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- WASHINGTON. President Grant Declares for Conkling as His Successor. CHANDLER ON BELL. General Babeock and the Seerets of the . Attorney General's Office. ANOTHER RECUSANT WITNESS. Proposed Purification of Our In- dian Service. FROM OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, Wasutxotox, April 5, 1876. IMPORTANT TESTIMONY—SECRETS OF ATTORNEY GENERAL PIERREPONT’S OFFICE—HAD BAB- COCK ACCESS TO THEM. Ex-Senator Henderson was before the Committee on ‘Waiskey Frauds to-day again, and some of his testi- mony was important, as likely to lead to other develop- ments, Ho testified ‘that Secretary Bristow had told | him ona certain occasion that he was satisfied that Babcock or Horace Porter saw all the evidence against Babeock, and he was of the impression that Solicitor ‘Wilson bad told nim substantially the same thing. Mr. Henderson testified also that Mr. Pierrepont had said to him, concerning the evidence against Babeock, that the President was always beticr in- formed about it than be was, and that when Mr, Pierrepont went to tell the President anything about 4t, he always found him already informed. Mr. Hep- derson added that Mr. Pierrepont said to him he was puzzled to account for this, but concluded that he was Kept informed by one Fox, who was a member of the Grand Jury which investigated the Babcock case end found the indictment against him. Mr. Henderson will complete his testimony to-mor- Tow before the committee, and it is understood that ‘Mr. Dyer will return from St, Louis ina few days and ‘will be further examined. 1t is probable thut the com- mittee will also summon Secretary Bristow, Solicitor Wilson and Horace Porter. Mr, Henderson is understood to say that the letter of * the Attorney General to district attorneys had a very « demoralizing influence on the whiskey prosecutions in St Louw. Itix believed that Mr. Brodhead, who has _ been summoned, will testify to the same effect, PURIFICATION OF THE INDIAN SERVICE. The Indian Ring are desperate to-day and are be- givning to lose their temper. They see a very valuable prize slipping out of their hands and the danger makes them frantic, It may as well bo understood by the country that the struggle tor the purification of the Indian service has begun, and that this struggle is very fierce, The Indian Ring will leave no means unused to crush out the attempt to transfer the service to the War Department, They have no hope of further stealings if it goes there, The prospect for this much needed , Feform is not too hopeful, Several men of undoubted honesty of purpose, but equally undoubted ignorance * of this question, have unfortunately ranged them- , Selves against the transfer, The friends of economy and reform need to bring all their influence to bear in favor of it, for there are uot afew weak and ill-in- formed men in the Houso who may be misled into a wrong vote unless they feel the ~ ‘impulse of the popular will. The transfer of the * Indians to the War Dopartment will save $7,000,000 or * $8,000,000 annually to the government, will cause the + Indians to be honestly dealt with, will remove one of , the most corrupt’ and demoralizing evils within the government, and will work as the beginning of a general Civil Service reform, That is the whole ques- tion, and every honest man who has studied the Indian _ FROM OUR REGULAR CORRESPONENT. Fi ANNES Wasuixerox, April 5, 1876, “PRESIDENT GRANT FOR CONKLING—A COLORED CONGRESSMAN AS AN INTERVIEWER. Among the sx colored men who stood by the Presi- dent in the House on the third term resolution was Jere Haralson, of Selma, Ala., Representative from the First district of that State, Mr. Haralson, according to his official biography, was born a slave in Georgia in 1846, and on the death of bis first master was | sold on the auction block and subsequently taken to Alabama Becoming free in 1865 he educated himself, was twice elected to the Stato Legislature, and in 1874 was elected to the present Congress. Every squaro inch on his back shows the scars of the whip of his slavery days. Mr. Haralson called on the President, and notwith- standing his illness was cordially invited to a con- ference. He went chiefly to talk over @ie matter of the republican officials in his district, and referred princi- pally to the removal of Colonel Wichersham, the Post- master ut Mobile. He then commenced, at the instance | of the President, to talk freely of the condition of affairs in the South and as to how it would go in the next Presidential campaign. Mr. Haralson avowed himself to the President a strong Grant mau and went on to explam that tho | people of his State were very much divided up between Bristow, Morton and Conkling, and since the recent | decision ol che Supreme Court on the Enforcement act, the colored peopic were very much staggered and did not know wht to do, as the democratic Southern country papers were full of the cry of ‘‘No more force bills!” “No more nigger voting!” “No more military rule!” as@ republican Supreme Court bad decided apon it. ‘The President was very much interested and was ex, ceedingly stirred up and manifested his feolings quite \mpressively to Mr. Haralson. The President said that Mr, Mortoa was a very good republican and a very strong man, but Mr. Conkling was also a strong man and bad always been upright «nd con- | Bistent, as well as never having had lis ropa- | tation assailed in any way, The President | wanted to know how the delegation from his State would go and for what candidate? To this Mr. Haral. | ton answered he could not really say; thet Mr, Morton was very highly thought of, and so was Mr, Conkling, ‘aswell as Mr. Bristow; but the colored people would | ‘mot think of Mr. Blaine. The President reiterated bia conviction that Mr. Conkling would make un oxceilent President, and Mr, | Haralson said to him, “Why, Mr. President, are you | Boing to electioneer for him +” To this the President signified in answer that he was Gecidediy in favor of Mr. Conkling, us he thought he would make the strongest republican candidate, Mr. Haralson went on to say that, having just re- | Worned from his State, be could say that there was a | preference for Bristow, because the old whig clemen: who did not like the democratic leaders, said that “hough Mr. Bristow had fought in the Union | army, yet he was a Southgrn man, and would | More favorable to the South” Besides this the colored people wore set seriously to thinking how they wonid be aifected in their surroundings by Sustaining a radical candidate, and they were im- pressed that there might be a question of policy tor | them to vote for that republican candidate wo would arouse tho least animosities among the Southern peo- ple. Tho decision of the Supreme Court on the Ko- | forcement act ought to be explained by the Judges or 4m some Way, for it was all mispresented to und misun- derstood by the celored people now, and they did not | Know what to do, The President was still deeply interested, and sig- nified that hoe would do all in his power to encourage and protect the colored people, He would not make the removal contemplated which was pressea by “ena- tor Spencer, unless there were some charges against the official, ‘The interview closed just as Mr, Haralson was get- ting to ihe most important part of the consultation, in reference to the future of the Southera States, but it is bo be resumed at the desire of the President, ina tew days, when hr. Haralson says, on occount of the very ‘of going over the whole matter, as be has found the ; Ang Indian irregularities, The first day that the corre- NEW YORK HERALD, THURSDAY, APRIL ¢, 1876—TRIPLE SHEET. President, -to his surprise, 0 dceply interested and willing to know and provide for emergencies. Mr, Haralson spoke in a very cautious and measured, but extremely intelligent manner, through the whole interview, and was extremely pleased with the Presi- dent's willingness to listen to him and the avidity with which he received the explanations made to him. Mr. Haralson also says that if President Grant is, as he avows himself, for Conkling for next President, of | course it will give Conkling great. strongth.. Senator Conkling, he says, is lodkad upon among his people as the sccond Grant, 4 HERALD CORRESPONDENT 4S A RECUSANT WITNESS—MB. PAGE, OF CALIFORNIA, SERES INFORMATION WHICH WOULD NOT BENEFIT HIM—HIS CONNECTION WITH AN INDIAN RING. And now a Heratp correspondent is to be arraigned at the bar of the House aga rocusant witness. it bap- pens that among the attachés of the Washington bureau of the H&matp this winter is the correspondent detailed by the Hexanp, and sent to Dakota last summer, to investigate the Indian frauds, concern- ing which report was then so rife, This gentleman was asked by the chairman of the Indian Committee, the other day, to give any facts that he might know touch- spondent appeared, Mr. Page, of California, who is a member of the committee, demanded his name, and | eventually, on another day, grew indignant, and pro- tested against bis giving suggestions tothe cha:riman, and requested that he be put on the stand. To-day the correspondent gave a detailed statement of the frauds at Fort Peck and other places, | whereupon Mr. Page smiled, said it was no evidence, and | then began a cross-examination, trying with singular simplicity to show that the Hxratp investigated frauds | for political purposes and ordered its correspondents to | write againat the administration, He also tried to ob- | tain knowledge of the business management of the HERALD, tho salaries it paid and the names of those | who have furnished information to the correspondent, | As the witness refused to reveal the source of his iu- formation, Mr. Page ordered that he be brought before | the bar of the House, . The foilowing is a sample of the interrogatories put to the correspondent by Mr. Pag ‘What were your instructions whem you were detalled to investigate the Indian frauds?” “By whom were yousent ?”” *‘Whatis the political character of the Herarp?” “I am not talking about the majority of the editors; what is the political character of the Herarp?” “Is the Herarpa Yepublican or democratic paper?’ “Is it opposed to tho present administration?”’ Did you ever writeany- thing favorable to the administration that was published in the Hxraup?” “Is it among your instructions to write anything favorabie to the administration?” “Did you ever write apy article favorable to the administration’, “Where are those articles?’ “Can you call my attention to any article that you have written within the last year favorable to the adminis. tration.” “Will you do so?” “Were your instructions to write articlos attacking the administration ¥”” “Did you receive any assistance from the democratic party in this House in the shape of an appointment to any committee duty of any kind?’’ ‘Did you not occupy @ clerkship in @ committee?” ‘Dia you send a despatch to the Hxratp the day you were subpwnaed before this committee?” “Did you write any despatch that was sent there for publication ft” “Do you remember of sending one after you were subpoenaed to appear before this committee, in which you ‘stated substantially that the testimony before the committee this morning causes Congress man Page considerable uncasiness, or that the recent developments before the Indian Committee have caused Congressman Page, of California, considerao! uneasiness?’ ‘You wili tell us about it uny how.’? “Your orders do not tell you how to send despatches?” “That isthe order you received, not to tell how much salary you received, nor from whom you received it?*” “I ‘am asking if you sent this article or gave in- formation upon which it was sent” “You don’t want to answer the question at all, well did you sond the article referred to?” ‘1 will send up and got & paper if necessary, if you want to know what article it is; las you if you sent that article?” “I have not expressed any opinion as to whether you are right or not; have you the original article you sent? Thero ‘was a good deal more.in the original article than was printed, was there not?” “Much more? “Did you give® the Anformation, that ~-caused that despatch to be sent, that the testi- mony before the indian Committee had caused Congressman Pago considerable uncasiness?” “Upon what authority?? “In what way did you think Mr. Page, of California, was uneasy?’ ‘“Uncasy on what ground?” “You said the testimony beforo the com- mittee had caused Congressman Page considerable un- easiness; what did you mean by that?” “Who told you that; I want his name?’ ‘Where was this con- versation held; at whose house?”’ ‘‘At whose house?” repeated. “You were in his house, and he gave you injormation, and you can’t remember the name; what is the pumber of the house?’ “What fs the name of the man?’ “Where did you meet?” «Where did you meet?’ repeated. “Where did you meet at the time he gave you this in. | formation?” *‘You stated a moment since that it was in his house, Would you know that, man if you should see him again’? ‘Do you know where he lives; where his home is?” ‘It don’t make any difference; | you are to answer this question or | will report you to the House of Representatives. I imsist upon an an- swer to this question, and if you don’t give it I'll pre- sent you to the House of Representatives this morn- ing. Gtve us the name of the man” ‘Did he state anything else?” “Who is that other Congressman” ‘Who is it?’” “You stated be told you about another Congressman; what did you hear?” “What was it?” “Who was the Congressman?” ‘I want a direct uucquivocal answer to my question; I want you to answer my question; who was this Congressman referred to by your informant?” ‘Do you know it; did he give the namef” “Dia he mention the name of any Congressman?” “What was itt’ “What is the name of the Congressman?” “Did he give the name of the man?’ “What man do you think he said?” “I want this witness to be instructed to answer that question, This was the same party that gave you the information about Mr. Page, of Cal- fornia; what was this man’s name?’ “What is the name of the party with whom you had # conversation when Mr. Page's name was mentioned in connection | with the Indian Ring?” “I ask this witness to confine | himself to this question?” “I ask the Chairman | of this Committee to insist on an answer { to the question, What is the namo of the party with whom you had the conversation when Mr. hame was mentioned in connection with the * Question repeated. “The Chairman will anquestionably instract the witness to give the Bame of the party.’”’ “Is this your bandwriting?” Correspondent —Yes, sir; that ts my bandwriting. Page—You presented that to a member of this com- mittee? Correspondent—I presented the slip to Judge Wil- | | shire; 1 was volantecred whea Mr. Page was trying to | 5* get a deGortion of the term Indian Ring. Here follows the sip re‘erred to:— “Page ought to know that the combination that bids highest and always gets the contract is a ring, The Witness Ought to foree the point on him." Al this the correspondent was potitied that he would be brought belore the bar of the House to-morrow morning. : Mr. Page will Gnd it diMealt to prove that the answers | to these guestions are pertinent to any interest the | government bas fo the case, and will hardly dare to swear so as 4 prelimipary to enforcing answers to his interrogatories, GENERAL WASHINGTON DESPATCHES. Wasuixorox, April 5, 1876, SECRETARY CHANDLER TELLS WHAT HE KNOWS OF DETECTIVE BELL—HOW HE WAS PAID A | MONTH'S SALARY WITHOUT RENDERING ANY SERVICE, AND DISMISSED BECAUSE THE PRESI- DENT THOUGHT JIM A sCOUNDREL. Hon. Zachariah Chandler, Secretary of the Interior, appeared to-day before the Committee on Expenditures ja the War Department, and was sworn as 8 witness, The Jeter of appointment of Chatles 8. Bell, dated | January 16, 1876, was shown, and Mr, Chandier identi- fled it as a regular official dvcuwent, Mr, Chandier suid that Betl’s name was first mentioned by the President at a Cabinet meeting He (the Secretary) had experienced considerable diMiculty si securing a ehiet of the Secret Service, He bad discharged the one be had, and asked the members of the Cabinet to Belp him get a good chief, A few days afer tho President had mentioned Bell as a spy in the service of the army during the war, Bell called at the Interior Department with a card from the Presi- dent. The latter had said that he would make a good man on the force, but not as chief. The card simply announced that Bell was the man the President had told him about Witness told Bell he was not prepared then to make changes, but to come again. He called | eeveral times in several weeks, and witness said ho | believed ho had met Bell twice during that tine, One day General Hurlbuc was sitting in Cg) oflice, at the Interior Department, when Bell's card came in; witness threw it carclessly upon the table and told the messenger to say to Bell he was cngaged. General Hurlbut says:—“Bell, why I know that man, He was a spy for me, he enlisted in the rebel army as a private, stayed in the service seven months, durmg which time he was promoted to bo ®@ sergeant.” Witness said:—“If he could stay in the rebel army seven months as a spy and keep his neck out of the halter he must be a smart fellow and ought to make a good detective;’’ witness appointed him more on what General Hurlburt said than upon the recommendation of the President; witness was under the impression that Bell handed hima card, but failed to find it since, and may have been mistaken; wituess had never spoken to General Babeock or Colone: Luckey about it; Bell was discharged Febru- ary 15, 1874, after one month's service; witness said it came about in this way:—he went to the Cabinet moet ing one day earlier than tho other mombers and found the President sitting there with Boll’s name on the table; the President asked him if he had such a man in his employ, and the answer was “Yes;’’ tho President then said that Bell was a scoundrel and ought to be dismissed; witness dismissed b:m as soon as he got back to the office because he believed him to be a scoundrel; the President told him’ that Bell bad applied to someone to certify that he was in the government ewploy to furnish information for or against Babcock, he did not care which, Mr. Chandler said he never saw the publication of the cipher printed in the New York Henatp until alter this investigation began; witness said he was not | aware \tuat Bell had performed any service for the Pension Bureau; Le Barnes, chief of the secret service, came to the witness at the end of the first mo 14 said Bell wanted his account passed for expenses; Mr. Lo Barnes said he did not know of any service performed by Mr. Bell; that when he was first taken on Mr. Bell said he had some pri- vate matters to attend to that would perhaps require & week's absence, and that he stayed away a month; the witness toid Mr. Le Barnes not to audit the account until Mr, Bell proved that he had rendered the service, the witness says Mr, Bell has since deceived Assistant Secretary Cowan into indorsing the following upon a cad to Mr, Le Barnes:—Mr, Bell bas been lugiti- | mately employed under orders and is entitled to his allowance per diem. Will Colonel Le Barnes pleaso adjust the account?”—the impression of the witness | was that the voucher for the payment of Mr. Beli caine in a batch of vouchers, though it may have been brough*® | in specially ; he 1s not tn the habit of reading the vouchers | because there are so many that it takes two hours a day sometimes just to sign them; he does not believe the Bell caso was ever mentioned specially and distinctly, though it possibly might have been; he said tt did not seem probable, for if tho witness had noticed Mr. Bell's voucher he would not have paid it; the witness was not told by Mr. Bell that he had gono to New York on the Babcock matter; if he had not done any other service than that he ought not to have been | paid; there was no evidence except his word that he had rendered any service; on February 12 tho Com” missioner of Indian Affairs sent a number of cases to Le Barnes for invostigation: February 13 Le Barnes turned them over to Bell, with instructions to work them up; on February 15 Boll was directed by Le Barnes ta return all the papers turned over from tht Commissionor of Indian Affairs; this order was ceived by Bell in 8t. Louis; witnesa had no imtima- jon that Bell was employed to assist Babeock n his defence at St, Louis; he discharged Bell because he believed him to be @ scoundrel; witness knew of no subscription being taken up to defray the expenses uf Gouoral Babcock at St. Louis; he received a letter from Mr, Borie, of Philadelphia, weeks after the acquittal of General Baboock, to the effect that General Babcock's trial expenses were about $40,000; that he was utterly ruined, and that, as tie was a young man, he could overcomo his dificulty if set upon his feet and evoouraged by bis friends; - ¥e.. Chandler then sont General Babcock a check for $1,000; when Le Rarnes finally told witness that Beil had something to do with the Babcock trial, he told Le Barnes not to pay him, unless he found him in legiti- mate employment of the Pension Bureau; he did not know that Bell had beon paid until inquiry after road- ing his testimony before this committee, Mr. Danford read seriatim the questions and answers given in Bell's testimony, at considerable length, relat- ing to conversations Bell ssys be had with Mr. Chan- dler about the Babcock casa, He branded the testi- mony in whole and in part, so far as it referred to him, as absolutely and unqualifiodly fals ho said Mr, Luckey never had a conversation with him aboat Bell’s connection with the Babcock case. HEADQUARTERS OF TEK ARMY. By dircetion of the President the following order was issued to-day :— War Derarturnt, Wasntsatos, D. C., April 5, iste. } ‘The Adjutant General will promulgate the’ tollowing order fur the information of ail concerned :-— ‘The headquarters of the army are hereby re-eatab- lished, and hereafter, in timo of peace, shall be Washington city, and ‘all orders'and instructions rela- | tive to military operations or affecting the militar; control aud gg iy of the army issued by the Presi- | dent through the Secretary of War shall be promul- gated through the Genera! of the Army. ALPHONSO TAFT, Secretary of War, PROCEEDINGS IN CONGRESS, In the Sonate, after action on several unimportant | matters, Mr. Edmunds, (rep.) of Vermont, called atien- tion to the rule in reference to the oath to be adminis- | tered to the members of the Senate prior to its sit, | ting as A COURT OF IMPRACHMENT. | On bis motion it was agreed to request the Chiof | Justice of the Supreme Court to attend the Senate at | ove P. M. and administer that oath, For this purpose the Chair named Messrs. Edmunds and Thurman a | committee to wait on the Chiet Justice. Somo further | business of minor interest followed, The hour of ono o’clock having arrived Messrs, Ed- | munds and Thurman, the committee nppointed to wait upon the Chief Justice, appeared in the Senate Chanm- ber with the Chief Justice, and escorted him to the seat provided for him at the right of the presiding officer, Mr. Ferry, President, pro tem, then au- nounced that the Senate would proceed, according to its rules, to consider the articles of impeachment against W. W. Belknap, late Seeretary’ of War. Chicf Jastico Waite theu administered the fullowing oath to Mr, Ferry, President pro tem. of the Senate, and afterward to all the Senators present, who were called in alphabetical order in groups of six:— You solemuly swear that in all things appertainingto | the trial of the impeachment of W. W. Belknup, late | etary of War, now pending, you will do impartial | justice acccrding to the constitution und the laws, so { help you God. | ‘The Senators as their names were called advanced to the desk of the presiding officer where the Chief | Justice stood to administer the oath. After the first six Senators had been called, Mr, Morton said if there ‘was no olyection he would suggest tbat all Senators bo sworn at one time standing in their places, * Mr. Tucrwas (dem.), of Olio, objected. Ho said said there might be some doubt about verilying Seva- tors who were sworn; he thought the Senate had better jullow the usual custom. ‘The senators who were absent, amd therefore not sworn, were Messrs. Alcorn, Allison, Burnside, Caper- ton, Christianey, Conkling, Conover, Dennis, Engiish, Goldthwaite, Howe, Jobnsun. J of Nevada; Mor- of Maine; Patterson, Ransom, Robertson ‘and Wad- , he at Cure Justice then retired in charge of the com- mittee, Messrs. Edmunds aud Thurman, Mr Frenixeucy: (rep.) of N. J., submitted an order directing the Secretary of the Senate to notity the House of Representatives that the Senate is now organized for the trial of the impeachment of W. W. ‘ate Secretary of War, and the managers of impeachment on House of Representatives at the bar of the At twenty minutes to two v'elock th at the main entrance of the Se and were ani by Sergeant-at-Arms French, The Cnaim directed the Sergeaot at-Arms to escort the managers to the seats provided ior them, After they were seated Mr. Fenny, President pro tem., said :— “Gentlemen managers, the Senate 1s new orpanized tor the trial of the tmpeacoment of W. W. Belknap, late Secretary of War, / Mr. Lane, chairman of the Board of Managers, said :— Mr. Vaesweyt—Wo pray tor the rasue of process against W. W, Beiknup, late Secretary of War, to answer the articles of impeactiment presented. Mr. Eonvunos (rep.) of Vt, submmitied the following, which was to:— : Ordered, jummons be issued, as required by the rules of procedure aed practice ia the Senme when elttag 1a the trial of impeachment, to W. W. Keiko, | | . retarnable on Monday, the 17th day of the present month, atone P.M. ‘Mr. Lonp—rhat is satisfactory to the managers. ‘The managers then retired. After debate on technical matters relative to the trial, the Senate, a Court of limpeachment, ad- Journed to the 171) it, at half past twelve P. M. POSTAGE ON MERCHANDISE. ‘The Senate then resumed legislative business, and on motion of Mr. Haun, (rep.)of Me., took up the bill to tix the of postage on third class mail matter. Ho submitted an amendment requiring the post ollice at the place of mailing, if the sender is known, to collect from him any deflcioucy which may be discovered be- fore sending the matter forward by mail, This being agreed to, Mr. ¥, (dem.) of Mo., op the bill as increasing the postage on third ciass matter in pro- 1D to the distance. Mr. Hamre at great longth advocated the passage of the bill, and urged that it was the duty of Congress to frame such a schedule of postages as would make the Poat Office Department self sustaining. He said tho ital service not been a charge upon the Treasury rom 1789 to 1841. Now there is an anpual of trom $5,000,000 to $8,000,000, while the letter paid, besides the cost of their transmission and deliv- ery, about $5,000,000 a year. If merchandise was made to pay its actual cost of transmission, the private orrespondence of the country coul arried at two 9M per letter, and the department mado self sustain- ie At twenty minutes past four P, M. the Senate ad- jJourned, REPRESENTATIVES. Wasinctox, April 5, 1876. Mr, Ranvars, (dem.) of Pa, offered a resolution di- Fecting the Secretary of the Treasury to furnish the House with an itemized account of the amount ex- Pended under the item of $300,000 appropriated for Nght and fuel for the fiscal year ending June"30, 1876, Adopted. Mr. Cox, (dom.) of N. Y., from the Committee on Banking and Currency, reported the bill to regulate the | ‘winding up of national banks. He explained that the ‘object of the bill was to facilitate liquidation, and that insolvent banks may be honestly and speedily closed ‘Up in the interest of the public, Passed, Mr. Hunexut, (rep.) of Mich., from the Committee on Banking and Currency, reported back adversely the bill fixing the legal rate of interest on national money throughout the United States at not exceeding Six percent per annum and aflixing penalties for its Violation. Pending action on the bill the morning hour expired. HOUSE OF CARE OF THE INDIANS, The House then went into committee of the whole, Mr. Blackburn, of Kentucky, 1m the chair, on the bill to transfer tho Indian Bureau from the Interior to the | War Dopartment. . Seana, dem.) of Ilt., spoke in favor of the bill | and said that out of sixty army officers examined by | the Military Committee all but one advocated the | ‘ransfer, and that out of twenty-nine persons ox- | amined by the Indias Committee but eight opposed the | ransfor. He denied that the transfer of the Indian | Bureau would produce war, and quoted from the testi- | mony of General Sherman’ ana ower olficors of high rank in favor ofthe transfer in the interest of economy and peace. Mr. Cox opposed the bill, suggesting that if the Present system was hell, and the ludian was hel'; and tho lowest deep was in the Interior Depart- ment, the still lower deep that was threatening to de- vour him was to be found in the War Department. | He recommonded the Canadian Indian policy, | under which some 85,000 Indians cost at the | rate of $245 each, while under our system they | cost some $€0 cach, If the Canadian policy were sound, perhaps a policy of peace or economy could be found for the United states. He asked whether the Canadian policy was successful because the Cana- | dian Indian agents were honest and capable or whether | it was because they were treated as an integral part of | the British Empire’ What was wanted was not the | transter of the Judian Bureau to the War Department, but honost agents. Ho thought that there ought to be | wisdom enough to devise remedies for bureau misman- | t, purge the aystem of its putrescence, punish aud “compel accountability without the | transfer of the functions of civil — gov- | ernment to the military. The War Department | he declared, was honey-combed with traud; with tn- peachment hanging over the late head of that depart. | ment, and with a soldier chief m: rate reckless of | just accountability, the House was asked to place the | indian bureau under a system that connected so much fraud with force, If the Indian agencies were to be turned over to the army simply because honest agents could not be found in civil life, why stop there? Why | not give the army control of the Land Of- fico or of the collection of internal revenue? reed the recommendation of the Indian on appointed in 1867 to confide the Indiun | gorvice to an independent department, and to let its | head bea member of tte Cabinet, Then the service ‘would be emancipated from its confused condition; dis- | turbances, outbreaks and wars would then be the ex- ception, not the rule, Horeterred to General Sheri- | dan’s catopaign against the Indians in the winter of 1868 as an expensive one, and its climax (the assassina- | tion of Biack Kettle’s bands and Cheyennes) as an outrage that had no parallel in barbarity. In conclu- ston be declared the peaceful policy as that which was kindest and best. The comittee then rose. Mr. Mitts, (dem.) of Texas, introduced # bill rela- | tive tothe rank of navy officers. Referred to the Committee on Neval Affairs. ‘The House then, at half-past four, took a recess un- til half-past soven, the evening session being for the @onsideration of the Legislative Appropriation bill EMMA MINE. MR, PARK TELLS THE STORY OF HIS NEGOTIA- TIONS IN ENGLAND. Wasuinatox, April 5, 1876, Trenor W. Park testified te‘ore the Committee on Foreign Affairs to-day, relating the circumstances at- | tending the purchase of the Emma mine by himself, | Baxter and others. During their examination of the mine previous to purchasing he gathered specimens of the ore and took them to the Assay office at Salt Lake, ‘There he learned that the ore would pay about $120 a ton, or £87 if acliverod in England. He consid- | their | shape they were passed, and they at once came to the | own party who are anxious to cringe the knee to the | do his dirty work, is not all powerful, was given by the | | of 1,600 that are bad; took at what they could do, As | plete muddle, THE STATE CAPITAL. The Tammany Republican Alliance in Danger. PASO ee BOSS KELLY TO BE ROUTED. The Debate inthe Senate on the New Capitol. Atpayy, April 5, 1876, It becomes more and more apparent every day that the infamous bargain between the Custom House and Tammany Hall, entered into in New York in the early part of the winter, isto be supported during the bal- ance of the session by the Tammany members and | those republicans whom the Custom House controls. | Instead of attending to their business in New York, for which they are paid, Custom House wirepull- | ers have‘ been of late paying almost daily | visits to the Capitol for the purpose of giving | Suggestions to their dupes in the Assembly, and instructing them as to what they should do and what they should leave undone imorder that Tammany Hall may hola its own in New York, and the Custom | House bargain makers be ablo to carry out their part of the contract. As yet nono of the hangers-on of ‘rammany, who look up to John Keliy as their master, have put in an appearance, and it is sald now that the reason for their absence is that the ‘Boss’ has been given to understand by his republican allies that presence here would do more harm | than gvod, and that the gang selected by Wick- bam and Arthur will be ablo to do all tho wirepulling that will be required to crown their plan of campaign with success. But the best laid plans of even Tammany tricksters gang aft a-gley sometimes, They have already received a check which has, fur the time being, completely demoralized them. They suc- ceeded during the past week in getting certain bills through the lower house which Comptroller Green and the anti-Tammany democrats, as well as the republi- | cans in New York who will not be led by the nose by | Cornell or his lieutenants, were opposed to in the | conclusion that it would be all plain sailing thereafter to the close of the session, But they COUNTED WITHOUT THKIR HOST. The name of Tammany ts not a very attractive one to many of the country republicans, und they do not relish tho idea of being classed as Tammany repub- | licans, The result will boa bitter fight before the ses- | sion is many days older between the independent re- publicans of both houses and those members of their Custom House magnates, that thrift may follow fawa- ing and Tammany office holders kept in power. Tho best indication thus tar that ‘Boss’? Kelly’s bargain with tho republicans, who have consented to favorable report of the bill which takes away from the Tammany Mayor the power to appoint the successors of those officials whose terms expire, as the law now stands, before he goes out of office himself. Evory- thing that low cunuing and ingeauity could devise was resorted to by the combinationists to prevent this bill ever coming betore the Senate; Lut, though successful tor a while, they are gnashing their teeth now over the prospect of 118 speedy passage in the Senate by she aid of the two _anti-Tammany Senators and the republicans ' Senators, who are not in the market for the use of any political ring To-morrow tho same Dill will be introduced in the lower house by Mr. Peabody, of the Committee on Cities, und I om informed that there is already an as- sured majority of that committee in its favor who will, eurly next week, report it favorably to the House. ‘Tammany’s republican agents here are not so jubilant to-day, in consequence, as they were the night whea Booth’ succeeded in holding back the bill which Wickham and Kelly are so determined to | have slaughtered. | ‘The prominent republicans from the interlor—members of the Assembly— | are very mignant over the boasts made ! by the Custom House lobbyists that they have the whip hand of a majority of the republicans and that whatever | the “leaders” in New York desire, who are so desirous | 10 serve themselves and to prolong ‘Tammany rule in | New York, can be accomplished at their word of com- | mand. It ws believed that when the fight begins duwn | stairs the combinationists will be routed, horse, | foot and dragoong, and that some fine day not long | joss”? Kelly will wake up to find that tus dear | York, when they mado an nd defensive with’ him and his fol- owers, agreod to sell what they could uot deliver, WHAT’s TO BE DONK WITH THE NEW CAPITOL? { Unfortunately for the happy and uniform completion | of the new Capito! building, every Legislature that lias come here since the foundation Was laid has insisted in | meddling with the original plans and the method of construction, Tho result ts, as Senator Woodin ex- | pressed it, tuat all concerning the building is in a com- One side contends that if the original | designs are carried out the structure will cost anywhere | from $15,020,000 to $20,000,000, The other side holds that if the recommendations of the Advisory Bourd | ‘of architects are adopted, even though a great saving | may be effected therevy, the building will be archi- tecturally ruined, and present, fu the words of Senator Harris, a8 absurd and incongruous an appearance as a man dressed in « sober suit of black with a lady's flowered bonuet on his head. #rom the course of the debate to-day it did not seem as if any Senator had a ered it acheap mine at $5,000,000, From the date | oftheir purchase in April to tho last of August the | value of the ore taken out was $896,000 gross, and { the expenses of working the mine $28,629. The wit- | ness then related hs proceedings in England, where bo | went to soll the mine. Shortly after his arrival there | Fisher & Coates wanted to buy the mine without de- | lay. They said they aiready knew about its value from sales of ore trom it that had been made in England. He thought this was Fan rather fast, but after | honestly teiling Coates be did not know the present condition of the mine, but could vuly vouch tor its | past condition, ho finally yielded to the urgent re- ‘quest of Coates to name his iigures, and told him he would sell jor £400,000 in cash for one-baif of it. up shares for the other hulf; of course, expected the pur. | chase would ve contingent upon a satistactory report | experts of the purchasers’ own selection ; subsequently Coates and the Engimh parties represented selected Protessor Silman to examine and report upon the mine; Park did not suggest Silliman’s name or me tion him at all; Coates told witness Silliman was se. | Jectod as being “the Sir Robert Murchison of America,” Park inquired of Jay Cooke, McCulloch & Co, us to the | ability of Coates and his partner to carry through the arrangement for . Which they had agreed to as 500n as he figures above stated, and was tole in rv t was dowbetul if they could | carry it throug! they bad the famous Albert Grant at their back; witness did not Know whether this was 60 oF not. The witness then rolated facts attend. | ing the failure of Coates to comply with the terms of the negotiation, and said that Pollard informed him question for Coates to raise £400,000, roduced him to Albert Grant, with | whom he and Senator Stewart subsequently had an rant was willing | market, event of the mine away with him, unless own price, Subsequent events were including guarantee of title to the mine, which was | given by Park and Baxter, and con. nected with the formation of the London Emma Min pede oh It there was sale uf Emma M or wuy fraud, © sharp practice jentlemen, the = wit revi aid, under osth, that he knew nothing wh. HM; the was it was sold The a of of the manne Lt Directors for the t ess; the witness referred to the | conducted the busi scandalous reports which had been circulated in Lane | h fea to | don for the purpose of injuring the stock, to Utah of Mr, Will . in order, at the request rath of his statement, port verified, but the discoveries of 01 what had been previously represented; Williams thea | bought 1,000 shares of the Emma Mine stock, | The committee adjourned ull to-morrow. / NAVY INTELLIGENCE, | | wore beyond Wasinsetox, April 5, 1876 | The United States ship Supply saled from Leghorn, | March 20, for Gibraltar. She lad received on board, at Civita Veechia and Leghorn, ali the contributions to | the Centenmal Exhibition, and aiso the naval monu- ment, with the exception of one block, which was too large to go in the bolg It will ne brought over by the bark George Peabody. ihis monumentya memoria | to the officers, marines and seamen of the navy whe fell in defence of the Union, was originally inienued to be erected at Annapolis, but now it will in ali prov | ability be placed in Washington. The Supply was to j meet the Franklin at Gibraltar, ; The Shawmut and Ajax left Key West for Port Royal | April 2, and the Swatara aud Mahop.e were there on | | for Port Koyal on THE DIRECT CABLE Haupax, N. 8, April 5, 1876, Tho steamer Farraday, having undergone repairs, will shortly leave to repair the broken Direct cable, | under: the original pla | ever, to go on and comple! { { clear idea of what course was best to pursue. The fight | among tho architects only contuses the ques- | tion, and as po member of the Senate can | presume to set himself up as an authority in architecture none of them are in a position to de- cide who has the best of the argument, The Commis- sioners of she new Capitol should have becu vested witn authority to make a final decision in the matter, ‘They reported in favor of the plan recommended by tho Advisory Board; but the Senate Committee on Fi.) bance 1khore their conclusions and advocate following out the original dosign. In the debate over the ap- propriation of $1,000,000 = Senator Starbuck moved to strike out tho entire item, and said the building thus far had been according to false methods in the past, anda yadical change should bo inuugurated in the future. He expressed the opinion that vi the $6,000,000 already expended at Jeust $2,000,000 had been uselessly squandered, Mill- | ions upon millions of brick had been put in at $11 and | on the mine, to be made by some scientilic expert or | $12 per 1,000, the regular prico tor which was ouly $8, Sand ‘in ‘untold quantities had been paid for at the rate of $1 a cubic yard, tout plenty of men would be glad to furnish at fitty conte, Vust vupplies of | coment had been paid for at the rate | of $1 50 and §1 80 per barrel that the man who fur. | nished it was subsequently willing to sell, when | brought to the crucial test of competitive ‘bids, at seventy-five cents per barrel, The great leak of all had | occurred 10 the tiem of granite. ‘Ihe remedy ne would | suggest looked to an appropriation of $15,000 or | $20,000, Vians should be prepared tor the completion | of the entire building, approaches and all, and builde be invited to tile proposals tor tinishing the building. Till the opeqing o1 next yoar he would call a halt, and Jet the work cease for the present, Mr. Harris argued in favor of csrrying on the work Tho material used on the building bad all been pur d at the current prices, and as for the building be considered there was nuth- ing in the world lke it for beauty and durability. rard asked if it w wht and proper tu compel ‘apitol Commissiorgrs, with no discretion what. the no heart—and more than that, a work which they al toluvly condemned. It was only just, he claimed, that the present Commissioners should bo released trom the quty or else the modified plans they recommend should be adopted, Starbuck's motion was lost, and one of Gerard's to strike out the provision requiring the commission to compleve the exterior walls of the building up to the rvof, according to the plans upon which it ts now being erected, Was adopted. Tne provision appointing tho Speaker of the Assembly one of the Commissioners of the new Capitol was also stricken out. RUTTER AND CHEESE, In the discussion of the Supply bill this evening in the Senate, Mr. Gerard moved to strike vut the appro $3, ucts of the New York city, whic ave to pay | sam of money for the accommodation of gentlemen, who want a buiiding put up for } Aponseot the State, where they may soow | aud sel) thotr cheexo and butter, | | Mr. Gerard id made a bright and happy Fewer amused all the countrymen, except ir Vedder, of Cattaraugus. who cssayed a reply to Gerard by saying tl pettifogger trom New York could not understand reat good to the country to be derived [rom an exhibition at Philadelphia of cheese presses aud butter tubs, The appropriation was re- | tained in spite of the iact that it is clearly unconstitu- tonal, AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL APPROPRIATION, A sharp discussion casded on another item to pay $5,000 to a keeper of Auburn Prison, who was maimed for lite in quelling « riot among the convicts. Seaators Rogers and Woouin pleaded for the payment of the movey On no other grounds than that it was a case ot humanity. unconstitutionality of such a riations, whieh would open the duor to endiess ications for elee- mosynary aid from the State. The item was stricken out, In regard to the statements made by Superinten- | dent Colville concerning the disposition of certain State property at Quarantine Dr. Vanderpoel desires to say that at the first opportunity he will explain the whole thing satisfactorily. PREIS MORPHY'R CAPRICE. The Committee on Privileges and Elections of the Assembly have held au investigation mto the charge of improper conduct against F@ix Marpby, and will to-morrow report « single resulation of reprimand, the committee being satistied that Felix was under spiritual i Pie wok the om. | chdut or | 8,000 men. Schooumaker and Prince showed the utter | p, » Coart and the districts in which they shall be ctecled low . as toll Sue. &.—There shall be the ox\st!n, a posed of the justices mow in nat ju atinued durinx their respective icin! districts, want to this \. striet in whieh bet N and Six in the Second Judicial district, and four iu each of the other districts. Mr. Patten called up his resolution reciting thed tress among the laboring classes of New York, and asi img the Legislature for some imeans of relief, It waa laid on the table, Senator Baaden introduced a bill providing fora new market in the Fifth Senatorial district, 4 THE COMMISSIONER OF JURORS—ARGUMENT BEFORE THE COURT OF APPEALS YESTER- pay. ALnayy, April 5, 1876. The case of the people ex rel. Dougiss Taylor va, Thomas Dunlap, respgndent, was argued to day before the Court of Appeals. A. Oakey Hall appeared for the 4ppellant and William M. Evarta for the respondent, Mr. Hall, for Mr, Taylor, contended that no power or duty of the office of Commissioner of Jurors—an offlee appointed «= by = judges and supervisors, was never even remotely connected, sines the ehar 1830, with the Mayor, Alderm: anal Common therefore, the office of Commi sioner of Ju the ttle or subject mat of a effarter, n therein waa @ fraud upon the Legisiature ‘This viewsof the case Mr. Hall illustrated by g: a ruamag history of charters ana acts ting to jurors. Mr Kvarts, tor Mr. Dunlap ued to prove that the title of the act under which his client ¢laims to bold his office was “to reorganize the local governments of the city and county of New York,” and that the jury system was part of that local government and there- 1ore constitutionally allied with corporate authority, POLICE RIGHTS AND WRONGS, THE NEW BILL AND ITS PROBABLE RESULTS. TO Tux Evitor oF THe Heraco:— Why do you not come out with an editorial in yout paper against the proceedings of the Police Commis. sioners? I see in your paper the order that was issued yesterday to the force forbidding them to hold any meeting or subscribe any money to pay the expenses of a lawyer to go to Albany and look after their interests, Why, sir, two of the Commissioners have been up at Albany constantly for the past two week. After one of them returned from there on Saturday what was done? Why they altered rule No, 94 so that a man from any part of the State can come hero and be appomted a policeman, What was that done for? Only to buy up the country members’ votes in the way of appointments, What mght had thoy to go to Albany to buy up votes? Ex-Commissiover Disbecker was cen- sured for that very thing, Why should not these Com- missiopers be also censured for it? All this effort to ob- tain power Is not for this time; it is for the next elec- tion, when, unless every member of the force gives up all principle and manhood so us to suit their views, he will be dismissed from tho department and their tools will be appointed in bia place, Now, sir, [ will ask you what protection will the mer- it the unfortunate drunkard have if a policeman can be dismissed at will? Why none. What has a policeman to encourage him to do right? Nothing but his own conscience, ‘Alas, poor conscience! Ifa policeman goes out ons tour of night duty he does not know but that when he returns to the station house he will fing a notice to the effect that his services ure no longer required, We must not expect to find all policemeu troubled with « conscience, Take, for Instance, twenty-iive men out they did in Mayor Wood's time, when they could be dismissed at will—na:nely, go in with thieves and “put up” burglaries on their posts; or should they happen to pick up a drunken man who would bave his wages in bis pocket, upon which his family depended for sustenance dumng the coming we his mone; could be taken from him befere he would get to the station house. Ido nos say it would be done, but it is the temptation the policeman would be subjected to that should be taken into consideration, A policeman could say, l may bo dismissed at an: moment. I will at least make the expense of my uni- form before J do leave.”’ isurglars can ‘give a police- man $500 to shut his eyes and a barglary could be committed, and all they could prove would be that the policeman neglected his duty and dismiss him from the department, which might be done without cause. Now give usa good editorial in your paper, Give a common seaso view of the case, Many of us are waiting to get your views on the subject, and by se doing you will confer a great favor upon Arait 4, 1876, A POLICEMAN, THE PROPOSED REDUCTION OF PAY. To Tux Evrror oy Tux Heraup:— To those who aro pushing the swarm of Police bilfg at Albany, all tending to the reduction of patrolmen’s salaries, a very pertinent question might be put:—“Do you expect men to work like dogs for less than will buy then a crust and a paper collurt” Aud yet that te what they are about to force us todo, Our salaries are nominally $1,200, but out of this uniforms, caps, clubs, be.ts, &c., are to be purchased, loaving the real sum ‘to be handled for domestic purposes less than $1,000, Now, if the proposed reduction und grading is accomplished, the actual sum to be handled will be, by one bill, $850, $800 and $650; by another, $800, $750 and $550, These wages are far too small for any- thing but a ragpicker to live oa at best, Then, sup- ange an officer hus had a bard fight with a criminal aud is uniform is spotled; there will then be over $100 more deducted from his pay. Again, supposo he bas been sick—and, considering nis bard lite, tt, 18 not an unlikely matter—there 18 auvther reduction, So that, altogether, if there is goad reason why such reduction should be made there shou@l be charities established where patrolmen’s families can apply at such times as they may bo suffering—as they must—for the neces- suries of life, ANTEROS, New York, April 4, 1876, “‘DOGGED, BESPIED AND TEMPTED,” ‘ To tux Eprror ov tae HeRaLp:— I bear trom some of our mon that you are willing to aid us im our struggle against injustice. If L were sure of this [I should not hesitate to send my address, but I cannot tellby what channel, unknown to you, it might reach Headquarters, wheu,! shouid be disinissedat ouce, For what? God knows only jor acting a man’s part. Yet, such is the case; we sro watched, dogged, bespled and tempted into charges atevery step, so that we dare neither speak above our breaths nor have an. opinion of oup own—else, off go our head® Morally we are dogs, whipped, beaten, curbed out of all semblance of men and now they want to starve us. Any one conversant with the ianvr workings of this department will tell you the same, This short note, herewith, may at least ¥et people thinking if {t does not save us, and I hope you will ind it im your power to publish it By sa doing you will do us more favor thau we Shall get outsiders ina hurry, Aruit, 4, 1876, a . A TAXPAYER ON THE SITUATION, To tux Epiror ov tie Herano:— ‘There is considerable talk just now in relation to the Police bill, which any thinking man can see 1s a cone Spiracy to put about $150,000 in the pockets of the Mayor and Police Commissioners. The bill calls for Each of those men would to or $200 if they wish to hold their positon and the $1,200 grade, The captains, sergeante and tives would be used in like manner. Mark my Hf Lat bill passes the police force will become ized, and the ety be without prot anda to our country. If there is a bad man in the force and they want to dismiss him they can do so by roundsman in citizen’s dress to watch him, But bill is for the purpose of dismusing good men cannot be caught viwlatiog the rae but because May not suit the Commissioners, Now, str, am 4 policeman, but a taxpayer, and, seemng a gerous couspiracy there is ou foot to put mon the packets of those five ofictals, Leould not ing attention to the matter, The members of the force have proved themselves tu be reliable, Legisiawure should not discourage them. Please lish the name of every member of the wi will vote for the passage ot the bill, J Ick Naw York, April 4, 1876 THE LACTOMETER. The Medico-Iegal Society met last night at No, 12 West Thirty-first street, about eighty members bog Present. The committee appointed to inquire into the condition of the public schools made a lengthy report, which the chairman (Mr. Yeamans) wished to bave considered as merely one of progress, Tho report is referred to in the Heran's account of the meeting of the Board of Education, published elsewhera, Dr. Doremus, one of the committes appointed to re Port on the efficiency of the lactometer as a scientiag ynstrument, took the floor and read the report of the commitiee. He stated, in opening, that all that had been said by him betore the society on a lormer occa- sion regarding the unreliability of this instrument wae confirmed, : “In the opinion that the lactometer is not reliable ag & test,’’ suid the Doctor, ‘we aro supported by the best scientific authorities, Among many ‘the foliow. iy be named :—Warta, ‘Dictionawre Chemie,' u - “ist ian: Hits 5 der \ysiol Analyse’, 1870, p. Vol. 3, 'p. 10m; J, A. 1st ; Chas.’ ¥." Chandler, 5 duly, 1871, p. 20.” lactometer is avery anreliable te affect. . Ky resort time the normal ‘analysis, howe ver, with more certain ices to be elected ax hereinafter pro-