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4 FRANCISCO CALL, FRIDAY, JANUARY 20, 1899 that in the interest of candidates for | Q. Do you ltnow from what source it| Q. But, when being asked whether or|tleman in this State who had a friend | very prominent in this State, and I do to vote for D. M. Burns; dent look every one in the Senator’s room United _States Senator, That was tne | reason I did not go directly to Mr. Grant’s headquarters to see Mr. Green. And the time 1 speak of, when I met Mr. Green in | the corridors of the Capitol building, w the first time I bad met him after this interview with The Call repor then told him what the rumor w He de- | nled most emphatically to me that he ever made such statement at all, or thing that approached it in chafac- ter. Now, gentlemen of the committee, 1 request of you the ‘most searching ex- amination—not only into what I know and sa may about the matter, but ‘anything you learn concerning the matter, and I your hands for examination. con—Mr. Cosper I am a friend nd appear here for Mr. Grant, I would ke to ask just one question. You say you met Mr."Green out in the hall here? A. Ye nd Mr. Green denied to you that he \Ln’llla\ed such a report? . Yes, Q. I did not quite understand it. A. I thought I had so stafed. I think you did, but m directed to something e attention at the was time. that he had not. convinced me anner was that of m;hfi:nminn and am one who eves that ts wo through the I believed what he matter without the expectation that any- thing more would be said about it, but without any ssure you,1f anybody wants to sa 1 about it Mr. Bu vou had any conver- sation with M. Burns since you came to Sacramento? A. Yes Q. What was the nature of that conver- Ed:\‘ ’I) was in Mr. Burn headquarters soon atter I came re, as 1 was in eadquarters of every candidate that I asked Mr. ere for the office I do not know Burnett, about ny talks Wwith so eatedly in Mr. s repeatedly in and 1 was re- headquarters, received thelr matter. any of them. Barnes' peatedl E nd eatment Jurns offer you any induce- at any time or ask you to support ked me to support aid that he never any inducement. of Mr. Burns' friends offer Q. Did any you any inducement or request you to sup- vort Mr. Burns? 3 A.1 do not know who Mr. Burns friends are. 1 will make that clear by saying that nobody had offered me a inducements—Mr. Burns' friends or any other candidate’s fri —any other in- 1ds-— ducements than this: That they have held out to me the argument: this man and that should be e United States Senate. Of course, Mr. Burns' friends came and talked to me, wing me why he ought to be ected. Mr. Burns' friends—Mr. Booth d Mr. Reichert and Mr. Green did that, Hamiiton, I think his name is, and Mr ) the part of Mr.' Burns. 1 do not sup- » you mean that kind of inducement, ch—only such inducements as pre- ¢ themselves to a man's reason and dgment, Q. 1 had reference to patronage or finan- 1 stance. answer has already covered that, lick—Mr. Cosper, believing that you want to give an unqualified denial it seems to me that there is one phase of it you have not touched, and that is this: Ye v that no candidate has given you or inducement to support him? »w, in view of the developments so ake it in another way—has any can- without regard to inducement or tion whatever, given you 3 offer of patronage? Not any whatever. Did any candidate for United States \ator put any money in your legisla- my personal knowledge. I to the committee that I had ter my election that money was the district from which Mr. comes and that that money was expended in_the interest of the candidate 1 to Mr. Boone and the candidate Senate opposed to, Senator H. L. that probably some of that expended in my interest, in- portion of my district’ lies re County; but personally I have no knowledge of that matter. Mr. Burnett—Did you receive any com- munication during the campaign from Mr. Green_or Mr. Brown? A. None whateve - Mr, A. None whatever. Green, Mr. Brown, nor Mr. Kelly. I do not know Mr. Kelly. Q. Well, have you ‘had any conversa- tion in regard to United States Senator with Mr. G ince coming here? Kelly I did not know Mr. the nature of the conver- he nature of the conversations was Iways as to Mr. Grant's qualifications, e claims that he had upon the peo- ple for the office; never in the nature of transaction or patronage way whatever. y time give you any on why he believed Mr. Grant would e elected? \ A. Would be elected? Q. Yes, and the reason why. A. I think he has said to me that, in his judgment, Mr. Grant would finally win out, but I do not now remember that in any conversation he analyzed the reasons for that judgment and laid them before me. Q. Did he at any time submit to you a list written or give you a list verbally of Tepresentatives that would vote for Mr. Grant, or that he expected would vote for Mr. Grant? A. He had on a little slip of paper at one time a list of men whom he had would support Mr. Grant. But when I came here —that was early in my history in Sacra- mento—and when I came here the only legislators with whom I was acquainted were W. P. Boone of Tulare County, H. L. Pace, the Senator from our own town, and I could not remember Mr. Burnett the names of those people. I presume, i they were handed to me now—the same list—I would know them well enough to remember_them. Q. You do not remember the name of a single man on the list, do you? A, Wait until I can think a moment. I reaily do not think I can recall a solitary T was not familiar with the names elected to this_Legislature at that time. Mr, Mellick—Was that a printed list? A. No, sir. It was a lead pencil list. Q. Did it pretend_to be the signatures of the members? Was it clmmed to be the signatures of legislators? A. T think about a half dozen names or thereabouts purported to be signatures of legislators. Q. And was it claimed that they had signed an agreement to support Mr. Grant? A. I think so. My memory of it is this That the head of that list was that “We hereby pledge ourselves to vote for U. S. Grant Jr. for United States Senator so long as_we shall have a chance for elec- tion.” I may be off on that. That is as near as I can remember. Mr. La Baree—How many names attached to that list? i i A. Well, I did not count them, Mr. La Baree. My own judgment is that there were about a dozen. I had the impres- sfon—but how I got it I cannot tell—that that was only a portion of a complete Hst; and I think probably I got that im- ression from the statement made to me y Mr. Green at the same time that there were twenty-five or more who stood pledged to vote for Mr. Grant; but I am not sure that he said that they stood pledged In writing to vote for Mr. Grant. Mr. Burnett-DId he give you any rea son why he believed that those parties would support Grant? A. That they were pledged. Q. %(mply that? 5 A. Yes, Mellick—DId he tell you why they Mr. sig)ed a written paper of that kind? . He did not. You must_remember, gentlemen, that at that time I was look- ing over the entire ground in order to make up my judgment as to what m duties were toward my constituents wit reference to the person for whom I should vote for United States Senator. I was not committing myself to any candidate, nor to his friends, and was, therefore, not taken into very much confidence. Mr. Burnett—Now, you,said that .you - had received information that a certain amount of money was put down into Mr. Boone's district—$1500. Where did you get that information? A. 1 did not so state, Mr. Burnett. Q. What was your statement? A. As I remember it I heard after I came here that money had been sent into Mr. Boone's district, Q. How did you hear that? A.1 was trylng to recall that to my mind. I think that it was by intimation 4 in the promotion of a political campaign came? ‘A. I was trying to recall that, too. It was several &:iys ago and my mind has been full of very many things since that time. My imjpwession is—and it is only an impression—that either Assemblyman Dale or J. W. Viley, attorney of Bakers- field, who was \ere for some time, sald to me, “Do you know that our people’— they were friendly to Grant—'assisted in your fight?” Now, 1 cannot tell you, gentlemen, that t.%ose were the men, be- cause there were numerous Grant men talking to me, all the time insisting that it was my duty te vote for Mr. Grant, because I was the only man in the Sev- enth Congressional istrict that was | standipg out against him; and which one of those numerous mien that were insist- ent on that point it would be im- possible ‘at this juncture for mé to tell you. Q. One reason that they gave why you should vote for Grant was because Grant's money had gone into your dis- trict and assisted in your election? A. That was the qu ion exactly. “Do you Know that our people assisted you in our fight?” My answer to that was that “if they did it was withput any consulta- tion with me, and I don't feel myself under any moral obligation to vote for Mr. Grant, therefore. I like to be con- sulted by neople that desire to assist me in my fights.”” Ana that was my uniform answer whenever a question of that kind was raised. Mr. Bacon—I want to ask the chairman if I could be permitted to cross-examine Mr. Cosper with reference to his state- | ments about Grant's campaign? Mr. Mellick—So far ast 1 am concerned, if he is willing. The witne entlemen, Grant and desire tor say this further, this junecture that Mr. Grant's friends at none of Mr. have asked me to vote for him in consid- eration of any assistance that they have | given me. That is fair to Mr. Grant. If| they insisted they did not use that as an inducement to me further' than what have stated to vou from these outside men, and I do not know a_thing about their authority to speak for Mr. Grant or Mr. Green. It was a matter so foreign to my liking that 1 did not care to pursue the thing and did not pursue it. Mr. Bacon—May I ask you some Qques- tions, now, Mr. Cosper? A. Certainly. Q. Mr. Cosper, I believe in your direct examination or in your direct statements prior to any mention of Mr. Grant, you said that no candidate and no friend of any candidate had ever made any offer to vou of anything, of any consideration, either of patronage, money or influence, to secure your vote for any man for United States Senator? A. I think it amounts to that. Q. And_that nobody had solicited your vote for United States Senator, giving as a reason for it anything improper? A. I do not know that I said that, but I think that is true. Q. You have also said just now that you did not know whether or not these people that had talked to you about money having been é!ut in_Mr, Boone's campaign were friends of Mr. Grant or not? A. I do not know that I said that. Q. Boone's district? A. But I knew they Mr. Grant's eandidacy; but I said that I did not know that they had any author- ity to speak for Mr. Grant or Mr. Green in the matter. Q. And you do not remember who it was? A. Not with definiteness, no, sir. I have given you my best impressions, or given the committee, rather. ; Q. Do you enjoy being examined in an inquiry of this kind, Mr. Cosper? A. Oh, Mr, Bacon, I am apt to take the world as it comes, and I will take this with the rest of {t. It is not particularly unpleasant to_me. Q. 1t is not? A Q. You enjoy it, then? A. Well, I do not know why you should assume It. Q. Well, you say it is not unpleasant. Mr. Mellick—I do mfot think that proper. A. Tt is a matter of indifference; solely a matter of indifference. Mr. Mellick—That is hardly a proper question. The witness—You ought to know, Mr. Bacon, that I did not invite it nor did I avold it. Mr. Bacon—Certainly; I understand that. Now, Mr. Cosper, usually to the ordinary man it is a very unpleasant thing, is it not? A. 1 am not sure what you would con- sider an ordinary man. Q. A man with keen sensibilities, with respect to his name and standing in the community in which he lives. A. I think there are a great many or- dinary men who would not be so keenly sensitive. Q. You think there are? A. Yes, sir. Q. Then that is probably the reason that you connected the name of some Assem- blyman with a rumor of having made a statement and you cannot remember whether he was the fellow that made it or not? A. I am not responsible for your pre- sumptions, Mr. Bacon. Q. Well, T am just trying to get at your reason for making that statement, A. Mr. Bacon, I am under oath. I am asked to give these things, and it Is my duty to glve them as nearly as I can. I can- not say positively, and so clearly indicated it to this committee that I could not say ositively, that either of the gentlemen I Ra\'e named was the gentleman who made that statement to me. You ought by this time to_have understood that fact. Q. I do understand that, sir. I under- stand that you made that statement. A.I would not voluntarily bring the name of any man into a transaction of this kind, but I cannot avoid my responsi- bility under oath. I would not if I could. Q. Now, then, you say that no one con- nected with Mr. Grant has ever made any improper proposal to you with respect to your_vote? A. I say that not only of that individual but of all individuals. Q. Then why did you detall this state- ment that you had just made here, that you were solicited to vote for Mr. Grant because Mr. Grant's money had possibly helped to elect you? A. T did not so detail nor so state. Q. Did you not say that somebody had were friendly to is not you knew of any proposal of such kind being made, you sald you knew of none whatever, and being asked to spe- cify you stated this one. A. I cannot trust your memory, Mr. Bacon. Q. Well, is that the fact? A. 1 do not understand it. I shall have to refer you to the stenographers’ notes on_those ‘things. Q. Well, the stenographers’ notes would not govern this question as to whether or not that is a fact, Mr. Cosper. A. State the proposition again, then. (The reporter read the question) I do not think that I did that. Q. You did not mention the name of an Assemblyman? A. Not'in that connection; no, sir. That is_a misconstruction of the examination. Mr. Bacon—That is all. Mr. Burnett asked that a subpena be issued for M. H. de Young, and also that a subpena be issued for J. D. Spreckels and W. F. Herrin. After a lengthy discussion it was finally deter- mined to issues subpenas for those gen- tlemen, but at the request of Mr. Mellick the matter was deferred until to-mor- row morning. Mr. Mellick called the attention of the committee to an article contained in the Los Angeles Times, signed by C, E. Washburn, containing a charge that a legislator had been offered $3000 to make Bulla his second choice, but spurned the offer, and asked that a sub- pena be issued for C. E. Washburn to appear before the committee and tes- tify. A motion was made to that effect, seconded and carried. Mr. Bacon—Mr. Chairman and gentle- men, you will remember that when this investigation commenced I made some Jittle objection to the investigation taking as broad a scope as it has taken. In my judgment the investigation should at this time—or at that time my judgment was that the investigation should be llmited to the incident that prompted it, namely, the investigation of the charge against Mr. Howard Wright. This committee overruled those objections and concluded to go into this thing. A great many times during the course, of this in- vestigation it has been remarked by the chairman and various mem- bers of this committee that they were desirous of securing suggestions from anybody that would lead to knowl- edge of Improper influences having been brought to bear upon members of the Legislature with respect to their Senato- rial votes, and, in fact, that question has been asked of nearly every witness for the last two or three days. Now I have not been on the witness stand, but I have heard these questions. 1 have been ill— in fact almost too'ill to be present a part of the time I have been here, but I have begun to make some investigations my- self, and, with your permission, would like to have you subpena some witnesses. gentlemen, I desire to say to start with. I don't know when you will adjourn t and I do not know who the first witness | will be, but it seems to me, gentlemen, that you are posing before this State in a position that will soon make this in- vestigation a very peculiar affair, in this: That it has apparently been directed against one man. This afternoon a news- paper man is put upon the stand, and I do not think that the trend of the testi- mony up to the time that Mr. Cosper was put upon the stand can be misunderstood | or misconstrued by anybody that heard it. Mr. Brown was put upon the stand practically to serve notice—or his testi- mony did practically serve notice—that the libel suit between The Call and the Speaker of the House had probably been compromised and settled. Mr. Burnett—Now, Mr. Chairman, I am opposed to this Kind of argument, and trust if he has any suggestions as to any evidence or any witnesses that might be likely to throw any light upon this situa- tion, T am perfectly willing, so far as I am concerned, to take it. | Mr. Bacon—I will stop that, then, I\lr.‘ Anderson. The Speaker pro tem. of the | House was in here vesterday and was ex- amined, not at great length, and 1 asked | to be excused from cross-examining him on account of my ill health and that I might be allowed to recall him. I would like to have Mr. Anderson recalled, for the reason that Mr. Anderson detailed a conversation that was had between him- self and Mr. Benjamin, and upon that conversation based a prejudice against Mr. Grant. The testimony of Mr. Benja- min_as to what that conversation was is different from that given by Mr. Anderson. I want to inquire of Mr. An- derson how—with that in his mind against Mr. Grant, one of the most prominent can- | didates for the United States Senate in this race—he would presume to appoint a committee to hear and investigate charges of corruption with respect to any man who was a candidate for the United States Senate? I want to say this, fur- ther: That I would object at this time— I think it is unseemly for this committee to put Mr. D. M. Burns or Mr. U. . Grant or any other Senatorial candidate upon_the witness stand, for the reason that T do not remember of an instance in the testimony of any of the witnesses in which a direct charge has been made agalnst any of those gentlemen that they had knowledge of the improper use of money, influence or anything else, with respect to the vote of a single Assembly- man in_ this House. So, why should you lower the character of your investigation —why should you attempt to lower the standing of the men who are candidates for United States Senator, one or two of whom seem to have very good chances for election here, by calling them upon the stand to refute charges that are not made? On that account I object at this time to the introduction of the testimony or to putting Mr. Grant or Mr. Burns or any other Senatorial candidate upon the witness stand. Now, I heard another rumor to- day that I would like to investigate. I have heard there was a certain gen- that was in the House, and that that friend made a proposition, or made a statement to another gentleman, that this friend of his in the Legislature had been offered $6000 for his vote for a certain gentleman who was a candidate for the United States Sen- ate, that he did not want to vote for that man, but, should he vote for anybody else, he thought he was en- titled to receive the same amount as he would receive should he vote for that other man. I desire a subpena for Mr. C. G. Lamberson. Mr. Lamberson said, as I under- stand it—I may be misinformed. I do not know anything about it myself, personally. It is just like a lot of other things that have been floating around here; but this statement was made to me in this way: That Mr. Lamberson said that this friend had been offered $6000 to vote for a can- didate for the United States Senate. Mr. Burnett—Where is Mr. Lamberson? Mr. Bacon—I think he is in Visalia, The chairman—He is an attorney re- siding at Visalia. Mr. Mellick—Some man here told you that, you say? Mr. Bacon—I heard this on the street several days ago, and I could not tell you who told me. The Chairman—Who is that friend that you referred to? Mr. Bacon—That friend was Cos- per, and I desire Mr. Lamberson sent for. Mr. Liellick—To prove what? Mr. Bacon—To deny or prove the truth of the rumnor that Mr. Cosper said to Mr. Lamberson: “I have been offered $6000 for my vote for a Sena- torial candidate. I do not want to vote for that man, but if you believe some other Senatorial candidate will pay as much I would rather vote for somebody else; but if I do I ought to receive the same amount of money as I would get if I were voting for this other man.” Mr. Burnett—How much foundation is there for that rumor? What foundation is_there to 1t? Mr. Bacon—I was told some time ago that there was a gentleman in this town —now I cannot give the names at all; I do not remember .2 single one of these names—but I was told that a_gentleman telephoned from this town to Visalia, very recently, to Mr. Lamberson and asked him if that statement was true and he said it wa Mr. Burnett—Do you know who it was that telephoned? Mr. Bacon—No, sir, I do not. I do not remember any of those things, because just as these gentlemen have testified to- day, they %0 in one ear and out the other, so far as the names are concerned. I talk to a hundred men every day about this Senatorial situation. Mr. Burnett—Some one told you that some one had telephoned from here down there? a}n gaconRYeys. slé', Mr. Burnett—You do not recolls it was that told you? octiwho Mr. Bacon—No, sir, I do not; but I know it made a very vivid impression on my mind. Mr. Burnett—Did you know the man or w;)xds heBn !"K.f.fier? 5 r. Bacon—The man that tol ks I think I did; yes, sir. 1 must hage.. O Mr.. Burnett—You have forgotten, have you Mr. Bacon—Well, T have not forgott: him. I am just exactly in the sames P tion as these other witnesses who have tefllflfle}g‘ r. Burnett—Why not tell us who it is? Mr. Bacon—Well, I say I cannot. I told you in the start that I could not. Mr. Burnett—Well, I would favor issu- ing a subpena for Mr. Lamberson, in- asmuch as his name has been connected wl\tlh tv;’a[) flr i(hree matters. Mr. ellick—I do_not_see any use in sendlnfi for him. Mr. Bacon starts out with the proposition that there is no use of subpenaing Colonel Burns, Mr. Grant and different ones; and_ here 1s a man way down in Tulare County that has heard something, or has said that per- haps Mr. Cosper was offered this money by one of these principals. Why not get the principals here? Mr. Bacon—Now, Mr. Mellick, the first day of the committee, or the first session of the committee, I made that same sug- gestion, and you gentlemen overruled me. Mr. Burnett—I move you, Mr. Chair- man, that a subpena be issued for Mr. Lamberson of Visalla. Mr. Sanford—In view of the fact ‘that the $1500 transaction has been referred to in reference to Mr. Lamberson, I think that it is only proper that we should is- sue a subpena. Mr. Bacon—About the $1500—I do not know anything about {t. I never heard of it until I heard of it to-day. All I am speaking about is that matter I spoke about a moment sfo. I will say this: That mflundeutan ing of the statement is that Mr. berson sald that Mr. Cos- er had been offered $6000 to vote for Mr. urns; that he did not want to vote for Mr. Burns, I do not want to use the names of these gentlemen. Mr. Burns, so far as I know, possibly i{s an honorable gentleman. He is a gentleman that is said to you that you probably ought to vote for Mr. Grant because you were under obligations possibly to vote for Mr, Grant. A. 1 did not and the record does not so show. Q. What aoes it show in respect to that? A. 1 shall have to ask for the written record to tell you exactly, but I know that that was not the truth—the form of the statement. Q. Now, with rearect to Mr. Wiley, if it was Mr. Wiley- do not know who it was, but if it was Mr. Wiley—will you lease state to this committee what Mr. Wiley said to you? A. I have stated it as near as I can re- member it, and my best memory of my former statement is this, and of what he sald is this, if he be the man, and I do not say that he was: Upon urging me to vote for Mr. Grant because I was the only man in the Seventh Congressional District in this Legislature that was standing out against Mr. Grant he said, “Don't you know,” I think was his lan- uage, “that our people-assisted in your ght?’ 1 think that is the way I stated it, and I think that is the way it was stat- to me by this individual, whoever he may be. Q. Would Fou consider it wrong if they glad ,assisted In the manner indicated by m? A. That_ would depend upon circum- stances. I think it was very possible that money might be legitimately expended in such & fight as 1 had, because I had a large fusion majority to overcome. I do not_ feel that ail expenditures of money, even in large sums, may be illegitimat by any means, I very much doubt that any money sent into that country for the assistance of the palitical campaign was at all improserly used, but it is a matter of doubt and not of knowledge. Q. As a matter of fact you do mot know whether there was any money Sent in there or not? A. 1 do not. It was not sent to me, at any rate. Q. What I want to get at, Mr. Cosper, is this: You would not regard it as being improper if that money had been sent in there, especially under the circumstances detailed to you? A. You put that as a question, I sup- pose? Q. Yes. A. The answers that I have made— . Just walt a minute. . Very well. Q. Then what I would ke to know is, why, when you were examined by the gentlemen of the committee and asked if you knew of any improper proposals being made to you, you coupled the name of an Assemblyman with this statement if it is immaterial? 2 SAN FRANCISCO'S CHARTER I5 BEFORE THE GOVERNOR Passed the Senate by a Unanimous Vote Without Debate, and Only Awaits the Governor's Signature to Become Law, CALL HEADQUARTERS, SACRA- MENTO, Jan. 19.—The San Francisco charter has now passed both branches of the Legislature, and of the 120 members of the Senate and Assembly, but one lone and solitary Assemblyman could be found to oppose it. That Assemblyman was Grove L. Johnson of Sacramento. As far as legislative action is concerned the charter is now disposed of, for it was finally adopted in the Senate this morn- ing. ‘When the charter came up in that body Senator Wolfe moved that it be referred to the' San Francisco delegation. Senators Cutter, Curtin and Sims vig- orously opposed the proposition of Sena- tor Wolfe on the ground that as the peo- pleof San Francisco or a majority of them have approved of the charter it was clear- ly the duty of the Legislature to ratify that action. Senator Davis of Amador, who is one of the most impressive speakers on the floor of the Senate, opposed the motion in a most vehement speech, during the course of which he said: “It does not_make the slightest differ- ence to us what the San Francisco dele- gation thinks of this charter. Whether they favor it 6r whether they oppose it is to us a matter of perfect indifference. The Senate needs no command or man- date from that delegation as to what A. Because, as 1 remember, I was rectly asked to do that very thing. It was not at my sclicitation, nor have I and not by direct statement, made any voluntary statements. i it should do with regard -to this charter. The Senate cannot amend the instrument, It must be adopted or rejected as a whole. The people of the city of San Francisco have approved of this measure and their wishes should be respected by the Legis- lature. There s not a member on the floor who was elected in 1898 who is not pledged to vote to approve this charter, and we should vote to approve it without delay.” Senator Simpson of Los Angeles also favored the proposition to vote to approve the charter without further reference or delay. Senator Smith of Kern County an- nounced that he favored the charter, but if good reasons could be glven why it should be referred he was willing to vote to do so. Senator Wolfe finally simplified mat- ters by withdrawing his motion to refer. He explained that he had opposed the adoption of the charter by the people of San Francisco, but when the question came up in the Senate he thought that he would be “tempted” to vote to ratify it, even though only by a narrow margin a majority of his constituents had voted in favor of the charter. \ The vote was then taken on the ques- tion of ratification, and thirty-five Sena- tors voted aye. After the result had been announced Senators Hoey and Feeney en- tered and requested that they be record- ed as voting aye, but President Flint ruled that this could not be done. So re- ally the charter had thirty-seven sup- Dorters, with three Senators absent. not want to bandy his name around with of this kind. Mr. Grant is just exactly in the same boat. Mr. Mellick—Do you wish to have him here for the purpose of impeaching Mr. Cosper’s evidence? Mr. Bacon—No, sir. T do not think that the impeaching of Mr. Cosper's evidence cuts any figure in this case. What you want to know is’ whether that was ac- tually done. Mr. Cosper's evidence was that Mr. Green said he had never said this on the street. The chairman—No; Mr. Cosper’s evi- dence was to the effect that no such offer was ever made, as well. Mr. Bacon—Yes. The chairman—I consider that vastly more important to this committee than whether Mr. Green had sald anything con- cerning me personally. 5 Mr. Bacon—Now, we want to find out what Mr. Lamberson says. Mr. Mellick—As I understand, Mr. Lam- berson says that Mr. Cosper says so. Mr. Bacon—No, sir; he don’tsay anything of the kind. He says that Mr. Cosper sent him up here anythlnfi to make this proposition. Now that is a direct, flat-footed charge, gen- tlemen, and it seems to. me if you want to inves- tigate anything now is the chance. Mr. Lam- berson said that Mr. Cosper told him that he had been offered $6000 that he did not wish to vote for Burns, orithat he would: just as soon vote for Mr. Grant, or words to that effect, or if he did he thought he ought to have the same amount of money as if he voted for Burns. Now there is a flat-footed proposition, gentlemen, and you can investigate it or not, as you choose. A motion was made_that a subpena be issued for Mr. Lamberson, seconded and carried, Mr. Mellick voting no. Mr. Mellick—I would just like to say this: That I think you gentlemen l?u;‘e one off half-cocked and I want to wit ; gra\w from the committee. I don’t gnn anything more to do with it. I mas e.a motion to reconsider the vote when the motion was carried to subpena [hos(e other gentlemen, }he next time we met, and filed my motion. riir, Burnegt-Mr. de Young has printgd a statement that D. M, Burns has e>:; pended $14,000 of railroad money to elefi a railroad’ candidate. I understand he made the stfltemelll(. editorially in the San Francisco Chronicle. Mr. Mell!ck;x'l‘here Mr. Simpson. You can call him. ?\n}’r. Burnett—Wwell, I want to sce Mike. The chairman—You say you will moye to_reconsider u&is at our next meeting? Mr. Mellick—Yes. The committee then adjourned to meet is to-morrow morning at 10 o'clock. GRILLING OF GREEN DID NOT COME OFF A Disappointed Lobby Fails to Thrill With a Sensation. / Scandals and Investigations So Change Conditions That' Prophesying Turns Out to Be Bad Business. BY HENRY JAMES. CALL HEADQUARTERS, SACRA- MENTO, Jan. 19.—This morning Milton Green was to have appeared at the bar of the Assembly and either answer a question, or, according to general belief, be sent to jail for contempt. He did not appear, as the stenographic notes of the committee had not been written up, and the only showing made by it was a re- quest for stationery. This was readily granted. _There were more people present than usual, for the spectacle of a man in the act of being grilled is something which attracts. I do not see why it should, for to me there is nothing more distressing than to see a man writhing on the wit- ness stand, plied with questions which he can only answer at the cost of the repu- tation of himself or his friends. In my letters from this city I had pre- dicted without prejudice the election of Grant, and it is a matter of regret to me as an amateur prophet to have to accept the view that he is out of it. Possibly this is a mistaken view. Grant still leads, but after the showing that his money has been given to candidates for the Assem- bly, a circumstance attested by Green, acknowledged by Wright, I cannot see how Grant has a shadow of a chance. I have been unable to see from the first how there was any chance for Burns. Therefore I confess to being utterly in the air and everybody else is. Bulla gained a few votes and the glad hand, still the goal is so far in advance of him as not to be in view. Barnes gained a vote, These facts may be significant or not. For my part, I do not at this moment believe that at the day of adjournment there will have been a Senator elected. 2 Howard E. Wright received $1650 of Grant money through Milton Green. Both of them have acknowledged this under oath, and both of them had denied it in conversation with newspaper men. This was the allegation of The Call, and it was substantiated by the principals. This pa- per had also stated that Wright had promised to vote for Grant. For verifica- tion it is only necessary to scan the testi- mony of Wright himself, for if ever a man was convicted out of his own mouth Wright is the man. There is a point that the committee should make clear. Green testified to having been told by a friend that Wright was going to Burns for money and that he intercepted him and auppfied the money. But ne would not tell the name of this friend. I do not see how he can avold doing so. Green has repeatedly said that he had no apol- ogy to offer for the use of money amon; rospective legislators, because none of P! was in the nature of a bribe nor for the urposes of corruption. If this is the fn.ct, the friend concerned witn him could not be jeapardizedjg: reputation by the fullest statement. e friend oupgnr to be willing_to take the stand and tell how he Knew Wright was going to Burns for money, and there seems to be no reason why Green should object to his doine so. It must never be thought there is any leasure in writing a truth which hurts. n the contrary it 18 often a painful duty. The truth has been told and it has deeply wounded. There are threats in plenty, which mean only that sore spots have been touched. As a citizen of California I would be glad to record that the contest for the Senatorship was clean and honor- able. To do so is impossibie. Throughout it runs the taint of fraud, intimidation, hase. p‘ggg:rdlesfl of anything the committee may formally conclude, regardless of the possibility of the whitewash, I am con- Pinced that the methods of the Grant management have killed Grant. This leaves Burns next. His followers are hopeful, having looked upon Grant as the chief obstacle in their way. But I do not see them, demonstrating the strength. They talk about it freely, but where is it? Last night I said I believed the Assem- bly committee of investigation was a fair and honest body. The satisfaction of say- ing so still remains, and I hope 1t will to the end. That an embarrassing task has fallen to it there can be no question, and to emphasize the ignominy of the presiding officer of the Assembly must strike all the members as something they would rather avoid. The session this af- ternoon was interesting, and while fully set forth in the news columns some of the salient features may not be out of place here. Two Call reporters, Messrs. Burke and Levings, were the principal witnesses. When Levings told about having heard the rumor that Cosper had offered to vote for Grant for $6000, this having been the figure expected from Burns, there was a bit of a sensation. It must not be un- derstood that any weight is to be at- tached to any rumors, and no man can be so grounded in the confidence of his fellows as to escape them. Neither can any afford to ignore them, and Cosper will not. Nevertheless, as chairman of the committee, the surprise must have been Iittle less than a shock. He will be given full opportunity to refute it—an oppor- tunity which he would doubtless demand were this necessary. The man said to have acted as messenger between Cos- per and the Grant camp has been sub- penaed and Cosper has made oath that the charge is unfounded. Mr. Burke corroborated the allegations that Wright had admitted having receiv- ed Grant money for which no note was exacted, and that Wright had threatened to have the representatives of this paper expelled trom the floor unless they J’ls- cgnllnued the habit of exposing his meth- ods. The testimony of these gentlemen seem- ed to have great weight, and the hints they offered materially widened the pos- sibilities. There stretches before the écom- mittee a field, the limit of which cannot be surmised. The work in sight promises to consume as much time as the election of a Senator, and, perhaps, adjournment will find it incomplete. The only tangi- ble result thus far is the discrediting of ‘Wright and the elimination of Grant as a factor in the situation, and as to the latter there is an element of speculation. The other is a certainty, as nothing the committee could do would restoreWright. The charter has been saved. Charles L. Patton and others have been here and devoted noble efforts to its salvation. It was never In the least possible danger, sentiment for it being unanimous except as to Assemb\i;ma.n Johnson of Sacra- mento, whose objections were just strong enough to control his own vote. Howev- er, Patton and the others showed their ood will and loyalty, and had a good time. They have gone home now proud and happy at having snatched the charter from defeat. Senator Boyce's remarkable resolution is on its way to where twineth the wood- bine. Already it had been shorn of its most eccentric_features, its stuffing knocked out, and by the time it comes up far final actfon the author will not be able to re- cognize his own handiwork and thus will mourn but moderately over its defeat. The idea of Boyce seems to be that newspaper men in their quest for information must not disturb the repose of the diplomats composing the Legislature. There are plenty in the Senate who take a broader view, among them Dickinson, Shortridge, Braunhart and Morehouse; yet 1 have seen all the gentlemen roasted, indeed have myself taken a friendly fall out of them. “They are too big to resent the criticlsm which must come to those in gubllc life, or to think themselves mem- ers of a superior class. Perhaps Bovce has not gained much by putting himself on_exhibition. ‘While the Assembly was walting this morning for the sensation which never came, I listened to proceedings so inter- estedly as to fall asleep. hen Major Kyle ge!s to reading a bill his voice lulls a tired world to rest. k¢ To-night the Grant men are 'hnldlngl a caucus, For particulars see some other page. The rumor is that the¥ intend to stand pat, and as every other faction has similar intentions a whole lot of immova. ble bodies are mixed up with forces sup- posed to be irresistible. JUSTUS S. WARDELL RETAINS HIS SEAT CALL HEADQUARTERS, SACRA- MENTO, Jan. 19.—Justus 8. Wardell will retain his seat in the Assembly as rep- resentative of the Thirty-ninth District. The contest of Leon Jones before the As- sembly Committee on Contested Elections came to an end this evening and the com- mittee will recommend such a course. Chairman Cosper did not join in the con- clusion reached by the members of the committee, as he had not attended its ses- sions, owing to the necessity of his being resent at the investigation of Speaker right. He said he intended going over the ground covered by the committee, and, if satisfied with. the law in the premises, would vote with the majority. Ex-Assemblyman Frank Powers, attor- ney for Leon Jones, appeared before the committee and argued earnestly in favor of his client. He stated that waiving technicalities Mr. Jones would have won out by four votes and, further, that if the committee insisted 'on technicalitles, his client would have been seated by a majority of eight votes. Mr. Powers uoted ‘authorities from the Supreme ourts of various States and advised the committee on the legal phase of the con- test, but without avail. Assemblyman Hanley replied to Mr. Powers' arguments and the committee then voted in favor of Mr. Wardell. JOY IN THE BULLA CAMP OVER TWO MORE VOTES CALL HEADQUARTERS, SACRA- MENTO, Jan. 19.—There was certainly joy ‘at the headquarters of Senator Bulla this. evening. The fact that the Senator had gained four votes during the two joint ballots taken this afternoon was not al- together the cause of the good feeling, but the prospects which his supporters felt he had to gain several more to-mor- row was given as the reason for the confl- VoI understana,” said Senator Bulla, 4 two Assemblymen and the two S aCwho came over and honored me With their votes to-day will remain with me until I win the fight or until in their opinion there is no prospect for me to vin. Wit course my supporters feel highly ratified, for I have gained more votes in he day’ than amy other candidate since the contest opened. To-morrow there will ably be a further gain. No, 8ir, the fact that I now have thir- teen votes in no way phases me. I am not superstitious. To-morrow is Friday. If I can gain thirteen votes to-morrow I am perfectly willing; In fact, I will gladly accept them. I do think the figure thirteen is a hoodo: BILLS BEFORE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SACRAMENTO, Jan. 19.—The Assem- bly’s Judiclary Committee transacted a large amount of important business at its session to-night. It not only recommend- ed for passage Mr. Meserve's bill reduc- ing the number of Superior Judges in San Bernardino County Iso recommended the pa sembly bill No. 149, which, if successful, will amend the Code of Civil Procedure In reference to appeals to the Supreme Court from interlocutory judgments in actions to declare what are deeds and what are mortgages. 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