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— 4 THE GREAT TRIAL. Bixtieth Day of the Absorbing Scandal Suit. MR. BEECHER APPEARS We Tells the Story of His Early Life. HIS MARRIAGE ENGAGEMENT =We Were 23 and 24 for Part of the Year and 24 for the Remainder.” THE TILTON WEDDING. “They Were the Fairest Pair | I Ever Married.” | particularly sepulcnral NEW YORK HERALD, FRIDAY, APRIL 2, 1875.—TRIPLE aaced, tHatT nave ¢iven Theodore cause lor offence or just cauae,” E ‘ft remember the exact words; be said he. Rad called together @ committee of MEN OF HIGH OM ARAt CT ER, who conld not afford to misrepresent; he saia he jn them DO bh and result should m my character [ twenty-four hours; he said thas Theodoi taken pains, whenever there was the least in- dication that the scandal would cease, to do some- tmng to reopen it; ve said Frank Moulton was & irtead, and trom his belief in human nature he could not believe he would prov he had devoted nls lie todo ng good fo his te.low kind; 1 his only ambition had veen, perhaps, alter was dead thas he might leave something that would be @ consola- tion to tl who mourned for him; he said that he Wad received hundreds of letrers rom all parta of tue courtry apd irom all pe ple expressing their sympathy, apd maby, alinough in sympathy, appeared to intimate that they beleved there Was some truth in the charges; be went on talking until dinner: he said notning bout making a Statement; we went down to the cars together; we rode Cown on the norse cars and talked on the platform; the conversation was chiefly devoted to the Woodhull scan I alter- ward went to see Mr. Beecher at his house; L asked him tf nothing could be done to stop this a put nis hand on my knee and sai, is ail right now;” we went down to tea aid, “I sball tell the whole trath: Ismail the whole blame on myseli,” ne asked me hat effect the scandai would have upon his lec- tures; | left the house shortly ulverward. HE DID NOT ADMIT. “lo that interview at Peeks&ill, did Mr. Beecher admit to you the commission of adultery?” asked and Mr. Porter insisted that the witness had given the clearest and nfost empnatic evidence against the assumption of the charge of aaultery. Mr. Porter’s delivery, always supermandane, was at this point. He stretched his finger forth and shook it with a tremulous emphasis as an accompaniment to the A FIERCE LEGAL ARGUMENT. | The Defence Win and the Prose- cution Subside. | | | “It is @ poor horse that won’t run well down | bill,” observed Mr, Beecher at the end of yester- | day's proceedings in the Brookiyn trial, in re- | *ponse to tue congratulatory remark that he had | cone well as a witness. The application of this | expression was easily understood. Prepared by | Jong acquaintance with the methods of the trial, | tistening (or so many days to the evidence pro | und con, he realized now easy it might be to tell i @ piain tale witnot interruption or com- | ment; bat when it came to the tough ex- | perience of a cross-examination the work | was of a very @iferent character—an uphill | work, Mr. Beecher, ot all ocuer witnesses, was | tho most completely equipped for an encounter | with the lawyers, Left to his natural resources nO man could so adequately meet the anit of ® practised cross-examiner. fu his testimony of | yesterday, which was maisly narrative, ne exnib- ited @ degree of ease, clearness and composure | which was not altogether anticipated. He was reaay without being pasty, eandid without ap- | pearing to be over transparent, and fuent with- out showing that his lesson had been couned, | CLOSE OF THE PROCERDINGS, | When the day’s proceedings closed and Mr. Beecher descended from the stand to meet the congratulations of his frienas the general verdict | Was that he had acquitted himself well; that the irst bout, ut least, bad not hurt bim one lot THE GREAT CRowD, As might have bega expected, the crowd was very great. Fora quarter of an hour before the proceedings began the chamber resounded with the loud sum of several hondred voices, and | this, added 10 the coniusion incident | wo the arranging and occupytog of ecbairs and tables, made a perfect Babel of noise, fvery moment when the entrance door ‘Was opened a rush of loud and angry sound indi- cated that the mod of applican's ‘or admission in | ‘the corriaor was in wordy conflict with the police. | ‘The entire Moor of the court room was packed and the little apartment adjoining had a nomber ef occupants, few of whom could see or hear any- | thing. The atmosphere was oppressively close, ‘The ventilating machinery failed aod the Jadge looked hopelessly around to see where the remedy jay. AQ annsaal ber of ladies and gentiemen | more of less identified with tne defeagant were in atiendance. PEOPLE PRESENT. Among the members of the Heecher family were Mrz. Beecher, Miss Catharine &. Beecher, Mr, and Mrs, Scoville, da ter and son-in-law of Mr, | Beecher; Dr. Edward ana Mrs. Beecher, a brother of Mra, Beecher, Mr. and Mia. Colonel Beecher and Mr. Beecber’s two younger sons, Plymogth church was largely represented, and inciuded Mr. | and Mrs, Moses 8. Beacon, Roesiter R, Raymond, H. W. Sage, Mra. Shearman, . Howard, Henry Camp, Mr. Caldwell, Alderman Waitney and ex- Dnstrict Attorney Wissiow. Only two of the jormer regular lady attendaots of the court were present—Mrs. Fieid and Mra, Sbearman. On tue bench were Hon. Henry C. Murphy, Judge Beoedict, Corporation Counsel DeWitt, and in the Fiymoutn seats, looming up Mike an eclipsed eaition of the sun, was Mr. Charles Gaylor, the dramatist. There was no disguising the fact that Mr. Beecher naa the sympathy of the audience with bim. It was said by some that Mr. Bvarts might have made a tremendous coup if be had asked the wiiness at that june- ture when toe question was raised as to how he should be sworn, “Mr. Beecher, before the ever-living God, @id you ever commit adultery | with Elizap Tikton ?” and hag the answer come back * it Would Bave gone fying over the wires to the end of the worid and forestailed tne | verdict of the jury. But tuis would not bave been in accorcance with law. Wisely enough po Sensational course of tae Kind was adopted. Mr. Beecher gave nis evidence witna singular absence of feeling or asperity. If he acted be did the acting Wondervully like nature. The cro nation must, however, be the great deciding test of his success on the witness stand. TOR RVIDENCE. The jury were five minutes jate, and as focn as they anawered to tre call Judge Fullerton calied Mr. Redpath. Redpath ovserved precise'y the ame attitude as on the previous day—uis elbows festing on the arms of tne cnair and his beard projecting jorward toward the counsel, as if enxXious to tel! his story in a confidential whisper. He # alittie man, of Israelitiot sporarance, ciosely cropped oeurd and short neck fis voice was cast in a low pites and was rat! indistect, Judging from the narr: he reiated, consisting of an extensive batch of conversations, his memory ex- “i for tenacity and clearn He was |\stened to With deep attention, as much of his veattmony revealed more avout TLton aud Moulton than had been known before. Mr. ber cher opened his soul to this man with nis characteristic [reedom. Witness stated :—I had <everal interviews with «ul, where I leit Monday jor Brouxiyn; interview with echer im tis a'uty; I asked him it he was dO tuk basiaess ; he Was just then called turved round in my grom lying on the tavie would you ike to know w then told him Layoke on Sunday wiih Tueodore, Elizabeth und Frank ; 1 saw the morn- tay, Bhzaveth at vood anc enin NK; id that iveodore was lying down aod said, “He i going tocbarge you With adultery with * Fitzaberh, exvenaing over two or saree years,” [ don’t know bow muco | told Mr. Beecher; Y think J told him that Tueodure raid, 1 giad to see you,’ aod that alter jurteer conversation be seid, “i kuoW that you bave siways ikea me.” He said, “it is adulvery ex- tenaing over two or three years;” I think 1 then | rold Bim | had seen biizaveiD in the afternoon ; { saw Frank Moulion iso; ue Was lyingon a jounges I was sitting near the Mrepiace: Trl- tom sald, “Kedpath is good euougn to see Beech tomorrow; I said I was gviog to Peeksuill o onsimess; Theodore seid, “lel lim Lam going to | ene bum for adultery; Mowton thea said, “Don't co that)? 1 them said J Dave oo locention of telling om that; Theodcre said, “1 (uimk you had bette tel Bim)? Daring the eouversation Prank was | about Wwe room, Wiea be shddeniy | and said, “Theodore, | love Mr. Beecher | « [Jove you; but muck a@ I love vote, 1 | would © eitner of trem Ww tue earth U oue | uchy the other. ‘ eves tet all that you toid Mr. peed lg I ii titel, to the best of my recoliection, be ia Mt. Beecuer vepy? 4. He said, “1 card ali Thevdo bao to say on the id 1 had reaa wue story; I sais, sanject J; 4 “(think I have @ copy oF ie i dou’s aversewon, pemember ue rest o our at as moen hoarse quaver of bis voice, Finally the question was put, and to @ sensational hum tn cour: Red- path answere¢, “No, sir; {did mot ask bim if he had committed adultery, for I did not believe it.” LRT IT STAND, Mr. Fullerton—I move to :rike that out. Toe Judge—Let it stand, Witness continued—Trhe conversation in Brook- lyn was Mr. Evarts asked for the vate of tne interviews and witness stated that they were on the 13th and Lith of July, 1874 Mr, Shearman detained the witness and asked a question as to the cause of nis visit, and received tne folowing answer :—I went to see Mr. Beecher about @ contract I had with him for lectures. LOOKING FOR BEECUER, When Redpath leit the stand a confused stir, altering and scraping of chairs, untversal wois- pering and a craning of necks Evarts turped around, and, facing the defendant, said, “Mr. Beecher will now take ‘he stand.” The conumotion grew greater. Mr. Beecher stood up, calm and collected, and with an intrepid look in his eyes. He took off bis coat and quietly made bis way around the seats of the jury aud ascended | | to the witness chair, A SCENE. Standing by the witness chatr, dressed in black, his hair combed over his ears with unusual care, hia head proadiy erect, his lips compressed and bis color clear and even toned, Beecher looked his best and bravest, When Mr, Beecher reached the stand be was asked if be had any conscien- tious scruples about swearing on the Bible, He said he bad; so the Jucge instructed tie Clerk to administer the oath by afirmation, which he did | ’a the following form:—“You affirm in the pres- ence of the ever living God to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but tne trath in the matter at issue between Theodore Tilton | | and Henry Ward Beecher.” Witners—“I do.” Ee then took seat, and amid @ profound hush Mr. Evarts stood ap and began the examina- tion, Briefly and clearly 4be witness told tne | story of tis live, where he was born, where the | theatre of bis early struggies was, bis visit to Earope during the war, his connection and career | 48 pastor of Piymouth churca, and his ex, erience a8 4 journalist. BERCHER’S BOYHOOD. | Q When were you born und where? A, | was born in Litenfield, Connecticut, in 181%, as 1 am | informea. { ce You are the son of Rev. Lyman Beecher? A. es. & When and at what age did your fatner die? A. He died in 1863, aged eiguty-e1x died wien I was about Q How tong did your fami live in Litchfield? “A. My iather moved fro in 1825, I being then &ovut thirteen years irom there the amily moved to Busion, where we Temainea for eimnt years. Q. Was sour fatner aclergyman of the orthodox faith an New Engiana’ A. tie was; be oMciated over a charge in Litchfield snd aiterward settled | over the congregation of the Bowdoin street | ehureh to Boston; that church was burned down | and rebuilt in anoiher sireet; It was then the Hanover street church and aferward called Bowaoin street churca. | Q How many children bad your father? A, | Tuirteen; ten of whom were raised to man’s es- tate besides myself: six buys and tour gi Lrothers were wil clergymen as well as myseit. q When did you f.st go to college and where to? A. | went to Amberst Coilege in 1530; irom there I proceeded to anu parsned my provessional studies at Lane se logieal seminary ; i studied there all ts the exception of | Six Monthy, when i took charge of the Cineina.th Journal; @e seminary was under tne charge of my father; ue was tne President or it. . When were you ordained a8 @ clergyman ? A. Lwas ors #1 thigs, io 1 and Was ap- pointed over a charge im the same year vt Law- rencebury. Oo the Cincivnatl aud Ohio River; tt Was @ town tnen, perhays, Of some 1,500 indsbie 40's or thereaovuts; tere were other church de- bominations settied there, a Baptist, @ Methodist nu @ Presoyterian church, aud about the time [ | was leaving they were organizing aa Episcooal charea; the bumber of commun cants m my own ebureh when | left was, | think. nineteen; the house could hold three naadred, pri J, if crowded: a oumbered, whea | * T Was not at teat time sup- | ported by the congregation; I vas @ benefictaire under the orders of the Ameriwan Home Missiou- | ary Society. HE BECOMES A CLERGYMAN. Q. Where did you go to irom Lawrenceburg ? A. To the capital of she State, indiaoapolis, im Marion county. j Q. Were you settied over a charge there? A, ¥ had charge Of @ Presvyterian congregation | uere; It Wasasmall church; | was tuea sup- ported by my congregation. receiving asaiary of $800 a year ere avout eight years, | more oF less. | Q@ Aad that brought you down to about 1847? A. Yes. | Q. From that time where hi you lived and in ioe have you been as @ ciergyman? A. have ved in this city a4 pastor | of Pim ‘ei Were yoo the first clerzyman of that church ? A. | Was tie Grst clergyman. @ Had the coarch been ionnded then and were | You cuiled Uo it as the beginniag of 1's existence? A. i was cailed tw the churen oy the gentiemen wio had purchased the property on whica the church was buil\; | tuld these gentiemen they could not call me—that they bad no au‘nority antit wey had formed # caurch; (wey tnen proceeded to jorm & cbureh, #0 that they wight bave authority to cail tn q This was done and you were then called by the church? A. Ye q How larve a coneregation of church mem- bers Was there conuected wita the enuren when you were caiied to ur A tt proper hud, twenty-five Q, Have hao any Interruptic vices a4 pastor from t ume? A. I huve be working Continuously, with very few exceptions— for inavance, 1a tue Hirst year afver I came here and while the church Wasin progress 0: balding, Lexposed m)se'fa utte in visiing the church; L Was taken sick, Woreh enfeevied me for some months—and, with the exception of Orst sickness, I don't recollect naving lost five Sundays in twen- ty-five yeas; 19 Comsequeuce oi that first sickness T snipped to tbe (id World in 1850 and was gone about two montas; I went out ina sailing ship ed tu come back in one, bat returned Ship ASA; MY ecoNd absence was in J, 1 (ink; mY UME on these absences Was speoc io Engiand aad on the Contivent, wirh the exception 01 ide time Laken Up OM (ue Voyages Wo and Lo. 3 VISIT TO RCROPR. Q What wae ibe occasion vl your second visit to Europe? A. i had been worn out wita my pasto- ral work, editorial Work and iecturing inciuental to the opening of the war and the events pre- Cipitaved oy wie War during tue first year, and my iriends advised me to take @ summer Vacation and to come back refresied for tne iail work. @. Were you not invaliced daring that absence? A. No, sir; the year veiore | tad been sume what Invalided, and It Was that | might enjoy rest pre- paratory to a larger work that my iriends wavieed ine to gu. | Q, Had you occasion to make any public demon- ons Wille Were gone’ ness—-Do you mean did 1? » Yes. A. Yes; Lf tad been wanted to do so, bul [ at firs reiased, and, with the exception of a Jew vreakiasis, as toey are culled in bngland, | took ho public part; | weat vo the Continent and spent one or tWo months there and returned to Bnyiand io September, when I was invived to discourse of Ametican affairs, which I did tm Man chester, in Giasgow, kainvureh, Liverpool and in London; in those addresses | reverred princivally | to the positivu of pubic adairs vere, Q How iarge 18 the congregation and bow large is the number of churca memvers in Pywouta echuren? A, {cannot say With positiveness, but jis congregation is only limited by the size of toe and Was bas veen 60 lor tweusy-Lve Mr. Puilerton ofthe witness. Mr. Evarts objected | followed. Mr. | ed years; the number of communicants, I sappore, amounts to 2,500 or 3,000; tt has been over 2,000 for ten years or wore. HIS PERSONAL WABITS, Q. What been your habitual labors as cler- gyman in direct charge of vnat cuurch congreza- tion? A. 1 have preached every motoing and alternoon ag unday and continued for Series of years Wednesuay night fase Friday nignt meetings and t was ed our Social con erences or social meetings in tue par- lors of the charch; the “octal meetings I have re- mitted to others; tne Wednesday lectases I con- tinued til just before the war, Q. During (hte long period of your services as clergyman of Plymouth church what other public empioymen's have you had? A. I have been connected ever since [ went into the pulpit of Plymouth church with the New York Jn it aiter my first year, not as a member of the staff, but as acontrivutor, having a coiuumn expressiy given me for my pubiications—a eolumn of my own—in which I puolished one article every in 1870 Ttook charge of the Crristian took the edtorsnip of th endent in jatter parc of 18€Q; that waa alter Dr, Bacon, Dr. bo and the Rev, My. Taompson had re- ne Up to what time, tf at al!, aid you cease your editorship of the Independent? A, When | toot charge of the Christian Union; 1 was @ regular contributor up to 1866; my connection with it ceased m 1866, Q. In the interval between your asvuming the | editorship of the CArwtan Unton had you any | Tesponsible connection with ity A, There was & movement set on foot to establish which, 1n view | of other arrangements, was not carried out, I de- onan “4 take any position that would pegin 58 ot me in any antagonism with tne independent; 1 The Chrisnan Union, when first organized, was | called the Church Union; iv was founded to oring all the Obristian churches together on one piat- form; @ paper was passed into the hands of some Inends 0! mine in which I was under contract to write, and @ friend came to me at Peekskill, | and circumstances at that time arose woich | bling ee into that position; that was in Janu- 18 % When you took the editorship of the Christian Union what the extent of the subacription list? A, It was said to be 8,000, but 1t was more probably about 600 bond fide savseribers. “The | Christian Union was estadiished to oring all | Christian Churches on one platiorm,”’ said the | witness, and he was proceediug to explain jurther | the pokey of the enterprise when Mr. Beaca ob- , jected and muttered ina low grumovle that the matter was immaterial, Q During the first year after you took charge— anterior to December, 1870—to what exient cid the circulation of tie Christian Union increase? A. Loamuot give the exact date it grew to over 80,000, Q, Besides your services as clergyman and your | editorial services did you have other literary | Work? A. I had peen largely a lecturer from the | second year; L began in 1849 and continued tll | this trial began, Q. Since your connection with Plymouth church Daye there been several intervals of vacation, if 80, jor about what length of time? A. my coptract with the church called for a | vacation in August; that was on account of the | hay lever coming on in August; afterward my Vacalion Was extended irom the 1st of August to | the middle o! September; then, within the last | five years perbaps, the charch, by a special vote, | extended my vacation to tae Ist of October; until lave years ‘my vacations were wholly speut at Peekskill; within tne lest ‘our years or so | have $akel my Vacations at the Wilite Moantalus, LITERARY LABOR, | _Q Have you been the author and publisher of _ any works? A. I wish to correct myself; I ought | to have included in @ previous auswer aoout lec- | turing, toat since 1866, by @ vote of my church, L | went into the fleld as a political lecturer, aud dur- ring aul tie stormy time immediately preceding the Kansas tronbles I-was in une babit of makin, political speeches and preacuing nots jew politic sermons; have been ® voluminous write | thirty-Ave volumes now standing ia my Dame with regard to my WORK ON THR “LIVE OF CHRIST,’ | the contract for that work was entered into De- cember 1967, and the Orst volume Was issued Sep- | tember 1871. | @ Did the preparation of that work occapy | your mind to any extent? A. Yea, to @ very | Breas extent. Taking ® memorandum from bis pocket and | turning over the leaves with @ nervous bend, he announced having signed the contract for “The Life of Carist” in 1867. Mr. Beecher, just begin- ning to enter into the serious phase of the case, grew more deliberate and gave his answers leas | Ireely than belore. Q. When did yon write your novel of “Nor- wooa"? A. It preceded the other; 1s appeared first in the Ledger io 1867 ana in book form in 1868, | Q. When were you marriea? A, I think tn 1837, Q. flow jong beiore your marriage were you uc- qualuted with your ailaaced bride. A. For seven ears. Q, How old were you when you were married? A. [think twenty-three, THE ENGAGEMENT. “I was enraged to her jorseven years before T married her.” Atthis Mrs. Beecher and all the ladics 10 her neighborhood janghed heartily, and, | the Witoess continued, mis face ligating up with | the remembrance ol the old days, “‘whep we patr were twenty-four.” We were twenty-three aod twenty-four for one part of the year aod then we were twenty-(our for she remainder.” (Laughter.) Mrs, Beecher was very mach amused at tuls ex- planation. @ Were yon tn college then? A. I was. Q. How macy cotiaren have you had of this marriage? A. 1 ave jour W.th mie, sad five are Watting for me. Q How many grandchidren? A, Eight, Q. Duriog the period o: your marriage was there way interval of separation between yourseit aud your wie? A. No; except when I was in Aarope or away lecturing. Q Of late year Visit the south? A. Yes, sir; for the teueit of her heauh; she began to go South in 1870 or 187i. &. Walle you were at indianapolis did your wile #0 to Connecticut on account o: sickDess! A. No, hot to Connecticut, but to ber home in Massaciu- | setts; 1G0 LOb Fecvilect, except on these occu. wious, tiat she bad ou home, ion iO gO away itum DOMESTIC MATTERS. Q Im regard ty the cunducts o1 dome: Mr. Bee What was toe babit of Te=pece (0 your Wile or yourseit ha them? A. From a very euriy period { remitted to jtire coutro: of iny Secular affairs 5 we last few years | never drew my own usurer’s accounts were sent to come in or what mone: Q. Wat was the condition of your wife health and strengtn? A. Sve had ao amount of strengta that, ia fact, cimost gave her the strength of ten ordipary Women ani an accident befell ner by which sue Was thrown oa the stune Stepdofa bank im Brookiyn; she was sound and eMctent veyond the nature of ordinary women. The first fallacy overturned was that of his estrangement from his wile and bis domestec trou- bles; “a Woman of more sound sense and affec- tion I never knew;” he was so much in the hands of his wife that he never knew how mach money he owned; his salary was drawo by bis wile, and of late years he had not only relegated the man- agement of all aifuirs to her, but even gave be! authority to opea his private iecters. Q What was your madit in regard to your cor respontencet A. F eariy period | heid sacredness of jevters; I would not open my children’s 5 lL woe uld she open mine; during the last large that | felt somebody must assist me with It, 4nd my wile Would open My ietters, and to a ¢ siderable extent answer them; t( I were ir howe and sne Were in doadt o1 any matcer calling for an answer, she would defer it unt my return. | @ Mr. Beecher, during your seitiement here, What has been your aanit in regard to personal visita of Intercourse with your partshiouers at large—as to intimacy among you? A. In my early years | auempted @ vood aeal of visiting; oatsiae mands wasted my time, and | made urrange- mens that | could ve seen ‘at my house or in tue aren; subsequent tu that i found ic imposmvie eituer Wo Visit or receive toe roultitudinvus calis that Were made upon me, and jor (he last twenty ye wits the exception of weddings » ne ve dove very litte vi iting; in genera 1am not @ visiting pastor, Q. Has taore been intimacy between your amily d other famines? A. Yes; I was cautioned @cainst that, but i felt, as a geutieman, thas I nad igol bo Keie@ct My Own clicie Of acquaiutances, anat 1 did not care Who was jeaious of Who made remarks about it; | twink, Witu a single ex- Cepiion, these Vials Have Deen confined to per. sons of my OWn parish; 1 lave vised some cergymen. & During this time Dave yon had a large per- soual acquaintance With men eugaged in paulic afairs—in twe afaire of the cuurca? A, You meaw in the community wt larze ? q Yes! A. Yes, sir; 1 have met many men, but bave not lormed particular acquaiusances with them. @ Have you had corrrespondence with them ? A. It wili be found tuat | Gave had such corre- spondence. q. During the Jaet twenty years what has been the average of your public appearances per week t A. Lmay say that from 1944 anti 1573 | have aver- aged 6.x 101i grown addrestes per week. A MAN OF WORK. A man of wonderial work in his time. thirty years | averaged six full grown addresses per week.” He tad been up and down the jand, | preaching here, lecturing there, rousing up ine | anti-siavery spirit in this State he Was known as the brightest, moss eloquent advocate of the negro that ever spoke. Q@ When did you first become acquainted with Heaty ©. Bowen? A. In 1347, When | came wo Brookiya. @ What relation had he to the religions society then tormed—to the church? A. He Was one of | the Coustituens members of the chur mr. Bowen Was connected with the Independent; be was @member of Piymourh cvurcn. THR INDEPENDENT. @ Was Mr, Bowen proprievor or part propric- ears my correspondeuce has been so | | a ur wife has bad occasion to | i "solution of your connection wita it? A. Durtn | tons joliowed, tor of the Independent? A. fle was co-proprie- wor, and when I took editorial coarze of tho pa- per be was sole proprietor. Q. Were you intim: lates and friends; 1f 80, (or what period? A. rst two weeks | was in Brooklyn | was a guest at his house, and Subsequent to that we worked hand in hand tor years in the estaolishment of Plymouto church, and he more than any ovhef man being active in fe adairs of the church I saw hm almost every rs What were your relations with bim tn 1867? Had anything then occurred to interrupt your relations with him? A, Yes, sir. Q, What situation of the paper led to your cis- ‘the period of the reconstruction measures, after Ls| had leit it pursued a line to criticise me; in 186, when L wrote the Oveveland letter, in the month of Anguat, the Indepen- dent criticised me so severely at the time that the whole public were down on me pretty much, with (le exception of the democratic party, and I felt toat the paper whicn I had uelped to fasnion irom its birth was bow being Used against me, fnd I came to the conclusion bot to maintain connection with It, and [ gave notice, accurding to the contract, to terminate the agreement, Q. What was the form and extent of your con- nection? A. Ihave an impression that | Waa to furnish one serinon & week, and that [ was to fur- nish ao article weekly; I got compensation under This agreement, whic. Was terminated accor to the terms iaid down in the contract, Q. From that time torward, Mr. Beecher, what were your relations with Mr. Buweo up to Decem- ber, 1870% A, Well, sir, they were much dimin- ished, and there was @ consideravle degree of coolness; Mr. Bowen was ali tals time & pew holder of the church; he Was not an active member of toe churet, in his characteristic way he told how the disso- Intion of his connection wits the Independent came about, He wrote the Cleveland letter, and all the republican party—with the exception of the demo- crats, he naively added—were down upon him, The Independent criticised him more severely than | ho thougut he deserved, and # disruption of rela- Q. Mr. Beecher, what time did you first form the acquaintance of Mr, Tilton?” A. I recollect him, 1 4 recollect right, when he was employed on & Dewspaper, (Mr. Beecher was understood to Say taut the name of the paper was the Globe.) If Irecollec: right my fi:st acquaintance with bim Was woea be was a shorthand reporter. Beecher met Tilton when the latter was a short- hand reporter on a now defunct New York paper. Tilton was comely and agreeable, ana Beecher employed him to report hissermcns, As Tilton heard thts part of the evidence he geemed to come for & moment under the.spell of Beecher’s sym- pathetic voice. Tears came to his eyes, and ne cropped his head for a moment on his breast. In the early days Beecher had been very kind to Til- ton, and, sald he, “one of the conditions on which Itook the paper was that he should be my as- mistant.”” Witness—I cannot remember tt he was then re- porting anytomg from Plymouth churen; Mr. Bur- Us secared tue services Oi Mr. Tilton to report for bs mons which he intended to puviish im @ volum Q What was ois state and condition of life? A. He was very young, and of cugaying presence and comely appearauce; his address won my sym- hie big the frat. Q. From that time in what form and in what degree did you become assoctated with him on the paper? A. I saw nim a good deal; | saw him betore 1860, because he had transierrea his reia- tions from the Voserver to the Independent; I used alter that to see him trequeatiy, Whenever Il was in town, in connection with the Jndepenfent; our personal relations on both sides were very cordial. Q. Were you and hein the habit of conferring together regarding @ common interest, the pro- prietary interest of the papert A. lle was witty, amusing ana very conversational, und I chatte: with him; [ aid not come into close persona rela- tions with him until he came into the manage- ment of the paper, in 186) realter for two or three years we wei gether almost datiy; this ‘Was & common tuterest 01 companionship and of oe ete ud it Was dowaright loving on my par’ Q. During this time how soon did you be. come aware of any purpose on his part to succeed ‘ou on ihe Independent? A. 1 ao not know; I | ave an impression that it was my desire he snould succeed me, and I 80 expressed It. Q. YWehen dia you first begin to pian and purpose for that position for bim? A. It was in 1863. Q. At (hat time he was known as assistant ed- itor? A. Oh, yes; that was one Of the conditions on which I agreed to take charge of the paper, that he shouid be one of my assistants; that ar- Tungement was made by me. Q. How was tue arrangement made by which you Were to obtain thai piace 1or him? A, When the proposal to send me to Europe came np my ciurch was desirous tnat | should be sent, but it was necessary that Isnould have the consent of Mr. Bowen, with whom ihad @ contract at that time; an arrangement was made between me and Mr. bowen vy which | should give up certain vestea rights; 1 was to correspond with the sper, as | wos breaking up tue old arranyement; agreed that Mr. Tilton should take my place for a year and [| would allow my name to Stand jor a year, that Mr. Tilton migat continue for @ year to | eait the paper, and after that 1 woulda withdraw 1%; this occurred between tne yeara ; L went tp Europe in 1863. Q. Prior to this time, bir. Beecher, did Mr, Tilton gud you come mto discussion on @ public gued- | tion? A. Yes, sir, im 18d) BRECHER'S FIRST DIFYERENCE WITH TILTON. Q. What was tnatquestiony A. The question In Plymouth churca Was whether we snoaid coutriv- uce junds to the American Board of Foreign Mis- ions; (he Giscussion lasved (nree days wud Was terminated by a gen-ral mee it was a ques tion of publicity aud interest. Q. Wiwt was tae general versy? A. Tne general at of controversy was whether Plymouth couch, Which had signalized {is devouion 10 tae anti-slavery cause, suonid Con. | tripute to the Anti-Slavery Society or to tne Board 0} Missions Wiic: Was accused oi pro-siavery teu- | deneies or trimoaing; this ted to an animaced dis cussion; [did notspeak on the que lecture ruou, bus I did tn the enurek, and | was | Feplied to by ar. *Tilton; teere was a great ceal potnt of the contro. Oi discussion, but it did not tranecena the good | 4 ieeling Laat I'see here in court; Mr. Tuton was ta favor ol throwing over the America By Tilton first picked 4 quarrel with Beec' back as 1860, Tve witness resurrected a long-for- gotten incident in the history of Plymouth church, when an agitation occurred as to whether the church should contribute to the Anti-Slavery Board of Missions entirely or divide its cuntri- butions with that Board and the Américan Board Of Missions. Beecner’s liberal instincts ied nim to advocate a division of the money among Mr. Beecher went on to say that it was throngn bis favor (he Matter got ite ears insice the cnurc! as the question Was a most unpaiatadie one; Mr. Tilton coptined himselt to showing that the Amerie can B a thought that was the a iW he (Mr, Beecner) maintained the right of others to supscripe to tae American Board if they deemed 1% proper, both the Anu "y Society and we American Bourd were tue Leneficiaries of Plj- moutn caares. . Now, on that occasion, Mr. Beecher, or at shout that time ‘id you perceive on Mr. Tilon's part any growing Views to supersede you on tue paper? I dia, but | paid mo attention to is, |. At abont this time did there occur any inter- roption in Mr. Titon’s intimacy im visiting at your house? Yes, sir, oat | eanaot say there was any very timacy ; he Was never very oiten 1a my house, end | Was nota rezuivr visitor at bis; we would meet ia toe Street and in shops, but | n occasion When he ceased to visit m Q. Abow is time, early in the War, was the any Occasion on which Mr. iitoa periormed any act of kindness to’ you or your ‘amily that im- pressed you specially toward him? A. Yes; he Was doing me littie Kindnesses, and he did one t stood Out in my regard very specialiy ; it was fu reference to my son. @. Da you lee itvery mach? A. 1 didand I do; 1 did 80 Xpress myself toward him. ‘The Coart here tok @ recess watil two O'clock. APTRR RECESS. The resumption of the proceedings found the evideuce dipping into a more serious phase of the case—the relations between Boecner and Tilton at the time of the Cleveland letter. Notning material had been touched up to this time. The audience dropped into @ serious, listening mood. The at- tendance was still greater than in the forenoon | and the heat no less oppressive. Mre. Beecher wore @ white iace cap om ber head. She wag r, snimated and intensely attentive. Her | daughter, Mrs, Scoville, ana her daaghter-in-law, | Mrs. Colonel Beecher, sat veside ner. To thes poor women, wrapt up in the great man who sat | in the Witness siand, the moments were iraught with great importance. Every word dropped by | the witness was treasured up like gola, They watobed his every movements and hung upon nis every word as if their eternal saivation were in the balance. In 1865, or 1965, when (be Cleveland letter and the comments of the /ndependent, given in evi+ dence 92 tue other side, Were made public, aid they affect in any way the relations previously subsisting vetween you and Tneudore Ttiton? A. It did Q0t product any effect socially to separate us; with regura to tae imierview between Til on and Judson, im 1906 or 1666; 1 went to the /nde pendent office ; tuere Was some excitement; I saw | Tueouore, aud toid hum tuat Mr. Judson had been to my bodse, and bad reporied to me thas te and [ton G10 made ome siatements respecting me whiel boi 1 impatkuon of immorality against me in connection wita my Conduce with & womao; | caae rigat to lim to Know bow the matier was, wita some strong exX- ciamaiions; he then smd ft was not trae that Judson admitted where Was sums Inia. take, aud that 0¢ Would go fgat of and see Jud- #00 aod Know What the matier meant; be went, and witer @ short timé returned; @ shore time ori eaW fim guia, Aad Le sate was alia lmisiake; bua, Judgua Gad ¢x plained tue matter, | | bis it | conversativos wich him; | de | tual friend”? was told Moniton, | lug her m my cburen; SHEET. and that the whole thin, was an otter mistake; that ho bad never made in reapect to mo. of any such language A REMARKADLE LETTER. 104 wee this about the time ne wrote you that This letter of Tilton’s to Beecher, read to the jury by Mr. Evarts, snowed extremely affec. tionate state of relations between tue two in 1865. “Woether you be poor or rich, weak or power/ul, my heart will hold you all the same,’ and very Mach more Of the same se@rapnic gush peculiar to Tilton. Witness —Will I state the circumstances under Whion L received thas tetier ? Mr. Evarte—As far ag they connect Tilton with Witness—We hed some conversation abont the matter, about whether he was a friend to me or jd as to terms of intercourse; that conver- there shouid be no miscouception on the pi the.iriends of either, “Suppo-e you express to me your views and i will express mine to you,” aud with thas kind of lovers’ quarrels he wrote me that letter, and thas was the ena of it. MIGHT, BROOKLYN, Nov. 30, 1865, Ray, Hevny Warp Breousn:— MY Dean Farexp—Revurniag home late to-night, Team not go to bod without writiag you a lettor. ‘Twice [have now been unwillingly forced to appear Qs your an.agonist below the public—the occasions ive Afier the trst, Yoars apart. am sure our friendship, instead of being waimed, Was strengthoned. Atrer this last, f may guess your heart by knowing mine, Lam sure the old love waxes instead of wanes, Two or three days ago (1 know not how or why im- elled) Ltvok oat of its bding vlace your sweet and reoious leiler, written to me trom kngland, conialuing the aifecionute message which you wiahed should live and test ty after your death. To-night | hayes been thinking the ase I shouia die first (which is equally robabie) L oughs (o leave in your band my las\ and testament of reciprocated fove. ‘My friend trom my byyhood up, you have been to me what do other man has veen—what no other mun can be. While I was a student the infinence of your mind on mine was greaier than all books and ail teachers, ‘The intimacy with which you have honyred ine tor twelve years‘has been (next to my wife and tamiiy) the greatest adection y life, By youl was baptized, by of ‘ou married. You have been my winister, teacher, will ther, frieng, companion. What a debt lowe You that can never be paid! First of all, m; awaxeued 0 ny Feigious lite, then the development ot my min open-door of opportunity tor labor, thea my quick: gatheres public reputation—all thosé, my dear friend, owe in so large a dexree to your own'kindness that my gratitude cannot be written in words, but mustbe ex- pressed only in love. Then, what hours we have hed together! What arm- in-arm wanderings! Waoat hunts alter pictures and a1 What mutual revelations and commuuings! What intermingtings of mirth, of tears, of prayers! ‘The more I thing back upon this friendship, the more sure Lam that not your public position, nov your fame, not your genins, but just your heart's affection, has been the Secret of the bond between us; for whether you had been high or low, great or common, I believe that ay heart, Knowing its mate, would uave loved you exacuy same. e Now, therefore, I want to say that if, eitber long ago or iately. any word of mine, whether sponen or printed, whether pubite or private, has given you pain or ret, blot it (com your memory, and in 1s place write your forgiveness, jor my sake. loreover, i T shoud dle, leaving rou alive, T ask you to love tay cuildren for their father’s sake, who has ht them to reverence you and regard you asa man q ‘ One thing more. My religious experiences have never been more refreshing xnd tearing than during the last Chave never had before such fair and winning houghts of the other lite. With these thouchis you connected in a strange and beautiful way. Ihave a beliet that human friendship outlasts death. Ours is yetof the earth—earthy, but it shall one day be lifted Up above the earth—to stand sate, without scar or flaw, without a breath that can blot it, without a fear that shall make it tremble. Meanwhile, 0 my friend! may the Heavenly Father Diess you, guide you, streugshea you, ilumine you, and at last crown you with ti erlastiig crown! And now. youd night! aad sweet be your dreams of nworihy, but e end. eesheneposee 1tiE ODORE TILTON, A marked sensation in the audience followed tne conclusion of the reading ol tae ister. Witness—Our associations continued from that time to 1870; I mest him in New York and at bis own house, and I met bim at diverse ieetings on public occasions; from that occurence | have no recollection of any penveas intimacy with him, or the absence of i speak now of 1870, Q you recollect, in the winter o/ 1870, any association you were brought into with’ him under diferent women’s suffrage associativns! A. ThAt Was in 1869, sir. Well, 1 tate about that? A, In reference to him and me Q. Yes—with reference to him aud you and your relations with respect to the two soci-ties, A. There was & co-operative suffrage soviety up to 1860 having Mecuogs at bis house; it Was (ven KnOWB 43 THE ROUAL RIGHTS ASSOCIATION. About 1869 what was called the Boston wing of | the Female Suffrage Association heid a conven- tion at Cieveland, and formed a national secierys, of which i was elected President, not knowing that there was anotuer national society tormed in New York of the New York wing, aud thus | iound myself between two female national societies, L being President of ore I don't know who tae other. Butafter I had consented to let my name go belore the convention [ reouilect having a ai t Ishouid not do so, and he almust persuaced me to send @ telegram withdrawing my name, Alter the jormation of that society in toe following May the societies of the two wings were absoroed into one Bqual Kights’ Association aud Tilton was | made Presigent o1 it. Lucid as a crystal spring, comoact and compre- hensive was the explanation oggue witness as to connection With the wales Bquai Rights movement. He was elected President by oue of the two women’s svcteties, and Tilton would Lave dissuaded him from accepting the position. for your portrait—tne lage portraitr A. 1 do— Withess looks at memorauduim—that was 11: 1854, eitner late 10 the W.nter of 1ses or early in 180; 1t Was orought about some way in tis wise—i have no distinct fecullection avout it, except it Was this: He Was very desirous for me to go to Mr. Page’ studio aod sit tor my portrait; sup. | posed Mr. Page was a fiend of tis; he was a iriend 0} mme Only this way, that he married @ woman of our congregation 1h #hom we were interesteu, and I met him alter that aiew times; | sat for the por’rait very Olteo—more than fiity sittiogs; Mr. ‘Tiiton Was somet mes preseur, not otten; T can y that L saw the portratt aftervard m_ Til- house; my Imireseion is, However, that T have very littie recotlection of Mr. Titon's early connection with Pivmuth chureh; the first jorimation f @ change in his reilcious jaith and duties 1 tound tressed on the matter, and | was called, a8 pas- tor, to conifer about it; I never expostuiated with him or brougMt tue suvject beiore him in @oy Way; I considered it @ Grift which Neaitninl roung minds take freqnentiy while passing through a transition state of persoual vee, leaving it to time and exvertence fo rectify) Was during is time the letter reverred to be had assumed the responsibilities of Christian communion there appeared one or two articies ia tae Jndepend.nt whica RXCITED VERY GRRAT ALARM, and to my personal knowisdge gave great dis. tress, The /adependent ar to me, and it Was thus brough , Jor out Northwes', where my brother lived, I was neid responsibie jor bis aberrations. This led me to ie some "+ recollect them tn« oiviaualiy; Loniy recall (hem as connected partly Wita pis #uccess In bis conduct of the Independent, and my general idea was not tn the siigitest de- gree tu circumscribe his liberty of investigation, | batto put nim upon his guard against accepting aod acting upon Wrong conclusions. q it the letter was writien A. Yes, Here Mr. Shearman said he and ¥T. Morris wou'd |} iw turday) evening, at five ke che testimony of Mr. they came ‘out of tne the Conversation Was pleasant Ww me and I de- sirea to see More of Mr. Moulton; my impresstoa is Wat We Waiked several times; | found bim to be wn educated, cultivated man, fond of letters, @ connoisseur more than ao artist; {thought him @ Worshipper Of art and a person of culture. TILTON'S BRASONS. Inquiries as to dates were answered by the wit- ness pulling out referring to # copious mem- orandum, which he used freque’ during the alvernoon. A satcastic explanation was given of ‘Tilton’s falling off in his attecdance av religions services tn Piy mouth church. “When he founa him- written; avter | as a (his Stage of tne controversy that | rr. wife was dis | | Versatiout self made much of befero the public he gradually | loosened the ties that bound him to the church.” As the history of the acquaintance with the “ma- who was sitting near Judge Morris, rested nis head on the palm of his band and fasteacd his eyes on the witness. Q. Up to the end of 1970 was thac the extent and | for as (ar as | Know, or to December, 1870, had yon im any way Q formed tne acquaimtance of Mrs. puiton? A. I knew her a8 | Knew of tuonsands persons, sec- i knew her to belong to thas Deodorhood Without bemg able to recali | her neme; my memory o: names is poor; I see x0 Many peuple that one-hal of my chur h wembers Ido not know by name, but | recognize them to be members of my cour is ail Tkuew of Mrs, Moulton prior to tuat thin: @ Dia you kuow Mrs, Morse, or Mra. Richards, As she then was, prior to ihe marriage of Mr. Ti tun? A. Ido voi remember, sir. At the time of the marriage between Miss Richards anc Mr. Tilton, aod whicn ceremony Was pe tormed by you, bad you any knowledge of or personal acquaintance with her? A. I only Knew that she belonged :v @ set of giris that Weus to school tugether and that were associated wien my daughter; | used to wear glizabetm Menards Spoken Of among tne wiry more particulatty about it { Gon’t Know; she Was born velore ue “ you refer? A 1 wnt bo Inaianapous ; Chat is ail | Knew Of VO Miss Riccards—that she belonged to this you set of people. At We wedding, there‘ore, your interest so | far as personal acquaintance Was concerned A. | rememoer thas iauy ual would remember & beaurluul victure; I felt Laney Wore tue fairest Oulr 0 emenver | pote | a girl met bim wt the door and said Mrs, Tilton did of your acquaimtance with Air, Moultum! A. | | York, and then came home to my a @. Do you recollect the occurrence of sitting | ber that J Yover married, and 1 had strong syoipathy and” hopes Jor taeie future. THE TILTON WADDING. There was some gi of sentiment as Mr. Beecher spoxe of Mrs. Tilton at the time she was married. “They were the {atrest pair {ever mar- ried,’ said he with a smile, and he checked him- selfas if about to induige tn some eulogy of the laay, Now, as if seated in the schoolroom at a Friday night talk, he rattled away over the ex- pressions he recallea of Tilton’s when speaking of bis wite, “You don’t know what a treasure I nave got.” “1 am marrieM To the dearest creature that ever lived,” ,On anotner occasion, “nere ta @ litle Woman down at my hoyse that loves you better than all the world,” and so on, Beach, Fullerton, Moulton and ‘Tilton sitting solemn as a quartet of owis, walle all the coart besides were in good humor, Beecher continued to relate a score of reminiscences concerning Tilton and his wile, Q Mave you visited them? A. I think, wh they lived in Oxtord street, I visiced them twice 1 visited inem once, and | bave an impressiva that I visited them there again: | have uo recol- lection of the circumstances of the visit, Ailer they removed to Mrs. Morss’s house, and bevore wey erent to their own house in Li ingston street, did you visit them? A. I vinited © them quite Irequently ; that brougut taem nearer vo my house, Q. in what form did Mr, Tilton begin to invi'e our Visits to his pouse tA. LT have not louked Gk ON that matter, but trom @ geueral impras sion I believe that us early as 1860 we begun to be together # good deal in our editorial reiutions, Bat, as # matter of tact, until alter they wens to Mra. Morse’s irom Oxiord sireet, you were nos often with him? A. N Q, Dia Mr. ‘Tilton Kk of visits to hi and of about knowing his wile? A, He spoke muringly of ner; Lave felt that this man thoug. he had got the one Woman In all the world; I sai What 4 dlessed consummanon tha’ Wass thas be was the fortumate diver Who brought up the pearl; Mr, Tilton said to me, ** You have no idea what a wie I nave got; be said Co me on difler- ent occasions, * Why don’t you come down and see ne, a& YOU soe Your other friends?” I made be eply to Dim thavi did to others, “We will do just a8 much for you quite as well; this Visiting “uni excitement 1 cannot oear;” “Well,” sat » “You can be as quict as you bave @ mind to on these occasions; he sald, “there is one little Woman down in my bo! that loves you more than you iave any idea oi," on another occasion he said, * You have & tor Iriead in ner than any one needs.” q@ When did you first come to have persona acquaintaace with Mrs, Tilton? A. 1 think it mast be subsequent Lo 1860; 1 have no very vivid reco! lection o: Visits made tuen, though I have @ geveral recollection of not going. there irequenwy Uutil 1863; on recuroing from Kurope | Degan to toimk of giving souvenirs Of my Visit to irte: Which coud nos be uniess 1 bad visited t frequently T Lought wood carving», moss agates, Cy Q. On that occaston did you make & present to Mrs, Tilton? A. Yes, a topaz orvoca; it Was ta & box, and | remember she tovugnt it was @ pill box—(great laugiter)—tuat 1 brougot home to her husoand—(iore laughter); oa opening the box sbe broke into immoderate iaugater ana said, “I told Mr. Tilton to send me howe some pills, and | supposed be seat suem by you.”"—(Lauzh- ser.) q. While they were living at Mrs, Morse’s and beiore going into their own house io Livingstoa strect uid you become an babitual visitor ab their house? A. i Visited them @ gooo deal ut rhe house of Mrs. Morse, but I not Know that t visil them there as much aid subsequeatly, Whea they went to reside in their OWA house. Q Vo you remember tue oovasion of presentiag A picture to Mrs. ‘tiitony A. {had written “Noc- Wood,” and in the eariy Cuapters OF 1s i was in despair avourit, aud [knew (nat somedody who Would nut be critical would give me strengta aud encouragement to go ou with it; tread to Mrs, ‘Titou the opening chapsers, and sae was pleased with them, ecialiy that part where the oid doo- = ne a tor gues out into tue eids to gatner a wreath to Le placed on the bead 0: the Lavy When It is Vora; I gave the picture to Mrs. tuat Visit; 1 du pot recoliect the form tu wien 16 was given; | thiok I set it on the mantelpiece ia the back parlor, and subsequently it was pat the irout pari 1 do not recollect of being there alierward waen it Was not tere; I distributed thirty or forty souveoirs amvog my friends and among the chidren of my frieids—amoug tuese With whom I was lutimate, Q. During the residence of this family tn Livi ston stiees WHat Was the mavner of your visits there on to 1870? A. The Post Oflice Was near tae coruer of Washington street; waiter moruinyg study lwould go to tue Post Oilice, take my ieiters 1m my Duud und read them, aad (beD drop in to see Mr, uitou's ‘amily. The taie grew tender aa it progressed. He was in despair with nw novel of “Norwood.” He waa about to discontinue writing it, but the thought Struck, him he would go down to Mrs, Tilton aud read her the opening chapters and the effeat. ie wanted evcouregement, and he got it, The nove: went on and proved @ suc . Mr. Beeow er's voice dropped toa low and gentile monotone as he told the incident. Witness—My habit was then to go down and get my Irtters alter getting toreuga my morning studies—to take my letters in My Gand and rewd (oem us 1 Weal dioag, and drop im taere halt aa hour im (he mivrhing Or longer—f it was longer; then, making aoy littie calls that I wanted to make, 1 trequem‘ly weaot over the ferry to New ner. Q But your havit thea was to complete your work in the morning? A. Yes, sirt | Gave always beeu an early riser ana an early Worker, aud b, tea o'clock “4 Wuuld usually be duue wita my studies. q. gen yon went out for exercise and recrea- tiout A. Yes, sit; for eduorial work or any @. So that whatever call you did make at thia house, fu you to Say, Was at (nat time oi dav’ A. Ib aa immense Mmajeriy Oo; jnstances, Q. Now, have you any reculiecuon, Mr. Beeoner, of any nadit of cauing there im tue evening, of of any Calls there lu the eveniugt A. No, sit; exce whea (ue Was company of Some consultas oa commitiee; 1b the yeurs 1867-8-9 | may wave Leen there a few Umes, bat it Was nos only contrary Any hadli, DAL It Was impossibie; my evenings are Musuy eayauyed im speakiug or equivalent W TK, . 50 yOu bad nO hus of maaing Calis iu the evening? A. alr. &. For fmiliar cals with your Intimates were they 10 the Gay time usnally? A. Alinuss always, unless [s(rolied ap to iriend Howard's im tue evea- ing with lun, ont the ordinary calls were made usually in the afternoon, avout five o'cioce; I Mean hear people; near \. q How wequeniy did you see Mr. Tilton at nis own house? A. 1 shoud tuink vlien as Was tnere or as he Was not there if the time may have been there and hair ime not, just as the case may be; wuen he woaPed in tis Owe house, and wro.e as often as he would be at hume. Q At the hours of your cails? A. Yes, sir, TAKING MRS. TILTON OCT TO DRIVE. Q, Do you remember in the year 1s70 taking Mra, Tilton out to drive? A, | do, Q. Aod how uid the first of that courtesy arise? A. I don’t Kuow how it arose; [ omy Know | bought a pair of Mine grays and it was not yet time to go up lv My place; | Was keeping (nem here ¢ week or (wo; | went down one vrigut morning with @ Duggy and took her out to the park, am week or 4 fortnight | he Lorses up to the rive any more. Q@. You wens there a second time after this com a. Yea, sir. Q Wao did you see there then? A. Mr. Tilt snd Mra, Tivon; | thiuk first | saw Bi at tne Window, and ne came ont; not get out of the buggy; I with him on various things, but don’t remem said ft bad come down to take Lapbie out to ride, or your wie our to Fide; be called her to tae door; sue was witnin: I taea spoke to her apd sai to see if you woald i clined; be playfully reproached and take th upon 80 Q. Did you say anything at tats tim her motver haa said to you? A. Idon’t recvileot Q Now, sir, 19 that year, prior to Decem ber, do you remember an occasion of being jor to visit Mra. fon im Augusée of that year, oF the time reverred to? A. In August, 1870, | was at Fockwkuli; | received w litte note from ner saying —— kr. Fullerton—One moment, Mr. Evarte—tlave you that note? A. No. G. Wout became oft? A. | don't kaow. Q. Was it jost of destroyed, it was But pre served ? A. No, sir. &, What was it’ A. It was a request she wanted to see me. Mr. Fulierton—One moment. Alter consuiiation with Mr, Beach—No odjec- tion, wr. Evarts—That note was what? A. Simply @ | request, being sick, Wisiimg that 1 sould come to tisthe age of your dauyhter to whom | see ler. Q, Did you know of her sickness before? I don’t Fecollect; | think st Was the $08 of August, 1870, You were at 'eexskill on 4 vacaucaut A, Yes, sir, By easy stages the story reached the time when Beecher made the famous visit “to Mra, Tiliom whea she was lying sickin bed, Sbe had sent jor Dim, tae respondent. Me went up to her room on the second Noor and saw ner, What was sad between them? Witness threw his head forward, vont itin thought for a moment, flushed a litte aud sald he couid not exactly recoliect the terms of the conversation they bad, and there were mysterious winks among plamtif’s counsel. When teijiug of the second visit the witness sald Dot care to be seen that day, and sent a mes’ io the words, All wii oe weil in the futari Q flow jong since you pad seen her, do you remember? A. Ldon’t remember. Q liow long hed you been up at Peckakt ? A. Lean’t say irom any p sitive remembrance; t can oniy judo ir vu. You know contrary of having \

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