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‘arow govermmen: 1 not she man, te ao It; Though, even did he try, it would be ss 4 MOST LAMENTABLE FAILURE, Pes wend coly overwhelm MAG Gan whens wae swnole une one-term pribelple is tue tras oue fe cannot ir about which laws made, people rule the land and if ins sule doing t0 per it the day they eave to the upon are claappo! ited the dent becomes & mere SBgaure! and no more, while as long as they have reason to trust him he remains clothed with the ity and the power he now possesses. - Hastings at this moment found he had just time to catch the Long Branch boat, and he rushed ef with a friend, who was much Tess cout us than himself about facing the perils of the Outer CINCINNATI JOURNALISTS ON THE SUBJECT. OINCINNATI, August 11, 1873. ‘The discussion of the subject of Cwsarism in the columns of the HERALD has created considerable sensation not only in this city but throughout the State, which just now occupies a peculiar attitude im the political world. In a word, Ohio begins to feel her oats, and is ready to kick before consent- ing to be ridden, Her people, as may be seen from the third party movement in this city and in Co- Iumbus, have taken the initiative in national Politics for results im 1876, and politicians of both the old parties and those who from prudential motives ignored both the last two years begin to trim their sails for the exciting race to be commenced here this Fall and continued until the great national centennial, But tuis is not my ob- Jective at present. I wish to give tne HARALD the Fesult of a little vigorous interviewing among some ofour prominent men, whose opinions, written or expreased from the rostrum, have weight with the People, on the subject of Cxsarism. as a reporter ‘of the LiERALD, I was courteously received by the editors, whose time I knew to be too valuable for a@ny protracted conversation upon any subject not Of business interest to them, Views of Mr. Murat Halstead, of the ° Cincinnati Commercial, Tealled first upon the editor of the Commercial, Mr, Murat Halstead, who comprehended my inis- sion in & moment, and without paying much at- tention to the questions intended to draw hii out. went on ranning over the pile of manuscripts un his desk and spoke as follows:— “Ah, yes. Tie HeraLp is making something of @ sensation about Ciesarism, but the treubie With Cwsarism is that there 18 no Owsar, It takes~a man of genus and energy to make a Cesar; and such men are not plenty. Ben Butler had been u great military success ne might have become @ Cwsar; but he had none, aud had no.mili- tary laculty, 50 he is no Cwsar. The fact is, we got through our war without developing a Cxsar or any remarkable genius on either side,” RALD . CORRESPONDENT—You don’t seem to ‘think thatGetieral Grant is much of a Caesar, then ? Mr. HALSTEAD—NO, sir, I do not; 1 don’t think he knows enough fo be a Cesar either. H&RALD CORRESPONDENT—What do you think of his third term prospect ? Mr. HALSTEAD—Very little prospect he has, I believe, He can’t get the nomination from his own party, and he wiil find it out in good time and draw off in favor of Phil Sheridan, wuo will be the Military candidate. HERALD CORRESPONDENT—You believe this? Mr. HALSTEAD--Yes, sir, 1 do. Tue democratic party can elect him by aduering to its old organ- ization. Blame and Morton are the civil aspirants, but neither will be able to make it, Tue very pest man to beat the administration candidate, proba- bly, is the man who made Grant but didn’t stay at home to take care of bim—the Parisian, Washburn, HERALD CORRESPONDENT—Let me ask why you think Grant's party will not renominate nim? Mr. HALsTeap.—Graut’s conduct since his election has disgusted the leading men of the perty—I mean the ambitious and leading men, Wusun aad Noyes, for instance, who went up and down the country howling and tearing their throats out for him, are bitterly disappointed at GRANI’S OBTUSENESS AND INDIFFERENCY im not seeing that to their almost superhuman eiforts and not hs own speciul merits, was he in- debted ior the success of his second candidacy. Grant believed that his re-election was due to the migity magic of his name, and bis cold egotism has deeply wounded the ieeltugs of his weriaest party friends, As 1 said, it 1s doubtiul if the civil aspi- rants go through, but they will have the pleasure ofelecting the Lieutenant General, for Grant un- qoubtedly will have the power to name his succes- gor. Good day, sir.” Views of Mr. Richard Smith, Cincinnati Gazette, I found the editor of the Gazette engaged pretty much as Mr. Halstead was and equally obliging. Mr. Smith had read the HsRaLD’s articles on Cesarism, ana spoke right 10 the point as soon as the suvject was named. He said:— “I really don’t think the people are taking much interest in it, because they see no danger tobe appreiended, I don’s think anybody expects General Grant to be nominated for a third term, and | have reason to know that he himself neither expects nor desires it. With rejerence to a con stututional amendment limiting to one term, I don’t see any necessity jor it. There has never been tn the history of our country a case in which it.would have been desirabie, but there have been instances when it would have been the very reverse, asin 1864, when Mr. Lincoln wasrenominated. We can all look back now and sec that such a restriction ‘wouid have been a calamity, and such a combina- tion of circumstances may occur again. I believe in letting the people alone, for as this is a govern- ment of the people for the people I believe if let alone they will not often go astray, and that they can be trusted, A man serving as President of the United States has to make A VERY GOOD PRESIDENT TO BE TALKED OF even by the people for renomination, and if he fills the office so acceptably tor one term as to be popu: lar jor renomination I see no good reason why he should not be eligible and the people be free to re- elect him.” HERALD CORRESPONDENT—But does not a con- tinuance in office enable the President to wield a potent power in the federal patronage? Mr. SMITH—I think not. As far as my observa- tion goes, when such an attempt is made against public sentiment it always becomes an element of weakness instead of strength. The charge wa: made in 1872 that the federal office-holders reno! nated Grant. Now, I think, there never was a case in which the voice of the people was more clearly apparent than in that year. Grant was re- pominaied by the people independent of the politi- cians or office-holders. The thing was FIXED-IN THE POPULAR MIND long before the National Convention, and was Jargely due to the fact that the opponents of Grant siandered him most outrageously. CORRESPONDENT—What do you think of Grant's chance jor a third term? Mr. SMiTH—Weill, I think General Grant stands as much of a chance for a third term nomination as of being struck by lightning. Now you have all I ¥ave to say on the subject. CHICAGO JOURNALISTS ON THE SUBJECT. —-——— Curcaco, August 11, 1873, In obedience to a lightning flasn from the HERALD Office your correspondent sallied into the broad Nicoison-paved highways of this grand new city, and scaled the stairways of divers and@ sundry of its magnificent buildings to learn what ceriain Of its teading men thought of the possibility of a third term for Grant, and how they regarded the HERALp’s discussion of the movement to se- cure this unprecedented honor. The result is given. Views of Mr. Wilson F. Storey, of the Chicago Times. Mr. Storey is a person of much renown, locally, a8 much Jor his eccentricity and combativeness as from his undoubted ability as a newspaper conductor. He came originally from Detroit, which was too small to hold him, and seizing the helm of the 7imes, in this city, contrived to make that journal so anti- governmental in time, during the war days, that General Burnside, then in command of this distric ordered the paper to be suppressed. This produc: tremendous commotion, which finally resulted in partial backdown on the partof the General, and ever since the dimes has been the sauciest sheet west of the Hudson. It spares nobody and champions nothing save itself, It used to be fiercely democratic; but at Present Mr. sights that political element and his organ en- ignores its formet, poulcy, In the late Pres- dential campaign tie had for its policy “anything to beat Greeley,” and for this reason, of the Mot irom aby love of General Gran’ cause ot the'iat ter, “ a . espoused the ir. Storey is not @ very good subject for an in- terview; but the HERALD correspondent reso! safe Sword or twoout of him ange Tied and ect in view, proceeded to the hendvomt oes corner of Washington street and the fourth Fifth on of ee bud. ecting & mass of ie veteran editor is about Monten uti oad ene n of ailver-| ard ani dark and eyebrows, waien ive ct somewhat si to that asci aid Bell the Cat,” by Scott, im “Mar- mion.” Ord! this peculiar person never lifts his eyes trom his work after the first glance atthe intrnder. The Name of the HRRALD, bowever, had an enlivening effect upon him. He sald:— “CARSARISM You must be aware of the . He him an as pe ! ‘sentiments of the | Boneral Grant may ry to do in no. than Mr. Bennett or Grant him- more s T cannot, pretend to enlighten you on his ‘This said, in @ cold-blooded sort of way, the man his great dark eyes on the mana- script before him, and your corr indent, not to disturb the attention of the newspaper autocrat, tly retired, but did not leave the Times Views of Mr, Andre Matteson, of the Chicago Trib Your correspondent made his way to the den of Mr, Andre Matteson, the political writer, a gen- tleman who’ has acquired the reputation of hay- ing his pen dipped in wormwood.) He is consti- tutionally severe, even bitter, and is never #0 happy ag when writi prominent politician. vacalawagt in &@ favorite epithet with him, and “scoundrel” ts not disdained on fitting occasions, He 18, undoubtedly, » slisrp' man, aDd: Bis appearance so bespeaks bin, Mr. Matteson hag reached his first halfcentury. He and keen eyes, which appear to fe Was not BO reticent an stated r has tron gray look you cjean ugh. was his obief, When’ your correspondent his mission Mr, Matteson eaid:— don’s it). 8, Grant. him: boyy Frentaent athird term. He rather state this satay indi ion. Nob rep- Bi 5 resents the Times but Mr. Storey. it the politicians who swarm around atm start to ran Gsant again, Mie'daye i they can elect htt become dlegus Vi funt in the event oehle here, again? © reg on KT ay ‘would 43, nit iat just now appears to be that thousands of good citizens don’t: care Soot or bad, and. are. con' to let ti alone. Mr, Grant is note 8. @ Napoleon, ba loner re Ly and, no do’ Gin Do-usely, butt 1 dsabe‘wucther by tus tne: next P: penpaice comes around he’! bave ehough ene: or Vitality ieft'to run.” @ shi better than.Horace Greeley would he heen Jor President. : + "GRANP-HAS NO IDEA. He 1s proad 1t, and the country does not care a straw eivher » Old man Greeley had what'he chose tone ; butJ think he was mad | long time before he died. His nomination made him | hes ey ar is ie ey that ca could ever ha an le }asn’t enough imagina- tion Benes quality iMiat tor anh’ insane asslubt! So far a8 @ man Can be called sate Grant 18, when left to himsel!. But history shows us that stupid men can often be used’ by smart oOnés tor polr ends, This may ha Grant; but, let nim have lenty of Horses ands dog or two and he'll be sale’ enoug! Mr. Matteson spoke all this with considerable vivacity, his heels upon a table in front of him and bis hands behind his head, Views of Ma Horace White, of the Chi- cago Tribune. | Your correspondent next invaded the Chicago Tribune building, @ handsome but rather gloomy structure, situated on the corner of Dearborn and Madison streets. He accepted the courtesy of an elevator to the skylight; for the editor-in-chfef, Mr. Horace White, has high notions,;in more senses than one, and keeps his sanctum in the fifth story of the Tribune structure. Mr, White isa native of Wisconsin, and is still, comparatively speaking, a young man. He fs pale, thin, and of bilious tem- perament; his hair is black, and’ his beard, which is rather thin, partakes of the same sombre hue, He has handsome,.shining eyes, black as beetles, and a low voice, His, manner, unlke that of Mr. Storey, is very gentle, and he always talks pleas, antly to visitors. He greeted the representative ol the HERALD with more than ordinary cordiality, but said, when he was interrupted :— “You are after an interview for the HERALD. Well, I don’t like to state my opinions outside of the Tribune editoriais, where wy 1deas upon Cwsar- ism are pretty broadiy dened, I hardly think it would be delicate in meé to come out personally as regards General Grant. 1 Lave my suspicions; nay, my convictions relutive to this third term busi- ness—but 1 sorgot; I won't be interviewed, but have pleasure in reierring the HERALD to the editoriai calamns of the 77 » Which are much at its service,” The correspondent retired and consulted the files, and if the Tribune's ideas on the subject are valuable they will be gleaned from the ioliowing extracts trom Its editorial columns :— AN OPINION) AS 13 AN OPINION. It General Grant entertains a belict or a hope that he may be renominated or re-elected his present admiuis- tration will be less in tue interests of the people thau in the inerests of the politicians. ‘Ihe political bondage, which General Grant ip pocorn suficiently, will be tightened, and his ambition will be added to thé other intucuces whieh are caiculated to render his present term detrimental to the political weifare of the country. Henry \lay clearly expressed the dangers that beset the edminisiration ot a President during the first term, when his thoughts aud exertions are occupied in securing his re-election, The same is true of @ second term in which the incumbent cherishes a similar ambition. The proposition which ‘was introduced in the last Congress to ami nd the constl- tution so as to limit the incuinbency of the Presidential chair to ome term may be revived in the next Congress with addiuonal force on account ot General Grant's pos- sible ambition tor renomination. Ii it were passed it would undoubtedly contribute materially to the tairness and usciuiness of te present administration, an eral Grant may best allay public apprehension by giving it his hearty and active support. A RETROSPECTIVE VIEW. An extract from a later editortal is given:— When Gencral Grant lett the army entered upon nego- tiations ior the fresidency During the last campaign there was an account of a consultation that was held at ington betore General Grant consented to accept the first nomination, in which General Kawlins acted for General Grant and Mr. Forney for the party. then represented, according to the story, th Grant could not afford to give up_a lite osition ax General of the United States Arm, iy. With a jarge salary, to accept the oflice of President for one General Grant was then that his period of Presiden- tial service should’ not be limited to eight years, should years, nor it he be re-elected for a third term at the ve: term, or even for two terms. assured, it is said, that ry least. Whether this story is true or not. it has a certain verisimiltude, heightened by the circumstance that the same line of argument was pursned to impress upon the people the justice ot electing General Graut for a second term. It may be that the doubling of his salary was inten !ed to discount his option on the third term, ashe wlil now receive precisely the same sum of ioney during his second term as he would have received under the old rate of pay in the two terms which had been promised to him. The eilect of the increase, however, is likely to be just the reverse ot what it was intended to be, so far as General Grant 1s. concerned, If he had ‘a mortgage on two more terms at $2 a year, he is not the sort of man to give @ ‘release deed, i he can heip it, when double that amount isto be had by holding’on to it. The predicted nomination of General Grant tor a third term is natural, therefore, because It has a commercial aspect. It is also natural ‘because he 4s, probably, the best living embodiment of the remain- ing principles of his party. | He is, its ilitest representa tive. He is conspicuously identied wiih all the acts, motives and purposes of the organization. He is the champion salary-grabber. He grabbed more than any- body else, “He belleved in the grab, lovbied for the grab, signed the grab-bill and 1s now engaged in pocketing the grab. The grab of the Congressman is only $2,300 a year the grab of the President is $25,000 a year, or just ten times that amount. ‘The fitness’ of Géneral Grant for the Presidential nomination of the republican party is, therefore, ten times greater than that of any Congressional grabber. General Granvs claims to & renomination were also increased when he beame the apotogist of the Credit Mobiiier Congressmen. He depre- cated the invesiigation. Nothmg could come. of it, he said, but “blackening the character of some of our best men,” and damaging the party according! hen Mr. Colfax retired irom his joint debate wi 4 Ames, and with Nesbiv’s money in_his pocket, he immediately ‘ot a ceriificate of good character from ‘the White House. ir, Bingham had veen. ienounced by his constituents for his operations in Credit Mobilier and his complicity in the buck-pay grab. and General Grant at once ap- jointed him Minister to Japan. General Butler ad made = himselt conspicuous as the attorne: ot the Credit Mobilier Conzressmen, and_ le the advance guard in the fight tor back’ pay. ‘There- upon General Grant espoused his side as candidate for Governor of Massachusetis, and ix now filling up the federal offices in that State in Butler's interest. General Grant’s peculiar fituess for the republican nomination does not stop here. He is the chief support of the bogus Kellogg government in Louisiana. He sustained Durell, and telegraphed General £mory to hold his troops in readiness to enforce the fraud att) Sdian se the bayonet. Shall he go unrewarded for standing firmly by the carpet-bacgers? The office-hoiders will robably answer “No!” There is another reason why the office- holders will rally about General Grant's standard. He does not believe in civil service reform. Neither do at the partys General Grant retains the weys and the Cramers, and he Appoints the Holdens and the Newmans. This is the kind of men the party want, They are sure of Grant; they could not be so sure of anybody else. iso intimated that the railroad Deopie and the monopolists generally have an abidini faith in Grant, equal to that of the office-holders an BAY managers, and tha: they will throw their influence in his favor. All things considered, it is obvious that Grant is the most fitting representative bkcan party could putin nomination, and eve way likely that, if the pai jeeling the same three years from now that it is to-da: shburne, Butler, Logan ant irants will have t ‘or does General that the ro} it ts in shall be ‘ Messrs. Morton, Conkling, the other Presidential a: his superior claims. a to use = rc a the party, He makes ne speec He Rover vetoes salary bills. ifs be a reduction of pay. After all that he has done and al one al a pi bes ty iat the arty will not show itself ungrateful. The third term Seeliean eat Oot Rooms pemsatons has certainly Views of James W. Sheaha: Chicago Tribune. James W. Sheahan, associate editor of the Chicago Tribune, the bosom friend of the late Senator vouglas, was next encountered: Mr. Sheahan is an old-time democrat, but 1s far from being @ “hard shell” one, He is-an able man, overburdened with modesty. No one can have @ more moderate opinion of James Skeahan’s abii‘ty than that gentleman himself, to all eppear- ance, ¢ntertains, Stili his opinion is courted and | of the Fespectea, for behind his diMdence lurks the sharp pen of a veteran in politics. He did not seem inclined to speak on the Bubject introduced by the HeRALD correspondent, but, after @ little hemtation, remarked :— “I Nave no doubt that General Grant would be rfectly willing to accept the Presidency for the ce of his fre. He’ll stick to it as long as pos- sible, He's that kind of aman. At the same time I don’t think that Grant would resort to any we bogs rey acempliel his He’s much r . Depend uj refuse 10 be & ‘candidate it, the General will never 80 long as his backers re- quire him,’ ‘This was all Mr. Sheanan had to say on the ques- tion of Crsariam. Views of Mr. David Blakeley, of the Chicago Evening Post. Mr, David Blakeley, the genia) and talented editor- in-chie! qf jhe Evening Post, a live newspaper, popul regarded as a representative republican crea a} Northwest, notwithstanding that the is also in the fleld, was approached upem@helsubject. Hé saw no occasion whatever for alarm,|.(‘Ihere is no evidence.” said he, “that ther President Grant or his friends desire 9 thira rm. On the contrary, every evidence pointe to ‘the fact that the President wishes to make his erm memorable and then retire upon his’ ell-earned honors. A significant evidence of this 16 that Senator Morton, of Indiana, well known as an. t the President, is uring & Uiitiaing Pentdenis nehgiie ldPmere tenn soe hoe py oer a mat which General Grant is under- be sueli ah Ocourrence transpire, however, as Siecperpiecnon of General Grant, Mr, Blakely is of opinton that his third term would prove more acce! ine pote mors eases his tia ay Sens eas prove more able than his additions? exparien 4 of ce. And 80 far-as the charge se concerned, he thinks the Lem “Omsariem” a elign' Aumption weve aks, Wea renders the’ pre- yrews ‘or Mr. 6. H. Dennett, of the 1 ‘Chicagé Evening Post. ‘Then the HxRaLD correspondent ran against ©. Dennett, @ yeteran journalist, now. writing . Hagar eee wi de 18-8 hoary cynic, whose h in’ politicians is quite as {nflntesimal as his “phe Herat,” said per man, “is the most in- wesarism talk, hope there’s something in it. I Grant to.:hoid out where he is until gathered faheaas Re that care a maravedi for the , but I don’ it to see any more Presiden- jat elections, and if they can be made an end of in way why glory to Grant!” VIRGINIA JOURNALISTS ‘ON THE SUBJECT. Sp ‘ SRidwMoND, Va., August 11; 1878, Since Colonel Jonn 8. Mosby announced ‘his in- tention to take the, stump in favor of General Grant, for a third term inthe next Presidential Ganvass, which was followed by @ series of leading articles in the HERALD on the subject of Ciesarism, ana, ‘subsequently, by @ discussion embracing Dearly the entire prers of the country, that has been a topic of the most serious national consider- ation. Here in the South, however, while it 1s generally discussed, there is an apparent apathy as to the result, which has at stake the destiny of the Republic, that is both painful and alarming, when wetake Into consideration the fact that a majority of these same Southern States were among the original thirteen colonies that first declared for American liberty and independence. At the same time it is equally apparent that this discussion of Cresarism inthe press is producing a powerful impression on the Southern mind. The quiet acquiescence of the administration press in the forcing by |) THE POWER OF THE BAYONET the Kehogg government upon the people of Louisiana; the general indifference and apathy of the people of the North ana West in regard to what is universally considered and denounced . by Southern men as wholly unwarranted execurive usurpation, lend the force of conviction to these notes of alarm, Coupled with this feeling ts that of utter helplessness in the South if such a thing as resistance to the march of despotism were ever contemplated; and there can be no question as to the honesty of the opinion I constantly hear re- peated—Grant is more thoroughly and completely master of the situation than Louis Napoleon was when, in a single night, he turned the French Re- public into an Empire, and that Grant’s renomina- tien, election and his perpetuation in office are mere questions to be decided by himself. Views of Mr. Jam: Cowardin, of the Richmond Dispatch, To-day I had a conversation on this subject with James A, Cowardin, the senior editor of the Dis- patch, of this city, and now the father of Virginia journalism. “What is your opinion of the newspaper discus- sion of ‘Cmsarism?’ ”’ I asked the editor, Eprror—Wel, sir, [have not paid a great deal of attention to the discussion in the newspapers, because it interests me very little. I have seen numerous articles on the subject without reading them, but lam satisfied that General Grant, if he chooses, can be elected the next President; or if he toes not wish to go to the trouble of an elcotion he can declare his purpose to hold on to the office by stationing the army of the United States in the leading cities of the country, ostensibly TO PRESERVE THE PEACE, the same as he did in the Southern States while re- construction was going on, CORRESPONDENT—Do you suppose that the people of the North and West would tamely submit to such an outrage upon their rights and liberties as a conversion of a free government into a despotism? Epiron—The people of the North and West seem to have lost all their love for and devotion to their State governments. They have been so long used to going to Washington and looking to W: ington for everything they crave in the shape of land donations, contracts, appropriations and “Jobs,” that they have sunk the individuality of their States, which are now little more inthe Union than a township is in acounty, or than Henrico county is in the State of Virginia. CORRESPONDENT—But would they not resist any encroachment upon their republican government, central though it be? EpiroR—No, sir; Ihardly believe they would, and if they did what would be the use, in the face of Grant’s power through his SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND OFFICE-HOLDERS andthe army and the navy, all of which, from their interests and organizations, would be active supporters of a centralized despotism—an Empire. And what would be the difference? Even now we have all the tyranny and despotism of an Empire we hee, outward jorms and semblance of a public. CORRESPONDENT—How would the Southern people r ‘da third term for General Grant, or, as it is now understood, the approach to Cxsarism? Eprton—With the most periect indifference. They would merely be “lookers-on in Venice.” Tney have been so long under the rule of the baye- net; have had negro rule so ruthlessly and out- rageously fastened upon them; they have been so snubbed and rebuffed at Washington, when gen- tlemen of respectability, intelligence and influence have demeaned themseives by going therein quest of simpie justice, and they have mad go little sym- pathy, without any effort to redress their wrongs irom the people of the North and West, that they have ceased to take even a passing interest in the national government, 5 © KING, LIVE Spr mt 1ORRESPONDENT—You gre under the impressio: then, that tne people of the Southern States would not resist if General Grant was ambitious enough to wear a kingly crown on the throne of the United States at Washington Epiror—Resist, sit! Far from it, I rather be- leve they would hail it as & partial move towards their emancipation from some of the wrongs by which they are now oppressed. Grant wouid then be more independent, and would not be so much under the control of the unprineipled party lead- ers Slenecs he is now surrounded. He would then be free to act according to the dictates of his own conscience, and if he &@ man of any principle at all, or with any sense of right and. Justice, t think that we of the South would be rather bene- fited by the change. As it is, our condition ig most deplorable. Look, sir, at the condition ef poor South Carolina, where the best, most retined, cui- pices and bravest of our own race are in a atate governmental vassal to the bru t negro; where they are swindled, robbe: wind Ge graded. Ah, sir, said the editor, With a good deal Of feeling in his voice, THE WRONGS OF POOR SOUTH CAROLINA RANKLE TO-DAY IN OUR HEARTS, We can never forget them, are our children at uish ever iorget them. Look, too, Lor - eissip) eS orth Carolina and other Sta! it ask, “How in Heaven's name can we of the South be expected to take an interest in the preserva- tdom OF & government that has not but has fostered and nurtured the foul taxceunoecs of our oppression?’ think ComexsPonpkNT—Then you thin! hope from either Nerth of South if Grant used ‘nis ge r to prolong his administration or make an ire out of the Republic’ submission 10: me ronest outages and been wil i ing slaves to Beat woverument the world ever saw” will bow before him and cry, “© King, liv. forms concladed my interview with the editor of 8 e editor o! the Dispaich, and, thanking him, I took my leave, ‘ett, of the Rich- mond EngSirer, I next turned my attention to the Enqutrer office, ‘where I found Mr. A. P. Bennett, one of its editors, who conducted that democratic journal with singular ability through the entire Greeley and who is admitted to-day to be ome of the first, if not perhaps the ablest and most experienced journaust in Vir- ginia, Mr. Bennett is a Pennsyivanian by birth; but his entire life time, from infancy almost, has been passed in the South, to which he is strongly attached by early associations, cherished memories and the binding ties of friendship. His views I found to be more moderate than those of the editor of ‘the Dispatch, though somewhat in the same ‘8 I began abruptly by asking:— “Have you read the articles upon Cesarism which have recentiy supeaten in the HERALD?” Mr. BenneTt—the first series I read, but not very carefuily. The more recent I have not read. CORRESPONDENT—What are your ideas upon the subjéct (rom 4 Soutiiern standpoint? , BENNET!—Well, to teli the truth, I look upon the whole thing as 4 MATTER OF MERE BOSH. It will dofor @ nine days’ sensation in dull times; but there is really nothing in it. The American people, who, aiter all, shape and control the des- tiutes Of the country, let the politicians hew them how.they may, have no idea of adopting or toler- ating Owsarism or despotism in any iorm, They wi ridicule any attempt of the kind out of ex- istence very promptly. Its discussion can do no harm, however, because tt is so preposterous that notpnseo p of sense will ever consider it seriously, or in aby other inl than as one of the pipaalng abstractions or absurdities indulged in by the press for the want of a more lively and interesting topic, CORRESPONDENT—But do you not think there is 80) in this question of Grant's third term? Yt. an oh phere. is, Of course, some- thing in it; and t! heré may A GREAT DEAL IN IT, and I think the HERALD has done much to give it shape and prominence. But the “third term” and Crsarism are very diferent matters—widely dis- Unct, Grant or any other President might be re- elected for a third or fourth or filth term, or we might.continue to elect him as long as he lived, but that would not change the form or nature of the ronment or destroy the liberties of the peop! It is & matter resting wholly with the people. if they wish to retam any President in power they have the right to do it and will do it, CORRESPONDENT—How, then, do A ae dispose of thattime-honored precedent established by Wash- ington, the Father of his Country? fir JENNEIT—The country i very differently situated now irom what it was in the days of Washington or Jefferson. Then the population Was not sO great as that of the State of New York at present. ‘Ie nation was poor in purse and sunk in debt, had no prestige abroad and not a reat deal of respect at home. It had just come forth from a long war which bad destroyed as it were ali of the past, and which le(t very little of romise for the future. ‘To be President at that ime was an honor but little more in advance of THE GOVERNORSHIP OF NEW JERSEY NOW, and it was not to be wondered at that Washington rew tired of a position in which he got little else hanabuse, He had many enemies, and he was not much better proof against attack than Mr. Greeley, Indeed he was very sensitive, and was, no doubt heartily glad of any opportunity to retire into private life, to get rid of the petty annoyances and discomforts of a rather petty and thankless office. the country been as grand then a4 now, and the same opportunity been offered him that it is said was then offered him I believe Washington would have accepted the place as often ag the people desired. But age and the cares of ofice, and the wear and tear o! a long and active life weighed him down, and he sought retirement rather than the estavlishment of a precedent to BIND HIS SUCCESSORS, If such was his idea why were not the judiciary ana the legislative departments, the army and the navy, the governors of States, ang even down to the clerks of Courts, controlled vy¥ the same “two term” or eight year policy? There 1s nothing what- ever in this precedent. Its observance or violation would ameunt to the same thing so long as the pes of impeachinent is retained by Congress, to e exercised at uny time, and by the people, to be brought into use certainly every four years, it 18 of no consequence whether the same man be chosen jor ONE TERM OR FOR A DOZEN TERMS, The hberties of the people will never be over- thrown in that way. Nor do I believe the liberties of the American people can ever be ovértnrown or endangered in any Way. ‘they are secure in the virtue and intelligence of the minority—that great conservative element in our society which will always be prepared to see that the Republic shalt Buffer no detriment, This may sound a little para- doxical; but it is, nevertheless, the truth, The minority not only controls here, but in every coun- try in the world. Itisa popular fiction that the majority rules, and will do very weil, as Victor Hugo says, for mie peojne but we and the HERALD know better. R. M. I, Hunter und a jew very excellent gentlemen here, who come down to us trom a former generation, proiess to fear, and, I have no doubt, really do fear, THE COMING OF AN EMPIRE, but it is because they have no longer a kand in controlling or a voice in directing the helin of the ship of state. They have been removed from com. mand, and it is but naturai they should say and think that everything is going to destruction. But the young men who are on or are coming on the active stage of politics and hope to make their mark have none of these fears, doubts or misgiv- ings. They know the strength of the vessel and have {ull faith in its ability to resist the waves, As for Grant's aspirations, 1don’t think he had any atthe time oi his last election, but I shouldn't wonder if the HERALD’s articles and the excite- ment created by them have illed his head with strange thoughts. In tact, by the interest he seems to take in partisan politics of late, it looks very much as if he were “iixing things” to secure his election in 1876, CoRRESPONDENT—Why do you think so? What could actuate him to do thatr Mr. BenneTt—The glory of CLOSING THE FIRST CENTURY of American independence will not be complete unless it can be supplemented by the still greater glory of OPENING THE SECOND CENTURY. I therefore believe that Grant will not only work for the nomination, but that the party which he Jeads, and which but for him would have no leader, no name and no piace in American politics, already sees that its continued success requires his election then; and, if he hives, HE WILL BE THEIR CANDIDATE— two potent reasons for the third term. 1 COnBePONDIN—But what will tue South say to his’ Mr. BenneTT—The South takes very littie in- terest in national politics and will take still less until its bes people are restored to afull participa- tion in the benetites and “spoils of the govern- ment.” We are now privately and publicly plundered and get no share of the plunder, Our young men are refused places in the army, navy and civil services and have no tie to bind them in love or allegiance to the government, and our people feel that they are strangers in the land of their fathers. One orm of government or one President ts just as good for them as another, #0 long as they are allowed no part or participation in it, Therefore, they care not if Grant is made President for life, or DICTATOR OR CAESAR OR EMPEROR, and if he would but insure them against negro rule they would riniogy vote for him as perpetual President, The South ts completely vroken in spirit and like one without hope. The future, too, seems to promise nothing, and thereiore it would gladly welcome what is styled imperialism as a means of escape from radicalism, CORRBSPONDENT—What do you think would reconcile the people of the South to the govern- Pe ee restore the “‘old time” feeling im these tates Mr. BENNETT—It is avery simple matter. Give them a government at Washington that will treat them kindly and restore them to THEIR FORMER PROUD POSITION in the Union; that will replace their sons in the positions to which they are entitied in the army and navy and tn the general service, and appoint its officers from among their own best people, instead of irom among the most degrade elements of ny AR will take counsel of the real people of the Southern States instead of tue negroes and their designing leaders; tuat will, 1u @ word, recognize the true worth and manhood of the South, and choose ite supporters from among the leaders of Southern society, and, my word for it, in less than a year the whole jand from the Potomac to the Rio Grande, would ring with shouts for the restored Union, and there would not be an enemy to Grant's administra- tion among the Conservative or democratic people of this entire section. Restore them, and you will bind them to the government and to the country as with hooxs of steel. And if Grant does this during the coming three years the South Will do all in its power to RETAIN HIM FOR ANOTHER TER} despite the Prosetens of Washington and without article of fear as to the Cesaric consequences of nis re-election, This concluded my interview with Mr. Bennett, and, apologizing for the intrusion and thanking him for his kindness, I withdrew. ESSEX COUNTY (W. J.) FREEHOLDERS, The Way the Money Goes, Yesterday the Board of Chosen Freeholders of Essex county met in Newark, and paid out a num- ber of bills, The engineer of the Board reported that the bridge across the Passaic connecting Har- rison with Newark would last only about a year, after which a new one would re to be built. The, Joint committee of Essex and Bergen count failed to secure a purchase of the North Bri Belleville. The; agreed to $3,000 for it; but iy Fetteed 1 tke me res to secure ion of it how, In to wes indulged in regardiug ‘the ‘paitdinw fs new one. Ov fe iee “tho snaitd dollire ‘wah otha the Piotr) the preseas me | u } / ‘YORE HERALD. FRIDAY. AUGUST 15. 1873—WITH SUPPLEMEN'r. THE VOYAGE OF THE ARNDT. Arrival of the Stettin Steamship at Her Dock Yesterday—How the Passengers Enjoyed the Trip—Thriving on Bread, Bacon, Butter and Beer—Dancing on Deck—History ofthe Voyage. ‘The safe arrival of the Stettin steamship Ernst Moritz Arndt in this port on Wednesday evening, atter being forty-one days at sea, brought unex- pected gladness to the hearts of hundreds and thousands of human breasts. She carried 436 pas- sengers, and every one of these possessed his own circle of intimate friends, both in the New World and the Old, who were waiting with breathless anxiety the first gleam of hopeful tl- dings from the long-missed vessel. And although their joy was great when other vessels reported her condition at sea they did net suffer their delight to conquer their suspense until her anchorage off Sandy Mook became a certainty. The agents of the line telegraphed to all parts of the country, where intelligence of the Arndt was looked for, that all on board were weil. Nearly all the passengers, therefore, spent the night of Wednesday on board. There were but three Americans among the cabin passengers, and one of these, Mr. George Gilbert, of Brooklyn, had so many FRIENDS LONG LOST TO VIEW impatient for his arrival that he went ashore and hastened to his home. Yesterday afternoon the steamship was towed to her dock at Hoboken, when her commander, Captain Felberg, gave sub- stantially the following ACCOUNT OF THE VOYAGE, We left Stettin on the 3d of July, Copenhagen on the 4th, and having called at Havre on the 8th, proceeded on our journey westward, all well. For the first few days we ex- perienced rough weather. On the sixth day out the weather was moderate, At four o’clock on the afternoon of that day (July 14) I was sitting near the stern of the vessel, when I heard a sud- den and terribie oscillation of the machinery. The shaft must have made a couple of hundred revolu- tions in a few seconds, but the engineer speedily shut off the steam. I soon disvoved that the entire borew had broken off from the socket and was car- ried into the sea. We were now 1,750 miles from New York, had plenty of provisions on board, the vessel was in a seaworthy condition and we determined to proceed under sail. I got the carpenters to make extra sail yards to help us along and f told all the passengers that they might expect an unusually long voyage. Next day we made eighty-five miles. A Bremen steamer passed us by. Then the Austrian bark Eos came across us. Doctor Dohrn, one of our_ directors, and the purser went on board of her. Her captain gave us @ large quantity of provisions. HE WAS A REGULAR PRINCE, and deserves credit for his kindness to us; his name 1s Petrozini and his vessel has arrived here some hours ahead of us. On the 18th and 19th the wind blew heavily irom W. N. W. and we encoun- tered several squalls, On the 20th a heavy storm came upon us, the ship behaving well, Aftertwo days thick fogs beset us. INHUMANITY AT SEA, We passed a brig-rigged steamer on the 22d in latitute 46, longitude 44, and hoisted signais of dis- tress, but she paid no notice to us and sailed out of sight, eastward bound. Next day we passed the bark Uscar II, and obtained from her another load of provisions, Our fresh provisions ran short, but, of course, we had plenty of salt pork and beef and some canned mets on board. As we neared Banks of Newioundiand we had dense fogs and adverse winds or calms. Four steamers passed us in that vicinity, and we signalied to them by firing guns; but they, too, pdssed heedlessly on like the other one, not know- ing but that we might have famine on board. We were, happily, in no existing need of help, but we wished to provide against even the most improba- bie contingencies, On the 29th and 30th, while oif the Banks, we fell in with the fishing schooner Josephine, from which we obtained TWO THOUSAND POUNDS OF FRESH COD. Thence the weather was very foggy until we reached Nantucket Shoals. Some days we could mnake only fifty or sixty miles; there were two days when we made only thirty-five, and two more on which we advanced only sixteen, having “to course”? all the while, and often lying still without a breeze. A_ further instalment of provisions was furnished us by the polite Captain of the bark Sabine, which we saw onthe 6thinst. On the 9th we passed a Small Boston steamer and two fishing schooners, Next morning it was a dead calm. Several inches Of grass flourished on the bottom of the ship, so I availed myself of this calm to have it scraped off. Then the French steamer Ville du Havre sighted us, and the parties on board of her treated us in a manner that ought never to be forgotten. NOBLE-HEARTED CAPTAIN AND PASSENGERS. the Captain Surmont gave us an abundant supply of Sree we wanted and woulu not agree The ladies on board his steamer inquired diligently concerning the wants of the women and culdren, and offered relief, which, however, was notneeded. They treated us obi. Far different wasthe con- duct of the Dutch Captain Deddes, of tre Maas, that we met afterwards, His treatment was not extremely polite, and he refused to tow us into port for a fixed sum of money. He waited the price to be arranged by the companieg so that our company would be required to pay an exorbitant amount as salvage. Had we been in damer, how- ever, I would be compelled to have her tewed in at any cost. The captain charged us $17 ig a cheese andasmall tub of butter, But we surmounted every obstacle and anchored safe on Wednesday. The passengers show by their looks how they have been treated. When the fresh provisions rap short we gave beer to the men and wine to the yomen and children, The cabin passengers have very kindly presented me with the following testimonial :— We,the passengers of the first and second cabins on the steamship Ernst Moritz Arndt, are compelled py the change of circumstances on board our ship during the voyage to thank Captain Felberg, Purse) Brehmer and Doctor Dohrn sor their great care in regard to the inan- agement of the ship and the comforts and provisions alforded to the passengers, especially siice the Lith of July, when we lost our screw ; also to all the officers of the vessel for the kind and generous treatment which ‘we have received during the voyage we tender our sin- cere thanks, and express only one wish, that they may have sue: nd prosperity in future times. Signed by all the cabin passengers. Several passengers stated to the HERALD re- porter that they had never seen fellow passengers enjoy a trip better. In the saloon there were dances and concerts frequently, there being a piano there. There was a band of Italian musi- clans in the steerage, and dancing was the order of the dayon the forward deck. The captain was untiring in his labors. They did not believe jie had slept a single night since the loss of the propeller. All the officers and crew worked Well under his orders. There were no complaints of insufficient supplies of food—the only thing that troubled those onboard was the consciousness of burning anxiety on the part of triends on land, Captain Felberg is @ graduate of a German naval college and an ac- complished seaman, as his management of the Arndt has shown. His wife, a charming lady, ac- companied him on this trip jor the first time, and has thus been spared much anxiety for her hus- band’s safety. A steerage passenger provoked laughter yester- day by stating that every one got plenty of beer, but he gravely added that no one was allowed to make a hog of himself. In one day the Arndt made 180 miles; her greatest hourly speed was ten knots. AH the veasels of the line are similariv rigged, but itis hoped that no more accidents will occur on their trips, and 11 they do occur that they may rove ne more disastrous than that which has Beratien the Arndt. ARMED PROCESSIONISTS- pinnate ieceaetoe sel Decides that Police Commissioners Have No Power to Prevent Armed Processions. Shortly after the Lion Park riot the Police Com- missioners resolved to allow no more armed pro- cessions in the streets or gardens of the city, except the Nationa! Guard. The question of the power of the Commissioners to enforce this rule being raised, it was referred to the Corporation Counsel for opinion, and as he reported that they had no jurisdiction in the case it was yesterday resolved to reconsider the lormer resoiution by adopting the toilowing:— Resolved, That the Superintendent be directed to fur- nish such éscort to the Knights Templars and the Legion of St, Patrick as shall be necessary to preserve erder and protect persons and property. The Knights Templars and the Legion of St. Patrick forcea the mater to an issue by question- ing the right of the Commissioners; otherwise tt might have remained a rule The Legion of St, Patrick will go oa their picnic to-day, armed and accompanied by & force of police to protect the peace. The following is the route of the procession :— The Legion wi assemble at Military Hall, No. 193 Bowery, and, ater torm in line, will maxch through by jowery to Kighth street, to Stuyve- sant place,through Eleventh street to First ave- nue to Twenty-second street to Second avenue, and thredgh Thirty-iourth street to Third avenue, = ae fd Be cars eget street. ie} ro je and march to Jone’ Wood, x Inspectors of Blection. In accordance with section 13 of the rules of 1872 and 1873, which provides that “in the months of August and September of each year the Police Commissioners shall choose and select four per- sons im each election district im the city and of York, under certain conditions as stated in the charter as inspectors of eleetion, the Board appointed Commtssioners Charlick and Gardi- ner to revise the list of candidates anda make se- lections for the Boara to confirm. Vaptain Kipp ee Mr, Hagprouck’s place in tue Kiection CUBA. Tho Spanish Decree for the Rel‘ef of Embargoed Property—Provisions of the Measure and Its Importance to Americans. Havana, August 9, 1873. The question of bienes embargados, or of property sequestered from the insurgents and their sympa- thizers, is one of great interest, and, just at pres- ent, will prove of great importance in the face of the recent decree of the home government. Many American citizens and Cuban exiles are deeply in- terested in this matter. THE DECRER will be published tn a few days in the OMtcial Gazette, and will go into effect so soon as the pre- luminaries of its execution are settled, To preamble, which emanates altogether from the Colonial Minister, commences with a referenc> to inspiration in the principtes of strict legaluty, which forms the basis of democratic creeds, and the Minister’s examination of the important qeestions connected with the insurgent state of a part of the Cuban territory, and which may have given cause to abuse of authority, unbounded excess, grave attacks against the pergonality of citizens, to a more or less degree prejudicial aud, unfortunately, too frequent in the history of all civil contests. The Minister uses further the strong expressions that upon taking charge of his portfolio he founaa state of, affairs in his opinion altogether anomalous, & great amount of property wrested from the original owners by a mere guber natorial proceeding anda delivere’ to an admin- istration irregularly formed and acting in the name of the government, with notable loss in the )ro. ducts, with injury to the families who derived their support from their property and with prejudice to the public welfare, .influenced by the want of regularity and order and absence of individual interest in the management and improvement of the property. That such a state of affairs could ‘vb co-exist with a political system based upon ustice, and would only tend to still further foster hate, to make barren a great part of the rich territory of the island and to increase disturbance and discontent. That the Cuvan insurgents, those who more or less bravely keep up the present bloody and devastating struggle by every means in their power, such indeed require a strong chastise- ment, especially as the government of the Re- public offers to all Spanish citizens sate and effica- cious guarantees of right and order, and means to make known and propagate their political ideas. But not for that consideration should any government be empowered to deprive its citizens who stray from the right path of their means of support and cause fheir families to beg the bread which formerly abounded on their table. That, apart from these considerations, there is not in the laws of nations auy precept or prinetple which authorizes such eXpropriations, nor in good judicial theory is such a proceeding admissable, and not even an exceptional state of war can authorize, under any pretext, the adop- tion of preventive measures of such transcendental importance, and whose effects would be contrary to the purpose even which inspired them. In view ol tiese considerations the Colonial Min- ister, Don Francisco Suier y Capdevila, e- sented on the 12th of July the following project of decree, which the government approved and promulgated in the following words :— DECREE, In view of the reasons manifested by the Colo tal Minister the government of the Republic decree as follows :— Artice 1.—From the date upon which the present de- cree, as published in the Oficial Gazette ot Matrid, shall arrive av the capital of the Island @ Cuba there siiall be dcelared raised all the embargoes on properties of the in- surgents and the disloyalists of that island wi imposed by gubernatorial order in conseque: dec the 20th ot April, 1869, —The properties’ disembargoed by virtue of the article sl Ann. forego be delivered immediate'y to their tatives, without roots than those strictly necessary’ to accredit. the right by which iis return is claimed or fully identity the person- ‘ality of, the claimant, Aur, 3—In order to decide with greater effect and speed the questions which may arise by reason of the foregoing disposition’ the Captain General, the superior Civil Governor of the Island of Cuba, wilt’ immediately proceed to form, under his presidency, a Board (uta), composed of the President of the Audiencia (Supreme Court, as Vice President of the intendeae of Cuba? of the Fiscal of the Audie and th Secretary to the superior polijical gov nt, in ti character of Secretary to the Board, with a ¥0.¢, whic will as clearly and as quickly as possible decide ilpon all claims presented by those concerned, without any other appeal ay regaris the administrative part than that ot taking an appeal before the government of the Republic by the Colonial Ministry. ‘Arr. 4.—The Board of Officers charged by the preceding article with the disembargo and return of property to the insurgents and the disloyalists may cousult, when deemed necessary for a more fit resolution, with the Board of the Treasury Debt, heretofore charged with the administration of the properties enbargoed gadernativeiy: and may demand and obtain from all other dependencies of State the data and anve: considered nccexsary for that purpose. Arr. §.—The Colonial Minister will dictate the neces. sary instructions for the execution of the pre-ent de or will deflaitely approve those drawn up tor the pu by the Board itseli, The Preside PLY MARGALL ‘The Colonial Minister—Suxer ¥ CarpEvita. Dated at Mavutp, July 12, 1373, PUBLIC OPINION OF THE MEASURE, It will be seen that the decree is ample and abso. lute, but I am assured by a person well iuformed from high authorities that the private instrac- owners of legitimate holders or repre requiring, in order to effect it, other iormalities or tions attached to the carrying out of tue decree exact certain and determin condi- tions, As referring to foreigners anit Ameri- can citizens, where the immediate return of em- bargoed property is to be made, this will not be done betore the Spanish-American Claims Com- mission at Washington gives its decisions, as the authorities here have made efforts to lurnigh to their advocate the proois of implication with the insurgents of many of the claimants betore that Commission to justify the embargo of their prop- erty; but if proved innocent by the Commission their property will be returned, and thus avoid the competence of two Courts, one at Washington and the other here. On the other hand, such foreigners or American citizens as have their property embargocd and no legal proois appear against them, and have no claims filed vefore the Commission, will probably be tee in immediate possession of their property ; but hese decisions will be subjected to a new classifi- cation, which is to be made by the Board as constituted in article 3 of the decree. In_ respect to Cubans, I am perfectiy informe that property will onl, be returned to tiose whose guilt of unfidencia (dis- loyalty) is not proven, and who retain their civil rights. Probably in the majority of those em- bargoed this has not been sufficiently justified; but in those cases where sufficient evidence exists and the proois are clear-and positive, the property will remain embargoad. Those whose property has been confiscated in accordance to a sentence by court martial, or for contumacy, will remain fully confiscated, otwithstanding the slight confidence which this new decree has seemed to inspire, it must be ad- mitted that the new Junta, composed of persons somewhat more liberal in their views and pro- fessed republicans, will likely act more in accord- ance with justice. The principal point gained ana the great advantage is, that Zulueta, Alvarez and the entire retinue of personages sepresen ting the irreconcilable oligarchist party, Iwill have nothing to say, nor have anything turther to do with em- bargoes and disembargoes, as the undoubted and unjustified Ph those slave dealers has revented many an act of justice irom being per- formed in regard to the raising of embargoes, but on the contrary has contributed to numerous con- fiscations and misdeeds. It is said that a reactionary manifestation will be made in regard to the decree, but it is yet to be seen whether these persons who have played with the authority of Dulee, Rodas, Crespo, Valmaseda and Ceballos will tind a dif fereat man in General Pieltain, who, it is said, is determined to carry out ail practicable orders that he receives from the republican government that has appointed him, ress has received the decree ‘The Snanish island Very disfavorably, and it is to be expected under the circumstances of the case, and that even La Legalidad, the organ of the Captain Gencral, od- ses it, that the whole decree may remain a dead letter, and no one receive anything unless he “oils” the powers that be. ? ELECTORAL VOICE AND CARLISM, The elections for the new Board of Direction for the ensuing year, at the “Casino Espanol,” passed off last Sunday, in the halis of that institution, very quietly. Some six hundred or eight hundred members were present and voted for the different candidates. Contrary to the general expectation, no speeches were made nor any excitement visible. The proceedings consisted merely of read the Secretary’s report for the ear and the voting. The conservative element jai made a fusion on the purely conservative ticket of various candidates in opposition to the attempts to elect a republican, but no excitement ‘was apparent as the resuit seemed a foregone con- es fic, eg Mgt tes Wht ng ident, and Don icanor Troncoso, Vice Presi The rest of the Board is aiso entirely conserva- tive—the republicans say, Carlists. BUBNED 70 DEATH. An inquest was held at Mount Vernon, West. chester county, yesterday, by Coroner Meeks, on the remains of a child named John Drier, who had been burned almost to @ crisp on the preceding evening. The little fellow, it socests, was ing with some matches, near house parents, ou Fourth avenue, when his clothes be- elapsed Jie aseistance reected hit ine unfort re hate boy waa 60 horribly injured that Ne died td mate boy died great agony shortly afterwards. 4 verdict was rendered accor .