The New York Herald Newspaper, May 6, 1873, Page 7

NE a THE CYTY LOTTERY CRANK. First Turn of the Wheel and Its Results. Mayor Havemeyer’s First Nominations Under the New Charter. DISGUST AND DISMAY. Wames Submitted for Health and Tax Commissioners and Alderman to Fill Vacancy. THE CITY FATHERS “PLAYING OFT.” They Lay on the Table the Nominations and Some of Them Talk Ugly Afterwards. THE SWARM OF OFFICE-SEEKERS Mayor Havemeyer Not Surprised by the Aldermanic Attitude. ‘The excitement which has been fermenting apd seething around the City Hall for the past two weeks culminated yesterday, when it was under- stood that Mayor Havemeyer would decidedly make his long discussed and long waited for appoint- ments. The early morning bronght a crowd of Persons down,to Mayor Havemeyer’s Office, They were met with the unwelcomé news that the Mayor was not in. Momentarily the crowd in- | creased, and in such proportions that only the very distinguished (as that word is understood in local Politics) were admitted to the office at ail, The smaller people, attended by their familiars and tn- timates, spread around the corridors, down the broad steps, into the Park. THE TAG, RAG AND BOBTATL. The regular riff raff congregated still farther out and waited humbly that the next in grade should give them the honor of a nod or the tnexpressible joy of a “shake.” It must be confessed, if truth 1s to prevail, that this crowd, taken all in all, was not a whit better than the old rough and tumble crowds who, in the gilded days of Tammany, did precisely the same Micawberisn work of waiting for forsomething to turn up. Indeed many of the the same veteran faces, just as lean and as hungry, just as anxious and expectant, just as obsequious and as humble, could be recognized in the erowa, while many of their old bosses and leaders, a whit less sleek and bejew- eled, perhaps, than in the old days when they waited upon His Honor Mayor Hall or Mr. William M. Tweed, were now dancing attendance in the antechambers of Mayor Havemeyer. Not only had the class not changed, but in many cases the faces were present, not as bold nor as defiant, but still there. What wonderful evolutions they have since performed, what very small holes they have crawled through, is only known to themselves, Heaven knows; but there they were, as familiar as ever and with the self same wants, What particular object brought certainly forty- “nine out of each fifty of these gentlemen around City Hall yesterday morning must remain forever @ mystery. It was as certain as fate.itself that ‘there was nothing instore for them. But then they knew best. Like the stone which ricochets over the water, an appointment might strike them on the fourth or fifth bound and benefits indirectly accrue to them. Itis the old story of WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS until the smallest man in the crowd probably felt some distant interest in the appointments. Ah! “Appointments” that was the big word in every- boay’s mouth. Who were the coming men? Was Bill this or Tom that to “get a show?’ Was the Mayor going to “shake the old gang” or ‘do the Square thing’ by them? Wasn’t Alder- man xX. “putting up a job” on the ‘whole crowd ? Would the others “drop if the house tambied,” and many other such mysterious quo- tations from a dictionary not, perhaps, as familiar to the general public as to pothouse politicians, all jambied up with such a particular disregard for the Queen’s English and such an utter abhorrence ofplain language that any but 4 strong man’s heart would have quailed before such an avalanche Of slang. They sat on the steps, leaned up against the ‘walls, lounged about listlessly,did alk things but go away. There was an evident determination in all their attitudinizations to see the thing out and to Wait for the Mayor if it took all day. At about twelve o'clock the wagon arrived. The old = =gentieman walked up the corridor with a quick step, only nodding to two or three, and passed into his private office before any one had had a chance to “buttonhole” him, Once in the office the Mayor is as impregnable as in a bastile, and cards fly in like hailstones, with- out even the satisfaction of coming out answered. ‘There were some persons whom the Mayor did not object to see; athong these were Attorney General Barlow. His interview with the Mayor was entirely relating to the matter of legislating Mr. Have- Meyer out of oMce, and some legal talk was in- duiged in. Mr. Thomas C, Stewart also calied, but only remained a few moments. General Cochrane ‘was closeted with his Honor a few moments, The rumor had spread through the crowd that THE MAYOR HAD ARRIVED and there was a genoral rush to. the office to see him. Butat the door they were met and even their cards not sent in. The usher contented him- self with saying, ‘The Mayor is engaged and cannot see you.” This was meaut as a general hint aud ‘Was so undersiood by the crowd, which murmured and pagree but couid do bowling more effective. Repuised, they still entrenched themselves in the corridors leading to the place an imside view of Which was so much desized. There were all kinds of people present—ex-Aldermen, ex-Assemblymen, ex-Coroners, ex-Assistaut Aldermen, ex-deputies of all kinds, gatnblers and loafers, ail chronic office seekers, by the cartivad, the whole representing a very vast amount of former power, but in itself very nugatory in influence at present. They (retted and fumed, perhaps, for but a& moment of their old time popularity or influence, in many of their cases never to come back. The Motley assemblage was comprised of many ele- ments, which mingied in one common misfortune. Now that the Mayor had arrived and would ae- Cidedly not be seen ali the attention was concen- trated on the coming meeting of the Board of Aldermen. It was supposed that Mayor Have- meyer would make all bis appointments in the afternoon and considerable curiosity existed to Know What would be done with the Police Board and that of Charities and Correction. It was thought that at all events in other respects the ap- pointments by the Mayor would be satisfactory, As the resuit shows this expectation was disap- Potted and MATTERS TURNED‘OUT VERY DIFFERENTLY. Toeach gentleman who would come trom the “Mayor’s office the question would be propounded, “‘Wnat about them ap ointments?’ aud all the in- ‘formation that could be elicited was that the jor would have them ready by half-past three o'clock that they would aot be made public before being submitted to the Loard of Aldermen. The fact that Pe Wag a virtue was then ex- emplifed, and the hands of the City Hail clock seemed to move unaccountably siow to the two or three nundred who were waiting about for the a honr to come. But it did come at last, and In filed the Aldermen to thetr seats in the Board. Then thecurtous phenomenon was exemplified of trying to get into a room which by any pos- sibility could not contain more than @ Saree bs be pumber. Then the corridor ci led =with people that it was with great dificulty even the in Aldermen could Derry The report of the meeting itself will found beiow. When the appointments or nomi- gations were made there was a general sigh of re- | thon of Consult! 1 NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, MAY 6, 1873—QUADRUPLE SHEET. men, whom the reporter questionea im a general way, a ABOUT THE NOMINATIONS and ‘the cause of the dissatisfaction, said very hes , do you think we are going to confirm such appointinents asthese? This hissed a man in the place of Alderman ea ink, is an imperti- nence, when you consider that there is at present ‘a bill pending in the Legislature, giving the Alder- men themselves the power of filling vacancies in their midst, Why couldn’t the Mayor wait to see what would become of that bill before he sent in a name to us.” “Do you know anything about Mr. Claussen?’’ “No, he is a novbody—a lager bier brewer. I don’t know that he ever distinguished himself in any- thing in his life. I have nothing to say against the man but that he doesn’t deserve the place. He never did anything for it. The Board won't con- firm him.”? “Who else is the Board dissatisfied with 7” “Well, the sending in of the name of John Wheeler for President of the Board of Tax Com- missioners, Why, when Tweed was giving up his position to Van Nort Wheeler Proposed to let all ‘Tweed’s men remain in, not one vo be disturbed, and that TWEED COULD DICTATE TO DIM what he should do if he would only let him have the place. fle has been crazy for an office for years, and would do anything to get me; he’s not the man to suit us. Luon’t believe the Board could be indueed to confirm him. If the Mayor expects that such appointments as these are going to do us he’s been misled. The fact that Wheeler is a Committee of Seventy man is what has caused his appoint- ment. We want to see men of stamina nomi- nated.” Another Alderman satd:— “The Mayor scems to consider us a set of nin- compoops when he sends us such appointments as these. The Mayor 1s going it strongly, but he won't succeed, We are the creative power; he enly suggests; and we shall stick it out as long as he can.’? “what do you think you will do with the objec- tionable naines? Will there be a deadloek |’? “Oh, no, There won't be any deadlock in this Board. We shall not simply table the names of the men we don’t like; WE SHALL REJECT THEM, If the Mayor wants war he can have war, and we shall follow bis lead.” Another Alderman, who appeared very friendly to the table, said he supposed the tabling of the names meant that the Board didn't like them. Altogether the dissatisfaction and the excitement were of a very lively character, and no one, even the Mayor's best wisher, could full to perceive that the Aldermen were quite united on one point— that these names should not be passed by them. Subsequently Alderman Monheimer was closeted some titne with the Mayor, and 8S, Stern called later and took up the Mayor's time for two hours or so. His-object is understood to be to get the nomination as one of the Commissioners of Chari- ties and Correction. The Mayor is not decided whether to give it to him or not. Mr. Have- “meyer received the news of the treatment of his nominations with equanimity, but made no re- marks publicly about it, In the Mayor’s OMce various groups congregated and discussed matters after the adjournment of the Hoard, and the con- clusion was that things looked rather blue. The Mayor's Message to the Municipal Council—Its Effect and What Was Done with It—The Tabling Process. ‘The Board of Aldermen met in the morning much as usual, all the members being present. The lob- bies were crowded to their utmost capacity by idlers, who expected the nominations of the Mayor would be sentin. The following letter from him was received :— Mayor's Orrice, New Yor, May 5, 1873. To THe Hononasix tHe BOARD OF ALDERMEN OF ThE CITY oF New York :— In pursuance of the provisions of an act entitled ‘‘An act to reorganize the local government of the city of New York,” passed the 30th day of April, 1873, [hereby nomi- nate to, and, subject to the consent of the Board of Alder- men, appoint John Wheeler, a Commissioner and President of the Department of Taxes and Assessments, to hold said office for the term of six years, to wit, until the lat day of M ich will be in the year 1879; also, George H. Andr Commissioner of sdid Department of Taxes and Agsessinents, to hold said office for the term of four year, to wit, until the Ist of May 1X77; and sovern D. Moulton a Commissioner of said Department, for two until May 1, 1875. bigs 5) WILLIAM F. HAVEMEYER, Alderman FLANIGAN moved that the nominations be laid over and printed. Alderman Van ScHalck moved, in amendment, to refer them to a committee of five to investigate their fitness, He subsequently withdrew his amendment, and the nominations were laid over to be printed by the following vote :— Yuas—Messrs. Cooper, thre ay Flanigan, Kehr, Koch, ellly. Lysaght, Ottendorier “ jays—President Vance, Messrs, Billings, Monheimer, Morris, Van Schaick and McCafterty. The Mayor sent in the name of Henry Clausen as Alderman, to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Peter Gilsey. This nomination was also laid over. The Mayor, in a letter similar to above, nomi- nated the following for Health Commissioners :— Dr. Charlies F. Chandler for the long term, Dr. Stephen Smith for the short term. The confirmation of the above was laid over by a vote of 2 to 12, Messrs. Monheimer and Morris.cast- ing the negative votes. Ir. BILLINGS, from the Committee on Arts and Sciences, reported upon the ke peed of Mr. Bergh to have a dog asylum erected, and made a humorous report upon the effects of carbolic , Feplete with puns that produced some merriment and caused Alderman McCaiferty at the close of the reading to take the floor and dramatically recite sthe nursery rhyme commencing “Let dogs de- light.” He moved the discharge of the committee. T ne ast 0 was discharged; and this is, prob- ably, the last of the dog asylum movement, ir. MORRIS moved to take from the table the names ofthe Tax Commissioners and vote upon them now. It was ruled out of order. The gt adjourned until Thursday, at half-past ee P.M. Mayor Havemcyer on the Aldermanic Action. Late in the afternoon a HERALD reporter called on Mayor Havemeyer at his private office. The crowd of office-seekers, for a wonder, had gone home, or somewhere else, and the only gentleman present besides the attachés of the various bu- reaus of the office was School Commissioner James Kelly. When the reporter entered the Mayor was busy signing checks. “T bave called, Mr. Mayor, to inquire whether you attach any particular significance to the action of the Aldermen this afternoon in laying over your nominations,” said the reporter. “In what way ?” asked the Mayor, “Well, sir, was their action, or rather their lack of action, in not confirming them at all unex- pected by you?” THE MAYOR NOT FLURRIED. “Not in the least. I didn’t quite expect that they would be prepared to act on them immediately,” answered the Mayor, with his accustomed imper- turbability. “I should like to Know, Mr. Havemeyer, it you have no private reason for withholding the fact, whether the vote to ‘ay over’ was cast by the samc members whose names were furnished to you as being in combination and disposed to block your appointmenis unless they were suited?’’. + “Let me see. have the names here some- where,” and the Mayor began to look over some papers on his desk. “There were eignt names reported as being fm the combination,” interpolated the repor- ter, ‘and I see that the motion to ‘lay ever’ the nominations for Tax Commissioners was carried by a vote of 8 to 6."" “Oh, yes; oh, yes. They are not the same mem- bers whose names were reported to me,’ replied Mr. Havemeyer. FURTHER NOMINATIONS. “Do you intend to withhold ali further nofMina- tions, Mr. Mayor, until those alreaay sent in have been confirmed or rejected?’ “Oh, no; Lcan’t do that. They don’t meet again until Thursday, and at that rate we should never get through. I shall send them in as fast as 1 com- plete the lists.” This closed the conversation, and, thanking His Honor for his courtesy in affording the Informa- tion, the reporter retired. THE NOMINEES. Dr, Stephen Smith for Health Commis- sioner. Dr. Smith, who was yesterday nominated for the two year term as Commissioner of Health, has Served a number of years on the Health Commis- sion, when we had a Metropolitan District Commis- sion and since. He 1s the only one ofthe present Board nominated. He is an able sanitarian, and, 48 chairman of the Sanitary Committee of the Board of Health made many excellent suggestions as to the health of the city. His retention in office will be an assurance that the Commissioners will not ail be inexperienced. He is a republican, although he has not usually mixed in the contests that so often are waged for place and power. Dr. Charles F. Chandler for Heaith Com- mission who has been nominated for the term of four years on the Health Commission, is a chemist whose fame has extended throughout the \city and reached into other States. He is quite a young man, but some of his papers are marked by much sctentific study and a perfect mastery of the sub- ject of which he treats. He was a Professor in Jolumbia colleme: and for years has held the posi- ing Chemist to the Board of Health. The complexton of his politics is doubtful, as he Wer im the crowd. What it meant seemed to be ex- ressed.in What one very tlerce person said to the BRALD Feporter:—“Bad enough; but they ain't balf so’bad as we expected. That's aomething.”’ With the Aldermen themselves the signs oi dis- satisfaction and nn naif were very evident. That they didn’t appreciate the nominations of the ge was ost immediately made evident by laying of them over. But after the meeting or Ss c nature eats ati went amon ta of the has abjured them for the science which ‘he so much loves, His Domination will, no doubs be confirmed. Mr. Henry Clausen for Alderma Mr. Heffry Clausen, who was nominated yester- day by Mayor Havemeyer for Alderman in the place of Peter Gilsey, deceased, is a German and a large lager beer brewer. He is v well known and popular among the German po} tion, though arg RAUL 50 deen, mainiy FB sence quring the past two years in supporting the reform candidates in this city and giving time and money to the cause. Mr. John Wheeler for President of Tax Commission. Mr. John Wheeler, who received the nomination for Chairman of the tax Commission, is an old and intimate friend of Mayor Havemeyer. He is also a well known member of the Committee of Seventy, and has been active in a half dozen various reform organizations. Mr. Wheeler is an ex-M. C., and when in Congress made a good record. Since the fall of the Tammany Ring Mr. Wheeler sided with Mayor Havemeyer on al! local questions 01 reform, and it is thought to be due to this that he received the nomination, Mr. Andrews for Tax Commissioner. Mr. George Andrews has been a Commissioner of Taxes for some years, and has,it is said by his fends, given satisfaction in the position. He held the position up to the moment when the charter was signed by the Governor, and Mayor Havemeyer has been strongiy urged by Mr, An- drews’ influential friends to reappoint him to his old position, Yielding to these influences and to Mr. Andrews’ good record the Mayor gave him the nomination. Nor did his appointment receive any opposition such as has characterized that of some others, Mr. Levern D, Moulton for Tax Commis- sioner, Mr. Moulton is a wealthy gentleman and was one of the original members of the Committee of Seventy. He has been a candidate for Member of Assembly lately, and is an ex-Member of the Legis- lature. Mr. Moulton is a republican in politics, and is about seventy years of age. THE DECEASED BISHOP. Bishop McIlvaine Lying in State at St. Paul's Chapel—The Funeral Services to Take Place To-Day, at ‘Three o’Clock—A Large Attendance of the Clergy and Laity Expected. ‘The remains of the late Bishop McIlvaine, of the Episcopal diocese of Ohio, were yesterday trans- ferred from the steamship City of Baiflmore, of the Inman line, lying at the footof Spring street, to the charge of a committee of arrangements of thirty-five of the most prominent gentlemen con- nected with the Episcopal Church in this city, by the Rev. W. S. Lamson, the rector of the Ameri- can chapel in Paris, im whose special charge the remains had been placed be- fore the steamer left for New York, from Liverpool. A large number of ladies and gentle- men assembled yesteraay afternoon at St. Paui’s chapel, on Broadway, near Vesey street; but al- though the church was open at the rear entrance the remains of the deceased Bishop had not ar- rived. _ Shortly after half-past three o’clock a number of carriages, provided by the sexton, Mr. Weil, drove up to the side entrance of St; Panl’s church and the committee enterea them and drove tothe pier at the foot of Spring street, North River. The names of the Committee of Arrange- ments, of which General Frederic De Peyster is chairman, are as follows:— R. Pyne, Henry P. Marshall, George D. Morgan, W. Ri. Neilson, George D. Collins, Henry B, Renwick, William Remsen, Lloyd W. Wells, Benjamin Aymar, Adam Norrie, William Butler Duncan, Howard Potter, Wiliam B. Clerke, John H. Earle, Henry A. Oakley, Stephen P. Nash, George T. Strong, Henry Drisler, James &. De Peyster, Cyrus Curtiss, Stewart Brown, James M. Brown, Frederick G, Foster, F. 8. Winston. Lewis Curtis, William Scott, George Wright, Charies Short, J. A. Perry, Matthew Clark- son, Henry P. Morgan, Francis Moran and Andrew H. De Witt. RECEPTION OF THE REMAINS. ‘The committee were received by the officers of the ship and of the company with the greatest courtesy, and were escorted to that portion of the ier in Which the body was placed in readiness to e removed to the church. The Rev. Mr. Lamson the diocese of the deceased, consisting of the Rev. Mr. Yocum, Mr. Odiorne and Mr. Buchanan, in a few briefand touching remarks, in which he re- lated the facts in regard to the discharge of his sacred duty as a custodian of the remains. Gene- ral DePeyster responded in the same strain and with gracious compliments, and the body was placed in the charge of the undertaker and the committee, and they were conveyed, encased as they were, when THE FUNERAL SERVICES will take place positively and precisely at three o'clock in the afternoon, a mistake paving one rred in making yesterday the time for the services, These services will be of a special nature, but with- out any display, and will consist of the Me ye sentences in the burial service, anthem, lesson, hymn, collects and benediction. Bishop B. B. Smith, of Kentucky, will preside at the request of Bishop Potter, of New York, Bishop Smith and Bisho) Melivaine were both consecrated and received the Episcopase thirty-one years ago In the chapel of8t. Paul, where to-day the burial services will be heard for the deceased. The Vedat sf ttao who are to officiate are the Rev. Stephen H. Tyng, of St. George’s; Rev. Morgan Dix, of Trinity; Rev. Mr. Schenck, of st. Ann's, Brooklyn, and Rev. John Cotton Smith, ‘of the ‘Church of the Ascension, Fifth avenue. A large number of Episcopal Bishops, clergy and laity will attend the funeral services, it is presumed. No sermon will be preacned. At the close of the ceremony the committee of gentlemen from Ohio will escort the remains to the Efie depot, in Jersey City, whence they will be taken to Cincinnati. } EPISCOPAL MINISTERS? CONFERENCE. Yesterday the regular meeting of the Protestant Episcopal Ministers’ Association was to have been held at the Church of the Incarnation, at which the Rev. N. E. Cornwall, D. D., was to have read a pa- per on “The propriety and expediency o1 fairs and other similar methods of raising money for religious and charitable purposes.” The arrival of the re- mains of the late Bishop Mellvaine in this city and the consequent deep interest which the ministers and laymen of the Church are taking in their dispo- sition called off a great many members of the Asso- ciation, so that the attendance at the meeting yes- terday was very slim. Indeed, at the hour ap- pointed, three o’clock, a committee of ministers and laymen of this city were arranging for tue de- barkation of the BODY OF THE LATE PRELATE from the steamer which conveyed it hither and its transfer to St. Paul’s churci here, where the committee from the diocese of Ohio will receive it and take it thence to Cincinnati. Tbe Senior Bis- hop of the American Church, Smith, who was pres- ent, Was imvited to preside at the meeting, and a suggestion was made that some resolutions, ex- pressive of their regret at the decease of the late Bishop, should be adopted, after which the meeting would adjourn for one week. BISHOP M'ILVAINE’S WISHES. Bishop Smirn remarked that it was the dying wish of his late Brother Mcllvaine that no funeral sermon should be preached or funeral ceremonies be performed over his remains, but that his body should be placed in the earth tn as quiet a manner as possible, The Bishops and the committees who have had the arrangements in hand have, there- fore, kept these wishes steadily in mind, and there Will be nothing set or formal in connection with the funeral services, ‘These, indeed, will be very brief, And after the honors paid to to the late prelate in London, Bishop Sinith thought it would be becoming ip his brethren here to carry out as far as possible the wishes of their deceased brother. Even in his own diocese, Ohio, there will be no memorial services connected with the funeral, but on the evening of the day on which the funeral takes place tn Cincinnati the Bishop of Delaware will preach an appropriate sermon on the death of his late Brother Mclivaine, of Ohio. Asa@ mark of respect, therefore, after hearing these remarks and without any formal resolutions having been adopted, the Conference adjourned for one week. The association will meet next Mon- day at three o'clock in the Church of the Incarna- tion, Thirty-flith street aud Madison avenue. Most Rev. Archbishop Bayley, Primate of America, lies quite ill at the cathedral residence in Newark, hs home for nearly t Ww years. It was noticed on Sunday that he drew from the sanctuary of St, Patrick's Cathedral some time be- fore the close of Bishop Corrigan’s consecration, Mis absence from the dinner at the Catholic Institute after the service was also noted, Archbishop McCloskey, in the course of his re- marks, referred feelingly te his brother Archbishop, aud is reported to have said that though he was not aware ofthe exact cause of Archbishop Bay- ley’s absence it was possibly owing, he thought, io the fatigues consequent on his arduous duties in Baltimore, The illness of Archbishop Bayley is not considered at all serious. SUICIDE OF A UNITED STATES ARMY , OFFIOER, WATERTOWN, N. Y., May 5, 1873. Lieutenant Johs L. Worden, an army officer sta- tioned at Madison Parracks, Sackett’s Harbor,com- mitted suicide yesterday morning by cutting his throat from ear toear witha carving knife. The death of bis wife some months ago it is supposed a his mind. He was a son of Admiral Wor- den, who commanded the Monitor in the confict With the sobs) ack. Frederic De Peyster, J. Pierpont Morgan, Percy | delivered the remains to the committee from Ohio, | embalmed and covered by a large wooden case, to | the church, where they will remain until to-day, | P! THE MAYORALTY MUDDLE. What Leading Lawyers and Ex-Mayors Have to Say About the Prevailing Conun- drum---Mayor or Not Mayor ? Charles O’Conor and Ex-Mayor Hall on the Situation. Interviews with Dorman B. Eaton, Ex * Mayor Opdyke and Abraham R. Law- rence—The Great Question Still Unanswered — Additional Legislation Needed. ‘The tople of the !ast few days among all those interested in the personnel of the city govern- ment has been the Mayoralty. It has been dis- cussed in political circles with intense interest ever since the HERALD mooted the question of the charter legislating Mayoa Havemeyer out of office, With a view to gather up this opinion and present it im @ concrete form, several promiment gentle- men were interviewed by HERALD reporters yes- terday, and their views are given below. The bal- ance of opinion is manifestly tn favor of the Legis- lature passing @ declaratory act by which Mayor Havemeyer shall be continued in office, What Charles O’Conor Says. Mr. Charles O'Conor was found at his office in HERALD reporter as to what importance was to be attached to the prevailing rumor that Mayor Have- meyer had been legislated out of office by the new charter, said:— “That is a. matter, sir, that, before a final, com- plete and authoritative opinion could be given, would involve a long examination and compari- sons of the different charters and the repealing clauses of the present charter,” “I belleve that you have examined the charter, Mr. O’Conor, professionally, have you not?” jo; Isee the newspapers say 80; I think I saw the HERALD did yesterday; but I have not, I was consulted a8 to the modification of a particular clause, on behatf of some parties who were in- terested in that clause; but the charter itself I have not read through to this day.” “{ suppose, however, you have a general opinion as to this scare about Mayor Havemeyer being legislated out of omice.” “As a matter of impression rather than of opin- fon, and of acursory examination of the question, 1 have no doubt that Mayor Havemeyer is the Mayor for the full term of his election; and this scare or rumor, or whatever it may be, has never appeared to me of, sufficient importance to justify me in taking any trouble to fortify that opinion by any elaborate examination.” . “May I be allowed to ask on what your general impression may rest, Mr. O’Conor ?” THE DOUGAN AND MONTGOMERIE CHARTERS. “Well, sir, lcannot see how the sections in the Dougan charter of 1686 and those im the Mont- gomerie charter of 1730, in reference to the ancient and charter rights of the city, which are not re- pealed, and the first section of the present char- ter, can be read and 80 construed as to mean a displacement of the present Mayor, or the Mayor wlio was the Mayor at the time of the passing of the charter. The section I refer to you probably know, but it reads as follows:— “The corporation now existing and known By the name. of ‘The Mayor, Aldermen and Commonalty ot the city of New York,’ shail continue to be # body poiitic and corpo- rate, in fact and name, by the same name, and shall have perpetual succession, with all the grants, powers and privileges heretofore held by the Mayor, Aldermen and Commonaity of the city ot New York, and not modi- fied or repealed by the provisions hereihatter made by this act “Then I presume you think that the Mayor in that section does not mean the office Dut the man who held the ofice at the time o! the passing of the charter? “Unless the charter contained a clause that de- rived Mr. Havemeyer of the office of Mayor, spe- ciically, he hoids his office by virtue of his present incumbency, in my opinion; but it is only an opinion. I am free to confess that if this dificuity had been foreseen set Jay have suggested some clause by which it could have been met. But it } Was not suggested, and I think the best legal minds who we paid any attention to it, now it has arisen, have no fear that Mr. Havemeyer’s tenure of oflice during his elected term ts secure.” CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS. “Do you think the constitution provides that the Mayor shall be an elective officer?”? “| think not; I assisted in the making of the constitution and signed it. I am not, however, quite clear about that. I will see. then read it, and, after reading tt, reduced his opinion to writing, as follows, and handed it to the reporter :— “By article 10, section 2 of the constitution all city Officers whose election or appointment is not provided for in this constitution shall be elected by the electors such cities or appointed Bi such authorities thereof as the Legislature 1 designate for that purpose.’’ “Now,” said Mr. O’Conor, “there is no pro- vision fn the constitution making the Mayor elective, or containing any direction concerning him except this one, conseqnently the Legis- lature has entire control over the subject, with this limitation. They must make him elective by the people or give the power of appointing him to some local oficer or officers. Consequeutly if this scare about Mayor Havemeyer had anything in tt (which I do not believe), the Legislature could cure its own slip in a moment, It would only be necessary to enact that ‘any va- cancy existing, or that may exist, in the office of Mayor of the said city before the day when the term of a Mayor hereafter elected shall commence, may | be filled by an appointment, to be made by | Comptroller for the time being of the city of iets Mayor Havemeyer’s Iriend Green would return the compliment.” A LEGISLATIVE “SLIP.” “Do you think the Legislature would be likely to do this”? “There is no reason why they should not, if it is necessary. It is evidently a slip, an oversight in legisiation, as alleged by those who had taken this objection, Any member who voted ‘nay’ to @ clause that was intended to Load @ slip in a bill of its own creation would cover himself with in- famy, and would be scarified by pubite opinion.” “But would it not be rather ‘eating the leek’ for the Legislature to give the appointment of Mayor to Comptroller Green ?”” “The object of the amendatory clause, if it is needed, ts to continue Mayor Havemeyer in office; the appointing power must. therefore, be given to an officer who would be suse to appoint Mayor Havemeyer. That, I presume, there is no doubt upon to do it.” TENURE OF OFFICE OF INCUMBENTS. ‘Don't the revised statutes contain a clause giving power to present incumbents to hold over until their successors are appointed’ And if no one wants @ change in the mayoraity the successor need not be named,” “That is a wise conservative provision of all law, known long before these statutes were known, that any one who had the appointment or coierable appointment to an office, and was in possession of it, should retain it until somebody comes to turn him out.’? “A kind of provision that 1s understood in the phrase ‘the ng evee dies.’ “Quite 80. ere is no legal difficulty in that matter as far as the Mayor is concerned. Any talk about warrants and bonds being invalid is ail idle talk. Mayor Havemeyer is Mayor until somebody shows 4 better right to it, and, as Ihave already said, I don’t think that is possible until ms term 18 over, or it lapses by the usual course of events.” What Ex-Mayor Hall Says. ‘The reporter found Mr. Hail in his charming law chambers (quite’ of the British barrister order) dictating @ brief to his stenographic secretary. After @ few pleasant interchanges the reporter asked the ¢x-Mayor if he had examined the ques- tion whether the charter had legislated the Mayor out? Mr. HAUL (smiling)—That is to say, whether the Legislature has innocently relieved Mayor Have- meyer of those perplexing duties which he is dis- charging with so much ease, grace, dignity and de- spatch? No, 1 have not particularly examined it lately. RePorTER (echoing)—Lately! Why, it has only been started three days, Mr. HALL (still smiling meaningly)—I examined a similar question three years’ ago about this time. ‘There was @ positive omission to coutinue me in office by the charter of 1870—a resuit of the last engrossing scramble In the Senate, and unless this new charter is an improvement upon that one tome Mayor Havemeyer is ituated 23 I thought MAYOR HALL’S DILEMMA IN 1870. ReEPoRTER—Then you thought you were not in office in May, 18707 Mr. HaLi—I came, along with some legal friends, to that conclusion, and never feit, until a suppie~ mental act was d apparently aflirming my continuance in office to do certain acts, that I was to After all, Mr. Green would do and couid be safely reiied | Mr. O’Conor referred to the constitution and | | meeting to be held to-morrow. tically to this, “Will President Vance dispate it? If he will not, who can’? RerorteR—Why did you question your title ? Mr. HaLL—Becauee 1n 1870 only such parts of the Dongan and Montgomerie charters as were then in force were continued. These provided for an ap- pointed Mayor, The 1870 act repealed every other cha: ter ‘The 1870 act Was not a cl r. It did not purport, as did ever, one “to amend the charter of,” &c. to provide local government tor New York city. inaugurated a new scheme. The charter of 1830 first initiated an elective Mayor; 1870 repealed all pier charters and that of 1807, under which I had en elected. It seemed the same to me as if the Legisiature by one act had Tepenved all prior on charters, ‘The law conierring election gone, | was ‘STRICKEN OUT BY MISTAKE.’? Rerorrer—But were there no words recognizing your election and continuing your term ? Mr. HALL—None. Judge Edmonds had drawn a charter (commonly known as the Frear Charter) which was the first introduced which cared ior thi continge’ + ‘The next and compromise charter at first contained the saving neads; buf, as 1 tell you, they got stricken out by mistake, and, unless the charter Of 1873 is better than that of 1870 Was in the respect mentioned, I should be of opinion that the present Mayor ought to have a ratifying act, i one be constitutional and jurisdictional. | Revortr#eR—Here 1s a copy of the charter. Mr. HaLL (turning it over)—I see Section 1 con- | firms the Corporation as a corporation, Lobserve | other sections confirm and continue both boards, lobserve that in aby vacancy of Mayor the Presi- dent of the Aldermen becumes Mayor, as Vice | President Johuson became President. (Turning | over and over the leaves slowly) and here would seem to be an EXPECTATION OF TROUBLE, because, for the first time iu a municipal law, the phrase occurs as follows :—** priation or payment tor the contesting (not an election but) of the ‘oftice’ of Mayor (amony other enumerations also new) shall be made to any but the prevailing pars.t ReErorrex—That, then, is new ? Mr. HaLi—Kntirely new and apprehensive, per- haps (still turning). No, Isee no diiference here between this and the tapsus of 1870, ‘ ReroxreR—On the whole, then, what do you think of the law question ? Mr. HaLt—Please write precisely what I now Wall street, and in reply to the inquiry of the ; Say—the rest of the conversation phrase as you please, preserving the ideas—this is not 80 much a law question as one of political power and olicy. If Mr, Vance don’t rise the law question t won’texist, Mr, Coman never raised it against ine, and very few kuew of the blunder, What Ex-Mayor Opdyke Says. Ex-Mayor Opdyke was called upon at his down- town ofice. Mr, Opdyke, with his usual urbanity, consented to make the following statement con- cerning that vital defect of the charter which is said to leave Mayor Havemeyer shivering out in the cold. He said :— “Aslam nota lawyer Ihave not examined the legislative effect of the provisions of the new char- ter relating to the Mayor, but I nave conferred with my son, who isa member of the Assembly, and who has made a hurried examination of the charter and of the law to see if any decisions of the courts cover the point; but as yet he has been unable to fiud any. Though his oplnions are not free from doubt he inclines to the telief that the” provisions of the charter, fairly interpreted, RETAIN THE PRESENT MAYOR, He says that the provisions of the Montgomerie and Dongan charter not in conflict with the present one are continued. Under those the Mayor was not elected, but appointed, from which it would appear that an appointed Mayor would cer- tainly continue under those provisions. It would seem therefore that if an appointed Mayor were continued under the present charter one hold- ing the place by the stronger claim of election would be retained under it also. It seems to me that, ifa careful examination of the questions in- voived by able lawyers should leave a doubt on their minds as to the retention of the Mayor, it is clearly mcumbent on the Legislature to REMEDY THE DEFECT atonce bya supplementary bill; for, while that doubt exists there can be no transactions in the securities issued by the city government. At least such is the impression of a leading dealer tn those securities Who conferred with me on the subject this morning.” Dorman B, Eaton Speaks. Mr. Dorman B, Eaton was visited next. Since his appointment as Civil Service Adviser Mr. Eaton | considers himself out of the arena of local politics, and, being asked to say something regarding the Mayor, whose existence is put in doubt by the charter, he at first felt some hesitation to express any opinion on the subject. Upon the explanatory erry of the HERALD reporter, however, he re- marked : THE MAYOR STILL IN OFFICE. “1 think the Mayor is still in office, but there may be gous fof some doubt about it, and TL think it the duty of the Legisiature to pass a de- claratory act at once, removing ali doubt og the subject. and, as @ republican, | should be ashamed of my party, and should consider it disgraced if it should connive at depriving the Mayor it elected of his oftice, either by its bungling manner ot legis- lation or by the passing of a charter that accom. plishes a purpose which was never avowed and whieh the public never suspected. Several of the amendments openaing. to the charter are man- ifestly desighed to give an undae PARTISAN INFLUENCE to the city administration, and there is net one of them of a tithe of the importance to the people of this city that it is to have the Legislature relieved of any taint of fraud im the provisions in regard to the Mayor and to have all controversy about the Mayor’s power speedily terminated, I think the Legislature will pass some act removing any doubt as to the Mayor’s authority ff, in consultation with lawyers or judges, there should be found an: difference of opinion on the subject, for if there is any real doubt as to the power of the Mayor to sign the city bonds it will not only bring down ea Price but greatly impair the credit of the city.” Abraham R. Lawrence Does Not Speak. This gentleman, who was likewise visited by the HERALD reporter, was exceedingty non-committal on the same subject. He merely remarked :— “I am not prepared to give any opinion, not hay- ing seen the charter as signed by the Goveruor, and experience of former years has taught me to withhold any expression of opinion until I have examined the genuine article. This, I can say, however, that Mr. Havemeyer is the rightful Mayor of New York tor the term he has been elected, and 1 know of no act of legislation that has set his election aside.” THE ASSISTANT ALDERMEN, There was no important business transacted yes- terday, as the members are in doubt as to their powers under the new charter te goon with the public works of the city. The charter provides that they shall advertise five days in the oficial ae before the execution of any work necessitat- ing expenditure of money, and as the new charter abolishes the Record, and there is no official paper, they are unable to proceed with business. Mr. Clancy moved that a communication be sent to Commissioner Van Nort asking that the Superin- tendent of Encumbrances remove all obstractions from the Bowery, except such as are authorized by the ordinances of the Common Council. The resolu- tion was adopted, William M. Dean was appointed o'clock P, M. on Tuesday, when the report of the Special Committee on the Chamberiain’s Fees will be considered. THE SHIP JOINERS STRIKING. Preparations for a Defiant and Definite Movement. A meeting of ship-joiners, N. Betts presiding, was held at Military Hall, in the Bowery, last night, for the purpose of taking action to raise the rate of wages, in view of the fact that, although busi- ness at this trade ts very brisk during the present | season, they receive less pay than the ship carpen- ters. ‘The latter receive, since their strike last spring, $4 per day, while the ship joiners receive only $3 50, It was therefore resolved to raise the STANDARD RATE OF WAGES to $4 per day, and a committee was formed to take further action in the matter and to report at a The question in the present movement is not the eight hour sys- tem, and the men wy contented to work TEN HOURS PER DAY on new work and nine hours per day at repairing, as heretofore, if they gain their point in the matter of wages. The meeting last night was held under the auspices of the Shipjoiners’ Protective Union, nambering over two handred members, including almost all of the trade, and measures were dis- cussed to strengthen the organization, with a view of successfully carrying out the movement. isk sada * Grail DRANK FOUR BOTTLES OF WHISKEY. A man named Francis P. Campbell, living in Main street, near Slater, Paterson, where he owned con- siderable property, and who was notorious on ac- | count of his being perpetually in a lawsutt with some of his neighbors, started oif on a spree about seven weeks ago. He kept it up ever since, never seeing a sober moment in that time, and # Is sol- emnly averred that he did not taste a@ solid morsel of {ood in the whole seven weeks, subsisting en- tirely on liquor. On Saturday afternoon he was actuaily crazy from the effects of the rum. Before any one could divine his intentions he procured two Sarsaparilia bottles tull of whiskey, which he emptied into &@ basin and drank at almost a guip. This quieted Lim somewhat, but he re- peated the same doso in a few minutes after, mak- ing jour botties of Paterson rovgut in the course of @ very short time, Jn a few hours the effects of this liquor in its reaetion made him as wild as if he had the hydrophobla. A physician was sent for and quieting remedies administered, bat he was ast recovery and died shortly after. Ooroner miraux was notified, but did not deem an Inquest necessary. Ue leaves @ family comfortably pro- Vided fox, Section 118. No appro- | (i Surveyor, and the Board adjourned until two | 0% | | could be called intervals, 7 PISH CULTURE. A Visit to the Fish Ponds af Bloomsbury, N. J. How the Finny Tribe is Propagated in the Gar. den State—20,000 Young Salmon Depos- ited in a Tributary of the Raritan— Trip Up the Musconetcong Mountain. Bioomssury, N. J., May 2, 1873, It is well known that Congress appropriate® $15,000 during the last session but one for the pra» motton of fish culture in the United States. The quota of salmon fry for New Jersey was 40,000, Drs Slack, of Bloomsbury, one of the Commissioners of Fisheries for the State, had the young fish hatched in the ponds near his residence in the valley of Musconetcong. It was expected that the New Jersey Legislature would make some appropriation to promote the fishery interests, but the expec tation was not realized. Dr, Slack, after much care spent in raising the fish, resolved at last to inaugurate a movement that would stock the rivers of New Jersey with salmon and trout, Ac- cordingly, he fixed on this day for the important event, anda rainy, a drizzling, a miserable day it was. Alighting at the Valley stationon the New Jersey Central Railroad at half-past nine in the morning I found myself in the valley of the Musco- netcong, standing on the platform of a station that resembled a stable, the mountains on either sida shrouded in mist and the only highway visible coated with wet clay. After contemplating the scene for @ lew minutes a wavon, drawn by a handsome team, came dashing down the mountain road and halted at the platform, It came at a seasonable time, and after a brief explanation I found myself on the road up the mountain. Heavens, such @ road! If I should live haif a century I will never forgetit. Up, up, up, and tilt, tilt, tilt, the mud dashed into one’s face by the struggling horses, and the rain beating into one’s eyes and the driver predicting a “bad day,’’ there w: something to test the early education of a traveller, ‘This ain’t like your city roads, boss,’’ said the driver with most refreshin, coolness, as I clutched the rail of the seat to avon au involuntary summersault. The perils of the trip spoiled the contempiation of the surrounding scene, The curtain of mist that settled on the mountaing before us would not arise whether we wished or no. “How far have we to travel in this way? I asked, “About three-quarters ofa mile and then turn—a mile and a half altogether,’ was the response, And we did turn the three-quarter mile post with a vengeance. The driver did not understand centrifugal force, or he would have swept around the curve with some regard tor the inner circle. Any one who has ambition to become a@ traveller on such @ mountain road can acquire experience in a steeple chase ride. At last the journey was ended and the inspection of the ponds began. Dr. Slack was assisted by Commissioner J. R, Shotwell, gf Rahway, the third Commissioner, Dr. Howell, ing absent. To de- scribe the pans, troughs, water shoots, ponds, mull, method of ratsing the fish, &c., wouid occupy a large space. The place must be visited ifone would understand the process thoroughly. Tens of thousands of young salmon, each about one inch in length, sported in the pans, and when noon— feeding time—arrived they became wild. Once fed, however, they remain quiet till hunger again ate eee them. ‘If not attended to they devour each other, The trout ponds are, indeed, a great curiosity. When the food, consisting of meat, chopped in tne mill, 18 thrown into the pond containing the large fish the scene is exciting. From six to twenty or thirty may be seen to jump above the surface of the water in desperate rivalry for the coveted morsel, and this continues while the food is thrown in, There aré six ponds. The first, known as A pond, contains 10,000 trout, B pond 60,000 trout, bpring pond 500, pond No, 2 10,000, while pond No. 8isempty. There 1s alsoa pond in which water- cress in large quantities 1s raised. The spring which supplies the ponds discharged from twelve hundred to fifteen hundred gallons per minute. Standing on the brink of any of tne ponds you sea the river Musconetcong at your feet, sweeping part through the cleft in the valley, and through this river we had to drive to pursue our journey to the summit of the Musconetcong Mountain where one of the tributaries of the Raritan takes its rise, The horses plunged in with a treedom that was cheering to their living freight, and our confidence in the instinct of the animals was not misplaced. There was, indeed, cause for nervous- ness as the wagon sank deeper and deeper into the sandy bottom and the waters washed our boots; but the noble animals paced steadily along, as pursuing their route on the highway. The re- marks on the diifculties of the morning journey apply with more force to the ascent of the Mus conetcong. In the two galvanized iron vessels, somewhat resembling the milk cans of our city dealers, we Carried aiong about twenty thousand yong dalmon. “What is that smoke yonder at the base of the mountain?” I inquired, a3 we Wended our way to- wards the summit. “Why, that is one end of the tunnel where the Pattenburg riot occurred some weeks ago. Tho smoke comes from the engine by which the steam shovel 1s operated, We will have better view when we reach the other side.” The mountain road 1s by no means dreary 01 desolate, for little hamlets sent UD their curling smoke on either side, and the busy hum of industry was audible at intervals, if the momentary spells of relief from the jolting in the ruts hen the top of the mountain was reached there was a sense of relief, and but little regard was paid to the other obsta- cles of the journey, till we came to the little stream that trickled down a fissure of the mountain and as far as visible was nowhere more than four or six feet wide, Here the precious freight of Bre. salmon was deposited, Cheers were sent up, an the litte creek received the name of Salmon Run—a name that will yet become famous, when salmon fishing in the Raritan an Delaware Rivers will become @ favorite pastime. The Legislature of New Jersey acted in @ penurious spirit in the matter, as they refused to appropriate A single dollar towards the raising of the fish ap- ropriated by the general government, Dr. Slack ept the fry and raised the fish at his own ex- pense, The Commissioners will recommend an ap- ropriation at the next session of the Legislature, Dr, Slack abandoned the medical profession in Philadelphia, and has devoted himself for many ears tothe science of fish culture. As the late Legislature of New Jersey gave almost exclusive attention to railroads, it is hoped thut the fishin; interests may received some attention at the nex! session. THE PATTENBURG FARCE. Acquittal of John Boguc=—Two More Prisoners Put Upon Trial—Probable Collapse of the Prosecution, The trial of John Bogue, for the alleged murder of Benjamin Deshman, was concluded yesterday at Flemington, N. J. The prisoner, by direction of Chief Justice Beasley, was acquitted, there not being evidence enough to warrant his conviction. From present appearances the prosecutions will collapse as miserably in the succeeding cases a8 they already have in the two cases which lave been tried, thus verifying the prediction of the HERALD that the trial of the rioters will merely end in a fizzle, John Kelly and John Coyle were brought up for trial in the afternoon, bat the Go discouraged with the result of the last two trials, thought. it would be better to put the defendants trial for the minor crime of riot and leave the charge, if considered, later. The defence objected to the case proceeding at once, as the indictment was a sur- prise to them and they were not prepared to go on, ‘The Chief Justice overruled the objection, and the case was ordered on, A jury was then empanelled and the case Immedtately proceeded, Considerable evidence was then given for the prosecution, after which the Court adjourned until ten o'clock morning. THE HASSIE HOMICIDE, Empanclling a Jury—Post Mortem Exe amination. Frederick Hassle, the German who died at 343 Third street, on Monday night, from the effects of astab wound, received on the 28th ult, at the hands of Peter Ritter, is the man whose ante- mortem examination Coroner Kessler was called to take on Friday last. His statement, however, | was not taken, as Hassie did not consider his life in immediate danger, and the Coroner himself thought he would recover. Hassie, however, Was taken suddenly worse on Sunday evening, Whereupon Sergeant Robp, of the Eleventh precinct, at once notifiea Coroner Keenan to take his statement. ‘The immediately re- sponded ; — but, by the house, assie was dead. Took charge of. the case, an sequently empan- 7 a jury, who viewed the remains, alter which the investigation was set down for Wednesday morn! Coroner on | orning. Sunaequentiy Deputy Coroner Cushman made a post-mortem examination on the body, and found a@ stab wound on the cheat, penetrating the stomach, and another wound: in the abdomen, which severed some of the intestinegys The wounds were the cause of death. Ritter, consed, stiil remains In custody, awaiting tue result of ap in- vestigation, ‘The Now York Presbytery held ® short, session yesterday and was engaged in an earnest discus sion of the seoniar subject of the inauranca of thé aves of clergymeny