The New York Herald Newspaper, March 1, 1877, Page 3

rs ordered that the House of Representatives be notified thas the Senate ts Gow ready to meet that body for the purpose of receiving the decision of the commis- x Hou and proceed with the ccunt, - Progress Reported in Cow Electoral Vote. ting the THE DEBATE ON SOUTH CAROLINA Adroit Skirmishing of the Extremists for Delay. SPRINGER'S EYE BUNCOMBE-WARD Texas and Tennessee Reached _ and Counted. AN OBJECTION TO VERMONT The Filibusters Refuse to Accept Sollace. THE END NEAR AT HAND An Ail Night Session Avoided by a Compromise. a FROM OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT. Wasuixctox, Feb, 28, 1877. ‘The count has at last got to Vermont, and only three States remato—Virginia, West Virginia and Wisconsin. ‘The South Carolina caso was desperately filibustered all day by afew democrats in the House, who man- aged,asthey have done on previous occasions, to waste the greater part of the day’s session in parlia- mentary motions and discussions upon them, disputes with the Speaker, whom they tried to bully until.bis patience was sovorely tried, and finally, in an adroit scheme, by which they managed to get a vote on amendments to the motion to concur tn the commission’s report. But at this the patience of the House broke down and there was a determina- ‘tion to meet this bullying squarely by sitting all night, if necessary, to proceed with the count, Mr. Wood Presented this alternative to the filibusters, whereupon they surrendered and agreed to go on with business. South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas were, therefore, got out of the way in joint session, between six and seven o'clock, and then Vermont came up and with it a ridiculous scene. A SCENE OVER VERMONT, The Vice Presiaent calling for objections, Mfr. Howitt remarked that what purported to be a second certifl- cate had been sent him by mail. The Vice Prosident said he had received but one, whereupon the inevita- blo Springer, whose voice has got to bea terror anda bore to the House, arose with a paper, which he wildly flung to the breeze, and demanded to have read. The Vice Presidents asked him if it was an objection, but Springer vehemently declined to say what it ‘was; ho wanted it read. The Vice President Femarked that if it was an objection it would » be received; if not, under the law it could not be. Soringer for somo time refused to say what his paper was, out furiously geaticulated, and as be has sound Bangs bo made a good deal of noise. At last be was persuaded by somo friend to own that it was not an objection, but that hewould like to muke it so, and She joint meeting, with extreme good nature, consider- ing the amount of useless and unparliamentary annoy- ance he had inflicted on it, allowed him ten br fifteen minutes to torn his paper into an objection, Thereafter two other objections were olflered, and then Springer, having got his wind back, bogan again demanding that tho Vico President should open Mr. Hewiti’s paper, on the round thas it was acertificate, In the midst of his Aarangue the Senate rose to rotire, and as the:Sena- tors filed out of the yu Springer flung his arms, cyes and legs wildly about, and, for the twentieth time to- day, “‘appeaicd to his country.’? When the Houso did get him modorately subdued it adjourned to ten »’clock to-morrow, when there will be two hours’ de- bate on Vermont, and the count will go on, itis hoped, to its conclusion, JUSTICE TO SPRINGER, It is but just to Springer to say that he is in private life a very wimavie and well intentioned person, and Dis frienus assert that he does not at all want or intend to defeat the completion of the electoral count, zor foes bo drink, But he has a constituency whom he Feveres and desires to please, and all his rude Western | Bloquence to-day and on previous days is intended tor them, Jt ts an exaggerated case of buncombe and not @angerous, but only very monotonous, IN THR SeNATK | In the Senate also there was to-day s weak attempt } Alibustoring vy Messra, Merrimon and Bogy, who fa ated to have the South Carolina documents read, but Mr. Bayard promptly mot them and showed how absurd and contrary to the law was tho proposition, During the two hours debate Mr. McCreery, of Ken- Wucky, restorod the general good nature by ao amusing Speech, in which he remarkod that un average Amori- Can politician can hardly rosist at any timno the oppor- tupity to make a ten minutes’ speech and was not to be deterred even by the knowledge that what he Gald could not bave tho least effect on the question, He declared himself totally unable to express in ten nutes all the disguat and wrath ho felt at this mon- decision of tho commission, but ne had voted the commission and did not mean to evade tho re- Ho oxpected to be denounced it by that largo and knowing class of people who all about it beforehand and expected the sym- iy of all who were unable to seo into tho middie of it week, THY VERMONT ONsECTION. the evening the Senate took up the Vermont ob- and wosnimously and without debato found re was nothing in it. Tho democratic Sena- we Maintained the charaéter and dignity of their of their party by sovoral times uniting with bhicana to vote down trivial objections, EEDINGS OF THE SENATE. Waanttvoton,. Feb, 28, 1877. Senate reassembled at ten o'clock, and the IDENT pro tem, pre: ed the following communi- 8 from the President of the Electoral Commis- je Mug the same, touching the electoral vote: seuth Caroll hb & J transits ‘to a the memvers, agreeing therein to st ihe two houses, according (0 ould net, Ses vapere seus to. the comission Wy the ident of t Renste ore herewith returned. NATHAN OLIF FORD, Prostdeut of the Commission. To Hon, Thomas W. Fauny, Iresident of the Senate. Ga motion of Ms, Cragin, of Now Hampshire, it was NEW ‘YORK HERALD, THURSDAY, MARCH At ve mibutes past eleven a message was received from the House of Represeutatives, that Dedy would be in sess). utes past twenve FP. M., ready to receive the Senate for tho purpose of proceeding with the couut o1 the electoral Vote, ‘The Senate at the last named hour left the chamber for ‘ue Hail of the House of Representatives. © returoing at twenty-ilve minutes to ono P. M., the Punssasr pro tem. announced that the Senate had retired frow the jomt meetiaz upon objections sub- mitted to the decision of the commuassion in the South Carvlina Cape, db ‘The bjections presented in the jomt mocting thou read by the Secretary, Mr. Romursos, (rep.) of 8. C., submitted 4 resolu- fron that the decision of the commission apon tho electors! voue of the State of South Carolina stand as the pe of the Senate, the odjections wade thereto we contrary notwitbstand:n; Mr. Muxaiwox, (dem,) of N.C., submitted a resolu- ton “That it i» competent vo receive testimony to sustain the eoveral exceptions to the decisions of the commission." Mr. Evwusps, (Pep) of Vi. raised the poins of order against the resviution, and argued that the Senute ust Vote either to sustain or reject tho decision of the commision. Mr. Menuimwon argued that his resolution was tn or. der and that it Was incompetent for the two houses of Congress to recommit this whole subject to the com- mission, Mr. Bavanp, (dem.) of Del., said that under the Electoral bul each house of Congress must vote upon (he concurrence OF bon-concurrence in the decision of the commission, He could not vote tur the resolution of bis triend from North Carolina (Mr. Merrimon) be- cause be (Mr. Bayard) beheved that the very evidence which the Senator desired to bring betore the Senate ‘was already belore the Senate, and, im his Judgment, ib ‘was beture the Electoral Comtnission. Several Senators objected to further debate, and, UpoL the question being submitted to the Senate, it was decided that debate Was not in order on the point of order raised by Mr, Edinunds, ‘The Senate then, by 4 Voie of yeas 18, nays 43, sus- tained the point of order of Mr. Kumunds ana decided (hat the resolution of Mr. Merrimon was out of order. Tux VorK, ‘The vote was as follow Yeas—Messrs. Bogy, Cooper, Davis, Baton, Goldthwaite ¥ Johustou, ‘Jones, of Florida, Kelley, Kernan: ere " J Creery, Maxey, Merriinon, Norwoud, Hansom, Saulabury, a Wit! Hace ra— Aillnor ‘ide, Anthony, Batley, Bla cron of Bonusytvania, iifee, Chri wey, Clayton, Conover, Edmunds, ¥ 5 uy ve Dawes, Hoy, Ye Harve: Hitehsock, Howe, lagnil . Junenot dev 14, Logan, McMillan, Slitehell, Morrill, Morton, Oglesby, Paddock, Patterson, Kodertsoh, Sargent, Shuron, sherman, Spencer, ‘Teller, Wadioixh, West, Windom aad Wright—43, Mr. Boar, (dem.) of Mo., moved that the testimony taken in the case of South Carolina be read, Mr. Camknon, (rep.) of Wis., said there was no testi- moby yet im pussessiou of the Bepate, because the committee which visited South Carolina bad uot mado its report, Mr. Logas, (rep.) of Ill, said the Senate bad just Voatimony, und uow He thougnt ts was one and the same thing. ‘The Cuaik notified Senators that debate was not in order, ‘The motion of Mr. Bogy was rejected—yeas 21, nays 41—Messrs, Bayard and Gordon voting with tho republicans 12 the negative, ‘The quoation being on the resolution of Mr. Robert- son, the two hours’ debate allowed under ti commenced ut ten ininutes past one this a 1b was participated in by Messrs, MeCroe: tucky; McDonald, of Indiuna; Saulsvury, ry Eaton, of Conuecticut, and Kernan, of New York, on the democratic side, sod by Messrs. Morton, of In- diana; Logan, of Linois; Sherman, of Obio; Patterson, of South Carolina, and Wadlagh, of New Hampsture, Jor the republicaas, Mit, KERNAN’S REASON. Mr. Kernan, of New York, a meusber of the Electoral Commission, said he voted against counting the vote of South Carolina because certuin prool was offered bo- fore the Eloctora! Commission which, if true, would have shown that there was nut a tree, lection in the State, or in certain parts of it, The rejection of that he believed to be wrong, and therefore he could DOL vote to count the vote of the State, Tuk VOTE, ‘The resolution of Mr. Roburtson that the decision of the commission upon the electoral vote of the State of South Curoima stand as the judgment of she Senate, &o, Was agreed to—yous 39, nays 22—a strict party vote. Messrs. Conkling and Windom, who would have votéd for it, were paired with Messrs. Gordon and Davia, who would have voted against it. ‘The Secretary was directed to potily the House of the action of the Senate and that it was ready to meet the House aud resume the count At a quarter-past six o'clock u inessage was received from the House announcing the action of that body un the South Carolina case, and that tt was mow ready to ineot the Senate to resume the count, The Senate ieft its chamber, and upon returning, at a quurter-past seven o’clock, the President tem, an- nounced that the Senate, having return from the Jjommt meeting of the two houses upon objections sub- mitted to the certiticate of the State of Vermont, such oujections should be read. ae ee ae THK ACTION ON VBRMORZ. The Secretary having read the various objections as presented in tho joint meeting, Mr. Epsunps, of Ver- mont, submitted a resolution that the vote of Henry N. Sollace, ay an elector for the State of Vermont, ve counted with the other electoral votes of thut Stute, the objections thereto to the contfary notwithstanding. Mr. Meeeimox, of North Carolina, who signed the first objection, said ho learned that a dual return had been forwarded to the President of the Senate from the State of Vermont, and, considering the matter ot enough importance to bring velore the Senate, he signed the objoction. It appeared, however, that the other return bad not been delivered to the President of the Senate, und the matter should be inquired into, Mr. CockRr&LL, of Missouri, auoted trom the consti- tution and the Act of 1792, aud argued that under the State of Vermont had ample power to protect bersolf 1 case au elector fuilod to deli avole, He therefore favored the rosolution of Mr. Edmunds, Mr, Evauxps said he would merely call for the yeas and Days on the passage of his resolution, He did aan to dignity their proceeding vy a single wor The revolution of Mr, Edmunds was unanimously agreed to—yeus 47. The Secretary was directed to notify the House of Representatives, and the Senate, at twenty minutes to eight P, M., took a recess until ten o’ciock to-morrow, PROCEEDINGS OF THE HOUSE. Wasuixoros, Feb. 28, 1877. The Speaker laid before the House a communication from Justico Nathan Clifford informing the Hoase that the Electoral Commission had considered and decided the matters submitted to it touching the electoral vote of the Stato of South Curolina, and hud trane- mitted that decision to the President of the Senate, Mr. Arkixs, (dem.)ofTenn., moved a cail of the House, and although the standing vote revealed ti presence of a quorum, the yeas and nays were domanded by Mr. Walling, of Obio, and resulted, yeas, 75, nays, 156. On motion of Mr. Sayuer, (dem.) of Ohio, the Clerk of the House was directed to Inform the Senate that the House would be ready to receive that body in joint convention at ten minutes past twelve o'clock. Mr, Spkinceu, (dom.) of iL, moved that the House proceed to the consideration of tho Sundry Civil Appropriation bill, but the Speaker ruled that uo legis- lative business Was th order except by unauimous cun- went Mr, Hotmay, (dom,) of Ind., then asked and ob- tatned unanimous coveent that the House prucecd to the consideration of that bill. ‘The House agreed to all the amendments adopted ia Cotnmitive of the Whole, and the bill was passed, The hour of tweive’ having arrived, the Speaker ruled that a new legislative day had commenced, Mr. Laman, (dem,) of Miss., asked leave to offer a resolution suspending the rules of the Mouse so as to bring betore the House tor immediate action the Seu. ute Lill extending the tine fur the construction and completion of the Northorn Vucilic Railroad, Mr. Houma, of Indiana, and Mr, Foor, of Iilinois, objected. Mr, Piexi ») of Cal, submitted the report of the Comm won Chineso Immigration. Ordered printed, At ten miuutes past twelve the presenou of the Sen- ale was announced, aud the Seuaturs cutered and toox \ their usual seats, / DILATORY TACTICS, After the Senato hau retired und order had been re. stored Mr. Srxincen, of Lilinois, moved that the Houxe now take a recess wot! ten o'clock to-morrow moru- in ir, Woon, (detn,) of N, ceed with the count, Mr. Spuincer—I object to discassion of the motion. If there is to bo any J want to take w hand in 1 my- Y.—I hoponot, Let Ge pre. self, Mr, Winsow, (rep.) of Iowa, called for the yeas and nays, z The motion for a rocess was rejected—yens 92, nays 0, ‘Tne following hamed members voted yea;— ‘Tue OnsTRUCTIONISTS, Abbott, Forney, Poppleton, Ashe, Frankia, Rea, Jt), Bagley of N.Y. Fuller, Kice, ji ‘Gun Riddle, Hauutiton of Ind, Harisef Ga, Backuor, Hurriy of Vin, Cavel Hartridgo, Caldwell of Ala, Hateber, Swit of Ga, Caldwell of Tenn., Harteaell, Routhard, Garr, Hinks bprinser, Cate, Hooke; Spurks, Cauiiield, Humphries, Bt Clarke of Ky., Hunton, Clarke of Me, = Hurd, Clymer, Jones of Ky.. Cochrane, K iti wa, Gox, Vance of X. C., Culberso Medinhon, Waddell, | Davis, Meade, Walker ot Va, Dibrvil, Mitls, Waiting, Devout, Morison, / ish, Dougins, Mautculer, Warner, Fauikner, O'Brien, Whitt Vuela, Y igi .Fiuley, Phillips of Mo, = Wike~ws. As soon ag the result was anoounced Mr, Sukakury, (dem. ) of ra., and Mr. O’Baimy, (dom.) of Md, rose simultaneously with motions t6 uke « recuss till ball + seven o'cigok to-morrow morning. The SPEAKER Promptly ruled that the motion was ‘Bot in order, and that ‘ould not entertain 1 ¥ appealed irom the decision. Mr. Woop, of New York, moved to lay the appeal the tuble, —The Chair need not entertain Mir, Wu.som, of lows the appeal. The Sveakex—The Chair knows that, but entertams the appeal. T. louse might as well say sow whether she Speaker 1s right or wroug. fi od Sruixgee, of Ilinois—Is mot tho appeal debat- le ‘The SPeaken—It is not, Mr. SPRINGRR—I| desire to give my reasoue for sus- taining my appeal, ‘The Svk4keR—Debate is ust in order on an appeal where the orizinal proposition on which the ruling was made 18 not avbatuble, Mr. O'ISnikn—I rise to a point of ord The Sykakke—Iho peutloman will 6 it. Mr, O'Buirn—I will have to ask the indulgence of the Chair jor a few minutes. ‘the Sreaxen—The Chair will indulge the gentieman any reasonable time, Mr. O'Burxsy—Ibe point which I make ts this:—tbat the motion to take a recess should huve been enter- tained by the Chair. The Sreakkn—Tho Chair decided that point theother day, utd sees no reason now to change his dectsiou. Mr, O'Baigy—l would like to be indulged for uw few minute Mr. Brows, (dem.) of Ky. —I object to debate. Mr. O’Brixx—It is nothing in the way of debate. I have no argument to make. (Laughter and calla to order.) Mr. O'Buixx—Under the Electoral Commission bill either houve may take w recess till wt least ten o'clock to-morrow morning. There is no dispute about that, Now, tt may be that the House bas no desire to uke 80 long & recess, and it may also be (as it 18 Iu this case) what a large majority of this House who are interested in the south Carolina question, desire time tor reflec- tion and consideration, Sir, BRows, of Kentucky (determinedly )—I object to discussion, ‘The Srgaker—The Chair es to know on what Possible ground the appeal en. Mr. Baows—Tho Chuir has decided tho quostion twice and bus announced this morning that be will nut change his decision. Debate is not in order, and I have repeated!y objected, Mr. O'Briew—l must say that tho objection Is Indell- cate and improper—(derisive laughter)—ut this time, when the Chuir himself desires to be heard. The Srxakun--The Chair docs not desire to be heard except m ruling. Mr, Sraixcxn—I trust that gentlemen will not refuse to hear 4 brief statement of the reasons tor the appeal, ‘Tho SreakkR—The gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Brown) objects, Mr. Sexinggn—I appeal to tho gentleman from Ken- tueky to ulluw debaie for at least ten minutes—(loud shouts of “Object” from both sides of the House)—on ® question which 18 to deterinine—(continuous suouts of “Order"’)—whether this great wrong is to be con- sammated, The Sreaksr (using his gavel)—Tte geutieman from Minors ts violating tue rules of the House in iusisting on speaking when objectiva is made, Mr. Sprixckx—L wish the Chair to hear me. The Speake (resolutely)--Lhe Chate will not hear the gentleman, Mr, O'Buiss—Then lot us have the ycasand nave On the motion to imy the appeal un the table. The yeas and bays were ordered and resulted yeas 184, nays 61; 0 tho appeal was laid on the table. cision in the case of South Carolina be ‘Bot sustained, and that the vote be not counted, Mr, WaLLinG, of Ohio, moved to add to the resolu. ton the words, *in contormity with the decision of | Sig Deer a | dases, (dem )of Ky., offered as a substitute vat ne decision be uot concurred in, (rep.) ot Maine, made a pointof order aga’ amendment and the substitute, that under the rat law ihe maim question must be at once put, but the Srnaken overruled it, ‘The question was first put on ordering the main question, and it was six o'clock before tho rei was announced, ATTEMPT AT ComPKOMIsK, While the vote was being taken eiforts were being made by inembers of buch sides to arrive at some basis for @ compromise, because 14 was evident that hours would yet be consumed in yea ana nay votes before the point Of the reassembling of the two houses im joint meeting could be reached. No compromise, however, huving been citeeted, Mr. WALLING, Of Onio, us soon ns result of the vote ordering the main question waa announced, moved to reconsider that vote, Mr. Woon, ot New York, then offered a proposition of compromise, which, at the suggestion of the Speaker, waw reduced to writing, as follows :— we two houses separate, the House then take « :ecess until ten o'clock to-morrow, ‘There was no objection made, and the proposition was ugreed to, Mr, Cocunkaxw’s resolution, tnat the vote of South Carolina be not counted was then adopted, and the Senate was notified THE JOINT CONVENTION. Wasuixetox, Feb, 28, 1877, At ten minutes past twelve o'clock to-day the Sena. tors entered the hall of tho House of Representatives and took their usual places, aud the business of tho Joint convention to count the Electoral vote was re. sumed. ‘The decision of the commission in the case of South Carolina was then read, DECISION OF THR COMMIBEION, }LecrowaL Comminsion, Wasminctox, D, ©., Feb, 27, 1877. To THe PRESIDENT OF THK De: ‘The Electoral Co received certain certiticuses and toral votes trom tions thereto sul it hus duly wet and hus uinjority of # the votes of owen, J. Winsnistt, Thomas B. Johnwn, Timothy UWurley, W. He Nash, Wilson Cook and W. F. Moyers mained iu oh ave of a HI. Chambertain, horeby deciae, votes provided tur by } and that the same w nt. 1 omm: . by w inujorit, decided and ios herehy decide und report th: seven persons first abuve were duly appointed ors in and by the State of south Carolina, MOUND OF THE DECISION, vw ts that It appears upon Mr. Woon, of New York, then moved that the House Proveed to the consideration ot tne decision. Mr, Sueakcey, of Penasylvania—I movo that the House take a recess till Lull-past ten o’cluck to-morrow morping. Tho Spgaker—Tho Chair cannot motion. ‘The Spxaner also romarked that tho decision of the commission hud been taken off by somebody. Sir, SpeixgyR—IL hope it hus b3en taken to some re- mote partand that it will never #e brought buck again. (Laughter,) ‘The paper having been restored, the Clerk wus pro- coeding to read it, When he was interrupted vy M. Srauxagn, of Ulinois, who objected to the action of 1 entertain the the motiou out of order, and that it was the privilege of any member to appeal trom that ruling. The Sprakun—The Chair hus shown great latitude in respect to this subject. ‘The ir, iu tact, was not bound to entertain tho appeal taken by the gentleman from Penosyivania (Mr. Sheakicy), and could have cited former decisions to sustain him in that position, notably ‘a decision madu in 1869, where the then Speaker deciined to entertam an appeal on the well known ground thut where a point of order 18 once decided it cannot be renewad, even though additional reasons may be assigned for it ‘The Chair bas decided thig same point of order twice, but the Chair was desirous that tuo Houso might’ have an Opportunity for the expression of its opimion, Tho Chair bas now decided tu uccordanco with the decision of the House, and for that reason the Chair declines to entertain the motion of the gentieman trom Pean:yl- vania. Mr. O’Brixn—I rise to a parliamentary quostion. (Joering laughter.) 1 doit with due deference to the decision of the Chair, ‘The Srsaxkx—Tho Chair is aware of that. (Laugh- ter. tit. O’Buims—If the motion to take a recess is not in order now, when wiil it be in order? The Spxakuk—Tho Charr, of course, does not know what the mtention of these motious is, but be bag only to 100k at the effect of them. The effect of them, 13 to deiny. He criticises iu no manner whatevor either the intention or motive of any one. Mr. O'BRIEN—No ono on this side of the House de- siros avy deluy, (Loud laughter.) ‘Tho Clerk was aguin proceeding to read the docision of the com:nission when be was again mterrupted by Mr. Springer, wuo insisted that it was the duty of the Chair to entertain apy parliamentary motion submit- ted and to rule upon it, and that it was the privilege of tho House to overrule that decisiun, (Shouts of it down,” “Suut up,” “Order,” &.) Mr. Srrinagn—Standing on my rights I respectfully Sppeul trom the decision of the Chair. The Srkakkx—And tho Cnair declines to entertain the appeal, [Aopen Mr. Sparmckx—Theu I will appeal from the Chair to the People of the coun (shouts of “Ob, sit down’’)—who have clected a resident who is now about to be counted out undor this ruling. THX SYMPATHY OF THE SPEAKER, The Srrakex—In that particular the tullest sym- pathy of the Chair is with the gentieman from Lilwors, Mr. Sprixcer—I know that very weil. (Loughver,) The Clerk then proceeded with the reading of the de- cision and of the objections thereto, Wueo it was con- cluded, Mr. Purciirs, of Missouri, called for tho reac- ing of the teatunony, Mr. Woop, ot New York, objected to the reading on the yround that there were 1,260 printed pages ot tue Teport and testimony, and that, at the rate of ten pages an hour, the readiag would occupy at least fivo days aud thus deleai—as was the object of the de- maud—the olection altogetuer. ‘The Speaker stated that under the rules he would submit to the Houso the question whether the testi- mony should be read. He did so submit it and a stand- iny Vote showed 90 yous to 133 nays, The yous und nays wore taken and resulted—yeas 87, nays 117. The following is Ashe, Atkin Bugiy J.H.of N.Y, Bevbe THM APYIRMATIVE vorE, Franklin, Kiva, Kiddle, Robbins of N. C., Kobort lover, Hamiiton of Ind., Blackburn, Harris of V Bliss, Harris of G Boor Hartzell, Bradiord, Henkie, Bright, 1 Culdwell of Alu, Hooker, GOntdwell of Teau., Humphreys, Campbell, Jones ot Ky. Cate. Knot, Cautfield, Landis of Ind, Clarke of Ky., La Clarke of Mo, cy idol, Philips of Mo, Voppleton, oon as the vote was announced Mr, Watutna, of moved to reconsider the vote. Mr. Woop, ot New York, moved to lay the motion to reconsider vn the table. Tho yous wud hays were motion Was agreed to—-yeas 177, that paris ove wny be read, The Srkakun—The House bas retused to have any of tho testimeny read, and, theretore, the motive is pot in order. Mr, Fuaxkitx, of Missour!, moved that the report of the South Carolina Committee be road. The Srsakxn—lt te not belore the Louse and can only be read by unanimous cousent, Mr. Srrivoan—it 4 part of the papers that have been Kent to the Cierk's desk, The SrkaKkn—Ihe House refused to bave them read, ku—Non constat; but the House may de- portion of them read, Joman irom Ulipois will pot say that the House having retused to have the entire testimony read, it i# for the Chair to entertata @ motwn to read w portion of the testimony? The reai difficulty in this matter i the law, The law binds the Chair, The Chair liad nothing t do with the reporting of thas Jaw, but the Chair is boand to abide by its terma, Mr. SPRINGKR—10 that! do not object. The SykakKn—The ir hopes nut, because the gen- tleman reported the jaw, (Laugnter.) Mr. Lerthei. Yes, and be wishes now he bad not, (Laughter, ) Altor some further attempts to delay, Mr. Cocunaws, of Pennsylvania, offered a resolution that the decision of the Electoral Commission on the votes of south Carolina be not sustained by the House and be oot “Tho discusat ned by Mr, Hooker, of M he discussion was ope y Mr. Hooker, sisaippl, and Was particypated in by Messra Goode, o Virginia; Franklin, of Missourt, and Vance, of North Carolina, on the democratic sia TO mR. a Mr. Vance, in the course of bis remarks, paid big re- apects to Mr. Hoar, of Massachusetis, aud imagined the case of « future archwologmt standing belore ine tomb of Webster, and calling to mind the imperishable words, ‘Union and ilberty, one and tnseparavie, now aud forever,”’ and then standing vetore the womb of Hoar aud recalling the words, “Ordered, that ev Of fraud be nut received,” What ap epitaph to t cessor of Webster, Choate and sumuer! The column enould be surmounted with a representation of ihe Bteuithy lox devouring the Louisiana pelican, ‘The following bamed gentlemen spoke w tevor of the d the law wamed in aids Mpoear to have voen lawtu'! of President and Vice Presi for the. term — bexinning of the State of South ab the time and in the tion of the United states and the faw ns further grounds for their decision, w failure of the Lexislature to provide @ traticn of persons entitled to vote does ail elections held under said laws though it may bo ut opi tom for thy rexis- y erwise suilicteat, the duty of the ‘Leg! ect such w law, If it were otherwise ment in that stato withous authority, and th at an end; that thi ix ® government since its constitution provide: Jn and was on the das of ps by the Exceutive und vy bot! departments of the zoverum 40 far ax this commission can tako notice of the the soldiers of the United states 1u tie State of How during the cluction, 16 nppenrs that they there by tho Prosldent of the United diates to suppress furrection at the reyuent of the priper authorities of State, but wo aro also of o atu hi befors us tt appeurs that t State, having cortitiod cloctors whowe votus we have de tural votes of the State, were duly appol which cortifieate, both by presumption certificate of al chimants hh brane: hat, rescue of outh 7 pap no power in thid U two houses of Consresi inquire into 1 re exi in the the electoral vote to cireumstances under which the primary jet upon the ove from its power in the matter of countiog to be counted are those presented by the when ascertained and prevented y the proper o Staves they must count com n has also decid ity of votes, and does hereby deciae and repo nuse of the forexoing, und upon the xround« before stated, the paper urporting to be the electoral vote of sald State of South Jarolina signed by Theodore K. Barker, 5. MeGowun, J; W. Harrington, Joba Ingram, William Wal B. kewin nnd rich, marked N herewith revurned, Ix not ted as such, ha soar above writ. 1, 1877.—TRIPLE | that the two houses SHEET. the package to the presiding officer, purporting to contain the electoral votes of Vermont, The Presiaing Oilicer—The Chair has stated that he has received but one certiticate trom Vermout. The Chair also staves that tne law ceiving any after the first T duty i# to receive been received on that day. Mr, Springer, of Llinois—I understand that the third return trom the Stare of Florida was reeeived on the Sist of January, Am I correct in that ?—(correct~ tug himself but still stumbling)—I mean February. Allthe response whiea the presiding oilicer was that January was not February, and whether thi mont. Mr. Springer—I offer a resolution ‘The Presid) iMeer—Lt ik 13 ai jection to the certificate Vermont the Chair will entertain it, ‘Dut if its samply @ resolution the Cuair will not en- tertain it. ‘i Mr Springer—Aiter it is read it would bo seen what it is. The Presiding Officer—If the member {rom Illinois submits an objection to thecertificate the Chair will entortuin it, but he cannot entertain 4 resolution Mr. Springer pe ed in bis eifortato bave the lution read, but presiding olficer was just and unyielding in not permitting it to be intimated that if the member trom [lino come to order the services of the Sergeant-at-Arma would be called inso requi-ition. Finally Mr. Sprivger uadertook to put bis resvlution in the shape of an objection, and the proceedings were informally suspended to give him time to do so. After wbout a quarter of wn nour spent in fixing it ‘Up in consultation with others, the following objection Was sent up signed by Senator Merrimon and Kepre- sentatives Springer and Hamilton, of ludiapa, ONSKETION TO VERMONT. The undersigned s counting of the voto: that two electoral 1 raid state wore forwarded to the of the senate, and that on aid betore the two ho ade ked ‘was any objection to the vote of Ver ol ved by hin A duplicate copy of one of said returns ts q bmitted for the consideration of the Senate and Mouse of Representatives, Accompanying tho objection was the following tele- gram, which was also rei Bow To #. J. Rawpaut, Speuber ‘ertiticate of Amos Aldrich, ws elector, was deposited in this view Doesmber 1 Bo. SMALLEY, Clerk United States District Court Vermont, Mr, Poppleton, of Ohio, then presented two sets of objections to the vote of Henry joluce, one of the electors, on the ground that he was a postmosier whe! eted, und what the law of Vermont iid not authorize an appomtment by the lege of electors to ill a va cuney caused by the absence of an elector. Tho objections having been road Mr. Springer de- Manded the reading of the duplicute return seat up with tis objection. The Presiding Ofeor—That is uot an objection, Mr. Springer—Bat it is aright that] have. [allude to tho certilicate presented by the geutlemaa trom New York (Sr, Hewitt), ‘The Presiding Otticer—So the Chair understood aud Fuled it out. Mr. Springer—Then Task that the Chair order that this certificate ve submitted to the judgment of the fiectoral Cominiveion, The Prosiding Oiticer—Tho Chair stated that be had hut received duplicate returns. Mi ringer—They are vow before the Chair, The Presiding Oieer (cutirely ignoring tho do- mand)—Are there uuy further objections to the certiti- cate from Vermont? (After a pause)—The Chair bears nove. Mr. Springer—Does the Chair declino to receive the returns sabmitied with my objections? residing Ottices any. Mr. Waddell, of North Carolina—Being aliunde. The Presiding UMicer--ln avy form. (Langhter.) ‘The Senate will now retire to its own cuamber, 1m order may separately consider aud decide upon the objections. As the Senate was withdrawing Mr. Springer called out that he now made the point of order that, U being duplicate returns, the case bad now gone to the Electoral Commissiwn and could not be considered by the two houses, attention, however, was paid to it, nor toa prop- osition mado ‘immediately alverward by Mr. Mula, of Texas, that the House proceed to elect a President, the Speaker declaring (uuder tho terms of the compromise agreement) that the House now, twenty winutes past feven, take a recess until tem o’clock to-morrow morn- ing. e Tne Chair declines to receive POPULAR SENTIMENT. AN APPEAL FROM THK BUSINESS MEN OF THIS METROPOLIS YOR A SPEEDY COMPLETION OF TUE COUNT FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESI- DENT. The tollowing bas been telegraphed to Washington :— To tux Honowaute tux Senate axy House or Rurax- SKATATIVES OV THK UNITKD DATES IN CONGHESS as- SKMULED -— ‘The undersicned bankers, merchants and others of the city of New York, fecling @ vrofuund Interest in the w fare of var common country, wud in the permanence of polisteat institutions, respectfully but humediate completisn of the count of President wud Vice President of the Unite feel that Koud fs re otleall) od who 90 patric niswton for the mation uf that plan, farts fur delay succeed 9 would be most disastrous to the political tutu ion and to re the consequ JOSHPH P, BRADLEY, GEORGE #, EDMUNDS, 0. P. MORiC FREDERICK T, FRELINGHUYSBN, AMES A. GAKPIELD, GEORGE ¥. HOAR, THE DEMOCRATIC OLIBCTION, Mr. Phillips, of Missouri, presented the following objection :— ‘he undersigned Senators and Representatives do hereby . Bowen, D. Win- Y. iB. Nash. Nelson of the Stace of South Carolina, conlormity " of tho Klectora! Commission, and as Feasuny therefor assign the following :- we no legal f election was held in South Caro ca ine i, fur Previdential elect) ele, of th stitution thereof, of ail clectors of the >tate as a ov pliance with requiring the rex quatifiention to vote. Secund—Hocuuse, i consequoneo of frauds practined in suid elvetion aud tho Interference with and in linidation of the electors in suid the feaeral government prior to wad during the said eloetior vurlous parts of n devaehments of tae war the poli fe full reise of the right quence of which ird—Beewnse In tos the f aid Stato, ty United States mui by ful and arbitrary wetion in obedioncs to tholr unaathori instructions froin the Department of Justice, 20 Interiered with the full and free oxereive of the right of suffrage of the voters of said State that w fur election could not be and id in suid State on November 7, 176. is the certification of the elvetion, by sad mber 6, 1874, was wos made by the lawfully id tate. id Electoral Commission, contrary duty and the wathority vested init by law, neglectod ysed ty inquire into the facts und allegations atore- id their suld decision iy contrary to tho law aud tho at the tne of the pretended appointment tors tho State of South Curolius was under du- ross from the power of the United St erted upon it, and sald pretended appointinents were made under such dares: ‘Secenth—Becunse the certitient wns and is void lor irre ere not sworn, as by the Carolina they were requi ot state that said ¢ constitution of t the enrelope npanying pape r certitieute required by the laws of the Us ited 3 1. M. NUK WOOD, of Georgia, 4. Ree ' jes, uninwiully ex. numbered 1 herewith ut first, the electors as reauired third, the ELLY, of Orogun. COUsFER, of Tennessec, MARCY, of Foxns. of Peunsyivania. Senators, J.P. PHILUIPS, of Missoari. MEISTER CLYM (i Hennsytvania, f] J. FUCKER, nia, itepresentatives. Mr Southard, (dem.) of Obiopalso prescatud objec- tous to the decision of the Bmmismou signed vy Senators Merrtmon, Denis, McDonald, Wailace and Jones, aud Represe@tatives Field, of New York; Southard, of Unio; Mutebler, of bgt Sieben Yeates, of Nort’ Carolina; Caldwell, of Alabama; be Bo of Missour, and J. b. Clark, Jr., of Missouri, becau: “anid electoral votes, ag well ag the voter of tho peo- ple of saul State, at the Prosideatial election on No- vember 7, 1976, Were given under duress caused by the Unlawiul exercise of federal powers, The objections having beeu read, the Senate, at half: past twelve, withdrew to is | im Order that the two houses might sepurately consider and decide upon tem, AVTER THR DEBATE, at Cysogy Minutes past six P.M. the Senate re- turned to the hall of the House of Representatives, and the action of each house on the a jon baving been read, the prosiding oflicer announced that, the two. houses bot concurring Olberwise, the cloctoral votesot Bouth Carulina would be counte id they were thure- upon deelared by ono of the tellers as seven tor Hayes aud Wheeier, Pending that action Mr, Jones, of Kentucky, raised the question that there was not & quorum of the Sen- ate presont (only twenty-eight having entered the hall), but the presiding office id HO altention to the int lerk to proceed with th with a protest inst The votes of Tennessee tweive and of Texas cight for Tilden and Hendricks were then anounced without ob- jection aod without we full reading of the certificates, Then came Vermont with tour votes for Hayes and Wheeler, @ WALT At VERMONT, ‘The certificate having been read in fall, Mr. Popple ton, of Uti, rose to present ections to It, bat first eked (he presiding villcer whether any other certit- cate had been received from Vermont than that which bad bwen read. The presid: officer replied in the negative, Mr. Hewitt, of New York, stated that be held in bis band ® package purporting to contin the electoral o decision of the comaissiou:—Mesers. Lapham, of New York ; Lawrence, of Ob Hanks, of Mastachu- setts, and Wallace and Rainey, of Seath Couronne, ‘The discussion was closed by Mr Txese, of Now Jorsey, who spoke in favor of acquiescence, that 4 cimilar pact- of the Sevate Oo learning to-day that no corresponding ‘kage bad been received by the presiding officer, he to him the package (holding 't ap), the ol Vewn goverument everywhere and jmmedintely destruct to the business interests of the whule country. New Yous, Fob, 24, 1477. Kubert Lenox Kennedy, Prostdent of the Bank of Com- bony Lowe Fourth ational Bank; mp, President Clearing 0: Menjamin Sherman, ional Bank; 1. W. Cox, Cashier Johu F. Nenry, Curran & Co., fol w. ident join ric Baw dent National broadway Bank tue Sew Y yt a drpemients J. ¥ 7 & Vo., bai Henry F. Vall, Goorge Uabot Ward, sine & Wurgess ‘ius ‘allace P. Grooms, Secrotary New Yurk Bord A. La Seuvill & Co., Pomeroy & Outealt, easbler New York Nation & Austin, tf. K. & P.M. Thurber & Co, RESOLUTIONS OF THE BOARD OF TRADE. A bspoctal meoting of merchants assombled yesterday at the chamber of the Board uf Irade, ex-Mavor Opdyke in the chair, The meoting was called to iuke {uto consideration the present status of political ul- fairs, and to express the opinion of the mercantile community regarding the actions of the American Con- roxy rehitive to the Presidential question, Mr, Joun *. Heury offered the toliowing preamble and resolu. tions, which were unanimously adopted :— The prosont state vt exeitoment in regard to quostion ta ex: industrial in Rerotved, Thas 4 Haut of Trade respoct- fully but most wegoutly rene to proceed ty th Immediate completion of the count of the electoral vy for President aud Vico President, On motion it was resolved to send the above ble and resolution to the F ent of 5 Speaker of the House at once, afier which the wet adjourned, ACTION O¥ CONNECTICUT DEMOCKATS, (BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD. } Hantrono, Fob. 28, 1877, Ata meeting of the Democratic Stare Central Com- mitteo held here yesterday the following preamble aug resolutions were adopted unauimously :— Wherens the Electiral Co was designed and in- tuted to ascortain who, by the vutor of the peaple cast justly electod to the ng irom the 4th ot Maret Vote of ite members, in ex i fraud wand set a premiuu aj rihs of every treeman solved, That it is the duty Biatives In Congress to © power in them vested fragt, whieh by con prosp habitual, to the early and certain destruction fustitutions. Kesulved, That the chalrman of this e hereby tustracted ty torwi denn preamble and resolutions to our Hives in Congress. our free mittee bo and is ly the tereguing RESOLUTION OF THE CLEVELAND BOARD OP TRADE. Cunvxtaxn, Ohio, Feb, 28, 1877. The following resolutions were adupted by the Cleve. Jand Board of Trade to-day ;— Bonrd of Trade fully cone 4 by other siniine mat ol and that we betleve It esse that a speedy adja he Vresidential settied promptly. Uj ub ot the vote, within the s intended by the law appoluting the Electoral throws tiles Kevoivea, That we do hereby condemn any attompt as filibustering on the part of Congress to imped wetio of the commission, and wo call upon oar Senators aed Rey: resentatives in ¢ reas to do wil be any to farther the completion of sho Hresdeatial count within the tne speck fod by luw, THE WEST VIRGINIA LEGISLATURE, Waxxuive, Feb. 28, 1877, A democratic caucus of the Legisluturo of this State held lust night, passed resolutions and telegraphed them, instructing their Senators and Representatives in Washington to use ull constitational means to p vent tho counting of the electoral vote under the de- cisions of the Electoral Commission, ACTION IN THE CONNECTICUT GENERAL AS- SEMBLY, Hanxtvorn, Feb, 28, 1877, In the Connecticut House of Representatives to-day Judgo Willey, of Kast Haddam, repavlican, tntroduced Tesulutions relative to (ne electoral count (which were drafted by ox-Congressman Kellogg, of tho Sec- ond district), and they wore passed with a rush, the democrats failing to cateh tho attontion of the Spoaker in timo to interpose objections, An amusing feature this matter ts that the democrats, ouly afew weel BO, tried Lo secure the passage Of resolutions endor: ing the commiasio: id were defeated by the oth side of the House, the latter openly asserting that they first wanted to seo what the commission would do, ‘The recolutions passed to-day were as tollows:— had declined to receive 1 He now ten tendered seals of which were still uobroken, und the presidip Whereas on the 25th day of J uary, the House of resolution eentatives, by a large asad a ing the of the State gov. pi hedeng oot toon i tp pee ev pro dent of the United Atay of Pprovesed taw wuiel -w 2 wo Ie ot the lato Preshie ‘be made Deture the 4th day of Marel in the mauser prescribed uy the Constitution, . That any attempt to defeat the oper tution and the laws by dilatory tutions and ae atic THE STATE CAPITAL, PASSAGE OV THE REGISTER OF DEEDS BILL— A BILL TO ABOLISH THE DEPARTMENT OF DOCKS—sPINOL\ ON THE RAMPAGE AGAIN, (by TELEGRAPH To THE HERALD.) Anaxy, Fob, 28, 1877, Both houses met at the customary hour, A meeting Was wntici pated of the joint committee on cities, but Mr. Cowdin gave a little dinner party, at Congress Hall, at which Messrs, Woodin and Fish Were present, and the consequence was that the festivities were prolonged to such w lute hour that the Meeting did not como off, BURNING AND SUINING POLITICAL LiGuTs, In tho committee room during the evening a num. ber of gentlemen gathered, including Mr. Johu Mor. rivsey, Mr. Peter Mitchell, Mr, John I, Strahan and Deputy Comptroller Storrs, the two latter being pres- ent lor (he purpose of telling what they koew about retrenchment and reform. Yo while away the time Morrissey and Strabun indulged ina spirited debate a8 to the best method of attaining the desired end, The Senator expressed hiunself in the strong. est terms a8 approving tho abolition of unnecessary dopartmnenty, while Mr, Strahan thought that reduc. tion could be best procured by rducing the number and salaries of officials rather than in doing away en+ Urely with branches of the city government. Mr, Woudin appoared on the scene at a jase hour, and good natured War uf Words Was carried on between tl two Senators, Woodin rallied Morrissey playfully oa his voung against the Register’s bill, and in reply the Senator trom the Fourth retorwd that, if they really Wauted retrenchment, (hey must smasi tho departments, The debate wi brougue to un amicable conclusion by Mr, Wo: ating that the positions of Mr. Morrissey and himself could best be delved by agreeing, 48 the “smasher” and he as the Will meet again to-morrow, ANOLISIUNG THE COURTS. At three o'clock Scoutor Gerard’s concurrent reso: lution, amending the constiution, abolishing tne Court of Common Pieas and Superior Court and vest- jug the Jurisdiction iu the justices of the Supreme Court, witer a long debate, wax passed, POLICY OBLIGATIONS, The bill was also passed regulating the reinsurance of policy obligations of io insurance companies, INDIGNANT VIRTUE. In the Assembly, Webv, of Dutchess, roge to a qnes- tion of privilege and oflered a resolution which siated that wu certain wember bad been approachea to influ. ence legislation, aud asking that the Committee of Privileges uod Elections be empowered to send for persons and papers to investigate the case, Bulmer, of Queens, was the member referred to. THE GENERAL AVPROPRIATION MILL Tho House went into Committee of the Whole, Mr MeKee in the chair, on the General Appropriation bill, the pending question being on the mot:on of Mr, Lang to strike out the appropriation for the Commissiun to Revise the statutes, Mr. Giivert spoke at length against the motion, and the matter was also argued by Messrs, Ruggies, Welsh, Husted, HH. Rockwell and Mitchell in tavor of the Appropriation, and Messrs, Purdy, Lang and Spinola opposed. Mr, Husted took the ground that the merits or d Merits of the commission Was Dot in question, The items of the bill were placed there m pursuance ot Jaw. If the further payment of muney ts to be stopped. it must be by a repeal of the law, bat the law mbave lutely requires the Ways and Means Committee to pro- vide for these expensea. Mr, Spinola, during a long huranguo against the appropriation, made some of his customary aad ofe repeated refereuces to Mr. Gowdin and the speech ou winent made by that gentleman early in tho mer stood pledged an the ‘merger.”” ‘ihe committee session. For some time, as on previous occasions, Mr. Cowdia Paid no attention to the gentieman’s remarke, bus finally he rose to a pomt of order, and said that 1 ‘was Hot his purpose to reply to the gentleman now or @eny future time. Ho liad listeued to his insolence glier day, and week alter week; but there was @ polbtbeyond whieh forbearance ceased to ve a virtue (Cries of “Good! “Good!” trom all parte of the ebammber.) Mr, Spinola attempted to continue in the same Strain, but Mr. Alvord and others raised the point of ordor that he was not speaking to the question, The Chair ruled the point of order well taken, aud soon alter Mr, Spinola took fs seat, Progress was then reported on the bill and it was made a special order for to-morrow morning. THK TITLE TO REAL KSTATE. Senator Selkreg bas introduced u vill, providing that the title of any citizen to lands in (wis State shall nos be questioned by reason of the alienage of any person through whom such title may have been derived, THR REGISTER OF DEEDS. Tho bill taking away 1ces and givinga salary to the Register of Deeds of New York city pussed the Senate this morning, Only three Senators voted agains it— Messrs, Morrissey, Schoonmaker and Starbuck. ENGINKKR OF LOCKS, Senator Morrissey introduced a bill this morning Providing furan additional bureau in the Department of Publis Docks, New York city, to be known as the Engineer of Docks, Tho present Department of Docks is abolished. THE CANAL BOARD, RECOMMENDATION TO THK LEGISLATURE 70 CONCUR IN THE TOLL SHEET oF 1877. ALBANY, Fob, 28, 1877. Ata meeting of the Canal Board to-day the balance due James P. Buck on hts Glens Falls teeder contract ‘was ordered to bo paid, It amounts to $13,693 73 ‘The toll question waa tukon up, and the following rosoluvion, oflered by Lieutenant Governor Dorsheimer, recommend to the Legis lly upon the Erie, Oswego, in the we: from tbat of 1876, The Comptrolier, to whom was reterred the resolu. tlou of tho last meeting inquiring what reduction could bo made, reported against any reduction trom the sheet of Ls76, - The Secretary of State moved to adopt the sheet of 818, Los Mr. Dorshoimer's resolution was then adopted. ‘The Comptroller, trom the committee appointed at last ineeting to report a plan to provide tho necessary funds jor ordinary repairs prepara to opening the caunais, reported a resoiation Tequesting the Legisla- ture to authorize a temporary transl ‘of $300,000, from the approp f $400,000, to enable tho State oilicers to repair aud open the canals. Adopted. Aujourued to March 13. OUR COMPLAINT BOOK. BRAZEN MENDICANTS. New Youk, Feb, 27, 18% To tus Evrton ov tuk Hewaco;— Aliow me space in your valued ‘Complaint Book” to ask why the poltce aro mot authorized to arrest as Vagrauts of (ramps those disreputable lovking crea- tures who every day ou Broadway and other crowded thoroughiares accost very many ladies and in no gentle voice absolutely demand mouey, thereby caus- ing timid ladies much avnuyance and terror. 1 Witnessed & scene to-day that suggested this communication, Two ladies wi i ou Broadway when one of the al \useted on following them some distance. Forta hatoly 4 genticman passing at the time noticed their frightened tuces, apd divining the cause caught the Vagrant by the shoulder wud thrust him from the walk. His kindbess wan apprecited | kuow, as the ladies Were protuse in their thanks, 1 have Veen much anavyed of late in the samo man Bor, aod think i quite time to call attention to the subject, recognizing the sound advice always given by the representative journal of the country. I beg you t gost areimedy against evil, thereby coaler ring @ lasting favor on many lady sufferers, A PROMENADER, A YRIEND OF 118 SPITZ. New York, Feb. 27, 1877, To tnx Epiror ov tHe Heranvr— Will you kindly give the following a place in your complaint book ? In this morning's Issue will put @ builet into any within bis rango. Now, Me. Editor, you ask this Manly creature to give us owners of dogs belonging to this ost persecuted race some disunguishr wiities bv Which be any be Pag mere! Kip bn: ae judge that be must a ter us, ook: wid . Lam the fortunate colored ribbon, If “Dogalas through the medium of your cola route, | and my beloved Spitz with Dados to the streets not fi an Innocent We, eae