The San Francisco Call. Newspaper, July 12, 1900, Page 2

1 THE SAN FRANCISCO CALL, THURSDAY, JULY 12, 1900. , . HARD QUESTIONS FOR LAWYER ROGERS.. fhice. he hrought Mr. Sullivan in the office, or | there Is nobody out here that yougFant to|vided? I gave Dutchy his 300 out of it. Did he know who signed the power of at-|I said I Jidn’t know whether they would do | nied that he ever received any 3 ar east this man, and introc see."”” | And you kept $2007 Yes, sir. torney? Yes, sir. it. He said that was all right, and from a one in any conne O t fvan. and 1 thereupon tc You never got to Evergreen? Well, as I told | And you had $109 out of the Administrator | He knew that this negro, Colthorp, did it? | UD some clerk and the clerk went do: case. % \ g signature was p r. Ruef's, as I stated in 1 | vou yesterday, we got Within about a mile before that, under Judge Troutt's order? Yes, | Yes, sir. | and I handed the order of appoi: “Now," said McEnerne ertif wa | terday: Mr. Ruef was not | of it ss: 3 ik ‘Was he present when he signed thi cr\‘;"‘r:\ q-‘l’n‘-l :«*’ :‘\‘n‘:hrfl s;'nr\\ . e 1 ask you one more q No, sir Craig’s of- | for quite a long while and \ didn't see Evergreen: you dom't know | So that you and Dutchy pulled out on that | of attorney? No, sir. | 5o ite a lo e said there was . e e . Ruet Mr' “Dutchy” was downstairs. And | what Eversre rsinta of.’do You? Well, | even, $300 and $300; is that right? Well, 1 had | =The power of atorney was exectited on. the | lot of Joseph Sullivans. but fina)ly Do you think it is any Ith“u: 1;51 raig were | after that man alone. wild see a church and school house. got $100 from the Court. ist_of March., 18002 Yes, sir. it a aid at the mone: i withe ays v - Your festimony vbsterday that anybody had | " You only got $200 at that time, ef that §$3002 | ~When did Dutchy know that that power of | Mr. Ruef or fo Mr. Driniho: hensible for a lawyer 55 st/ entale g? Well, 1 signed or a told ¥ou that there were people down thére s, sir. | attorney had been executed? Right immedi- | time y“r rr( ;|~v i e o or fee or reward to perm w o ge this X who knew Joseph Sullivan was,untrue? No, | And of course your dgbt of $150 had been | ately. u did not have any information ab: i re he prac- sir: that tajlor told me that He had some |canceled by Rauer? n-d’m. , .| Did vou tell him the first of March? Yes, | maiden name of Sullivan's mot at that | to be robbefl in a court whe : P wd] ==? Xes, friends In Santa Clara County. " = ¢ | /ZheS was afterithe 1th, you thinic? T thifk, | L & he reason fon | UTe, 41 you? No. sir: 1 did no tices than it would be for him to P > 8 " . think you would find thes er at| Now, April 18 was oni wenteen days before ‘hat did you tel m was the reason for nd You did not give a g = en o « e a ir; afterward when I told | you got your final lm.’.h,)is not that true? Yes, | that, Mr. Chretien? Well, I told him—I think | to .the Hibernia, Bank mit it to be robbed upon the paym \ re t he said, “‘That is over to | sir. 2 {in fact that he was the man that suggested | me. PELR RSN BT P k - he is. | When did vou have this row with Dutchy in | it: he said. *“Why don't you get your man to| When dil you get that information? rior | ” o Stedled & 1 Evergreen to hunt for | which he blackmailed you? Why. I never had | sign a power of attorney and just as soon as | to the taking of the ¢ The question struck home, but Henl ? aD you went thers €0 And | E IR wit B e iy Said (e DA | e saer e Solitrai he Te ot o & i you Eive th came to the rescue of the witness. The . didn’t you? Yes, sir, tcld me that he had been offersd a thousazd | T will get his power of attorney.” That was I | and he & S et w3 . You sent a | f attorney down to Bow- | dollars by somebod: | 1 show you a paper being “Order for de- | You gave it to h wrangling and Rogers was saved . . n? Yes, with the letter. To tell the story? To make a sensational | livery of residue of estate to J. J. Rauer,’ on|know the maiden & e = a 1 Did you tell B to write to Evergreen | thing for Mr. Lawrence, he said. and he aAid | John A. Drinkhouse, administrator of the S ould be able to tes e | b e hin relion come In? | Yeasir. - © ot protee o e it th Him, “and_he had to [ tata of Joseph Sullivan. decensed’signod . tion?” Yes. air. Drinkhouse Exonerated. f r ATl <ign this deposition? Yes, and the next | have this money, he wanted It, and that was | Sullivan. Who signed that n" Sullt this man, Dutchy’s Su o S I got was that letter from Mr, Bowden. |all there was to it, and I had to gt it for him; | That was signed by Mr. Colthorp on thin man, ‘with very na Abe Ruef was the last wi i with a rather heavy light the day. z : Deresse i st k R e ettt ;| He made a full explanation of ths s - o . $|m 5 TRy aw; N ¢ | whole connection of the office of John . o | Where did you meet him besides lnl =1 A. Drinkhouse, the then Public Ad- b ! besides at Rus e? n front P 3 : . + ore of Rome Ha ministrator, with the estate of John . & | S Seseste Sullivan, and his explanation was ac- g y A O p i way what he woul cepted as full and complete. Mr. Ruef : 6 & | Y then put in a word for Mr. Kno.x. . * “Nobody suspects Mr. Knox,” said sl ] 1 @ You underst | Mr. Lloyd. h . ~\ 1 * s | Mr. Ruef—Well, do you suspect “ = 4 ® | bim o arat time | MeP That is what I want to know. 4 e < o . > ml;fnr»f'\ to him ke i him before | Is there any suspicion about me in x .- ® on this proposit 1 our mindfi Lee D. i volv 1 . » o ® | What 1 sending up for | y o 10l Lok . Cenhx lmoned', - & . * at did you want | Mr. Lloyd—Why, of course I think . s getting o s that n | 5 1£ in Put 3 n relat & - | you have entirely cleared yourself in . gy o A a sy . £ M Fusi, who s Gut be wold | this matten. $ No. X o x 'y ba patd or counsel any-| Mr. Ruef—Then, of course, I don't e o . 88 (Il he was satisfied that he | on¢ 4o say any more. } : Be, o . ® | The Court—Well, that is sufficient . 2 . ¢+ anything said in that ¢ : “ file a petition then. g ras 4 deposition was taken ony and Judge - %+ hed by his oath? I don't thin d the teatiepe . ” - ever seen the man u the | I woull like ter 3 + taken? His m | and thorough k 8 é took him ¢ k| 1 am grateful t ~ that was the first time I s ‘ ¢ E g gt i Rogers on the Stand. | . 3 = No. 1 ® | The afternoon opened with a call for | at & gross f t B " . Taylor Rogers, He had been . - : > just befare t noon recess, but a4 : Henley n ed that he ? | for the present Rogers’ attorney, a ? No, sir « | would not allow hia client to go on < # |stand until he had had a consultation w : : | So when in the afternoon Rogers wa y | ed ain, the consultation had bee Bt ik + | had and There was no objection. The wit- e 5 | ness pulled up a table, spread it deep with | p sked 117 3 ¢ | his papers and started in to complete his nave been + | testimony in regard to his corresp ndence | is still in the b M search of Sullivan’s heirs. r. in_the c v ® | Me"caid the information _that there plir. Ruet s 4 [might be a Sullivan heir in Soho_square, | Fon 2 " ® | he received from Sam Beckett ‘-‘,'1‘ > B | < then ques sely as to why s & senting | x : b not notity court of wi [ raise a rallen ma N Y e 1tehy abs @ eard from ullivan—th he | T m a m > 3 v gt 4 * & 1e Sullivan in Soho square was dead— | L7F,; ¢ May, this partle h Dutchy’s Share. | and all the answer Rogers would give | 70 "\ oy lliion ™ te Y of & 1 How much a4 v get out of ® | was that he had told the court in his pe- | ‘Sure and in ¢ 3 : L e s the: entate dlstributed W] Sos Sag to thel $ | them. Then it turnea out that all there | Zot SRes oo San ¥ N | was to that effect in the petition was the | wy) hay be infl & 4 | conventiona legation that the Chretien | ¢or this wrorg-doing, bu : % & | heirs were ‘and without right.” and | frem following § a minute after it developed further that | of a - 1" P & ¢ | this petition was never filed in court, al- having et s - & | though copies of it had been served on down for ‘hearing both = ne uef and Chretien. for sett 0 ':(hn!\(‘- of inquiry into why it was that ribut or Monday w No, eir; in foe he suddenly dropped his case for the heirs | op the motlon of | was then pursued, and for half an hour at the property b s - - Rogers was busy explaining that they had | gujjivan was set aside, so that 4 €ln his letters, and rhl»r‘t’;fl”' may remain open until the - 1 to hc»l?p them: and fur- | found, when Y ordin N 2 had asked for a continuance | (W%, Thade ; 8 s sig re granted he vyuldf prl;fi‘;‘l_ On the suggestion of Mr. Lloyd the set- ¢+ heirs up again, and ’h It were | i oment of the account was also put over, & | not_granted it e :| with the s ob, | 1 it ible error, | iih the same object in view in his opinion. A Rk And the | Mr. Lioyd—As Iunderstand it t x E | arguments at the Hibernia Bank and G e et & were sig & | information he had secured there made | r2 g i 3 + | him f=el that his heirs were not the right e course, - . Pzt tter. and the - - Then McEnerney became personal. | e serv Yes, s - Did you_co: to the distribution of the Fenerous!y terest of estate to John Sullivan? he asked. No, T w protession an i b in court | ® Rauer Grew Cautious. x: 1 couldn’t tell you th ¢ | "Inen the statement in_the decree that you | . hera should_sta . : B i n t1 received was four wors js ‘false? 1 dom't kmow. 1 was mot in and the testimony has . ¥ . T court. your Hcnor was absolutely imp ) o " . never got 8 3 4 you receive any money from Rauer on me can attact You e d 1t hat o all T a3 (e day of the bank No, not proceedings here in. th she And . w Rauer b 3 in this connection . n any connection? No. “ourt—I do was M which Rauer | ° :»;.aa_r\“.u ever have any urr;m(’;’r:t. ‘:]a';:e h‘in; and I do red in coin | © -~ about your discontinuance of e and Aty I ROGERS READS HIS REMARKABLE PETITION. ¢ | money? No, sir. e e s . - R s W the four hu | Did you make a practice of getti “”n"; = K ] s @+ sisieisisoeitedei e bes +-9-0-040—+0+54D+-02+0006+00+0+5+0+@ |tion anout the estates of the d from | mit to 1t at et g - ¥ it That was before the decree of distribution | eame time that the check was indorsed and | " F v "Backett given you Infc in this court t : ey e took place that you hac talkc with Dutehy? | at the same time the two recelpts were in- | (B4, NF\ il Fother estates? Y sir. lorsed. a . ; > > 5 . it es not matter w o hunfted ‘and. yi: ket as Dutchy’s Sullivan with him? No, sir. | Who drew this order? I think it was drawn HenleyThat is not material . ! 3 Dutchy was alone. Mr. Sullivan, or this man, | by Mr. Ruef. Mr e > Xk - - -~ 1 owid M |'was never present when any money was pald | They refused to give you any money until A Commission Business. e P o . The - PER: W I pre- | over by me to him; he always had him away Rauer furnished all these papers? ~ Mr T think it fs. T just | 22006 B this s someth Yes 1 E o | " Dutchy told you at that conversation, im isted was upgn Mr. Ruef's office that after. of practice. that he | of the press - o reat advantage t ¥ 5a which h. ad n offered a thousand | noon with Mr.@Rauer and myself and they m Beckett a com. nk has . - = c and ac- | doliars his story. p»‘w ia h'{ M[r l;‘n"kr-d and filled over the amount of mon o kind of inYormation ¥ i s 3 rp was | Lawrence—you mean Mr. Lawrence, of the | that was to he given and that was when the | ™is® ess—Well, if T did, it would be none erly’s Answer. . What wae ye in using this | Examiner, do you not? I presume so; he just | thing was settled The Wikneow =17t ote metiie ~ Weatherly's A . . for all these signatures? Well, | said L nee Did you know that that three hundred dollars | Of ¥our basinrad By 5 imignt be some of | Dr. Weatherly feels aggr = tell you: I think L-was cras w us_wha ween vou | was to go to Hansted himseif? Did he tell you | MF: B art, Mr. Rogers. This | name should have been used by and Dut well A letter from | how much he was paying this man who was o g is mome of my business, but | Chretien in a manner Whi " simflarity of signature, | his landlady tnat e y 'a board bil} | impersonating Sullivan? No, sir. rocseding. 18 none of I B the peobls | Section upon It Dr. Weat . 27 No: I think I was erazy: T have | and he had to do this, and he had to do thaf, | Did you discover {t? He simply said that B e of California and the Judge of | his connection with the s = L it [and 3. "Suilivan hmd ‘to have some money, he | he’had to divids with him. Whether he did Bt o toelf. 1 don't know | oy ‘ourely casual and perfe hink the B e 01y | or et I.don’t know. Beckett is giving Mr. Rogers infor- | o mee Chretien on the stre Dutchy Tried Blackmail, 1id you first have a talk with Dutchy effect t think t f this disposition. Wel ve the money; that was clse did you at’ (hat was subsequent 10 - ‘ i : Loy giden The said Sullivan Was Coached. Tation before the ma is cold. ‘T think we are | wvqq nsked If he knew any one i} Beftré you took the deposition fn Ruer's of- | entitled: to know it b | nence in London. He gave th o him? How did e ) the prob yroceedings in thid court essrs. Bennett and Walker and to him? How dld he | fice aid you go over the facts of the case with | Of the pr Palifornia ought to be ir Messr jen wrote to them not Sullivan at ou? Well_ I told him why nof wait | this Dutehy's Suilivar % sir. he only | in the courts of i < o - | to assist Chr B e Ruef | till the thing came. up, and M satd | goio o Y S N as about nfs mether.” | into. We ought to know how these things ar- | {5 1S hig he had absolutely notht . el M < yhe nd had been to Bt L i | - Dtois Shy JJeposition_was taken you nad |4OKE 1o well, you have got a bigger job | With the odiot \fTair : = nd e had ot | e o O et (o) | Been. Joserh . Tobin at the Hibernia | Mr. MW than 1 think you want. by ¥ to h % en he simply black. < all darned nonsense, that Rogers and Ruef | B4 s taoi b M McEgerney— Well, I know. but with your | 2 7 to haye 855" nd hen he simply black | o 3 o T o T raia ey |y WMt passed Betmeen'Vou vt e Tobine | ME MEERES 2 iR theousn with . | “JAKE” RAUER TAKES PART L 55 it BaCs st < & not true; that he could go and see Mr. |1 5 o 9 il summer not being over. St I have got you. and you have got to go | %2 t “true. Shal _hb -could a0 A0 estate.”” 1 showed hi watharity, my ap- | the E ere is a little too much of a fe was | vly blac 1 ut of it, that Is all. T o e el | of the m r of ased and he sald harangue by > be S baing blackmailed, and had to go = witness ought not to be subj ' . That.Letter to 34 Soho. was it that he sald he had to nave T LErape el 1o B0 |ty bt azainet the rulee. T can't doit that this winee o ants to, can walk His Nephew, Himself and Three A : A9 u geve yesterday th 3 hen he got it from 2} e R e e S e say? e eald: | tor anybody.”” I rald: “L am very anxio Witness, '} e reason Why he is ¢ : : Suliiva R e ¢ 1t from Mr. Ruef and he weulln't | vou KNOW. vou have got those powers of at | ghs“out, and the estate s hoing 6 ovirh: N, SR SHE. SEE cason ] Others Arrested for Disturbing iare was untrue? N A ol e Fkiaiie. | I8 0lnE: fo kRt Khe ns about e havip & | Well. O he anid; - Rl 1n all righe T - Jgl0ing . the Peace. womet ) s - vour first money from Rauer be- | man’ impersonating him." - And then T saw the was for application for letters ' S Court—And that Is why T believe that | ., = a ® R -~ e | Wbt JeORMLIVH Joun talant Atte: lipow: that- 1 %eax 1o . ministration, or something.” AT ot il mow answer the question. The S Wiktass Michaalaiss pe - v » he qame in he did taken z £ the estate is ahout to be cle M& Rogers will Bow A of busi. | Graef: Wi n Michaelson, propri yous got was tbb, The Power of Attorney. S10041. ‘within ‘& month’ 6F tw s b oty Bty rma "8 | the Saratoga Stables at Larkin and Gear t assignment in the es before that ti that you had “If the account closed downstai Ho ey —Any testimoi that this wit- | ctreets; John Keane, who claims is a eoge | 1 t ¥ n him about being in the fix of havs no money oe 18 no.objesty e etees 11 this investigation 1s pursly voln- | syjesman. and Richard Garrit 3 2 nexer sent ame of hat $300 e power of attorney? it. You can o right downstairs and ask.” | ness €USE D (8T T ompulsory process that can | employe f Rauer, engaged in a brawl | at n St e, T T s ;- tarTh any witness in this matter. Mr. Rogers | tvening in Michaelson's stable is not here to be subjected to disrespectful allu- } GECaier wnd charged with disturbing the ash fer 1o give to Jyhn Sul- @ | sion or any manner of alsrespect. and 1 ciatm | DN er” Michaelson put up % 0 show you that he was dhe ptatentiin 8 I St Seiton in Pail for each member of the party - | I Mr. Ruef b - e Rauer and Graef drove into Michael- e it to Dutchy, and he S h it b swered. Mr. Beckett is one of my empioyes. P R ~ ge. < The. Court—Mr. Rogers will be exonerated [ SON'S stable to put up their hors s n th it with John Sullivan? b erated | They were coming out Garrity made an | ¢ criticism on the part of Mr. Backett N 2. L. "The Unaeretant P o ybody else In connection with an attempt | Sulting remark to Rauer. Graef jumy e e ooy oy A @ | o throw light on the proceedings In tiis qe- [ at Garrity and then Keane tock 4 Dutchy to do? Dutchy | @ D e *s nephew was getting the worst of t or any other department. I desire to | Rauer’s @ fellow so that he would not | | DT 'all the light I can of Mr. Roers concern- | it when Rauer joined in. Rauer struck he would have him whenever R o7 . it Keane on the jaw and knocked him sens ing these matters, and there is ar y h - u - e & % # % . v v such inducements to anybody I|less. At this moment Michaelson appear- - Tt e S knewe of the exitence o the WOULD like to say after this very serious and thorough investigation that I am grateful to the reald ke to know It, In the interest of public g.{qr:andAjn:;ed the Raver forces. Garrity . . wha Dutchy say ould do fo i<l g 7 g ; 3 Justice. flea. At the police station Garrity turnec got that back 1 hunted ug for a third of what you got? Why, he x o ¢ G 2 y < Well, it your Honor please, my be locked up Wit got that 1 | e s T distinguished aud able attorneys who have assisted the Court in producing the evidence bearing e Al o g o T & | T S e i it %0 : Eipm ex and . . 5 - . 01 0] to mo into. » S e 5 Dt ; £ you know an was your next comversation with < - upon the matters in controversy. This evidence has disclosed the glaring fact that a gross fraud P Mcknerney—Do you decline to answer, | CHATES agalnst the WA o ed T 0 8o then he &a en. w i when he br E ¥ 3 ;. ; & Mr. Rogers? 1 hat Rauer used a hammer, ob- Ox A3 gt )ivan come alone? He brought Suliivan fn hacl 4 this C. 7 : b ) Mr. Rogers—I decline to answer. My busi- | Claimed t - - - . ut Offiorsl. wnd B T bl s 5 has been perpetrated upon this Court. W hil I am anxiously on my guard against an form a near-by blacksmith shop. RS P e i et st s Wi, Y on wiy guard 0gaist ANy . Lo oudliss i cie o A ciicorsla o | alned 1, 525l thie itumeon attempted wrongdoing and try to avoid mistakes, it seems that in connection with this estate an at- torney at lazv, an appointee of this Court, has conspired <with others in an effort to obtain wrongful possession of the property of this estate. Fortunately, however, thanks to the daily press and to Mr. Ruef, attorney for the Public Administrator, whose care and caution have been admirable and i me to him. And then he handed me is case I am ready to tell, but I do not pro- T D el ey hove been done i Tna%at | OLD STREET-CAR BARNS P MeEnernes 1 {hink that the time is ripe ARE DESTROYED BY FIRE ice In this department and i department nine and represent foreign heirs | 2 ; v i thetr employment through the speed ang | Ancient Buildings on Brannan Street, he was Bullivan then? I t he was at that time. e Dutehy that ietter for? this letter he said, er.”” 8o 1 gave it tn ur letters, and he wanted ®ive them e &t wise, the estaie is still in the hands of the Public Administralor, in the custody of the laz. e ey s ot e raa Near Seventh, Are Almost a upon an agreement, express or implied, for a Total Loss. While I am always ready to help raise a fallen man and give him a helping hand where no harm comes to others thereby, I find that I made a mistake in appointing, a year ago last May, the pagticular attorney at laze, foln M. Chretien, to act in the interest of the Court and in that of justice. It is an-appointment which I shall regret more than words can cxpress for the rest of my life. Pun- ishment =il have to be inflicted, not only as a penalty for this wrongdoing, but also to deter others from following such an example. This decree of distribution and the order seitling the final ac- count having been set aside, I will at this time set down for hearing both the application for settle- Aivision of the compensation . p e “Ruef— Reoresenting the public official re. | The 0ld car barns on Brazzs ferred to, we Invite the inquiry: we ask that | near Seventh, were practical the witness answer the question. We state | early this morning by a fire that no such agreement was ever made, and | which is at present unknown. As soon as cannot he proven to have been made, with our | tne blaze was discovered an alarm was oWl e o enlihtente s ors, Wil se¢ | turped in from box 152 The Fire Depart- His'way clear to enlightening 'the court u e Jald 4o but little, howeves. Dayerd ol L b absolutely no | \otecting adjoining property from the owledge of any such agreement. |} e Caart—What say vyoa. Mr. Rogers? Aro | lames and the buildings are pragtically a you willing to give the court assistance, con- | total loss. Sidering what the matter now under investi. | The old caf barns were large frame gation is? structures, which for some time past had Mr. Rogers—I am perfectly willing to assist | been occupied by junkmen and scaven- with this man what 3 three? Why uld like t How He Me t Dutchy. ] n for a minute. said and Dutchy said, “Well. 1 " S0 we walked do 3 t to the stairs he said. “Well, 1 will walt 1 said “1 want you to come @ 00 6 0 906090060 at the interview at which vou saw Ruef's -9 9000 0006000000 knowing g g justice. but T deny the right of this court to | gers. It is supposed that a ecigar st Putohy. . i3 what took place thing: 1 simply i Syapo s bing Into my private business. T know | tast among the Inflammable s e eCs father in Erench wher Ar. Ruet ment of the final account and for distribution for Monday week. |5 ",’,%,:"‘,“,;‘r,m,, h"’,‘;,fi anawer any Gues. | Coronmins 10% the destrucdon ot e 13 » & said, pec P s 3 t concerns thi tt ' s Nipat L g Al L ey I do not want to impese any further service upon counsel. . The facts have been developed, it P b R Rt B M Tt [N P i, et e | ild be able toestand cross-examination . ~ ore is entii s chitisie R 3 g S1E ni : = Mr. Rogers finally answered: 5 Rincon Parlor Installs. ~ e sl 1 ik T | 28 being the brother of Joseph Sullivan? No, and if the Court here is ci 1{:1( d to criticism, however harsh, Ihe»(,'m.lrlt will :uh'fxt to it at all times. I Not waiving any right now, because | con- | Apout four hundred ladies and gentls- Bt ot Savan T i | Dutchy Always Wanted Money. shall never impugn the motives of any newspaper when they criticize the actions of the Judge here T atalde of matturs toncerning: (i j4es” | men met in the banquet hall of the Na- =aid 1 said When did you next see either Dutehy or Sul- it aa 5 i3 sh il . 2 tigation, I think that is the only matter which | tive Sons’ building last night to witness Yo | ST 1 e them ety el ek or anybody else in this court. I am satisfied that they will endeavor to do justice, and if they wrong has ever come to me from Mr. Beckett In any | the installation of the officers of Rin- shape, as I now recall it, and that came in a | con Parlor by Deputy Grand President Wynn, assisted by L. F. Sericano nd marshal. The new officers ¥ wast to k Dutchy always wanted some money of this thing When 4id e first tell you_that. this man's Mat you are peculiar way that 1 do not care to go into. It | W. was honorable on his part, and nothing wrons | as anybody they wwill do so inadvertently. I will always try to do my duty, my public duty, as'I see have to = address would be Evergreen? Just betbre 1 ¢ 3 , Py | Al . ers are: Ae ssid, What was_ your object In driving out to and understand-it, and endcavor to prevent fraud being perpetrated upon the Court. The action = e sdent: J. W. Kaerts, McEnerney then turned to the trip to| pr A. J. Rocca | the Hibernia Bank that Rogers said he | and John Hannan. vice presidents; J made with Rauer, but he got but little | Mannion, marshai: L. K. Hagenkamp. re- satisfaction from it. Rogers said he¢ went | cording. and Willlam Foley, financial sec. there and came back again: that he saw ’ retary: Thomas H. Vivian. treasurer: J Evergreen? Well, when 1 started out 1 sup- po that there might he some tru in his being there, and when I went cut with Charley F emus: when I went out with him we 3 stopped at one or two roadhouses on the way e o ¢ you He| and had a drink or two and drove along the ns me for 82, T r mber that, and I gave | road. and after we had driven guite a way we Biz 32 on that occasion. A Gay or twe sfter | turned around and came back. He said, “'Oh. of the press in this matter is something that I think has been of great advantage to the community. —Judge Troutt's words as he closcd the investigation. -........—..—-.-—H.....QH%’—H—.—.—.—.—.— a clerk named Ryan, but when Ryan was | McNamara, inside. and J. Welch, outsida / asked to stand up !n the courtroom Rog- | sentinel: Hen Raccoulllat and W. A ers could not identify him. Rogers de- Peake, trustees. e 0006 0600 0 o 9006 0 0