The New York Herald Newspaper, July 18, 1859, Page 2

2 METTERNICH ON EUROPE. METTRRNICH AND MONTALEMHERT, | The subject of conversation chaoged, and the Prince | Spore to me of our Catholls affairs, He stopped when M je Montalembert’s name was montioned and observed that Wonversations with Prince Metternich—Hls had always admired hie talent and sinoerity, Wasa he made his first appearance ia padlic life 1 View of the French Character—Contempt for the Balance of Power—The Polish Revolution—He Hates Ikms—Coudemns Je- sephism—Austcia can Abserb no Hore—Ob- servations on Montesquieu, Sue, Balzac, Silvie Pellico, Kossuth, Guizot—The Inde- would push his opinions to extremes, and I fixed my eyes on him. The ba- sis of his ideas pleased mo, Amidst th» errors mingicd with them, and the impetuosity with which | he made them koowo, bis ideas were mine, In 1834 he | took a fancy to visit Gullicia, wad applied to me for mission to travel there. He was too young, and nis Po! sympathies were too strong for me to permit him to tr vel through that country, and probably compromise him- | welf, He wag much aonoyed by my refusal, and | saw at onoe that he « pendence of the Pope and Napoleon's | +! ran: Se SOD ATOR! und last Ba | Scheme—The Kingdom of Upper Ituly and | cri oranda bin, LACE @AibSt with patines tee tae come, rocentiy Venice—future of Germany and France— | b'e moment of reconciliation. [felt it had bs pati ee a moa of Ea | en eal igeoureo on the'afagn of | volutlonary Jews—The Sle! in of - | Rome. I wished to make tho first advances to fon j= | talembert, and the person to whom I applied was natu- rope—Thorns iu the Russian Crowa—Met= | Piya do Sainte Aulae, the Ambasatoe through whem Thad refused him permission to travel in Galliola. I wrote ternich and His System, to bim that his discourse was, in my opinion, as wise and Kee true as ft wad bold and cloquent; that i} expressed all my Ker Kee thoughts; that I was ready to. aul every word of it, and that, desiring to say go to the author, I begged Sainte Noarly ten years ago, for my o#M gratifcation alone, I | Aulaige to express this in my name. M. do Montalem bert accepted my overtures in the spirit in which they were | offered, and I was detighted with it. THE POLISH REVOLUTIONISTS. “You, also,” said the Priace, “nad a good doal of Poion- ‘committed the folowing rolation to writing. I now pub’ lish it without alteration, for it seems to mo that correc- fions would only ¢iminiah its tatrinsic interest. Tho reader is requesied to go back to the end of the year 1849, ism in the Univers, which has often led astray. Iam i one of the oldest readers of your jouraal; [ have followed and to remember that I merely relate what I heard, with- its with the int pert stake ie a ions, out entering into any discussion about it. I must pre- uilse, however—relying on my memory, which is very re- end your anti-Austrian polemics made me desire more than once for an opportunity to enlighten you; but the op- i rtunity never ited itsoif, However, for some tertive—that Prince Metteroich hag said all that I have | Porn a Lage tae yo Lave Sait ee related, and for the most part I uge his own expressions:— | furmed.’”’ “There is nothing like a revolution, Prince, for 0} one’s eyes to the character of revolutionists. Tne Po! revolutionists have made us reflect, as well ax others. Novertheless, we love Poland still, ‘and your Highness will permit me to add that we cannot stifis our resentment against Russia and Prussia, and even Austria, for her con- January, 1850, My excellent friend, M. Theodore de Bussiere, intend. ing ¢o pay his respects to Prince Metternich, an old friend of his family during his exile in Brussels, I resolved to ac- company him, knowing that I could never have go favera- duct to thst unhappy country.” bie an opportunity of seeiag that illustrious man. : (id -. ged orabie Lag ee rye Lebddgarn tr ‘one enemy, au is ignorance. You think, said M. de Bussiere, that he knows you are whe hie al Rage ps "No oy wad dlapel lg: the author of all those articles which have appeared in | norauce in’ upright minds whenever I mst them. the Univers against him, He must baveseen many others, | In this particular, therefore, I am at your Lreplied : L would baye no curiosity to seo him if I disposal, I look upon it as come fet ypnen hot pleasure to me, to answer euy gr question. Therefore, if now or hereafter you are puzzled ‘about any point of contemporary history, and that you think there is anything in it that you do not kaow and cannot thoroughiy understand, question me.’’ Twill prodt at once by your Highness’ kiudness, and request you t put me in possession of the truth a3 coa- nected with events in Gullicia. “ You refer to the rising of the peasants in 1846. That was the work of Polouism. It undertook to get up a re- bellion among the peasants of Gallicia, who appeared to it too favorably disposed towards the Austrian government. But two species of conspirators wore working a’ the sams time, for Poloniem conapired also against itself, and there were in itgranks many democrats aad socialists of the French type, who looked upon property holders ia the saoie light that citizens Louis Biauc and Proudvon do, [a thongnt he was a man to remember such things; be sidoe, I wish to excuse myself from anything exaggera‘ed Or erroneous I may have said. Theas are mistakes which slalesman would know how to pardon ovea to an enemy, Gand we are not enemies, only oppouents. VISIT TO METTERNICH We set out on the 18th or 14th of December, and on the @vening of our arrival M. de Bussiere waited ou the Prince, and broughs me the assurance that I woald bo ‘woll received. On tue morrow, then, we presented our” selves at the door of the elegant mansion in the suburbs in which be dwelt during his exile; he who tor nearly forty years was the First Minister in Austria, Tai house had al- | Dhice, “therefore, of taking up *arms against’ the reuty acquired oslebrity, Laving been built by the violin- | imperial | authority they “took up arms against i Af 2 prietors, a large number whom hat ist Beriot, the husband of Malibran, It was an agreeable nied oosaaty ‘cunlsed’ peasinis t00 mitoh Cons» ef Cpax- and commodious dwelling, and contained a smail thestre, which then served for a salled manger. We were re- eived by the Princess, the third wife of M. de Metternich, whom he had married in 1830. Sho belonged tothe great Bohomian family of Zeihy; she wx very beautiful, but proud and haughty. Hor pride, I was told, was very dis- plaint, The result was not what the conspirators wished, ‘hough they had prepared the way for it; it was a sudden and terrible contlagration—a true jacquerie. Much mis- chief was done before the government, taken wholly un- awares, could interpose the slightest obstaclo. It was ne to use stratagem when they wanted power, and Consequently they paid go much a head ig every gontle- brought alive into the prisons. was the onl; Pleasing to the Viennese, but I found her very kind and | menng we had of saving them, ‘The incorporation of friondiy. ,She epoke Fronch;with ease and fluency without | Cracow, too, has raised a great clamor. Diplomatically ‘Qn accent, but with that peculiar intonation which Ger- maas never jose. It was not without regret that we saw | their own interests but for the interest of humanity. g@ome visiiers enter, although they were famous people | bad received from the generous sentiments of the Em- In Brabant. What a contretemps, said M. de Busaicre to | Perr Alexander id eee ee toe cain oe, st ‘me; we will not be alone, and this lord and lady will cease | couid not have, any means of existence or continuance. talking of the rain only to begin again about the fine | They even went so far as to spoak of making ft a free weather. ro cbearcip ora eis foe a city er Peden) by PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF NETTERNICH. power a! Bat the chimera of a commercial exist- ‘Ths Prince came from his study and saluted those im. | 000% Was not more extravagant than that of « pelitical existence. In short, they have only made a sort of holy Portant personages. I coufeesI experienced some emo- { city for Polonism, useful in keeping up in the bosom of the tion in seeing before me aman I had so often heard ex. three Powers the cancer of conspiracy. The Austrian ecrated; whom Thad for a long time regarded as the government put an end to this horrible stato of things. There was no treaty to prevent it, for there was no treaty, pillar of despotism; one of the executioners of Poland | no ratifcatiog, but simply a promige, which could bo an: and Italy, jailor of Speilberg, the support of Josephism, Sh oath Pe oe Keep it was danger- &e., &c. He was an old man of seventy-five, above Poland is an unfortunate nation. I pity her, She has the middle Leight, very erect, and a mild and noble f soee atmiraole qualitiathat I resogaiss and honor. | She agpires to political existence again. I can well under wnat Pegg eg Mo Lanting ae | stent it. Thave often regretted, aud eo has the Emparor Gaiked for some time to tha Brabancons; then reen Franois, the division of Poland. It would be well for Aus- tria if she had no tin it; but she has not the power to tering bis study, he made asign to M. de Bustiere and I & follow him. spcaking, that was the most simple and straightforward afluir in the world. The three Powers acted not only f2 dispose of it; the thing is done, But with Poland—which I again repeat is a generous nation, and worthy of com. passion—we must not confound Polonism, which is a detes- tible apicit—a spirit of disorder, of impiety, of iniquity, and I have no hesitation in saying, an anti-Polish spirit; for it has damaged the cause and even the name of Polan Whroughout the entire world. You ask what is Polonism? It is the madness of pretended patriots, Wh9 Fezard ng- ‘iS STUDY. T observed with a corner of my eye the furniture of this ‘Spartment, aud what aeemed to me the most curious ob- ject init waa é cage in = acanary was singing. I Wes surprieed that Metternich would allow himself sach a | thiog but tho gratilication of their own pride, aud who Companion. He made us be seated, and then commenced | would make heroes of themselves at the Bxpotse of their Speeking ia @ clear voice, and excelleut style, relieved by country. I hope Poloniem is dead, killed by its own hand. @ slightly foreign accent. He is as calm in conversation | It has received in Sicily, from Mierolawskl, and in Turkey, as in manner; io (aot, his prominent characteriatic is sere- | too Darr, ig de grace. 8 for Bem’s apoatacy, it is niiy, mingled, however, wish kindly eat sickening.” SaGhdrS ihe wcaumy at Pol ee “ Your name is known to me,” said he, ‘‘and you are I give Prince Metteruich’s replies 8 UeABae which ha ‘not ignorant of mine. I have been for a long time on the | allowed me toask,aud not my own opinions. I was there Btage of the world; I have preceded the Revolution; Lam | question, and not to discuss. The Prince’s explanations on What ia called an old fogy; my speciea is almost extinct. | the affairs of Poland are the explanations of Austria; they Revolutions have doze more for me than I have for them, | do not justify the other Powers nor Austria herself. Austria Sand that without putting me under any obligations to them. | has not done what she ought to have done, as a Catholic They have raised me to positions to which I would never | nation, to guard against and to extinguish the antagonism have aspired, and placed them before me when I sought | between peasants and proprietors, or to make her Polish ic] them not. Ibave not wished to be what I have been; | subjects forget as much as possible the nationality thoy have let things take their course. Cast upon the | had loet. It is true, on the other side, that the revolu- ocean of events, I thought only of directing the helm of Ty own conscience.” METTERNION ON THE FRENCH CHARACTER. Without waiting for any reoly or any compliments, he entered immediately on the aifairs of Europe, and ezpo- cially of France, which I saw he knew intimately. “Tao French character,’’ said he, ‘ie singular and puzzling. Generally spesking, there is in the world two kiads of men, those of the past and those of the fature—in other words, the men of yeeterday and ihe men of to-morrow. The iattor only, among whom I class myself, are of any ac- count; for yesterday is past, and men ought to giva thair attention to the morrow, which is springing iato exiatoace. But Frenchmen aro the’ mon of to-day—that is to say, of the passing moment. We svep from the past to the future, from yesterday to tomorrow; and the present day, the Present moment, is only » bridge connecting these two Shores. Weil, Frenchmen gine up the past, they forget it, they despise it, and without thinking of or providing for the Tuture, they obstinately persist in remaining on the bridge. France hag before her at this moment just two yoars and 8 half, and ehe is seriously thinking of constitating her- Self into a republican Presidency, which means putting hersoif in @ giate of revolution every three or four years, This 1s what abe builds on. A fatare of three or ev ba yaar eppears ia her eyes long enough to do every- “We bave,” said I, amiling, ‘‘views which are soms- thing vaster. We have men’ among us, and bebind them & groat mass of people, who hope for a Presidency of ten years, and even some who dream of the stability of 2 tionary spirit renders reparation, and, consequently, re- conciliation, very difficult. On bolh sides faults against | God have given Tise to faulte against mon, which punish | men and avenge God. For many years Earope has been entangled in the complicated machinery of injustice from which she cannot oxtricate herself either by poms, or by armg, and in which millions of victim will be mangled | until the trua rights of man are secured by the recogni- tion of the authorny of God. METTERNICH’S DISLIKE TO 13M3, “Apropos of Polonigm,’’ said the .’*ince, ‘have you over reflected on tho signification of thd word ism? The study of a language is the best course of logic. The mind seeks long and anxiously for definitions and demonstra. tions, when the word explains itself at once. When the French language added jem to a substantive, it added to 1t an idea of contempt and degradation. Tnere aro, to be sure, exceptions, but let us see if the rule will not hold good. Beginning with the most elevated subject: Theos, God; then think what The-ism means. Royalty it do- grades into royalism, and liberty into liberaliam. And Polonism and ‘Italianier, and nationalism, and popular. ism, &,, &e—all these isms are detestable.” Prince Metternich carried his dislike to isma so far that he objected to religion being called Catholicism, and ho criticised the use of this word in a public letter of Dono Cortes. The reader will be pleased to have an oppor- tunity of reading his objection and Donoso Cortes’ reply:— I have such an antipathy to isms,and such a dread of the istitude it gives to any word to which it is affixed, ifn po or wee it even iT words that seem little Ah, abl, Napoleon.does ikely to submit to any great alteration—such ag kings Pi tg yma not wish to move at the end | soserchy, country. Id the coures of my long life T her’ “We think ao, and we think that he is right.”” looked with suepicion upen partisans of royalism and pa- “It Re withdrew at the expirati hoes trictigm, I object even to Catholicism. ‘The Catholic which he wea aiesiss+ Europe, and probably ease’ r | chureb is a power that can bo strictly defined, and thero- world be very mnch ascsaished. But how teens?) | fore fully comprehended, whilst Catholicism’ comprises there is the ‘difficult Nat condition gro 2") | persons and things more or lees Catholic tuan the church Bow? “You. do not kav, “ayy te faiey Ate, YOU | and its visible head. So with royalism; gms who profess thing depends on chanee "sport nc, ut’ i, every: | itare more or less royalists than kings or monarchies, grovad @ roasoumble concen, basis od Which to ! tem suits Protestantism exactly, but mot the Catholic fave not yet got OO ae us. Ah! wo] hurch. There is no quailty in their respective bases. the intermediate. power ‘e auppressedy, aa Tat 5, WH°2 | Toy* foundation of tne church is the principle of Powor roats directly upon whet nose THY resting upon faith; that of Protestantism is sim. makes an unpleasant juxtapodition fe ply pri,"Ste Judgment: {t bas neitber more nor less weight resuits. For this readoa homan Cae gor ect no good | fz Par, other question submitted to freo examination. Pen, or where Buropo is dritgg ry wnat will Lap- | pot aye, does not Gallicanism lead to sonism’ You akéd my opinion of Ree rye eng.. Tt annoys me to be | ADA tell me, “it ge vou please of my cbservations, It B OMuldron where wih ies eat sppests to mao but | 74 bene We, hat T exaggerate tho dangers likely to Bocthing coufusedly logeinees phe destruction are | result from the man Of tis Word, tell me go, that 1 may wal not regult from it, but I'am v very wou. What ¢ aramine your reason. * with frank paversabiy pices by entirely ignorant of wn.’ ‘ism, pessimism and ~ my re; and nihilism. METTRENION ON MONTHSyCIRE ee ee YT METTERNICH, | aan 222% $8 no man tn France whohas dose ce on™ | you.n60 Corton replied ble misobii lone auch incalcu- Te, rte replied :— Quicn, with, he eas, Without intending it, as Montes. | Whed it is ni as ft 7 20W, to speak for evary | chimera of an 'y one can wuderstand, ge that eve. | ingratitude, and I might have expocted something. NEW YORK HERALD, MONDAY, JULY 18, 1859, lant the divine law by the human ey love ground, for the national wea Austrian roasts powor- endeavoring to su; law, Nevertheless full Stan ie na crore ‘Josoph. Il. 8 6 Seospe Rar] ip iw decline, or rather i You mpst not imagine, bowever, ab (ts Inst gs that Josephism 7 vented Austria from being Catholic—thoroughly and ex- cluaively Catholic in it8 policy with regard to the Holy See, Austria has no territorial ambition, and in Italy loast of all I will be permitted to say in opposition to these pohtical journals that talk of ‘ambitious Austria,’ that Amirta is satw cam absorb no more, She i# great enough and rich enough; sho haz enough to do to preserve what she possesses. Tho Emperor Francis often said, He who to add to the Austrian posseagions—oven a village—I would dis- trust, for he os i) either ti or an enemy. in Freuce you ail talk of maintaining, strengthening and \..- creasing: your influence, You muat augment French ic- fluence in Italy, in the East, in Switzerland, every where. It is your constant unsaimous idea; and if Our gover - ments bad it pot you would im; it on thom. Ni there is nothing of that kind in Austria; we have no s: ‘fb ideas, We protect and govern what we And influemce we desire to efi 8 partial ovr the Holy Father is to place him in a to proserve his do- minions and bis trecdom, VRULLLOT'S IMPRESSIONS OF METTERNICH. Thave related all that Prince Metternich said to me in our first intorview. I confess that he fascinated me, and that ali my preconceived ideas of tho man gave way atonce. I saw @ man preoccupied with thescience of government, acting according to numanity and justice, studying ‘and eudeayoring to correct and transform, without desiroying, relying 00 time and reason for supcess rather than on force—a man who, during forty years of power, had boon guided by his cousvience, and who could yield up the wer be had so long exercised, aad pass from ths court to exile without permitting this strange turn of fortune to disturb his mind or trouble his heart. When { took my leave he said to me that he hoped be had al- ways been guided by a love of truth and by his con science. ‘Thanks be to God,’”’ added he, “I never had to wait long to know what Isbould do. I have risen with. out design or eXertion on my part, and without forgetting fora moment thet it was essential to know how to de cend. When the moment arrived my reflections have oot taken five minutes, [have said to those interesied in the event—‘This is what I think; this I can do—tnis my conscience forbids. Deliberate, and if you do no; con- sider me useful, do not encumber yourself with mo.’’” METTERNICH’S OPINION OF REVOLUTIONISTS, The next day 1 dined with the Prince, and the conver- gation tured on different persons aud things by turns. Several French pames were mentioned, particulariy those that were celebrated in literature—such as Sue, Balzac, and others, whom he aj to hold ip e‘ight estimation. Ido not remember in what connection the political advo- cate was mentioned. ‘1 have seen him,” said M. de Metternich, “ho seems a heap of dirt ; one might aay ‘that be was born of dirt, as Venus was of the foam of tac ea.” That led us to speak of the Jews, who have played no in#iguificant part in the actual revolutions of Germany , and who prepared the way for them by the writings of thetr formidable and ineoleat pamphicteers. I saw that the Prinze knew all theee Jewish writers (plumes de Samarie) perfectiy, even the most insignificant of them, whether ia France or elsewhere. Tous be knew that W—— wrote for the good cause ; but he said that the Jews who take office are as faithful as the Jews wuo tura Protestants, PRISONS AND PRISON DISCIPLINE, After dinner, the Countess Zichy, mother-in law of M. de Metternich, a very pious laay, begged mo to repeat to the Priace the deta‘ls of what I had been telling her of the eifvets of the Jesuit mission among the galley slaves at Toulon, The recital iaterested bim, aud be took occasion to teil me that, having stayed some time in that city, he bac studied carefully the discipline of the bagne with the assistance of an intelligent physician. “Among other observations of this physician,’ said he, “I remembor this one—that suicides rarely ocour,in bagnes, or prisons, and the reason he gave was, that saggondemnioa are sup ported by bope. Those who are for & specified time do not commit suicide, because they expect to re cover their liberty, and those whe are soutenoed for life do not, because they hope to be pardoned or to make their egcape. “From whence it follows,’ said I, “that liberty is the ‘boon that men desire most ardentiy, and that the hope of it alone renders the greatest evils eudurable.”” * Yes,” replied the Prince; ‘‘ but when free they com- mit suicide. Religion alone can teach them to endure nee and rar “Io Austria,’ - continued, after a short pause, ‘ there are no bagnes, thereare only prisons whose government has been mitigated porhaps more than it should bave been.’” “ Yet, Prince—the carcere duro.” “The carcere duro is the strictest government, but even this has been mitigated. Those who have been punished in liberal countries with solitary confinement find the carcere duro bearable. You recollect, I am sure, the ac- counts given by the political prisoners?”’ “Yes, Prince,’? He raised his hand, with the forefinger extended, shook his head, and replied, ‘Not one word oftrath in all that.”’ T looked at bim with astonishment and incredulity. He repeated the same gesture of denial, and repeated “Not one word of truth.’” “I certainly think,” eaid I, ‘“‘that there is much oxag. geration in Andryane’s account. I feel it. But Pellico?’”” “Ob!” said the Prince with a grave emile, ‘the bas in- deed abused the intellectual superiority with which God endowed him, as he did the pardon which the Emperor nted him, and he alone hag been able to make froma x of calumny @ book of prayer.’’ WHAT METTARNICH THOUGAT OF SILVIO PELLICIO, “Prince,” said I, “you astound me. Your Aighness must permit me to say that I cannot accuse Silvio Pellico having lied.”” ot st ebe wished to Lie,” observed the Prince, ‘God knows becter than Ido, perhaps better than Pellico him- self. But there are and treason in that beautiful ook, Lies, becans.® the facts are either invented or will- fully erMzerets Tren ~2, because ho Promiged, ‘when he received pardon, t0 .cerect *HO BOVErnuont of the Emperor, and to do ‘nothing » ‘18 prejudice. Silvio anc his accomplices had been coudemu=2 for conspiracy, en Italian conspiracy; you know now what {bat means. They intended to poniard the chief officers of shy S0vern- mett, beginning with the archduke, They confessou both the conspiracy and the project of aszassination, Thc” were condemned to death,ag they would have been by apy tribunal in the world. Under my long minis- try many have been sentenced to death for conspiracies of this kind, but not one has been executed. The sen- tence of these gentlemen was commuted, according to custom, to imprisonment for life (carcere duro !). But this terrible carcere duro wes far from being aggra- vated in their cage. There is uniform for aii ine pei. foners, but they were exemp* from wearing it; there is a chain, but this cbaia, which reaches from the waist to the ancie, isa that would not fatigue a child. The diet is not £0 palatable as the ordinary prison diet, nevertheless {t cap be eaten; but to bring down to the food of vulgar crim,2*!8 patriota so pure and stomachs ao delicate could not be t.Ught of. A reataurant was therefore establish. ed at Spielbe.%, and the prisoners were permitted to order what they please. for dinner—a permission which they erally availed theelves of. The dungeon was a fiznt, airy room, and the Solitude of the dungeon wag en- livened by a companion—not ,{@posed, but chosen. The prigou rules did not permit prisoners to re books or writing materials; but to poets and thiokers could we re- fuse such asolace? They always had bduXs, pens, ink ‘and paper. How! you have read——”’ ‘‘T was mysel! astonished at it,’ said he, *Ihad al- ready met with maay similar examples of impudence and But this surpassed all 1 had krown or could expect.?? I repeat that I mereiy report the words of M. de Met- ternich, without thinking it nec to comment on them. 1 do notdiscuss. I lay before the reader teati- mony the character and importance of which he can ap» Preciate, “T believed formerly,” said I, ‘that having spared the lives of the prisoners of Spielberg, the Austrian govern- ment bad formed the design of brutifying them.” ___ MRTTERBICH AND COUST CONFALONIERI, “You must at least accord to it the raerit of not know- ing how to accomplish it, for many of those prisoners have written, some with talent, and all have given proefs of a itvely imagination. The truth is, ouly one of them testified gratitude or behaved like a man of honor, and he was the chief of the conspiracy, Count Confalonieri. Bofore be was mixed up with these a(fairs I had known him woll. When he was transferred from Milan to Spielber, he passed through Vienna. I went to the Emperor an said to him—Confalonieri is here ; will your majesty permit me to converse with him? I would endeavor to draw from bim some information, which will, perhaps. serve in future to prevent the recurrence of ma‘ | conspiracies, and to preserve, at one and the game time, the public peace and the lives of roany unfortunate men, Delieve that the sentiments of Confalonieri are so noble ‘that I would not apply to him tn vain.’’ ‘Yes, certainly,” eaid the Emperor; ‘go and see him; I permit you; and May you obtain what you desire.”’ I went tothe police headousrters, and there | found Confalonieri, seated on a , English i owe mitet use Jat fofo, im an apartment like this in . al w.. alance of power, r say..< coe Ever y oue understauds by Cattolicum. What] unterstand— Wag just after supper, ‘Count, nee Ttobims “f sl what he believed he saw jt) | tae fs to say, the doctrines taught by ‘He church: by go. | 40 addres myself to your reason nad your heart. You 42nd. ind whet he holde up for our wo” Eg | ciptiam socia: aclence as taught by soci. lists, aud by Pal | bave formed an enterprise which camuot succeed; those Abtion, docs not in reality exist there, ~ "won and iml. | Toone TO losophy ag taught by the ad “ORCS Of free | who attempt it alter you will fail as you have done, and Fpecch to ay ths there is a king - 1 i a figure of | aieission. By the help of these words, Which have | mug: submit to the severe fate which is Defore you. I pane. They nave bad.wud**” and commons in Eng) SE oing fixed and universally underst. 24, I cna | come now to ask you if you think Wt rignt tbat toaagy Hut, above a ~ey haye now, cy ‘e ris | Gxpreas ideas briedy which otherwiss Ould re | others ehould fall whore you have falleu, or if phat gost wi ~ 4, they have bad, aud stil quire tedious and labored explanations. For’ ©kam- | we cought not to seek, rather, a an Mok slope” we find no equivalent in France, and | O/T" 7s aiscussion I use philosophy im PIQce | Italian, and Ins Minister of the empire, some moano (for Alves can counterbalance the action of a repressuta- | PP i sin 1 must epecify what system of phis0s0- | doubiless tere are somo) of avoiding the like follies aud eit overnment—I ellude to that admirable political saga. | 7) Dre toning against, for the Catholic church ha { the like catastrophos. Your fate is xed. Tao nct come FY , Aaatadmiradle love of tradition, that feeling ot dura | Foy | ttceoohy, which 1 never attack. Bat when Tsey | to annihilate bope, neither do I come to promise « pardon om, which has resisted up to the gg oe om 4 philono yhism, no explanations are necessary to show that | which im any case would be very slight and very distant. ebanges of a representative ais kaowe aa ie England ander this name Iam contending against the philosophy | You have nothing to hope, and nothing te fear. Ourcoa- on tradition, an wnerosching ‘The f the partisans of private judgment. Inthe same way, will come out of it. of Pas pris er is a pilose, | Son I speak of social soleice, as the Catholic church hag balance i ints oe enoroaching and phicas Utopig—alt asocial science peculiar to herself, it fe evident that in Wiirantey arbak We May ae ae era hizrarcay | esiag the word socialism, T epenk only of that false social ‘Urders, whose strength Is counterbalanced by © DicrhrOy | science taught by socialists, Tam is undoubtedly a sort of warefully maintained, but we can have oly Ole vr the | euphemism—a delicate way of expressing folly or degrada. A wo have two or moro, i is not Hey lit ig | ton—and that it baa been apjtied to the best and noblest Birife of power we must look out for. things proves the imperfection of human understandings. Thus deism and pailosophiam are always and radically | bad, although philosophy is s good thing, and God is per- fect. Lutheranism, Arianism, Keotiem, snd all tho isms ‘whose radicul isa proper name are generally detestable, ed, Tatally prolonged until one of theee authorities is subdued, wand it Requestly, happens that both are destroyed. Woo Yo tbe country which witnesses these torrible struggles. You know something of it?” “Yea,” Lreplied, ‘and the opposition to it is organized | Pit egiy and naturally. There is an unworthy royal: ‘among us,” jam and an unworthy patriotism, and humanitarianism ‘© You wish to be released from it,’ parsued the Prince; js es barbarous in sound as it is in mean- S¢it will not be easily done. Ithas succeeded in ‘This is undeniable, but it ie not less go, that the \Bwo formidable principles in your prejudices, at least, force of truth bas preserved catholicism from any doubt- ive right in the dust, aod representative government is foe Aa without, put which in any case cannot, in ronstantly exciting troubles, which scatter this dust around, Itisthe ruin of the social state, They under- | ™ opinion, be productive of injury. There cannot boa Patholfoism; in the bosom of this ight every error, Jatand these botier in England, There thi i Bland fsiable, because the family romaine, and Sue'fa, | ard every tendency to Sra, amoditalyresaive ihe gnily remains because the property ‘s not subdivided. tam whi ee cage iodine fe icned on the fret appear. fhe father of Sir Rovert Poel bud o considerable | to be on Kanisra, jansenism, gallicanisma, josepbism, ance of cortesianism, j Fortune. He bequeathed to his cidest eon Atty Jamonnalsianism, giobertism, &>., yersation wii! be like that of the living with the dead, for youre dead. You can do nothing for yeurself, but you way warn others that they may not die like you. Inthe Interest of humanity, then, tell me, do you know what the Kmporor should do to deatroy the plague of conspira- cy?” “ Beforo all things,” gaid Confslonieri, “I wish to Bay to you that 4 my fate, and that i have deserved it. Ido not compiain of my puniziment. The Emperor had the right to be more severe. J thank him for having been merciful.” After these preliminaries, we talked to- gether quietly, and [ will cay nobly, and like Cnristians, uptil one o’clock in the morning. He spoke to me ia al sincerity, aud gave me some advice which did infi- nitely more credit to bis patriotiam and his reason than the rash intrigues into which he rogret- ted that be bad been drawn, When I jefthim he re- newed tbe testimony of his resignation aud grateful re- spect for the Emperor. I told him that I was happy to know the condition of his mind and gon!: thatIleaw in it at once # strength to support tho rigors of a prison, sala ladder by which he might leave it, He nover chaagod; he wes worthy of pardon beforo and after rooe! ng it, and he alone, But the others, before publishing, left in my hands evidence against what they have wriitea, I neglected to publiah it, for Austria doos not like to dofend herself in this way. However, I have this evidence, and it will one day see the light.” a year, to the «cond thirt; rigorism, mohinism, Bo if thou, trace Fear, na Ohi daugury | Ke, Caubocim lobe has continued > bo, slaps, Cu yusand francs each. [t is thus shat | tholic. 7 ' Bre hatere founded fand the void tht time intuilbly | «Your Highness, reminds me of Josephism:—that is one ymakes in the governing classes provided vaga of our grievances.’ ‘i a BIOL WORE Oe eye ee aaa cioa! | ant somepiems” Be replied, fs pod ee ambags for | at Trevolation. iL lhave been 4 rather fear for pt wilt transform into lawe theas | Prima Minter Yeas espsolaiy” Minister for Poreign Af- to tic doctrines as it has gone with many revolu. | fairs, and my influence was not paramount outside of my com. ni. Cionsry ‘some time back order has been | own department. Therefore the public hold me respol tab hott hy moana ‘and with a concurrence that ren- | bie for many things wita which I had lite or nothing to on it almost more dangerous than disorder La ut | do, But thie {a an arnoyance to which all pabiie mea ae man spoole#, and bloot | wed. My Oppoaisiou to Joxephism brongbt me ii cutioners cannot dertroy the h: ae fows exis tae aa he _ 01 pa) antags- | flows over and corcoals the scat uhioworne and obstimat ip ok & ae bc lane incemazdayle dis We foD2 ppetinacy and prida la | * who arg at lone oqual wyo &.“ Prince, it's too late already. The prisonors’ writings have been read by a and the reeuit has been more disastrous for Austria than the loss of a battie.”’ “] do not pretend to think otherwise. But ev imperial government had consented to wage a papor w. against adversaries it had jobs it would have beena uselees humfliation, for the battic would have been lost just the same. I belteve that for some time to come govertments will lese every battle in which they ongage agnins! revolutions, and thateven victories will be no bat ter tom Against rerolations every government decrees of Justice bars and ifthe geaiance 16 ror liter, Hemnger, gozsciation to haya beoa j Rae for the time to have been a in af- 2 arene es eae of it, and say if it was to be done over again he woald act in the same manner,”’ MATTERMICH’S OPINIONS OF THR HUNGARIAN RAVOLUTION— HIS RBTIMATR OF KOSSUTH, HTC, Wo spoke afterwards of the Huogarians. “Do you know,’ said the Prince, ‘what has bappoued to Zeohenyit He bas lost bis senses, Ho was a liberai man—naturaily well disposed—a sort of Lafayette, and an economist. I had long comversation with bim one day, ‘My dear Count,’ said I to him, ‘you wish wo benefit your country, but you are doing it a greatdealof harm The material ad- vantages that you would progure for itiajures it moraliy,and the moral evil will remain, while the material advantages will be lost in the terrible convulsions of civil war. Hun- gary is not ripe, aud no country ever wili be ripa for the ideas you propagate. You will be outstriaped, seat adit, desert. The popularity you nave o wined by flattering pagsions you Ww! 0 a Ho did see tata to mae happened in spite way. About that time ‘Zechényi became insane, and it was neccasary $0 confine Dim. He bas some lucid intervals, in which be speaks of bis country and what has been cone there, at first in a melan- choly strain, with a feeling of gentic saduess, then he be- comes excited, says he was warned, that Prinve Mevwer- ich told hima How it would be, that it was his conacience that spoke—that he knew it well, and tha: he was lost be cavse be did uot listen tot. He trembled, he sbrickad, be foamed at the mouth, he endeavored to inflict bodily injury on himself and others, and at last it was found vecessary to put on a strait waistcoat. It was a mouraful irtumph’ for me, added M. de Motlernich, to be always justified by the men who op; m. I had a simiar conversation with Batthiany. Ho was uot wortby of pity. He bas done, aad he wished to do, iail- uitely more m than Zechenyi. Lent him word to come to resideace near Vienna, whore I spoke to him my cordially and seriously, but [ saw that I made no impres- sion on him. ‘Qount’Batthiany,’ said I, when he was taking leave, ‘you will persevere in your proseat evil oman I preditn——’ ‘What?’ ‘That you will be gerd?” Tsaked the Prince what he thought of Kossuth, and he answered in one word, which did not indicate a very high opinion of this demagogue, or rather which placed him on # level wtth Batthiany. I continued the couversacion: “Tt eeems to me,” said I, “that he possocses en- husiaem.’” ‘« He ws not even an enthusiast,”’ replied the Prince, “ avd among the military leaders ?’” “There is none of any account. Thore are somo sol- diers, but no mea,” HIS EXPLANATION OF THE WORDS, (SPRINCIPLR” AND “DOO- ‘TRINE, ‘These were the most important topics touched upou during tbis couversation, which interested me quite as much aa the first. Prince Metternich does act declaim, he converses, and converses to perfection, wandering at will from anecdote to anecdote, aud making li'tle digres- tions in the spirit of that upon isms. His memoirs Would be delightful to read if they preserved this piquant simplicity. 1 must uote here the distinction he drow be. tween principle and doctrine—two things of which people speak a great deal; which they refer to frequently; which they often confound, and which it is necessary to distinguish between carefully, becauge, in fact, they are often very much alike, “Principle and doctrine,” said ho, ‘are two pieces of ordnance of equal calibre aud charged with the sume kind of ball. But principle is a cannon turning on a pivot, itcan fire in every direction and strike everything that opposes it, Dostrine, ia a cannon placed in an eu- braguré, it can only fire in one direction, and that straight- forward. When I was in London, { conversed a good deal with sf. Guizot, who was always’ a little of a doctrinaire. On many subjects we thought alike, but on others we could not agree. How do you think I parried his argu- ment? I simply placed myself beside the embrasure aud aid, ‘Fire away my friend,I am under sbelter.’” And if reality I was under sbelter, and although he knew well bow to make the mest of feeble arguments, his strongest ones could not reach me. ‘Doos this distinc- tion satisfy you?” “Perfectly, Prince.’’ “Well, I give it to you.’” THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE POPE. At thecommencement of my third visit, the conversa- tion returned to the affairs of Italy and of the Church. The Prince again bore witness to the Catholic feeling of Austria. * Like all the nations of the world,” he said, “Austria ts interested in the jendeace of the sove- reign Pontiff, and she will commit a fault not to re- spect it. A superior degree of understanding is not neces- sary io comprehend that that independence which inte- resis us £0 strongly does uot interest other people less, This ie what 1 bave always endeavored to bring to the comprehension of those persons with whom I have bad occasion o{ treating that subject of firet importance to Europe. Ihave not founded the necessity of the liberty of the Poatiff and of the maintenance of the Pontifical State on spiritual reasona, which those feobie politicians would not admit, or which they would treat with mockery. I bave said to them: You cannot deny facts. You cannot deny that Europa cannot exist withozt Chris- tianity, and that consequentiy the chief of tho Christian religion is a very great and very powerful personage in Europo, whom no one bas troubled impunity. That it is necessary that this great and powerful personage should oocupy some place, you cannotdeny. It must then be either bis own place or that of somebody else. If he ocoupies the domains of somebody, he is in the power of comebody. But I, who have Catholic subjects — that is to aay, who depend ‘on the Pope—how could I, without exposing myself to very great inconveniences, tolerate that the Pope should have a master? If the Pope should be placed in @ dependent position, that person, whoever be might beon whom he depends, would be master in my dominions, and in many cases, easy to be foreseen, he would be more master than mysclf.’” “Tt is not as a Catholic,” he added; ‘‘it is as the Emperor of Austria that I wigh that the Pope should live in the Pope's own country, and not in the dominions of another.’” “Here ts a point which I advise you never to neglect in your polemics. You seize on the understanding of men in Ppregenting these evidences to them.’” “Indeed!” 1 exclaimed. “Ab! yes, indeed! When it is necessary to produce evi- dence, it 1s demonstrated in vain, inasmuch as those to whom it is offered do not wish to see; and many of those who wish to see it make haste loosely to forget it to com- Iain of ~ ee who resolutely denied it. Notwithstanding, is wet gad Will always be, consciences which will Le Y van be clear, ma ree Clear Cvarvience 16 Ang ylll aways be strong.” WAPOLEON’s ry FOR THE POPE, Thad a conversation with 1 *P0leon one day when tho Popo was at Savona, a prisone’ Of France. Napoleon ‘was not wanting in a certain affoction tv.” Me, and be knew that the Pope honored me with some cucfidence, He called me one day aud said to me—‘'Do me a dervicé, I am tired of the captivity of the Pope. It is a situation from which nothing good can arise, and it is necessary that it should not be prolonged. I wish you to go to Savonna, The Pope grants you bis friendship; you will speak to him on iny behalf, a8 a common friend; and you will in- duce him to accept 8 plan whieh I baye arranged to setéle ‘that unfortunate affair.” J observed that the authorilyof tae Emperor would be Heoéacry forme. ‘Do you refuse me that,” he replied. “It seems f0 me that you will be in n0 way compromised in employing your efforts for the peace of the world.” “It 1s that,”” I contiaued, smiling, “I doubt if that is reaily Peace which your Majesty proposes to the Pope. Will you make your pian known to met” ‘Hore it is,” said Napo- leon, in a very tranquil manner. ‘In future the Seo of mead would not be any more at Rome, put at arig,”” 1 could not restrain a movement of surprise snd a amile of incredulity. “Yes,” replied that formidable man, ‘I will bring the Pope to'Paris, and I will establish the See of the Church there. But I wish that the sovereign poutiff shouid be in- dependent. I will give bim a comfortable establishment jhe capital. I wiilgive him 9 chateau, and in order might be in bis own houte, I wiil make the terrl- tory for come leagues around his palace neutral ground, He will there have his college of cardinals, his corpe di- plomatique, his congregations, his court; and, 0 that he should want for nothing, 1 will guarantee him an annual rosea of aix millions, Do you think he will refuse at “I am sure he would, and ail Europe would support him in bis refusal. The Pope would fin¢, not without reason, that he would be ag much a prigoner with your six mil- lions as he is at Savonna. Napoleon deciaimed very loudly—abounded in argument, and alleged a thousand stunning reasons, At lest I said to him: “Your Majesty has drawn @ secret from me. The Emperor of Austria has had the same idea as yourscif. He sees that you do not wish to send back the Pope to Rome; he dove not wish the Pope to remain in prigon; and he also thinks, notwith- sianding, of making provision for him. Your Majesty knows the royal chaveau of Schenbruun. The Eq ror will give it to the Pope, witha territory of ten or wen leagues, entirely neutral, and he will add an allow- ance of twelve millions of revenue. If the Pope accepts that arrargement, would you consent?” He perfectly understood the pag mg ite he was the stronger, and he wished to haye the opinion of Pins Vil. on his plan. The sovereign pontiff replied, ag I had fo easily foreeeen, That Savonna appeared to him as goo prigon as Paris: that he wag there, moreover, in the cenire of the church; that his conscience was his free ter- ritory; that six millions a year were not noceasary for hia wants, and that twenty gous a day, which he would thankfully recerve in voluntary alms from tans, were sufficient for him. ‘THE KINGDOM OF UPTER ITALY, Tao conversation immodiately reverted to the afaira of Italy. The Prince spoke with great contempt of Italian unitarianism. ‘Of ali tne chimeres of the time,” he said, “perhaps that is the most stupid. That which at the most might be conceived was a kingdom of upper Italy, formed of Lombardy and Piedmont; but union is op- posed to the character of the two peoples. At tue bottom Of all these patriotic pretences which were purposely held ep, the iljusion could be clearly seen. Political towus hate each other—commeroial towns wish to destroy each other. Milan wishee to absorb Turin, Gonoa wishes to devour Venice.” TAB POSITION OF VESOR. If Venice leaves the Austrien dominion, she will fall into immediate and absolute ruin, Genoa and Ancona are not ignorant of that. I would like very much, on my own account, that Venice should not be necessary to Austria a3 9 military ition, aud that it could be aban- doued. That would @ great relief to the treasury. ‘The imposts of Vonice morely suffice to pry for cleaning the cauels each yoar. To keep up the city, to preserve the palaces from falling to ruin, and to 1 up the lagoons, tke Emperor has to expend many miliiooa every year. ‘The breakwater which is on the point of being completod tw prevent the harbor from being choked with sand hag Cort thirty millions, It is not Venice herself that could perform buch great works; neither will it be ths kingdom of Upper aly. Tho rival cities would put a atop to it, That great wreck cannot remain standing but under the protection of @ great empira, THE SWI38 BONDERBUND, “Your Highnees,”’ sald I to the Prince, ‘will permit mo frankly to address you all the questions which I desiro. I would like you te teil me how it is that Austria has aban- doned the eo Voluntarily. won I saw the people wore agitate in ihe Protestant cantons ts oblala, ® eroned constitaton with tha vow of crushing the Oatho lick, Leuid from the firat a vrord which is familiar to you in France--T en Thoso were in fact the aymptome of sp cy) waorch I bad had the time and oncasion Thnd ronght io check the pregea of the enna pies od although it may ¢ Prudent mysiures, J said to whe people of Lucgrae, (Ho pretext support ta ur? folly of opinion.” Teaid the game thing to the Nuncio, tx’ 5: ceagleryy ie approved of my view; to Pope, who .*pproved; to the J ‘also approves of it, ‘It was pees the a 2suits. Ae Obristian, | vonerate them; a6 & star y A xto I them one of the grandest social institutions whic haa ever been realized in the world. But their namo ig,“4 arm which I find it prudeat pot to leave to the pase. U8 oO vagabonds and the prejudices of fools, Tho government of Lucerne took no heed of my cat: sels. ‘uctors were required for their youth and thek” clergy; it believed that there was & necessity to estabiish ita right. It therefore demanded the Jesuits, and with such persistence that the Gouerai of tha Company of Jesus founo himself obliged congcient: to givo way, what- ever might occur, and he foresaw what would be the re- ault. The Jesuits ontered into iucernc, 1 exhorted the capton to maintain what they bad done ia the perhaps ic- opportune but logitimate exercise of thoir undoubted no. vereigaty. NEGOTIATIONS WITH FRANCE i Fra ae eee rind, amen with France for the @ Sondorbua ta hold up we head agalust the radicals, [found the French [ide eno I am bound to aay, vi enlightened, vory loyal, very resolute—in short, in the best disposition pos- sible. It recoguizod the rights of Oaiholics; it to protect and maintain the agreement. But these preli- minarics stopped, aud when it it was necessary to act, I was juat in the middlo of tho aifair, Teaid to M Guizot; **Let us proceed in common; let us intimate to the radical cantous that they must leave the Sonderbund in peace. An ouargetic dcolaration will ba sufficient, I hope, if they aee that wo are no! “isposed to recede. Ali the Powers are tn accord with ua except one op)y—England : we can pars by bor.’”’ He was of my opinion. But we soon had the certainty that our deciaranons would not intimidate, and that more energetic meusures would be necessary. I pro! to M. Guizot to enter into Switzerland immodiately, im equal force on the same day—-60,000 men va mde. M, Guizoy found himset before Kho Chambers, he heard the speeches of the opposition—the faror of the press— ‘the tumuits of discussion. He hesitated. ‘Go on first,” be said to me; “1 give you my word of honor I will como efter, The pretext of your iptorvontion is necessary to authorize mine.” I tm my turn where that would carry us, ‘ No;’? saidIiobim. ‘Ido not douvt your word; moreover, I do not doubt your intentions; but I very strongly doul your constitutional porstbilities. You will engage im tt, I am coaviaced; bus no person, noteven yourself, could tell me under what titls you could enier if I’ took the ice’, Will you come to uid me to sub- due the radicals, or will you come to aid the radicals to crush the Sonderbund? I cannot face t! complications; I cannot expose myself at tue same mo- ment to pave the radicais and France upon ny hande, See well that { bind myself to you for a plain action, common and decisive, befere all the world. Wo willeuter at the Same mowent, abd proclaim the same view.” He did not wish to understand me at ail; aad I saw that we could do nothing. Ip saort, we did nothing, and that was the signal for the fall of the governments. The inevitable catastrophe bad arrived; for a loag time before political science could do nothing more than to deluy the aour. On thet cocasion M. Guizot failed tu Tegolution before public epirit in Francs; perhaps ulao be fore the eveminadle policy of Eugiand, which desired everything that has ocourred. ‘Aud yot,’’ said I, “what will become of Germany? what will become of Francs? what will come out of all this?” THE FOTURE OF GERMANY AND FRANCE. I do not Like, he suitingly replied, questions which com. Pel me too much to snow the bottom of my bag. I do not Bee clearly into the future. The present state of atsirs disconcerts all previsious. What will be the result of all that? There will be nothing good. Tha: is what! bave tosay. Do you pay attention to all the changes ‘vf tho reat. Austria has not finishod, neithor has Germany. There are two monsters which mevace Germany, und one, if nod the other, must devour it. 1 believe that we might say both of them. Tne one is Teutonism, the other is Prus- me and the other strongly imbued with Ja- with Protestantism. nat creates ‘isms’? enough for an unfortunate country. i In regard to France, it seoms that she has a groat many chances to withdraw herself; she knows, however, it must be by revolutions. In these her education is completo, Sino is witbin herself, like a grisette ine studeat’s ball; she knows the customs better than a woman who finds herself there for the firsttime. ‘TItk MENKRW REVOLUTIONARY RLEMENT IN GRRMANY, There are revolutionary elements in Germnuy which hbaye not yet come into service and which are very formidabie. The Jewish element, for example. It is, 1 dolieve, inoffensive in your country. Itigurknown. The Jew, except in certain corners of the provinces where they carry on commerce, have no perticular 7éle im France, Those who bave appeared arc incidents, and are uot properly facts and sgns, The Jewiah venom is uct felt in the unbelieving mass. - In Germany it altogether differeat. The Jews occupy almost tho firet réle,and are revolutionists of the first brood. Tey have writers, philosophers, poeta, orators, publicists, bankers, and inthe bead aad heart all the weight of their ancient ignominy. They will have a re- doubtabie day for Germany, followed perhaps by s dread- fal day for themselves. (THX SICK MAN OF EUROPE.’? Will your Highness now permit me to draw your atten. tion to something elze. You know how wo are prooccu- pied with whas we call the Oriental question. What will be the feelings of Austria towards Russia in the fu- ture events of Constantinople? Austria is engaged by motives the most pressing, the most essential and the most desirable, to maintain the in- dependence and to prolong the exisieuve of, the Oitoman Empire. At Constantinople she is the born adversary of Russia. Between Russia and her there will not be any Agreement on that question. There is one now—it is recognized necessity—the setiled understanding of doing nothing, and of pdiournlag. every complication, Russia, which sou believe is Meh paced to take Constanti- nope, is not pressed , and for two reasons, ‘the firat is that, in gereral. "ue heir ab iniestat has not that eager ness of laying “ands on his inberitance which is generally seen in he’s by testament. It is not genorally the natu. ral and ‘nfaliible heirs who poison their progenitors; it is those who do not inherit bat by virtue of a gift, suscepti bie of being alterea, The second reason for — — 2b > erragsmeat whic! baci Peete on ' tho immense gue... Ps that advancement would cast upon bér. Her sitauw Enrope wouid be multipled im a most aggravated manuel, and,at the eame time, she wovld hav¢ three capitals. Two are already more tran enough. THORNS IN THE CROWN OF RUSSIA. 5 ‘The empire at Ooustantinopie will be the certain ruin 1 St. Petersburg and of Mozcow. Consequently with s great deal of affairs on her handsin Europe, there will be a great deal of ciscontent also in the empire. Before removing ead coming to take up a residence on the Bosphorus the Emperor would hayo a great many qucetions to settle at home; may points io regulate; of which there are none Of littiormyortance. He knows that perfectly; and there are thorne ao, terrible thoras in his beautiful and pro- digious crown.” He waits then, with much free will; but you Frenchmen wish that he would make haste. In al- ways repeating that he wishes to go to Constantinople, that he ie preparing to do go soon, that he kas but one step to mske, and that he ia not bold eaough to make it, you exc'te Lig vanity, you raise his pride, you encourage hin despite of himgelf to attempt that witch alarms you, and, ov my faith, ho must not be astonished if ihat groat enterprize which he wishea to clothe with so much care, go much prudence, co much heaviness, should bo one day revolved by a rash action, come what will. METTERNICH AT HOMB, The following Saturday I dined aaccond time at tho house of Bf. de Metternich. I was ai the site of the Princese, a very noble lady, who had not lost all her cele. braxd beauty, Groat, proud in stature, in Iangengo, in attitude and sentimert—perhaps a little excous inher majeety. Hut oe is touched with the tenderness which she exbibite to ber Gusband—a great deal older than she is—and with the respectful affection which she renders bim. B did not crush me with the weight of he relt obliged to her to be classed among th ‘od, as La Bruyere says, who are complaisant and simple for the children of the earth. 1 spoke to her of the reepect with which the Prince in- apired ine, and of the recognizauce which heal ways accord. ed me, af well as of the kindness which he always mani- feated towards me. he enid tome. “I cannot help,” I continued, “expressing to your Highness how much { re: gret being condemned to see that gPand and nobie charac. ter attacked and misunderstood as he hes been,” At this expression tears started to her eves. ‘“‘Aggressions aud political batred aro nothing,” ehe said. ‘That which te hard to suffer are the studied outrages of ingratitude, It ig the ineolence of rebellious varlets who have become more wicked than they ought to be after bs been more servile than was required of them. They bave known the opinions of the Prinos, they have a thousand times exporienced his ten- dornose of hoart, they baye had the most convincing proofa of bis joyal wisdom, end at the same time they celumpiate bis understanding and his heart.’’ “Madama,” eaid L, ‘it Je nocessary to foliow the oxample which he gives you, and forget the rebellion of those un- fortunate creatures, even their very exiatence,”? “T cannot do go,” ahe replied, weeping bitterly; “shat is too much cowardice and porfidy. History will not avenge us, aod it will not know that admirable heart which they have defamed. They have dared to speak of patriotism and of humanity. It i# tho Prince that has loved and served his couviry, and who has auffored in not being able to procure from the world the good it promizod these odious liars ’’ Tuk HOLOM OF 4 PRIMB MUNISTER OPENED, ‘At the time of those affairs of ihe Swiss, where all the ruih has commenced, the Prince, 0 28 to be more free, had retired to @ little villa which we had near Vioana. There be labored day and night, withous #0 much as taking alr in the garden. ae. evon- ing he raid to me—Let us go to the coun. try; my head is on fire—I cannot bear it any longer; it is necessary that I must take the air. hope of u doatrable solution ‘waa then annibilated. France refused her concurrence. M. Guizot, before acting in unison with tho Emperor, asked his permission to give hima box onthe ear, We went out and walked some time im silence. Ali of a sudden Clement, awaking from bis revery, said to me:—'Now I comprehend cage keg of Abraham when he beseeched God to take him with his fathers into the bosom of eternal reat. I would wish to die, and not to see the evils whick nothing can again pre- vent. My rdle is finished; tho part of a'l human wisiom is achieved; force is going to reign hore below, and the World is lort, Because Fight without strength will not be anything but a laughable object.’ He wept, without ‘thinking of hiding his tours from me. Never had he given way 80 much to his own misfortunes. Ho did not weep becaure his sogacity was humiliated, but because justice was defeated.’ It was thus that the Princess de Metternich praised her husband, and I have found that that commendation was truly that of those who love. After dimer the Princo showed us a beautiful medal, ba on the reverse two figures—Policy and Justioo— with device, in ray he has raft # ag ma “ his thoughts on the art of governing—. im ‘power in many). ‘The medal was offered to him by the Austrian on ‘on the celebration of the twonty-fifth anniversary of his administration. An that waa my last visit, he renewod the obliging suranee of thé pleasure which he had in seeing me. He recommended me to persevere in the idea of which the Univers bad undertaken the defence, “ The trath,” ho aaj! (ie with you, and inuat remain, hit tot it romaine With a tocreaping Mudurmtiwd, Supe god ideas, in Order sp and spur, which [have Wise and the most righteous wish to befres. Loave then, with the doce always open; and remember you shall write, nevor to regret a word blotted out.” The conversation now became goneral. We spoke again of Josephism, and of the obstinacy of Ausirian jarits. He Cold me shat bo hud siruggied tor tweive years to bring back of minors with: THE METTERNICH SYHTRM. a . also on ihe long alapertaions 9, Betternich syatem. tod, widen [ know it Ad Preval, Dut always havi Cumptarces and time. I myreif in contact with system.’ At the botiom it eyatom. In concluding now, after of the wows of M. Uttle Of the journals om right,’ he I try to maintain 1 or to make Fespect to men, and to the oir- Ave & priuciple never to bring bilities. pothing That is all of the ii a : ik i and that, g008 en of principic, making in one ut an instant. ‘Must not be stubborn, cali perseveranoe stubborness; it must not bd violci it must not cail firmnoas violence; it itaelf to the times, to circumstances, to no} permit the times, nor circumstances, overpower trath aad ens But the power owes to the ple truth aad justi and peace, of , besides, they bases. The constant occupation of not possibilities, and the preservation, tho Peace, docs not always prevent great fauita; it certainly ents great works, and great actons. What is am impossibility? And how many acts of injustice have boem biddon under that aame? M. tho Prince de Metternich has been the chief of a school cf politics which have definitely, under the eon- Vobient name of fails acoomph, scopted wil errors. They bave conducted the European world without many jol@ even to its ruin; they have not even aad the courage w Attempt to come out of the ditch ths mournful conse quences of which they should have forescen. Hos M. do Metternich been more cuipable than the others? Must he bave gone with tho times in which he lived? Did ne did not gee what he ovght to co, or was not possibie to do that which be bas not done? Phat is the difficult question which historiang will ask, For my part T have seen bim caim, peaccable, merciful, honest, imtelit gent and Christian like, All that he told me appeared te me to be wise and reflecting. Nothing, bosider, of a com- mon character transpired. After the dazz! ing effeos of the first surpriee nothing was left me but the luctd en@ cold impreszion of an excellent book on morality written by @ Protestaut. It lacks the boat, the sparkling views-— the I know not what—which penctrates to the depth of things, which apimates, which inflames, which confirma, and which will not be forgotten. This is what I expe rienced the other day in hearing Donozo Cortes, who is avt even @ staterman. News from Northern Mexico. OUR MONTEREY CORRESPONDENCE. Monrenuy June 16, 1868. The Defeat of Ca. Miramon—Separation of the Forces of Zuazua ard Hinojosa—Reported Battls between Hinajove and Marquez, and Defeat of both Partics— Mexican Oficers Visiting the United States to Purchase Arms, éc. Tho nows from the sont of war causes some sensation among thogs who are mostly interesied ia the success of one or the other of the parties. A short time ago we had news of a baitie in which Col. Miramon was defeated by Hinajosa, whom Zuazua bad sent to meet some reinforcements that wore coming from Morelia. They were not stroug enough to come without being Mabie to be fallen upon by the encmy, therefore Zaazua Bent the division of Hinsjess to strengthen them, 80 that there would be no danger by the way; this divi- sion while on the rosd towards Morelia bad an engage- ment with the division of Col. Miramon; the latter was defeated end bis soldiers dtepersed. After this battie the rexctionists camo with a strouger force, commanded by General Marquez, He occupied the country bstween Zaazua avd Hinajosa, and conse- quently the correspondence with the laver was cut off, and now some two or three weeks have pissed without anything deGnite being known. There have, however, some several persons arrived at the camp of General Zaazua, some of whom belonged to the division of Hina- josa; they report that the division which Hinajosa com- mands hac battle with the reactionists under the com- mauc of Marquez; they say that it was a severe battle, and that the liberals were defeated, thoy themeelvog being a partof the cispersed. Others came from Marquez, and report the same buitle, but said that the roactionists were defeated and cispersed. Thus we have news from the dispersed of both parties, afl reporting that thoy them. Belves Were dofeated; aud in the absence of official news, heso reports c.uee much uneasiness. I suppose that here js no doubt but thata battio was fought, and that he two parties rap away, not jeaying any one to report he victory, consequently the two parties report them- telves defeated, Notwithstanding that some of those dispersed were of ‘have no system; ailure man’s reason, . It is reason alone which ‘that is, to A li igi E F z the reactionary party, yet they come to San Luis Potosi, which ie cccupied by the literals. They do not fear the liberals, because it is well known that they were forced into the service of the reactionists, and servinz only under obligation, they do not expect to be punis!.gd for whit thes could ae sya ausanas * During the time oa, , the reat of Zuazua’s forces, “ag resctontaia eeeea sre nenror to General Zunzue es cl not being willing fo risk & battle with only & portion of Re forges, hag retreated $0 San Tals Potost to avon. ‘© ean collect hig forces. There has been a diflioulty between Zuazus 24 Garcia, who commands the forces fon Tamaulipas, ot am hot informed ag to the particulars of their difficulty, bus it poe Garcia's returning with his men (800) to Ta- maan,.,095: Nat's, '°& Informed concerning the diffloulty, but having observed y.°° Movementa of Garcia for several months, T can give sn that T thiuk will bo very nearly trus when the factg Sre known. During several months sho services of Gar.'a’é division haye been very muoke needed, but be could nos be induced to leaye Tamaulipas until the enemy bad retired from San Luis Potosi. He remained with Zuazu while there was no danger battle, but when the eneiny returmed towards Zuazua’s camp, Garcia became dissatisfied, asd when the enemy drew bear, ao that a battle was expected soon, he made a difficulty aud lef. He never saw aa enensy, and perh never will, ‘Tho veactlonists also bave aifliculties among themselves. Zuioaga ia auepcioned of trying ior the Pre. sidengy sgain; Marquez also wants it, Miramon will not give Way to any of them, and Gen. Woll is said to have declared in tavor of Sansa Anna, Senor Galindo and Capt. E Routsoau leave today for the United Statoa to buy arms and atumunition for the army of the North. Videurri wishes te mako it several thousand etronger than it aow is. Lose of the Whaie Bark Phenix, of Nan. tucket=Sufferings of her €xew. The Navtucket Jnquirsr of the 15th inst. publishes an interesting account of the loss of this vessel on the desert sborcs of Siberia. The letter is from Captain Handy to the owner, Mr. E. W. Gardner, of Nantucket. 7 eosKer (Sber'a), January 18, 1859, It ig with eorrow that I inform you of my sad condition, nd of the fate of the bark Phoonix. I was cast away on ibe 12th of October last, on Eibo Island, having dri god. on shore !u a gale of wind, the circumstances of which event J shal! not relate here further than to say that on the 11th T made a barbor in an casterly siorm, to the west of the island, and came to anchor st the usual’ anchorage. The wind ing to the west iu a heavy squall, was not able to take the anchors or slip the cables so ag to clear the land; tried to ride ont the gale, supposing the first of it to be the hardest, as te usual, but in this case it proved net so, She shorily aftcr went ashore, where she soon went Pe allowing usto gave but little besides our lives. We eaved gome flour and bread that came on shore in o damaged state, five boats and a few small articles of clothing, &c.; the oil was either stove on the rocks or went adrift. T toon found that we had got tostay in these parts all ehip anywhere; 80 we ft we had winter, aa we could not discover a ded to build a house to put what little in conclu saved, and then to come wp the bay and see if wo could make alive of it among the inhabitants, 80 as to avoid scurvy ff it was a porsible thing, as we had mo preventa- tive; but after we had got the house built and ready to move into, the weather came on and held so bad that wo could not travel in the boats at all, for {co noon began to make; so we contented ourssives with the intertion of coming on the {ce soon. But it did not 80 until the men had begun to be taken down with scurvy, and it had got go cold that it appeared the next thing to death for men clothed as we were to attempt to go anywhere to be obliged to camp out nights in the oper air, However, something had to be done, as it a) |, or we should all die before spring, although I calculate wo had flour enough to last us until we might bo able to in the boats and catch seals for meat to cat. If alive till such time I concluded I would make @ trial at rate. T volunteered a gang and started the first chance to cross the ice, which was on the 17th of December, for thig place, or at least for a settlement I had understood there ‘was somewhere in this ay sisted of eleven men besides myself, boat stecrers and hands, Tn elght days wo arrived at the mouth of this river, where there were a few fish houses and some fish, but no inhabitants, We were then out of bread, having consumed all we oou!d bring on our backs while making the journey, and as the most of the company were but just aliyo, and all being more or lesa frozen and not able to go any farther, I was pleased to see ahuman being in the place. He was a Tongoo, ona dog sled, who come down for fish. By hi Thave been able to find this place, and although along, no olhore being able to come with mo, Ihave been abie to have tha men brought by degrees and furnished with food and for as well as the place will allow, which is poorly to be sure; but itis of that kind that I hope will allow us to live until we can got on board some ship. We can get some vegetables and freah meat, but the allowance is #mali to carry us through the winter, Two or throe of the meri will lose thoir fect, I expect, but otherwise Iam. in hopes all will recover tho use of their frozen limbs. I eacaped the lightest of any, having frozen nothing but fingers, toes and ears, and these not badly, |Furthormore, Thave been able to a fow vogetables by the Tongooe to those at tho isiand, and have some flour, bread and clothes to help support us; am pleased to bear from them that they are all quite woll, having discovered a kind of winter greon or herb that they have found to be a power- ful remedy for revrvy, and that the sick men had got about well, The captain of the police received me very kindly; ho isthe highest goverament officer that resides hero, and bag done, and T trost will do, alt ho can for ug trom regara to uo Americas government company con-