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TWEED SPEAKS “I Know Something, but I Won't Tell.” THE WOODIN COMMITTEE. ‘Examination of the “Boss” at Lud- low Street Jail. “I WANT TO GET OUT.” ‘The Alleged Confession a Fiction. Half-past nine vesterday forenoon was the time ap- Pointed by the Senate Commitieo to begin the investi. ation of the charges against Senator Wovdin, Nut wn- Ul balt-past ten, however, the four venerabie sena- tors make theif appearance, and then, shunning the parlor set apart for their use at the Fitth Aveaue Hotel they gathered in a small room up stairs aad bad & eon. ference for haif an hour with closed doors, Thea they Proceeded in hacks to Ludlow Strect Jail, accompanied by their stenographer and the Sergeaut-at-arms of the Senate, Reaching the jail the committee was met by ‘Tweed’s counsel, Mr. John D, Townend, who at ence led them through the iron barred outer door, across the turvkey’s room and aio that uv! the teprisened A tomewhat worn Brussels carpet on the floor, two lounges, 4 lot of chairs covered with hole lands, a small looking glass upon the wail, a piano ia one corner, @ emali centre table coverea with ollcloth ar.) wage with a chirping canary suspended in one of tho two grated windows that looked out into the yard made up the tout ensemble of the apartmont, A pair of gymnastic rings attached vy elastic cords to the casement of the door hinted at ono of the Boss’ recreations, The committce aod the reporters com- pletely filled the litie room. The Sergeant-at-Arme found his services in little demand, as ene of the \ailers guarded tho meana of exit, ln a moment the sommittce bad seated themselves around the table, and were ready for work. They bad but time to Blance around the room and note the particu. laze mentioned when Mr. Townsend, who had fg ‘nto the inner room, emerged, aod with a “Gentlemen, Mr, Tweed!” prosented the ex-Tam- many chief, who followed him, Tho Senators rose from their seats and bowed politely in response to the cordial salutation of Mr. Tweed, who followed his counsel intothe room and took a seat in the circle ground the table. Mr. Townsend, calm and confident, seated himsolf upon a sofa close to his client, ready to Prompt bim as occasion might require, and bowing as he did so to Mr. J, Thomas Spriggs, of Utica, who was present in the capacity of counsel for the accuscd— Senator Woodin. HOW MR. TWEED LOOKED, Tho Boss was keenly eyed by the gentlemen present, many of whom had uot seen him for many years, Ho teomed in excellent health and would hardly be fecognized as the pale, thin, soaesick captive who descended from the deck of the Franklin five months ago. He was attired yesterday in a suit of dark cheviot and worea black neck-tie, His taco was full und ruddy, almost as in tho old days before his “troubles!” began, and his beard bas grown to the Proportions so familiar turough the portraits pub- Ushed at the time of the Ring exposures. Mr. Tweed seemed to de a little bulder than of yore and bis form is a little less rotund, Ashe ea own he pusbed up a pair of silver framed spectacles across his forehead and glanced around at tue re- porters present. A gleam of pleasuro or excitement swept across his features as he did 90, probably caused by their faces recalling the old times when he man- aged the affairs of the county and was the moist con- Spicuous man in New York. “20 WHAT YOU OWE THIS HONOR.”? » Senator Carpenter, chairman of the committee, opened the proceedings by intorming Mr. Tweed of the circumstances under which the committees bad been ‘The Boss” rephed that he weil in- formed on the subject, and bad read the resolution under which the committeo was acting, as it was printed upon the subpwena served upon him on tne preceding day. He expressed bis willingness to testily und seemed tu enjoy tho aflair as a welcome episode in Dis dreary and monotonous existence. Senator Carpen- ter thon administered the usual oath, which Mr. Tweed took with upliited hand. lo reply to the questions of Senator Carpenter he then said that he was filty-tour years old; had been State Senator in 1 "69, °70 fod ‘71, and wus acquainted with Senator W. bh, Woudin, whom met in the Senate in 1870. He Btated that he bad seen the articlo in the World of the Lith inst, purporting to be a summary of a confessiun made by him. Sena Carpenter asked whether Mr, Tweed bud furnished the whole or any part of that article; Mr. Tweed replied tnat he would vot answer the question in that form, but would unswer with a written statement which be had prepared and which he thereupon hanged to tho committee, Alter some consultation ‘with the other members Senator Carpenter suid that Tweed had consented to testily had better orally. Mr, Tweed replied that he must decline wer otherwise thun by the statement prepared, Townsend dociared the statement to be germane tu the questions and that he must deciino to permit bis chent to make avy other answer, Thereupon Mr, ‘Tweed read aloud rapialy and tn a cloar voice the state- ment, as follows :— MR. TWRED'S DENIAL, I did not xive nor did I authorize any one to give to the World the statement which appeured in its columns of the {sth inst, aud [disavow all responsibility fur it, [desire to show my re: ‘eut your honorable committee with court joe to mysell tions which reter or auy part | f shen, not furnished vy @ has not been ats ve, while respectfully de- ‘you letter written und for- fh inst. by iny counsel, John D. townsend, fos member of your committee in roply to a to Mr. Townsend of « prior date, und which cov and in detail the reasons tor wy so declining to uni tion to your honoravie committec by the Honor toe Benate, WILLIAM M. TWEED, APRIL 21, 1877. Mr. Tweed then read for the committee the letter of Mr. Townsend reterred to:— 4 LETTSR FROM MR. TOWNSEND, Nuw Youx, April 19, 1877. My Dean Mr. Spracuse—In reply to your telegram asking ether my client, Mr. will subinit volune mitiee relating to the suvject to which you reter, Jo me I believe Mr. Twer which, under certain cv: ‘of publication. + xcept has not confided the stat nt ts willing shoaid T nave deemed it advisable rests to put the saine in form nud suomit it to the Attorney Gienerul of this Stute for his consiueration, and as 1 believe he is now « nates cccouertoaee upon 4 course in rogurd to it which will best subserve tho iuteresty of th ple, and his statement was only subsuitted & is assurance that it would be him upd 0 ne wHd Its co: to accede to my, re { can conceive of ho possible advantage that this proposition could be tw the buvlic, because the moral effect of # full publication of it Would'do no ood unless it could effect the punishment of offenders oo the Auination of Mr. Tweed botore the Atte prepared to move inthe mutt public interests by viving offend Becape or make away with their property, I am ‘Lied to decline to wavise Mr. 1weed tu be w witness at affecting him an examine fire An his speeel befor % Tweed had tostitied in m, It was asserted by Senator @ the Senate on tne 17th ins IS72 vetore committee appointed to investizate charges e Wood. in eltect, “that ly or indirectly, paid ‘or offered of th gistature yy member passage y law." Lf this doavt the correctness of Senator Woodin's He subject, L feel impronsed with the propriety t this time, Assuring you that nothing would give me greater ple re than to see my clignt in w position where be could Vestily on this und kindred Hb gr pect, your obedient servant, TOWNSEND. MR, TWRED 18 KXAMINED, Mr. Tweed’s examination wus then continued. Mr. C nter asked Whether he furnished the statemeut Which appeared in the World to any persou wuatever, and by the advice of bis counsel Mr, Tweed declined to unswer the question in toat form, Atter wnother vain attempt to get an answer to the question im that Shape Mr, Carpenter passed on to auother subject, 1 DECLINE TO ANSWER. Q@ Were you personally wcquainted with Mr, Woodin im the Senate? A. | was, sir, There were two political partios represented in the Senate at that timo, sir? A There were two and 1 velunged to the democratic aud Mr. Woodin to the republican pai 1 don't know whether I was what you call intimately acquained with bim; I talked, laugbod and joked with bim, aud talked with him trequenuly 19 the Senate chamber aud lsewhere, Q. Did you ever have any business transactions with bim? A. That | decline to answer, Q Did you band him any money or any valuable Suing, OF band (hem to aby person to be given to Lim? A. That also | degiue tv unswer, for the reasons given Darrow passage into a | Carpenter (hee \urped bis attention wo Mr. AD Barber, The \overrogater spoke of iw as “E.” » }, but Mr, Tweed Ln py af greg ed 18 8 Hite peasantry im t@ tbe mistake, “1 lee stile tun,” bes “You Bave bad bust inte of it | lately, Mn, Tweed," weld Senator Sprague *“l'recious bite the past bee years,” be repued, “but | have | wot yet fot te capactly for enjoyment, and = « my iog - erent deal at mm age.” With cbie remark Mr. Tword leaned tack, aud, wtb Lis apectacies ac rors Lis torobead aad both hands pI tn oy J - gl the perieet picture of joliny ana ood gasure. Mr. Barer, be sad, bad boew Deputy Clerk of Assessments, | to Winch Peston Le Was appomled by Ubares A. Cor | Bel Mr. Tweed bad, Dow ever, retained wim in office for & considerable time Lerver was ia Albany waen the charcer Was beiore the Legisiature, and | ook o8 sel¥e port 1m advocatiug i. Mr, Tweed waa | Soke 1hO ram Series Of questions about Mr. Barber Abd bis Umanerei (ransections that had veen ” the case of Woudia, and he deciived wo answer U for (Be Same Feason — OTR, (hal |b would be agane pubic Sbiise tine ne ee declived answering the same questions wheu put sees Senator James Merce, ot Brookiya, aud Jatmes K King, and assignod Lhe same old reasons, Quick Womn, ta reply to of Senator Mr, Tweed pn Pong mega woul © passed It was aire daced in the . Ie that whats Known as tho Tweed charter? A. I beheve it i i i ; i i é i i tlon there was another before tn 1870-71 called the “Huckleberry usked why 1t was calied so be rephed kouw, “Perbaps season and went out Chateman they put a series of ullegations published about $20,000 check. Mr. Tweed, tor the already given, deciined to answer. said, “to say whether I since the Li of E 4 By i st ) e i z i i iE i Twoed knew of no money ever being ican Senators. . Tweed reiused questions, saying that be remembered nothing about ? : i i : é i & A ae Q Was there a consultation between the and democratic Senators over the try Dill? A. I believe so, and | beard of the Registration bul was part of Teceivea by republican senators tor ¥: charter known a8 the Tweed charter, Q lias Senator Woodin or aay of his agon called on you since you have been Ludivw sat I dectine Sooncens Q. Has any one, withta the past year, spoken to you about his jwbility to be indicied tor his connection pron re in regard to the charter? A. No public official, sir. @. Who do you mean by public official? A, Any person holding office drawing sulary irom the city, State or county. Q. Do you tuclude the members of the Senate and Legislaturo? A. Yes; by public official | mean every gentieman holding any oiticial position at present, (Some misapprehension existed ng several of | these questions, aad the Buss insisted on ving bis auswers corrected on the record. 1 might be raked up, you know, he said, in seven or ten years, aud be mude to read 1D & wron bt Q. Do you include in the term “Gentlemen who were in oftice’”? or members of the Senate ut the time of the charter passing? A. I decline to state with regard to | the Senate; | decline to state whether any or pereons, as alleged, approached ne on the lability of their being indicted tor their connection with the pas- sage of the Tweed charter. Q Was Hogh Hastings in Albany about the time the churter wus passed? A, 1 believe was; 1 boleve his paper, the Commercial A Suge of the charter; I decline tu aa whether [bad apy conversation rogurding the charter wiih him; be was up und dowa there ali the time, Q Have you talked with any persons other than With your counsel as to peed course to be pursued in this savestigation? A. l spoke with my iriends aod family, Q Wien any city officials? A. I deciioe to answer. Q. Mave you stated to any one that you would not Qnswer avy questions to this commitice nibus bill was passed? A. 1 have not; | dectine to answer whether any check for $20,000 was given to Hugh Hastings, Q Did you lend Mr, Hagh Hastings $20,009 to pur- chase bis house? No, sir; | don’t know anything about Mr. Hastings’ private affairs, ] Q Li such a check was given to Mr, Hastings would | you know what it was intenued fort A. I decline wo answer; I ectine to answer wuether | employed HMas- tiugs for legislative purposes, Sepator Schooumaker—Mr, Tweed, you have stated in this examination that you huve @ stuteweut in the hands of the Attorney General, Dia you m pre mm yoursell in the first instance to muav such @ i uP Yweed—Well, shortly after my arrival—I sup- pose this is a kind of story—the day alter my arrive: comimunicaed with Mr, Townsend aud asked tim to call upon me; my family saw uim and asked bim, the next day be aid 80; | thea told him that a fret wine had bad an interview with Mr. thought | might bo able to wnake un arrangem telling all 1 kuew and giving up once more a tree man; Mr, luwnsend advised me bo | ursue that course; sume ten days jotier to Mr. U'Couur—w copy of Just now in the handy of one of the committee—dated December 6, which lett ubuerstood wax to be handed to tho Attorney General; Sr, Fairchild after. | vy Il 4 bad wud become wara camo here to see me in = counees | tion with Mr. Wheeler TH. Pecktum, and they desired 1 should tabulate whi: I bad to say, what | was willing to prove, what I could baud it to my counsel, Mr, ‘Townsend, to submitted to then is, L think, wi ary or im the jatter part ot January tn this paper was comme had any books, Vouchers oF papers of taine—some in this city, some in other States and others out of the | country eotirely—and on them I prepared the states meut; [ furnished the material, Mr. Towbsend | put i inform for me, and the language was agreed on between us, With the distines uadersiand> ing that ho person in the world was to know Whal Was 10 It Ubiess It should be used for the benelt of the proseoution, aod Was to be given back to me; 1 did prepare one short statement some weeks ago; it was not sufficient, Attorney Geueral everything hat L could fad vu hima full and thorough know how I possessed i could suggest any matter whieh | bad forgotten | wae | Willing to appear on the witness staud and furnish them | With Whatever other corroburative evidence might be necessary So far a4 Was in my power; algo that | could give bint information 1m a good inany suits aguin: city here for large amounts of mouey; | also told ¢ Attorney General that while | was in confinement here it was impossible sor ine to get to people who had evi+ denco or to Lave people come to me and tld upon | this subject whom I kuew would corroborate mo; Ut paper was prepared aod ta by Mr, Townseud to the Attorney Geveral ov Monday last, the 16th insti; I hever commipicated aay portion of 1 for publication, wor did I autporize the publication of it in any way; it is tho inatler Which wus commenced on the 6th of De- comber, portion of | “1 WANT TO GET ovT.”? Mr, Schoommaker—Weil, Sir. Tweed, bad your o gotiations with Mr, O'Conor, Mr. Peckham ‘and ey Geueral, or uby of them, oF has your state. ment whisk bas been {urmuhed to your counsel, Air. ed; Leent to everybody who | N Townsend, whieb have described, any reference to legislative inaliers as Alanpad wean legislative tneas- ‘ures ut Albany—this session ? Mr. Tweed—None whatever (mournfully), if you mean lor the purpose of affveting legisiation; I only Waut to effect my release; | am like a starting, I wa to get out; 1 have bad of this (with a faint smile aud leantog back in his chair}; | would rather ‘waik out than ve curried out, and | am between the two potuts now; 1 take po mterest in polincs or apy. thing else; 1 want to get out; 1 bave not been ed about I don't T see in vo ation of this way; brome pote moat legislation, exeayt wind ne’ ‘ Mant to set out t have protected others wi Hi ave prot ol nator Bradley—I will ask you, Mr. Tweed, whether the use by the Attorney Geueral of this siate- ment you have referred to depended upon the release ot y {a @ cousideration or coudition? | 4 LITTLE FOGGY. Tho witness did not uvderstand this question, and m reply to it and two others, in which the Senator tried to make bis meaning more clear, he said, “My depended entirely apun whether 1 ive more service to the public at iurge than I could in jail, That ts the arrangement with Mr. O'Uonor, My re- lease depended upon my ability to corroborate tho statements, as 1 understand 1"? > Senator Schoonmaker—The point, Mr. Tweed, is Ubis—whether the Attorney General will bo at liberty to make uso of the statement unless you shouid ve re- ? ir. Tweed—No, sir; unless I am roleased it Js to bo returned to Mr. Townsend, Senator Sprague—Vo you understand that if you are Used as & Witness you ure to bo discharged ¥ Mr. Twoed—That is the understanding; yea, sin. Sepator Carpentor—You said that you were per- fectiy astounded to see the statement published; do 7 ly astounded mean thaty Mr. Tweed—I mean to say I was perfont!: to see this statement published in the puper—th statement, Asleaia betore there muy be some lew facts mm it, Out the most of 16 18 fiction. Seuator Kradiey handed to Mr. Tweed a copy of the letter to Charles O’Conor, in which the ‘Boss’? offered to make 4 /ull_ surrender, and 1 wus identided = letter to which he nad referred in bis testi- JOUN D, TOWNSEND ON THE BTAND. the request of Senator Sprague, Mr. Joho D. ‘nsend was thea ullirmed as a witni Before ything that he knew whicn did not co! Mick with bis duty as counsel to Mr. Tweed. Alter some formal questions Mr. Sprague askea him whether he had pot on the Léth just. uelivered to the Attorney Genera! Alvaoy a paper purporting to be made by Witham M, Tweed. NO CONVRSHION GIVEN TO THK ATTORNEY GENKRAL. . he replied, ‘1 did not; the paper £ de- w Was a statement vot written by Mr, I'weed and ‘bot sigoed by bim, but a statement of facts which was Tepresented ¥ me to the Atwruey General as vesti- pe which Mr. if required by the 1e it, originully contained somo of the matior which 1s contained in the last statement, ‘The last statement which | delivered to the Attorney General o@ Monday last at his vllice in Albany was pre- pont by ine im tue capacity of Mr. Tweed’s counsel, Jui bold it 10 contdence, except vo far as in my it Was necessary to make uso of it before it resched fim, Sepator ogrague—Now before you wont to Albany were the contents of that statement or any of them commusicnted (© any hewspaper or newspaper attacue Mr. Townsend—None whatever; I was an ovject of atiraction tw reporters, but | believe in ao instance did J ever state the contents tu anyone, Senator by vy ern hee] the consents carefully kept 80 a vot to be published? Mr, Towaseud—fbey never leit my house except in My possession uutil | look the cars tor Albany, Beuator Sprague—When you delivered that stato- ment to the Attorucy Goueral what was the ugreement between you wud him ta reierence to making ity con- tents : Mr. Townsend—Wo had a distinct understanding that uBiess Tweed be released trom prisvn and the contents, except tor such purposes as ho chuse to use them, the paper was Lo be roturned to we without any- pe sous Cr except such persons as be (the sepuor § you deliver the starement tate the Geveral? Autorney Mr, Townsend ~1 did, aud | cannot conceive of any Way in whe anybody cise, connected with a nows- or vtherwiee, could get at the conients of the state that there was, lo wy preset Mr. Tweed and mysell, the At- woman—nut taking '@ private secretary, nee portion of i or other person in existence who had meen w Neage; I would like tw stute ais thet my Feason tor suow: ®@ portion of it t—-The Attorney General hever would suggest a move Ree Aad Tweed — that eu thorough descrip. be knew of which bore on saythlag Wher & Tweed pad not faom aw watiae was given totim tm neellor at law pmb fl og buought of; be wa gentieman wi cs Sprague—is be Depator Mr, Towusemu—That | can’t say, sir, TO NOLITUDE AGAIX, ‘This ended the exammation, and Mr. Tweed, who had retired to bis oe} au eXamimation, Low an occasional remark with aod swod exchanging members of the com- 4 OK their overcoats pre- paratory to leaving. As they led out aad left tho Hittle chamber in its customary loneliness tho man | ew York placed ly ands wearily upon bis hips, gazed wistiuily tor 4 moment afier their departing forms, and tn into a chair turned aud found himsell alone coumel, AT THE FIFTH AVEXUE HOTEL ‘There was ap xivus Waiting among the politicians for return of the committee irom Ludlow Street Jail to the Fiftm Avenue Hotel, and it was not until four o'clock that there came relief vo the suspense. Then the lour Senators stepped trom their carriage at tho front entrance, and after a short and burried inter- view with them, word was passea round that the com- mittee had bad Tweed guder exatmioation tor tour hours, aud that be had talued “‘straigot wong’ open weasion. Mr. Hugh Hastings had beon subpwnsed before ine committee fortwo o'clock, aud ex-Senator Winslow, promenaded the corridors of the totei tor over (wo hours, Alter lunebeon the committee met in parlor F, and the first and ouly wikness examined was Mr. Hugh Mastiugs * MR, Hastines’ TeETINONY, Mr, Hastings, in reply to questions vy Senator Car- enter, suid that be was by occupation aa editor aud ublisber of Lhe Commercial Advertiser aud bad veen 60 jor about eight years; had resided in Albany for near 1Orly Years, took ap interest 1 politics and ceedings of the State Legislature lor nearly thirty year Was soquainied with: ator Woedin; kuew bim in the years 1570 and 1871, and generally saw him when be (the wituess) went Lo Albany. ACQUAINTANCE WITH TWEED, ' Y @ Are you acquamied with William M. Tweed? a, Ven, #ir, ry How long have you known him? A. Som ry ve years, y years have your relations Vory Mlmate, pleasant and some exeeptions, var ac- Dee Was Very whituare, @ He A. Piensmntly, | Q Did you take an active interest in the passing of U charier Koows as the 1Weod charter! A. No, sir; nut Au Belive 1OWwrent, Q Did you take an active interest in the proceedings ot the Legiinture curmg that winter? A, In the hiectoral jaw | was — wnterested, as Q Did you go Up ibere ant urge the passing of t Eleetor. ow for the ony of New York? A. Yer, for wwenty-tive years | beve been in Albany tor purpose of looking alter leg siation, THE TWENTY THOCKASD DOLLAR, Q Had you ony trams toe with Tweed in reference to the passage of a bill Gelore the venate? A. @ Did Mr. Tweed, some cays telore oF af Of the Charter, give you aeheck for $20,000 O0't know whether was belore OF aller the pew ong 1 Che enervers 1h was ome Lime WH Lhe «pring ut Ista, What was it tor? A. lt wana thee’ that grow OUL Of UUFiOoRF [Tansuctions, abd Bot Cobuected at ail with begisiation. @. Ded you have any pecuniary Ueneartions that winter wil relerence tw legulawon? A. l bave uo rece teoiton, mr, thar laa @& Ind ve pay you any money oF g:ve You apy check for the payment of Mopey. oF give You any Valuable thing for the purpore vf iiuensing say Semeur? A. 0 , o, Q Did you have any conversation w ence to seustor Woodin aod bs voting A. No, sof, ot that | recetiect, | am qaue sere i dt hot, Q Did you receive any money or any other valuable tung trom Mr. Tweed, oF any bady cise, im relerence to menator Wooain's t A Neem @ UF any other money from hum oF from any other . Was bo be dIVIded between yuu Aud Senator Voudun? A. No, af, Q. Have you read the Workd of Apr itt A. air. | bave, Q, Ie there any (ruth im the statement about the check paid w you’ A. The ouiy truth Wah regerd to Wis that he gave Mr. Hastings « check for $20,000, H Was & POPOGR) DUsHess Wansretion, Bubhing to do With /egisiation, Q How does (his compare wih the lacts —-‘ite was jutrosted With the money, abd I was $0 be given to Is that true OF talee A Ot chee amounts; | thiek there from him a8 proceeds of ruck Uramxact oon, Q Were any of these auvounts tor ibe purpose of induenciug any Senator? A No, wr VERY MCCH SUK PKINED, Q Have you any kowwledge that Senator Woodin in any Way received money from anybouy tor We and iuiluence to the Senate? A, | have Bo koow 10 pase thie charter, abd there. tore Lam v prised Wo bear thas aay body Wan to by paid jor passion 1 ‘ NEW YORK HERALD, SUNDAY, APRIL 22, 1877—QUINTUPLE SHEET. BUSINESS RELATIONS WITH PHRER | By Senator Sprague—Wb did these basiness relutions you have spoken of as between yoursel! pul) Mr. Tweed commence? A. | think it was during 180%. Q. How long did that coi time of the Viaduet Corporation, nt, Mr. Jobu Jacob Astor, Mr. jor Johuston and many others whe Were rectors; that was in 1871. } Q. Your business relations were continued wate! t' exporure? A, Yes, sir; our business relations were | / | of so kindly a character that I became Mr. Tweed s bondsman when he asked me. Q What was the nature of your business? A. Stock transactions generally, Q. What transactio: aciive in diflerent partly in stocks, Q. For wuat purpose was the money loaned to you! A, [t was for different transactions, running eit Was making some purchases bere ‘in town; say to bim I wouid like to Luve the account closed ap and ae 6olng to make a purctiase, and | should want A. lwas ana) ere you active in? tapsactions—partly Joaus x A PIPTH AVENUE HOUSR. Q What purchases do you reter to? my house, Q Was it used for the purchase of your house? A. I canuot recollect by whom the check was deliv. ered; it was given to Mr. Van Schaik; he was my banker; | deposited my money with him, as be gave t me seven per cent, and if 1 bad apy money | deposed ab with him, Q Can you find the cheek, or the pass book, and other books connected with the transaction’ A, It you get Sr, Van Schuik be will tell you all about 11, Q. Have you any papers connected with uw? A, No, air. Q Can you testify any more distinctly what you dia with the $20,000? “A. No, sir. Q. How mucu if any ot’ this $20,000 was devoted to the purchase of your house? A. I could’ not swear | ‘that uny of it wag ured lor that purpose, | Q Who did you purchase itoty A. Mr. MeKimb. | Q Where does he live’ A, He went to Europe shortly alter the purchase and I don’t know that be | bas revurned. Q What was bis business? A, I don’t know; Mr. Ludiow was bis agent. ; Do you remember how much you paid for this house? “A. 1 think that is pryimg into iny afuirs; I have sworn here that none of tm was used for aby purpose connected with the Senate or Legislation; 1 have sworn positively that 1t was not, Senator Sprague—I do not wish to be offensive, but if that is coudrmed by the circumstances of the cuse it will bo all the more satisfactory. A, But] want to | know how far this is to go, | Q. Did avy of this go toward tho purchase’ money of your house’ A. I. went toward paying devts, SENATOR WOODIN AND THE CHARTER, By Senator Bradley—Did you, while 1 Albany, during the sitting of the Legislature, in 1870, express | your views astothe Tweed charter? A. lt is most likely that I did, aud to mein bers of the Senate. Q. You are familar and intimate with dir, Woodin? A. Yes, sir, Q Do you recollect expressing your views to him? A. [have no recollection, but 1 wnay, Q During that time were you im communication with Mr, Tweed? A, Yes, I was in communication with him; saw bim ia bis room, or im the Senate Chamber, Q Was this charter bill a between you and Mr, Tweed at that time? gir; L have no doubt we talked ubout it, @ Did you understand trom Mr. ‘Tweed that your desires were in harmony with hig in respect to thut meusure? A. It 1s quite likely. | Q Do you recollect, sir, that you wore told by Mr, Tweed to do anything that was necessury to intluence legislation? A, Lt is quite likely that he did. Q. Did he ask you tv use your influence in that direce tion? A. My sympathies were in the direction of the passing of tue charter; L have no doubt that I thought AL Was tho best thing to bo done, rot in harmony generally with Mr, A, Not ordinarily, sit; uo, sir, | @ Bo you recollect that you’ and Mr, Tweed nad a | conversation about Senator Woodin in relerence to this vi? A. No, wir, Q Did Mr. Tweed say to youor you to him that | Senator Woudin's tutluence was tv be secured for this bul? A. [have no recollection of it, sir. Q Mr. Woodta was a prumipent member of the Sen- vas he not? A, Nomore than Seuator Bradley A, Purchasing bjeot of conversation A. Yes, ts, @, Were you requested by anybody to use your in- fluence upon Senatur Woodin to aid in this matter? A. L think not; | am quite sure | was not. Did you understand, duriug the progress of that bill through the Legislature, that muney Was useu to iniiuence members of tne Legislature’ a. There wus the same tulk them that thero bas been for the last twenty-iive or thirty years that mouey was used tor of agaiust the bill; personally 1 know nothing of any money being used lor the passage of the carter. Q Did you learn from Mr. tweed that sueh moneys wore beimy used’ A, | bad no conversation with bun as to any money used. Q Did Mr, Tweed support the Registry law you have Spoken ot? A. | believe that he aid. Q Did not the democrats generally support? A. My recollection 6 that the democruts generally voted against it, A POOL FOR PASSING THE CHARTER. By Senator Schoonmaker:-— Q. Had you ony knowledge at the time the Tweed | charter was in the Legislature that “a pool,” as it was calied, was wade up in New York in reierence to its | passage! A. No, sir; 1 wave uo recollection. Q bia you ever hear anything about? A, I have hoard many things toat I don’t remember, Q. Are you wilitng to Swear that you did not bear of | this pool A. | bave no recollection. WAS THK CHECK A LOAN? Q@ Lunderstaad you to say that the $20,000 check was part ofaioan, A. Yes, sir. Q How much of 1t was @ loan? A, L cannot state distinctly. Q. Can you state in a general way? A. I think in the meiglivorhood of some $10,000 or $12,000 was a Joan, Q Aro you able to state that it was not a loan? A. 14 was not ail a loan, Q Did you give any obligations for the loan? A. No, sir; tb one of my reasuus tor gomg on Mr. Tweed’s bond; be had been a good triea to Q. Did you ever repay the loan? A. Ye: q. Dia you make way account or entry on any book with respect to this loan? A. Nobouy who koows anything about my business knows that I have never kept any personal accounts in one sbupe or the other; look in ny books 10 Albany or bere, aud you will tind that | have uot kept aby personal acconnt, Q What was the meimoranaum you made? A, Ap ordinary memorandum, kept in my wall Q@ Have you that memoranium’ A. No, sir, Q You repaid this loan to Mr. Tweea? How were | your payments muuo? A, In money; there might ve some smuil checks. @ Did you ever have ao adjustment or settlement of you account with Mr, Tweed? A. Yes, sir, | Q@ Did Mr. Tweed keep an account? A, 1 don’t know. @ When did you make the last payment? A. I paid him $1,600 io 1871, @. Did you look over any account to ascertain the result? A. No, sir. Q@ How aia he arrive atit?, A. Simply and merely 4 memoranda | had 10 tiny pocket. | Q The checks you received trom Mr, Van Schaik, what bas become of them? A. Destroyed long ago. Q. How many checks have you received frou Mr. | Tweedy A, I dou’s think more than two or tures, Q. Did you receive as many as uve? A, I don't think | cap answer positively. THAT VIFTH AVENUE HOUSE AGAIN. Q What was the price of your Louse ? A. Tdon’t think thas 1s the business of the comm: : Q Was it puton record? A, I suppose is was; twas putin the name of my wite; the deed was given in 1s70, Q What was the valve of the property at that time? A. You bave asked that question im a direct | form and [ bave deciined to answer it; now you are asking 1610 an indirect form, and Ido not think it is the busivess of the committee, or of anybody, to kuow what | paid for my bouse. @. Was it a business transaction with dr, Tweed tho Purchasing of tho Fifth avenue house’ A, He had no more vo do with ib than you had, MK. UAKVOUR INTRODUCED, @ Are you wequainted with a person of the name of | D. Barbour? A, Yes, sir; 1 have known him a good y years, | @ thea you any conversation with bim during the | Legisiature of 1870 and ISTLY AL Limight have had. | @ Had you any conversation wih bin in reterence | to the passing of he Tweed charer? A. I may have had. @. What was Mr Barbour’s business at the Logisla- tA. Ldon't know positively, Wo reputed to be? rlain interests, ted to be a lobbyist? A. Well, A, Ho was reputed @ Aro you aware whether there was or not money placed 10 bis bands for the passage of the Tweed char- ter’ A. Na, sir; L vave nv kuuw ledge. @ Did you have any conversation with him on that | suuject A. No, *tr. @ Dud you have avy conversation with himas to the passing of the cburter? A. 1 cangot recollect that tad Q Po you know of any persou who used money in | avy forw tor the passage Of that bill in the Leyista- | ture? A. 1 40 Hob, wir. | MX, THLDES, @ Dol anderstaua you w etate that Mr. Samuel J. | Tiden was & Mabipulator of repeaters in New York | enty ead State’ A. I did, sir, @ Do you stave that’ ot your own knowledge? A ile Kuew What Was going on in the cuy and Seales Was wcmitted by bimse.t that be was in the reowpt of money trom Williaw M. Tweed; tat money Was used lor Uripging about redults that corrupted the election Of New York wily aud site; | know that he was @ member of «he Democratic Geueral Committee; | i have vo other ke se than that of general port; was exioried trom Mr. biden by Mr. Day Dudley Field that be fecoived $5,000 lor election ex. | penses. | DEALING IN STOCKS, Hy Senator Uradiey—Q Diu you deliver to any member vf the Leguiature auy etecks iu the year 1870? A ied @ @ bid vo any wember of A ab any Wine, @. At the time you received ebecks from Mr, Tweed Was tuere any Understanding us to What dispo- aie OF the ChOwks oF (heir proceeds ? A. So wri the chooks | received Were for my own per. sobal Denelit, and ny other per-ou's vevelit, ADJOURNED use to be purchased any stocks for be Legisiature ww 18iur » No sir, the examination of Mr, Hastings was con- | ex-tenator Winsiow took the witness cuair | 4 bo Ue examined, aud the com It was, bowever, past wiee had agreed in toe | hour, and au udjournmens | Ww kew o'eloek to-morrow morning, when | Mr, Witetww will be caiied, SaLe OF TWEED PROPERTY, At the Long Ieiend City tex sate, on Wednesday c u og to Willem M. id to the erty, ated (m (he Fowrth Word, and the ‘axes, whicu were | bet the Yours 197d aud A974, saounied Wy 8474, | Out, all gavein their allegiance during the course of | Washington via Mobile, | than ordinarily circumspect, | Selves in the most laborious manner to their work, In | lay the | seems to be a very appropriate place to sa ained taithiat to Packard, The thev would endeavor LOUISIANA. | req juterview with Goveruor Nicnolie, Loeutenant Gove nor Wiltz, Spesker Bush und a number of promiment members of the Nicholls Legishuture, to woom they . , | made known, the revuost of ihe | revublesa -U + - | Committee, e@ subjeet was flavorabl, con. Total Break Ypo the Pack | Siaered, aod Goveruor Nieboils, with the’ aavico and consent of bis associates, promptly offered to devote the Govergor's contingent fund to Lbs purpase, Thos tund amounts to between $30,000 and $40,000, and Was appropriated to aid Nicholls in establishing bis ’ ard Government. / = 2 aaaes gorer:iment, This prompt aid to republican emploves MAKING TERMS WI'H THE VICTORS, | Sit,Prorde, or their immediate, He me up of Packard's gov mission seemed to be highly gratified at the | absence of reseutinout ou the part of Nicholls party, Remarkeble Scene in the House and Great THE NICHOLLS LEGISLATURE. New ORLKANS, April 21, 1877. In the Nicholls Legislature to-day J. A, Cage, of the Popular Enthusiasm ——__— Eighth senatorial district, was seated. Mr. Demas re 2ACK yS FUTURE COURS turned to bis seat and explained the causes which le¢ PACKARDS FUTURE COURS | to bis desertion, Messrs. Detarais and Gault, of St ——. Landry; Colo, of St. John; Stmmes and Dickinson, of st James, and Snuer, of Tbera, were sworn in, mak: TELEG! MEBAL neve: ree Returning Board members ta - wg Paap tena -, House. 1 Returning Board inembers w! New Onteans, Apr 21, 187% — | por elected by the Election Commissioners’ Meal order tor the removal of | have resigned their claims. Mr, Murray, Sergeaotat- | Arma of Packard's House, was at Odd Fellows’ Hall this worning, Where, at uoon, about five hundred per- sous gathered in the ‘lobbies and im the street, Some | of the republicans woo went over say they hold the lo-day witnessed the total disruption of the Packard eae Saree io the matter of electing gs Uaked sovernment, but passed olf wiihoat any exciting twel- | MENWERSIL OF THK NICHOLLS HOUSR, dept At the Legislative caucus last night Packard | Mr.’ J. we . Clerk of a eebene House, made ao earnest appeal to them ty sick together, and | ed the commission tho lnliawing. serarest OF pverstip, Which was included in their telegram they adjourned Wik thot intention; but the publica 19 the Preside She total number of General Sberid the troops was received by Geveral Augur this even. 1g. United States Marshal Mikie left here tor Wash. | ington to-night, Hon luis morning Of the order withdrawing the troops bong aap sere —- i" be tater le ed " a ‘ y the Keturn ound is the num rown Convinced even the Host sceptical of the LopelenBness ee ee ine pound is Bs total, 120. Toe of further prolonging the contest. Accordingly ouly about twenty-ciebt or thirty members assembled th: Rx- number of Keturoing Board members iow auswering to the roll call ia SU; Returning Board members dead, 1; number of members eveetod and pot returned by moralng, whe immeditey wens late euamen the Board, but whose opponents have withdrawn Governor Warmoil was elected ebairman, aud after and acknowledged ther — clam 11; number @ short discussion tt Was deeded to make tb elected and now occupying their seaty, but returned tue Board, members best terms possible with the vietorious party, a eek: baee ahewares and & committee Was appointed to wait upon the 3; total number, 120, Num- Nicholls Legistatare, instructed to #ecure the payment day-—Republicuus, 42; dem- —Totat number, 36; present Waketield and Datpont, of the members’ mileage and per diem the salaries of alt repubi the officers of both houses and the pay of the Metro- | The Senate stands—ltepablicaus, 13 ollees | present 0 present. ee re The Civil Ensiueers’ National Convention assembles END OF TUR PACKARD LEOISLATCR This mission was successialiy accomplishea without delay, and by two o'clock the Packard Legislature bad | ceased to exist, At the Nicholls Legisiature tne lack- ard members commenced appearing early, singly aud | in couples, to be sworn in, Up to bult-past two o’elock | over a dozen had thus already taken cheir seats, whea | the cheering crowd in the streets announced the ar- rival of Warmoth and, with a few exceptious, the bulanvo of the rival House, A REMARKALE SCHENK, Their entrance was hailed with loud and prolonged | | here on Monday, 200 are expected, INDIAN SURRENDER, Many welegutes have arrived. About DULL KNIFE'S VILLAGE AT LAST STARVED OUT. Campy Roussos, Neb,, April 21, 1871, Eighty lodges of Cheyennes under Dull Knife and Standing Elx surrendered tu General Crook at clevea A.M. to-day. The village comprises xbout five hun- “dred and lifty persons, eighty-live of whom are fight. ingmen, They turned in 600 ponies, sixty guns und about thirty pistols, They are completely destitute applause from the immense crowd in attendance, and | of al! the necessaries of life, eee - Lihat peng : when their village was destroyed in November last. then ensued one of tho most. remarkable scones ever | Thy hava no lucges, but simpio sboltera of old cane Witnessed in the legislative history of this State. | vuxand skins, very lew blankets and robes and wo Many of the new comers mude speeches, ull couched | covking uleusils. Many are sult sulfering from trozen 1n the most conciliatory and patriotic terms Inevery | [ws fe is surprising Liat they have been able vo | vat so loa duder these cireamstances and their case where acontes:ant ud been seated in place of | doing so proves the fortitude of Ue American Indian r the Packard member the declination was gracetully wer privation and bardship This iy about mye “, | seven hundred and eighty Cheyennes who have sur- mado and im several of rach cases prominent old | pondered here since the let ol January. Latest ad- white citizens gave way lo negroes, invariably intro. | yicos represeut Crazy Horse still on ie way toward ducing them to the House in the most complimentary | this agency. aad Lee aea | manner, For a while 1t looked like a race wilieunium, | ARMY INTELLIGENCE. and it was bard to reulizo that the newly weuded brothers in politics had ever been divided by as inuch asa single hair's breadth, Alter this legisiative love foagt the Legislature of course adjourued, but, as ar- | rangements were mado to call a repablican caucus im- mediately on the Senatorial question, it 1s very evi- dent the harmouy is not destined to be of tong dura, tou, In the Senate Chamber a similar scene was enactod, barring the dramatic effect incident to a |. assembly and a crowded audience, BIDDING THE COMMISSION ADIEU, At half-past four o'clock the Commissioners le‘t the hotel for the depot. A large uumber of citizens called | to bid them adieu, and during the morning they were | officially watted upon by Governor Nichotls and the lead’ng officers of his governmeat. Nothing now re mains of the Packurd governmunt but Mr. Packard, with a small guard of Meiropolitaus and trends | We Gacuvigoator thamedie auataciiael - Whohiave stood: byihins gallantly lo thelast. Skeetere:| Ta to the Con mandiog General, Departinent of Treasurer, Auditor and other officers who bad held | ANGTON, April 21, 1877. By direction of tho Secretary of War the tollowing changes in the stations and duties of officers of thu Medical Department have been made:—surgeon Allred A, Woodhull, relieved irom duty im the Department of the South and ordered to report to the Commanding General, Mitutary Division ot the fie, for assignment to duty in slorum, Assistant Surgeon v ed trom duty tn the Department of the Sout ered to Philadelphia, Pa,, to report by letter upon is arrive to the Surgeon General. Assistant Surgeous J, V, Dehaune and Ezra Woodrufl have been relieved trom duty in the Military Division of the Atlantic and ordered to report for duty to the commanding general, Depurtinent of Texus, Assistant Surgeon Alfred C. Gerard nas been ordered to report 1m person to ihe Commanding General part ‘ota, for assignment to duty. At | ant Surgeon William H. King bas been relieved D ota. ‘The President has aceepted the resignation of Second Lieutenant E, R. Ames, of the Sixth iplantry, CROP PROSPECTS, WHEAT PROMISES AN AUUNDANT HARVEST, EX GOOD FERLIXG ON ALL wRe.> CEPT IN CALIFORNIA, SmicaGe, IL, April 21, 1877. In the grand reunion vo sense of humiliation wat c exnibited by the republicans, nor did the democrats The Times has very full reports irom the great wheat Jnauige in any exhibition of triumph. The best of | BTOWing sections of the Mississippi and Ohio valleys con- fecling everywhere prevails and 4 happicr ending | C¢FBtus the condition of winter wheat from which the could not bave been desired, The Commissioners ure | followmebrict yt ag peer ge A larger pecs than on all sides highly complimented for the admirable visi? ns uoututens laaerecnany manner in which they conducted the negotiations, und orthwest bas bo lears exceps from have not only made hosts of friends for themscives | the grasshoppers, which, it ts thougnt, will be less de- but also for Mr, Hayes, structive (han heretofore, The Kansas tarmors think they bave batched so early that they will not be abio PACKARD’S FUTURE COURSE. As yot Mr. Packard’s future course to await the coming crops. The report which the Times publishes from Califor- Diu 1s to the effect that the average Wheat crop is about will to-morrow or next day issue an address to the | oie million tong, which was the crop of 1874; but vho people of the United States, in which he will be very | prediction for this year ts that pot more t balla severo upon Mr, Hayes, but whether ho will (mmed: | Million tons will be raised, and that the eilects of the ately yield the State House or await the formality of u legal process or order to complete his record is not yet decided upoo. In either event, however, the State hort crop, together with the bad condition of t stock market, will be disastrous to the State, House is certain to be evacuated before Wedoesday. THE ORDER TO GENERAL auGUR, Cuicaco, 1, April 21, 187 ‘The following was sent from the headquarters of the Military Division of the Missouri to General augur .w- day i— the morning, and it is expected that the State House will be delivered over op or before Monday next, Itis not the intention of the Nicholis people to occupy it, bowever, until it has hada thorough overhauling and cleaning. doubtful. He WHEAT AND PEACHES IN THE OHIO VALLEY. Crxerxyatt, Obie, April 21, 187%. ‘The Commercial has advices as to the crop prospects from eighty-six points in Ohio, as follows Wheat—Eight points report fair crops, 49 good, 29 unusually good. % Fitteen report fair crops, 35 good, 5 unusu- |, $1 failure, to Indtana as to wheat, 6 report the Cuicaco, April 21 crop prospect (air, 37 good, 28 unusually good, General C, C, Avacr, New Orleaus, La. , Sto peaches, 11 report a tur crop, 19 good, 6 une sin—By yn of the Lieutemant neral the fol- | usually goud, 36 tailur faiiare, lowing telegraphic order from the General of the Army 18 forwarded ior your action and guidance, Pies port by teiegrapu upon the execution of the orde: Wasnixerox, April 21, 1877, HERIDAN, Commanding the Division of the From 64 points in Kentucky as to wheat, 20 report prospects lair, 34 good, 7 unusually good, 2 taidure of — | partial tatlure, 1 none sown. AS to pouches, 4 report lair crops, 5 good, 53 tatlare, | 2 none raised, From Yl points in Lilinoir, mostly the middie and southern portions of the State, 7 report wheat pros fair, 55 ubusually good, 1 talure, 7 ae sown. 4 to peacher, 10 report fair crops, 27 good, 39 fale ~ | ure, 15 none raised. posted at or in the Now Orleans, to the | eh Copies another copy will be sent teu tT. sienn AN, General, ‘ ACTIONS IN CORN. Battimore, April 21, 1877, The American of this morning says:—The movement in Western coru in this market during the past | chietly speculative, is without 4 precedent. The ag gregate of the week's transactions at ‘Change and alter ‘Change hours, ag far as reported, loot up the enor mogs total of 3,385,000 bushels, taade up as follows:— F 6 Steminer MIXed ut 656, a ode 5 121,800 do. SUCCESS OF THE COMMISSION, New Onteays, April 21, 1877. The commission closed its labors to-day aud leit for ‘The resuits acuieved by they ure more complete than could bave been anticipated. The generul iveling, even among intelligent republi- cans, 18 that these results will be of immeuse aavan- tage to the State, The commission baye been more have devoted the at 53%0 @ GB\¢., chietly at 59 their innumerable interviews with delegations, com- | a t ww uo, May at S8e & ode, chiefly mittees and individuals of both parties they Lave been | Withit the ra Ht oas Gl see, ; 685,000 do. June abdye, chiely at dvye, w6l ye, aud 2 | do. July atovc, The receipts ot Western’ corn largely increased the past Week, aggregaiog Agulust 480,600 tue previous Week, The ships u below those previous week, courteous and patient, It i$ understood that a pud- lic reception was (endered them vy the people of this city, but this was dectined, with thuuks, DENT MAYES!’ ACTION, THR PREME ON PA being 461,498, Dst $00,554 the previous week. The Commenting on the order tor the re stock has largely ibereased, aggregating ut ty 0 State He eg he against 474 the rame day troops trom the viciuity of the State House ihe Simer | 2b ME. again’ Sees saysi—"Mr, Hayes has carried out his policy to a tulier extent than could have been expected, aud with | the culmination of it has secured a forinal and public pledge of support from the Legisiature, Nothing more remains but to clear away the debris and Joundation for @ new structure, This ‘Let us have peace.’ Govervor Packard is still in the St. Lous | Hotel with his police force, ten or a dozen members of | thu Legisiature aud bis personal stad, who remain | thorougnty. With bit to see tue end, Which 18 evidently near, It | Jugbla appeared Seems to be generally understood that the State House will be surrenuered lo the Nicholls authofitves on Moa- era “aay oRIGAN day of Tuesday.” . sda ee BISHOP CORKIGAN pected, a very acti «i port during corn may west few “HYDROPHOBIA. PuiLaveuraia, April 21, 1877. Jobn Kripple died here yesterday of bydropbobia, He was bitten on the thumb about three weeks ago by a dog, but had the wound cauterized, and ¢ heated No iileffects were felt until the begins vek, When the usual symptoms of hydros ith ine result aveve stated, 3 RETURN. This alternoon’s Republican says:—“Nowwithstand- | rR | ing (he waverse dec: i the Preston in ane te | Among the passengers who arrived in the city on the the claims of Loust republicans Governor Vackard | Inman steamship € erin last might from Liver- and (he brave and taithtal men Who surround aud sup. | sorvien Se ‘de port bin bave earned the admiracou ana respect of pack wae: Siabep Correa). CF See eee wil WhO can appreciate true Leroism. Choseu Gov. | this country on the Lith of December last, and by ernor by the votes of a majority of lis fellow-crtizens, | Made an extended tour im Spain aud italy, He w bis class to that nigh office resting oo the same bus ccompanied on bis trip by Father De Cowcilibas, of Which seated the Presideat, Governor Packard has ree | St reey City, Last Olght Pasnar Breaeee, sisted alike the enticoments of personal advancement | Dr. Prendergast, Mr. 1". Parly, Mr. Gibson, Colunet ats of personal danger, and stands tirm to his | Melnerny, Jersey City, and Bisse Vorrgen's and his sopporiers the last representatives | brother George, trom Sewn Hail, 4.) weleowed ofthe republiean party in the South, Unwiting to | Bishop Corrigan bome and accompanied Bim tw bit believe tat desertion would core trom tbat qaurter | heme, Newark, N. J, at a lave hour, which properiy owed support Goveraur Packard has — ARL NUTLS, Patiently waited day by day tor that aid winich, accord ing w bis undersianding of the constituuion of the United States, was unquestionably dav, Failing to re- ceive this wid bis cho.ce now rests between suomisKion to force ani resorting to civil strile, ln such a dilemma there 18 but one choice for patriotic citizens, one of such Governor Packard has always shown The thirty-fourth reception of the Brooklyn Art Associatoin will lake place at the Academy of Muse to-morrow evening. ‘The celebrated collection of paintings and works of ne HOW THE PACKARD OFFICIALS WERE PROVIDED FOR, ort belonging to the late M. Oppenherm wilt be sotd A co ee irom tue Packard Legiviature waited | in Paris, the sale beginning to Upon the commission to-duy und requested their | through the woek. A lew iliustraied catalogaes cum be obtained from Mr, Avery and orders to purchase friendly offices in securing (rom the Nicholls govern- tuay bu sent by cale, Ment some comvensation jor tue Dolimemen and eM