The New York Herald Newspaper, March 24, 1860, Page 10

10 8nd +4 the recommendation of ity Board of fupervizors cbtalos bod ‘aority to levy nage “he precest sear: ths Bosra of Supe their proposed levy, expressly refi HEWS FROM THE STATE CAPITAL ta preparing Ae oes ten, OR noe uth rity to raise the amount claimed by a eS made yee Records to ay for ip steee, grour ding their aa to the Vand 'y and justion of the missioners for priate g uch indices and ®n the act of April 13, 1885, ena full Phe Schemes of the City Rail- road Engineers. | wetttive ccishinbed oy Weepanas “h ‘ CODLPRGLOFS ti Justices Lobby Excitement Over the Charter | 0. 76icn in the rust jeciolat et ~ . compe! the Board of Bupervieors to fm the Amendments. amonet called for by the coptract. Afier arguwent the maa- mts. Cam's wae reftsed, uo deckilon being bad, however. as to tbe vauldity of the contract, Am ap) ‘Was taken to the term of the Pupreme Court, je which the matter ls now pend Foperviwora denying the validity of the contract ar ) extstence of the Comminstoners of Records. however, have passed an act entit!ed Board of Suvervisors of the county of New irk io levy & tax for county purp ses, and to regulate the exoendituré thereof apd also to borrow money in antielpation ‘of the oolleotion of said tax, and to lesue couniy revenue bonds therefor.” in whieh, t of the Board of 8a; THE SRODKLYN FERRY QUESTION. The Motion to Reconsider the Bill Carried. ; aon ol R CHEAP FERRIAGE, | ice". ANOTHER CHANCE FOR CHEAP FERRIAGE, | S<"xt,Genmatoyires andred and twenty one do County treasurer upon the Oomalasioners™ The lenguese Reems to tne existence of a valid contract to overrule the action of the local authorities. and to anticipve the taal decision of the courts ip a matier now pending befere thew, which I can. Rot surpose to Lave been the in eutlon of Ube’ 5 egiaaty y seven bauored thoussnd dollas® having @iroady b expended by the Commlmicnere of Records, and tbe prices called tor by the covirset being admittedly exorbitant, there ahould be no doubt of the impr:priety of imposing say farther asd ize and imply THE RAILROAD FOLLING BILL IN THE SENATE. Passage of the Washington Heights Bill the county of New York in in the Senate, Winer ar ihevooel suihoriies, unless required by the termact s contracts valid beyond dispute, should the contract jn) Re, &o. Our Special Albany Despatch. Aunany, March 23, 1860. ‘The railroad warfare is slowly aud calmly dyiog away. ‘She two Grand Commanders having signed ao armistice ef friendsbip, the only trovble now lies with the ander officers, the captains, colonels, and the rank and file, who seem to retain their old prejadices longer than their com- manicrs, and refuee point blank to amalgamate. This ie the principal feature of ‘the warfare now. A union of orces has taken place. A few persone may be seen skir- mishing aroond on the outside, bat their numbers are 80 Sew compared with the combined forces of the two armies, ‘Phat but little can be accomplished by them in {ighting the flerce and blind multitude. Lord Tharlow was on the field of action all day yesterday, aud could be seen doig- mg bebind the door with different members, as if some- what troubled about the arrange ment ef the armies. He ‘was seen consulting with a certain Senator who was ‘ore most in the Sght in favor of Law’s gridiron in the Senate, md then one of his own private House generals would be eailed out and consulte4, and go on thronghout the day, ‘The two railroad bills taken up last evening were referred te the standing committee with power to report complete, without being read to the House, and one of ‘them bad only been on the files of the members four ours when referred to report complete. This is the vate of speed that the House traigs are beingrun. The passengers are all seated, and the valve of the locomotive has been opened by Mr. McQuade. Look out for ‘Dreakers. ‘The crowded state of the lobbies with New Yorkers in- ieate that there is work of importance before the Legisla- Qure. There are men here representing every imaginable Materest. Capt. M. Keating of your city has been bere for come time engincering with untiring energy the bill weeently introduced by McLeod Murphy, to prevent feuds fm tho sale of bay in bale, &c , 80 earnestly demanded Dy thecartmen of New York. The bill has passed the Benate, ans just been ordered to a third reading in the Boure, which insures its passage, and must cocrest maay ef the abuses now existing in the sale of hay by bale, and in weighing it, &c The law should have found its pore on the statute books long before this; but beter than never. * ‘The republican lobby here, who number legions, arc ox- ee. oF se be fustained by the courts, the Supervia rs nave power to raise the money under the taw which created the Uowmmbaion era of Necorcs, and can doubt'ese be compe led to exereiee tt. Being unwiling to sanction tast portion of the bill mash in jeciy recogcizes the extetevee of @ contract binding n- ft) ie amount of one bund ed hbd ninety thres thousand eight bune red and twenty ove dollars I return it to the Assem ws without my signature, for reconsidera‘ion as tee ett of The Brooklyn ferry question came up again to-day for consideration in the House, and, on the motion to recon- sider, Mr. Briggs made a lengthy speech against the ma- jority report the committee and the unprecedented course of the House upon this question a few days since. He denied that there had been any evidence brought be fore the committee proving that even the Eastern District ferries could not be profitably rum forone cent He hoped that thie House would not go against the appeals of the people, and throw thomeelves into the hands of the ferry monopoly and allow them to oppress the people for ten yerrs again. ‘ Mr. ©. Kelsey followed with an excellent argument in favor of one cent ferriage, and said that the perrons that pretended to appear before the committee on behalf of the Sinking Fund of the city ot New York, by their own statements had shown that they did not represent. the Sinking Fund, tor they called the Union Fer- ry Company their client. If thete ferries coald mot be ron for one cent, why did not the directors and the officers of this company appear before the Com- mittee in public and make their statement? Notwith- stendirg Mesars. Stranahan and Cyrus P. Smith were in Albany all the time that the committce was taking teeti- mony upon this question, they never appeared before the committee with any wstimony—but they could be seen almost every day talking in pfivate with the members of this committee. These gentlemen had been busy in pri- vate. The circumstances connected with their operations with certain members of the committee were, to say the least, exceedingly suspicious, aud be for one could not look upon the avtempt to cram this question down the throats of the members under the gag of the previous question in any other light than that of the gridiron rrangement in the Senate. They had undertaken to avcertain how the loan of $30,000 to New York had been made. No one could tell where the money had gone, and he would not say; but until it was proven where it did go, he would consider, and he thenght justly, that it had been divided. Mr. Miller then made a lengthy epeech in favor of his report, completely misstating tacts in connection with the whole matter, as directly showa by Svidence before the committees. His whole argument was that of a lawyer going through special pleading for his client, and, likes lawyer, he was exccedingly earnest to carry hia point. Why this earnestness on the part of a member from Buffalo in direct opposition to the unanimous feeling of the mem- bers from Kings County, of bot parties ? Mr. Wiley next spoke in favor of the one cent ferriage. He had confidence in the committee, but no committee could get all the facts in the question, but one side Sm ol « ways be heard whore there was a rich eedingly basy preparing their party plans. ‘among | Would al n ‘eir Taulitude arrangements I find one in regard rf monopoly in Cg nog The menraey was = " their program the appointment of notaries. “It has | 00 band to furnish their testimony. But how wag it with . Deen determi this band that all the notaries that | {Re poor? They could not come and give their testimony, but had sent their petitions, asking that their rights should be protected, and it was the duty of the Legislature to protect them. He appealed to the members not to throw themselves into the han’s of a rich monopoly to oppress the poor. The poor had gone tothe Common Council of New York for protection, and failing there, had come here to obtain it from the Legislatgre. Mr. Miller then stated that be had received aletter from Mr. Demil. stating that the statement ia regard to the communication in the Brooklyn Times was untrue. Mr. Briggs tben followe3, making some curi us develope. ments in r d to the action of the majority of the com. mittee on thie question. When in the committee the Chairman had told him that he should report adversely against every point asked by the people of Brooklyn— that he should not vote to gract them any relief, and the @emmune in the democratic church shall walk the plank, ‘and shail be replaced by those who have for a long tinre ‘Deen in full fellowship in the republican church. is B retaliatory move against the democrats of New York, who refuse to make }republicans Commissioners of Deeds, @nd you need not be suprised to find the office of Com missioners of Deeds in New York city entirely wiped out ‘and placed in the hands of the notaries, to sait the tasie of the hungry republicans who have been legisiating so maueh for the city of New York for party purposes that ‘there is a fair proapect of their coon being without a party the city. A few years since they could make a fair against the democracy; but they have fixed matters Dy special jegislation into such a nice shape that the de- mocracy can run two candidates, both of whom will beat de repobiicans by thousands. The city charter is creating no small stir among the | longer the gentleman considered it the more rigia ergs ye ag athe Working like nailerefur the | @ Decame. Whether this was on account of @iure. Occasionally your correspondent sees their foot- | bis holding mith the Union mana. Prints, and that frequent enough to know how | er8 did not before the committee. ro. matters are progressing. Their lust dodge is in the | mained silent and allowed the statements of the other side to go unanswered. He now saw the reason the gentle- man (Mil'er) had been holding private co! dence with the directors. He now saw sequel to the report. ‘They had convicted titemselves, and he wanted this house to bear this point in mind. Mr. Miller said that ne should have said that the letter was in the Brooklyn 7imes, and he had not talked with apy of the managers of this company. Ser. Cooper next followed, stating that a false issue had been raised; that this was not asked for by the poor; but by the Brooklyn property holders. . Mr. Callicot next spoke at much length, stating that this had been petitioned for by the Iaboring classes. He charged the argument of Mr. Cooper as being a species of insane jealousy. He hoy that the appeals of the citizens of Brooklyn, through the unanimous voice of her representatives, would be ted. No had dared ‘Bhape cf} a confide tial circular to the republican members, sigoed by the chairman of five repub- committees in their official capacity, with Sandry other important yeraonages. I send you oae of wbeee circulars that has been Landed to the members with 90 the private marke upon it If there is any more ch men of commi tees in your city please add the r nam ‘Whe list aireacy subscribed, so that it may be comp ge I have no doubt that they are anxious to be in the list. Perhaps there may be half a dozen or more Tammany Commitices that would like to remonstrate:— ‘The undersigned, du!y 2 2pcin‘ed comm t+0 of the Repub: Bean Gentral Cosumitiee of the city Of New York, for the pur. —, urging at Albeny the passage of the * charter,”” © po- ” *insoector ard canvasscr,”” and “amended registry’ Qills now before the Legisisture, respectfully invite your prompt action in their favor. person ‘Their opponents bave commenced an outcry agatuat hess | to come before ihe co against the demands of the Bille, which is an echo of the origival nterestel vouferatens citizens of Brooklyn but the paid attorneys of the sinkin; Femvecting muricioal rights acd Ios! legislation ‘The claim | Pot New Yorks His cansed's great deal of such measures have embarrassed our par- 0: ty cisetpline and success, The clamor ie unfounded, and the ‘measures perio Mars the beso of the Union Ferry Com- use. one nae the ta ot pl ae sel! — ba = hei Aad ‘as ‘Yation agsiust recaless managemen: unt ing electors At the close o! speech usual gag was applied ryt ehaihst ine bi ie natetice bad OOneea by Mr. Haskin’s moving the previous question, which was geveral welfare, as well as valuable to ‘pi ordered. The motion was then taken on reconsidering, which was carried—yeas 57, nays 46. ‘The House then adjourned till four P. M. The statement made by Mr. Miller that he had not held any conversation with the directors of the Union Ferry But much of them wou’ ferences to many local p: Ig. however, our toierior 201 and velue of our eonsiusions, as we are in Company, or any of the managers, is certainiy Ras with these of our chy repreecntatires eee cee eeke | very singular. Cyrus R, Smith, Stranaban, and J. A- Croes bave been seen in frequent conversation with him. Stsrnehan’s agent, Hasbuock has also been thick with Miller’s friends. facts come to me from persons who say they can substantiate them. Now, what does it all mean? Jam further told that Austin Myers gave his reason without hesitation for not signing the minority re- port that Weed told him he must not. Does ali this look ‘as though this question has been decided by the commit- tee upon fits merits only? tatives whore overrides perronal entanglements or individual objections. feme cf the fea uren of inese. Dilla thus at xs ene Gere were first presentedin the message oF our popul faktbfal fellow citizen who adorns the Bresutive chal, Aid us tn these respects, ant we Cpr that New York ‘@ount: ‘i keep step to the music which sounds from so many Sounties. ive St Lawrence and Bovember so: ¢ of triumph. gecilir, a2,” D. CONOVER, Chmn. Rep. Cent. Commities of the olty of New York, f . DELAF.ELD SM(TH, MN \e pro; known as Washington Vice Chm. Rep. Cot asin tay St New Yor. | mgt error owe or eninge ‘Vice Chm: Cen Ne 4,08 followe— Se a Re OTA A ERANEDT? © NOW Tork. | 4 AS celMersrs. Abell, Bell, Blood, Colvin, Connolly, Chman. of Executive Neeof Rep. Cent. Committes, | Fiero, Grant, Hammond, Billhouse, Ketcham, Lapham, ©. 8 SPEN JER, McGraw, Montgomery, Munroe, P. P. Morphy, Ramsey, Cems of Joung Mees Sop em Common, Richmond, Roberteon, Rotch, Warner. Chmn. Ex. Commitiee ot Young Men’ ‘ent. Com. Nays—Mersrs. Lawrence, J. M. Murphy, Spinole, Wil- ©. W. Brennan, Jobn Hams. Richard Mott, Georg ’e The Lieutenant Governor announced the Committee of Wirtam x. Albertson, Stephen A. Clark, Conference on Toll bill this morning as follows:— pay Geerze Denaidecn, Messrs. P. P. Murphy, Truman and Grant—two in favor a Saree &, Ehelre, of the House bill and one of the Senate. xD: i MN. - ‘A protracted and spirited debate took place upon it. John P. Flender. D. MeCabe, The friends of the genate bill felt that they were not cor- Jomes W. Bush, Me rectly represented in the committee. Joba J. Shaw. = a Mr. Hammond moved a reconsideration of the vote ap- sae Mask 35, 1800. fobn 1, Taylor. pointing the committee. ‘The motion, after s1me debate, >. ‘was amended £0 as to take the vote direct upon discharg- The Regency here (Cagger & Co.) and others frem New | ing each member of the committee. The vote was first ‘York are ina busy hig >P the projected amend- | taken omP. P. Murphy, which was lost, and he was re- ‘mente to the charter of 1867. Peok, Brady, | tained in the committee. The next motion was upon Smith and others of the Board have been here, using | Senator Grant, which was also — lost, and every resource for the same object. erro) apa a) he retained. The next wxs up@h Senator ‘they procured the insertion tm the tax levy of a clause giv- | Truman, which was carried, and Senator Tramaa img the Common Council a salary of one thousand dol- was stricken out of the list. Then came the notion of fare a year, which sum is carricd out with the additions | taking the appointment out of the bands of the chair and “carriage hire and other expenges”’ to the ameant of | the Senate appoint, which was carried. A number of sixty-four thousand dollars. From” this fund, I am in. | mames were eeationed Sormed the ‘authority, it is promised that there ‘the charter amendments were parties who did the work gotoniy their labor for their I ae Nee canes lobbies ae ann eee men have their agents bere, promising for the defeat of the charter. Tae republican Senmioas men are ‘on this subject, and threaten to have very curious jedings in case of defection or epposition of their members. Akhough the disbursement Jer for the same purpose did not near reach the extent ‘af the promises made, yet it is certain that nine thousand ee ve ome male, vat the appropriation wes struck out, and a defeated, some of contest on the question was a long and exciting one. Mapy of the prey See seem to look upon the ‘vote of one or two “roy oo teamed asecn! . Mr. Robinson dollars were 60 spent, and that under well known oireum- | yur winners gash tn tever ae stances, which it is possible the city republicans may, for | "ar. Couchman spoke on the same side, after which Mr. revenge, ——— At all events a bi Toyalistobean- | wey made a strong speech the bill. ticipated. republicans, poor and hungry, and being ‘He thought punishment . of imprisonment ‘oat of office, rely upon their party strengii, whilst their not proportionate with the crime. . He would antagonists of ¥ Hall ‘stand upoa their sure | consider when tbe death penalty was abolizhed that at posscasion of the sinews of war, as well as their experi ence of the carruptibility of the bodies here. BeTbe Aldermen and Tammany men have their head- quarters at the Stanwix. Frequent caucusses have bean Beld here, and ae there are not half a dezon Mozarters in the Tegisiature, the fight on the charter will be upon ririctly Jeast ace-tenth of the protection of his person had been Babject. He was followed by . Fisch, Milliken and Harris and Mr. Bingham in favor. - 'y grounds for the epoils between the republican ana | ** then ered. third readin; yeas aan tale of the leepellican’ Cotmmmiscer os nn yearn 2 a, se ed is of the Repul mmittees, are in constant little done in the Senate but orgering the ap- and busy session at the The Tammany ageats | pointment aay ling committee, and ordering a bill are sby and stealthy in their movements, while their op. authorizing the Sheriff of New York to advertise in only The latter have bad | gneen papers, instead of all es now, the balaace being of on are loud, open and — one etumbiing block to their harmony, which is as to the extent to which the Mayor shall be ja any ‘shea ig a ee of the ch eae pele io Tecognized, based upon mere joy, an e gear that otherwise the effort for the exclusive sgerandizement of Haws would prove abortive. Mr. Smith made a mipority report to-day from thecom mittee—a y one—which was by the Clerk, reviewing the whole matter. The Governor zent in a veto to day upon the New York & local natare. SEW YORK LEGISLATURE, Senate. Aunass, March 23, 180. Several petitions to reduce the milk tariff on the Harh’m Railroad were presented. fee, tbo Comune eon Eo te Piast nl org were ther reported Peace stance | steep amen ByGecters veto?” On this tee vike wood ven rn = —— itis’ side. ee itowing tee Vee etree Wn eemalad, | 9 amen tha chatted Of the Now York College of Phy- sicians and Surgeons. . Stare ov New Youn, Execcrive Deranrwent, ALpawy, March 23, 1860. To re As+xusty:—Tbe county of New York alone, of all se counties in the State, comes to the Legialsture anpuely, Tocreate the new county of Conhoctor. To amend the act to encourage improvement in the Dreed of domestic animals. ee for county purposes and to | yorx shove 146th strest. ‘To appoint commiseionersto tay outs portion of New ‘To amend the law of divorce, by @ vote of 19 te 10. To amend the act relative to the sale ef stamped bot- tles. To it deputy inspectors of metres, The Pumbane apnouncea Messrs. P. P. Murphy, Grant Jari of the Beasto oe the Rallrond TON Dil k nso part o on A major! ‘of thie committee favors the House bill. Messrs. Hammond (rep.) and Srmera (dem.) advocated reconsideration of the mi Stepled yeetrday auiboris- ing the Committee of Conference, on ground that ine presiding offiocr had no right erbitrarity tw overrule tte ecatiment of the Senate, as empressed in their vote y.s- tercay, refusing to recede from the Semiate bill. In order to reach the resolutions, #0 as to introduce » motion to reconsider, the imterv. were Jaid on the table, by-@ vote of ing @ determination on the part of the Senate to recall tue Conference Committee. ‘When the third reading of bills was reached, the Preei- dent declared that this could not be laid on the table without @ two thirds vote in favor of it, ‘This decision delays the action'on the motion to recon- sider for the present. A long and stormy debate was had in the Senate. The majority swongly denounced the action of the presiding cfficer infor ming the Conference Committce adverse to the expressed views of the Senate. It was claimed that the ap- polniment of & committee in favor of the House bill, if not en ara calculated to do 0, as the House bill would only be again reported to the Sbate, and again rejected, and nothing would then be Gesigned to defeat * tolla’”” , was lone. At3P. M. a vote was taken on a motion to strike Mr. Traman’s name from the This by a eiili larger majority. The committee now stands:—Mesers, P. P. Murpby, Grant and Seerions. BVENING SBSSION. The enacting clause was stricken out of the bill to pro- vide for the State Board of Claims. ‘The bili to secure the public peace on the Sabbath was the ordered to a third reading. Mr. Ketculam presented @ remonstrance against Harbor Masters’ bili, signed by sixty-three persons en- geged in the freighting business on the Hudgeob river. On motion of Mr. Hammoyp, the rule that no bill shall be ordered to the third reading without 1g through the Committee of the Whole, was rescinded for the balance of the sersion. On motion of Mr. Fiero, a grinding committee of eight ‘Was appointed to move forward bills, except such as ap- Pro) rine me or grant railroad franch'ses. rel city of Brookiyn was recommiited for amendment. je bill to prevent fraud in the transfer of stock was debated and progress reported. The bill to provide ease. Mr. J. McLeop Murpny rej cen'racters in removing the of New York from interference or damage irom veasels. Adjourned, Assembly. Alpany, March 23, 1860. fir. A. Sarma (dem.) made a minority report against the propoved amendments of the New York city charter, charging that the bill was a measure not having its origin im the House, but concocted by Mayor Wood and the ro- publican Comptroller of the city, who agree to divide the power of patronage between them, and trust to the repub- Moan majority of the Legislature to guard their joint in- terest. The report reviews ably the condition of the city Proposed amendments government, and argues that are not in the intertst of the city. ‘The Governor sent in a message the New York tax levy, a) miseioners of Records. The whole bill was @ recommendation to the House to reconsider the objec- before the House is:—Shall tiorable item. The Srzakgr—The question the bill paes, despite the veto of the Governor? A debate eprang up on the constitutional point whether the vote and amend the Dill, but a vote was eventually taken on the passage of the House could now reconsider the bill over the Governor’s veto. Mr. CoxxuxG strongly urged the House to refuse to page the bill, stating bis intention to revive it imme- diately, in apotber form. A vote then was much excitement, and the veto sustained, the motion being lost by 56 to 60. Mr. Fisur called up the majority report adverse to the Dill to limit the fare to one cent between New York and Brooklyn. ‘The vote io thes with the report was reconsidered af- ter @ protracted and spirited debate. Mr. Briccs then moved to substitute the minority re- port in favor of the bill, for the majority report. Before the question was put louse took a recess till four o'clock. A meszege was received from the Senate, stating that that body insists on its amendments to the Railroad Toll dill, and asking a committee of conference. Mr. FLscier moved that a committee of conference be eppointed — Carried. : jeesr8. Flagler, Wiley, Collins, Finch and Fulton were then ap. ointed « Committee on the part of the House. ‘The firet annual report of the Superintendent of the In- surance Department was received. The Ten GoverPors of the New York Almshouse sent in @ copy of their lest annual report in reply to the resolu- tion of inquiry adopted by the Assembly. Mr. Coorgr deemed the reply evasive and tory, and moved the it of investigate the affairs an investigation was hye ry ‘Mr. ConkuixG opposed the on the ground that | motion, perce pom woe ted $6,060 on the State, when the information could be obtained without it. ‘The motion was laid on the table. The remainder of the session was consumed in the oon- sidcration of claim bills. i ‘The bill to abolish capital'punishment_ was taken up. ir. Rosixson epoke ia favor of the bill, repudiating the Scripture arguments used by the of the bill. The end and aim of was the prevention of crime. Punishment was only justifiable to this extent To beyond the boundary ‘was to seek to gratify a desire of vengeance. He argued that perpetual imprisonment would be as effective as the death. penalty in prevention of the crimes of arson and murder. Fear of death never deters murder, for when that crime ts committed the fiercest passion of human pa- ture is excited, and personal safety is disregarded. He believed that crime would be more effectually prevented pe aps public good promoted by the abolishment of the lath penasy. Mesers AnccLanrus, Powerit and Coxcumay spoke in favor of the bill. Mr. Wrxy made an able argument against the bill. Mr. Finctt also 5 death penalty, an which provides that the death be inflicted for treaton and murder in the first de- gree. der of @ person by assaesination, or any other wil- ful, deliberate, premeditated killing; or murder while perpetratin arson, rape, robbery or burglary. The jury is to ind in the verdict whether the murder be in the firet or seoond degree. No person is to be executed witbin one year after ihe sentence, nor until the Governor ieeucs @ warrant for ths execution. Mr. MiLukEN supported the substitute, After a long debate the motion to substitute Mr. Finch’s Dill was lost—41 to 51. Tue bill was then, at 11 P. M., ordered to a third read. ing—39 to 28. AMoursed. THE $100,000 BREACH OF PROMISE. The Case of Miss Effie Carstang Against Mr. Shaw in St. LoultAttempts to Break Down Miss Carstang’s Character—The Alleged Inumacy between P. Sea. and Eflle=Effie’s De of the ry Notes Filed by S Celeb: Interes' ing Developements, &c, TENTH DAY. Tho celebrated $100,000 breach of promise suit was re- sumed in the Court of Common Pleas yesterday—the tenth day of the trial. There is no diminution in the crowd pre sent; on the contrary the interest is ingreasing. The jurors bear themselves weil; there bas not becn a single com. plaint or utterance of dissatisfaction {rom one of them as Jet, although at the atjournment of the Coart yesterday afternoon, they had been in the Jjuror’s box about sixty hours. A new feature ip yesterday's proceedings was the presence of an artist eketchirg the scene, for one of the New York iMustrated paprrs—zo that we shall even have a wood cut illustrating the progreas of the case. TESTIMONY OF WITNESSES FOR THE DEFENDANT. The Court yesterday morning was occupied almost ex- clusively with the hearing of testimony from parties liv- ing cut of the State. All the aepoeitions read had refe- rence more or less to the characters borne by the plaintiff and ber sister at the time that they lived in the city of New York or Brooklyn, They are very voluminous, oc- cupying hundreds of pages in the book in which they are bound together for convenience of reference, and we shall not bore our readers with a yerbatim report of all the questions and answers contained therein. We shall merely give euch extracts as we think calculated to interest the public, leaving out whateyer seems to us not to haye any direct bearing upop the main irueg In the case. DEPOSITION OF MOSES MONTGOMERY. Ilive in Brooklyn; was acquainted with piaintif and relations; the reputation of the sisters was bad. I don’t know positively that old Mrs. houre, but thatewas the character of the house; don’t know whether or rot the sisters were inmates of the house, but they were associates of Mrs, Seaman’s family, and frequented it; the other girls that visited there were considered loose, and they acted so; 1 knew the Hemp- stead girls; they frequented the eaid Mra. Seaman’s house, and their reputation was chockingiy bad; have noticed conduct in the house which is cousitered improper; have feen men visiting that house as late as twelre o'clock at night; they sometimes came in carriages to the door; they were bend men; have seen such conduct in that house a8 hallooing, hogging, ke: the house was in the Wi dout; the father of plaintiff was considered a very man; I have no recollection of seeing the Hom and oe irls together; the houses of Mra. Seaman and Giteon lang adjoined; do not know the inti per- sovally, ner her sister either; 1 believe Drs Seaman dovgbt the property on which sbe lived and built a house on it; the character of the houre I hoard from Abrabam Tilton, Jo Hopkins, John F. Loyd, Henry Gercdette, — Sinker, Chas. Rykle, Thos. Higbée. Joh Wileon an others; Tilton is now dead, Hopkins lives in Brooklyn and keeps the Montague Hotel, near the Gty Hall; Lloyd keeps a public house at the Bedford depot, Gero-lette ia a police officer in New York city, Minker lives on Flushing avenue, in Brooklyn; they oped lightly of the pits cha- yacter; I raw the hugging above alluded to through the dow glass; Emma Hermpstead (Cunningham-Burdell was St this time (1845) fifteen or 8} nm years of tt think ber repvtation was bad; 1don’t know anything ccntrary to _ character of the Garstang girle either from my cwn k.10wledge or from general reputation, whilethey lived in the Wallabout. " ° DRPOFITION OF MARTIN EVANS, Live in Brook’); know the repvtation of the Garstang girls from genera! Tumor; it wag bad; they would buy orders of business 8 to 14—thus evinc- committee. was oarried 19 to 12, and @ motion to insert Mr. Session’s name carried ive to the land under water in front of the for the publleation of election notices in fifteen papers in New York city, was ordered .o a third da bill to protect the nd reef in the harbor vetoing the clause in $193,821 for Com- the people. t opponents ke against the abolishment of the offered @ substitute for the bill, penalty shall only Murder in the first degree is defined as mur- weThe ed Baker, Cochranc’s Evidence after ~ noene Jooee, but campet specify cd about her; I was at one time an of Brooklyn; there was a house which rumor states was to be occupied fame; rumor said it was to be occu! Sama, who I bave reason to believe was tion to the Caretang family; bave been 17 or 18 years of a; hood was that her Y 1 resid® in Brooklyn; know plaintiff's family Tempstead gi tbe Garstang and Hempstead girts were sequainted with each otbe! shbor to ‘be Carstepgs for a number of yeare, and was with old Mr. Ca-stang; I bave nover seen anything of my pergona! knowledge, which coud be det! the family’s characte Charleston in 1844 or him; he afterwards went to Philadelphia and died there; plaintifY and sister were at their mether’s funeral; | saw plaintif’s father after he returned from Charleston; he was in ¢ heajtb; Ineyer heard that he was com- pelled to go to Charleston on account of hig bealth, but he may beve so svffered from his wife's death as to be af. , ment of it in 1838 or ’39; be bad some difficulties at that time; the fag I thine alter wards, passed into the bands of plaintiff; ‘that old Mr. Cauptang aid not leave a will; there was no ad- min‘stration on bis estate; I did not know he bad apy land after removing to Brooklyn; I think at the time he veyed bis bouse cn Kent avenue in Brooblyn, he said it was worth $3,000; bave not seen the Carstang and Homp- ttead girls logetber, except at churoh. . DEPOSITION OF WILLIAM JULIEN. Live in Brooklyn; knew the Carstang family by reputa- tion only; knew the sisters by sight; their reputation at beret wes bad; I vee bearers blocks and « half of them; they mere.genersily about as being loove; they were algo at thmee pointed out to me in the street: Stephen Burch told me that he visited the plaintiff; Frank Lieyd and Harcin Bobbs have talked to me about her; Lioy 4 was in the penitentiary about nine months. Mr. Shepley next proposed to offer the testimony of MR SILAS H. CROWEN. Mojor Wright arose to object to it, on the ground of irreleveney; he could not ree what the deposition had to co with the issues in the cage. Judge Lackland eaid that the Court had well seen the ipcopsietepcy of Mrs. Seaman in her testimony, and now, by going back to former years and examining into the trepesctions of the family, they coald find whether wit- nees bad spoken the truth or not. Judge Reber said be understood the testimony to be offered wes with re, to the pecuniary circumstances of the father of Fifie Carstang. Judge Dackland resumed by pofeering tothe statement of witness implying that ber father |, upon his death, left pe operty. ‘Now, they wanted to show that that was not the teuth. Th® Court ruled that the circumstances of laintiff and ber elster were proper subjects for inquiry, ee et nr oe a a ie eng reer 100 far. The Do agp was accordingly sustained. - Mr. John Lewis baving _ sia bameres imto Court, testi- fled as follows:— ‘TERTIMONT OF MR. JOHN LEWIS. Ben thle sult wan St brought; saw ‘le Carviang it when an firs ; sw in the Clerk's office with ber counsel, looking Kore a com eat oe gave any notes to Mr. wr. LAT Oe. sae wre o 10 the counse! wor in the mouth of witness; he wanted the questions to be put in a legal way. ‘Witness continues—Mr. Hannegan obtained the notes and asked Mizs C. if they were her notes? She said they Jooked like ber handwriting, but she did not think she ever wrote any notes to Mr Shaw; a denial was then made out by Mr. Hicks reid but I don’t know that it was offered in the case; | thin! left in Mr. Hanne- gan’s cflice were? Objected to, and objection sustained. 1 took the denial out to Mr. Hennegan’s office myself, at the instance of Mr. Hicks; J gave it to Mr. Hannegan; he tovk it, and ] never saw it since. Mr. Shepley proceeded to read depositions. DEPOSITION OF JESSIE GILHERT. T reside in Brockiyn; knew the Carstang family; used to be hor; the reputation of the sisters for virtue and chastity, eo far as heard of it, was bad; I used to see & good many efrangers visit there; cannot eon, the hour at which they vieited; do not know the Hempetead girls; I cannot tell whether the men who visited the Cars- tang girls were gentlemen or not; they (the girls) were considered rather “bigh characters;”’ iz, fond of tbe men in the vicioue senge of the word. D*POSTION OF JOEN E WILDRSTH. Live in Brooklyn; am in the ban! business; knew the Carstang femily; the reputation of sistera for vir- d cbustity was bad; 1 was one of the trustees of the churcb.at which Mr. Carstang attended; the conduct of Fife when at church was rather unbecoming at times; gentlemen and ladies, 1 think, eat apart in the church that period; bave seen Mise Carstang Javgbing and talking across the aiele with a gentleman, whom I felt it preper afterwards to reprove; Knew the Hempstead, girls; their Teputatiog from he was very bad; I do not know whether they ever wisited the Carstang ; bave heard that Mies Emma Avgusta Hempstead and Effie Car- steng were very intimate. Q. This Emma Hempstead, or Emme Cuno! 1» of whcm you have epeken, will you state whether is the fame woman who was charged tet ers — of Dr. will, ames been begotten by of her? that she is the same person; Emma Avgusts was her name. = Q. What were you tried for, if anything? A. I don’t kpow of anything. Q. Do you mean to say that you-were never suzpected or tried to your knqwiedge for the offence or crime of baving poigoned 'Y A. No, sir, never; I mean what Te ray. Q "rave you po knowledge now of what I refer to? A. Ite all Greek to me; I don’t know what you refer to, 1am sure. ‘arsociated with a criminal ce, tte perticulare of which were ubdlished in the Now Yor« Herat, in any way? A. I don’t recollect of any; 28 I said before, it is all Greek to me. i Q. Were you a witness in either of the Cunningham- Burdell prosecutions? A. I wag, in the investigation as to the murder of Burcell before the Coroner’s jury. ‘THOMAS BIGHY’S DEPOSITION. Reside in Brooklyn; ama rope maker; know the Car- ttong femily; I used to sce the sisters; know nonis, the general reputation of Effie; beard people say that*they (the sister#) were pretty ‘high atrung’’ girls; knew the Hempetcad girls; they would attend the came church with the Caretang gira; and in going to it they would for a dis- tance have to walk the same way; thoy lived about two blocks apart from each other. JAMES FERGUSON'S DEPOSITION. Live in Brooklyn; am a lawyer; knew old Mrs. Seaman; she rented a house from me in New York; Effie lived there with her, and 80 did one or two other relatives; also Mr. ‘ton, who bad a laundry; I know aman named ve teen him about the houee; thongbt I did not see Mary Seeman in the honse, so far as 1 could recollect, but upon my recollection being refreahed by a description of her, I thought 1 bad eeen her there; knew Barton; he broke jail‘ Chicago; I pever knew the Hurleys ta do an honest thing tn all their lifetime; they were inmates of the house; Barton was an incorrigible liar and thief; I nevor knew a man by the name of Ocborn, the hueband of Mra. ab; I took Mre. Seaman to be widow; I heve seen kffite Carstang and John P. Seaman Up stairs toge- ther, but never saw them come out of the same sleeping reom; they so behaved towards each other as to lead me to suppoee that they would be engaged; 1 went into the bascment—Iit might be about ten or eleven o'clock ia the evening—and-l think all the parties were out of the house that evening except Mrs. Seaman, (she hardly ever went out); Icame through the first two doors (the hal! base- ment docr and the b:sement door,) and Mies Caratang and Jobn were there when I opered the door; they both eppeared dieconcerted; that is about as much a I can eay; I turned ont directly and went away. Q. Did you potice any disarrangement of Miss Effie’s dress or bair on that Occasion? A. I cannot say that I observed. aby Cirarrargement of her clothing or hair, but she was very much flushed. Q. When you first entered the base- ment and got a eight of them, were they eitting, standing or lying? A. They were both standing. Q’ How far apart? A. I should think almost touching; they ed as though both were moving; they were both stan dei mean they were ir feet. Q. Can you give us the rela- ve posi to when,they were there on their feet? A. The dest of my recolicction is that Mr. Seaman stood between me and Miss Caratang, and they were not tmmediately factng each other; his back was turned to- wards me, apd bis side towards Miss Carstang. Q Was there apy furniture, rettee or chairs in ‘that room? A. , of course, but [can’t tell how it was furnished— how many or how few. Q Do you remember any other furniture in that room? A. There was table and a stove; Was not your name the room ye aware thatany one was there? A. I was a little glimmering light from the stove; I have seen them get up in company at it and retire one shortly after the other, but they would not get up and take leave of the company as man and wife; I have no doubt Jobn P. Seaman was @ married man at the time; bave also known Mre. Seaman to live on Liberty street; 4 the time when Mrs. Seaman lived in Ames street, (Eile living with her,) old Mr. Carstang lived in Brooklyn; I think Fe then lived with her aunt and visited her father; ‘Mies Dicseendor! also was one of the inmates of Mra. Sea man’s house ; do not know what her reputation was; Effis was frequently at the laundry, 80 was Miss Dicsseldorf; have reen Tilton and Hopkins there; have known the young ladies (Miss Carstang and Miss Diessendorf) to be carried op a milk wagon, or @ wagon of some kind, be- tween the launcry and the house by them. DEPOSITION OF CHAS. D. BUTLER. J live in Brooklyn; I knew Effie Carstang and her sister when they lived in Brook!yn; their general reputation and stancing was bad; did.not know the Hempstead ‘Is; John P. Seaman at that time bad a tailor ehop on way, New York; he bought a milk establish. ment, and I took charge of it; never conversed with laintit tbat I know of; Abraham Tilton and fr kins spoke to me concerning Miss Effie’s being a Keore character ; cannot remember any particular words; tha was some six cr neven years after I left Jobn P. Seaman's employ; heard about Mise Car- etang feven or ight cars Tf my first acgusintance with the Carstang family; I once heard that Mizs Car. etang waeinthefamly way. Q. When? A. When they resided in Kent avenue, but whether it was true or not T can’t tell; that was the talk. Q. Did that rumor affect her sister alo? A. I can’t gay. Q. Did you.evor hear that her sister Mary was in the family A. Nor, sir; if she bad been I dep'tsuppese there would have been to much talk ebout it, for she was a married woman. Q, Besides the rumor as to Fife’ with child, were there other general rumors affecting general charac ter for virtue and chatty? A. As I stated hefore, her character did rot stand very man faidthat he heard that Fie was in the family a Q. When? A. Can’teay wi Carstargs) reeided on Kentavenue. Q. Who sent when be enid to? A. Can’t answer; heard the con- vereation in Foreman’s ehop, and bave beard ft barroom wk; in Wilron’s barroom. Q. Did yeu hear it from apy person who wes a visiter at her father’s house? A, Believe that Hopking used to visit there, and baye + ie ae Q@ That he bad heard of —? 4. NEW ¥ORK HERALD, SATURDAY, MARCH 24, 1860.—1RIPLE SHEET. ‘now her when you lived on Kent avenue? A. Yes, str, @. Did you visit tbe plaintif’s father’s house when you Barse' avenue? A. T 44 two or I reside tu Brooklyn; am a physician; practised in the did you eg A Mus pth reputation of the sleters was not File and 3 low long was that after you capnot rtate any particular fact; a man by the wert to live on avenue? <A. i should say usea to board with the family; I am not | from two to three years, Q How long had you reonally aware of Effie baving been in the | been living on Fraskila avenue. when you first y imprerston is ‘Iwasa not the reguier | saw and became acquainted with haa iD, Tattended Mre. Seaman (plaiutiPesis- | A. I should ray between two and three of ain! she was s mgrried years; over two years. Q Did you live on Franklin avo- bue when these things occured of which you bave spoken | between plaintiff and youree!f in your direct examination® J4MES C. RHODE'S DEPOSTON. | A. [believe not, sir; 1 cannot exectly’recoliest the day I lve in Brooklyn; knew the Carstang sisters; their | and date. Q. Have you reen the plaintiff since she lived reputation was not considered good; knew old Mra. Sea. | on Kent svenue! A. No,eir, Q loug was it before man; I and my brother built her a house, which, Iunder- | ebe left Kent avenue that you lastsaw her? a. I could 2 stood, wae used ass bouse of ill-repute; old Mrs. Hemp- | notesy. Q. How many times did you sey that you haverp stead introduced me to hirs Seaman; I thiok that was the | taken the liberties mentioned with plaintiff, to wit: the ° motber of Kmma Hempstead, of notoriety; the | libertics of placing your hand on her person? A. Corstang and Hempstead girls would communicate with | Twice. Q Is tbat the fact that you had done so twice? each otber; I think the Hempstead girls occasiona}ly went | A. Yea, sir. Q. Where did thatooour? A, Once in her to attend prayer meeting ip the house of Mr. Carstang. father’s bovze and once io Mr. Wascail’s. Q Did any- DEPOSITION OF aS COCHRANE. ae fi Tg —, at the a te did 80 at Oe yi Fiatiané avenue, in the city of Brooklyn. douse? A. it my ban jer bosom. «2 " piatc’at New ‘York. @ ‘Do. You know of any body's | thing else oocer at that time? A, Tpefuse, to auswer that lupderetood; when she miscarried ber busband. it im ree with Effie Carstang’ A. Ican’t | question. Q. I mean atthe time that you were at bor : J Lerten ge Q. Doyou mean that youcan’t, Riher's house the first time with her? A. No, non did bat you refuse to answer it? A. 1 refuge to answer it, | not take spy improper liberties wih the plaiotiff the first: A. I don’t know that I haveany time I was at her father’s house. Q. Atwhich time did [The Commission here @ Why co you refuse? You first take Improper Nberties with her at her father's right to answer that question. jest of Mr. Lackland, the couneel for uec? A, second or third time I was at ber father’s: Gefencunts be (the Commissioner) explained to the wit- | toure. Q Cen you state which it was, whether the 89- ners the rights, privileges and duties of a witness), after | cond or thiid? A. 1 thik it was the third time to the which explanation the witness on the stand answered as Vest of my knowledge. Q. If y follows to the Commission, to wit:—‘I do not wish to iat that ou covise with her was time? Q. That does Sai: I bound to commit myself?’ | twer that question. not make you state O"By Mr Tnerinnd. ‘fave you not, youreelf, at divers tbat you bad euch intercourse, but I — if you ever times, bad idlicit intercourse Effie Carstang? A. I | bad at ary other time than that—if at Al refure to answer that question. Q. refuse? Because I co not wish to, Q Wi don’t you wish to answer that question’ A. I don't ‘wisb to crimipate myself. Q. Do you know of Eilie Cars- pobre | illicit intercouree with any body beside your- eel? A. I do not. Q Are you a married man? A. I Why do you | snewer that. ‘Well, sir, on your oath, did you ever in id » our Iife bave illicit intercourse at any time place with tre plaint' ff? A I refuse-to answer. ‘The plaintifl’s counsel bere requests to compel the witpers to ayewer the Commysioner informs plaintils cou * bave been married? A. 1 | Fower foto compel, but the Comuilesioner offers to in- tees posateortina ante twendy-+90 Years, as nearas I | ttruct the witness upon bis duties under the oath he has ean recollect; I have my third wife now. Q Did you | taken as a witnees In this case, and pp snaheech bie, ever visit Effie Carstang, and ifso, what year, as near as whereupon the ‘witners says, ‘I refuse’ to answer 340, some conan vo the aned etal 7 “O Wwere 9 wee aE Do you mean by your refusal to answer to conve! el ou . ORUREan mansetnee Cae Single man, on pa firet ac- | the idea that you crimipate yourself if an- qvaiptance; as for date I can’t be positive; | am taken unawares. Q. Did you ever visit her after 1840, and if £0, at what of time? A. If] did, it wae at her own bovee. Q ve after 1840 A. I was in company with ber after 1840, but I can’t give the date Q. Between 1838 apo 1840 did youever kiss and hug Effie Carstang? ‘A. Lrefeee to answer that. [At the request of Mr. Lack: | oftener, that you never bad your Bands poo her person. lend, the counsel for the defendant, the Commissioner | butonce? A. No, sir. Q Pat you that you bad bere stated to the witness that the acts inquired for ia the | your bands vpon her person, but that not re- last question, if done by the witness, did not constitute | collect how often, becauee you never kept count of them? apy such offence io the law as would subject the witness | A. I think I esid two or three times. Where did you 40 criminal prosecution; and aleo that it is the daty of the witnese to tell the truth if inquired for, and if the same be pertipent to the iseue in this sult. The Commissioner further states that the plaintiff, who is present, demands tha: the witness shall answer said last question, to wit: “Between 1838 and 1840, did you ever kiss or hug Effie Caretang,”’ and in reply to said question, the said witness first become acquainted with the A. On avenue. Q. How koe did you SR fore you married your first wife? A. I could not say; lt: don’t recollect. Q. About how A. I don’t recol- x married your first wife? A. Overa year. Q Didn't you fay that you lived in Kent avenue two or three years be- Q Do you know what the contents of the answers apewered an follows: “Yee, sir.””) Q How many times? A. 1 could nottell; Inever keptcouct of them Q. Did you kies and hug ber inthe day time or night? A. ‘Afor fore you married your firet wife? A. Not that I recollect: of. Q. If you did say, so, was it true? A. II did eay so it was true as near as I could — | dark. Was there any person present when you | a8 tear at I could get at it at the time. Q How ek ce bogged her, exbept yours? A. No, ey long before you were married was it tbat you bad the Q. Where was it you ki and Sugepe her; was it | interview when you took the ‘iberties with plaintiff at her on the street, in a bouse, or where? A. In her father’s | father’s hovee as you stated on your direct exam’ house Q. When you kissed and hugged her in her | A. Ican'tsay. @. About bow long? A. Icould not say. father’s house, wasshe dressed or undressed? A She | Q Was ita mopth before your marriages & Yes, a3 wos creseed. Q. How many times have you kissed and | over tbat. Q Was it a year? A. It might be. Q I Trigg Mappa ak caps age A. Tcouldn’t say, sir. | might be 2 number of years, but cannot you tell how Q. Were you cver in bed with her between 1838 and 1840, | mary? A. It was snumber of years; I should judge it when you were a y men?’ A. No, sir. Q. Were | war one year. Q What was one year? A. [ mean the you ever in or on a bed with her at any time? A. I was | time that elapsed between those liberties at her father’s on abed with her. Q. How many times? A I was house and my firat marrisge, it was probably a year—it night—the op}y night I can recollect of. .Q. Was there | may have been over. Q How long was it before your any one elee present when you and she were on the bed} | first marriage that those liberties occurred at Wascall’s . Yer, eir. Q Did you at any time ever have your | hous? A. Irefuse to aoswerthet. Q Why? A. I'do hand in the bogom of Effie Carstang’? A. Yes, eir, I } not wish to answer it. Q. Whieh occurred first, the liber- have. Q. How many times have you had your hands in | ties taken at her fatber’s house, or those taken at Was- her bosom. A. Can’tsay ; two or three times, proba- | call’s hovse? A. Thore taken at her father’s house. bly. Q. Did you ever feel her naked breaets? A. Yes, | Q. Bow lorg before? A. I don’t recollect. Q State aboat sir. Q How many ’ A. Two or three times, * | bow long, whether i: was di the seme season. A I * * © # Q. Did you never feel Effie’s person | cannot say how long. Q. How wasit before you apywhere except in her father’s house? A. Yes, «ir. Q. State every other place. A. Once at Jobn Wascall’s houge; he kept a garden for Alderman Cross; the house was called ‘ Bachelor’s Hajl.”” Q. Who lived in the houre called “The Bachelor’s Hally’ A. John Wascall. Q. Were you and Effie ever in John Wescall’s house? A. Yes, sir. eo the daytime or in the night? A. In the night. Q. How did you/come there together? A. I used to go there most every hight. Q Dia you and Effie go to John Wascail’s house separately or together? A. Separately. Q. Before you got to Jobn Wascall’s house did you know that she would be there? No, sir. Q. Do you know who came, if anybody, with EMfle that night to Jobn Waecall’s house? A. Some young lady or other; I think ber sister, Mre. ; 1 will not be cer- tain. Q. Anybody elas? A. I believe not; not to my. knowledge. Q How many rooms were there in that house of John Wascall’s? A. I think buttwo, one room anda kitchen. Q. How did ric, Lanpen to meet Effie Carstang there that night; was it jentally or by Nr were rarried that you took the liberties with plaiatiff at ‘Wascall’s house? A. { refuse ‘o answer. cur previous to your marriage? A. I refase to Q Have you not alresdy-said that it did? a. What didi Q The liberties you took with plaintiff at Wiscall’s. A. bave not said s0. Q. Were not there two rooms to Was- cali’s house? “A. There were two rooms; there was a. partition between them. Q. Were each of them the same size? A. ithipk not. Q. What was the size of the largest of the two? A. Not very large; don’t recollect. the size. Q Was the jerge one the sitting room? A. Itwas. Q. What frniture was there in it? A Very little, achair or ti rhatever you call it jacture; he eaid it was. Q. Being a poor ma, Teuppore he (Wasoall) did not have y bedatead there than that bunk, did he? A. Not attbat time. Q. When cid he ever have any other? A. I don’t recollect of his ever having any other. Q. Where did that bunk or bed stand in the room? A; On the north side of the house. .poimtment? A. At |. Q. When ypu first saw roome at the time you plaintiff were in there? A. that night was she on the street or in house? A. She | No,mr. Q. Why did shut the door? A. I don’t: came into the garden while I was there. ‘Q. What became | know that there was Q Did you take any of the other woman who wos there? A. As near as I can | liberties with the plaintiff previous to 1888? A. I belicve: think they were together in the garden looking thr: ; | I9id; T could not speak positively. Q. Did you between "Hise nt pee tetesseparated to my no Wied. 3 1888 and 1840? A. I can’t the dates, sir, and eitber or both of m in that house of 's that | capnot recollect years Q brent dicks: Ln you did not. night? A. Both of them. Q. State whether you felt the | believe—1838 and 1840. 1 don't of bey MOF Teon of brag: Pay Le pad Wascati’s |-Q. Did you not lay cown with her in the bunk at Was. ouse that night? A. Yes, sir. Q. Where was the other | <all’s, by her side? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you not there ‘woman at the time you were doing that? A. Inthe room. ‘ut your under her dress? A. sir, Q Did Q_ State whether she was in the same room that you and | ‘ou do anything more? A. I put my hand on her person. ‘were in at the time? A. I think she was in the same Did you have any illicit intercoarse with her? A. room or the kitchen; it was not far off—not over ten feet. | No, sir. Q. Why didn’t you? A. Didn’t wish to. Q Di Q When you were feeling of Effie Carstang’s perron in Jou cver lay upona bed or bunk with het more than Watcall’s house, was there any other person im that house | once? A. ), sir. Q. Did you ever feel her person at pe taper age Re ig a A. Yes, | ber father’s houre more than once? A. Yes. sir. Didn’t tir, Q. Who was that other person? A. Mr. Wasoall. | youeay you never did more than once at her father’s ‘What is bis firet name? A. John. Q. Ishe living or | }ovse? ‘A. Not that I know of. Q. Where was the balance lead? A. Dead. Q. Do you know what he was doing at cf the family when you did so at her father’s house? A, tbat particular moment? A. Carrying on with the | Don’t know, couldn’tsay. Q. In which room was it? A. other girl, I believe: laughing and joking. Q. Did | Thefrontroom. Q. Were the doors of the room open? they ree you? <A. That’s more than I can tell | A. No, sir. Q. Was there abedthere? A. No, sir. Q. What jou; they saw us carrying on ; We bad all | did yousay toner, orehe to you at tbat time in said front D Latte Fe ee og TE , for, some time. | roem of her father’s house’ A. Don’treoolect. Q. Don’t you Q. How long did Effie and other woman and Wascall | recollect anything you eaid to her, er she to you? A We and youreelf remain in Wascall’s house that night? A. I | must have said somethin; ; T refuse to answer any further could not say how long we were in the house; a little | to that . Q Hberties did you take with Phe aagerge pes comer Sy wich ad Ewer rotate cahaears know thatI took avy dczen times. ‘Where ou An jat time. yi Previous to 1838 that night? A. In front of door; ber father's hoor, " Refuse to anewer tbat question. Why do you re- 5 ee ot tae cee ar ee ee fore to answer ? ‘A. Because I cannot be positive to By with her?. A. She was with her. Q. became | the rear. Q. You cannot be to the of what? the cther woman after you et ee A. Cannot be ve that I took any with her A. ‘They went into the house.’ Q. Together? A. Yes, sir. | previous to 1638. Q. Why did you say juet now that you Q. Whose house did they go into? A. Mr. Carstang’s. liberties with her prior to 1836? A. Not positively. Q Don’t you know who that other woman was? A. I | Q Have you aby doubt about it that you did prior to 1838 ? could not tell for certain; I tnink it was her sister; I] | A. J cannot tell the year, and would not like tomy. Q. might be mistaken; it was a good while ago. Q: Did you Dak yon Eaey Toe Dever Oil vitor #9 168 A. T can’t ever ee that other woman about the house of Mr. Cars- | be . ys didn’t you say you were not ac- tang at any other time? A. I cannot say; I cannot recol- juainted with until you moved into Kent avenue! lect; if it was her sister I have seen her around the house . Not to paowietee Q. If you did say 80, would @ good meny times afterwards: I don’t know whether it |. pot you A. I should ik I would. Q If you was or not; I would not swear to it; to the best of my | did tay it, wapittrueorfalee? A. Thave not said aoy- kpowledge she was. Q. Did yousee Effie at John Was- | thirg ive about it; if T said go, it was true to the beat. call’s boure upon apy other occasion than the night you | of my knowledge. Q. Whetber you said so or not, isn’t have mentioned? A. Sa Q. How many times have | it true to the best of your knowledge? A. It is true, I you geen her there at house? A. Icouldn’tsay; she | was acquainted with her before I moved into Kent ured to go there to get flowers; she poe ne eS pete avenue. Q Didn’t you say last Saturday im your ex- often, the garden. Q. Was Jobn Wascall a married or | amivstion that you bad seen her before you moved Single map? A. An old bachelor; he used to be called | into Kent avenue, but that you were mot then ac- 80; I don’t know whether he was or not. Q. Did any | quainted with her. A. I was acquainted with her by ‘women live in the house of John Wascall? A. No, sir. | seeing her ; I might have been introduced to Q. Who was Jobn Wascall, and what did he do? | moved into Kent avenne, but I am not certain. A. He oy ny garden the second lot from the Cars- | you tell me on Sati tangs; he had a piece of ground of four or five fots, and | curred between yor used to raise vegetables. Q On his own account or | linavenue? A. I liberties. man and, put him (Wascall) there to raise vegotables far | were taken while I lived on Franklin avenue. Q. Where Crose, atter leaving Kent avenue Croes put up a bullding | was Jobn Forbush when you hugged and kissed the plaia- for Wascall to live in on this garden of his. Q. State | til? ‘A. In her father's. house. Q. Who else was there whether that building that Cross put up is the house you | then? A. Myself, noone else. Q. Was it day or night > have etated where you felt Efe Carstang? A. Yes, sir. | A. In the evening, Q. When was it—where did you live: * * * # * Q. Now, Mr. Cochrane, 1 will ask you this | there? A. I can’t be live what year it was, nor Umea e you ever bad sexual intercourse with | where Ilivedthere. Q. Was Mary (plainti(e.sister) mar- 2 Carstang, between 1838 and 1840 or at any other time | rie¢ when you took thoee liberties with Plaintif? calls house? A. I could not say, sir. Q. looking was the y = a ee be omen who was st Wascall’s gar. recollect, sir. A. Because I ‘as you thought? @ What pings A. Her sister Mary. Q. ght eeretns appearing woman was her sister Mary? A. A small ound sbeulJered-rat thet tine tbe was so. “Did Jone, when you were a single man? A. I refuse to answer that question. The Commissioner here stated, that at the request of Mr. Lackland, he (the Commissioner) stated to the witness that sexual intercourse between an femele and an unmarried man is not an offence by the Jaws of the €tate of New York, which would subject them or either of them to a criminal ion, Jand be again informed witness that he had _swornto | Forbush know tbat yousaw him bug and kiss laintit?” tell the truth in relation to the matter in controversy in this | A. Yc, sir. Q. What did he say about it? A. Buit. anon Seas eee sen Stee have | particular. Q. Didn’t you and he talk fexual intercourse with wohaun Cae it? A. No, sir; 1 ’t know as any remarks you were a single man? A. Irefvsetoanswer Q Why were made about it, Q. Was that before or after you do wi refure? A. Because I don’t wish to answer. | hugged and kissed her? A. Before. Q Did you go Q. Why don’t you wish to answer? A. I don’t care to plaintifi’s father's house every time you went there? A. abdovt ‘apswering, and I don't think I will answer. | No, sir. Q. Whom did you go with? A. Jonn Forbush. Q Did you ever pay Effieapy money. A. No, sir; never | Q. ‘Did you ever meet any’ ly else there as visiter in the: raw im want of » Q. Dit you ever give | house?’ A. Not to m: knowledge. some of “4 her a else besides money? A. Never to my | tiff’s relations. Q. Who of the r A. Sea- know! , sir; might hace given hercome little men end Augustus Seamen; I don’t recollect any one else. Q. Doyou kuow of any body else besides yourself , | in particular; of Indies, I saw there Maria Seamen an: bt Polen ed en ee A. ye aoe Rareli Seaman; meme em nro Q Do you remem- at quer wo ; bave seen others TF conversing with these persons—the relations? her; as to the latter’ pati of the answer, have not. o A. Ido . we ‘Who were the persons or person you saw kiss and hu; None in particular; ‘were boys together; can could be certain of. * * . Was r=} person in that room when you were } ‘with Effie on the bunk? | your examination according to your best. A. Yee, tir. Q Were the: ih ke game room at that | knowledge and belief? knowled, Se ioe tes ieee ere ter | ae e + em on. court then 4 . Q How far wen Waseill’s bouge that One Wart a ta mae from Carstang’s? A. About a block and a half; the space between them was the lin avenue and Skillman etreet; never measured it; suppose G.'Did you ev¥r Kis, hug oF feel of ary Seas . you evtr kiss, or Eite's ster? “A. T hav kieted and hugged he z urther. Q. Did ices kiss and hi kylarkirg. Q you ie, state whether she was City Intelligence. Youa Man's Drwocranic Usiow Cun ~The usual week- ly meeting of this Club was held last night af No. 8 Union square, Mr. -H. P. Carr, President, in the Chair. After the traneaction of the usual routine business, Mr. Benson offered the following resolution :— was a young woman. Q. pose m your best judgment? ears old; seventeen; can’t hirer ou follow for a li . 10 you w am a steam engineer by trade; I don’t carry on business of my trade now, 1 speculate in pota- toes and hay; Prey Re Seman and ‘sell to shippers in New York. +3 did you do at the time of kissing, bugging and feeling? A. 1 was working for my father. Q How old were you then? A. From twenty to twenty- one years old. Q What were you doing for your father at the time of the kissing and hugging and feeling of Er- tear” What Ths ac” uate cleaning fare. % ie prc Cross-examipation.—Q. Where did you }i you ever Faw the plaintiff, EMlle Cartang? A” Frankie avenve. Q. How old was she then, as far as you could observe? A. I don’t know; she was a good sised girl. Q. About twelve or thirteen? A. All of that. 2. i you ray you fret became acquainted with plainti® when you lived on Bent avenue? A. No, sir, Q. Did you —