The New York Herald Newspaper, September 29, 1877, Page 3

(present unknown, THE INDIANS. Thief Joseph Going Over the Border to Sitting Bull. HOWARD AND STURGIS JOIN General Terry’s Oommission at Fort Shaw, Montana. THE CHIPPEWAS AROUSED. Murders and Outrages in the ‘Apache Country. Sioux Chiefs in Savage Oostume at the White House. BIG TALKS AT. THE GREAT COUNCIL The White Father Tells Them They Must Prepare to. Move. [x TRLEG@RAPH TO THE HEBALD.) va dianega dens be By Courier to Helena The following despateh from Major liges, which has just been received here by General Gibbon, anvounces the probable escape of Jéseph and hi# €ntire band of Nez Perces, They are prebably makipg straight for the Canada border, actoss which United States troops cannot purstie them, Judgment upon General Howard should nevertheless bé suspended until all the tacts of this terrible stern chase of 1,300 miles aro ascertained. Deapite the projadices of trontiersmen and the ani- * mosity of the press, all my information thas fer shows that he and his tnsuMfcient command have dis- Played energy, courage and endurance which deserved to win the success denied them. THE BITTING BULL COMMISSION. ‘The Sitting Bull Coremission is detained here a few awaiting an escort tothe north, Joseph and bis warriors are expected to join Sitting Bull, or ut least open communication with him immediately. Joseph’s tchievements in fighting and escaping from the brav- eet detachments of the United States army in the Northwest sre not likely to increase Sitting Buli’s respect for the wishes of the United States govern- ment. Following is the despatch ;— THE DNSPATCH. Bau Orrosira Cow Isiaxp, Mont., Sept. 2—8 P.M. Goneral Girton :— 1 arrived here, with thirty-six mounted citizens, " about hall-past six P.M! Below Cow Island,” about one mile away, I met a small boat, with Colonel Clen- donin and four citizene, on the way to the steamer Silver City, which is reported ubove @rant Island. Of theCitizens two are wounded, Waller and Weimar, doth seriously. Tho Nes Porces crossed yesterday noon, and first tried to approach the rifle pits tn a friendly way, but Sergeant Molchert, of Company B, woald not let them approach any nearer than 100 yards, Chief Joseph and the Sergeant shook bands at that distances at sundown last night the Indions commenced the fight from the surrounding hills. The fight lasted till ten o'clock this a. M., whon the In- diaus drew off, going up Cow Creek, in the direction of the pass between Bear Paw and Little Rookies, Ser- geaut Molchert had twelve soldiers and four citizens in the pits. A BOLD DEFENCE, He sayaho fought about 300 warriors,” and there were present about 500 altogether. The Indians tharged the party seven times, and were repulsed mith some loss in killed and wounded. During the Aight the Indians burnt the freight pile, about thirty tons of government property and twonty tons for pri- Vato partios, PRMIGHTBRS IN PERIL. Une citizen train, Cooper’s and Palmer's, left Cow Island on Satarday last, .Wther trains are cn the way from Benton, aud they will perhaps meet with tho Same fate, 1 think that a strong party should be sent down on the road at once, although from the action of the Indians they are getting across the mountains to the Canadian line as fast as possible, They had about one thousand horses with them. I followed their trail nearly ali day, bat only found two abandoned horses, NO OXE Im PURSUIT. There are no soldiers nor Crows after them. I will cross at daylight and get on tn® road with my party to protect wnat I can. Lieutenant Hardin joined mo half an hour ago with twenty-eight enlisted men and a howitzer, 1 would suggest that Captain Wiliams be ordered to stop the trains from coming in this direc- tion for the present. Very respocttully your obedient servant, GUIDE ILGES, CarTAIN L0G4N’8 WIDOW, A despatch reosived bere irom G ‘al MeDowell dncloses a draft for $520 for the widow of the late Uup- tain William Logan, kitled in Colonel Gibbon’s fight with the Nez Perces Augost 9 GENERAL TERRY'S BSCORT. General Terry and the Commissiow expect to leave Fort Shaw tor Canada Monday of Tuesday next. Three companies of the Second cavalry were originally in- sgnded for his escort, but their whereabouts are at It 1# now possible that Lieatenant Derudio’s company of the Seventh cavalry and Capgain Freoinau’s company of the Seventh infantry, now at this post, will go as escort to the Commissioners, and ‘here js @ prospect of an encounter with some ot Joseph’s warriors en route. THER N£Z%Z PERORS’ CAMPAIGN—HOWARD AND STURGIS JOIN THEIR FORCAS. [BY TRLRGRAPH TO THE HERALD. } Camp S. W. Tayion, Messen Sieur River, Sept. 20, by Courier to Bozuman, M. '., \ via Hmnesa, Sept. 2s, 1637. General Howard and Colonel Sturgis held a council to-day and agreed to Join their forces and make one jest push throngh Jadith Basin, either to fight or rive the Nez Percés scroas the Missouri to British Cotmbia, This will not take over ten days, whon the Campaign will end, Alter the fight on the 18th Colonel Sturgis issued the filo Heapqvanrens Sevavta Cavainy, Came Neak Musswt Suit, sept, 19, 1877. OEWRRAL ORDERS. : Having been compeliea, through sheer egal Ly And starvation, to suspend tomporurily the pursnit | Nagetive for hums and privations of this campaign. and to congratulate them upon the saccess which bas crowned their efforts et last. Starting as you did almost at the close of ove campaign you entered on the 10:h of August uponan outirely new one, siice whic time you have marched over 600 miles, crossing rapids, rivers and torrents, climbing precipitate und rugged wuunteiog, many of you ragged avd almost bare-footed, and ali of you much of the time without adequate means of sub- sistence. VARDSHIPS OF INDIAN WaRranr. In five days from the tm to the 12th of September without rations you made 28 miles, about seventy- five of which was over the most rugged mountalus, and after all this yoa started on the mor! f the Ith and made a forced march of reventy -| tiles, overtak- ing the enemy ou the morniug of the 13th, Oghting them until mightfall, killing seventy-six of his warriors aud probubly wounding forty or@fy more, capturing in the vattle and parsuit som eight hundred of horses, driving him from the feild, ana, in short, in- ficting such a severe blow upon hun as will renger bim harmless for # long time to come, ‘4 GUIDE BADLY NEuUED, The Seventh cavalry deserve the glory of captur- tog the enemy entire, and would have dove so if they had had the services of « single guide tamil. jar with the topography of the country in which we were operating, but having failed in this, by almost superhuman efforts they struck bim such a biow as will almost make bim wish he had been captured, Op the arrival of oar provisions we will take the trail once more, and although none ofus are prepared for the cold nights now upon us in the midst of the snow-covered mountains looking coldly upon us, yet the Coloncl commanding calls upou the officers and men, who bave borne their hardships so mapfully thus far, for one more cheerful effort, and it is within the range of possibilities that the glory of capturing the Nez Verces may yet be inscribed on the standard of the Seventh cavalry. The Colonel commanding takes great pride in publishing for the information of his Togiment tho following extract from a letter received | from General @ 0. Howard, an offiver so eminently und justly distinguished during the war of the rebel. hon The General desires me to way for him that you bave douc wonders, and be congratulates you and your command on your success, Very respectiully, your obedient servant, C. &. 8. WOOD, a. A. D, C, By command of Brovet Major Genera! 3. D. Stargis, Colonel’ Seventh Cavai ERNEST A. GARLINGTON, Wirst Lieutenant and Adjuiant Seventh Cavalry. & DISCOURAGING RUMOR. Jopira Basix, Sept. 22, Via Helena, Moutuna, Sopt. 2s, isin. As we proceeded en route through Judith Basin a rumor reached us frem the rear stating that Sturgis’ supply train had been destroyed, and that heavy artillery (ring was heard in the neighborhood of Bull Mountaim on Wednesday. Since then Sturgis’ train has arrived bafely, and the reported artillery. tiring was only a heavy thunder shower, THE CHIPPEWAS AROUSED ON ACOOUNT OF AN _AGENCY QUARREL, (BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HEBALD.] Sr. Paut, Minn., Sept, 28, 1877, Letters from White Earth Agency to Wednesday .vening report imminent danger of bloodshed, Indian Superintendent Kimball baving ordered Father Toma- zip, the Catholic missionary, to leaye the reservation, He finally gave bim one hour iu which to pack up and start, whereapon Father Tomazin, retusing to leave except on the order of ‘his Bishop, took refuge im the church and rung an alarm boil, which brought to bisatd a considerable number of Indians, armed with guns, clubs and farm tools, Then Kimball telegraphed for military aid In response a company of infantry was seot from Fort Suolling Wednesday morning, aud probably arrived at White Earth yesterday, The ili feeling there has been increased by Rov, Mr. Gilfillan, Episcopal missionary, ‘The whites aro circulating a petition asking tho Indian Barcau to re- move from the reservation C, H. Beaulen, an influ. ential balf-breed, who has advised the Indians toask that all the principal partice. to- the quarrel—boing agent Stowe; the priest, Father Tomazin. and Rev. Gilfilan—should be taken away and who has also himself prelerred charges against Stowe, DANORROUS RXCITHMENT, The feeling ran so high that the lives of Stowe and family and Gillian were undoubtedly in danger, but for the influence of Beaulien aud Rev. Mr. Jonosor, Episcopal. The Chippewas are in tavor of peace, VERY MUCH MIXED, Mr. Johnson siies with Beauhior, against his white associate, The presence of the troops will probabiy prevent any outbreak, but it will bo necessary to keep them as long as Stowe remains the agent, aod more troops will be needed to watch the uoruly pillagers of Leech Lake, who will be aroused by tho White Earth occurrences. Kimball's action is thought here to have been unnecessarily arbitrary. HOLB-IN-TUR-DAY'S ORPHANS. The immediate cause of Kimball's order to Father To- Mazin to leave was tho latter’s taking away orphan daughters of Hole-in-the-Day to place them in the Catho- Me school in Stearns county, but Father Tomazin 1s the legal guardian of Hole-in-the-Day’s obildren, who have an estate’ outside of the reservation. Ho has, how- even, taken soveral other children away without the consent of the agent, and meddles beside with the temporal affuirs of the agency. Much anxiety is felt hore regarding the outcome of the affair, MURDERS AND OUTRAGES BY THE APACHES— THE INHABITANTS PREPARING FOR DEFENCE— NECESSITY FOR THE INCREASE OF TROOPS, Sirvex City, N. M., Sept. 13, 1877. After a three years’ comparative quiet pandemo- nium bas broken loose in Eustera Arizona and Western New Mexico, Before this the telegraph has informed you of the Apache outbreak trom the San Carlos reser- vation. But meagre news bas been received here regarding the immediate cause. The outbreak must have occurred last Thursday or Friday, and from 400 to 600 warriors are reported to have le({t tne reserve, besides which they have taken with them squaws and Pappoores, MURDERS BY THE SAVAGES, Along the Gila River, at Kaight’s Ranen and in the Barra Mouatains (near this place), they known to have killed twenty persons, women and children hav- Jug been mercilessly beaten to death with clubs, and some women and children having been carricd off cap- tives, Ranches and trains have been destroyed, und they seem to have scattercd in different bandas, some being | reported gotng northwest into the White Mountuin country, some south inio the Chiricahua Mountains, and others have come by here, evidently steoring tor Chihuahua, Quite jumber of prorpectors are out from hero, aod must have been directly in the path of the savages. Doubtless wany of them ure “taken in.’ Thie, together with about sixty persons lately killed by Apaches about Casas Grandes, in Chihuahua, near the boundary, and some twenty persons killed by thim during the past twelve month# in Southern Arizona, is, Indeed, a terrible lose of human lives, considering low very sparsely this country | tled. §=And what may not now be expected si handreds of those dovils are out on the warpath! PREPARING FOR DEFRNCR. When the news was received here the wildest ex- cilewent prevailed, Arms are scarce, ammunition xourcef, An immediate rash for the stores was mado to buy up the ammunition, Right here where Silver City stauds used to be the home of the notorious Apache chief, Mango Colorado, and a finer country could not be imagiaed by tho fancy of an Indian, Mountalnous, well enouzh watered for Indians, and the country for scores of miles hoavily timbered, it hurts his feelings to find hrmselt driven from it, And 80 the San Carlos reservation, with an extent of one hundred by seventy-five miles, together with govern. Wont rations, can no longer contain the diseontents Indians. ‘They must neod spread must Dave more cibow room, hould mot rest till these pie rol their object now. 1a former times, when they could stent ut killing, they used to do 40, Dut on Lhjs occasion they have suown mainly their blood. ime were buried hore to-day, the townspeople uiening out ¢n massa, Tho others were buried at the soenc of murder, OFFENSIVE OPKRATIONS. ie of the vi A party of about thirty armed citizens have gor from the Clifton (Aria coppor mines to muet tho pave More ‘woo! Sixty moro m her On tho tratl a5 soon as they cam precurearms, Silver City is now every oight by ottisens, asa Sade Se tele erdercte were cheaters eaees here. id were reported seen about three om bere. ‘wo hundred well armed Indians could” work for this town. Te ahow the carelessness of frontier people when they have enjoyed quiet for a couplo of soars, 1 will enly mention Georgetown, twenty-dye miles from here, near the Mimbres River, It is a mining town, containing about 200 people, and hardly, if any, more than twenty serviceable guus. During the day, when wearily alithe men are werkt in the mines, fifiy plucky Indians coulg massacre that town. Louely ranchers aro forced to clin iebtiiatn and cattle, and with tbeir families are fleeing to tho Bearcat settlements. Proapectors are rusbing ip, and everybody feeis dubious about promenadiug this sec- tion tou freely. in fact, at present you might say we are besieged. Word has just come in that Lieuteuaut Kacker, ‘Sixth cavalry (one of the three or tour energetic oficers Arizona uow bas), met yesterday or reign 4 a band of Apaches in the Chirioahua Mountains, and that he - made a permanent treaty with seventeen of the dovils, CONZERENCR OF THE INDIAN DELEGATION AT WASHINGTON. Wasuixetom, Sept. 28, 1877. The conference witn the ludiau delegation was re- sumed this morning as the Executive Mansion in the East Moom. President Hayes, Secretary Seburz and other members of the Cubines, the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, General Crook and other prominent gentlemen were present, The Lodiaus were in full savage costume, The President, addressing them through an interpreter, said he was now ready to hoar the chiofs if they wi: 4 to speak furth Atter « pause Spotted Tali took a seat near the Prosident and spoke as tollows:— SPOTTED TAIL'S TALK, My @nxar Fatusn—I have come to your house to doy with a happy heart. Isee you and shake hands with you with a good beart 1! wish to talk to you about Dusiness, ft ls a good ways to where 1 come from, The country I live in belongs to me and belongs to the government. I havo come to find out whore is the best placo to re- Where | live there is a good deal of talk about my agency. Aline bas been drawn where I am from the Black Hills toward tho Big Horn, 1 don’t under. stand the ling Ali l know is that they are trying to frighten us into this budiness. That’s the way I came to sign the paper that I did (meaning the agreement of last fall), They told me at the time that my great father sent the men there tor the purpose of treating for the country, Mf so I am willing to- treat. They told moa good many pointa not kept upin the old treaty should bo given to us in the new, and said if T signed all 1 wunted would be given according to their promise, They told me then if I did not sign they would send me South, or ucross the Missourt River, Alshough 1 signed without thoir telling me exactly what they wanted I wanted thom to teli me how | was ty live alter I signoa the paper; how many cattle and agricultural implements I was to hat and other things, That is the way they treated me. ‘Ma WUITR MAX'S WAT. | Iknow one thing, it is this Whi white man owns laud he builds a fence round it, and it is his, so long as he doesn’t sell it, That is the way white men live, But your people do not ask ques- tions. You take our lands from us. Before the white man came to us wo hud @ good time in taking care of our property, bus now, us I told you, we cannot do it, Your peoplo make roads and drive away she game, and thus meke us poor and starve us. Tho land was given to us by the Great Spirit, who said we could livo there, but the white people are trying to push us out of the country and whore we can do nuthiwg. You live here, Tho Great Spirit gave you the land. You stay here with all your peowle. That is the way all nations ought fo hve When they have a pleco of land they ought to hold on to itas their own, My great fatuer, 1 cannot read or write, but shouid like to bring my children up like the white people, ‘the country I live1n is mine, love it, This is the rem son why I talk as Ido, When I saw the Commission- ers I did not spoak to them as I s; to you to-day, 1 nover told them I wanted wy provisivns transported to the Missour: River, and I never asked them to send my provisions und agency across the Arkansas, Where I live js the country 1 was brought up io and where 1 still want to live. I wish you would have the roads goaround us, not distarbing our homes, but leave us where wo are. My great father, I came here to let you know what my trouble Is. I am done. ‘Spotted Tail then shook haads with the President. Swift Bear, a Bruié Indian, then advauced and merely said, alluding to Spotted Tall:— “This man and I were raised together. together with one heart and one beliof."” Red Bear and Touca the Cloud, in behalf of the Minneconjous and Saus Arcs, said that whatever Spotted Tail does they will do, White Tail, a Brulé; said to the President :— “Look at me well and remember mo. Tail says my peoplo say.’’ WilaT RED CLOUD TH! Red Cloud took a seat by the President, saying:— “I have been here before, and am here again to see my g! father, My great fs if told me to pick a place for my agency. Belore I returned thero the young ten selected the agency. 1 did not. 1 had poihing © dO wikhit The secoud time the agency was moved over the White River I aid not te!lany one to do so, There bave been two changes in tour years, The ency ought ulways tobe ip one place and held strong. wy people were tovlish, 1 took the white poople tor rascals. 1 do not mean the white peepie bere, but those 1n my country, as I want to be civilizea, I'want to select my Own agency. ‘This I lot you kaow to-day, 1 did what the white people asked we to do, and with Spotted Tail bave kept our people quiet, We want to live among our own ple, I was rawed in my country and know it weil. The foot of the Hills isa good pluce to pat my agency. I did not come hore to beg anything. ‘The Black Hills were mine. them to the Comumusioners, 1 suppose you to decide what you are going to gi and I have come to get i.”” WANTS A GOOD DEAL POR 4 SIMPLE SAYAGR, 1 want three different kinds.oi wagons, such as your We 1 gave opie work with; 1 wantto live that way. 1 Want Brough uod mowing machines, but will not say tor how many people. 1 want cutt I want two mills, One to saw Wood and id corn, 1 know my country well; drop w gram of corn und it will come up taller thau I am. it ts a good cot I want 4 big school house, so my cbildren may to read and write, ‘Tho Catholic priests are good want one of them, Thatagout there—Dr. Irvin—we Row have, and wo want bim to stay there for Big Little Man spoke briefly, suymmg that Red Cloud bad expressed his views. SHARP NOSK, THK GOOD-URARTED, Sharp Nose, au Arapahoe, suid to the President:— My heart is open to you, aud my heart is good. My trwe 18 poor; take pity om them. We waut to be Joined with the Soukes or Shoshones, live new! und Baye only One agent for buth tribes. The large extent of land, and there will be no difficulty in giving us suflicieat space for homea Wo want cows, ploughs, wagons und our annuities aud “grub” sent to us ob our reservations, und to become productive people, We want wuite teachers, good men aod school houses as sun us possible We have one beurt, not two, and only ore tougue, When on Arapahoe gays a thing le meuns it. ‘luke pity on us to-day, W. ny big tribe, but are pow dying ou. We want tho soll for grub, fhe orator ou concluding his speech presented his it father with a pi 4% tobacco poach, she bavorately adorued with The Pro-ident, through the totorpreser, ex- pressed bis thanks for the “pipe of peace.’ GRAY FOX, BK WHITE CHIKe. General Crook or, as the Judians call him, Gray Fox, then remarkea:—Mr. Prosidemt, 1 want to say « jew word® in behalf of these triends of mine wuo have come to see you. I have veenwwith those peopio iu their coupsry tor tbe last two years, bowl im peuce and io war, { have beard what they said to you and koow thut they bave told the truth; that they are sincere; that their hearta are good toward tho whi men, and that they want to live at peace, and | am sutistied that they are sincere in thelr wish to adopt | the ways of the White mam aad require your assiat- ance, All they want is for you tv anderstand their situation and take an interest in them and show then what todo, | know thelr condition and know them ww be poor, and lavk you to take pity on them. If It be possible supply thom with cattle, hogs, sheep and im- | pletweots with winch 10, till the land, an them bow tu do it; “also turnish howes They have told you what they want, apd 1 hope you will do all in your power for them, Duriag the progress of the war it bovame nevessary to divarm Red Cloud’s aud Red Loat's Dan ‘Tow bus made them poor; they are now without They pave behaved well und asswted us in re udditionally entitlod to our co! TRY GREAT FATHKE SPRAKS. The Preside: to vee to work instruct | them sohoul yn rose and addressed the Indians, 'e juterpreted ia the tn ed You have desired to take coun- sel witb me and | have permitted you to come, 1 om glad to see I ed 10 Ww ou oD rd Mr. Will lab spoke por yen your irieads goud tri y glad to gratity ir your own good, Tuere 1 in You aud the white people, which jt @ carried out by both, ‘That understan you should ocoupy it. remuved the Pawnecs to ti give you more room, 1 bave prom: a lood tor your people to eat, The great council tion, the Congress of the United St ro ur chiets and head men peseed, the supplies t Jurpished to you should be delivered you near the Missour: River, This is What 1 wus tol Pa ie what the great council of my nation believed, Bave fuldiled tuat promise. Your supplies have been carried to the Missouri River, and there they ure bow according to our promise, You say tht you do not luke to go to tho Missouri River, Bui your sepplies caunot be taken to any other place belore your people will need them and belure tue cold days of winter come. THEY MUST BE MOVED, If you do not go near the place wuere your supplies are Your people will be hungry and I sbail not be able to give them food. | desire to ao ali for you I can and therefore | waut you to be ip a place this winter where my helping band can reach you. Bur I do not meat that you and your people shall stay uear the Missouri River always. You shail stay there only this winter, When spring comes you Sagem ioe your permanent abode such land on Your reservation as you like best. My agents will aid you i making the selecuou, Your country is large aud there is mucy land where you can cultivate tho soil and raise crops, and where catile can be ied. That land is to be distrivuted euiong you. It is to be sur. voyed and allotted to each family to be its homestead, There your peopie cun build cabive and make homes Jor their fawilies to dwell in, When that land ts sure veyed and allotied, aud your {families have taken pos- sesqion Of it 1 shall ask ibe great council of way nation to give you cows, and oxen and tools with whieh to till the soil, that you may be able to provide for your own econsities. desire you to have schouls for your childreu, #0 that they may be educated to tuke care of themselves and become industrious and prosperous, Uke the cbildren of my ple, I also wish your people to have churches where thoy can worship. I shali epeak a good word lor you to tbo great councii of my uation, that % may grant your people these bevefits, If you ure wise you will heeds my advice. Gawe is fast dis- appearing ftom your country, and you cannot always live as Bupters. Noither can we for all ime provide jor your wants and foed your people and their chil- dren, It you waat to live in security you must do ns the white poople do, You must work and Jearn to produce for yourselves that wuich you need. Cattle and Loes and pioughs will be more useful to you thau* ponies and guns, ‘To be educated so as to khow how to Work und how to wake their own hving, by raising cattle aud tiling the suil, will be better tor your clit dren than hunting butlalo and daucing the war dance, Whea you lovk around you you will see that the white people aro a great muitiude, which you cannot count, Every year this uumber is increased by tar more than the pumbver of ull the red meu in this great land, They cannot be kept away from thu Western country, and year ulter year more of them go. there, Hf you live roaming about without bomes they Will sweep over you like u great flood of waters. To wustain yourselves against (bat food you must have homes iu which you and your fatnilies may perma. nently hive and land on which to raise tbat which is Mecessary to support you. Then you will buve tirm ground to stand upon and the flood will not sweep you away. Lama good triend to you and your people, and as a good Iriend I give you this avawer aud auvi YOR THe ARAPANOKS, Now I will speak a word w the Arapahoes, You desize to go West with your peuple to join the Shoshonvs und live with them us irienus Buy it you go you must provide for your own support, The great council of wy nation bas given me uo money to aid you on your way. If without such aid you will make the journey theu I am willing that you should go, und the agent whom I have seut to the Shoshoues shall algo be the agent for you, You have been good friends to tie White people and I hope will re- Inain so, You all have the bost wishes of my heart Let us live in peace and friendship together, and I will protect you with all the power I have. I heard yesterday morning that forty lodges of the people of Crazy Horse und Lame Deer have gone north. As Jong a8 these people are nortu we do not know our Jvionds from our euvemies among them. It isof the west importaace tuat you should keep all of theso people at the ag. a, ‘Thou | know that your hearts are right. That will make you strong with mo, Ibis impossible for me to let those people go up into tho ‘Yougue River coumtry until we know that they are all our friends, It is neck Ty that all of tue Indians should go down in she direction of the Missouri River to gi ir supplies so as to be reudy early int ho er ond sp 0 select the best lands on White Ri other places on the reservation for cultivation. TUE CONFERENCE During the address the ludiani tho President said to know how to work and gain their own living by rais- and tilling the voll will be beter tor your than bunting budulo and dancing the war The conference hore closed. REPORTKD UNSATISHIED, The delegations will have a tinal conference with the Prosident to-morrow, and wili then present their re- ply to the President's suggestions with regard to their femoval irom their present location, abd it is said ‘hey will ask for some imouifications of the proposi- tons which were submitted to them to-day, TALMAGE'S TALK, BROOKLYN TABERNACLE BRINGING WITH LAUGH- TER—THE PASTOR GIVES HIS VIEWS ON THE JEWISH QUESTION AND ON MORMONISM. Mr, Talmage began last night his series of Friday evening talks on the current topics of the di He prefaced the lecture by saying that he tntonded to speak of everyday topics Just as he thought of them, and then went on to speak of the Hilton-Seligman affair, and also to give bis views on Mormonism, His remarks drew roars of laughter from the congregation, and bursts of applause were frequent, THE JEWISH QUESTIOX, Last summer, said Mr. Talmage, this whole country was ablaze with the question whether Jews ought to be admitted to the Grand Union Hotel, at Saratoga, Now, a Gentile is no better than a Jew; no better in morals—the Gentiles are’ in a vast mujority at sing ‘Sing andin the Tombs; uo better in prudence, in tho profession of the law, in banking, {a military life; no betier a1 wen—Disracli is a Jew. You say they aro unclean “in their Labits and smoke cigars upon the verand: What a charge to be made by this smoking, spitting Gentile nation, Half ef our young men are smoking thom- selves to death, Even ministers of the Gospol smoke, and somo of them smoke themselves into the grave, It is said the Jews are nota cleanly people. I answer that the weak point of the Gentile is not washing too much, I have baptized men by immersion who were. most wofally im lack of physical ablutions, and I Lave been tempted to loave them in tho tank, (Laughter. A Jew on the other band is no bettor than a Gen- tile, There ts a great deal of religious bosh about tho Jews being Gou’s favorite people; they once were, but they are not now, The greatest f and of the ages was co: Corist, J8WS AND GSNTILES EQUAL In Colossians, 11, 11, we find these words:—“ Where nor bere is neither Greck vor Jew, Scythian, bond but all are one in Christ.’ other word. lo and all the other races are, in th Ob, same platiorm ! Roman Catholic blood iu my veins I declare that if the time would come that the humblest Roman Cath- ould be assailed because of bis Wish to worship his own way, there is nota Protestant in the 8 worthy of the name that would not nd march out to the defence of ents, things being so was it right or wrong for the Wutering place hove! to exciude y racer answer that mouvement was ono of mere business policy and not an assault ou auy inan’s religion, If a Roman Cuthohe refuses to sell a Douay Bible to a Prowstant, bas he not the right?) What a grand place this worid will be when every man minds his own business! (Applause). Ii you assatl the law of God ana do an iniquitous thing, theo I have the right to restrain you; but if you ure attending to your own affairs then it Is ‘none of my business, BRIGHAM YOUNG'S DkaTa. Another item of recont interest is the death of the Mormon chieftain, The world 18 to be congratulated for 1t8 deliverance from this burden, His itie was a crime, bis Mormonism was a crime. He received this doctrine trom Joseph Smith, who was a public thief, libertine and sot, You should bave sat in the tomple, as 1 did, and jooked round upon the faces there belore you can judge of the utter brutulization of woman. hood under that system, The Christian religion beau- titles woman, and the bumblest features hight up witn beaming supernatural joy; but the hoot of dishonor bas loft the Mormon women of Cian @ herd of wild api- mals lower than the sheep, or goats, or cows, That Place ea great American Sodom. its walaria bas | cursed tne nation. It has made tNe sacred marriuge Yow tbo jaughing stock of all the anelean, and that system lies there amoung the Sierra Novadas ao un- buried corpse that is poisoning the wir of Christen dom. Who does not know all about the Mountain Meadows massacro and the dostroying unyels and the misdecds of the Inet twegty tive y Aud what has the government ot the United states done? is hag acted 4 most cowardly part in regard monism. in 1449 President Frilmos \ippotnted Brigham ‘bes the polygamous monster, Governor of the Territory. lu 1864.an insuiticiont number of federal soldiers got to Sait Lake City iu timéto ran when the Mormons mobbed tuem. 1u 1866 President Buchunan bent 4,500 troops to put down the riow Sept at tho famo time an seemed to be congratulatory because @ between the United States gi monism, But to pat an oud to th wickedness! the Lutter Duy ~aimts has no! been ove organized eflort, In 1862 Congress passed r titled ‘An act to prohibit polygamy in the and other paris of the United States” ined ugainst yet, NOW Is Tu TINH, Now, my friends—now, at the death of ine Mormon chiettain, is the time for United States goverument to strike, less organimed than they bave they will be. If these Mormons wiil not submit to authority let so mucn of their rich Janda be confiscated for the wants of tho government as Will be suificl organized onse let Salt Lake City pay te rn their vast ‘Temple into an Sheridan after mmense applause.) Givo him troops teach all Utab that m6 too many. I onil upow to pray for the overthro: that side by side with the doc. brothorbood of man may be that of the Mstorbood of womai Let us thank God for our Cbriatian principles and for the sacred name of wifo nd husband and daughter and faher and mother, Perish all freeiovism Mormonism, and Jawiess divorcees, 6; which are today at war with the i Christian home! ‘NEW YORK HERALD, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1877.-WITH SUPPLEMEN®. “POLITICAL The Coming Gathering of the Un- terrified at Albany. SENTIMENTS OF THE DELEGATES ELECTED. —— Press Comments on the Action at Rochester. WORK OF THE VIRGINIA READJUSTERS, fonvansven ines (SY TRLEGRAPE To THE HERALD. Avuany; N. Y¥., Sept. 28, 1877. The indications of a tremondous crowd at the Demos cratic Convention ou Wednesday are already apparent. Warren Leland, of the Delavan, says that two entire floors of the hotel nave been taken by dclegates, and, although he bas plenty of rooms leit, be has deemed it wise to ordér 360 cots for the use of delegates who may not secure rooms, The osher hotels report the samo condition of aflairs, and many private citizons are charged with the maintenance or guests on that occasion. Altogeth it bids fair to be the biggest Convention known in the State for many years. Among those who havo secured rooms at the Dela- van are Horatio Soymour, Allen C. Beach, Daniwi Ma- gone and Senator Kernan, Governor Seymour paid a visit to Governor Robin. 800 this morning and had « long consultation with him, It ts very generally understood that the subject of discussion between the two g men ruluted chielly to the policy or impolicy of nominating the straight old tiékot at the coming Convention. Governor Rob- iuson left his office for lunch soon aiter the conleronce and could not be seen. Governor Seymour was found ata late Lour at the Delavau House, and. sald in sab- Stance that, while he was indtsposed wo speak geuer- ally upon political affairs, he would say that he was strongly in favor of peace, und that he sbould attend the Democratic Convention here next Wednes- day o8 an advocate of ao harmouious State ticket, Ho felt tho extreme importance of clecting a democratic Legislature, beyoud the securing of any personal iuteresis on the State ticket, and after consultation with delegates should Very strenuously oppose uny nomination which might tend to weaken the democracy througout the State. Me deciared bimeelf in full accord with Governor Rov- {nson upon the importance of a democratic Legisiu- tare, OPrORTUNITY FOR TRIUMPH. He and the Governor both believed that an excellent opportunity was now afforded the democracy tor 4 tri- umph in that regard which should aot lightly thrown away, Harmony iu council was alone nece: sary; old feuds should be closed up and ended, and the bo Conveution should be exercised. apportioument of the State ai alone, and no personal interests way of It. Roa Stand in The Goveruor been suffering somowhat in health lately, but looks exceedingly well, and thinks that he ye certainly be here at the Convention on Wednes- ay. DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES, The following delegates to the Albany Convention were elected in this city last evening :— ‘TAMMANY. Fourth District. —Delegates—James McBarne, James B Mulry and Thomas Shiels, Alternates—John Gal- vin, John Henry McCurtuy aad Willtam Corrigan. Filth District,—Delegates, Henry A, Gumbieton, Edwin R. Meude and Poter Mitcholl. Alternates— ‘Thomas Bogan, Poter A. Crawiord and Amos J. Cum- mings, Seventh District, —Dolegates—-Peter P. Olney, Vio- cent C. King aud Horatio M. Twombley, Alierautes, Edwin Dew, Smith E. Lane and Joseph F, Lawrence, Nineteenth District,—Dolegates—Tliomas O'Calla- ghun, Thomas Duolap, Thomas ©. E. Ecclesine. Altornates—David L. Bakor, P. F. Maginn, Benjamin P, bairclald, Twentieth District.—Delegates—R. P. Flower, Will- jam H. Qaiveey and Ambrose Monoil. Alternates— Matthew Nesbitt, Henry Stiner uud James J, Cotley. ANTI-TAMMANY, Firat Distriet Ml. C. Murphy, Amos J. Cummings, Morris Stack. Alternates—Michael Halpine, Kdward Broderick, Dennis Crowley, Fitth District,—Gershon Coben, William J. Key Stephen J. Turnbull. Alternates—Jobn Purceil, bard Ranit and Charles Velbinger. os-—Henry E. Lynch, August Klemman, Micact Healy. Alternates—Morris A.gDo Vreos, Joho Millen, Michael Jon —Joukens Van Schaick, id John H. Whitmore, Alternates-- Henry G, McKvoy, William E. A. Bird and Daniel Mo- Cabe. Ninth District, —Ds ‘tes—Henry Adams, Timothy Shea and Edward u, Jr. Alternntes—Williawm &. Allen, Wiliam H Wiikti aud John R. Corris. —Delegatos—Josoph P. Strack, Thomas lm Campbell Alternates—Johao , Joho Clark aod Charles Engelhardt. bh District.—Delegatos—Jonn G. Hyatt, Jobn Franz and Beroard Crogan. Alternates—George sk, P. J. Hart and G. T. Spring: I, Jr. ig! th District, —Delegates—James O'srien, Dr. G. H. Magausand W. D. Shields. Alternates—Jero- intuh Murphy, H. M Schofield and John White, ‘The rogular democrats tn Kings county last evening elected the following delegates to the State Conven- +. tion:— First District.—Kdgar M. Quilon, Hugh McLaughlin and James Dillon. Secund District.—Willlam Van Anden, Hugh Mc- Lauablio and Joho Pyburn, Fourth District.—J. J. Belgan, M. J. Bennett and Jobu Greone. Fifth District —Thomas M, Riely, P. J. Doyle and J. F, Prorce, bth Vistrict—Jumes Langan, John 8. Douglas and Goorge G. Browne. Ninth District.—Brewster Kissam, Robert Furey and Michael Finnegan. ‘The delegates from Suffolk county, Long Islana, are Heury K Reeves, theodore W. Smith and Jonn R. ates—Charies E, Roe, Gilbert H. Cooper Seudder. Warkrrowy, N. « Sept 28, 1877. The following aro the deiegat om ewis unty to the Democratic State Convention:—D. CG West, G. Gould ana J, C, Otis. MontIcKLLO, N. ¥., Sept 28, 1877. The Sullivan County Democratic Convention to-day _ elected the fotlowing delegates to the State Con | tlon:—George W. Rockwell, 1. A. Niven Bee! Tho Convention pass ‘esoiutiun tadorsing Governor Robinson and 1 ot James Mackio, of Dutel unty, for Sta ‘Tho delegates tavor a new ticket, Coorgrstows, N. ¥. The following have beou chosen as delegat Democratic State Conveution:—Samuel M, 8! rritt and Samnol With instructions ag to palicy. Warentows, N. Y., Sept, 28, 1777. The First Assembly District Democratic Conven- tion, Jefferson county, to-day clected Hon, Alien C. Beach, Levi H. Brown and G, B,R, Whipple as State delegates, Resolutions tn favor of 4 new tickot and Allen ©. Beach ‘or Secretary of State were unanimously | passed, Osweuo, N. ¥., Sep 28, 1877. | ‘The Second district of Oswego county ronds G. G. Braed, D. L. Wood and Felix Rice to the Democratic State Convention, They tavor Slate ticket, 7 Rocunstar, N. Y. pt 23, 187 The following are the delegates to the Democ } State Convention irom the Second district of Mon- roe:—William H. Tracy, Frederick Cook and Goorge , Raines, They were instructed to vote for Mr. Raimes | or Attorney General, REPUBLICAN RATIFICATION Tae Jobn H, Brady branch of the Filth Assembly District Republican Association, which recently split from the regular organization, of which Austio Leake ie president, held the frst ratification meewng of the campaign in Frank's Hull, No, 123 West Houston street, lust evening. A large crowd was in attendance. Resolutions were adopied wupporting the policy of tho administration, demand. dug w change of State wnd cliy oifictuls, favoring civil service reiorin and judorsing the candidates nomivated by the Rochester Convention, Addresees were do- d by General Leigh, H. Mathews, of Washington ratty; George A. Schuefer and John Freeman The Unity Club of the Eighth ward, which bout HIXty colored men, atiended tho mect- ing, or is was Over they paraded through the streets of the Kighth ward, JUDICIARY CONVENTION, The Judiciary Convention delegation clected in Kings county last night is composed as follow: First Distriot,—Heury J. Culien, “a, District.—Jobn A, Bergen and John 0, Me- ire. Third District,—No return, Fourth District —W. K, Osborne and Gus. Zimmer. man, Fifth DistricuJerre Wormberg and D, T. Lyach, Sixth Disirict,—Adjourned uatil to-night, Sevoath District. —Adjour sed until to-ught Bighth Distrtot.—William MeTyle, Ninth District, James Gray, VIRGINIA POLITICS. (BY TELEGRAPH TO THR WERALD.} Harnigpsuvna, Sept. 28, 1877. The movement looking to the substitution of another candidate for Lie! ant Governor of Virginia ia liea, of General James A. Waiker, tho regular nominee of Lapon them, ; affect their fidelity, | Committee of ; Conventio 3 the conservative party, is spreading with great rapidity througbeut the State. The frst organised action was the resolution agreed to in the public meeting held ia this fown on last Saturday. Since that bg oy aumber of Jeading jouruals tm different parts of the State la- yorable to a readjustment of the State debt have come out tm favor of Coleone! RK, A. Richerdson, of Wytne county, for Lieutenant Governor. The people seem determined to press the debt issae to # popular decision, Colonel Richardson being @ pro- nowaced readjuster. OPINIONS OF THX PRESS OF BOTH PARTIZG ON 17S BESULTS—WILL 1f HASTEN THE END OF ‘THE ORGANIZATION ? Usiea (N. Y¥.) Herald:—“The republicans of New York will not let the blunders of this Convention ‘They will staud by their convic~ tons, by their administration, by their party, and the way to do that is 1© sustain the candidates pat im pomination by the party. A year bence those who ob- struct pacification, who still adhere to tne machine, will leard their error, and doubtless be converted from it, The Ss gn ye party will engure aod will, renew its stromgth and continue ite usefulness,” | ‘Troy (N. Y.) Times;—"The platform on the whole u crimipate iudorwement of all the acts of the existing administration. Butwe do not anticipate avy serious disaffection in tugs quarter. There is certainly nothing 1m the declarations of the Vonveation: that can be con- Strued as indicating hostility toward she President or his Cabinet, If effence there be it will.arise from the reticouce observed rather (ban any direct expression of approval ur disapproval But reasonable men should be able to sce that the time bay nvt arrived when the specific course adupted by tho Prosident rpspect Tetormation of the civil service oan be judged upon ite merits, lis eflects remain to be developed. Republe cans are not universally prepared to say that their brethren, who have been deemed worthy by this and procediug administrations to hold poaitions of respou- sibility aud trast under the government, ought w be excluded from privileges which are eujoyeu by all otber citizens of the Republic. By usderting the afirmative of that proposition the Convention would most certainly Lave Caused great dissatisiection, amounting, perbaps, ia some Cases, to actual revolt. It was very clear irom ihe rst that the prevaiting sentiment of the Couveution was against taking such w tisk. Nobody bad @ rigutto demand that ap incom. plete aud douvtiul experiment should be uccepted by the republican party of tbe great State of New York at a Guulity whieh wast be aubered to, bo matter whale the iuiure might vring forih, The Conveotion did wisely aud well in refusing to comutit itself in that direction. 1s did not ovject bo reform of sue civil ser. vice, Ua tbe contrary the platiorm ouUiaes a pian by means of which the desired eud iway be attained without doing jojustice of depriving anybody of bid rights a8 a chizen. Syracuse (N. ¥.) Journal:—*‘As to the genera; impression produced by tne proceedings of yem terday it should be noted that in so far us they, may seem in abdywise obstructive to the great work in which the whole country ts primarily ioter- ested—the promotion of its businesy aod material prosperity aud the necessary conciliation of the sucial und political relations of all sections of the country | they do not represent the dominant feeling ani pur- pose of tue republican party. Pol!tielans and ofce hoiders who regard simply the spoils and their per inworesis muy seek to keep vilive the issues that Lave so long estrauged those in the country who ought to be orethren iu deed as well asin name; they may or cige aud harass the aduntistration iu its enor ve fenniuily promote the practical workings of ibe pri weipies Lo which ail repaviicuns protess devotion, but Wey Cannot conceai facts patont to the datlvst miad, that progress is really making under the admiuistra- ton of Prosident Hayes; tpat in all sections of the country people’s minds are turning away (rum the secondary consid jon of Falitics, aud are look. ing alter the material inloresis of the vountry, its agri- Culture. ite industries aug ite Counces; tied as an io- evitable result the times are improving, busuess is re Viving, trade is icreusing, mouey is moving, @ de- reciuied currency is giving place to boaest ovin; in De, that petty personal intvresis are being sabord)- pated to the general welfare, Lhese are syubborn lacts that the people clearly sce and understand, aud wo havo only to regret ibat the great republican leaders of Now York, in the convenuion yesteruay, did aut both evines the wisdotn and loresight to magaify these facta aud give vuice to the republican sentiment of the State, which, in truth, does approve them, and does cordially sustwa the administration in its eflorts to promoie theu. ”? ¢ Bostun (Masa) Trdnscript:—“If the Conkling Com vention really ropresomied the republicanism of New York that repablicaoism is of a type which the re publican purty of Massdvhusetts disowns and re pudiates, if party foulty requires a resulution to be voted down—as it was by that Convention—stating thatthe ‘lawiul title of Rutheriord B, Hayes to the Presidency is us clear and perfect as that of George Washington,’ then Massachusetts ig outside of the republican party, and there it willcontinue If to be a New York republican in good standing demands op. position to the Presideat’s ifieatory policy, and big eforts to col the ‘evils aud abuses 1b the civil service,’ nothing but the discipline of crushing do feut ‘will suffice to purify the republicanism of tae Em. pire State, and render it tolerable to honest, dix lutorested citizens isewbera Its present spurious re publican doctrines are largely made up o1 apolegies tor and advocacy of former office-hoiding domipatioa in the party which bas thrown the State tuto toe hands of the democrats and reudered tne rale of Tam- many almost impervious to assaul, Thatachieve- ment can be set down to the crodit or discredit of Conklingism.”” THE PRESIDENTS ORDER RUMORED DISOBEDIENCE OF COLLECTOR THOMAS, OF BALTIMORE, AND HIS EMPLOYES—nOoWw CAMPAIGN FUNDS WERE BAISED—STATL MENT OF THE ACCUSED OFFICIAL. [DY TELEGRAPH TO 1HE HERALD. } Battiwone, Sept. 23, 11 A special despatch from Washington, printed tn this morning’s Gazette, intimating that Collector Thomas had boen called upon by President Hayes to explain bis connection with recent political movements bere, caused quite a flutter of excitement at the Custom House ana in republican circles generally. It is 4 g@torious fact that Mr. Thomas aud many of the employ és at the Cusiom House took a very active iuterest in the jate repabitcan primaries nud that on the night precedng the Republican Convention be oo cupied room 77 at the Howard House, where the work of the Convention was fully mapped out io advance of tts asegmbling. NOW PONDS WERE RarseD, A day or two betore the Uonvoniiva met a rumor prevailed quite extonsively that assessments wore to be nade on the to raise funds tor campaign purposes, 77 being made of Mr. ihomas be denied the trath of the rumor, remarking, Lowever, that ben the Executive tho republican party wanted funde for campaign purposes that his owa dd obe felt at perfect dispose of it as be pleased. Wi Kod it he cor tue civil service rule of tue President to mean that no employé could contribute money tor campaign ser- vices, bo said that he did not, apd that employ és could do a8 they pleased, remarking, however, that they assossm: would nob be called upon for i Sabsequeat to this it way ted tout = sub- ripsons Were boing revey privately by tive =«oparty§ «leader, aud that = while no rect assesstiont on employés ther auding that were to Powiuvely the trun but It i generally believed thas of the fund to be raised for campaign purposes the greatcr partofl it will be suvscribed by the government em- ploy ds, the Presideat’s order to the contrary notwith- standing, ‘The lact that Collector Thomas nas been 10 Washington recently and had an interview wita the President prompted the velioi that he bad deen callod upon toexplata bis alleged violations of the otvil ser- view rulea STATEMENT OF COLLECTOR THOMAS, The despatet alluded to above, Conveying an inti. mation of the Pre#ident’s disapproval of Mr. Thomas’ course, Was shown to the latter this event ur. Thomas said it was true that ho had been in Washiou- ton on Wednesday Inst, bat that bis visit was oo vusiness connected with the Treasary Department. It was also trae that while at the ital ho hua called at tho White Howse tor the giprene of paying bis respects to the President. je Was received Very Kindly and the intervi ndiiest characte: throughout was one of the fi declared, however, that he bad no reason to that the President was dissatisded with his connection with the assembling of the lato Republican id (has, 1D peimes af fact, during the conversaty THE PRESIDENTS POLICY INDORSED WargntOws, N. Y., Sept 28, 1977. _ The Republican County Convention of Jeilerson to- day passed resolations strongly indoraing the policy of President Hayes, Aung the resclutiens was the one Mr. Cartas offered at Rocheat RECEPTION TO LIFTLE MAC. Great preparations are minking by tho Newark democracy lor @ grand reception and ratification of Goveral MoClelian on Monday ovening. Messrs, Jona McGregor, Wiluam A. Righter avd Judge F. H, Teese Lot mentio ps the cummittcs on chy. Geyer Wing boom Opposiog vers natorial convention. Taere wil be @ tor rade as well as addreasos. The democracy of a os ie are ‘overdowiog wih euthusinsa, tne sey met name of MoClelina having a moss