The San Francisco Call. Newspaper, January 20, 1899, Page 2

[&] THE SAN FRANCISCO CALL, FRIDAY, JANUARY 20, 189 FULL STENOGRAPHIC REPORT OF THE INVESTIGATION A. 1 told him that I thought Mr. Grapi's — k | o — —Well, Mr. Colver, I think | .es were good at that Mr. Burnett—What did you go to see| would shoot, strike or otherwise damage | gate carefully. The Chronicle, I under- | 'The chairman: with us, that that matter | chances g [hflugh it ‘was po: ake? you will admit, ed a g} K i him for? Mr. Le: stand, sent Mr. Rathom over to Yolo | ¥C investigation as_to | 100l o coming from the s A. T went to argue with him for Mr.| A. No, sir, never. County, and he was unable to—from the | would not further the IWestiEi UL G ror | beéng“.ealzctggi s a0t Grant; told him I thought Mr. Grant was | Q. Anything of that sort? information ~ I~ received—justify _ the |any Impropet ety siates Senator. It R e Lo a good man; tried to convince him that| A. Never. charges that the Chronicle had made in, the electioh Of KR, §ic,tion of Mr. Leake. | vice to, BP0 S0% out the extent he was an available candidate. 9 Did vou recelve any other money In | regard to Colonel Burns' life there; and | would be anly a YIRQEERO™ Quggest, Mr | . Lthinkc that 18 abors M, Cen | Q. To secure the support of his paper | ald of your candidacy than the money re- | I understand from a very intimate friend of | e 15 e delicacy and . 3 Xtrems paa + Daniel M. Burns? for Mr, Grant? ceived as you have stated? Mr. Bd Leake that Mr, Leake of The Call | Chairman, that the extremg CBUGHE mo- | vorelfoy Deditl A Yes, sir, which he afterward gave| A. No, sir. had “written to him (id Leake) in Yolo | the tenderness of The, P2 Mg quite in| A Noslt 1o time detail ¢ without a dollar of compensation or with- | The chairman—I am not quite clear as | asking him to furnish The Call with any- | ment is delig that they| Q. 3 s te for Da vention of the usage | the reasons why & f B out exacting any character of a promise | to whether you have testified that you | thing to the detriment of Colonel Burns contravention of & here for a few | the s LSS tor him? from Mr. Grant or from any one else|told Mr. Leake that you got the §300 Of | thatocould be sommr it i’F Neavd that Mr, | have been apply ing to me %" gee it. | Burns would be advisable for him? that I am aware of. Mr. Green. Bd Leake said that there was nothing | days past, and [ am ELl. firner, that | A, I think it Is possiie 57 1, Ca0 S Well, what propositions were made | A No. I have said I had testified that | against Colonel Burns in Yolo County, | Mr. Col acse. that has been made|when the break came 1LAHES, 0 T toQM Mosier to secure the support of his | I did not say to him I had received $900. and that the people were his friends | In every cl e dates and names | get on the nnin p G s Mr. Wright ; at kind aper? Q. And you have testified, have you not, | there. All of those things went to form | 2gainst Mr. Wi Stties making | that kind. s i h g f : P W Hab Bropaaltioney that you told Mr. Leake that you had | my opinion. which had been in doubt. | have been given and the p =1 Q. Did you, directly or indirectly, Q. Yes. put the money that you got from Mr.| The chairman—How about that Supreme | the charge. Mr. Colver, please sit| ajately or remotely, ho Pt T ragnet o nvestigation | aKe In a A. Simply the arguments that one man | GIeen into your candidacy? Court Judge business? | gThe chairman—Mr. COVEl: jligence in | any inducements to vote for Mr. might make to get another to support | A Yes, sir, I had said this; that I had| A How do you mean, Mr. Cosper? O B D itner side: A. No, sir. e L his friend this §750°and it was in regard to a busi-| Q. It has been asseried somewhere—I | things of this kind on eiher S qu1ce | Q7 You have been in sympathy w : H Q. Well, T understand that you made a | N¢SS transaction, which sug‘posed he | do'not remember just where—that one of | . M. Colver—If the 5P | Burns’ candidacy in this matter, ha Wldef‘ Flel Terneny underetood from the letter in his hand; | th elements that entered Into your deter- | In them, we can as well. .\ 5. qyjett | pot "My, Brown? i : z A. Yes, sir. and he said, “Well, you got some other | mining the matter was that you had re- 4 (CHAIT AL *can indulge in| A’ have since he announcec ; Q. In the interests of Grant's cam-|MOney from Mr. Green.” I said, “Yes:| ceived information that four Judges of | I say that neither side cal WmCPUEC 01 20 &I S0 te that I hav that all went into my campaign,” but the 3 | these things any further, £ ; Gy from Colonel Burns or any ] i i palen? amount was never mendoned at all. Dl o oty A GRPrE22eS LIGKE | Dusiness of the committee be dsterred by | guthority from Colonel Burns ot &3 Q. Whom did you go East to see? - On, Tsee: | Mr. Burns “were false, and that his can- | that kind of conduct. BMECUSCRNE Gan | pite fOF DETECES, iVining else, for | be se the way of an interview. | potfer. = | Porha itheseot " mmight suggest, M. Q. Have you any control or inf 4 A. The first time I have expressed this | g4 Points Given by Yesterday's Witnesses May Lead | e v it oyl Mmoms aibem | mateer e it i SebchncnyHiniged. | idheg g & Biabio s o ocoon1ne oints Glven y ester y ay ea gut here brought to bear to defeat Mr. | iping lse gentiomen, yob want to in- | matter, Mr. Cosper. I stated in en INfer” | Chairman, that we can.settle it between | oyer any possible patronage that m A quire about? [ NESW ARV fkatel o ourselves. It ought to be left in that po- | PE¢ JoY Many jegisiator ? rant. Q; Who, dld you see in regard to that| My ‘ellick back, Mr? Wrighty | Solved, ftom an authendc isoures the in-J Cition. A. None whatever. e to Results Undreamed of When the Com- maiter? toyoun sitloe Re ook M W, formation at cous of the Buprime s | 0% i thae to my postton ex-| & B0 MEENED vou coud bring A. Well, I went to see General Hubbard, | yo.d got 56500 nnd. $400. soa ad the can, | tices were favorable to Mr. Burns tor o sstion of | i i no os | ac : o every. | Influence to bear on the question of . . T T Versation with Mr. Green on tae boal: e R e Sar Colver When s mani S SYSPS | omye nting Literest ol any s lesial § " Y 5 then afterward you received the money in v had ss n thing he says, though— | that uld vote for the man el mittee waS AppOlnted A Yes, person. What was sald at the time that | they had said any The. chaliman—What further has the | that would wote for the Ay W oa8G o Call never has asked them the auestion | e, ehaltman-inat, 0ot alion of Mr. Wright? If there is nothing, we will excuse you from the stand. You are | excused, Mr. Wright. Q What did Mr. Hubbard say? S A o I didacy A. What did he say? ot es. a v 5 ¥ whether they are f: | Yes. & o o R | gr untavorable to him. I do not Jenow why A. He said the railroad company would i 2 % Y time—do | The Call does not do so. I imagine mot use any money {0 elect any Man for | yon pomeii, WA sald at that time—do | o4 q ‘get quite different answers from . No, sir. 5 - . Have you given to the committee t full exten: of your conversatidns w chts | CALL HEADQUARTERS, SACRA- have dozens—hundreds—of people coming | the Leglsiature, of to defeat mny canm. % | the ones published, if they did. | s b in that behalf? e bt s intoour rooms in the g 2 Q. 3F Hubbard said he would” take no | wis Lag, Ot Temember of anything that | i ¢ MenlfolcWell, Mz Wright. of course| REPORT OF TESTIMONY 1 not in behalf of the Senatori BL A > = . In the night? part in.the canvass of the State? Q. If th had b vthi id to | it is our business to trace down any ru- C: 3 g 7 n of the testimony P. Brown Of an evening, you v s A. So'T understood hi 3, If there had been anything said to| L ° ' regard to any candidate. | . Kindly detail it in full. f Wednesday which could not be sent | in the. strest 1s (albed. shont thare ook | Q. Soal erstood blim, & e 1o the bind J92 to,his Senatorial candidacy you | ™2t (L FASI (0 (S | TAKEN YESTERDAY| @ Kindly qetait ttib & letter to Mr Chtion: { I could not recall, really, who said it. East? 4 A. T certainiy should have remembered _ Q- The day that you voted differently— | | Green—letter of introduction. e licatior e ({ }\"- it one of your own workers? A. In reference to this matter? it. ves, sir. b ‘goted (o! c;wngde g}?u’r C-.)lzg !?mfiug:flh‘h;t‘{‘ e ‘ Q. “Dd'fdwmle that letter, did you? advising | A" I don't know. I don’ 3 . Yes, in reference to candidacy. "The chal Lo - | Burns, 1 heard that Colone s AC v ; e com-| AlI did. ; S s 16" what | Ql You have s pretiy Koo e nsior e e Fiiiey | gohe chairman—Anything further, gen | invited you up to his room and told you | SAC R*““E{Z‘TXO' '175“ ‘; in room 16| Q. Can you state its contents withe names, haven't you? Q. What did you see Mr. ElKins for? Mr. Lardner—T think Mr. Leake referred | that, if you did not come into his camp | mittee of investigation m getting the letter? You have not th A. No; I think I have got a poor mem-| A. Well, Mr. Grant wanted me to g0 and | to one maftter that has nof heen fouched | to vote for him, that your whole work as | of the Capitol building at 2:30 p. M., | [otter now? # rodld b {ory’ of names. see him, and talk to him about the situa- | upons that Iy, that the organisation of | Speaker would' be a failure, and that| yono.0 "o ard the following testi- | A. No. § The letter would be al | Q. It seems to me so now. tlon here, and see if he could render him | committees, elc., was withiield till after | therefore you changed, | i e best evidence. I do not recall now the |, A 1 thing I have got a poor memory of | &1V assistance anywhere; but he evident- | he found out how the different members | A. That is absolutely and unqualiniedly | mony was taken: contents. It was simply a letter of Intrc | names. ly could not. of the Assembly stood and then organ- |untrue, Mr. Mellick. L. H. Brown, being sworn, testified | quection. Mr. Raub was the Asse y- Q. But cannot you remember what the| Q- What did Mr. Elkins say? ized them according to the wishes of cer-| Q.1 wished only to give you a chance to | , =5 ) " | man from Yuba and Sutter, and that I litical matter: man looked like?” Was it an old man? A. Oh, he talked very friendly of Mr. | tain prominent candidates, or influences | explain. 1 AL = ‘oup | knew him to be an honest man, some- How about f A. Oh, T suppose there were twenty peo- | Grant—knew him since he was a boy, | of that character were held out or used | pthe chairman—You may state YOUT|ihing of that kind. you knew t ple in the room when that statement was against vou, or foward you. - What san | name to the committee. Q. You knew Grant to be—oh, you kne A 1 no part in financial matter: made. 5 you say ‘as to that matter? T think Mr. | A. Lewis Henry Brown. = Raub to be. X A% T » In the figuring out | " "q 'Nyme gomebody in the room when . Leake referred to it in his testimony. Q. Do you know Daniel M. Burns? A. Raub—well, I believe Grant is, too, of' this propositic chances of suc- |, & Hame somebody in Mr. Mellick—T think he only referred to Al I do. % ; for ‘that matter. et Do on cess on the T «'{\«vf Mr. Grant k‘"“ "I“- D- | "A. what I cannot tell you it in the case of Muedntnr. and that has fi ?od you know Ulysses S. Grant? kQ, Can you get that letter? Do ¥ Y ns you kept close track as possi- | FIE ras Mr G already been answered in re t 3 0. now? % 1 S ho movements and actions of | The chatrman—Was Mr. Green present? Wright, oo ® a1t M, Q. Mr. Brown, it has been asserted on | "X presume Mr. Green has it. I think Mr. ? 3 L R Wab ME Gt e raty o The witness—As also have I said in my the witness stand here that you had | he can produce it. RN A. Not as close track as possible prob- | Q. Was Mr. Grant present? testimony to-night, Mr. Mellick, that I called some legislators into your pres-| Q. Do you now remember whether tha - 1 would say yes as because Mr. Grant is nt, I think, in the general k vou have | room. However, it seems to me that Mr. formed my committees without reference to_Senatorial candidates or corporations. Mr. Lardner—I do not know but what tating that | letter contained any advice as to what ence and intimidated them b 3 M. Burns— | course he should pursue in the: matter of to that generally, if they did not vote for Dax ewhere in touch. | always pr Mr. Brown, I rdner I do nof know but what Mr. Mellick—On, no; if they Voted for | his vote? it was referred to by Mr, Leake—I thin rant. No, sir. that v interests and those | Brown could be sent for and asked it ‘Was_that tha committees were' an | The chairman—Yes, that if they voted | Mellick—What ~difference does it r'fn Which you are interested | Whether he did it or not. I don't remem- nounced, and then, after the preferences 7 ber who told me. The chairman—I think, myself, Brown ‘might be sent for. for Grant they could not receive any | make? : patronage. I want to ask you if you have | The chairman—Well, there is nothing 2 ¢ legis! 2 any thus far, Mr. Mellick, but tnis ! called any legislator before you at any | apparent hetfier it may make a h the candidacy of Mr. G of different candidates were found out, they were shifted to their detriment. sir—that I re- time to dis wit Senatorial | inquiry is to_see A ‘ Mr. Mellick—Weil, you sald that you i lioag cussimIth i hos Sendtortal | i aronce. Now, you have detailed all | DS B s niimida ties A. No, sir. Your conversation with Mr. Raub in this , oo Q. You may name the legislators with | respect? | Q You u rd “intimidating”? R A. All that I recall, yes whom you have discusse A A. Discussed it with Assemblymen Raw, | member. Raub and McDonald. i Q. You speak of Mr. McDonald. 1s it 1A. Whe quuwhen did you discuss the | Mr. %Ifcl%t}nald o;eTuo umne? situation with Mr. Raw? | A Livermore. A. 1 think on the street, if T am not| Q. Known here as McDonald of Ala- : msm]ken—snmewhere along K street. lmida‘? : . Do you remember the conversation | . Yes, sir. - B that you had with him? | What conversation, It any, had you A The conversations I had with all | with Mr. )Ir-llrngald concerning the Sei three were similar. atorial situation? Do you remember it? A. Simply, he asked me what I thought A. I think I can recall it. about the situation and T told him what Q- Will you kindly state to the commit- | I thought the outcome would be; similar tee what ‘that conversation was both on | to_ the others. And that was about the your part and that of Mr. Raw? substance of the conversation €o far as - I was asked what I thought of the | I can recall, I do not remember now the situation and what the outcome would be, | details. 1 think that 1s about what ’ an. Stated that it looked like a dead- | Wi 5 B lock, and I thought it possible that Colo- | gentleman or more than one. T know there nel Burns would either be the Senator or | were gentlemen present there at the time | A. That is the word. | The chairman—The clerk will issue a ubpena for Mr. Brown. that .| Mr. Mellick—Now, then, you say that . will you give such evidence a5 ( yoy heard that a certain’ candidate was s | Sending to Los Angeles—spending how ou will hear all = Fhéy wiil | much did you'say? Five or six hundred 1 sorts of *'s S T | dollars? come and end to have informatlon to0 | "4 'On, I would say—I would estimate—! give vou so they can borrow half a dollar | ypgergfood they had sixty-one pet()pléla or_such mat question in an- | here, and I estimated it would take five 1ues e | or six hundred doilars a day to keep them going; and I know that every session, when they come to vote on joint ballot. man has two guardians, who sit de him. nd how many people has Grant got = improper | fr. D. M. s who Q here | A, Grant? Oh, I don’t think he has—I | don’t know how ‘many he has got here. Republican legislato : it was in the presence of another his candidacy for Burns or ‘ name the Senctor. of the conversation; a gentleman named q Q. I mean on the payroll. ¥ 4 i : ave the qu | . NS Davi . Did you state to h chy | Herton. : d it. e s elliil donitknow fof e Sy inayroll [ S That omeesona why | SR ne a resident of Sacramento, do nk 1 would be in a posi- |SiT. % A. No, sir. vou know? Mow'th do that: but T might later | G- Do not know of any payrol1? / Q What reply did Mr. Raw make to| A- Of Livermore. He is here, T believe. ¥ i you? Q. He is here? f you can refresh vour | The Do you know of any . We . Yes, sir. T o St it} you do, 807 | roll for any candidate? it ‘;fg‘,;ogfiiif;msgr{flgfl;fii Wik e on A D ok inthal conversation have A. It'is ible. It is possible I might | 'i-‘:n{(-‘kvbn N amm Eihat he would name the Senator in anytlflnz 110 say about patronage? do_so. 5 | James < G a: 33 e end. A. No, sir. " %on il actempe that, wil our | Jamis B ieligte oFtne b T +sZASSEMBLY MAN Sl I8 B eive you the reasons why ne | & DI 300 present to Mr, McDorals v > ¥4 ) . come to that conclusion? ny ins 3 : 3 Dotvou now reeall any instante? | r-ux rrm,d 1 e B = CLOUGH GINES A. 1 do mot think he aig" T do not re- | Soéver that would have a tendency to i A. Not at this moment; no. alr. | o2 300 Jou haye e coneriation with A SPIEL call It at east. fiuence his Vote for United States Se u poin 8 €Ol ee | 1 S| 5 Vi s 2 . Was 8 a ? . Q. Now, you point this committee | jogiciators to vote for Grant? ABOUT THE matter of discussion 1o thes Gotronage a | 29T, r 1 did tell him, I think, if I to any means where ey et 1o | A. Did I have a conversation? W No, sir at conversation? | 1 "not mistaken, come to recall it, that T of any nences brought fo| @%%" BELSHAW. D &1 Rt Policve Bt Sir. Grant, under the ear u Laspiad 5t United A. No, sir. ALT = "N 3 {rcumstances, could win; and I presume, in the the electlon of .| . Q Did you have a conversation with| oBRETZ 5 T R It ot T said something v not mistaken Mr. Kelly in regard to getting certain pa- Q. Have vou at any time since the elec- | \f 1 am X r vote s he winning side in the date tha d or voted UPOR | persto support Mr. Grant? EX-POPULIST, tion 9L M. Raw to the Assembly dis- o getting on the & in this Leg A. Certain papers? No, sir. cvgsed the questian of patronage? Q. You stated what you believed to be AN Q. Neithr directly nor indirectly? Ihe Wiy St A. At the moment Q. Never had a conversation with him A. No, sir. A. Well, I thought in the end—I did not THE SENATE | A. 1 might later, sir. | G Any paper ENTERS Q. Can you do S0 now | | | 3 : say who the Senator would be—but I And the In- | in Tegard to Grant's candidac Q- Have you done that in person or | fhoushi that. Colenel HBurns brobably n A. Oh, I do not think there is any ques- through any agency whatever? would name the Senator finally; that is, St b tell “what sou | tion I Bave talked of Grant's candidacy, CHAMBER * A. No, sir, I thought his votes, whichever way they Lo b but certainly I never asked Mr. Kelly Qs b:rleuer'l Went. wonld nmme the Senator: That was z to get any newspaper to support MT. . No, sir, S i —{dea. y it T should B PP Q! Telegraph or telephone? R e s it 5o tnouent by e ling of the| Q- Well, T mean—or tried to influence A. No, sir. that Colonel Burns would name the Sen- QUStiSICOImIm 5 Siing> around | any legislator? Q. Mr. Brown, where and when did you | ator, did you mean thereby that Colonel : {2 S uring ihe | LA No et have a conversation with Mr. Raub con- | Burns would dictate as to who the Sen- Tegl #Te1s common knowl. | Q. Well, to promote Grant's candidacy cerning the Senatorial situation? ator would be? A bt o' foltts ana stracgacs | 10 ANy way? AL think it was walking out of the| A.No, no. I did not. I simply thought Sheat b les on the end of their | . A. Well, Mr. Kelly and I—we didn’t—I Capitol, if T am not mistaken, going down ! onsaee | have never talked to Mr. Kelly about e ey D hbers OF Theiesinr dore e e S roe he information; and T | Pers or anything of that character. would not attempt to repeat them or to| Q. Or Grant’s candidacy? 2 ot o2 Oh. ves; talked about Grant's can- B chairman— vould not b acy. A | 7Q. Weu, what did you say to him? 3 péby, Well T don't know—simply 1 thought ellTek—] is in a position to | he was a good candidate; he’ thought he el okt e d R O D a vie:iht MAT (Hioy STt R maa e : think so vet. It is difficult to g0 back ive us some of the ru- | OVer conversations and repeat what was have hea {ou have got | Said. e O R My ellick— i) hw vou Sciem s nty of time. Oh, we have heard rumors that YeAar ago, you say, that Colonel Burns roney ey Delns asel on tha Siher Alds | Was golng jo be a candldate Tor United Q. What were those rumors? States Senator? A. Oh, nothing. I cannot state specifi- | | A I did not say I knew it. T said I be- cally now. We have heard that vast num- | Heved it. : a 5 3 of people were being brought up here | Q- And then that you planned Grant's Los Angeles; t the Los Angeles | Campalen ;‘;r‘;‘m‘"g" ? B and That the eaente of Molng that | @ And what led vou to belleve that was five or six hundred dollars a day, | Colonel Burns would be a candidate? A. 1 heard it in San Francisco. and I have heard all sorts of stories. A 7 'ho did you hear w ting Q. And who told you? I s34 you hear Was puttlng up | L' 611 don't remembar. who 1t was A. For whom? told me T don't remember who it was, C for any | SR - andi- | Q- I suppose, then, during the campal dnbag, FOF 80y of the Benatorfal candl-| o & oo iNe that 'Colonel Burns. Wwould A. T cannot recall now that they specifi- | be the opposing Senatorial candidate— cally mentioned anybody; but I don't per- ;’}'{i:}“{::gwl" acts pretty closely, so far as °t me generally. 2 ously | " A. Oh, no. T am not a spy, you know. ndustriously to see it I| @ BUi Trely in a general way, as you an you recall a single rumor con- | 88 ng the name of any candidate for | A the United States Senate with any ber of the Legislature as having a him financially? Have you heard, at No, I don’t know as I paid any par- ticular attention to him. Q. Well, do you know of anything dur- ing the campaign that led you to belleve time, of any candldate for United States | that he was snecially promoting his can- SenaKtnr having assisted any candidate for dMflcy|gu}’"lng the progress of tge general the Legislat e? campaign? A Yes: 1 heard it here on the witness | A. Do I know of anything that he was stand this morning. Q. Have y doing? | eard v 2], Q. %{es, did you hear of any cases where !\u\'ehx‘S;‘:d :‘ymk:‘,?‘f,rf‘:im‘nelffié he was spending money for special can- | didates? A 3 f vou heard it In talk on the| A. He as an individual? streets with your friend: (}- {,%5- A ave heard those things that were AT publishes e newspape: e v . Now, then, you say that you were published in the newspapers talked. ~Yes, | Q- Mo, then, you say toat you were Q. But nothing except what was pub- | ¥OU one of the advisers that told him to contribute this money directly to the legislative candidates rather than to put it into the campaign fund of the State Central Committee? g A. Well, I dog't fi'""‘é“‘;}"é‘é 1 ad\'fied X o7 > him that specifically; but e question inatances, sarein | ColLect some of those | BUL 20 ca'Tne T should certainly have ade A. Ob.I'have understood that one party | Vised him not to have put it in the hands sending for members of the Leg- | 0f the Republican State Central Commit- islature and attempting to i ee. 2 them not to vote for Mr. Grant. 95t | *G on what ground? Q. Who was that party? | _A. On the ground that the chairman of A. Who sent for members of the Leg- | that committee was not for Grant; and 1ed in the new pinning me down t was transpiring— one thing upon another for two | 1slature? I don't think I would trust to the ex- Q. Yes. penditure of money to be scattered all A. It was a namesake of mine, named | OVer the whole ticket when he had am- Brown. » named | ble funds. Q. Brown? | V@ Do vou understand that Major Me- A. Ye ; Laughlin was in any way slighting the Q. What Brown? legislative ticket? Ax w A. Do T understand that he was? Q. What candidates—do you know of | Q. Yes. any candidate that he sent for? Do wou | A.Oh, no; I never heard that. remember the name? 7 Q. Well, then. if you had contributed A. No, I don’t know that. | money to the State Central Committee's The chalrman—You mean any legisla- | fund you would have just promoted the tor, Mr. Burnett? | whole ticket, rather than one special leg- Mr. Burnett—Yes. fsiator? Q. You said “candidate.” | A. 1 presume that might have been so. Mr. Burnett—Legislator, I mean. Mr. Burnett—You say you made a_num- Mr. Mellick—I did not understand that | ber of trips throughout the State durin; answer. You say that you have heard | the campaign and before the campaign? that L. H. Brown was sending for mem- | A. No, sir. bers of the Legislature and intimidating | Q. Well, vou sald that you mafe one to them to vote for certain candidates for | Los Angeles? ? | (A. T sald I made several trips to Los A. No; telling them that Mr. Gage | Angeles. I made two, I think, to Los would not give them any patronage—and | Angeles. telling them that they could not get any | Q;’ Who did you go to Los Angeles to bills __through for their county, etc. | see? Q. Unless they voted for whom? A. ] went down to Los Angeles to see A. If they voted for Grant. | Mr. Mosier on two occasions. Q. Now, who told you? | _ Mr. Mellick—Mosler? You mean L. E. A. Who' told me that? I don't recollect | Mosier. editor of the Times? now who did’tell me that. You see, we| A. Yes. if you please. sation with Mr. Raw concerning the Sena- qumx., Saramedts— A. 1 do not remember that testimony, Q. Was it a fact, or was it not a fact? A. It was not a fact; not a fact. The chairman—There is another branch of Mr. Leake's testimony that I would like to inquire about, Mr. Wright. Mr. Leake on Saturday even- ing that if he would not make the ex- posures mentioned by you you would try to persuade Colonel ‘Burns to get out of the Senatorial fight? A. T did not. liked him very much, and knew him A. There never has been any such inter- belfeved he would be view between Colonel Burns has Colonel Burns ever requested me to votefor him. T votedupon my own volition and because I believed then, and I believe now, that it is the proper thing to do. The chairman—Was vote from Bulla to Burns induced by any promise, consideration by way of money or of patronage through Mr. Burns or any agent of Mr. Burns? A. Not in the slightest degree, sir. vour change from as an honest man; ood Senator. he agree to lend his influence to Mr. Grant's candidacy? A. Did he agree to do it? He agreed to do anything he could, but as he confessed, he did not see anywhere that he could and me, nor your change p. Q. Did you see any one else in the East with the candidacy of Mr. o R I told Mr. Leake I was continue to vote for Mr. Burns, testified in answer to a quektion ave put here to-night. Q. Did you say to Mr. Leake in any of that conversation that for any consider- ation_whatever you would attempt to get Burns to withdraw from t torial fight? A. T did not. A. 1 saw Mr. Grant's mother. Q. Any one else? A. Not that I call to mind now. Q. Do you know of any one else that went East in the interests of Mr. Grant's Lardner—Was Mr. Bulla to Mr. Burns promptes instructions from your district? . No, sir. : Mr. Mellick—Had you received help from Colonel Burns or the State Central A. Not that I know of. Ca}xmnllttee in getting your nomination? Q. What did you ask Mr. Hubbard to do for Mr. Grant’s candidacy? ‘A. Did not ask him to do anything for 1 asked him not to do anything it "Dl hie agree to that? 2 e enid that ey would do nothing against any one or foF any one. “he. chalrman—Mr. 'd ‘that your people thought that Mr. be the man. A "We thought s0; ves. And for_ further corrob- oration of my testimony I would ask that Colonel Burns be subpenaed and asked whether, at any tim him to get out of the Q. Well, that would not to_your_conversations. Well, T did not say so, Mr. Cosper. Mr. Lardner—I want One other question about this man Prin- he receive any money at all A. Yes, sir, he did. Q. What was the consideration for that? How did that happen? A. The consideration was this: a very poor young man; g a hatd fight in the hope elected. Aside from_ that much interested in Mr. Jordan himself, after ringle had withdrawn, came to me and le's condition, and I the case, Frank, I If he has been put to this expense under the hope that he was going to be elected, why, portion of it to him,” and that informa- tlon was taken to Mr. Pringle, and later I Fortlon of ‘his expenses. . How long have you known Colonel A. I have known him since 1897. Mr. Devlin—I would like to ask at this stage, Mr. Chairman, are you going to ask every member of the Legislature the reason he voted for a candidate? The chairman—I have stated repeatedly the course this committee follows will be a matter of development. Mr. Devlin—I think fully and fairly answered all of the ques- The chairman—I think he has. it is not to his detriment that h Mr. Devlin—And it puts a witness, some- times, in a delicate position to speak of the merits of different candidates. Mr. Mellick—The reason I asked him specially is because the attorneys for Mr. Grant and friends of Mr. Grant seem to think we are specially directing this in- vestigation that way. The witness—I have no objection, gen- I am very glad to answer your I have requested ‘rove anything stated that understand. Burns woul the witness has thought so. Q. Hoew sonfi did you determine that the man you would have to fight in this can- idacy was Mr. Burns? How early in the be 3 Agtiveih hatives he had been mak. A. Well, we always would have to fight Mr. Burns or his ins fluence straight through. Not as an in- dividual, of course—as an didividual can- That was settled when the an- nouncement was made in San Francisco that he would be a candidate; but I al- ways thought that he might be one. Q. About what time was the candidacy of Mr. Burns for the United States Senate announced in San Francisco? A. Oh, not but a little while previous to the convening of this Legislature, I be- e was very told me of Mr. Prin, said, “Well, if that ‘will help him out. will return a Mr. Mellick—He has voted for Colonel Burns, and we want to find out the rea- did give him a Q. How much A. Two hundred and fifty dollars. Q. Was any portion of that a portion of the Green money? A. Yes, sir; it was money that I had received from Mr. Green. ou had received from Green? , sir. Mr. Mellick—Now, Mr. Wright, will you tell the reason why, after you voted for Mr. Bulla, you turned and voted for Colo- A. I voted for Mr. Bulla because I had told him a year ago that if he were a candidate and I were ever elected to the Legislature I would be very glad to vote Before the time came for voting I went to Mr. Bulla and sald that I was going to give him a complimenta: d if it developed that he would have strength enough to win I should be glad to vote right along for him. Burns' candidacy, in the meantime, as I have testifled here before, was interest- 1 had been receiving in- formation in regard to the charges that The Call and the Chronicle against him, and the information I re- ceived led me to believe that the charges were false and were untrue. Mr. Bulla and told him that I was to vote for Colonel Burns, and did so. That is all. | Mr. Lardner—You had heard those old | charges before, hadn’'t you, Mr. Wright? They had been sounded very much in the newspapers, but I hadn’t had a chance until I came here to investi- Mr. Devlin—All right; I have no objec- Q. Not more than four weeks before the i convening of the Legislature, was it? A. Not more than four weeks. Q. Well, prior to that time, or at least up to two or three weeks before that time, did you not understand was_friendly to the candidacy of M. H. on. Mr. Sanford—There is one thing, I be- | lieve, Mr. Wright, that has been over- looked. I believe Mr. Leake said you told | him that you promised your wife never to vote for Colonel Burns. A. Well, that is untrue. Q. No such conversation took place? A. That is untrue. We never had any such conversation. The chairman—Will you pass judgment on that question, gentlemen? (The chairman hands a written ques- tion to the members of the committee.) The witness—I shall object, of course, gentlemen, to The Call conducting this examination. Mr. Colver (of The Call)—If pardon me, I will there seems to be no one else to represent it, and I will act as attorney in fact for The name of the manager e_Call has been brought into con- t here by the witness, and he has the allegation that certain citizens of Sacramento have referred contemptu- to the manager of the paper. ese_citizens as promi- e is giving them ey are prominen I think The Call d Mr. Leake himself are entitled to know who these business men are, and the ublic as well, in order to judge as to tEelr chn.ructer,ta.n{ltuhm vzhert‘heg or not ey are competent to besmirch the char- acter of Mr. Lealk: A. That was common rumor; yes, sir. Q. That was your feeling, as one of the managers for Grant, was it not? A. I figured it was either Mr. de Youn; or Mr. Burns, and in either event it woul have been Mr. Burns' strength that he would have to fight or have to overcome. Q. You figured against the strength of Mr. Burns and not the strength of Mr. A. Well, we figured on both. think we omitted to figure on anything that was dangerous. The chairman—You are excused, UNFINISHED TESTIMONY OF HOWARD E. WRIGHT Following is that portion of the tes- timony of Howard E. Wright omitted the present. ing me greatly. e refers to tl nent business men. business men, an—Had you in any conver- Leake Intimated that you sation with Mr. either at lunch hour or after the adjourn- mg{u, of the Assembly—I am not certain which. Q.1 will Tetygn once more to Mr. Raw, ad you any other conver- torial situation than the one you have mentioned ? A. No; T do not think I have. I do not think I had any other that I reme?nger now. Mr. Raw and I are old friends and we possibly discussed it another time, but I don't know as we did Q. What is your best recollection in (hxt !;{Pgi]{rd?d . 'Well, I do not remember as we did. He would be the best witness to that ex- tent—that is, he could be put on the stand and r‘oul{} tell you whel?fl’ we had the conversation or not, but I do not remem- ber that we did. o Q. Very well. Then returning to Mr. Raub. Can you remember that conversa- lit(l_’n with Mr. Raub that you have spoken of? A. It was a similar conversation to the one that I had with Mr. Raw. He asked me what I thought of the situation and 1 simply told him about the same thing. And, in fact, I presume that most of the members have talked with different ones about the situatio: hat is a common occurrence to ask: ‘““Well, how are things to-day?” Jor ““What do you think of the outcome?"” Q. I am asking now particularly of that conversation. A. Well, a similar conversation. This is the extent of any conversation that I hayve had with any one. Q. Well, calling your mind directly to this conversation with Mr. Raub, if you can remember it, state what that conver- sation with Mr. Raub, if you can remem- ber it, state what that conversation was. A. Well, I remember remarking to him that it looked as though it would be a deadlock—possibly for some time, maybe a month— and I thought in the end why who ever Colonel Burns threw his strength to would be elected Senator in my judgment. That is all. . Did_you lay before him the basis of your\gudgment in that respect? A. No, I do not know as I did. I ao not remember saying anything further about it. Q. What reply did he make to you in that regard? A. He seemed to think, as most outsid- ers have thought, that it would be the same as I had said; it looked that way, at least. Q. Did the question of patronage arise in that convention between you and Mr. Raub? 3. giod' sir. ¥ E you have any communicati with Mr. Raub concerning the matter ‘%’; pa(ronngex directly or indirectly? Sir. . No, sir. Q. By yourself or by an ytx:r!;é‘ ‘ e y y agent of - No, sir. In fact, I know nothi about the patronage and I hadn’t any é‘rllxE thurl% to say so either. Q. Well, we are not inquiring now into {gurha\é}!‘};:flty We t?re ?im% inquiring as whe ou mentione M hather v that matter at 8' T th . s that the only conversation = cerning the Senatorial situation thatcy%lu have had with Mr. Raub since the Legis- lnkur%}Pegn? its sessmn;{ . The-only conversation of an; It is possibie that I passed him 3’5'%‘5 street, and he sald “No change” or “‘dead- lock,” or something like that, but no oon- versation of any length or of any conse. uence at all; nothing only just passing the time of day, something like that, . DldMyou at any time after the elec- gfi: 10‘; fl.nry gaub to thi Afisembly advise anner as to hi SeAnaF)rial Question? D e Q. Wil you kindly state to_this com- mittee what that advice was? i his votes, wherever they went, i{f they went in a body, would probably be suffi- cient to elect the man. Q. Would be decisive of the question? A. Yes, sir. For that matter, if Mr. Grant's votes should go the same way, probably they would. Q. Did you say so to him? A. I do not recall. I do not think I did. I do not think I mentioned anythingabout Grant’s votes. . Now, do you recall any other legis- lator with whom you have had any con- versation concerning the Senatorial situ- ation? A. Not any conversation, but simply a assing. I remember of meeting Senator gflnrehouss down on K street in front of Hale's store and jokingly mentioned about getting on the winn!ng side, or something of that kind. I did not men- tion any names and he said that he was for Barnes, and I said that Barnes—Gen- eral Barnes—was an ideal Senator. That was the extent of the conversation as [ passed by. Both of us were laughing at the conversation, Q. Have you held up before any legis- lator the chances of patronage as an in- ducement for him_to vote for any can- didate for United States Senator? A. No, sir. Q. Directly or indirectly? A. No, sir. Q. In 'person, by letter, telegraph or telephone message? A. No, sir. I had none to give. I ald not Know of any, either. Q. Do you know, Mr. Brown, of an meretricious inducements having been of- fered to any legislator by any persons with_the purpose of influencing his vote for United States Senator? A. I do not. Q. Can you point this committee to any person, papers or other means whereby they may learn of .any improper .influ- ences brought to bear upon any legisla- tor to induce him to vote for a United States Senator? @ On henaie o . On eha! of any candidate fo United States Senator? 3 A. I cannot. Q. Before the Legislature? A. No, sir. The chairman—Gentlemen of the com- mittee, what further do you wish to ask? Mr. Lardner—The letter that you gave to Mr. Raub or to Mr. Green—was ihat before or after Raub's nomination? A. It was after his election. gA Qflet ';“lk: el?ct]on? . Yes. at letter was given at request of Mr. Green. He asked nos 1‘:“? EncwkMs. Ra\‘lfblnnd llénld him I did, and e asked me woul ve h of introduction to him, © ° MM & letter 1;%111 Jjust wanted to know the date, that A Yes. R CRN T TESTIMONY OF HUGH M. BURKE, Hugh M. Burke, bein; sworn, testified as follows: The chairman—You may s name to the committee. il Hugh M. Burke. What is your residence? San Francisco. And occupation? gewspapsr ma‘zlz. . Connected with what new: ? San Francisco Call A e Do you know Ulysses S. Grant Jr.? Yes; I have a slight acquaintance. Do you know Daniel M. unrns’.’ Very well. Robert N. Bulla? . Yes, sir. 5 Gednernl W. H. L. Barnes? o. . George A. Knight? And ‘the Bh a . An e er candidates, one and all, before this Legislature for the United States Senate? A. Except Thomas Bard. 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