The Bismarck Tribune Newspaper, November 8, 1928, Page 18

WN Vow ge Lloyd Thomas ERSTWHILE JIM ATHLETE GOING ‘HOT’ ON COAST is Fourth Brother of Famous Football Family Formerly Nodak Residents FOLLOWS BROTHER JOHN Thomas Has Poor Chance for All-American Because He Has Little Opportunity By DAN THOMAS Los Angeles, Calif., Nov. 8.—The Pacific coast elevens, usually good for one or two All-America football stars each season, have but two slim chances for 1928.+ The two prospects are Lloyd Thomas of the University of South- ern California and “Biff” Hoffman, fullback and captain of Stanford. Thomas is the youngest of four brothers, all of whom have attained gridiron fame. wes we fwh Rogers H of Southern California Doped for All-American ornsby Will Go to Chicago Cubs, It Is Announced Today BISMARCK TRIBUNE The oldest brother, John, was the star on Coach Stage’s Chicago squad in 1921 and 1922, being named in 1922 on Walter Camp’s All-America eleven. Harry Also Maroon Harry, the second brother, was one of the mainstays of the Chicago team in 1922 and 1923. Max, the third brother, played on the Southern California eleven of 1926 and 1927. Now comes Lloyd, a halfback, playing his last year of collegiate football and making a bid for All- America honors. He is without doubt the best around performer now on the Pacific coast. However, due to the Howard Jones style of play, he may be overlooked by the various pickers. Almost in- variably these men pick backfield players with the best ball-packing ability. Thomas packs the ball occasionally for substantial gains, but tle Jones system is for the quarterback to do about all the ball carrying and Thomas is not the quarterback. He makes the gains possible, and often has been called a maker of reputa- tions for others. i Thomas has proved invaluable as a defensive player. His ability in knocking down passes is almost un- _sanny. And when he tackles, they tay tackled. Thomas is in the “center of every play. “Biff” Hoffman was given the fullback position on several All- America elevens last season and he has a fair chance of being named on the 1928 elevens. He is the prin- il source of strength on “Pop’ ‘arner’s squad. Hoffman Is Triple-Threat | Hoffman is one of the few triple- shreat men on the coast this year, reing equally adept at bucking the ine, passing and kicking. His thances of being placed on the All- America squad will be enhanced by he fact that eastern sports critics vill see him do his stuff against the Army on Dec. 1. That is an advan- age not to be overlooked, because ioffman probably will be at top ‘orm for that game. There are other football stars on he coast who deserve some attention rom the All-America pickers. Jess Hibbs, the giant Southern Jalifornia tackle who was named Ml-America last fall, doesn't seem o have much chance of repeating bis year. He seems far from the layer he was all last year. thuck Carroll, Washington half- might stand a chance of cop- ing high honors were he with some ther team. However, the Huskies ‘ave made a poor showing this year nd that just about counts him out. You hear it said that Phillips, Cal- ‘ornia end, also deserves attention. o does Don Williams, Southern Cal- ‘ornia quarterback. LLINOIS TAKES MULLEN PERMIT Chicago, Nov. 8.—(#)— James fullen, Chicago’s leading boxing tomoter, has been deprived of the tivilege of promoting boxing shows gy the Illinois state athletic com- ission. The commission yesterday sus- snded Mullen indefinitely and re- oked his license for failure to pay ie state tax within the uired 48 ours after his Shade-De Vos show i the coliseum November 2. IMMIES SET FOR 2 GAMES N. D,, Nov: 8.—En- a the Wahpeton Wildcate, the gamie pigskin tossers hope to wind | carri Season with two victories and pare Friday and ly, on the home and the Jim- on a par with, week's big victory tt THOMAS’ ALL-AMERICA CHANCES ARE REDUCED BY THE FACT THAT THE eer ane SYSTEN TO SHow As 7 aheiaad LLOYD HWOMAS - o—o FOURTH BROTHER OF A “FAMOUS FOOTBAL?. FAMILY. . RABBIT FROSH EXCITED OVER VICTORY HOPE Will Meet Freshmen from Uni- versity of South Dakota Monday Brookings, S. D., Nov. 8.—En- thusiasm resembling that preceding the Hobo Day game is bursting on the State College campus this week among the freshmen. And the rea- son is the annual clash between the yearling football squads represent- ing the Jackral and the Coyotes, the game to be played Monday, Nov. 12, at Vermilion. Coach Bert Eckberg has been driving his yearling squad at top sleed this week in an effort to get them in shape for the big game. The frosh have been forced to take a lot of battering in order to get the var- sity in shape. They have alap been required to learn the plays of all the varsity opponents. jut this week, Eckberg devoted most of the time to developing an offense of his own to throw against the .young Coyotes. The squad should be in tiptop shape by Monday, according to Eck- berg. Rishoi, star Ifback of Brookings who was injured in the Madison normal game, is back on the job and is expected to do the} “Roman Schaefer” stuff for the itt': Eddie Colletti. a 135- demon from the Iron ange distri back in the hi off due to injuri ies. Assisting these two boys at the halfbacks will be Painter of Colome, Paul Homan of Scotland, Sterling of Parkston, and Trumbo of Wagner. Eckberg is well satisfied with his! three fullbacks, Kramer of Brook-| ings, Nelson of Garretson and Sim- onson of Quinn. They are all hard hitters and good sive backs. The line material is the best th: & freshman team at State can boast of for several years. Erickson of Montevideo, Minn., seems to have a cinch on the pivot job. He isa splendid passer and a smart player on defens Four guards, Krell of White Lake, Magnuson of Redfield, Simpkins of Brookings, and Swanson arker, are fighting it out this of week to see who will start in the big = aE "Did you know that— | Howard in football on October 27, it was the first victory for that long. id vou kwow tat—1(A, A, U, HEADS syringower for So seur’-” | TQ) HONOR VETS The judge said he was reckh ---. Lefty Grove is running bowling alley near Baltimore. . And Ray Schalk presides over one in Chi..... Wilcey Moore says he’s the “hardiest luck” guy in baseball....... Gordon Rhodes, expected to be a wow for the Yankees, went back to school at Utah, after he fin- ished throwing ’em in the Coast League. . . Washington wanted to toss a banquet for Walter Johnson. ... But he told them to wait until they had something to banquet for. Ernie Quig- ley isn’t refer any football games this yea He's guess- ing strikes in .. » Three- Finger Brown ed up in oil .+.. Nanny Pape, the Iowa fellow who beat Minnesota with a 70-yard ran, has been married for three years, ... Red Cagle, the Army football team, isn’t red haired ... But he says it used to be redder. THEY'RE STILL CHEERING When Alabama Poly defeated New York, Nov. 8.—()—Officials of the A. A. U. say they intend to bring age to the front at the annual convention here November 18 to 20. They will determine the oldest ama- teur champion, the oldest Olympic champion, the oldest intercollegiate champion, and the oldest active A. A, U. official. Special prizes will be awarded by Mayor Walker at. the anniversary dinner. CARDINALS KEEP BILL MKECHNIE St. Louis, Nov. 8.—(4)—Bill Mc- Kechnie, manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, is expected in St. Louis soon to confer with Sam Breadon, renewal of his contract. Breadon refused to comment on rumors that McKechnie would be dropped as the Cardinals’ leader. eleven in its last 17 starts. He said he thought McKechnie had = made very few mistakes during the The Simplon tunnel, running] 1928 season, following thisgpp with through the Alps, is 12 1-2 miles| the query, “Where would I get a bet- ter manager?” ' OUTSTANDING FOOTBALL GAMES SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 10 With Scores When Same Teams Met Last Year (By the Associated. Press) EAST Amherst, Mi Amherst vs. Trinity. Army (18) vs. Notre Dame (0). Boston College (27) vs. Fordham (7). Brown (7) vs. Dartmouth (19). Lehigh (6). . vs. Georgetown, Colgate (20) vs. Hobart (0). Columbia (7) vs. Johns Hapkins (7). Cornell (6). vs, St. Bonaventure (6). Harvard (0) vs. Pennsylvania (24). Holy Cross (19) vs. Boston U. (0), New Hampshire (6) vs. Gonn. Aggies (9). Lewisburg, Pa. Albany, N. Y. Hamilton, N. New York Thtaca, N. Y. Cambridge, Mas: Worcester, Mass. . Durham, New Brunswick, N. Brunswick, Me. Baltimore, Md. New York . State College, Pittsburgh, Pa. Navy (12) vs, Michigan (27). N.Y. U. vs, Alfred. president of the club, relative to the |’ FIVE MEN AND LARGE AMOUNT Sum Said to Be Between $150,- 000 and $200,000; Is New Record RAJAH CHANGES YEARLY Maguire, Jones, Leggett, Sei bold, Cunningham Players Traded Chicago, Nov. 8.—(AP)—Rogers Hornsby, the transient star of Na- tional League baseball, will next be seen in a Chicago Cub uniform. Five players and a large sum of money, perhaps the largest amount ever involved in a baseball deal, will go to the Boston Braves in exchange for the “Rajah,” who has worn the juniforms of three clubs in the past three years. . The long rumored deal, which gave the Cubs the National League's leading hitter, was completed last night in a telephone conversation between President W. L. Veeck of the Chicago Cubs and Judge Emil E. Fuchs, president of the Braves. President Veeck refused to vulge the exact sum of money in- volved, but intimated it was between $150,000 and $200,000. The highest price previously paid for a, player was $137,000 given by the New York Yankees to the Boston Red Sox'for Babe Ruth in 1920. True to President Veeck’s state- ment that the Cub team would not be wrecked to get Hornsby, only two regulars were ,included in the transaction, One was Freddie Ma- guire, who was moved to make room for Hornsby at second base, and the other was Percy Jones, veteran southpaw. The other three players were Louis Leggett, rookie catcher recalled from the Cubs’ farm at Reading, Pa.; Harry Seibold, a re- cruit hurler who starred with the Reading club last season, and Bruce Cunningham, a pitcher ac- quired from Los Angeles. It is probable the Cubs will take over Hornsby’s Boston contract, which calls for an annual salary of approximately $40,000. | eee Between halves of the recent Alabama-Wisconsin game, Governors Graves of Alabama and Zimmerman of Wisconsin paid their respects to Milo Labratovich, star Wisconsin tackle whose leg was broken on the opening kickoff of the game. The Alabama governar is shown at the’ left here, with Zimmerman in the center, and Arlie Mutks, former Oylmpic weight thrower, standing behind Labratovich. Labratovich, after having his leg placed in a cast, watched the game from the sidelines in a wheel chair. ILLINI-BUCKEYE GAME NATURAL FOR GRID FANS Columbus Battle Will Probably, Decide 1928: Big Ten Foot- ball Championship Chicago, Nov. 8—(AP)—One of the largest crowds ever gathered in| one of the largest bowls college foot- JOE DAWSON IS PILOT TEACHER Pittsburgh, Pa., Nov. 8.—Joe Daw- son, the Pittsburgh pitcher, is trying to enlagge his bankroll this winter. Dawson is very interested in avi- ation and is making Rogers Field his home. He recently bought a plane ane is conducting an aviation school ere. . While he hasn’t qualified as an in- structor, Dawson is an experienced flier in the naval aviation. He thinks his school will provide a substantial means of earning a living after his pitching days are over, IRVING NELSON BEATS GOPHERS Iowa City, Nov. §.—Irving Nelson, a blond young man, whose hair will not mind a comb, was one of the greatest high school football, basket= ball and baseball players ever de- He went to the University of I hopeful that he would become one of those great big conference stars'but he found that sepptation is needed to make a Big. Ten varsity. In his sovhomore yeathis fall he became so discouraged with his foot- ball prospects that he turned in his suit and set his mind on the basket- ball squad. Rollie Williams, stant football coach, persuaded him to return to the squad the day before the Minne- sota game and when that important game started he had his old place on the bench. ame. The left tackle job is still a attle betveen Hladky of Lester- ville and Jones of Huron. Schultz of Avon has the call at right tackle with Johnson of Timber Lake as a good reserve. | DeFrees of Faribault, Minn., and Wheeler of Mitchell have been pl: ing the ends with Clayton Homan of Scotland running them a merry chase. All three of the wing men are big rangy boys who look like varsity material. The field general job will go to Deve! Sioux Falls. Not in State College frosh out- uarterback with the ex- this blocky little ball Pekbere. is not giving out any starting line-up until the end of the week. Starters for several of the itions are still doubtful and will on the showing made this week. A squad of about 30 men will make the trip to Vermilion. LLINOIS DROPS. BILLY SHOWERS inceton (13) vs. Washington and Lee (0). Ohio Wesleyan (6). Wesleyan (12). laryland (6). Princeton, N. S; N. ms (0) v: New Haven, Con: + Yale (30) vs. Morgantown, W. V: . West Virginia vs. Oklahoma Aggies. MIDWEST Madison, W: Indianapolis, Ind. . Minneapolis, Minn. . Columbus, Oo . Milwaukee, Wis. Detroit ... Indianapolis, Ind, Omaha, Neb. Manhattan, Ka Norman, Okla. Vermilion, Evanston, Brookings, Des Moines, I «Chicago (12) vs. Wisconsin (0). + Illinois (38) vs, Butler (0). » Minnesota (14) vs, Indiana (14). «Iowa (6) vs. Ohio State (23). -Kansas vs, Marquette. , «Michigan State (7) vs. Detroit (24). «Illinois (38) vs. Butler (0). . Utah (7) Creighton (16), Minne (18) vs. Ki Aggies (6). N. D. (0). Se Louse Sol . Alabama (21) vs. Kentucky (6). + Florida (0) vs. Georgia (28). «Georgia Tech, (0) vs. Vanderbilt (0). .+- Louisiana State (7) vs. Mississippi (12), «North Carolina (6) vs. South Carolina (14). «Sewanee (12) vs. Tennessee (82). .Texas (13) vs. Baylor (12). . Te (30) vs, South. Methodists (13). 3 (6) vs. Auburn (6). Cleen ia (7) V.P, 1. (0). A e lemaon vs, V. M. I. Loyola (0) vs, Haskell Indians (3). cutear jes vs. ry. California (0) vs, Washington (6). Stanford (6) ve, Santa Clara 3): sc a dia 4 Fresno State (i0) vs. Nevada (Tn ee College of Pacific vs. Calift Colorado A; (3) vs. Colorado Xt); State Montgomery, Ala Jacksonville, Fla. Atlanta, G: Baton Rouge. 1: Chapel Hill, N. C. Shawnee, Tenn, lew Orleans, Starkville, Mi Seattle, Wash. Palo Alto, Calif. Los Portlan (0) va. Utah ‘Agwine (39). va. e (6) va, Wyoming (0), 7 ‘There arrived the situation in the game when Iowa scored a touchdown and tied Minnesota and the game could be won by converting the point after touchdown. Burt Ingwersen, the varsity coach, looked around the bench and then nearly capsized the young man when he ordered: “Get in there, Nelson, and kick int!” in and kicked the goal for that poi Nelson and won the Bearg Overcomes a Rival in Nebraska Nov. 8.-(AP)-The victories of Gwin Lincoln, .Mi long record He by Ernest E. Bearg was bro! st le was En with the homb! of the Mis- souri Tigers by the Nebraska Corn- buskers. The victory shot) Nebraska far in front as a contender for the Missouri Valley conference title. Al The good-natured feud between' Henry and Bearg began in the Kan- sas ference. Henry was direct- ing athletics at the Collen of, Em- ria and Bearge ruled at Washburn college, T 4 Henry's tea Weshburns in body oe as Ei always defeated almost every- five years Henry was of coached teams over those pre- | center ball ever built has a genuine “na- tural” carded for its pleastre at Columbus, O., Saturday. " The two unbeaten and | untied teams of the western conference, Ohio State and the University of Towa, will have the afternoon to decide, probably, the 1928 champion- ship of the Big Ten. Wisconsin is the other unbeaten school of the conference, but a tie with Purdue clouds the Badger record. _ To offset Ohio’s running and overhead attack, lowa will present Mayes McLain, plunging Cherokee Indian fullback, and Oren Pape, the fleet footed back. ‘ A down and out Chicago eleven is preparing for a game with Wiscon-, sin at Recon: As pana cal ch Stage will put a cripple jicago: team on the field. Not once: this season has he been able to present his full strength against an oppon- ent. Northwestern may fear Purdue but Purdue also. fears. Northwestern. Therefore :there is ont to ‘be a real battle at Evanston this week when Jimmy. Phelan his Pufdue Boilermakers against Dick Hanley’s Wildcats, 5 While Michigan is settling. an argument with the navy at ‘Balti- more, and Jllinois furnishes the ded- ication attraction for a new . stad- ium at Butler, Minnesota and In-| | diana will attempt to even an old score at Minneapolis. Since Indiana put the Gophers out of the confer- ence race last year with a 14 to 14 tie, Minnesota has felt “none too indly toward the Hoosiers, Indiana had an off day in the schedule last week, while Minnesota will senda battered team on the field, crippled by the absence of Captain rge Gibson. DESERVES -MORE ATTENTION Harry Stuhldreher, former Notre Dame star, says Lou Pessolano, tackle and captain for Villa Nova this year, is one of the greatest tackles he ever saw in action. Savannah Golfers Have Long Affair Savannah, Ga., Nov. 8—(AP)—A record-breaking match between two local golfers competing in the an- nual President’s Cup tournament has given the Savannah Golf Club mem- bership something to talk about. Originally scheduled for only 18 holes, the ‘contest went 72 before it was decided. Dr. C. F. Holton, a three handi- lly won, three up and cap man, two to play, over James Groves, who hi of 15. At the end of the first 18 holes, the contestants were all square. The rules of the handicap tournament made it compulsory to play the match over again, & 7] The following day they played an- . other 18 holes and found themselves still in a deadlock. At the end of 54 holes, which was reached the next day, the tie persisted. By this time the whole club had become aroused and the gallery partisanship between followers of the two playets waxed heated. Going out the next day, the 63rd hole found them again all even and the struggle had taken on all the appearences of a championship en- counter. On the final nine -of the 72 hole round, however, ‘the ‘veteran ‘Dr. Holton forged ahead of his less ex- perienced opponent and quickly piled up. a three hole margin which Groves was unable to cut down. Fights Last Night | _—— ty) (By The Associated Press) Cleveland, O.—Billy Wallace, Cleveland, outpointed Bruce it gee New Rochelle, N. Y., Milwaukee, Wis.— Vie Bur- rone,, New York, outpointed Young Nationalista, Los Ange- les, (10). Joey Clein, Milwau- kee, outpointed Red Fry, St. Paul, (6). RACE FOR SCORING HONORS Spud Lewis, halfback, and Biff Hoffman, fullback, are making a ‘two-way race on the Stanford. team for scoring honors this year. IT’S A LOCAL TALENT TEAM All members of the varsity squad at Florida are residents of the state. Fifteen of the 33. varsit from either Tampa or NICE WORD FOR LONG Harvey Long, rangy tackle for the Detroit eleven, is rated as one of the best defensive tackles in the country by mid-western experts. Follows in Brothers’ Steps Smith, for Seventh Year in Row, Plays With Missouri ‘of the same Smith family from in 1022, when he was a sopho- Smit the jol that Smith was still play- center for. uri, However, iene Glenn Sm ‘a brother of Clyde, Bhool ast June. w With ‘his departure, the third of the Smiths ca is ES nee Sarees mporia lost.only three | ter for Missouri! this officials me into is predict a tke a ipa playing cen- his job.as @ sopho-|' ld it until be finished o aenrber of ths Raymond Smith —— CAPTAINS SWIMMING TEAM seed ie was Da cal swimt ‘look ahead for years to come. Governors Console. Injured CARNEGIE TECH eee Star Wisconsin Tackle Had Leg Broken on Opening Play of Game 4 COACH IS BUSY DURING SEASON | Has ‘Trouble Balancing Schetl- ule; Puts Out One of Best in East There are few who will realize the scenes enacted behind the success of a football team. While the coaches are busily en- gaged in the development of the team, the graduate manager and his aides also play a prominent part in keeping the athletic wheel turning. A stroll aos to Schenley Park where the Carnegie Tech’s buidings are situated will find Clarence Over- end the graduate manager of the Plaid institution hard at work pre- paring for the games to come anc also for future seasons. Schedule making, distribution of tickets and countless details hold the attention of the Tartan graduate manager. He supervises the athletic ivities and must guard closely against any of the athletes on the various teams that they not fall be- low in their studiés. > Qverend’s task is endless. He works from morning until dusk lay- ing plans for the future. He mgst is biggest worry comes during the sea- son. Balances Grid Schedule While the football team prepares for games from week to week, Over- end wajghs his grid schedules. He must see that they are well balanced. He must not sandwich too many hard games but neverthless he must get attractive contests that are appeal- ing to the public. with Carnegie Tech’s grtdiron eleven classed among the best of east fans are now asking what the Tar- tains will do when they stack up against Se Bae ele University . at Albany, N. Y., November 10, Notre Dame at South Bend, Ind., November 17, and New York University here, November 24. It is a stiff assignment for any college eleven. .Notre Dame_ has been beaten twice but Knute Rock- ne’s ‘outfit has the happy faculty of - rising to great heights. The Fight- ing Irish have demonstrated this time after time. Georgetown and New York are the high scorers of the east. Both are moving at furious pace and there ie no telling when they will stop. Like in former years, N. Y. U boasts of a rugged team. It has run roughshod over most of its oppon- nts. Several weeks hence, when the All- America selections are made, you'll likely see Captain Howard Harpster, of the Plaid, in the running for All- America honors. He is the triple threat of the Tar tan machine this fall. It is a knows fact that Carnegie is doped to be ont o the outstanding teams of the year Harpster Ends Career _ Harpster lives in Akron, Ohio, and is playing. his final season of foot- all, He excels at passing and punt- ing and last year developed into ar excellent ball-carrier. He is coo under fire and displays rare general: ship on the field that few collegiani posse: In addition to being a star football pe Harpster also shines in asketball and is one of the best stu defits in school. Walter P. Steffen, who for 11 months during the year sits a: judge of the Superior court in “ cago, is advisory coach at the Plaic institution. He takes his vacation in September and uses the entire month in supervising the training of the Carnegie squad. Steffen as an undergradute played quarterback for three years at Chicago. For four years after graduation he aided Stagg at Chi- cago before becoming connected with Carnegie Téch in 1914. °- The present arrangement, whereby Coach Steffen sees his team only on week-ends has been in force for three ls of the athletic association have repeatedly refused his resigna- tion’and are content with the present arrangement. While he is away, the responsibility of developing the play- ers is with Coach Robert N. Waddell, former Bucknell University star, and Dr. William L. Marks, school physi- cian and former University of Penn- sylvania luminary. WE HAVE ANOTHER EXPERT «Ted Coy, famous Yale back of other ‘years, is now “experting” for a San Francisco paper, ink his opinions of Pacific coast teams and eastern teams. . DON’T WRITE, WIRE Teacher: If you never learn to write how will you be able’ to carry Ok Sp Epepenience when you grow uP. Johnny: I won't have to do an, writing, because all of my folks ive right in town.— Youngstown Tele- gram. « Y Latitude is caid to have been first determined by Hi i about 162 B. é. : epEren dali (ewe AER SEES RAEN -