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NEW ¥ORK HERALD, FRIDAY, AUGUST 16, 187 INDIANA. What the Fight Really Is Struggle for Life or Death, ‘Between Hendricks and, Morton. ——_—-——_ Repobliean Quarrels and Republi- ean Rascality. SENATOR MORTON AND HIS PARTY THE LIBERAL REPUBLICANS. “Have We Many Bourbons Among Us?” TWE TALL SYCAMORE OF THE WABASH, Senator Wilson’s Tour of the be State. a THE RACE A VERY CLOSE ONE. INDIANAPOLIS, August 10, 1872, ‘The canvass in this State has begun in earnest, and though there ts really a great deal of apathy at the heart of political fepling throughout the country, uch earnest work ag has been going on for the last fortnight cannot fail to elicit much active interest. ‘The Jeaders on both sides are awake to the impor- tance of the State campaign, because of the effect the Uctober election is likely to have on the Prest- ential contest. ide from the Presidency, how- ever, there is enough in the State canvass to make matters lively jp the dullest times. A Governor is to de elected and a Legislature chosen which will hoid in its keep the making of a United States Senator. A whole delegation in Congress, with two ef Indiana’s went Congressmen, Michael C. Kerr on the part of the democrats and Willlam Williams of the reppblicans, besides two others almost as ‘well known—John 8. Williams (democrat) and Godlove 8, Orth (republican) as candidates at large, are to be selected. On both sides the leading men in the Forty-second Congress, Holman, Coburn, Voor- hheea, Shanks, Niblack, Packard and others are in the Geld. In some respects the democrats have the adyantage in fighting strength. Hendricks is host In himself. Cravens, the candidate for Lieu- tenant Governor, has always been a republican and wan be persuasive among bis old party associates. Jalian, with a more doubtful record, because of a tendency to chronic candidacy, can also do some- thing in the same direction. And then Kerr, a ‘sincere man with a pure and earnest record in Con- gress, in the larger field which makes the whole Btate his constituency, is able to add to his influ- noe by making himself heard outside of the old Second district, On tho other hand the republicans are not lacking in power and earnestness, Morton # & match for Hendricks on the @ump and more ‘than his match in what is generally called “organ- isation.” General Tom Browne, the republican e@andidate for Governor, can and does make @peeches, and his friends call them ‘rousing wpeeches.” Judge Orth, one of the candi- dates at large for Congress, is a man who commands respect at home and abroad. ‘Others of the candidates are able to talk to the people, and last, but not least, Vice President Col- fax gives out that ho is still for the party, and by an occasional “quiet talk to his neighbors and friends” he manages to make himself felt through- ut the State. Aside from this home strength, ‘which is of an ability and power on both sides not surpassed by any State in the Union, speakers from other parts of the country will take part in the eanvass. Senator Wilson has already made a tour Of the State, talking himself hoarse in behalf of the ticket of which he Is an appendage, and suffering @uch petty annoyances as being called ‘Jerry Col” Daith”’ by the democratic press. Senator Schurz is coming in a few days, and he is likely to use his tonslis quite as outrageously and to be abused in @ome way equally delicate by his recent republican admirers. All this tends to make the canvass an interesting and exciting one, and naturally directs attention to what is TIE REAL CONTEST IN THE STATE. Indiana is not an exception to the States which have interests of a mere local character bigger than the Presidency itself. In this State every- body is measuring the relative bigness of Hen- @ricks and Morton; and the real contest is as to which of them shall be Senator and which ex- Senator after the 4th of next March. Hendricks’ stake isa vigone, for if his party should fail in October, a contingency which no leading democrat that I have seen contemplates as possible, the failure would directly deprive him of the Guberna™ torial chair, and a Senatorial chair if he wants it, and indirectly of the Presidential chair, which he certainly wants. But with Morton the stake is even a greater one, for success or failure now is political life or death to him. Hendricks might b come President in spite of tatlure in this canvass ‘ut for Morton there can be no future after dis- aster in October. In consequence of the delicacy of the position held by these men—both able, both alert, both ready in speech and ready in re- sources, and both feeling that they stand ever an abyss into which one or the other must fall—they are not leaviug @ stone un- turned to compass success. The contest between Grant and Greeley sinks into insignificance before @ contest between two men who are more to In- diana than either Grant or Greeley. Morton could afford to set up Tom Browne—a man unknown out- side of the State and not very strong 4m the State or in himself—as @ candl- Gate against Hendricks for Governor, for he ‘well knew that nobody would mistake the true character of the contest, Everybody understood ‘that it was Hendricks he was compelled to fight, ‘and that be might as well set up a puppet as a man against him, just as everybody will understand that tam case of success Hendricks may refrain from going “back to the Senate by setting up a puppet against Morton, and reserve his own strength for the Pres- Adeacy, four years hence. 1% is one of the phenom- -onaof American politics for a great Presidential -Oanvasa like this, in a great State like Indiana, to ‘be narrowed down to the personal ambition of two ‘meeg,,and a most singular phase of a contest 30 eminontly persona, is the fact that the personal enemies of both are generally found openly work- ing or scoretly co-operating with their own ancient Political foes. A gentleman said to me at the Gempcratic headquarters yesterday, that nearly ail ‘of the Fepablicans who have been opposed to Mor- ‘ton are now liberals and, of course, co-operating with the democrats. ‘This is a fact which, more ‘than anything.clee, serves to point out THE FRUD WINICH DIVIDES THU GTATE. Republican feuds in Indiana meap simply hostil- ity to Morton, just.asin Michigan they mean op- position to Chandler, in Pennaylvania opposition to Camcron and in New York opposition to Conkling; and none of the others can provoke a livelier dia. like in their respective States than this Indiania dictator in his own realm. He isa mag who will Not allow another Kichmoud in the field sith him. While héa own ambition is boundless he seta bounds & the ambition of other men, and they walk out of the way appointed wr them at their peril, liver P. Morton always Insists upon playing the Arst violin himself and ull others must be cousent to be second fiddle to hint. At the saine time it must be confessed that. as a leader, he 1s acldom at fault, is talents are cqual to those of any man in the Senate, and his will Is as strong snd his resolu- tion as dogged as Sumner's. Me ig more hated and, eeert more feared tha’a any man in that body, and he did not come to it ¢ stranger to the coun: try. Asa Gen “war Governor” his fame ex- fended far beyond the Jimitw of his own State, His strength and his arrogance were hoth known before he quitted one piace for the other, and it ly rose itself oe make him eae and the arrogance he used his power is due the life-long enmity George W. J who in this contest is upper- most as his bitterest and most unrelenting foe, JULIAN AND MORTON. can pai Pie attiee and started’ with ® cal condi cred of ouel oxneh. | Jullan was first a ry jocrat, an came a Tepabiican ata tme so early tat he claims 40 be one of the fathers, if Morton was in the not the father, of the iy ing & pro-siavery demo- Ry ne Se ee i ba acute dean tie aoe he! act page ir italy tivelt andy alalike did not ripen into love, and there was scarcely ever a truce between the: Julian went to Congress as the war cloud but Morton became Governor of the State. grew strong in his district, and it was sais as it was alterwards said of Schurz ip nd of in red, e One him, other seemed to at bis will, He and al abe pe = and re Were not. always e purest, an walle hie frienda were generally true fa him they were sometimes untrue to the State. Some of them receivea unmerited promotion, while Jnitan’s meritorious friends were overloo! thers, and anon them Morton’s brother-n- '. Holloway, now Postmaster of this city, dipped their hands deep into the treasury of the State. | have heard not! even in Indiana, which will impugn the Senator's honesty; but I was shown some of Holloway’s vouchers a8 State Printer which would disgrace a Tammany thief. These documents aro are en file in the te Auditor's office, and they bear the evidences of fraud on thelr face, The frauds were mostly committed in the purchase of prin paper bought for the State, and the ‘mount wrongfully taken by Holloway and his im- inediate Seats ato pag Conner, AA, per a . In many cases transonibede from Holloway’s Own books were altered after the..bilis were rendered, and the quantity of urchased and the price both in- creased before Payinent, The erasures are very pa and in some Instances even the original text Pi faceable. A few of them were sworn to weeks before the date they bear, and one of Copner’s was pe for payment months before he had the hardl- he to demand that it should be paid. In many other respects these bear th id meee or the clr true character but ar the evidences of thelr true i they were #0 successfully imposed upon the ‘Bate officials that even ® democratic State printer imitated them, ih he was and then excused, of course, on the that he had only drawn the money before purchased the Nothing is said by the democrats concerning thia transaction of their State Printer, and it is doubtful if the republicans knew much about it At any rate the latter er. would not be lik to speak of it pub- licly, a8 any jusion «=O it would only provoke exposures of Morton’s frtends which could not fail to be very unsatisfac- tory to Morton, As it is some very pointed refer- ences are made to Holloway’s transactions, though nothing like an analysis of his dealings with the State has been attempted, There can be no ques- tion that these things maye done Morton great injury. The frauds of hia friends, suspected and discovered, served to embitter his enemies, and Jullan and the faction which Jullan lead found in these operations and in Morton's general bearing and conduct causes for dissatisfaction almost as ‘ievous as those they alleged egainst Grant’s ad- ministration, MORE FEUDS—THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNORSHIP. The political disappomtments of republican lead- ers are among the chief elements tn the feuds which divide the State. Notwithstanding most of Morton’s enemies are now openly against him the present canvass cannot fall to produce a fresh crop of quarrels which may result in dividing both parties. 1 have the guthority of a candidate on the repnblican ticket for say. | opened his Hoosier ing that Cravens, the liberal-democratic cau- didate for Lieutenant Governor, only turned against the radicals when he failed to get a nomi- nation from the radical party. How this may be cannot say, but it ts certain he was always hostile to Morton, and.he was s0 assuredly put down as a “gorehead” that the radicals tried to Sppeere him by mal him an elector at Iarge bs he re- fused and the democrats gave him the place on their ticket which De Paw declined. De Paw is one of the richest, if not the richest man in the State, and bis candidacy would bave given great atrength to Hendricks, for his popularity counts for ag much as hismoney. The democrats biame the Methodists for inducing him to decline, Dc Paw being a leading man among that denomination, and it Is not unlikely that some such influence was used to wd him out of the canvass. However this may his retirement opens the way for freah dissensions and weakens the ticket, though the latter is stronger as it stands in every way than the ticket put In nomination by the radicals, WHAT 18 THE LIBERAL STRENGTH ? I have been over nearly the whole State, and wherever I went 1 inquired into the liberal strength. Nowhere did | gct a satisfactory answer, or one u] which anything like an estimate can be based, At the headquarters of the Democratic State Central Committce in this city the number is estimated at about three liberal republicans to a township, ‘This looks like a fair average, but there is nothing ike an avalanche in this. r. Jullan oints to & much ater strength, and declares th publicly and privately that there are 1,000 liberals in hus district alone. The republicaus, of course, repudiate this utterly; but the democrats put a good deal of faith in it, because of Julian’s well-known accuracy in matters of this kind, Julian's estimate is based to some extent on his own supposed influence with the Quaker element. ‘This prove delusive, however, for itis said that at a public meeting a few days ago a Quaker sald to him, “Geouge, say speeches do pot sound as suey used to,” and that another, whom he specially invited to hear him, reproached him by sayi thee talks like a copper- “George, head.” .Grant’s Indian policy has been generally satisfactory to the Quakers, and this will probably keep most of them true to the republican party in spite of Julian’s influence. But wherever 1 went 1 found liberal republicans. In this city there area great many, an they are well organized. in the smaller towns everybody admits that this or that man has gone over to oie the Eyen republicans who are loudest In declaring that there ia no divi- sion in the republican ranks will tell you that a few sheep have gone out of the fold; but at the same time they contend that the recalcitrant repyplicans are equalled in number by the recalettrant demo- crats. There may be a good deal of truth in this, for even the democrats have a lively fear of THE INDIANA BOURSONS. When Dan Voorhees made his anti-Greeley speech in Congress he met with @ very large response in Indiana, and many of these men continued their opposition to the Philosopher after the Baltimore Convention as well as before it. An effort is made, and often with success, to bring them into the traces; but some of them will vote for Grant, and some will not vote at all. How teat there will he who will take the obstinate course it is impos- sible to say—the democrats say very few, indeed, and the republicans a great many, The radical leaders claim to have some very important infor- mation on this point and to know something about the “goings on” of the straight-oute which would aston! endricks and his friends, I met Senator Wilson on the cars after he had traversed the whole State and found him almost enthusiastic on this subject. The Loulsville Convention, he de- clares, will be a great and important movement, and he chuckles over it with ede And his trav- elling companion remarked, with @ wink, “If I could only tell you what I know of the old-fashioned democrats of Indiana l could tell you something.” Everything I saw and beard, both in democratio and repuolican circles, convinces me that there are a good many dissatisfied democrats in this State, but their number I am combelled to put in the ea lumbo of uncertainty as the lbera! repubit- cal DAN VO ORURES AT HOME, There is no-better evidence of Indiana Bourbon- ism than the repeated cails which are made upon the Tall Sycamore of the Wabash to “explain.” Voorhees js in & pecullar situation and iscompelled to justify his double course to both the elements of his own party. It must be said for him, however, | that he nnds something very ike happiness in his resent awkward situation. No mau understands tter all the little arts of the politician, and on the stump, among lis own people, he is a power. He thoroughly appreciates tue Western character, and he takes pleasure in bmn to and controlling the rude element whicl has already given him ten ears in Congress. ‘You ought to see Voorhees at jome and on the stump,” said one of his demo- | cratic friends to me, “for he is ablé to excite the laughter and the tears of the people.” He is one of the kind who make themselves thorougtily at home among.the people, and everybody, even his eue- mies, approach him familiarly when he is cam; ‘a - ing. One of his cid eupporters, now against im aud againet Greeley, went to h-ar him the other day, saying, ‘Daniel, we came to hear what,sou have to say for yourself before we part, for you and J cannot go together any longer.” ' “I have been-wanting tu sec you very much,” Voorhees.an- | ewered., “Before the election 1 am coming to see you, anil want to spend a night with you. You Must hear me speak to-day.” When the speaking tend seated himself in a con- 4@picuous piace and jan whittling @ big stick with greataleliberation, as if to say, ‘Daniel, you cannot i the woo! over my eyes."’ As the speech went ov the whittling became faster and faster, tl! it suddenly stupped altogether, and the tear’ dropa gatizored in the old man’s eyes, and when t Speaking was ended he grasped the statesman's eae Mey “Daniel, 1 ts all right.” Inch ie like ave not uvusual Inthe experience of the Tall Sycamore, and they slow & power ~the power of sophistry, ff you.will—which Jt is Do easy matter to overeome. And fhere is no politician in the State who Js so well known nor one whose 80 often on the lips.of friend and foe. in the ears 4 heard him discussed over and over again, In the mouths of repybiicans these discussions are sometimes very funny. On one occasion three Grant men were seated 0} ite me. No. 1 opened the conversation hy remar! ng. “Old Dan Voorhees came round ab right.” Then there wae a very loud laugh, No. 2 responded, “He eat @ great deal of crow.” Then tjsere was another loud laugh, after which No. 8 took up the thread of the diseow by saying “Yes, He fret thought Grecicy o great deal worse man than G he laugh at the laet re- mark Was “immense.” Few men @te more open 40 attack than Voorhgs, eapectally on jis yotes jor the Goat Island and other pong yi te of. the sneers of his enemies, and spite solid reasoning, he i¢ @ match at home for any of his and can hold his district as long as he desires resent phe Congress. Speaking of Voorhees me THE RIVAL CONGRESS TICKETS are now In the fleld all over the State. Both par- ties have completed their nominations, the tickets being as follows :— STATE 4? LARGE. Democrats and Liberals, Michael ©. Kerr. John S, Williama, . to . James N, Tyner, John P. 0. Shanks. iH. B, Sayler. , iy ‘ard. liana delegation has been regarded as one of the ablest in Congress, and these lists are quite up to the old standard. Kerr, Niblack, Hol- man and Voorhees on the one Orth, Wil- Mams, Coburn and Shanks on the ‘other have always occupied important places im the House. Kerr le one of the most conscientious free-traders in the West, but he still works vigorously for the Cincin- nati platform and his own election on @ doubtful tariir plank Holman made a reputation second to none in the last session of Congress by his deter- mined hostility to the St. Croix and field and other jobs. Coburn and Shanks sustained their in.Co1 88 With their customary vigor, the rmer even dismissing the Clerk to nis committee for sympathy with the Greeley movement. All. these men be directly interested in the Vass makes it Cea lively, and never in the his- tory of politics has Indiana seen euch » stir among her politicians.. THE CANVABS, Everybody on cither ticket takes part in the speechmaking, Two or three meetings are to bo held In the diferent towns in the State during the oanvass and some places have as many as two meetings evory week. Hendricks makes a@ speech at Greencastie to-day, and he is announced to ak at Frankiin next Saturday, General Browne, his opponent, is talking wherever he can finda crowd, Cassius M. Clay and General John M. Har- lan, of Kentucky, both spend next week in the State—the former in belialf of the democrats and the latter Jor the republicans, Schurg is coming, and Wilson finishes his tour of the State to-day. Coming in at Richmond and going out at Fort Wayne, the republican candidate for Vice President met with something like an ovatton. Senator Wil- son ke twice each day, and this in itself, aside from the travel and the handshakings, was enough to wear him out. I met him on the train going from South Bend to Kendalisyille, and though he was tired then and oeeke too, he was not unhappy. Colfax bad just presided and introduced him to the “neighbors and friends,” of whom the Vice Presi- dent seems 80 proud. Crowds were waiting to see him at every station, though jt wasnear the middle of the night. In fact, the Senator seemed happy, and he was greeted with @ heartiness which meant that Thad only to look abroad and see the enthusiasm which the people show for Grant and Wilson, Senator Wilson has no doubt of Grant’s re-election, and expresses himacif as greatly surprised at the interest he everywhere finds, Nor has he any doubt of the result in Indiana, The Greciey move- ment, he nays, has gone as far forward as it was ossible for it to go, und Js now going backward. Ky the time of the election Senator Wilson thinks there will be nothing of it left except a part of the democratic party;+ but he is a little apt to be sanguine where hig feelings are interested, and he saw only the bright, not the dark side of Indiana. THE PROSPECTS IN THE STATE. What the resnit in the State may be {t is impossi- bie to predict. Both sides claim it with equal confidence. Mr. Hendricks has no doubt Bs of his election, nor has General Browne any Goubts of his, Mr. Kerr connts upon being one of the Congressmen at jorge as & certainty, and so do Judge Orth and Billy Williams. “This is a democratic State,” say the democrats, while the aed a De et aver that on @ full vote it i always republican. Two years ago the democrats hada ENory of 2,500 in the Stale, but the repubii- cans say that this was the result of apathy on thelr art. This time both sides will poll every vote, and he result mere calculation of chances. So far as I-can see they are with the republicans in Ooto- ber, but 0 slightly that only the future can deter- mine which side Of the scales will go up aud which odown. There is to be plenty of hard work, and ither side will die hard. Morton and Hendricks have so willed it, for the result is death to one or other of them. THE POLITICAL HEADQUARTERS. A Dall Day—Interesting Letters from Various Sections of the Country, The Liberal Headquarters. Very few visitors called at the Liberal Headquar- ters yesterday, and the correspondence was not 80 large as usual. Most of the constant calli:s of prominence are absent op the stump, and this probably accounts for the dull appearance that things are beginning to wear. Alettcr from Minnesota states that the Scan- dinavian population of the State can be easily in- duced to vote for Greeley, and that if the proper means are only taken, documents distributed to them in their own janguoge and speakers on whom they can rely be employed, there is no doubt but thelr suffrages can be secured. It is suggested that the starting of a Scandinavian newspaper would be a powerful auxiliary. An extract of a letter from Nuttersburg, Ohio, says:— Everything ts lovely here. I think there is not a demo- erat in the county who refuses to vote for Greeley, and quite a number of repablicans will support hi. county (Hole) will give Mr. Greeley the largest majority of any county In the Nurthern States In proportion to the 0 A letter received from Evansville, Ind., among other things, say: Will it be possible to have General Ranks tn Indianat ‘ople Are very anxious to hear him. Carl Sehure Dassiis M. mare to be here on the 16th, and wi people present. We are confident o carrying the State, but must work. The German repub- licans are aiding as finely. section of the State is largely German and we Keon them in the foreground. It Prould ald our canse greatly it we had Banks here. This Task if there 4s any possibility, If there are any German campaign upply would be desirab rr colored yote! gunized a Greeley club and it is rapidly incr ng in numbers. North Carolina not scared us muc! A letter from Minneapolis say: Tain anxious thata proper effort be State at the coming election. The demo port your nomination with unanimity and enth as Wat Wwanifested jn our State Convention, whi delegates to the Kalttmore Convention. The w man vote will be with us, and avery Jarge proportion of American republicans are co-operating with 1s wo or three active, Intelligent and able Nor- kers could be sent for about t confitent that better restilts would follow tha: gaine umount of efforts in any other direction. The few persons who called were not of any prom- inence. The Democratic Headquarters. ‘There was a constant rush of visitors to the Dem- ocratic Headquarters yesterday, and a number of letters were received from various parts of the country—Georgia, Indiana and Lovisiana—con- taining encouraging and interesting information. The Louisville Convention ts not regarded with any favor, and in a day or two developments are prom- Jsed which will prove that those in charge of the affair are acting in the interest of Grant, The Grant Headquarters. Atthe Grant Headquarters very little business, and the invariable reply to the reporters was that there was nothing to communicate. After the tem- pom excitement of Wednesday the work has set- own into its usual dulness, until something turns up to arouse the officials from their lethargy. BROOKLYN REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES, The Brooklyn republican primaries to elect dele- gates to the Assembly Conventions, which will ia ‘turn elect delegates to the State Convention, were held last evenii and were, generally speaking, tolerably quiet, though much feeling was ex- Pressed among the several contending Grant fac- tions. The delegates named by “the three as mag as Supervisor of Internal Revenue . B. Dutcher, Police Commissioner General Jourdan and istrict Attorney B. F. Tracey gre facetiously termed, are understood to have been successful in getting the highest num- ber of votes into the boxes. Trouble was antici- pated in the Sixth and Tenth wards, but nothing serious occurred there to mar the harmony of the faithful followers of the political fortungs of the hero of & hundred hotly contested fights for the Union. In the ‘Tenth ward @ disturbance was threatened for a time, because of the refusal of one of the inspectors to suly- mit the roll book to the inepection of a republican disputant when called yn to do so. The police stepped up promptly. ere was & large force on duty and. “squeiched” the trouble before ? sical force was resorted to. Captain Ferry, of the Third yecinct, Was struck by an overheated enthusiast jor Grant at the polling place of the Sixth ward. Be arrested his man and locked him up to await a hearing before Jdstice Delmar. BROOKLYN GREELEY MEETING. ‘The citizens of the Twentieth ward of Brooklyn who regard favorably the claims of the Chappaqua Farmer and Gratz Brown for the White House met last night at the corner of Carlton avenue and Myrtle, The meeting was calicd to order by Mr. Jobn Courtn nd William B, Lewis was declared Chairman, poke stromgly in advocacy of the claims of Horace upon the country at large, and THE COLORED VOTE. A Black and Belligerent Controversy at the Cooper Institute Last Night. SAUNDERS AND GARNET The Colored Champions of the Presidential @andidates and Their Wordy War, A TURBULENT AND NOISY ASSEMBLY. Grant and Garnet Enthusiastically Endorsed by the African Citi-o zens of New York. One of the most extraordinary meetings ever wit- essed in any city was held in the Cooper Institute last night. Four thousand colored people gathered together, notwithstanding the intense heat of the night, to listen to a discussion between the Rev. Henry Highland Garnet, of this city, and W. W. Saunders, of Baltimore, Ma, both colored, upon the relative merits and services of U. & Grant and Horace Greeley. The debate has been much talked of and jong considered, but after sundry disappointments and much correspondence the preliminaries were finally arranged. Oooper Institute was engaged, the expenses were guaran. teed, and the colored orators were afforded an op- portunity of talking the matter out, much to the satisfaction of the negroes in particular and the public generally, Saundcrs, who, when the task he has ondertaken to.convince @ half civilized people may be called the leader of the forlorn hope, espoused the canse ofGreeley, and Mr. Garnet the distinguished pas- tor of Shiloh Presbyterian church, had the much more congenial task of presenting the claims ef General Grant, toan audience who wero in enttre sympathy with him and his prigciptes. Long before the time announced for the opening of the meeting the great hall of the Cooper Insti- tute was crowded with such an audience as its walls have rarely contained. The great majority of the audience was colored, but a good sprinkling of white men were also present; some attracted by curiosity and thera who came for the purpose of cansing as much mischief as possidile, Thirty-first street sent a large delegation of its most aristocratic haditucs, South Fifth avenue had an overpowering dclega- tion present, and the classic precincts of Sullivan and Thompson streets, which usually know the African, knew him not last night. ‘The belies present presented a dazzling array of beauty, dress and fashion, the ladies, with admirable taste, gen- erally attiring themselves in spotless white, which formed a striking contrast to the glossy blackness of their complexions, On the platform might be seen an array of intel- lect, respectability and wealth, which was perfectly overpowering, comprising statesmen, clergymen, merchants and scholars, The distinguished colored men on the platform comprised Messrs. L, W. Titus, G. W. Francis, Dr. McDonagh, KE. V. U. Eaton, C. D. Francis, G. W. Myers, Dr. F. B. Ring, 8. Scottron, Joseph Da Costa, Gemp Washington, A. Montgomery, J. J. Firermann, Alexander Powell, W. J. Widgeons, Peter 8. Porter and many others. When eight o'clock came it was evident that the audience was entirely one-sided and that the liberal orator had not the slightest chance of getting a fair hearing, the feelings of the negroes being evidently Wrought up to the highest pitch of excitement by the influences which have been brought to bear upon them since the discussion was announced to come of, the narrow minds of the great majority present being evidently unable to comprehend what an orderly debate meant, Punctually to the hour the colored gladiators came upon the platform, amid enthusiastic cheer- ing for the Rev. Henry Highland Garnet. On the motion of the Rev. W. Butler the chair was taken by Mr. I. J. Yuille, cashier of the Freemasons’ Bank, a bullet-headed ndgro, who presided over the mect- ing with all the {oper ery it was possible to ex- ercise in an audience which acted ilke a gathering of Feejee Islanders, Mr. Hatton, a colleague of Saunders, was ap- pointed Secretary. The articles of discussion were read—whether the ascendency of the liberal repub- lican party and the election of Horace Greeley, or the re-election of General Grant, would be most conducive to the welfare of the country and the proper administration of justice, witl- out distinction of race, color or party. The chairman announced the terms of the discussion, an hour for Saunders in opening, an hour and @ half for Garnet in reply, and half an bour to Saun- ders to close. The rising of Saunders to make the opening ad- dress was the signal of a burst of hooting and yell- ing which would do credit to Pandemonfum, and the impression that a spectator would carry away from the jtherin, would be that the infernal regions had untoose their inhabitants to make the Cooper Institute counterpart ofa place which is generally nameless. When Saunders, who is @ handsome mulatto, with @ bright, Intelligent countenance and a pleas- ing address, had got as far as “Ladies and gentlemen” a tremendous uproar was heard in one corner of the hall, and tm jately afterwards about one hundred colored restaurant waiters entered with two United States Nags and a large banner, bearing the inscription, “Grant and Wilson Club, Righth Ward.” This caused another outbroak of ficndish Yelling, at the ebose of which Saunders was with great diiculty allowed to pro- eed, tl phate in having to {aicrtere fepeatedt 0 securé him the semblance of a hearihg. Hie Grening eenteaces were pithy and to the point, and he contrasted the characters of Grant and Greeley, to the decided disadvantage of the former, At the mention of Greeley’s name a cheer was raised by lis supporters, which was instantly drowned tu the uproarious howls of the Grant negroes. The au- dience showed neither discrimination, fair play nor judgment, hissing every sentence Saunders uttered, no matter what its purport might be, Captain Byrnes was several times forced to interfere to Breer s order, but the colored rowdies took no eed of the action, and one hideous looking rufMian struck a policeman for a simple remonstrance. Saunders went on to show what the past record of Greeley had been, and how, in conjunction with Sumuer— (terrific groans for Sumner) —he had borne the brunt and heat of the battle against slavery. when it was a crime to be an abolitionist, (Cheers for Greeley, counter cheers for Grant, cat and A deatae! Ho handkercniefs by the ladies and flags by the visitors.) In striking language Saunders showed the incapacity of Grant, his neglect of the colored men and his democratic record; but it was utterly unavailing, the audtence would have nothing against Grant, and an: statements made concerning him were receive with derisive laughter. The white men in the hall madea d show for Saunders, and for a time suc- ceeded in securing for him a partial hearing, but the wild blood of the Africans was aroused, and they soon burst through the little decorum that had hitherto been preserved. According to the terms previonsly arranged the opening speaker was to be allowed an hour, but more than half that time was consumed in wanton and uncalled-for interruptions. Asan instance of the discernment displayed, the following wili suffice: Saunders in the course of his speech alluded to the fact which might be apparent to all, that God freed the slaves, but this sentiment in com- mon with everything else uttered was cordiall hissed, Had Saunders been a Demosthenes he could not have born up against such a torrent of opposi- tion, and before the close of his hour he was visibly exhausted, It was only by an extraordinary exer- cise of yongs that he could make the closlog sen tences of his first addre udible to the reporters, and he resumed his se: mid applause from the few friends he had in the hall, and a Babe) of shouts of opprobrium from the large majority opposed to im. Rey. Mr, Garnett, a full-Nedged African, whose blood is uncontaminated with any white mixture, and who has the reputation of being one of the ablest men in the city, rose to reply, and waa en with enthusiastic cheering, clapping of ands and waving of handkerclilefa, which were again an again renewed, mingled with ‘counter cheers for Grecley ‘and Saunders, Mr. Garnet commenced by saying that no matter what the result of the discussion would be he should always treat Mr. Saunders with the respect he entertained for him as @ friend, and in the same breath proceeded to give a scathing pte- ture of his motives and ‘ter, to the intense delight of the grinning “niggers,’ who thought the jokes of the gentieman replete with wit and hamor, Garnet showed an irable kuowledge of the audience he had to de: ith, and in a speech ratory, mimicry and a tine- Saunders to the ridicule is cong: ion, whose delight knew no bounds, e reverend gentieman called frequently for ers for Grant, the Freedmen’ jank, © memory of Lincoln @nd Stanton and John Gicbes into General Grant, the ‘butcher, { the idernesa memory.” W. W. Mosely, a8 Dugan, ang others addressed the assemblage. *. Brown, whose sou is marching on. He did not at- tempt to answer the arguments of Saunders, but treated him in @ manner which, congidering the 2.—WITH SUPPLEMENT. audience he had to deal with, was simply admira- Die. It is easy to understand now repu- tation as ap effective minister and revéyal stirrer- up is bo i, and bis political effort was in the same ratio of excellence. Of course, if it was ad- dressed to au audience capable of measuri it, it would not go for much, but as an a to heated Bealpdicen nothing flercer has ever been ut- tered in Cooper Institute. ir. Garnet has not much oratorical style, but his powers asa mimic and his earnestness amply compensate for the de- pete ole He spoke for upwards of an hour, re- called rity of the republicans meee to Slory exhausted the great names which the party st if contati and after an cloqnent peroration sat down, as mach exhausted as a dan dervish, Long before Garnet had concluded It was appar- eut that the feeling of the pegroes was Worked up beyond the power of control, and whep Saunders rose vo make the final speech the audience ran at him, peng of them rushed to the door, and the balance who remafned yelled like | aemons. Mr, Garnet and the chairman endeavored so secure order, but their effort was unavailing. The undaunted Saunders, however, would not be conquered. He threw off bis shirt collar, hung back his coat, and advanced to the front of the platform to encounter @ scene which would be @ di 2 tO a cannibals. The police, seriously alarmed for his safety, ed their clubs more firmly and ranged themscives around the stage. Every moment the situation became more perilous for Saunders, and grave fears were entertained that he would be bodily from the platform and mobbed, He succeeded In giving utterance to & few disjointed sentences, an r a forcible rebuke to the uacharity of Rev. Garnet, whom he | accused of using his profession asa cloak for his foul play, resumed his seat, baving elicited the admiration ot ever: separa mind in the audience au for his coolness ant ing. When the clos seene of allcame @rush was made for the platform, and in an instant it was crowded with @ demonstrative group, some con- gratulating Saunders, and others wanifesting a strong determination to go for his scalp, All this time _ chee! was going on for Gar- net and {irant, the reverend genticman being fairly embraced by his admirers, male and femalo, after their kind. - poticemen eventually had co clear the stage, which was done with dificulty, a number of buliet-headed rufians showing a strong dispost- tlon to resist, but a vigorous use of muscle and clubs finally cleared the hall of what was probabli the most unruly audience it has ever contained, and thus ended the great colored political religious discussion. The feeling was overwhelmingly with Garnet, but Saundera has gained @ moral victory which should be more (14 ‘ifying to him than the senseless yells and fendish applause which were given, to his opponent. ‘The arrangements of yptain Byrnea for the reservation of the peace were admirable; and {t is entirely owing to his own precautions {hat no disturbance took place. After leaving the hall the combatants were followed by their friends and enemies, who made the vicinity of Eighth street melodious with unearthly music, MB. SAUNDERS’ SPEECH. Mr. WiLLiaM H. SAUNDERS was then introduced. He sald that in his short experience as an American citizen he had found that an idea existed that a citizen might speak and act freely, no matter what opinions were or where he might happen to be in the Union. (Here a Grant and Wilson campaign club entered the hall and was the occasion of a wild demonstration of applause, mingled with a few hisses.) Mr. Saunders continued by saying that in @ contest like this we could afford to sink all prejudices of race or color, except 80 far as that prejodice affected the future of our great and sporious country. He felt his utter insignificance in the work before him, and regretted that he was not able to do more for the great and ed nan who was the standard-bearer of the party 0 Wntch he had attached himself. (Another burst of cheers for General Grant.) He acknowledged the sacredness of the sentiments proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence, and stood upon & j platform which reaifirmed those principles. He ‘was speaking for @ man who for more than a quar- ter ef a century had borne the banner of equal rights. Horace aieeley had been consist- ent from first to Jast. He might have blundered, but his blunders were ever on the side of humanity. (A voice—“Didn’t Governor Swann give you enough’) Long before the republican party had been born, and on the eve of the election of Lincoln, and all through the war, Horace Greciey had always been the friend of freedom. Mr. Lin- coln had said tn 1861 and 1862 that he would save the Union with or without slavery. In 1863 Lincoln threatened to abolish slavery in the States then in rebellion, but did not do so until | the rebels refused to Jay down their | arms, It was only when _white-winged | victory failed to crown the Union arms, and it was found that a black body was as good to stopa but- Jet as a white one. That emancipation had been finally declared. ‘After that the black soldier | shared the sacrifices and the glories of the Union army. It was often said, “Did not the republican ty abolish slavery?’ He said in reply, “No.” 10d Almighty alone ‘abolished, slavery. (Here oc- curred an interruption of a minute or so, during which an obstreperous partisan was put out by the police.) But Horace Greeley—(a storm of hisses | And cheers, followed by cheers for Grant and again | by groans for Greeley)—Greeley and sSum- \ ner and the men who were with them had done more to bring about the abolition of | slavery than any party. Beside the Hon. Horace Grecley—(cheers and groans and hisses)—there stood one of the philanthropists of this century, who twenty-three years ago stood up in the United | States Courts to plead for equality before the law, ® man who did not know how todo wrong the Hon. Charles Sumner. If Sumner was wrong, he | was willing to be wrong with him, and to go down to oblivion side by side with the man who had done | 8o much for his race. Mr. Sumner gaid of Greeivy | Convention, so that in this respect they "e equal, | except that Greciey had been a republican for twenty-five years, while General Grant hud never in. his life yet voted a republican ticket. Mr. Saan- | ders continued to read lengthy extracts from Mr. Sumner’s famous letter, which he claimed was the Lnerings adopted by 25,000 of the best republicans | In this country at Cincinnati. That was a platform | on whieh no man could be ashamed to stand, for it | Was practically a reaflirmation of the Dectaration of Independence made a hundred years ago. It was, any way, broad enough Toe el to do it. to stand upon, and he intended On the other hand, look at what the Philadelphia Convention had said, things that no distinc | recognized, While that declaration was made a Re- publican congress was in seasion, and why, if they really wished that thelr principles should be carried into effect, in the name of God did they not make | the necessary legislation? But the uegro vote be- longed to neral Grant and his minions. (A voice—-“‘Yes, and he shall haye it.”) The expres- | sions of the meeting showed conclusively to his | mind, and to the minds of the American people, | that {t wasa high crime for a black man to dare to | raise his voice against Ulysses §. Grant. (A ery, | “Judas,” followed by rounds of cheers for Grant and | hisses for Greeley,) He did not deny the splendid merits of Grant as @ soldier, but remembered what | General Graut had said of his race. During the war | Grant had pledged his honor as a soldier that if he found the war was to be waged in the interest of | abolitionism he would lay down his sword. (Another interruption of several minutes, with cries of “Gar. Hevea thal Rial tot Urectey meek Whom hey | | They declared among other | distikea so much, but the men who were associat with him, (A cry, “Ab, that’s the talk.” Mr. Greeley had been nominated by 26,000 republican votes, and afterwards the Baltimore Democratic Convention | had renominated Mr. Greeley and had adopted the | Cincinnati platform. (More SHES Tite and hisses.) He wanted to know what there was in democracy to which a republican ought to be opposed. He | hated villany, wherever found, whether in repub- | lican or democrat. (‘How about '63 and the riots” | and loud chee: ay The was constitutionally vested in the people, and when this was respeoted a republican was a democrat and a democrat a republican. The democratic party wer of government had simply coine back to the principles of Ce roclaimed in the Declaration of Independence. e lived in @ progressive age. We were moving | on, not by decades or centuries, but by the light- ning speéd of God's Justice. He believed that God | was in this work. (A voice—“God don't know you.”) They iy bie their banner to the breeze, asking no man to vote for their candidate, but todo | him and cause that simple justice which be- | longed of right to every American citizen. He asked | them to do simple, even-handed justice to that | rand old hero who had devoted the best years of 18 lite to the down-trodden and the oppressed. Surely he was not asking too much. Horace Greeley, now tottering to a giortous and honored grave, was placed before the American peopie. He | asked for him but simple justice, and asked that no man should expose his character. Here was @ man sixty years of age, in who could not in | the order of natural events live many more years— | (He ig.too old for President”)—and surely he was not asking too much when he demanded justice for | him. A little while General Grant thought he | would like to own Domingo, then controlled | and owned by 200,000 free colored men. General | Grant thought he would like to own the island and | the 200,000 nen that lived there; and, owing to his pecoliar reticence, there were some wiio | thought that he (General Grant) wanted the isiand for the purpose of reopening the slave trade, ("You are) a Mar = when | you say that,” followed by a tempest of laughter and cheers for Grant.) Then again, there was the | case of Smith, who was a colored man and whose son was sent to West Point at the same time that Prince Frederick Grant was there. Prince Frederick could not endure the smell 01 4 negro cadet at West Point,and wrote to his father about it. Grant therefore ordered the Secretary of War to have a court packed and have the boy Smith removed. (More cheers and_ hisses.) . Saunders then claimed that Selia Martin wae a Greeley man aiso, | and, though Douglass was a Grant man, yct even | he spoke in defence of Charles Sumner. Douglass and Garnett were the two great leaders of tle | colored race, and while be respected them, he | wished to have the right to exercise the right of | holding and expressing his own opinions, no mat- | ter whether they Were the same as those of Douglass | and Garnett or hot. When lass Was kicked off & mail steamboat—(“That’ le.")—well, when too was not allowed to sit at a public table on | & steamboat, because he was biack, he felt. it, whether Douglass felt it or not. (‘Grant kic! you out of the Freedman’s Sureau,’ and “Traitor, traitor.”) Did _ his colored friends who lived in the North forget that there was also a South, which had been devastated by Grant's carpet-baggers, It was for the American people to fay vhether these States should be sold under the hammer at ten per cent of their value. (“How avout the Ku Kiuz 1”) Mr, Saunders attempted to omy, apgtts. | the gentleman who hadecome there that night and Grant that each was nominated by arepublican | P! had not made @ new departure at Baltimore, but | “ | rison with us, | put him there agatu. (Cheers.) close by tronicatly thanking the andience for thet attention, which created another tremendous out. jarst of and then the speaker said he shoul keep on until tho audience were quiet. He did no expect to find them all friendly. What. should he want to to Greeley (Money? and outrageously loud laughter). Mr. Saunders was completely taken back for a minute or so, and walked uneasily to and fro across the platform, but recovered himself and said:—‘ip kindness & say to that man that if he will call at 206 Weat Thir- tleth street to-morrow, before twelve o'clock, and state that fact, 1 will make him a hole and go in the ground.” Mr. Saunders then concluded amid a tumult, during which not a word he, sai could be distinguished, SPEECH OP MR. GARNETT, The Rev. Mr. Garnett was then introduce: meeting. He was greeted with the most npr demonstrations of applause, waving of hats handkerchiefs. He said that he desired to say this vast assemblage that whatever views 01 Cuinlons Might be presented there to-nij himself or Mr. Saunders, who had just addresse them, there would be no interruption betweem them in regard to their relations as nis and fel- low citizens, (Cheers.) They were there in a bos litical Cay to present to their minds and judg+ ments the claims of the respective candidates fo the the highest oflce in the gift of th American peoplo, (Cheers.) Although they might get heated before they got through, ye latform, he would, on hfs par extend to Mr. Saunders the hand of a brother an a fellow citizen. (Cheers.). They had heard tha‘ he was to have an hour and @ half to occupy that shat came about without any desira ad had great trouble tn ars discussion, They had had as muc! tting the papery arran; d and Z blo to have in oe ing an articié through Geneva Ponte ren now in session. (Cheers and eer a Lo last Rei ‘th mm and squarely that un Gaspettt submitted to. th as whole — thii thrown up and that when they left the . Saunders must home; but he now held Mr. Saunders in his han and would not let him go home. Mr. Saunders already occupied an hour, and he (Mr. Garnett) was eak for an hour and a halt and Mr. "Baundere was them to take hal an hourin picking up the fragments to mend bi argument. (Choers.) In every word uttered b; Mr. Saunders in regard to the former record an the brilliant history of Charles Sumner an Horace Greeley he most heartily concurred. He concurred ‘n all that had been sai about their great hpsatrany and humanity in th st, and he had not a word to utter it it ut let him remind Mr, the republican party; wi few months, since they left the republican party, their -record was not so brilliant. He (Mr. Gar4 net) had known what the federal party meant; bh knew what the free soll party meant, for he wi with 1¢; he knew what the republican part; but he confessed he did not Know what to the compound party that had just sprung up. Cheers.) Mr. Saunders had described them as thd nctnnati-Baltinore (Laughter.) That What was that Uberal republican partys party was all things to atl men. y? They told men in Nortl Carolina that they were congervatives. ‘They tol they wer Perhaps his friend kne \d North Caroitt ad gone for In the City Park the 100 uns for the repub- ean — victory. (Cheers. When the trutli leaked out, the republicans fired 600 gun and that mado 600, (Cheers.) Mr. Saunders ha talked about carpet-baggers. Lage | the last twq months the liberal republicans had got a many curpet-baggers. Mr. Saunders had filled hi: bag with carpet-bag documents and the demo- grass party had trotted him out. aR the men who met at Baltimore that (Laughter, 8 democrats, what it was. He the conservative: democrats fired it would not be a misapplication ol fands, and ifhe had not an objection, to do goo that evi! might come’ of it, he would apply to th democratic committee to send Mr. Saunders dowm to North Carolina so that he might by the reflex in- fiuence of his speeches carry the Stata for General Grant. (Cheers and laughter.) Ha told them that Sumner was gone and that Greeley was gone, but, woree thar all, Mr. Saunders was gone, (Cheers and langhter.): Mr, Garnet then observed that he thot ght it r quired @ great deal of brass on the part of a colored man like Mr. Saunders to come to the city of New York and there, before a crowded meet- ing of black men, ask them to desert nq r republican party, which had been ever true to th best interests ot the colored race. They were aske to do this in New York, where colored mem had geen their wives murdered—where they had secn some of thelr brethren hung up to Who -was Addressing Mr. Saunders, the speaker sald, By all the gous, upon what meat does this Cwsai feed (cheers.) We have much at atuk here, especially colored men brought up in this city, where wealth is on wherg schools are plenty, It is enough stir up thea blood to see a man tell his colored brethren to go back on the Union army and General Grant (Cheers.) There must be @ pride of race among alt people, and my pride of race ts wounded when I ear a colored mau attack President Grant, wha has (ees victory to the black man, and one foreign black Minister to Liveria and another to Haytl. (Groans for Saunders.) not done with republican in Grant. (Cheers), Would not deal in declamatiou. Don't groan for bin; Tang him yet. If there was a fmpia the world it was Generat He would read some facts; h He wanted to te them what the republican party had done, not what the liberal republican party romised to do, He dd not express seconded by the tallest archangel in heaven, h would fall, in his connection with the democrati arty, a8 a certain angel had falien from heaven before. (Cheers.) He read a few of tho jE 1 ahd acts of the republican party which had amended the constitution three times and placed Mr, Saunders und other black men just wher they are. Mr. Douglass stated that he had neve becn insulted by the President, and he had it on th authority of the correspondeut of the Koening Post that the man who tnsulted Mr, Dougluss on boar the steamboat was now a red hot Greeley man, (Cheers,) Those who are well bred like General rant would never insult any man. Speaking of thé Cincinnati and Baltimore Conventions he said there must have been great swallowing thet onserva- tives swallowing democrats and democrats swal- lowing conservatives, He did not know exactly Saunders described it. VOICE What is it ? » The speaker said he would be afraid to describ What lt was. Mr. Saunders was once a member of the ‘ae party. He ae up into the afr, and when he fell down it wag into the loving bosom of the democratia party. Saunders {5 cheek by jowl with lofninan, Who withdrew the State of New York from approval of the fifteenth amendment. (Cheers.) There was not & black man im the Baltimore Convention, The democrata at Baltimore accepted the votes of the black man, but not a black face must be seen within their charmed circle. We love the re- piblican party because they have stood upon tha rinciplg that makes no distinction of race, ‘olor ér people. That was the season why they respected the republican party. General Grant had aid that if he found @ man with brain enough to serve the country he any disitke for Mr. Sumner and Mr. Grecicy vd would select him for office whether he was white or black. (Cheers.) One of the, last acts signed by Abraham Lincolu was that for the establishment of the Freedmen’s Bureau, witch had now by the poor man’s exertion aboug $4,000,000 of money saved. (A votce—A cheer for Hor- ace Greeley. Cheers and groans.) Although we have loved and revered Hoxace Greeley and Charles Sum- ner, yet when they tell ua to turn over Ou people to the tender mercies of the Ku Klux we will not do it. Mr. Greeley nad once said to the South, Vayward sisters, go In peace. Now he woui say to Greeley and Sumner, “Go in peace.” We have the republican party. The soldiers who, fought for the Union are all for the repuablicam uurty. The women whose husbands fell in the war are for the republican party. The black souliers are, for the republican party. The ministers of the Gos-' pel are for it. Men who have good common sense are for this party. It is sald that Mr. Sumner and Mr. ‘Greeley = are bat he would tell them not yone—all the good black men of New, ork were not gone. We have William Lloyd Gar- vendeli Phillips is with us, fhe poet Whittier ts with and the Generals of the war are with us. eneral Butler is with us. (A Voice—Spoons, 8] 4 General Butier, who at Baltimore said, “If you kill another American soldier | shall lay your city in ashes,’ was with them, A band of martyra standing on the [ep battlements of heaven were look- down on them approvingly. The spirit of ng Abralam Lincoln was with them, and so was the spirit of the grandest old man of the nineteenth century, John Brown. (Oheers.)' Their hosts were gathering for the battie, and now Ulysses Grant, who never lost @ battle, was awaii ng the contest, calm and dignified. He well filled the’ office of President for they would ‘They wouid also pat the old sivemaker of Natick in the Vice Presidency, He hoped they would send Mr, Saun- ders back to the Souti to tell them there that wnat was known us Cincinuati-Baltimore-liberal-repub- lcan-democratic principles could never take root in this country, (Uheers.) SAUNDEUS IN RBPLY. Mr. SaxpeRs then attempted to make himself heard, but faiied for several minutes, At last, he said that after the learned discussion he heard—here agaiu the speaker became in- audibie, and naturally was also in @ great passion, which, of course, only still further inflamed the audience. Mr. Garnet had not answered the charges against Grant, but why had he not also said that Toombs and Tweed were for Grany well a8 the dead heroes ana the rest? And he would say slso that a good many. of these same dead heroes had been voted fx North Carolina, The the fact. (Another storm.) would carry New York withoat Sy, 4s well as with them. Mr. Saunders then began to had four years, and abuse Mr. Garnet that gentleman had = frequentiy used claptrap fore in the game way to _ insult Dtlemen, Tho subsequent part of Mr. Saunders’ speech was unintedligible, but what could be heard seemed to be an accusation of unfair play against Mr. Gar- net, Which was resented by the vast majority of the audience so markedly that Mr, Saunders at length was forced to withdraw,