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THE EMPIRE STATE. General Review of the Pollti- cal Situation. THE SILENT VOTE. Analysis of the Strength of the Greeley and Sorehead Democrats. Democrats Xitting on tho Feneo While the Liberals Do All the Work. The Result of the Struggle Very Doubt- fal and a Small Majority Ex- pected for the Victor, MonrTICBLLO, August 22, 1872. Although a month has passed away sinec I left New York on my journey through the State, and I have during my travels done everything that lay 4m my power to enable me to tell with some degree of certainty at the end of my trip just: exactly how the situation stood as between Grant and Greeley, J must confess that J am aimest as much at sea as ever. I certainly do not wish to be understood as paying that my journey has been totaily fruitiess in the matter of facte and figures obtained by dint of hard personal canvassing and unwearying ohserva- tion which were given by ‘THw WORKERS OF BOTH PARTIES Wm the places I have visited, but when one finds at Almost every step he takes that each sidc has as good reasons as the other to show @ probable bal- ance in its favor next November in the State, it is rather discouraging to have to fall back upon your own fallible judgment of what you have seen and heard and make & Wecision for the one side as against the other. ‘When I speak of the two parties I refer simply to tbe Grant republicans and the liveral repubii- cans, And just bere, before I enter, as a windup to my last letter, into dry figures, which will only Interest for the time being the politicians, who can, of course, prove them to be false and improbable, Just according to the way that will most pleasantly agree with their political complexions, let me ex- plain why I classify the two parties into TWO REPUBLICAN CAMPS, leaving the democrats out of mention. Ina former letter I spoke about the strange action of some temocrats, who will not vote at all or who say they will vote for General Grant. Well, inorder not to sumber my letter with a “twice told tale,” I will way that in every county! have since traversed I Jound the situation the same among the democrats; that ts to say, {found in every place a few who asserted their determination to stay at home on election day, and again others who declared they will vote for. Grant. Whether it is a human possibility for a democrat to mot vote at all on election day is a question that is open to very grave doubt; but [simply state the fact, with the private opinion publicly expressed, that I put agreat deal more faith in the words of those democrats who say they ‘will vote for Grant than inthe pledges of those who say they will STAY AT HOME while the polls are open. I know there are demo- trata throughout the State who will grow indig- mant at the assertion that the fight in the interior As not a battle between the republican party on the pne side and the democratic party on the other; but people generally don’t call the tail of a kite the kite itself, no matter how big the tail may be. In all parts of the State I have been in I have found that the liberal republicans are the party that is working for victory over the administration, while the democrats stand idly by and look on without giving a helping hand. In a few instances, which Bre very rare, the case is different in certain coun- fies. The apathy of the democrats may arise from the fact that they, being the tail pf the liberal kite, and by far heavier ian the kite itself, can only play a second. ‘ary part at the very best. Let me illustrate. On the cars from Cortland to Norwich the other day I ‘was introduced by a Greeley democrat to a Greeley Yepublican. The latter is one of the hardest work- Ang liberals in his district, and is one of the mem- ‘ders of the Liberal County Committee. Of course he told me his fellow republicans of the same mind aa himself were doing splendidly. He gave me figares that showed on their face that the liberals are STRONG IN THE DISTRICT, and this rignt in the face of the figures given me by a Grant republican the night before. He argued to eonvince me (I found the workers on both sides in | erguing with a stranger did so asif they knew you didn’t believe a word they said) that the Grant men ‘Were getting ‘‘sancky”—the very expression ao Grant man used in & conversation with me some time previous in describing the condition of the Greeley men. “What,” said I finally to my liberal fiend, after he had exhausted his statistical tables and his breath, ‘What about the democrats?” “They will, with a few exceptions, go for Gree- fey. I have corresponded with other liberals in every county of the State and they say THE GRBAT BODY OF THE DEMOCRATS are all right, but ——” ‘The “but” was spoken so low and despairingly, by a peculiar shake of the speaker's head, that I right away felt that there was a screw loose somewhere. “Bat what?” I asked, ‘The iiberal looked at me steadfastly for a mo- ment as if to convince himself that my feelings ‘were not inimical to the Greeley men, and, secm- ingly satisfied with his inspection, he continued :— “Twill tell you frankly that the democrats are qnot working at all for the success of the ticket. ‘They are letting us liberal republicans do all the plougting and sowing and hoeing and they just a ON THE RAILS OF THE FENCE gand look on, They don’t turn out at our mass meetings and they do not furnish us with speak- ers.” I suggested that this might be good policy on the .Part of the democrats, Indeed, I informed him that Thad, asT really had, learned that a circular had ‘Deen sent out from the Democratic Committee in New York in which the local leaders were asked to advise the rank and file of the democracy to re- | main inactive and let the Greeley repubticans do ‘fall the “show business,’ so that republicans who ‘had not yet come out for Greeley but were inclined 0, and who would come out for the Philosopher if once satisfied that by bee so they would not be ‘going over to the democratic party,’ might be in- Guced to join the new peste. alt, friend would not put any faith in this at all. T seit yOs. What it ia," gaid he, ‘that 1s all fudge. Xheard the story before in Ontario county and know it is all boah. There is no use hiding the fact ‘that we ie ING THE CAMPAIGN WORK @nd we are not get any assistance from the democrats in the nies active, go-in assistance.” “Can you explain the cause of this imactivity?” I “T cannot,” he answered, cartiy; “if the aemo- erats-want the administration to b f Yo take ho, a, o be beaten they ut what's the difference,” I remarked, « Vote all Fight, i the long ru” sis adie “That's potenough. We want to influence every. ody we can to vote with us, and if the democratic dig. ache ecole occasionally attend our meetings and taik the question upon the platform, where they would be seen and heard. the load we are now carr; would be much lighter.” Now, I must admit that this gentleman from Cortland oary told the whole truth and nothin; but the truth. Ihave been in thirty-six ditrereut unties of the State, and my travels, I assure i, Were not by any means confined to the towns on the lines of the A Sige railroads. J made it a pint, whenever I could find @ conveyance of any ind by wien I could strike out into the small towns and hamlets in the interior, to take advan- mg 4 and sometimes 3 , wrangle and by every in; t aud device endeavor to Pers idence THE REAL SENTIMENTS OP THE VOTERS of the sections through which I passed, and the compiaint everywhere among the liberal republi- ans wae thé ppathy of the democrats, Bald a ‘NEW YORK HERALD, FRIDAY, AUGUST 23;'1872+WITH SUPPLEMENT. 3 the th unprejudiced, and with an eye simply to facts, can read ‘the condition of things without tne aid of the weakest kind of fiers, Still, I repeat that the ee ter portion of the democratic party im the coun- ay ait icts will support Greeley. ‘There are who will no doubt say, “What do we care how tre democrats act now, so long as they vote right at election?” Ido to answer the ques- tion; but between now and November there is a long period of time, @ which coldness and INDIPERENCE TO 4 CANDIDATR’S SUCCESS ne i thing more formidable, and of time sweep aside all smaller matters prefer to deal with are—rather than wit! THE SILENT MEN. There is yet another thing which strikes the bine! _— th the co teed Cpegtioge nf rol 16 rent ol a Boay of the democrats I refer to tne men’ who cannot he made to talk about Greeley or Grant under any conceivable circumstance. 1¢ has been My misfortune In several other political campatgns to live and trave) fer a while in the country tricts of this or some other State, and J cannot reoolicct any one in which the silent men who had ti bt to so nomerous as to for any feline jar mention. To be sure, in times past party lines were well defined and a man was either a republican or a rat. There was no man nota er to be discovered with a vote in a village or town who was Ce A age didn’t care a snap of his ey which candidate came out of the fight ahead. An et how different have I found the case to be In the interior of this State during the past month! These silent men, the men who refuge to talk politics, or who, ifthey do talk politics, talk in such a way as to draw others out without, to use a slangy but ex- pressive policeman phrase, “ GIVING THEMSELVES AWAY,’? abound by the score which ever way yon turn, it matters not whether it be in the city with its thou- sands of inhabitants, or in the little village where the whole voting population amounts to only the round sum of a hundred, Bey. do not belong to any par- ticular class, nor are they by any means what we call“ Jeaders”—men who assume, if they have {t not, the reputation of being able to influence so many men to vote so and s0. On the contrary, and the circumstance is a very peculiar one, the silent men are for the most part among the rank and file. They, unlike the so-called leaders, have no axes to grind—no favors to expect from the success of one party or disappointments to antici- pate from the defeat of their own. They are of the masses who vote because they have the right to vote, and who gencrally, when voting for one man as against another, do it as a aay ey owe to their country, conscicntiously and with the sole view of DOING WHAT 18 RIGHT, Among the farmers and ficid hands and the small business men in the villages who do not asarule meddie pptively: in politics, the silents are very numerous, Ask one of them which way he’s goin; to vote and he'll tell you he is so busy at his business that he doesn’t think he'll bother his head about politics this year. Another will not talk on the mbt at all, and if you fe one who ll talk you will leave as at a doubt as to where he stands as you were before you met him. The fact is that the Humber of this Class of men from one county to Bnother is quite formidable, and being, as I said before, generally conscientious mcn who belong to the and file, they are not always, when an offl- cial canvass is made by either party before the elec- tion comes off, rij nty”claaaed ponaealy. How this feature of the interior aistricts fs givii the wire puliers and the professional poli clans Of the various localities no small amount of TROUBLE AND. ANXIETY OF MIND. They are porn their heads to find out some Teason by which they can ascertain with some legree of accuracy how this aud that silent one vote when the time comes. A Greeley man will teil you, confidentially, that every man in his dis- trict who won't tell how he is to vote, he coin, knows, “from certain indications, will go Greeley. A Grant man, on the other hand, will tell you that he 18 well ‘posted, and all that sort of thing and that he has had the quiet fellows in his dis- trict watched and talked to slyly and he knows for @ dead certainty that every one of them to a man will vote for Grant. And thus it goes. In my turn I must give my opinion about the matter. I must admit that I lave been unable in any one instance here J got into conversation with any of the silents who was pointed out to me, to draw the Pie information from him about himself, although 1 found every one of them quite WILLING TO SPECULATE about how this or that other ‘mum's the word” voter would go. Taken all in all, these silent men in the country districts are really a mystery. Why they do not want to let anybody know how they ‘will vote I cannot for the life of mesee. They have nothing in a political way to gain by Tee their | Reger and nothing to lose. 1am inclined to the lief that nine out of every ten of them are as yet undecided which way studying the matter over in their own minds, prob- ably praying over it when they go to church; but when they do vote I believe they will do so without anybody knowing whom they really voted for. Now, then, this silent vote, to be sprerently 80 large, wil have, of course, a great weight in the matter of UPPING THE SCALES to the side of one candidate or the other. Can any- body tell whom they will vote for? I frankly con- fess that I “give tt up.” But I will say that the cal- culated and diligently worked up tables of the wire- ullers ag to the standings of the two parties In the ‘tate will be certain to turn out rather incorrect when the polls are closed if a Ja margin is not left somewhere for this silent vote. What makes the matter all the more interesting, and what I came near forgetting to state, is this—the silent men are all republicans! Now as to certain specific details as to certain counties through which I have travelled aince my last letter was sent to you. In SENECA COUNTY, which 1s a democratic county, the Greeley republl- cans are confident of being able by hard work to | Bot only help the democrats to carry the county by the usual majority, but even to Increase that | majority by several hundreds. In Seneca Falls the | Greeleyites have a good pope, and they are | sending out every day throughout the county “emissaries,”’ whose special duty itis made to drum up and drum tn all who can be convitced by argu- ment and promises of recompense in the future to join them, The contractors who have chai of the work on the new buildings of the il. | lard Insane Asylum or some other persons not generally known, have succeeded in making the workmen—nearly all Irishmen—declare their preference for Grant. This defection may change the result of things completely in the county in November, for the “hunkera’’ are not so strong ag they 01 were. I rode down to the oat landing at Willard’s, when I was leaving Ovid | {na buggy driven by aGrant man. “How is it,” | Lasked iat one por- im as we jongea along, tion of the county republican and the other democratic?’ The reply was, “It is all on account of those old Dutch settiers, ‘They're all ‘hunkers’ down there; they is ‘hunkers’ bow aud their pos- terity was ‘hunkers.’” In CAYUGA COUNTY J. S. Bowen, a well known republican, who is soon to bring asult, Ilearn, against General Grant ina | civil matter, 18 working hard for the Greeley ticket and has @ small number of republican followers. In Chemung county the democrats are more enthu- atic over Greeley, or, to put it more correctly, ey seem to be more DETERMINED TO STICK TOGETHER in his support than the democrats of any one other county I have visited. In ALLEGHANY OOUNTY the Greeley republicans make a pretty good show- ing, and Steve Haight is oone his bost to break the regular repubiican ranks, He has made great inroads already upon the party, and his friends say the Grantites will have a rough Toad to travel by November. The Corning ring are also active and will be heard from on election day. In TOMPKINS, BROOME, TIOGA AND SCHUYLER the defection of Milo Goodrich has had its effect, as may readily be imagined, among his old foliowers. Probably the liberal republicans, headed by Good- rich, are doing more real hard work for Greeley than the liberals in apy other section of the State, In little Ithaca alone there are 600 Greeley republi- cans, aud in Binghamton over fifteen hundred, the latter being actually greater in number than the number of republicans who voted at the last election. In SCHUYLER COUNTY there are from four to five hundred Greeley repub- licans, and, jadging from whatI have seen, | sus- ect that Broome county may be carried by the reeleyites. Goodrich and his co-workers believe oq they will be able to triumph in the four coun- wa, but if they do the victory will be an exceeding graat surprise to everybody who has watched the ONE of the Grant men, whose orgonization in eack! One 18 perfect, while the liberals have not the sam? Systematic way of working for their own interests as their opponents. CORTLAND COUNTY is a stron; Pepublican county, but the defection in the repubilcap Janks is quite a serious matter for to vote, that they are | administration men to counteract. In ‘the are seventy-five Gree! ville there ley In_ li forty- in ste oe ee =e ty not much troubled by farmers, pv -Seor e A, rn vilige ot Cortana the Conate Judge ex- e' of the Cour’ are out for ley, but - 5 hse it Ric coast aa, adieu" Sal ad man, ideas, a S cataate Re seaektned to see dur- Greeley & bad scare of November. The village of Greene, however, Teale’ geverel gives a tig majority, has about, to all a and promises to ive from hty to ty majority tor Grant. wil -give reecley wi election the y, are seventy Gr epubilesbs. ‘The town gave about one hundred republican majority at the last ele . ‘The democrats are not united in the county, and this gives riae to considerable uneasi- ness among the slate makers. The county, op the whole, however, is Gocperstown they are ris is owt for Gree! ley, Dr. Blodgett—ail old more t! Re that the county will &, for ral candidate. In Delaware the Grecley men ong the sepenilcens ere not quite so active nor by long odds a8 numerous, re seems to be @ snarl in both henango—as to the local offices, The live! don't seem to relish the idea of th the democrats wit and the hatter “will certainly back on their new allies if they do not su in getting the ar- bec ape tne to the local nominations settled to their satiafaction, Madison and Cowen Iberals are numerous and very active. In the town of Lenox, in the former county, there are 600 Greele: licans, according to the most rellable authori- ties on the Greeley side. In Oswego De Witt ©. Littlejohn is working very hard; but although he has many followers he nas not been able to draw efter him that number of republicans his poecial admirers had an idea he would. said that he will be the liberal candidate for Congrcss in the district. If he runs, Bpewiinasanding by ‘eat per- sonal yularits 1. think ie Will be beaten by Lansiag: Stall the contest between the two would he avery close one. In Dutchess and Columbia there are, all told, about six hundred Greeley republicans. In Rawling, Amenia, Stam- ford and Pine Plains, in the former county, the are working Ike beavers, Albert Aiken, a well- known old democrat of Rawling, however, is out for Grant, and his infuence will, no dow injure the Greeley party. Jt is more tha je that the two counties Will GO GREELEY. Franklin and St. Lawrence, I think, from what I saw. while travelling through them, will not give the liberals much consolation on clection day, In- deed, I believe that, notwithstanding the fact that there are Greeley republicans in both countics, The St, Lawrence regular republicans, aided by deinocrats who will vote for Grant, will give even a larger ma- jority for the Philadelphia nominee than she did in 168 In Jefferson, Lewis and Herkimer the Greeley men are active, but thelr numbers are. not 80 great as to give the Grant men much alarm. the counties of Orange and Stilivan the democrats in great numbers refuse to support Greeley, The liberals are, however, POE ted deal of work may carry the two if democrats do a and rry buck too pene against the pnenop hey. county, the Grant men will go blican b, aa put there le’ considerable dc. the usual majority, fection among the iblicans. In Uticaalone the 600 republican Iiberals claim Sates ve pcre votes.” The lowest estimate of the Greeley-repub- lican vote in the counties which are republican, ag rvation and far as I could learn personal obse from conversations with men of both parties in each county, may be set down as follows’ Republican Vote lican Repu ‘in 1868, . Comput'd, ih 8,782 1,100 rose 2,000 2,200 3,381 609 4,046 3,500 2 700 1,782 500 200 1 400 1,139 300 1,407 400 13287 300 2,539 600 tr 200 1,258 400 2208 500 1,061 300 425, 750 1,317 1,000 3,207 2,800 15619 ‘400 250 350 1,458 200 3,461 1,200 493 760 7,947 800 731 400 1,186 250 1,132 500 1,646 1,300 2927 360 1,63 400 Yates... 1,386 1,000 . 3, WHAT MAY BR. In conclusion, it must be said that if there is re- ally no eerious defection from the democratic ranks to the Grant camp, the defection from the repub- lican ranks to the Greeley camp is quite sufficient to give the State to the Philosopher in November— that is, if New York city should not, by reason of strange combinations darkly hinted at in the tn- terior by Grant repthlicans, fall away seriously from her oid-time democratic majoritt It will be seen by the figures I give above, the Greeley men do not—at least all of them—belleve that they will carry those republican counties which in 1868 gave a republican majority of from 1,200 and upwards; bat they do believe that the general defection is such in every county—in some @ small extent and in others to @ greater extent—that that triumph is certain in the end. Judging from ali I have seen during my travelling throngh the various counties, I can hardly see how the result can be other than a liberal triumph—dependent of course upon al) the contingencies. I have already pointe: things that may happen between now and Novem- ber to change the general aspect of affairs, but pres- ent indications in the interior all tend to foretella liberal victory, though the contest will be a ciose one and the majority for the victor a very small one, MB. OATAQAZY AND HIS PAMPHLET, The Ex-Diplomat Makes an Explana- tion—‘ Terrible Revelations”—He is Ir- repressible and Rather Pleased To Be So Considered. 11 Rog pu Havers, Panis, July 26, 1872, To THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD: — J find an editorial in the New York HERALD of the oth stating facts cencerning me of which your Lon- don correspondent knows the inaccuracy as well as I do myself. voring to sell a pamphiet containing terrible reve- jecons against General Grant, bis family, and so forth. Even were it correct that I had “terrible revela- tions” to disclose about General Grant, I should certainly refrain from so doimg out of considera- tion for the great nation of which General Grant ts etili the Chief trate. I bave exposed aletter to Chief Justice Chase real trath about my diMcuilties with Mr. H. Pish, and this I did solely for the Purpose of refuting the out- rageous charges brought agatust me in public docu- ments. Nobody has been authorized to sell my pamphlet D on my own account, or with a view to snr in ite sale, The object of the rumor 18 easy nl ceive. The Hegatp calls me irrepressible. do not object to this term. 1am and will be trrepres- sible in all cases concerning honesty, truth and Justice, eee itin denying the new falsehoods ‘of those who are interested jing the truth from the American people. am, with dis- tinguished consideration, yours. ©. CATACAZY. ‘The paragraph alluded to above was an editorial reference to @ London telegram to the Associated Press, which appeared in our columns, and which stated that a Mr. Welderman was offering for sale in London the copy of Catacazy's pamphlet, and that Weiderman’s letter to the Zoho was published by that paper. Our London correspondent informe us that Mr. Catacazy freely gave the copy of his pamphlet for the HERALD, and that such copy was matiled to us five days B2fore the Zoho referred to the subject; but he algo asserts that he saw a letter from this Weld erman, in which he proposed to sell Mr. Cata- cazy's pamphict for $1,000, and claimed to sell it by authority of the author. Of course this reduces the subject to a point of veracity between the unknown Weiderman and the distinguished diplomatist wiom the Emperor of Russia recently somewhat strong! Sharucterised aaa Matpior ande medder, Zestergay @fternoon the body of @ atillborn fe- male infant wae found floating ig the siver at the foot of Porsy street, out many | It impites that Ihave been endea- | THE BOURBON DEMOCRACY. Interview with the Secretary of the Committee. CHARLES CONOR FOR PRESIDENT. Mr. Van Allen on the Straight-Out Movement. Repeal of the Constitutional Amendments. The Louisville Convention to Name the Next President and Vice President and Close Up the Bloody Chasm. A HBRALD reporter yesterday waited on John J, Van Allen, of Watkina, N. ¥., who is now in this city, to make inquiries concerming the straight-out democratic movement. After explaining his ob- ject, the reporter askeal, “Will you give me such information as you have in regard to the origin of the straight-out democratic movement?” To this Mr, Van Alien, who is a lawyer, replied substantially as followe:— At the time the State Democratic Convention ‘was held in Rochester, on the 15th of May last, seeing indications of Greeley’s endorsement by that Con- vention, I attended it for the purpose of exerting what influence I had to prevent such action, know- ing that there wasa strong element of the democ- racy who never would consent to support Mr. Greeley if nominated and that his nomination ‘would effect the complete dissolution of the demo- cratic party. While there I made the very best fightin my power to prevent his endorsement, and what I considered to be the suicide of my party. I gave notice to delegates as they arrived that in case they persisted-in enforcing his nomina- tion another convention would be called and democratic candidates would be placed in the field upon 4 democratic platform. Whether my oppo- sition was effective 1 am unable to say, but his nomination was not endorsed. Yet such unmis- takable indications were given by the Convention in the selection:of their oficers and delegates to the National Convention as left no doubt respect- ing their final action. In an interview with a reporter of the Hrnatp, published on thé day of the Rochester Convention, I truly said that. a large majority of the honest thinking men in the democratic party felt greatly embittered against Greeley, and would not support him if nominated, My statement was scoffed at at the time as being the expression of one too deeply prejudiced to speak truthfully and correctly of the real situation; but the full force of the truth of my remarks will be vindicated so soon as the People, the honest voters, have an opportunity to be heard, ablication referred to in the HERALD Called the attention of some of my honest democratic friends of this city to my position and views, and a movement was soon after started in this city, at the head of which was Mr. J. R. Flanders, in order to make the opposition to Mr. Greeley’s nomination at Baltimore effective. A meeting was held, n which several other States wero represented by able, rave and true democrats, and an organization formed, of which Judge Flanders was made Chair- man and myself Secretary, in order to cali 8 con- ference of Buch democrats as would not support Greeley If nominated, to assemble at Baltimore and take such action as might be deemed proper in order to pi ie complete overthrow and destruction of the democratic party, We afterwards issued our circulars, and in this connection # strange coincidence occurred. the same day Judge Flanders and myself issned our manifesto, Colonel Blatiton Duncan, of Louisville, Ky., issued one of the same character, we having had no conference with him and knowing noth- ing of his intentions, og he of ours, After learning what Mr. Duncan had done we put ourselves in correspondence with him, and we have since acted together. Our circulars having been issued at a Int a. and owing to the confusion and diversity of opinion amongst democrats in con- sequence of the Grecley movement, I confeas we were all of us greatly disappointed at the smaliness of the numbers who responded to our call for the conference at Baltimore. We had, however, many letters from most of the States in the Union favor- ing our movement. Yet there were not altogether more than fifteen or sixteen States represented, and some of those only by one or two delegates, We only asked of the regular Democratic National Convention that they should give us democratic candidates of thelr own choosing, upon a democratic platform, and we would be content to give them our most hearty support whoever they might be. Our de- mand was refused, and immediately after the nomination of Mr. Greeley our conference issued an address to the democracy of the United States call- ing the Louisville Convention for the purpose of accomplishing what we assert the other Conven- tion failed to do. In order to carry out our pur- | pose and to send delegates to Louisville, on the motion of Colonel Duncan it was resolved that a committee be LH aide consisting of one mem- | ber from each State and Territory. Golonel Dun- | can was appointed for Kentucky, and myself the member from the State of New York. This ex- plains what each of us has to do with the organiza- | tion of this Convention. | Reronrer—What success have your labors met with ? Mr. VAN ALLEN—So far as I myself am concerned I bave worked almost invessantly since my appoint- ment, and, under the circumstances, with good suc- cess. The great amount of labor required to | 01 this movement could hardly be appreci- ated by one who has no such experience. The | nomination of Mr, Greeley had the effect to throw the democratic party into @ chaotic mass, The po- sition taken by the members of the old party is re- Markable. Some of the most sound hardsheils heretofore are now Mr. Grecley's most enthusiastic supporters, and therefore I have been at a loss to know who to a) to for assistance as 80 many of | my former friends who have co-operated with me in years gone by! find giv pe he gold shoulder anda frown whén asked to join in this movement. | Tt is this fact that has given Mr. Greeley so much | supposed strength and which has 80 greatly de- | ceived the people. Our strength lies With ; the commercial and laboring men, are ; Mot seeking or expecting Office, not | professional Boestcieumae an quiet class who pursue | their daily labors without often referring to politi- | Cal subjects. With this class we have great and substantial strength, and when developed, after our ticket is put into the field, it will demonstrate itself in such @ manner as to surprise and astonish my-former political friends, who are now howling #o loud for Greeley. In order to bring out this Bt so far as we have already done we have | beem obliged to find one or two men ‘ in a town or county, and around that ga | Who are in sympathy with us. In some localities | we have a large majority of the democratic voters, | as ts shown by a protest 1 issued, in which the siguers were pledged under no circumstances to yote for Mr. Greeley, but to support a straight-out | democratic ticket when nominated. Ind any who refused to the protest and are counted as | Supporters of Gree! assert their disposition | to vote the ht ticket when nominated, ve | been rorya laily for the two months past many | letters, ip ich “I am assured by tie writers | that under no circumstances will a large jortion | | of the democrats In their respective localities vote | for cither Greeley or Grant, and so bitter is the ression running through those letters against ic Baltimore treason,’ ag most of them term it, to show the entire im various p early or quite every count, ‘as from Giany oe ‘ine otter of in it, a8 well tates of he Union. In some ities in Michigan I am assured by responsible parties that Mr. Greeley cannot poll one-tenth of the democratic vote, his only strength being with the leaders, who have no followers, In many parts of linois, Indiana and Ohio the feeling manifested by these letters is bitter inthe extreme. I find im your dwn city a very large element of the same ‘class, besides a silent class, who have not yet expressed their gremrenee, but who are looking anxiously to Louisville for relief, having no confidence in elther Grant or Greeley; and in case we make a judicious nomination, as we expect to do, the amount of our strength here will surprise the Nth clans. I have letters from many of the which the — writers Southern States in concede the terrible oppression under which they gt is caused by are now laboring, whic! Mi f the negro to a status the atte ‘ation o! even abowe that of the whites. Many of my cor- respondents who were at first inclined to vote for Mr. Greeley, publication of Senator Sum- ners, letter to the negroes, are satisfied that the: Will get no relieg, byt will tarp anite a8 bad, Mf no Worse, in the hands of Mr. Gracley than in those of oes 7p session, nee wong on through pe ithern }, ies mi eciat ticlans the af my ca Teel ce 3 therefore, from in our labors have been ef- ae! of the most et able character will come from the Southern as well aa Northern States, the a | embarrass- ments under which we have labored. | receive let- tersfiom Colonel Duncan juently assuring me that the outlook is most cheerful; and, indeed, I letters from other members of the com! the whole I am satisfied that we shall have a very large and enthusiastic Convention. In your judgment what will be the eee Platform presented by the Louisville Purely democratic, unencumbered departures” or other ‘‘isms.” It will the old, well-established doctrine of State and will pledge the democracy to such a cerning the collection of revenue ag will rocious free trader. In svg th view T admit that it is expressive of my own idea: Yet L understand so well the position of sound dem- ocrats everywhere that 1 cannot be mistaken when I gay their views will concur with my own, RTE! Brey will your Convention treat the a LLEN—I am unable to say definitely; but this T can contidently assert, that they all ee In te opinion that the various so-called amendments to the Constitution are absolutely null ahd void; that their pretended passage was a political as Well a8 4 national crime, aud we will not recog- mize them as Pndiag unless the Supreme Court of the United States, when tion of their pelalaite is fairly presented, declare id, We regard this uestion as one of vital practical importance, as the despotism under which the Southern States are now groaning 1s caused by the efforts of the gov- ernment to enforce them: The carpet-baggers and mischief-makers, Who control the hegroes, would be driven out and their occupation gone in the event of the abrogation of these amendments, and that country again restored to peace and plenty, But in the event of their continuance 1 fear the worst consequences, as the negroes are already beers 80 arrogant as to render thelr conduct unbearable, and must ultimately culminate in a war between the races, It was shown by the teati- Banka euch, GME Cs"er sk tt tee, of wi jon. . COX, Of in South Carolina it democrati the ques- was a member, that alre: % me ft sin comse uence Es “armed with eting, bayonets placed in'thelr handa by this bag government, assembling and overawing in attendance. In the minority Lo lak signed by Mr. Cox and some eight others of the committee, it ia asserted that ine_passage of these amendments ‘Was a great political crime, and J but follow the expressions of that report when I say that ther continued enforcement must culminate ina war pe “a Hi sh rh his IRTER—Have those who are on t movement potted pot canada et ety as ALLEN—I cannot say real ve 5 et there is one Balvareal cry from the people are in sympathy with the movement for Charles O'Conor as out candidate for President. You have no be sir, of the popu- larity of that man, His great ty, pare charac- ter and unimpeachable Eovearity commend him to them at this time of demoralization consequent upon the late war. The people have been 60 basely robbed by their public servants, not only those having the affairs of the nation in charge, but as. well in States, counties and municipalities, that it causes them to yearn for that pure govern- ment which his election would insure, Tho manner in which he has followed those Tammany thieves in pang own city, and the infagging zeal with which he a8 hunted them out and driven them to that disgrace they so richly deserved, has induced the people to cast their eyes upon him as the Moses Who ts to lead them out. of the crime and corruption which are festering and rotting everywhere 1p my judgment, and I think I am prepared to speak in- telligently upon that subject, his nomination would. throw this country into one blaze of enthusiasm that would sweep through evory State like a whirl- wind, As to @ candidate for Vice President, T as- sume that he will be a Southern man of parity of character—either Alexander H. Stephens, of Geor- ia, or some other well-known statesman of the uth, What 1 have to about candidates I way speaking from my own ju ent as well as that. of my many correspondents and the expression of the people wherever I go, RgronteR—Vo you think such a ticket as you propose would win ? VAN ALLEN—Indeed, I do. The people of the county scem to be anxions, both in the North and South, to shake hands and make up all differences with each other. This is proposed to be done by the Greeleyites, and seems to be the card upon which they expect to win. I cannot, however, sce the sincerity of it when they nominate as candi- dates two life-long abolitionists of the most radical character, whereas ours will be a genuine shaking of hands over a chasm}; for by oe up one who was engaged in the Confederate cause we give a practical exhibition of our magnanimity and sin- cerity, and with this we think we can give ® more hearty shake than the Greeleyites can with their two abolition candidates. RerortsR—Do you think all the States will be fully represented in your Convention ? ‘AN ALLEN—From all the information I can lice} I think they will. Some ofthe New England tates may not send full delegations. This is owing, however, to the mat embarrassments we have been lavoring under, We have the entire press of New York State sreareas inst us, with one or two exceptions. We have mn Most outrageously assailed by the press and this movement has been ly chi 1 as being in the interest of Grant. We have been charged with being hirelinga of the Giant administration, without aby proof whatever being furnished to make good the charge. There seems to be a systematic effort to assall the politi- eal record of Colonel Duncan, and chai that he is the convention that ia to be held, Mr. Duncan 1s only one man, and I believe 8 gentleman, but whether he has been a whtg some portion of his life matters not. He assumes to be a democrat now, and! believe him to be honest tn this movement. Theretore I cannot see how it should suffer in consequence of his not having been all his life a democrat. I believe the political record of neither of the members of the committee who posses the same power as himself has or can be successfully assailed. Their lives have been dedicated to the cause in which they engaged. I see it charged In the HeRALp of to-day, by ‘a spe- cial telegraphic despatch from Washington, thatour documents have becn tranked from Washington. cannot see how this can be, a8 no member of the committee resides at or near Weskingiow, and if so I certainly have no ‘nowledge of the fact. I know I nave paid in full every cent of the postage upon every letter and document I have sent, and I presume the other members of the com- mittee have done the same. The charge was made by the Buffalo Courier that the expenses of a dele- gate from that section of the state to the Baltimore Conierence was paid by the Grant committee, know that was an infamous falsehood, without any foundation in fact, as there was no such delegate in attendance. There were only six or eight gen- tlemen there from this State,and J know they went of their own volition and paid their own expenses, ‘These assaults, notwithstanding their entire falsity, have tended to embarass us, but upon the whole 1 think the States generally will be pretty well represented, even New England. I have labored hard and sacrificed much in this cause. I believe it to be just and that I am casting, my bread upon the waters and after many days it will return in the shape of good government and last- ing benefit to my country. I expect no pecuniary or other reward save the consciousness of having discharged a duty I owe to my country and its people, and I believe the other gentlemen who are suger with me feel the same satisfaction I do, notwithstanding their labor and sacrifices. Arrangements have been made by which New York city will be fully and ably represented in the Convention. The following ia the address iasned by the origina- tors of the Bourbon movement in this State :— DEMOCRATIC ADDRESS. To mer Dewocracy oF tux State or New Yorn :— ‘The fact that the delegates sent by you to the late Balti- more Convention, acting in conjunction with those of other States, adopted the platform and candidates of a previous Radical Republican Convention, without change Premendadion, has passed into history. were torn down: oe’, this act the bal warks of democracy were torn d e principles 60 struggled for by its patriotic an. faithful followers surrendered A fis hither Hobie old flag, under which democrats were proud to march in the hour of defeat as well as victory, furled, trampled in the dust, ‘and covered all over with infam; y, race. jour of our peril, when traitorous assassins At this of demoer complacently and Somphanily watching Its final ution, & mr band of brave men— $ “Poos to tyrants, bat their country’s friend,” came to the rese the flag so cowardl ayed, game. the reccapmaber be one 6 mary peti eyat. c nb incorruptible democracy, f the lion heart—who ‘love their country more fice—as Moses is of of iderness, and bid them again Believing democracy to be based upon the eternal principles ot truth iid Justice, they were tinpelled to Gall upon their brethren to meet in'a delegated cor tion, to be held at Louisville, Ky., on the 3d day of Sep- tember next, I) put in non oH candidates worth their support for President and Vice P lent, and ain rear anew tts bulwarks so ruthlessly destroyed. again Tier to erganize. our broken ranks, ard ace. tha delegates are sent to Louisville, a temporary executive Ittee, consisting of one member from each State * pt” wan pppointed of which the subseriber is e mper a While Nice the trast thas rey osed, I deere, to bie from \avermeddling with the ren in the xarjoes counties gf em the duty to consult action of my political bret! the State, save to urge upon with ch other, agree upon coul \ttees, gail’ their convestions, elect aelenaten touhele Congres sional district conventions: c: of the several counties embrace in thetr fective Sou gressional dietricta, and e $ gates and fre iternates to the in enc] 1 appeal to vend ny del convent n ite other a than brave, true nen, God h loes the true democrat who has Gravely somtranted mobs ndured many perpcetions for hig righteousness f wolves in sheep's clothing.” encumbered by such, as this ts pure! if yr its ‘bleet that True “new departures,’ g the ndininiatrati rent to all that, upon this forces, marching forward steadily and Teierch ‘up se toy bee Yous bs our fathers will be transunitted to \hose among which are prosperity, justice a nvention of the Cinarvesto or "gaat from: the peo > rnee of tho Bald: onventton, having for reform to be ponred, mi by ie abandonment of all mminfstered by the fathers ot aueparty. “itntust be appa: Tt mn 7 at” Bw a mate success 1s assu: y uniting our hi to the old tunes of democracy victory ts sure nour banner, and the priceless | Tho come after iis wi I the accompanying attributes, are | ood will to ail The Louisvil mntion is to be a Cor $= ACY, aot fo Reveantrlled by an; mF or ring. e Ue haere alan cae who feel so deeply the odiam a1 eg MOTO WRB are determined to w 3- — rr “a Aan A, , thely skirts, Their flag is n lie!” Tt shall not be called “hate's . ut be borne z ite pomaneney: on yd nae it must not rr polluted by such dastard hands, t us now, by one united effort, march in solid pha- lanx to the tron es again patie for cause of honor, truth, Ifberty and democracy. Ae) 10" yw by our oum- bers and our determination i intain our rights and reserve our principles that t de hi but shall he we prinine Bright ested that democrats co! in these views ‘iitend at Loulectiie on the day of the Convene on to give thelr moral support, ag well as to it members any deficlenvy that may occur a OUNT, VAN ALLEN, Member U8. State / . , Membe: 5 cratic Executive Committee for the State of New York. Warxins, August N. B-The Louisville: Convention js to be held on Tues. jot yet depa ness, Itis ersonall day, Bept ial th ai be , Beptemi and there wi no Del gates should lected (n time, 80 88 early as the Mond e Tf from all’ BAEK. dt ala ahi the ante the most able and pure men of our party. Let New York her whole duty and uot leave one disiriet unrepresented. Avaust 19, JOHN J. VAN IN. NEW JERSEY BOURBON DEMOORAOY. A convention of stiaight-out democrats of New Jersey will be held at Taylor Hall, in Trenton, at noon to-morrow, to select delegates to attend the National Convention, at Louisville, Ky., September The National Committee issues the following call to’ every district in New Jersey, with @ request that immediate steps be taken to elect delegates: — To Tne Democratic VOTERS OF New JERSBY— The action of the Baltimore Convention has Placed the democratic ee and democratic prin- ciples in imminent peril. If a federalist, a latftu- dinarian constructionist, a protectionist, a monop- olist, especially one who has life long. eld these convictions and stilt holds them; ifthe bitterest and still unchanged enemy of the democratic pees is to become its recognized and official eader; then has it been stricken with judicial blind- hess, which will end in ruin. To rescue the party and its principles from this impending fate, aloft the old Jacksonian ban- ner, to rally the tried and true men of the demo- cracy and to maintain all its sacred principles in their integrity, the undersigned, democrate of New Jersey, do hereby call @ mass convent of all democrats opposed to the election of Horace Greeley to assemble at Taylor Hall, in the of Trenton, on Roemer, An it 24, at twelve o'clock teen eee adam Hae yy er “demo™ crat ites ir ncy and Vice Presi- dency, and to make a State electoral ticket for the coming campaiga. THE POLITICAL RENDEZVOUSES. — “ The Liberal Headquarters. Mr. Jasper H. Johnson had full charge of the’ Gienham Hotel Headquarters yesterday, and mat- ters went on an usual, an immense amonnt of bustle, and possibly a corresponding amount of, work. The seven colored mon are still lingering about headquarters, waiting for work or money. One of them became wrothy yesterday and stid he: did not come here for money but for patriotism. At present the independent seven make themselves. as comfortable as possible, lounging about the sofas, cocking their heels at the Fifth avenue windows and smoking their cigars with all the sublime tnaouciance that characterizes a newly made free American citizen, each fecling himself to be a yaluable addition to the Greeley party, and not) comprehending for a moment that he is an expeq-| sive or uncomfortable one, Among the distin. ees visitors yesterday were John W. Frazster, delphia; Major John T. Harrold, New York, anc @. H. Leer of Baltimore, The following are extracts from letters received :— A gentleman writes from Topeka, Kansas, that “the excitement in favor of Greeley 1s intense. Of the above-named gentlemen, of, the Liberal Repub- Hcan Committee three are now republican ofice holdera and all but two are original republicans. Our Greeley Club has 518 members, of whom 300 are original republicans. I have never seen such ex- citement since 1840." Another writes as follows from Ravenna, Portage cogaty, Coe August 20, 1872:—‘This county was the old home of Jesse Grant, and his connection with the Methodist Church has ‘covered a multitude of sins’ for Ulysses and given the Grant family lary influence. fe have formed several Greeley clul in neighboring townships, and in this village we have one of nearly 300 members, with very consid- erable numbers from men who formerly supported the Grant party.” The Regular Republican Headquarters. Silent and effective work was going on yesterday in the regular Republican Headquarters at the Fifth Avenue Hotel, apparently, for there wer@no crowd and no bustle. Not a visitor of note was registered, and the single clerk, who was buried in work at the desk in the rear room, had not an item of news for the inquiring mind, Chandler is still in Philadel. phia, and in the absence of his organizing and directing head the gorgcous headquartors, with its rich flower garden blooming at the Twenty-third street windows, looked more like a fowery tomb than a lve campaign headquarters. The Democratic Headquarters in the Spingler Tlouse were as attractive as usual yesterday. Among those who called were Judge Comstock, of Tene General B. C. Walthall and Colonel T. . White, of Mississippt; Judge Spencer and a dele- gation of Irish editors from the West, General Walthall is a representative man of Mis- sissippt and heads the electoral ticket of that State. The work of the campaign is golng on briskly in that State, and there is no apprehension felt of the result. The work of organizing ts going on satis factorily in ali parts of the State. TRE COMING DEMONSTRATION. The Executive Committee, charged with making’ arrangements for the coming Greeley and Brown demonstration, met again at Tammany Hall yester+ day to hear reports and report progress, Algernon 8, Sullivan in the chair. The committees on Fire- works, Speaking Stands, Halls, Lanterns, Torch- Nght Processions and the lke ‘all reported prog- ress, while the Committee on Invitations to Speakers, through Mr. Sullivan, stated a number of additional names had been added to the list pub- lished in the HERALD yesterday, and that among others Dr. Houard, the liberated prisoner of Cuba, had been invited and had consented to address the meeting. He will tell in person the story of his wrongs, and the Cuban flag will fy high in the bouquet of banners, o*, POLITICAL CAMPAIGN NOTES. Some of the Greeley papers are anxious to make the franking privilege an issue of the campaign. Seven State conventions have been held this year in Louisiana, and four State tickets are up for the voters to choose from. The Cleveland Herald says that Greeley writes thirty lette: day, but as nobody can read them they will be harmless against him. ' There are but two ex-Presidents living—Andrew Johnson and Millard Fillmore, Both were clected in opposition to the democracy, and both are now for Greeley. The Prairie du Chien (Wis.) Courter has hoisted the names of Charies O’Conor, of New York, for President, and J. Proctor Knott, of Kentucky, for Vice President. \ It used to be a saying in former Presidential cam- paigns that ‘as Pennsylvania goes in her October election so goes the Union in November.” It looks oe as if the democrats bad the best of it in that tate, ) Every Congressional district in Indiana wili be represented at the Louisville Democratic Bolters’ National Convention. 1t 1s aaid that in some of the districts it took the entire strength of the party to form the delegation, j The Boston Traveller has reliable information from New Hampshire which warrants it in saying that “the State of his birth will give Mr. Gree- Wy. the same endorsement in November that the State of his better half did in August.’’ Wednesday, the 4th of September, will be a great day for State conventions. The republicans of Kansas, Miseouri and Tsnuesseo will meet on that day to arrai for the fall elections, and the demo- crats and liberal republicans of New York have — " the same day on which to nominate a State cke' There is a man in Waterville, N. H., who an- nounces his determination to support Greeley be- cause he thinks the $100,000 in Confederate bonds which he holds will become valuable if Greeley ia elected, That man will pro! be an tomate of some lunatic asylum before the day of election and his vote will be lost. } Astraight-out Louisville democratic convention was heidin Wayne county, Michigan, last week. Jt was composed of just six delegates, They nomi~ nated @ ticket comprising twelve Coreg MOTE on the following day nine of them publicly declined the honor, and stated that they should support the Baltimore candidates. \ The Philadelphia Press, in an article under the head of “Can Greeley Be ed says:—“The election of L Greeley will remove from the fleld of Journalism the most brilliant and forcible editorial writer in America, and silence, perhaps forever, our most popular and effective advocate of protec- tion to native industry. 4 Gerrit Smith, says the Albany Argus, goes for Grant, but he does not seem to have much influence even with his own family. His son, Greene Smith, is President of a Greeley and Brown club at Smith- field, Madison county, Gerrit H. Smith, a nephew, is President of a Greeley and Brown club at Geneva. John Cochrane, also a nephew of the erratic Gerrit, is Chairman of the Liberal Republican State Com-