The San Francisco Call. Newspaper, March 3, 1903, Page 2

THE SAN FRANCISCO CALL, TUESDAY, Frederick S. Samuels and John W. Curry Give Details Officials Beliove They of Battle by Which John D. Spreckels & Brothers| ™ 5. o1 Track of the Company Forced Combination to Make Big Rebate Assassin. MARCH 3, 1903. SIDENT ISSUES PROCLAMATION - CALLING SENATE TO EXTRA SESSION House Majority Again Changes Rules in Order to Check the Democratic Filibuster, but Little Prc?g- ress Is Made Toward Disposing of Important Bills ~ 2 - ——— Th & | 3 - s ree Women Closely Ques- # 5 3 4 5 2 g | UR vessels were being charged very high prices for towing and finally we determined to Honeabo the Dletriot ASHINGTON, March 2.—The President to-day issued the following p.roclamatlon. ’ . - P g 3 . ““ K 3 Tas e 1C R - { go into the towing business ourselves for the purpose of trying to break up this combina- A y B_\‘ the Presxden.t Of. the United S_tate> of America—A Proclamation: el ] tion, against which the Legislature had failed to give us any relief. So we went into the ttQrey. “Whereas, Public interests require that the Senatc_sbouli convene in ex ad shoat business and fought both the pilots and the other tugboat companies, and-the way we SR s i dinary session; therefore, I, Theodore Roosevelt, Prcsndent- of the ¥n|ted States of .'\merl‘jza“t (f; Id fight them would be that we would tow the ships outside away from the pilot-boats and ward I ‘B, -whose body: was found hereby proclaim and declare that an extraordinary occasion requires the Senate of the . e s the vessels in, so that the pilots could not board them, and theresult was we reduced the in his “den” on the first floor of his home States to convene at the Capitol in the city of Washington on the fifth day of March ne._\thdt = 2 . p-* cpsee 3 58 E on Ashland avenue with the skull crushed . % i % 2 3 to act as rs of that stage fees so much that a few years later they came to us dn(! proposed that the fighting 10 5 ol s M. Burdiik's mother: 12 o'clock noon, of \\_h:ch all persons w ho shall at that time be entitled membe ‘ 1d cease, and that they would treat us fairly in the matter. So we told them that we knew ls\:w Hull, who was the first P 20 body are hereby required to take notice. h ! | 1 cease, a1 at the) s . 3 R = ot scover the body last Friday morning, | “Ciiv K f ni Jashingtc secon | of the compact that tliey had with the other company, and that we would insist on their paying Were summaned o the District Altorney s Given under my hand and the seal of the Lm'le«llSta:esdat }\t;ie;flg;;r;.otfh:heci;d; | £ 1 = - o / - fice v -day, hey d 2 N 1 2 and s C & us that same amount of money, which they finally a;zr_tcd_ to _do. And then as soon that i:’“‘c:"‘;‘i’r ;or‘;m:é m:'nlelbwo“‘;:;:f 'n’\:, day of March, m'tl?e vear of our Lord one thousand |_nne> um.( rel ’ 1 noneyv was paid to us, having made this fight in behalf of shipowners, we refunded this money two women were questioned separately. pendence of the United States the one hundred and twenty-seventh. | money was pa e s Sk s : . - Another unknown woman figured in the | i THEODORE ROOSEVELT | to shipowners, and the proof of this is in the evidence that we have here—the vouchers.— | inquiry to-day. She was well dressed and | | 3 X <LT. | = prise e e . - 3 I a apparentiy of refi t. It was said on | | 3 i % J 7 H | Excerpt from testimony of Fregerick S. Samuels, director-in the firm of John D. Spreckels & ‘lgtgd iy B Hnant 0 W b 1Tt By the President: JOHN HAY, Secretary of State. R Siteiiid | tion with the case. She was one of the : 2% Dros. Company | women intimately acquainted with the | -~ - s Burdick family vhe th authorities - - S i — - T r o ;ht,;‘ndc m:,,mmh:, AR o AT something ASHINGTON, March 2.—From | Public Buildings and Grounds, was recog- ASHINGTON, March 1.—The D. Spreckels & Bros Mr. Shortridge: Q.—I do not understand the | tnat would assist in unraveling the tan- 11 o'clock this morning until nized and moved to suspend the rules, the Senate amendments to Senate to-day passed the gen f Continued From Page 1, Column 7. }mum_n of the question; possibly the witness | gled threads, late to-night the House strug- | disagree to . eral deficiency bill after four - : - - £s? A.—Yes, sir. | does? { While an arrest i the case at the pres- | £ i B the omnibus pyblic buildings bill and s hours’ consideration and after part of that business the | Mr. Emmons: QDo you understand what | ent' tiree: apmes s, B outh bR i Atk sled laborfously against the | ,p. by 5 conference. had b ynded 1 . ;i 2 {1 mean? "A.—1 understand, but 1 would like | EEbsaxe: tu_be. on Aot Democratic filibuster, working | ' (:owherd of Missonri invelghed against it has een amended in mittee Q T you keep no separate ac- | to have it a little bit clearer. tlon, the officials have learned some n * sl - he Republicans | several particulirs. An amendment ints as to at has been pald. agd what | Q.—The idea of the question is why do they | things that have set them upon a course , Steéadily to wind up the necessary business | the dangerous precedents the D' P St A adilis, - GARaE for -om sggidag | might be called a tugboat account? | pay you any money allowed them by the State that may bring quick results. It is hint-|of the session. Despite another special rule | were setting in the closing days of this | offer ¥ a’ . the reorganizat Mr. Shortridge—Q.—That 1s correct, it it?| for ‘thase pllot charges? A.—Through fear | o that they tirely in the dari | adopted Iy in the day, legisiati ro- | Sesslon—precedents which would come | appropriation of $50,000,000 to further g ergon Ty e | tha it the do not do so that we Wil tow | o caroh SOk the mord A NEE] e B h s e G87, Jegislation BFO- | kavk to haunt them tn future Congresses. | (s work of IWrigatiig the arid of Mr. Emmons—Q. Wil you let me see the | &hips away from them and cut down their in- . In their search for the murderer, and that| ceeded at a snail's pace. Roll call fol- e e T o e 3 a statements there, please? (Witness hands bun- | come. |1t is only a question of claborating upOn | jowed roll Edltion ey, Trapositioat X He po(m?d out particularly e uling o | 1ands, was the subject of considerable dis- - die of papers to Mr. Emmons.) .- In gther words that the tugboats are able . present knowledge to fasten guilt upon vesterday, that certain matters piace: Take this bottom sheet, Mr. Samuels, | to “take ships away s that_the pilots canpot seme one. City Chemist Hill i= at work | voices of the reading clerks were worn the District bill were in order and the cussion, Rawlins contending that the sur- s e examined 10-|and tell me what th = 1 — — ; § 3 b r d e TS sbowing the amount of money that they have | Q.—-And through fear of that they pay you jncluding the examination of the liquor | and several clerks from committees have |appeal. Such a ruling, he declared{ opened | In this manner thgn by 8, : LRy o §; ? X i v o * th banks. The amendment was 4 Merchants' Towboat 1';"‘ to the ""'g-l of Jn\u; l'{ b“x:;erkfli &wm«; | :hldl llxl:h‘pllnllg:vr 1A.hr\’:-l.‘ »irm SR !'fcund in Burdick's den and the contents | been drafted to help out. Since Thursday | the way for ‘raiding and looting e | the national anks. e the pilots paid us sgrebate was $1879 22, and | sir . 700 PAY it back to shipa? A.—Yes, | ;¢ pyrdickis stomach. Tast, when the fillbuster was Inaugurated, | treasury. = Towa asserted. tiat the | TSeTTed 08 & point of order. . " p wher, pilots hand us this statement that is | TUG BILL IS ALL. The District Attorney =aid to-night he | there have been more than sixty roll calls, D ep! 't" s . "fMC' the situ.| ‘vhen the Aldrich financial biil was two « oS TR tote) MUEPRD SRt SNOR VOOMRD 38 | Q. And 45 60 of -theb thriok harge WAS Still of the opinion that the assassin | as agalnst fifty-seven for the entire long | Démocrats were responsible for the | taken up Teller continued his remarks e nt with us. Then they have deducted = on top of that though you charge | ' " ation againgt which they now complained. | 2 foll d b: » benefit of that amount, which I presume “mlxmm & lughoat charge for towing? A | Wwas a woman. gession, lasting from December 1, 1901, to | 7, 0 majority, he said, would prefer am. | Pesun on Saturday. d}le was ',IW'P F Commissioners. apd that ileaves | Well, We have not charged them anviRiDg &t | @ tuturettoitotetututestutuoniorosiuforfofoe July 3, 1902. * ¢ - | Carmack, who replied to some criticisms ¥ sooliine went inte execii- cent that we get—no, excuse me. | &1L yel on top of——our tug bill Is all that we | ® TRt : ‘.H"[ The members also show the effects of r:;:('i'c‘:':g’:&“_’:nx'r:::n‘:“';"":';;'p;z_ | of a recent speech by him on the sub- ¢ sesstor f a discussion last PILOTAGE EXCEEDED. | Q—On top of this balf-pilotage you pay there would be no competition. There is mo | the heavy strain, but they are sticking j ject of murders in the Philippines. | back to them you charge them for towing? | competition at present. There is harmony ex- | to their posts. To-night the great hall tion of the Democrats in compelling a During the course of the day the con- s g - YR R (D g I R g : isting as lonk as this rebate is Deing giVen | presonted 4 disheveled appearance. The | 0l ,cal:_on e:eflb:ounn necessitated the | 0 Dort on the fortifications ap- : S TR e i Tatertre’ with ohe Peots, (2% | ‘NI Shortridge: @ —To the shipowners? A.— | loor Was strewn with bits of paper, look- | © g:‘b;fln:n thcnelnnt to conference, | Propriation bill and the Afaskan home- presen t inesday morn- o P A | A —Deciastly not. % P | To the shipowners. ing as if a snov;norm‘hld swept thmu&h 28 to & . !lleml bl:il were hn:reed b‘l;’ t’;r';lqd lmml'l:'l«\- E i bills now be- s right, which in . In other words. the tughoats have the | the hall. In the galleries, among e - S tion an nibus public building bilis leeg will be amended in What is th a | best of the situation? A.—No, sir; the ship- | AELL KOFEY RETURNED. spectators, were many weary watchers| C00Per of Wisconsin, chairman of the | Were sent 20 confevenes. Dt 1 in he eal i where | Sy 1Ay Ui bert of 1, ana’the State hax | @ Pracueallv? A practicaly, yen ste | Sk ated in’ ills doomed to failure, but | Committee on dex and paes the bill to| DEBATE ON IRRIGATION Sl e s te | the best of it. T ct that the tugboats Q.—The motive rlying thé action o - su > i oing _business in San | heen AEhtng the pilots has seiuesd. the ex. | John D. Spreckels. people was o please thaig | Still hoping on to the end. The proceed- | 5uspend the rules and pass ‘the 4 the Pacific Towboat Company penses of & vessel in towage and pllotage com- | clients and to reduce the charge of pllotage? A.—Ye; | ings were enlivened geveral times as the make provision for a Delegate in Con- When Rawlins offered his amendment e llen & { h - | ; L i 50~ foe Pcific Ton _owned by Ferking & Co.'and"mer B s com: | " Gict Mo as ure. ploasp:_ahow me | 3 LWt actuatad them in this movemen, | 10ET8 Of the respeliive sides crosed | £1GRS, [tom Forlo Rics, Afier.some de- | (o tne defciency bill. approprieiing K0 = , “. g hat time \mn::w::h;; ';zr\»:g:“\l ::;:: |T1‘517 :1:3}020:-.3‘; :-‘)):Tdu!l:dw?fnwml::dhti).ikmffi:(flix -;:.m’{“m carried out, \and | Sweetomed by their Wnx vigll'and fré: SOME HUMOR CREEPS IN. :n::g;;!eor-l purposes, Hale remarked, amid s lowbaat " company | thia” tugbort. campans, wrked " iogother. And | heses 8120 e Baie ot boat Caambans Soms | Soie b it afpmonty, colleted are, réum. | quéntly.the apasiks few. Steele of Indiana moved to suspend the | ®UFYCL, 1, ljiiie mattert T wil have — At that | the rates they then charged were very €x- | io charge about $100 {or the same. atrvice | | Q—AS Iy requited” i) ; NET RESULTS OF.THE DAY. |rules and f;::ccc:elxgn“?’g to prohiblt | {; maicea point of order against it o ik | A it ;rul_\‘;m;:_xm..';'mr:' the oo atfhal Gime 4| B Warlo S ciEtne e Atuicduced | The conference reports on the Alaskan bty s g B = v The amendment was ruled out. was retained 1 line of to break up this combination, against the Legislatures had failed to give any T Q.—Then the only get just as much money [ think not. ~The Millen Griffith Company Q Mr. French—Q.—What itselt and kept it? A.—Yes, sir. would the tugboats | met if ‘that were donme? 3 A.—Nothing. The oh- got that homestead bill and the immigration bill nf assistant surgeon general and a bill for the relief,of Lieutenant B, F. Hand- appointment of Major William Crawford Gorgas as assistant surgeon general of | Rawlins said that the discussion that Rawiins was prejudicing the st 1 the allowed by the State? A.—No; as far as [ reduction that ha i A.—Noy o i ’ S - - o : S0 that bes| kupw the pliots @id not, DAt the taEboat cpw. | malis 80 Far s Th. Bibis 1o ootaris oo T | Ha pets TuIl Mibaon tavard aod e s nott | were 8004405 the. oINS pUMIS Dolid® i ot Die Smimedn {rust trying to de-| Aldrich financial bill had disclosed the s burden was im. PaBy exceeded | the towboat charges? A.—Yes, sir. | pilotage outward, If you would cut that 50 per | ing bill and the general deficiency appro- (o B cops oalafiiore lied Steele. I have | fact that there was locked up in the urden Mr. Shartridge (interrupting)—Exceeded the | G:— You do not know of any wl}ifi.‘n‘lfi ‘}R’lfl'flfl'?i.f{‘,flf”‘ lotage inward and | priation bill was sent to conference. Beadd bart (;‘:u'h{:‘}’)e gt €| treasury $400.000000. Some of th ‘ 9 pilotage? Yes, sir. exceeded the pilotage | Dliot charges themselves? A. | QI Gt Tt 85 per cent, and the pilot woula | The Otjen bill, to prohibit tobacco dealers S 5 - | thought. should be used in the construc- r 1o velieve themselves of this | towing. and finally We determined to go Into | fees that we received, which they did not get You cut it 25 per cent, he would get the same ' a Delegate ffom Porto Rico, a bill to ad- rules and pass the bill to authorize the | 1tall the people. suré D. Spreckels & Bro: towing business ourselyes for the purpose | Pefore Wwe went fiito the towage business, | as_be has net now. vance Major W. C. Gorgas to the rank P - . Burton interrupted with the statement 1 | | gboa ess in com- o Copieasires S MY | Q.—You, in order to protect your own ship- that we were after would be accomplished, “ gy ,e | Of irrigation. g s in_con S0 we went into the tughoat business | G- (interrupting)—and the shipping ot e Chuirman—Q.—Could not other tugboai forth were passed. That was the net re. | theé army. Slayden said the purpose of will take chances on hurting irriga- ’ mon cutting td, Tonabe beck tie Daiots Ank Whe other | G Cilenta ov Tonelanare s S0 e ALoacr | compknise. Sibes KA the ous. SO PR e | LD HaLe] session/up to 9 o'clock {o. | the Dill Was to recognize the eonspicuous oo g ng B0 Aowm. LA N | ot comspsnis, g She Ay T8 g "F_:“ | this company to run Millen Griffith out? A.- | and the Merchants'—would not other tugboat | night service of Dr. Gorgas in Cuba during the Why don’c you make it $300,0000007" n n such a|them would gy e > Ships | Yes, sir le es interfere and compete with th 4 vi > 3 . 3 e ‘ pilot-boats | CUiside away from thé pilot boats and bring | You did that. And the money they had | A—No, sir: because their position 1a| When the House reconvened to-day the S:::t":‘n :’::“,rm)fi";e ,,“:‘;r':";“"”h"l';,‘;c ';,?,‘, asked Spooner. = soss bourd. | the ves in %o 1‘Iml”flv‘-" mln-lp“cmflt;ll po-i | put in their private pockets you paid back to ! the same as ¢ now. pending question was on the adoption of S Sras et assed, 133 to 27 . Allison remarked that he thought the 1 : _ | board and the result was we reduced | the ship? A.—Yes, air. | . Q—When any other tughoat takes a ship|the confernce report on the Alaskan |® » B Panncas 0. < $10.000.000 now on hand for irrigation pur- ng 1 nto the | the pliotage fees 80 much thet a few years | "0 " Hut you do ‘oot know of any redustion | S0t Tor Tamtance—towa s shm vt hooas i 1hp ' | Gardner of New Jersey moved to sus- e oo s s 5 . > heavily that the | laier they came to us and proposed thel the | in pilot charges since that time? A.—No, no. | lect the amount of money a4 specified in hers | NOMestead bill. Richardson, the minority | S&rqher of New Jersey moved to Sus- | poges was sufficient for the fiscal year. to the Spreckels | Driting shouis cease and that they would | Q.—Then what difference did it make to (he | the same as the Spreckels Compans? A |leader, In pursuance of the filibustering tain whether Lieutenant Benjamin Frank-| Rawlins concluded by asking Hale (o Sph st treat faitly in the matter. 8o we told | pliots Whether they paid it to the Millen Grif. | There are two tugboat comfanies—ougs and the | programme attempted to make the point s 2 withdraw his point of order. Hale de- b es for peace ( ‘we. knew of this compact that they | DUy Combang Le¥ Pald it e | Shipowneds' and “Merchafts —and they both{ that a quorum must be ascertained to be | 17 Handforth was insane at the time he | 5y oq" » e s company de- | hag the other company and that we | does it make to tha Statés 4 t makes no! have the fame understanding pilots, is. | Was dismissed from the army, and if <o by Me ¢ ua ots should pay them | woula insist on their paying us that) same | difference to ‘the pilots themee nor to the | Q.—In bther wotds, cath acts for the other | Present before business could be trans- | ("o ™ pyn o0 U8 BV, GRCE P9 | An amendment offered by MeLaurin tis been paying the Pa- | #mount of money, which they finally agreed | State, unless it is gn advantageyio the State | it this matter? A.—No, we have no ar-|Acted, but the Speaker declined to enter- army, g 5 Missinsippl, sppropristing 3200 o vel ny. This was agreed | 2 99 And then ‘as soon as that money was | to have the port of San Francis¥o known as ' Taugement with the other tugboat companies, | tain the point, and on demand of Payne. | " guis £ N Fork K N it | burse the people of Indianola, Miss., for A s was agreed | ;449 (o ue, having made this fight on behalf | & cheaper port than It was fourceen yo | The pilot deals with them Independentiy of us. | the majority leader, a roll call was or- ulzer of Neyv York remarked that It| moneys expended by them for carrying people, instead of shipowners, we refunded this money to| Q.-—Would not that condition onis LM Q—Independently of you? A=-¥ew air. | goliq Gotans penaredt Al onlt M Yas strange Mr. Gardner could call up | ing majis to and from Heathman and In- ’ - half piiotage into their pock- | the shipowners, and the proof of this is in | Samuels, as long as you keep up this agree. | . Q.—As 1 understood the statement heré by 5 g q n. € T~ | the pending bill. whiie he (Sulzer) could | at pc 5% s i ¢ as ihe others had been doing, vol- | the evidence that we have here—the vouchers, | ment? Would i not e a fact that it you | Captain Barber, he divided the sum of money | POrt was agreed to, 207 to 3. not get up a similar relief bill Snots. wes-Tgies out 8 8 Joint of en- rid ‘ e owners of the shi Mr. Emmons—Q.—That is for twe yeas ook a notion to put that in your pocket as | With the two fugboat companies according to| Grosvenor then presented the special “Was your man insane?’ asked Rich- der by Hal “wagss ¢ 3 b vessel for | A:—Well this Is only for two years, but we | the :\l|lkn“:lvruflm|(‘omplny did—it would be | the service Performed 'ml'%v each during the | rule to put the immigration bill into con- e ?” asked Rich-| “ppg nill was reported. snd ecensidera- on eac secl fOr | 5l as 1 tell you, give you the records for | ame thing as it was then? A.—Yes, sir. & hat is right. e by gt A i « Aldrich clal bill was re- oA RAl Thoe out- | ot aae . TR0 Nt7e X Ay | . @~—Then it is only debending upon the good | Mr. Emmons—Q.—The festimony of Captain ’fm“f’ ,‘;’ a ‘“'": vote and to cut oft | “iNp repiied Sulzer; “but he will be if “"",':," DN R O Y he witness exg @ What ehip was That—the first snip | 310 of the tusboat companies o the shipping | Barber, as I Spaerstgod it whs Shia: | Toat § She e L "‘e"“ e I“; the 'fl‘”(:’“fie 1 don’t get his bill through.” S proetin g there? A —This one—this is the second of | that this condition lasts? A.—Yes, sir, 1 guess of the gross income from the pilot | reports. svenor briefly explained the N FOR DITCHES IN HAWAIIL . 1t by Benatons | Smmye, dhowing the'temistmats” mmade. oo i | PRRE f8 Miuaat’ Hant: G, "Xna that 50 per bent of the balapes s | Jc0Pe of the rule.. After o bitter debate| GONS BAOK TO CONFEHENOR. |, -0 LCCPEC L HERARE ol Welwh a5 1o wheth., | ¥REr. and we have not had time to get his by MrK Emmons—That is what I want. That | T Ana fhasd R gkt S 20 the previous question was ordered, 162 to | The Senate amendments to the general| -ldrich yie . . o » Veloh ,; Wheth- | receipi back. but %o that there \lll])w no dis- s“nr i 5 : fi D ? A 103, and the rule was adopted. 164 to 101 | deflelency appropriation bill wers dls. |3 Substitute for the bill granting to the pegiesS oy ate of | Q-Fow much was the money? that some $800 or $750 during the last month | PHIOL fros b, ing )t oyer to the tugboat | Californla voted with the Democrats. ference, 197 to 0. bic i g 3 s Dphoas e e s . o thet was paid 1o the tughoat people, or practically | e g § ooty ah Hemenway of Indiana then presented| LoOwd presented the conference report | [Fi€ls - & 2 and the withess | “g Pwiee ahip was it for? to John D. Bpreckels Company. You know of | somn the fes to that cetensr A g ately the conference report on the fortifications | on the postoffice appropriation bill. The | Wa!l for the purpose of construction of ir- i her g | e T ot i By i A L et A Doty et e made, Mr. Bam- [ 'Q. od then there would be o Turther tom- | ADOTODHAGON DAL, 16 was adartes Eh | rapdrt wasadonted: s L HEAtas Schon siadiy s St . No other tug- It e Betshew by this »\memomi 3 Only from what I bave read in the | pefition? A.—None whatever, to. 8 4, 2 The conference report on the agricul Foraker explained his substitute at wa would be abie 0. And the next one— = .—And the commere s ; 5 3 < @ : O I webiw reoiy, e ix s e that about the sum paid? A | perelieved from et cxceomive eneopes "o [ Under the operation of the special rule | tural bill was adopted, 182 to 2. G s O M A POGR. - T A the work. | ohere is a call of the House on an urgency | Yes air: the amount carm he shown here (In- | Yes, sir, that would settle. It. aithoer ey | adopted earler in the day the Speaker | Shortly after 11 o'clock about fifty mem- froog e g sarem & (he siahtn ot xo com o & the work . > | dicating). The Tast month? | gre’now hasios the benent or il at present, | then laid before the House the immigra~ | bers congregated in the Republican cloak- !.‘ S;‘:l:’;;.“;"fi]:"“uif;;“i; k;‘;:l"‘h‘:lhi Senator § asked A.—8830 21. 8 but it would decide it definitely. tion bill, with Senat a room and passed the time singing & R S~ tess w he w O < this full sum of money. $830 21, | “Upt Voo i g : , mate amendments. The | ging. { ’ ut io be ear b phint paid to the company which _\m:“:):p?\"-‘m- ol e afiunr[:'lul n:le"d(;:l';:f:' and | Dill was sent to conference, 1% to 1, and | The conference revort on the immigra- m;_':n:h?.p Fs:‘l’:éd that hi b 3 ' e replie i owned this No. 2 s, _Eir | incoming? A.—Xo, only to the outgoing. the aker appointed Shattue, Adams |tion bill was presented. With the ques- 5. f,h?f':j‘. Tl o S _ituts . R ot er)? A.—A. & at part of It was | Q—Tien it would resuli in that much re- | and Robb as conferces. tion of the adoption of the report pe i b S P isk n you got a towage charge on top of Yes, sir. And by reason of a compact with the | Association you refund to the ship- | ners the charges that pilots make and col t2 A Pilc A —Between the Millen & Griffith Company A.—All of it, duction if we provided by law for the gen- sir. Q.—And these are the vouchers showing that that $K30 21 was paid to these shipowners as specified here In these receipts? A.—Yes, sir. TROUBLE IS SAVED. you would reach this. Q.—(Interrupting)—same results? results. Mr. French—Q —Then what would there be to prevent you people from going out and tak- ing a ship and towing it In? = A.—There ia A.—Same further, and if he does that he signals to the | guage, and it is unsaft anyway to tow In the right to give back any part of it? They have a right to give back an they pléase out of thelr own money. k= money | lots have or the State have that when the .WWW. Q.—There would be no boat if they organized? A Q.—RBecause the money You coilect you give the tug”/ ir them when we made this agreement with the The conference report on the Alaskan i ing, Payne, the majority leader, moved . o @Al of that sum? A o hana | Gp&) Teduction on the rates? A1t you mado SPEAKERS USE BITTER WORDS. | a tecess until 11 o clnek ‘to-morrow. The | homestead bill was agreed to. ver you? Th ement that in my hand | the pilotage rates—left them s they ars com- . e y ; : . vote o age—hall pilotage that = for the month of January, 19037 A.—Yes, | ink, ‘and cut them 50 per cent §oing out, then | MLCrCer, chairman of the Committee on | motion prevailed, 134 to 4. S S Jovswt Sar & vt = the statehood bill at 9 o'clock to-night. “Is this a farewell request on this sub- inquired Spooner, amid laughter. Beveridge objected. Teller then offered an amendment to per | Tec e e T At | o disayas there any profit whatever to the | nothing to prevent us from doing It except | o,Mr. Shortridge—I would like to state, Mr. | to the shipowners? A.—Give (he monsy back | the Aldrich biil providing that the Secre. PILOTAGE REDUCED. There ix o compact between the tugboats | towboat company out of the handling of this | this: The Dilots are an’ absolute necesmity | CHAIFman. that T am notified by a mote that | G o Amd vor e s ' oY ship- | tary of the Treasury, with the written wing i verbatim report of | and the pilot money e whatever. I might qualify | here in this port. There are a great number | the Lewls harbor bill is up for vassage. and a | owners generally when you entered Into this | approval of the Pres dent, may use so Q. —Didn’t T understand you to use the word | that by ting that it is wome advantage to | of Itallan and French ships that come here, | S of the House is on, and can you not leave | competition ? es, sir. much of the $150,000,000 of the geld s resider A | At B e B o paEard 10 | U to handle the money, In this respect: When | on board of Which not a man can talk Kng- | {OF & few minutes? I do not know anything | Q. And by Gorrespondence and agreement . g s S - ? Millen & Grifith Tughoat Company, that | the ship gocs to sca the captain settles his lish. We would not undertake to tow a ves. | 8bout that bill. A few more votes are needed. | with them you made this demand? A - ¥ . |SeTve provided by the act of Mareh 11, ot ng | Y0 aseoriained there was such a compact? | bills, and after we tow him sutside very fre [ e imto"the port or San ‘Francisco without a | , Mr, EmmonsThere Is & question T desire | sir E x . as is not required for the faithful ex- e o queritly he makes up his mind, before we let | pllot on board whera none of the crew on board efore We £o down to the Senate, and | Q.—For them practically? A.—They we e Sene @ | WAR BRINGS AGREEMENT. | J7IN,0b hawser. that he wants to be towed | understood our signals or the English lan- | that is this: What guarantee would the pi- | not aware that we were Eoing o sich 1t 1o % | Continued on P:g: 4, Collum; 37. {and the pliots 1 belleve there was a compact, | tug to' tow him further, and then we have | vesseli without a pilot on board. You take e per cent. or | pilots. They did not know we would do that, - © you any ac- | bt there'is no compact between myself and | an understanding with the ship's captain that | them In with a hawser about 950 feet long. atever the proper percentage might be. to | Q. —What did they think vou would dp with wimts showing how much money has been | the pilots in the event of our towing him further there It Is impossible to signal to them at \some down to what you think is | that money? A.—We did not tell them any- ADVERTISEMENTS. vrned over to you by the Pilot Association Q.—Didn’t 1 undsrstand you also to say that | would be another charge imposed. Of courss time or another, and~you are liable to get . What guarantee have the pilots ar | thing about it The matter came in an wup. | L Ve owing to. that se-called compact, that you— | he i unable {o give uz a bill or order at that | into trouble. the State that another tugboat assoclation | expected manner to us. When the pilots fompe | " A . < here are those accounts? A.—1 have | when I k of You I mean the John D. | time on hiswners for the money, but It Is| Q-~—If You do tow in a vessel with a pilot | Would not go in and do the same identical ears here, and we would 1te for several vears limited time within | Spreckels & built your taking ¢ Bros. ~ Company—organized a1l own-towhoats for the purpose »f re of your own ships, and then went | understood that we will deduct that out of the half pilotage when we receive it from the haif pilotage . what percentage of the fees does the pilot get where vou tow in? A.—They get it all. PILOT RETAINS FEE. pilots. Ko that when wWe get thing that you have? A.—Well, you have not any guarantee—you have not any; you do not need any out that we were cutting so deeply Into their bustness and it was necessary warfare to a to bring the close they proposed to us te stop fighting them and we told them we would Dr. Shdob’s our papers together, amd | further then that, and fold the Pilot Associa- | from the pilots. then we deduct any bills tha Q.—Could not a man with a tugboat go out | not stop fighting them until they refunded . - e e B | e areement oy compact, and | the ship 1s owing to us, and it is put on the | Mr. Shortridge—Q —Do you not get a fec and do the same thing that the John D. | this maney to e and thes consonted tr. that forporation & Bros. | made an agreement with them in regard 10 | youchers here and you will find on the vouch. | for yeur towing? A.—We make a charge for | Spreckels Comp-n{ did—get a ship and tow it | So that without any previous arrangement with e “ma lc “re , and we d keep a regular tug- | this rebate? A —Yes, sir. ¢ ers the whole transaction showing the net | toWing, but the pilot fees we do not get them. | away from the pilots, and threaten the pilots, any shipowners at all we took this money et oks because there is| _Q.—Is not that true? A.—¥Yes, sir, made an | amount that the owners have recelved. Mr. French—Q.—Who pays you that, the d keep on doing t thing until he agrees | back from the pilots and voluntarily passed orporation, %o all of our vouchers | agreement ihat they should return us thal ship or the pilot? our gens olve the ove usiness, and ing of milllens of re, which we could not ed time, but I have here back, and 1f you want | hair pliotage. Q.—Then why did you object, Mr. Samuels, 16 the word compact? A —Well, because 1 do not think that the word—I think the word comp i8 100 strong there. Q.—As 1 understand, then, you explain the benefit or motive that might accrue to the tug- boat company to be that in the cvent that it the shipping master desires the service of the tug further, and such service is given, that Mr. Shortridge—Q.—By whom {s that money paid 10 you in the event you tow a vessel In on which the pilot is? A.—The ship simpiy pays the towage bill to us. Q.—Exactly? to give him a part of it; could they not do A.—How does that affect the State? WOULD FIGHT HARD. Q.—If we lower it 25 per cent, what guar- it over to the shipowners, for the simple rea- son we had done nothing ourselves to justify our keeping it. Q.—And you did from the v P ginning, did you? -~ that A.—Yes, sir. Costs Nothing if It Fails. Any honést person who suffers from Rheumatism fs welcome to this offgr mth wond that o J - - the charge therefor was simply deducted by A.—We receive nothing from | antee have we that another tugboat company | - Q.—You spoke about the towage bein _|. I am a specfalist in Rheumatism® and o Ay g BT Batme of £hs ] a0 ag Then It 18 merely an e e ber | the company. and saves the {rouble of send- | the pilot. \ would not do that same kind of business? A. | quced from something over $400 to §130 Whe h:\,(. treated more cases than any other vhy we will produce that S 3An sgrocin - i the pilate Y @ warfare be- | yg around the globe for the payment of this | Q- —Exactiy? —We would fight a tugboat pretty hard that | did that take place? A.—Well, that took place ysician, 1 think. For 18 years [ made Q—Then, as I understand, there is no regu- | g Ther 1o ane Bllote. rtare - charge? A.—Yes, sir, ok, Bunkers—Q.—Mr. Samuels, T would like | would try to do that soft of thing about In 1384, T think. We commenced cutting ;ou experimgents with different drugs, § towbosi or tugboal assiciation? A.—No, | pesmitied by the Pilor Association i0 ow ihe | . @—18 there any other motive that actuates | 0 a8k ¥ou a_question. Suppose’ they cut the .—Whom do you mean by we, vou or the | rates. testing all known remedies while search- - - {:.:T"t iy Vithout "imtcme‘::n . on lthlr this company other than as iIndicated for the | PIlots down 50 per cent, would not there be | pilots? A-—We. I not think there is any HAD TO CUT RATES. ing the warld for something better. Nine 1S AT, ‘they have Mothing to 4o with | Eeneral benefit of commerce; do you know of | JUst Agnuch danger of competition to reduce | possibility of any /opposition tugboat com- ears ago I found a costly chemicat in 4 P2 L e Mgt < any other motive? A—No, e i S O;Hhelll;lw s ot ;‘r::.nl[.h: fi per ee:l pany com mf' in now, because thére is no ne- ofi—finlw aid it Come about that you made any which, with my previous discov- ADVERTISEMENTS. Q.—Not & bit? A.—Not a thing. Q.—To put,it plain, any selfish motive? A.— 3 A - 001 'eh to do | cessity for it. such a large reduction at that time? Was | erfes, s me a certam cure. e s icn ks e e here is no selfish motive in it; if there was | %°’ A.—No; I will guarantee that far as . —Suppose the conditions be that the | there competition beiween—. A. " 8 4 - T | (S Thes where s the resson Sor them n- | TR R0 O ot OF It our tughoat’company Is concerned thers will | chacges. av rednced Lo that exient: vou ‘mo A. (Interrupting) | | t mean that it can turn bony To keep the skin clean is to wash the execretions from it off ; the skin takes care of itself inside, if not blocked outside. To wash it often and clean, without doing any sort of wviolence to it re- | page that that matfer is coming up and I am | ator ¥ The Chairman—We have got to do one thing turning you anything if they have nothing to do with this towage? A.—That I presume fs a volunteer act of thelr own. When we took hold of the business they were returning that amount, and it was being paid to the ship- ners and we insisted on the same amount g returned to us which we would return the shipowners. —Wherein is there any fear that they have of the tugboat companies by which they pey any amount to you whatever of the epe- cial charges allowed to them by the State? The Chairman—I desire to state again they are going to bring that Capitol bill and they want us there. Mr. Shortridge—I have been notified by a that up, wanted there, and it is an important matter and my people expect me to be there this morning and I would like to be there. The Chairman—Why can we not send word to_them to take ft up at 12 o'clock to-day? Mr. Shortridge—I have been sent for by Sen- or the g"fli-u::‘lnmfil b‘:.thef': and here too. Mr. Shorts wi ve to go. * Mr. French—Why not ask them down there to_pass it on the file until 12 o'clock? Mr. Shortridge—I dislike being absent from this examination. The Chairman—Will you make on the part of the committee, that it be con- tinued until 12 o'clock and that we will be Rk ! that request | PO be no competition against the pilots, because we Wil hink then they have been cut tgo low _Q.—They would have been cut too low? A.—- Yes sir, ‘we think that would be too much of a cut, 50 per cent off of the inward ant outward, but to cut it to the extent that they, now voluntarily give back, that would be fair. The Chairman—Q.—That would be one-half oing_out find Ieaving it the sume coming in? es, sir. .—Could it nof be possible among the dif- ferent towboat companfes down there so as it would be agreeable to them to have that deduction made? A.—The tugboat companies do not care at all what you do about the pilots. As long as the present pllotage fees hold, we will exact that rebate. If you make any reductlon froih that, we drop out of that —Eget no rebate. Mr. Bunkers—Q.—There would be no danger °§.,‘"m’.a".f"fx}1"“‘°“ then, as there was before ¥ s agreement?. A.—No, no danger. The Chairman—Q.—You can only speak for your company? A. ng for our pany, and T think I can safely speak for the other company to that extent, for the reason that the rates for towage now are as as we can afford to make {| and shipowners Q.—Exactly. The agreement then entered into by the Spreckels Company with the pilot | people you affirm was for the general benefit A.—Yes, sir, Q.—No selfish motive other than incidental to them as other persons engaged in that high calling? A—Yes, sir. Q.—The money that is received from tow- age, of course, none of that money is divided with the shipowners; that is a fact? A.—Yes, sir, Q— charge is set Q—That charge 15 se —Is it? A.—Yes, sif. .—The object that I think the committee has in mind, and 1 makKe this as a broad sug- gestion, to which you might reply and give us some information—the object that the commit- tee seoms to have in mind was to find the mo- dve for this original agreement, as you term it, which possibly is a strong enough term, and t—the motive of that agreement; that that agreement, in competition with , yes. A.—Well, as far as we were concerned it was, but our opinion is that if the shipowners did not receive this rebate of pilotage that the pi- hem, that t. | generally throughout the world who lotage fees would be too amounf the towboat | thelr ships here are all satisfied with the e s s ding Tis. tom Bedle by are inter Ing - present condition of affairs as re s towage, of pil ‘which Mr. Bunkers—Q.—But if they were to make full towage prices without this rebate it would longer would ask for the rebate from the pi- lots themselves; you would think the shipping charges were about right: what guarantee would the pilots have or the people interested in commerce that another tugboat would not take the same position that you had originally taken and insist on another rebate and lower them still further? A.—I will give you one reason for that where they would be protected, Ourselves and the other tugboat company there in San Francisco have contracts with nearly all the big shipowners in the world. These contracts run from three to five years We keep t running continuously . %0 that most every vessel that comes Into the port of Francisco is contracted either h our company or the other company. ition tugboat company could suc- start wl bu:llneln is tled up in advance for this length time. These rates charged the wners were arrived oy with the verious a complaint charges of that kind. But all tied up, it would be for an opposition tugboat use the Millen & Gritfith and Perkins & Co. had control of the °3,‘33'. business in the port and to get into the busi ness we had to cut rates all to pleces. ~ Wa spent probably $100,000 to fight that combina. tion of pilots and tugboats—fully that sum a'qmm?v' intain, th ¢ .—You maintain, then, that the fight resulted in the benefit of the -mfl....."""lfi this large extent? A.—TIt decidedly did. The ¢ (;:nlny:m Vas there the same un- derstanding r and the pilots? 15 CH otl s, r. ch—Q.—Who are the people that own the other tugboats—not your c it the other one? h ool The Chairman—The merchants. Mr. Shortridge—Q.—Who are the owners of the other tughoat companies? A.—T) corporation which some shipowners hold stock. The members of it—their office is hers I\;‘ San Francisco. It is mostly composed of sl Q.—Forelgn shipo ? el shipowners as well as local shipowners. Chairman—Q.—Have Balfour, & Co. stock in these? A.—Yes, sir, Bal 3 Saiiavasa el . and a large San Francisco—local people, don Joints into flesh again; but it can cure the disease at any stage, completely and forever. I hake done it gully 100,000 t'me 1 know this 5o well that [ will furish my remedy on trial. Simply write me postal for my book on Rheumatism, and I will mail you an order on your drus- gist for six bottles Dr Shoop's Rheu- matic Cure. Take it for a month at my risk. If it succeeds, the cost is only $5 5, If it fails, T will pay the druggist myeeif —and your mere word shall decide it, I mean that exactly. If vou say the results are not what I cluim, [ dow't ex- pect a penny from you. I have no samples. Any that can effect chronic Kneumatism must be dr! to the verge of danger. | use :‘:e lm':“nltsm'iuandtl:nin‘!olly to take m. ge > dise: out of ‘hi mll‘d a tha o ¥ ly does that even in the most dtflm{:, obstinate cases. It has cured the oldest cases that T ever met. And in all my experience in all my 2000 tests—I never found another remedy that would cure one chronic case in ten. Write me and I will send you the order. harm yom Mu'lrf“ o 16 e frgmy ay, ails, it is free. Address Dr. Shoo . mere sample ? h cannot 4 Wis. State should have done some time ago. Pretty. biE Drices? A rell 1€ the oo Mr. Chairman, T g P, box 630, Racine, > there at that time. ¥ 1) , then, is t00 high? A.—The - 2 » where we are get on this lead which cases. not chronic, are often cured quires a most gentle SO@p, | (HMers Mr. Shortridge lett the room). e e R 1 T bk the e B e AL e ¢ plictage At ez way was uncxpectedly thrown into our midst by | by one or two hottles. At Al druggiats . Mr. Emmons—I suggest that we suspend this | ¢ repate that we back. Beyond that we "' That g the Btate Ges? A—Yes, n , other than it te to soap with no free alkali | Nur i, Giatier down siaire 1e of | 42,10 thiok that the pllotase fees are at all | yr: 4 T e Tuia ba funk har Cahoat own- a considerable. importance. i The Crairman: Q—For Instance the pilotage | ,, @718 not that the State charges? A.—Yes, ors tan b philanthron gl Mr. Ermons “These Witnessce are here from | 1 reduced one-halt, would Tha stop compell | *1%, thoee are the State charges” o M. © to be o con- |l TO LOAN mn 1t. Do and 1 detie o, Sxpeaite matters for | tlon with the pliote? "X —Well, as far as tus- are they now allow R g On city and town " CHiore, 3ir. Bhoririaes retursied). Sorry for them 1f they were cut | @il @ Emmons take 1t up. e i If there is any mares” one-half, nin May be repaid in easy instaliments 4 Mr. Shortridge—I that the Senate . — Wi t the same conditions exist here ld_like to see ft. < Pears, the soap that | i Sorierh toocme tae: o oot | i, ooh e muse cnditons Sein'as| mooine s’ wo CURE, NO PAY. " Hie EmmonsQ.- You ald Something about | fil Modesate interest Addres . it will take up the Capitol constitutional | competition to that extent even if their fees the Legisiature not relieving the situation be- 4 "'a o lears but not excoriates, |smendmen. Were reduced one-half? A Competition be- | Your druggist will refund your money i PAZO 4123 Hayward Bidg . San C M Temmone 0~What waa the lint Gubs- | tweenmhoms U QINTMENT fails to cure Ringworm, Tetter, e Dy e & Sold all over the world. (Quest) H of the tughoat owners and the pilots? A.—an,‘nlmflc&’Hdlllnh,pdl’l.::l‘ 50 cents. & Oent e