le to con- hect him with the robbery for wi he was obliged to re) im, mi the oflicer to ned, however, to ta bad engaged as of the man mb repairing yitght. They immed that there besides that of Pepsin ip question is ‘ than the windows of | Citazenehip. », & SPIRITED (MEETING; » TROUSLE ON 1) EGLISH DU SAINT FSPRIT—KBY. ‘M. RONS’ DOUBTED CREDENTIALS. At present polemica ao not engage the minds and tongues of the members ot the congregation of L’ Byhse du St, Esprit, whieh is situated in ‘Twenty -second street, r Fifta avenue, Mavters having a secular bearing, ana even leaning to- ward violations of the doctrine of “graee, meroy and pence’ to aji men, employ them. The church 1s in aa eruptive @, and its probationary pas- tor seems to be balancing Limself on the summit ofa pillar of fery matter which ts coming out of hew made volcano. The churchin whieh shese things are happening 1s one of the oldest religious ablishments in thie city, It was founded more than one hundred years ago by a congrega- tion of Frencn Huguenots, and nas by degrees attained a very good position In relation to its treasury, Attached to itis a very comiorta- ble parsonage, which has not been occupied for about a year since its venerable rector, Dr. Ver- ren, died, For several months after the Geatn of Dr. Verren the guardians or vestrymen of the ehuareh were unable to supply “his place perma: meutly. Finally ‘hey advertised for an ecclesiastic fit to be their director toward the heavenly way, and received in reply to their call an application sent by the Rey. Leon Pons, Tnis was in Ucto- wer, 1874 M. Pone presented to the vestrymen certificates stating that he had been at one time @ priest in the Roman Catholic Qhurch, but had renounced the errors of Roman theology, married and entered the Episcopal Oburch, in which he had been ordained @ priest by Bishop Doane, of Albany. He also presented to the vestrymen the document which iad induced the prelate to ordain him, Alter some negotiations M, Pons was accepted as the pastor on probation of the Church of St, Keprit. He was not admitted to live in the rectory, however, but took up his residence at Ne, 6. East Thirty-first street, He has always offi- ciated very acceptably to the majority of the members of his congregation; but there have been afew of them who have thought that he cared more for bis salary than to benefit the | courch., These jew persons have oever been con- tent to accept M. Pons’ accouns of himseif, but have busied themselves‘ to discover whether or not his certificates recited the truth, The results of weir inquiries have not pleased them, They | could learn nothing definite against their pastor, but were yet anwilling to accept all the good things which be said of himself and which his documents corroborated, Still, they in no Wise disturbed M. Pons, and everything seemed to tend toward placing him permanently m the post 80 long occupied by Dr. Verren anti lass Thurs- day might, ‘Then occurred a meeting of the mem- bers of the Congregation for the election of M. Pons to the rectorship or definite rejection, 11 was velleved by bis iriends that he would be chosen without dissent, put the event showed them that they had deceived themselves, . Beiore the question was put to the congregation M. Bur- pier, an oid gentleman who has been connected with L’kglise de Bt. Esprit tor many years, aiose, and asked leave to make a few remarks be‘ore the election began. He was given the permission he asked, and then remarked that as what ke had to gay Was personal to M. Pons, it would b well for the reverend gentieman to leave tne chapel, M. Pons, shereiore, left bis seat and retired to the rear part of the room, but did not leave it, . Boroter then, putting bis hands behind his ack and leanmg updn & coiumn, bejan his remarks. Durtog thei course he said that ne wae not satsied thatthe documents whiqn M, Pons bad presented to the vestry men were genu- ine, and expressed several other thongs, by im- | plication, discreditable she candidate jor tue rectorsh'p. In conclusion he said tnat uatil M. Pons presented verified dvocuments to. the would election, ds that sin cas was elected to the rectorship before giving the evidence he desised be woula not “sit unier Dim.” M. Poos beard the remarks of M. Burnie: and was very much agitated by them, Beiore hb: irends had recvverea trom the surprise jute Waich they were tnrown by the spe he walked Tapidiy from bis position at tue side of the organ ol the room to where M. Buroier Litt ngriy, “You AS Itseemed Burnier bis Iriends 80 win her When she clergy aan, ck, crying, Leon was taken away from ber husband, It is said by spectators she advanced furiously upou M. Burnier, and woula have prevented. Mme, Pous, howv- to the writer saat either she or ber ndeavored to do M. Burnier harm. she felt indignant at the assauit made upon ber basband, out had he Bis COnsKICred shat to endure wich bad been thrown said that she saw no ex- aueed by th dig: bers of the church at the remarks of M. Burnier. The me tional scene and the election or r: nee, if th ction of a, | the Holy 8) eX’ week. Fro nat y it appears that there are agitated con- in the 5 d ef adherents to M. ‘ons, another very one, made up of perso opposed to him, an third whose constituents | aaaaea tans to whether he is elected or re- ect THE METHODIST PREACHERS. ‘ee ‘ation, the Grat THE SCHOOL QUESTION af 4 TARGET-—TAE CATHOLIC CHURCH ‘A CONSPIRACY AGAINeT THE LIBERTIRS OF MANKIND.” The unscttled condition of the public school Guestiop and its correlatives makes it one of great and genera! importance. Heoce its discursion in al! the denominational religious gatnerings of this city lately. The Methodist ministers osition under consideration yesterd Bivie in the schoois under present circumstances js an infringement of the rights of con- science. Conscience, he contended, i# ubove law or legal enactments, The Bibie in the sctiools is BOL the question that touches Cataolica most, and Archbishop Purcell was quoted as having said to Rev. J. M. King that he noped Protestants would ineist om retaining the Bibie In the schools, for in such case the Rowan Catholics could demand, as @ matter of right and justice, public financial aid for their schools. He (Lioyd) would bave tne schoois perfectiy free from any religious |téa what- ever. They should be purely secular; but FAYQRBD COMPULSORY RDUCATION, because the Siate has # right to intelligent The State, however, no right to ‘s conscience; that is tue province w Chureb, Mr. Lloyd denied also that +i relation of at 9 foreign born ¢itizens was involved In this discussion. The nomber of foreigners in America, he thought, is exceedingly small. The priesthood of the Roman Catholic Cnurch ts largely foreign, for they do not take the oatn of allegiance. They bave, there- fore, no right to take any part tn the adairs of the nation beyond @ private Opinion. Mr. Lioyd in- sisted that the State had the same rigot to punish tue man Whe emasculated bis child's mind ne Wio emasculated tne body. the Catholic sebools are to be leased or teachers appointed, | these things must be left wholly to the discretion Of the Board of Education. Teacwers should be appointed Without any regard to creed, but not without regard to their moral fitness. lie woulda | vote against the Bible in tne puvlte schools were he the only man tn the Mesodiat Kpiscopal Courch that should do so, Dr. R. Wueatiey believed we could not have a educate a c man wno ways been 100i Cuaracter, ¥ A DESPERATE BURGLAR CAGED. “2 WON'T SERVE THAT Tim; 1’. pre yrest.” Avout two o'clock on the morning of the i9th Of April Omicer Ri Of the Hovoken Jpolice, ob- served a man loitering througu the Biysian Fields in @ very suspicious manner, and fo ke: fic arrested him und in bis possession a jimmy, two knives, 8 slungshot is name was Kuward and that he resided in New York. Ye: day morning be was arraigned in the © Special Sessiot it Jersey City, and on veimg formed that al the alternative of being tried by the Court #§ once or take the chances of a jury trial be muttered con't wanta jury.” ip wha: oe Ray to th that be was a biacksror tools (including ves and the candie) for ovner partie shot, he claimed, was only an ic jimmy & Window voit, The Court The government by the people and for ihe people—a GOVERNMENT RESTING ON THE POPULAR WILL, uniese we have purely secuiar education. te would be glad to have the Biole im every public schoei in the land, but we cau’t have this aud Maintain our school system at the same time. Ail iree stitutions must reat on enlightened popular intelligence. The Romau Catholic Obureh me: toenlorce its Cam to supremacy over the ciences Of men, and it will either role or ruin. hat Church will rule the American people in the interest of a is whl ruin it e Free- man’s Journal and the Roman Catholic dignita- 1 Douay idle were reac in the or their objection to ld not be lessened one whit, Dr, Woeatiey contended that it would utierly impossible for us to rve in this nblic a government of a for rople and Keep the Bibl Vv. Dr. Crook, when bé was twelve tant, thongat b ava objects ott i The sentence was six 10 the State Prison. Ni heunced than the priso “L won't serv: in looking mistake, he tho} it tn Scatnolie ae a Onuren ata In: Romen Oatholic Courch avead of being urea it A GRAND CON! against the liberties of Wan SOMES MAR RAE ting was adjourned afier tee sensa- | William Lloyd took the ground that to keep the | b | one. ateacked him | NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, MAY 18, 1876—TRIPLE . SHER? this would uot satisfy the Roma’ Would tien want to take charge of and pretry class books they would je said) meet the demands of le Dterarchy bat handing system Ol education to them. They boys and girls mix with Protes- is they will not submit kindly to give as. You cao’ vho Roman Cap over the whole know phat it ui tote for then tuy auuigusted inowels of Rome.” 0 em tie mi ae nou ol e ‘The Dootor said he would go furtier, and say that the State has a right to see that every citizen bad ® certam training and education in such and such things, Rome wants to banish the things that we would have taught. He bopet this would be can- sidered, Rot a8 a question between Americans and foreigners, but between America and joreign despousmm, Dr. Hoidich took the ground that no secular education Is complete that does DO" inculcate mo- rality, and be claime@ that the Bivle contains the purest morality that the world Knows anyihiug avout, Hence the Bible cannot te dispensed with in secular education, The Doctor quoted inat sec- tion o the constitation which pronibits Congress from faveriag one lorm of religion more than an- other, and insteved that when Congress in the early days ot the uolic indorsed the proiica- tion of 20,000 copies of the Bible by a Pmiladelphia pouiabar. At did not therevy indorse any particu- ar Oburch or creed, The quesiion was continued jor ano'her week, whea Key. J. M. King will open the discussion, SUNDAY S80HOOL ASSOCIATION. MONTHLY MEETING AT THE FOURTH AVENUE PRESBYTRRIAN CHURCH. The monthly meeting of the New York Sunday School Assvciation was held iast eventng at the Fourth avenue Presbyterian church, @ fair attendance, the body of tne church being | pretty well dillea, Mr. Prank Ferris, of the Fourteenth street Sun- | day school, spoke vriefy, referring to the work done at the Sunday School Convention in Baiti- wre ane how profitable 1t had been to the gene- ral work, Rey. Dr, Manning, the editor of the publications of the don Tract Society, said he Was present from Ohristians on the other side to those en, aged in Christian work he: Of nese he Knew of none more useial and vajuabie than Sunday #enool teacher: He be.ieved the best way of learoing was to teach, and that while vie children in Sab- bath had jearned = what would be ci 16 advantage to them, he believed the teachers had learned — still more. Nothing was more weary than @ teacher who did Rot himseli know what he was bound to teach, His laoor was Useless wud thrown away. The sobolars were dissatisfied, aud more harm was done than good. He had been, during fifteen years, anperimtendent o1 the oldest Sunday scnool 1n the word, aud he had in ib the oldest teacher in the world, who taught trom 1794, during eighty years of incessant labor, He haa founda that upon she complereness of the téacher de- pended the success of his class, ‘fhe work was & grand one and deserved constant appiication, The Rev, Dr. Joseph I. Duryea, of Brooklyn, spoke apon the sunject of ‘Tbe Omid Samuel” | and tue lesson whi2h should be taught by bis hie, In this the reverend gentieman displayed a great deal of erudition, and explained many ol the meanings conveyed by this propnet. Ib was given 4a the form Of @ Bunday school lessou, and was | Listened so with great attention. A SUNDAY SCHOOL FESTIVAL. There will be a gathering to-day at the Taber- nacle Baptist churen, un Second avenue, between Tenth and Eleventh atreets, at two o'clock P, M., of over 1,000 Bunday school children, ou the occa- sion of the May anniversaries, and the exercises will be very interesting, The music wiil be by the vands Of the Seveath anu Seventy-irst regi- meats, N. G. .¥. Addresses are to be deliv- eced by the Rev. H. M. Gallaher, of Elizabeth, and the v. B. Kelsey, of Passaic, N. J., and There 1 2,000 children in that portion of the avenue at the close of the services, PEW PREMIUMS, AUCTION S4L9 OF CHOICE SEATS AT DK FALL'S NEW FIFTH AVENUE CHURCH—AN INTEREST- THR TRUSTEES. The announcement that the pews of the new Fifth Avenue Presbyterian church would be auc- tioned off last night drew to the chareh, corner of Futy-fi'th street and Fiith avenue, a Jarge and sprightly congregation, For @ business gathering it was a remarkable The ladies outnumbered the gentie- avd although the iatter did the bid- the former did @ large part of the non, ding, prompting. Ris daughters, Nstened eagerly to the suggestions they offered, and, paving been imstructed, he sprang to bw feetsand made Mr. Draper, the Auctioneer, & bid for cnoice Of seats. Several bids were made by proxy, through ageuts, and now 4 then @ lady's gioved hand appeared above the sea of heads, and an adjacent gallant called out her Ggure fora choice, Pews were bought in the names of several estates, None of the lately | Daxemaes Sennen the rights accorded vy Civil bill. mts quoted as having been bid are only choive Of seats, the prices Of the sev- a aiuation each purchaser will have to j py interest at the rate Of ix per cent as long as ie holds, The firat fire list padlished below were valued at $0,000 Placed ater the numbers jum paid ior tue choice Which resulted in whe selecuion, As hall-past seven Mr. Draper mounted five pews, and asked, How much am I bid jor firat choice?’ Kight hundred dollars was oered, andin a sbort time the gure was $1,600, Mi ander Stuart being the last bidder be had the choice, and selected pew No. 130, the teeath from the pulpts on the left side of the main | Pew No. 131 was the next cho by Mr. R. L. Btwart for ¢: | in fomt of that taken by ui | ivy and 160, she first in | th tue Low. . Pews Noa centre and tue latter takea by Mr. who paid $1,800 premiam dn. each. Forest paid $1,300 lor a chowe tok No, 2.0, $1,300 for another and | chalice, on which he selected No. 231. For the next chore $1,100 was paid oy Mr, Kovert Bonner, wav Jocated in pew No. 188, 1a the leit side aisic, about twelve seats from tne front, From tas point anul tne finish of the auction the prices Of cuoices ve- gan to Giiminisb, as will be seen ird% the jullowiug Bon ale -— Nome of Purchaser .W. 8, nloane, aay, Shlamore. 1m. «Hy. Maynard. 10. = 1sy. John Auchincioss. vo decrease un- The pri tl the sums of $60 Was reacted the a aout. His clerk’s note book showed the Realized om pre- piams, ” The total valuation of the pews in the church amounts tO $797,000, which, With imterest at mx per cent, Will Dring the courci an anmaal income Of $47,874. The pews which were not chosen last night are RoW open to Iree selection by aay memver who ays the Valuation on the following cenditions ;— Gath or arty yer cont cash, twenty-Gve per cent on the it of November, 1875, and the balance on the ist of May, 1874, with interost atseven per Cent per annum, calculated irom May 1i, 1875. THE WEATHER YESTERDAY. down following handsome result 030. in toe temperature fur the past twenty-four hours, in Comparison witn the curresponding date of last year, as indicated by tae thermometer at Hudnui’s Poarmacy, No, 218 Broau way :— A8T4. ™ 3 61 temperature yesterday... Average temperature for correspuvading last year .. WESTON’S WALK. ‘The attendance of spectators at the Rink yes- terday, both in the afternoon and evening, was suMciently numerous to give Weston great en- couragement im bis undertaking. Weston through- out the day was ia excellent spirits, and as the hours sped by appeared to gain vigor a feet aro now cansing aud be shows amo ver, which i# not a litte pris considering the work he has already performed. tis app:tite is good. It Wil be , remembered he ning as i2n. dd by 43 miles, At five P, M. he md at midnight the tally at that time walking very strong W complete bis vin POWQEE KRM LEH yo ‘There was | rather unexpectedly; tha. he brought greetings | ING OONTEST AND A HANDSOME RESULT FOR | Tne pateryam@ias surrounded by | been previously sot by the trustees, | en pews Mentioned on the | stand and read off the wumbers of | 104 «Were takea by Mr. | fered, aud when | etioneer stepped | bergen | The following record will show the changes | NEW YORK CITY, Henry Lyons, of No, 845 Weat Thirty-sixth street, ana John H. Wilson quarrelied last night in the jouse of the former, when Wilson staboed Lyons 1a the wide made his e6cape. ‘The anniversary exhibition of the New York In- stitution for the Biind, consisting of vocal and in- stramental masic, iterary exercises, &c., will be held at Steinway Hall on Thursday eventing, com- memclug at elght clock, While David Mahoney, of No. 351 West Fifty- seventh street, was driving @ dirt cartacross the track of the Hudson River Rattroad at Eleventh avenue and Forty-third street yesterday ajter- noon, he was run into by @ freight train and ihrown from bis seat, receiving & iracture of the skull, fle wae taken to the Nimely-minth sirces Reception Hospital. The annnal election for oMcers o! the New York Board of Fire Underwriters wes held yesterday. The polis opened at noon and ciosed an hour \ after, In which time sixty-six votes were depos. Med, The ticket elected was as follows:—Pre | dent, edgar W. Crowell, Imperial, London: Vi | President, D. A. Heald, Home, New York; Secre- | tary, William W. Renshaw, Long Island; Assists nt | Secretary, Walter K, Page, Guardian, New York, ) we jrrenmuner, Marcus F. Hodges, Hofaan, New ork, Mrs, Ann Etiga Young, nineteenth wife of Brig- nam Young, repeated her lecture, “My Ltie in Bondage,” last evening before the Yorkville branch of the Young Men’s Ohrissan Assoctation, at Pareps Hall, corner Third avenue and Eighty- eixth street. The hall was | filed with an au- | dience composed largely of the fair sex. ‘The lec- turer, Who made a@lavorable impression on the audience, was introduced by @ member of the as- sociation, The lecture was delivered in & very pleasing style, and ice which, at times, was very pathetic. The aodience manifested their sat- istaction by frequent rounds of applause. BROOKLYN. The Board of Police and Exeise resolved yesier, aay that dragmiste’ licenses should be $30 and reguiar wine and beer dealers’ $50. Heretofore there have been four grades of license. John Robinson and Jomm Ludiey were sent to jail yesterday by Justice Eames, on complaint of | B. MeAleer, of No, 96 North Fifth street, E. D, who charged them with stealing $200 worsh or carpen- ters? tools from him. Colonel Thomas Carrol), who has just been ap- pointed Commissary General on the staif of Gen- eral Dakin, First division, N.G.S.N.Y., was last evening the recipient of a full autt of untform and sword, costing $1,000, from bis admirers, The Comptroller received from the Board of City Works un estimate of the expenses of that de- penceioay, to be ratsed in the budget for 1876. Th: | total amonat asked is $1,238,500, The principal | ems are street lighting, cleaning and repay: sireets and sewers, ‘The Germans of the Western District celebrated terday, The rooms of the ®angerbund and Ger- | mania clubs Were open all day, while the p: | Were, saronged with werry-mMaking men and THE BROOKLYN CQMMISSIONS, MUD- DLE. THE STORAGE RESERVOIR CONTRACT—OFF FOR EUROPE—GRAND SfRERT FERRY—-PUBLIO BATHS. It was expected that the deadlock which bas been maintained for the past three weeks be- tween the Mayor and the Common Council would be dissolved at the meeting of the Board of Alder- | men yesterday, and that an amicapie settlement would be arrived at by that time, Hence it was that the chamber was throaged to excess by an expectant lobby, who have an eye on the “loaves and Gshes” which are cdntrolied by the Commis- sions of Police and Excise and City Works, It was thought taat Mr. U. D. Brigus’ name would be taken from the table and that he would e appointed Police Commissioner; also thi some one would be chosen as suceessor to the President of the Board, General Jourdan, It was further antici- pated that a successor to President Lorin Palmer would be nominated for the Olry Works, but these expectations were not to be realized. Consider- able caucusiug was had between the leaders ana | Mayor Hunter, bus they could pot arrive at a sar- | Wwlactory vouclusion, The Aldermen met at two o'clock, Alderman O’ Renly ua the chair. Alderman Fisher calied attention to the irrega- lar mode of the confirmation of John Pyourn as | Police Commissioner at the jast meetiag of the Aldermen, He said the absentees had beea called for om the vole then taken, and all the names liad not been called ; yet m spive Oo; that fact Mr. Pyburu had deen deciared Commissioner. He protested avainst the action oi the Caairmanu on tnat oc- casion. A communication, with resolutions attached, ) Was read (rom the Board of City Works, transmit- ting & cupy Of tne legisiative act for toe compie- tion of the storage reservoir at Hem this action Alderman Repes demurred and pi sented @ protest against the appropriation of ¢ $500, v0» Jor this Work, sigued by property holde! representing upward o1 $25,000,000, reference to the Law, Water and Drainage com- muittees for report. | called for would suffice to complete tne Ab dermen Strong, Rowley aud Browne took part in | the debate which ensued on the matter, which was daaliy referred to the committeos named. Alderman Bergen stated that Bominations would be acted upon then by the Board, which lobby of disconsolates. He stated, however, that the Mayor bad intimated tne would nominate on Th for Tax Collector, Reqiatrar of Arrears and ¥ire Commissioners. It was decided thats special mecting of t ght o’clock P. M. on tat day. to which was reserred tne report that oribery had veen resorted to to secure the re- leasing of the Fifth District Justice Court, D., reported that they had terminated their investiga tion, and found not @ scintiila of evidence to sus- was resolved (o inser tn table BUM to buiida court Louse for the Court name, | _ President Bergen was given leave of absence for his European vo od Alderman Daniel O' «ely rected Ac Counet! during the absence of Mr, Bergen, | It was resolved to address 4 communication to the Common Council of New York. asaing tueir o operation lor reopeaing tue Grand street (Rusiern Liscrict) serty. Yhe Board farther resolved to Increase the ap- Propriation for the coastruction of public baths Trulia $2,000 to $35,000, DESPERATE ATTEMPT AT SUICIDE. A scene of wild excitement was enacted among the passengers on board the ferryboat Hoboren while on her baif-past seven trip from Christopher | genuine resolves of May 31, Pfingst Montag with their accustomed jollity yes- | He moved its | Alderman French did not think that the smcunt | ri Police | | get Into position before the butts until a! THE HISTORIANS ON MECKLENBURG, WAsHINGTo™, May 15, 1875, To THe Eprron or THE HERALD:— Permit me a brief space to correct errors into whieh you have inadvertently fallen in comment- ing upon my letter on the bistgrical evidence sup- Porting the Mecklenburg Declaration of Indepen- donee of May 20, 1775, I refer to your remarks upon the position taken on this controversy by . io historical writers, George Bancrofs and Benson J. Lossing. Yon say that Mr. Bancroft “cannot fairly be counted with the side which denies that there was a meeting and Declaration at Charlotte on May 2.” Now, Ihave nownege demied that there may have veen @ meeting on May %, or, in fact, many meetings, culminating in the resolyes which nobody disputes of May 33. Simply, there ts no evidence which cao be calied historical that the alleged Declaration of May 20 was ever adopted, That Mr, Bancroft holds this view is apparent, Firat, irom the fact that bis history makes no ailuston to a meeting ef May 20, nor to the resolves of May 20, while ex- Plicitiy quoting the language, in part, of the Second, Mr. Banorofs wrote to Governor Swain, of Nerth Carolina, July 4, 1848, announcing his discovery of the genuine Mecklenburg resolves of May 31, 1775, In the South Carolina Gazette, aud tells him that they are iden- tical with the paper which he (Governor Swain) had enclosed him. It may be added that Gover- nor D. L, Swain, afverwara President of the University and Historical Agent of the State of North Carolina, was # pronounced unbellever in the authenticity of the resolves of May 20. Third, ‘Mr. Bancroft wrote to Peter Force, im March, 1842, “The documents prove to myjmind conclusively that the people of Mecklenburg passea spirited resolutions, and that the set published by the Legisiuature were not tne real ones,” Now, the set publisned by the Legisiatare were the re- solves of May 20, with tueir prevernatural and startlingly suspicious likeness to the language of the Declaration of Independence, You cite Mr. Lossing as leaning to the genuine- nessof the Mecklenburg Declaration of May 20, but you quote no language from his Dook declaring his own belief, but only his record of Governor Graham’s belief in their genuineness. Permit me to cite Mr. Lossing’s last word en this subject, ai published by bim tn the dmertoan Recora for May, 1874, vol. 3, page 203: That the resolutions purporting to have been adopted on the 2usm of May, and containing ex~ pegenans and sentiments similar to those used by efferson in the National Declaration of Indepen- denee, which thar statesman believed to be spuri- us, Were really so cannot be reasonably doubted. + ¢ * Brevard, the alleged author, bad been. dead since late in the Revolu the Secretary of the Cot allegea had furnished copt e He had then, doubtiess, dim m- Convention and its resotutions of the y ting in bis mind, and from them the resolutions were framed by an amanuensis. So much for Mr, Bancroft’s and Mr. Lossing’s | opinions, in view of which I think you will do me the justice to admit thas 1 have neither read these autbors through @ bias nor erred in classing them with the unbelievers in the authenticity of the Mecklenbarg Declaration of May 20, 1775. Very respectiuily, A. R. SPOFFORD, CREEDMOOR, FIFTH PRACTICE OF THE AMBRICAN TRAM. The weather yesterday was deligatful at Creed moor, but in the middie of the day the refractive qualities of the ligat bothered those of the am can National Rifle team wko were out Jor prac tice. General Dakin and Messrs. Canfeid and Coleman were out im the beacof she day, and, theretore, shot at ®& time when the light was subject to 18 greatest aberration from retraction, Tae wind during the entire day was £000, though occastonally a little uncertain, Ool- onel Gildersieeve and Major Fulton reachea Creedmoer shortly after two o’clock and did nos At this time the wind snd lignt were exeelient, and it will be seen that both gentlemen were suc- cessful in making excellent practice yards. Colonel Gildersiceve, contrary vo his accustomed | precision in practice, jell of somewaat at the Sue yards range. THE SCORES, iJ ty OR HENRY FULTON. doe See Eee Eee TES WHARL GARE LAL SAS « s. MARA GKT ETHEL 2 WHIRL EELRARTRS & 6 - MODELL LL eS LSS ESS 30-144 MO-BLARREL ELE EES a } 90-3, TREKLS HEAT A SG 6 wwe, 833, 3 rhea 3, 4, 2. ba 200-3, 8. 4, TERRA AE ro 900, LOO RLS 3 ro RR PELLETS Ss SrIRLD, Jame x otteays “ x CSHLLCS rr] ‘ REERLOE announcement nad the effect of thinning out tue | Board | ig President of the Common | $ + to the third horse, ‘0 arranged that in future, practice for the team will gotbegin on Mondays unt o'clock P. M. FLEETWOOD PARK. FIRST DAY OF THE SPRING TROTTING MERTING— POOL SELLING LAST EVENING. The spring trotung meeting at Ficetwood Park begins to-day and will be continued to-morrow, Vhursday and Friday, Two events are on the prow gramme for decision each afternoon, commencing precisely at three o’ciock, with lar jeids of cap- ital horses to compete in the various clagses, in calling the borses and a strict ad- to the rules Of the National Association will uaracterize the monagement of the meeting, the stewards of the park being determined thas noth ball De lacking TO Insure Satisfaction to erned, Pools were sold at Jon evoming on to-day’s iving ao idea o1 tt jorses vy their reape rH No, 1.—Purse of $1,000, heats, best three ¢ HrBt, $900 to the second and § | Brook's olk. g. Pat McOann “ | Golasmith’s b. m. Eme Dean... ? Hert’s br. m. Yewtie Beriew, w Field..cececeeee pry street lastevening. Haif way across the riyer a | | young man, apparently twenty-eight years of age, evidently laboring under beavy mental exctte- ‘Ment, prced rapidly to the fromt of the boat, jugpéd over the gaard rail and plunged dieng into {he river. The boat passed directly over him, ‘Was entan, in the backets of the mMomea's, to the surprise of eversb oe man Was seen DoUndIgg on the Waves in toe wake o: the boat, Ropes and a ladder were procured, and with the assistance of John Maloney, of No. 69 Uii- ver street, who was rowing by at the time, the Btruguling man was rescued. Wuen conveyed to the Hoboken police statioa he said he was a mem- ber of the firm of Connoliv & Brother, engaged in the bquor basiness, at No. 58 Souts Wasaington sqoare. Ald Edmonston changed his clothe. and seat him home im & carriage. The wan was siievt as to the motives Of his deed, | THE GAS QUESTION IN JERSEY. ANOTHER EFFORT TO RID*THR TAXPaYeRs oF THE MONOPOLY. At the meeting of the Police Commisstoners of Jersey City last evening there was a lively uis- cussion on the supply of gas to the street lamps a rta contract entered into | pratetennchere phe ane Sade | especially the case when Kaowueli, toe | many years ago betweem tne city and the gaa company the former has paid the latter $62 25 a year lor every street iamp ligated by them, the oignest er Known im any city of the Cuion, ems to be no ape from this comtract, rms of which bind the city to ac- cept the gas at that price, Several attempts he | been made to obtain charters from tas Le, | lasure for independ gas companies, but | monopoly always rendered these attempts (rai less by securing the loboy. The gas bills paid by consumers 10 all jersey ity are exorvitaut veyond mov iy Board of ‘ol President by nus, to Fr 7. burde oy another cou ips Bos BOW lighted by « yy, OF to Be hereafver set up, with va 4 of $0 for each lamp per year. would be @ saving to the city of $30,000 ding tne tide running against itted & proposition to reduce the bo $46 45, provided the city will en with @ nd @ Pail foot | After @ long debate, in Which Commis. s\oaer Edmondson became the champton of tue Wuwopoly, furkher Gevale Was POseponed till the DACRE MAG OLBA, r aiew , TAR 2:26 CLass. No. 2—Pnrse of $2,000, for horses that never Deat ae mile ae best — in Ove, in 7 Ness; Tat, $500 6 necond, $300 the herd and $400 10 the lourtn norse, Mace’s bik, wm. Blanche... sil ol Walker's bik. m. May Bird.. - at 2 O'clock; 2:00 P.M. THE NATIONAL GAME. MATCH BETWEEN THE HARTFORD AND ATLANTIO CLUBS—POOR PLAY AND NO EXCITEMENT, The fourth game of the championship series be- tween the Atiantic and Hartford clabs was played yesterday afternoon on the Union Grounds, So | far the Hartiords present a bold, unbroken front, | having vanquished their opponents in every game which they have played this season, Yesterday the play Was almos: a repetition of the game on Saturday last, witn the eo exception that on the former occasion the Atiantics managed to Score one run, woile yesterday they were goed.” The Martiords piay Neg “Ohi¢a- well in the field; hence their suocess, how- ever, they fall to come above the average. The decisions of the umpire yesterday were on sev- eral occasions received with shouts of derision and disapprovation irom the tors. This wae tne Atlantics, succeeded by good play in Cammings, ef the artiote: Cian, out as tae nome plate as he was endeavoring steal home aad | thereby secure a run. It was plain to be seen by every one present that Commiugs had ocen put out; but ire, Martin, of the Namelens vind, dec vor and against Knowdeil, ‘The idliowing is the score of the game:— RAB.P.A.E, Rarbhage, so 4% Burdock, 420 Carey, 10. $i Foren aoe g i Ferguson ity 220 non i Lae ded, f afte 8 OS Fire: vase on srrorsdariiord At; Atlantte, 1a ime of gaine—Ome hour ming jar tia, of the Nasmeose Club. Uniou Grounds, and the Motuais play the Conten- Preven ey Sect ‘