The New York Herald Newspaper, August 18, 1875, Page 5

THE WTO CAMPAIGN. & Long Talk with Governor Allen About It. What He Knows About Finance, Farm- ing, History and Science. “Grant Sure To Be Nominated for a Third Term, Sir.” “Thurman, Pendleton and Hen- daricks Out of the Fight.” Cuticorne, Ohio, August 14, 1875. Chillicothe is one of the oldest towns in Ohio, and was the first capital of the State, It is situated in the midst of the beautiful and fertile valley of the Scioto, directly on the banks of the river of the same namo, and has about 10,000 inhabitants, It is surrounded by arich agricultural region, divided up into large estates, which are owned by old and aristocratic families, mostly from Virginia ancestors. It reminds one more of the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia than a part of a Western State, There are no small farms, and conse- quently a lack of population and want of thrift, Taking the valley through its entire length and breadth and 2,000 acres would probably be an average estate, while many of them run as high as 5,000, These immense farms are poorly worked by tenants, and the owners live a life of ease and comfort cither in the little towns or upon their estates in spacious family mansions, built as far from the main road as eligible location will admit. About two miles south of the town is the farm of Governor Allen, A GRAND OLD ESTATE of some 1,400 acres, near the centre of which, upon the brow of a hill, some 250 feet above the town, stands his Tesidence—a real old castle, built of sandstone, on the plan of the old Virginia mansions, with halls wide enough for parlors and walls strong enough for a fort, and great roomy porches running around the whole building. It’s a full mile from the main road to the house, and you have to follow a straggling road through an uncouth wood, filled with undergrowth, and open ‘threo gates before you really get to é PRUIT HILL, ‘When there, however, you find a beautifal place, fairly clean and neat, surrounded by a profusion of fruit and shade trees, blooming flowers and twining evergreens All around the place are varieties of grapes of the choicest cuts, and in the cellar the growth of years are preserved into fine old wines. From the great, broad porch, upon which the owner spends most of his pleas, ant days, you have a delightful view of the valley for miles around, taking in the town and the country, the river and the mountains that form the background to an extensive and pleasing picture, A DOZEN OLD ESTATES, rich in memories of the past, are under your.eye from here, and more retired politicians live wivhin sight of this place than any other dozen points in the Stato, It was my luck to be at “Fruit Hill” on a pleasant day and with plenty of time to devote to the object of my visit. As | the rickety old hack that drove us up from the depot drew up before the house THE OLD GOVERNOR was the first to greet us. He was dressed ina full suit of black—looked as neat as a pin and acted as smart asa man of forty, After an introduction and exchange of compliments an hour or more was spent at the dinner table, after which we took the porch for a cigar and chat. The party consisted of the Governor, his son-in- law, Dr. Scott; the Governor's Assistant Adjutant Gen- eral, General C. H. Sergeant, an old newspaper man, who served near half a century on the staff of the Cin- cinnati Enquirer, and your correspondent, As soon as we were fuirly under way and the Governor found his favorite position I asked for his views upon the Ohio campaign. i WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. “Certainly,” said he; ‘for the Heranp, why I know well when it first started, I began taking it thirty years ago or more. It’s the standard newspaper of America, I knew the elder Bennett well; we were often together in Washington when I was in the Senate.” The Governor then went on with interesting ‘reminiscences about all the great men of the past with whom he was associated while in public life, and for an hour he kept us mate with his anecdotes. In fact he was always the positive part of the talk, and you only had to give him a suggestion to get a speech upon any question upon which you wished his views. “Beat them, did you say? “Why certainly we will beat them,” said the Goy- ernor, with strong emphasis as I inquired whit he thonght of the prospecta. ‘Don’t the Cincinnati Com- mercial say that Iam a man of destiny and in a close fight sure to win,” facetiously continued the compeer ‘of Clay and Webster; “and, besides, the peéple are with us in this fight, and I do not regard the result as likely to bo close.” . THURMAN’S SPEECH. “What do you think of Thurman’s speech and posi- tion ?”” I inquired. “Well, sir, [ think my nephew has made a mistake, and the people are in no temper to overlook such blunders, ‘Thurman, you know, is a lawyer, and they are much given to special pleading, and are rarely, if ever, states_ men. They are politicians, who make brilliant efforts, perhaps, but never look ahead, while statesmaen always foresee results,” replied the Governor. “What do you think of that part of his speech which says that ‘the financial question is not an issue in this country?’ ” I asked. “Well,”’ said the Governor, pleasantly, “that’s one of his adroit special pleas, of which his speech is made up. Thurman is a good lawyer, you know, But,” said he, warming up, “this financial question is the great issue, Thore is no dodging it, and I stand ready to say that upon its decision the'fate of the democratic party in is State depends. This talk about contraction and a return to specie payment is bosh, sir,’ continued the Governor. A HARD MONEY MAN. “Why,” I suggested, “the papers say you wero NAL HARD MONEY MAN,?? the Governor, “when the in a condition that made such a step possible aid without bankrupting the na- von. Why, sir, when I was in Congress the Secretary of the Treasury one morning placed upon our desks © circular which gave the information that on that date he bad paid the jast dollar of the national debt, and wo had a big jollitication that day at Brown's Hotel | over it, Ofcourse, L was then in favor of specie pay- ments, and would be again if it were not for the debt | hanging over the nation, ButT do not care to go into the details upon this financial question, MY NEXT SPERCH wiil be devoted entirely to that subject, and will be a clearer and more extended view of it than I care to give now,” he continued. “How large a meeting did Thurman have?” he asked, knowing I was present, “About eight hundred,” 1 replied, “L thought so. People have uo taste for stump os- says,” he added. “Why, sir, I never prepared a speech in my life, and never expect to,” he continued; “and such a thing was unkown among public men of my day. What, do people want to sit and listen to a oy reading a dry speech? 1 tell you they wont do it, SENATR REMINISCENCES. “How long since you were in the Senate?” I asked, “Twenty-six years, 1 left the Senate in 1949,” he re- plied, “and never expected to enter public life again, I came home and settled down to my farm duties and atudy. [found great pleasure in scienwiiie and histori- cal research, and devoted myself to it with pleasure and protit, 1 was often importuned to leave my seclusion and go back into politics, but always refused, and would not vow be Governor of Ohio except for the appeals of rsonal friends, whose solicitations I did not feel at iverty to decline.” The Governor then went on for an hour giving a his- try of his political hermitage, and of incidents con- nected therewith, and of his carly life, his struggle for rominence, &c, He said that he had often said to his iends that “to be President was a mall honor, and hardly worth the effort necessary to the place, To rule whe solar system, with the sun for a capital, might be rome temptation, buteven that scemed insignificant labor beside the study of vast scientific subjects.” The Governor then went on for an hour or more about history and science, making applica- tion of historical facts to tho present condition of the country, and closed by saying, “if we don’t get back in this country to cheap government and honest living, then the country is gone, The politicians think they rute the people; but, sir, they will nd that it’s the poople that rule the world.” ut THR OWIO CAMPAIGN. ‘Your campaign in Obto is like! tant bearing on the next President J asked, “Yes, sir, This ign is the beginning of the contest, the commencement of the great strag- to have an impor. contest, 18 it nov??? ational ale between tha peonla. the politicians and the money NEW YORK HERALD, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 18, 1875.—TRIPLE SHEET. power. Tho success or the defeat of the democratic party in this Stato involves far graver questions than mere personal advancement or” local yy success, Upon a proper solution of this financial question de- nds the welfare of the whole country, and this fight in Ohio is the very beginning of the great and important controversy. The tendency of the money power is for a stronger government, and that is the reason General Grant is sure to be nominated for a third term, The: can depend on him to sign any bill they can get, 4 and they will finally settle down upon him as their most available man, You see,” continued the sage of “Fruit Hill,” “Grant will go into the Republican Convention with all the Southern States solid for him, and perhaps a few votes from some of the Northern States, while the remainder will be divided between Morton, Conkling, Blaine, Bristow, &c, After a few unsuccessful ballots, under the manipulation of the ‘hard money men,’ they will give us Grant and a hard money platform in prefer- ence to a democrat, and the result will be his nomina- tion, The men of Wall street may not reason this out in this way now, for they are not usually men of politi- cal planning, but bfow wiser heads ‘will give them the cue. ‘THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, “Who do you think will be the democratic nominee for President?” I asked, ‘Well, sir, Ido not like to be quoted as to names. I do not want to criticise any man’s position, for there are so many probable candidates; but two ‘things aro certain. First, that whoever is nominated must run against General Grant; second, that whoever becomes the democratic candidate must be a man whose record has always been one of straightforward consistency to the democratic party and the questions that are now all- important, q Tay say right here, however, without reference to any other person’s position, that, looking back over my public service, there is not a vote or pub- lic utterance of mine that has not been entirely con- sistent and borne out by the logic of events, I tell you,” said the Governor, warming up to the subject, “the people must and will have men who plant them- selves squarely upon the issues of the hour and discuss them without fear or favor; and I don’t think any one will accuse me of giving out my views upon any ques- tion with an uncertain sound,”” The Governor would not say what he thought of Pen- dleton’s or Thurman’s chances for a Presidential nom- ination, or even Hendricks’; but a clear twinkle in the veteran’s eagle eye, as he discussed the subject, left the impression with me that he thought. their chances very slim. In fact, Iam persuaded that he himself would be rather willing than otherwise for a Pregidential nomina- tion, if he wins this gubernatorial race. TWENTY-FOUR HOURS OF TALK, During the twenty-four hours spent at the Governor's hospitable mansion there was a multitude of subjects discussed ; for he is full of vitality and information, and loves to dispense it for the benefit of those who are con- tentto listen, He never tires of talking history, ancient and modefn, and is full of anecdotes about’ Calhoun, Clay, Webster and Benton, and which he relates with P3—5 zest. His manner of speech is very impressive. le has a wonderful memory, and talks days and dates’ for things past and present with great facility. He loves to talk finance, and does it whenever opportunity offers, He declares “that all that is necessary to make paper money of gold value is faith in the ability of the govern- ment to meet its obligations, and that more credit and not more gold, and greater’ confidence in the gover ment, is what'is necessary to give stability to the busi- ‘ness interests of the country.’ ‘THE NEXT FIGHT, “The next great fight,” says the Governor, ‘is to be whether those who pay the taxes shall levy them, or whether those who receive them shall do it. Now, those who receive the taxes say how much shall be levied, and when and in what manner they shall be col- lected? The bondholders and the money power pay Jess than one-fifth of the taxes of the country, and yet they have so manipulated and controlled legislation that the people who pay four-fifths bave had virtually no voice in the matter of the levy or collection, This should and will be changed, and’ we are this year in Ohio beginning the contest that is to give the’ people some voice m these matters, Next year it will be con- tinued, with General Grant representing the money power and the nation’s tax receivers, and some other man representing the four-fifths of the taxpaying people of the land, Who can doubt the result of such a contest either in Ohio or in the nation? I tell you, sir, the people and not money will rule this country hereafter.” When the veteran statesman gave utter- ance to these words he grew more in earffest than ever, and, running his long fingers through his snow white hair and standing it straight up, he looked the counter- part of Andrew Jackson in some of his most emphatic moods, ‘The Governor would not say much about Governor Hayes, his competitor, and contented himself with the eneral questions Ihave above given, He said “that @ should not leave ‘Fruit Hill again to take part in the contest until the 28th of August, and that he should then keep moving till the end of the campaign,” In reply to the question as to whether he would be a Presidential candidate and the intimation in the news- papers that. he was kind of running things for Thur- man’s benefit, the Governor said with warmth, ‘1 am not in the way of any man, and I am not out of the way for any man,”” POLITICAL NOTES, Minnesota republicans have ignored both tho Ramsey and the Davis interest, and have surrendered division to party interest. Mr. Pillsbury, the candidate for Governor, has no affiliation with either wing. Republicans in Maryland are hopeful of success, be- cause in 1872 the majority for Greeley was only 972. But Greeley is not now a candidate in Maryland, and tho ropublicans may be calculating upon wrong figures, Ohio republicans are accusing leading democrats of being wealthy, and it is asserted that Governor Allen is worth $200,000, and that Carey, Ewing, Thurman and Pendleton are all wealthy men. The Catholic question has arisen in Ohio, but the Catholics who control the democratic party in that State have allowed the party to denounce the scheme for dividing the school fund, A Boston journal has “private information” that New York democrats purpose to contribute $200,000 toward a fund for re-clecting Governor Guston in Mas- sachusetts for the purpose of making capital for bim as acandidate for the Vice Presidency. This is sheer bosh, and did not come from a politician, General James A. Garfleld, member of Congress from Ohio, is of opinion that unless inflation 1s killed in the October election the issue in 1876 on the Presidential question will be inflation or gold. General Garfield has recently returned from California, where he was very much impressed with “bits” and ‘two bits.” Now it scems that it was Speaker Blaine who, by recognizing Randall on the floor of the House as the leader of the democrats, gave him prestige for the posi- tion of Speaker of the next House, To California go certain great speakers to aid in the democratic campaign in that State. And among them are Senator Thurman, Hiester Clymer, Sunset Cox and Governor Walker, Meanwhile, in that State, the re- publican leaders—Sargent, Gorham and the Guber- natorial candidate, Phelps—are fighting as men fight who are in the last ditch, Gorham, the Secretary of the New Jersey Senate, is certainly doing brilliant, ringing campaign work; while Senator Sargent, with a desperation which is always characteristic of him in a doubtful fight, is giving his opponents some terrible blows, His reputation in his State seems to be gaining, especially since his warfare on the railroad of which he ‘was once said to be the creature, General Bidwell, the independent candidate for Governor, is receiving the aid of Senator Newton Booth, who is fighting for the Presidency. The Oregon republicans have nominated Henry War- ner for Congress, on a platform advocating legislative control of railroads. Lucy Stone writes to Mr. Loring asking that the Pres- ident of the United States shall, on the 4th of July, 1876, conduct Lucretia Mott, Lydia M. Child and Francis D. Gage upon the Centennial platform under a black flag, commemorating the fact that women are ranked with idiots, felons and ignorant men, Philadelphia is likely to havea very strong prohibition ticket. Colonel Mosby asserts that he is a strong republican, The Atlanta Zerald calls upon Mr. A. H. Stephens to declare whether or not he will become an independent candidate for Governor of Georgia, Ex-Speaker Blaine’s enemies are reviving the Crédit Mobilier affair, of which they declare that he has never cleared his skirts. Mr, A. D, Banks, of Mississippi, candidate for the Clerkship of the national House of Representatives, ‘was formerly a journalist, A Mississippi paper says the Minnesota radicals have nominated “Pittsburg” for Governor. Not very much like Pillsbury, But what’s in a name? ‘The Oregon Republican State Convention is to be held to-day, August 11, ‘POLITICAL EVENTS. Calls have been issued for political conventions in various States of the Union, as follows:— Weoyespay, August 18.—National Industrial Con- yontion, in Indianapolis, ‘Taurspay, August 19,—Virginia Colored Men's Con- vention in Richmond, Wrovespay, August 25.—National Greenback Con- vention, in Detroit, Mich, Webxespay, Sept. 1.—Reunion of ail former Union and Confederate soldiers in Caldwell, Ohio, to continue three days. Wepnespar, Sept. 8.—Pennsylvania Democratic State Convention, ih Erie, Waoxespay, Sept. 8.—Wisconsin Democratic Stato Convention, in Milwaukee, Wepnxspay, Sept. 8.—Maryland Republican State Convention, in Westminster, Wen%espay, Sept, 15,—Nebraska Republican State Convention, in Kearney, to nominate three candidates for justices of the Supreme Court and six candidates for regents of tho University of Nebraska, to be votod for at the general election to be held in accordance with the provisions of the proposed new congtituuion on the second Monday of October next. Monvay, Oct, 25,—Natioual Hard Money Convention, im Cinginnati, Ohio THE EMIGRATION INVESTIGATION. MESSRS, B. CASSERLY AND MAUJER BEFORE SPEAKER M'GUIRE'S COMMITTEE YESTERDAY-— OLD TAMMANY TRY REPUBLICAN REFORMERS, The Legislative Committee of Investigation intg the alleged irregularities of the Board of Comumissioners of Emigration, met yesterday morning in Castle Garden, Speaker McGuire'in the chair. The first witness called was Commissioner Maujer, who swore to his haying been appointed by the Board in 1878, He served on the Ward’s Island and Castle Garden committees, The supplies on Ward's Island may occasionally have been overcharged; when this happened, the contractor's bills were cut down by the Finance Committee, In two instances inferior goods which bad been furnished were rejected and returned, There have been at times differences of opinion among the Commissioners respecting the internal management of affairs, and a consequent want of harmony in action followed. There was no great difference on account of religious opinions; the chapel on Ward’s Island was the source of some trouble, it being a question whether the place should be free or sectarian, ‘The disagreement was finally adjusted by means of a resolution adopted by the Board. + The rate of head money will not affect immigration in any way. Steamship companies might combine to di- vert the tide to other ports of the country, but would fail to accomplish their object. The true impulse to immigration is to be found in the friends of people in Europe, who send them funds and otherwise show the advantages that immigrants reap by coming to this city. The reduction in the number of employés made by the present Board was desirable and timely; though it could not have been with advantage carried out earlier, The new Board was inexperienced and needed help from experienced employés; but when the Board became “posted” it reduced the force. Occasionally experienced persons were discharged and inexperienced ones were appointed in their places— notably Mr. Casserly was displaced and Mr. Webster ap- pointed by a majority of the Board, An impression prevailed in the Board that Casserly was in league with certain officials who Were taking COMMISSIONS FOR THE SALE OF TICKETS. ‘This.impression never took the form of charges, but it was a pretext for action on the part of the majority of the Board, Mr. Alvord—Was it alleged that Mr. Casserly had turned to be a republican ? Mr. Maujer—It was so reported, and republican mem- bers opposed his removal on political grounds. The Finance Committee called the Board’s attention to the matter of excessive salaries, and the question was referred back to the committee,’ who then graded salaries and recommended a reduction in the force, Immigration fell off very much in 1872, and the per- centage of decrease was more felt in New York than anywhere else throughout the country. ‘The witness thought that this did not originate in high or low head money, If the rate of head money were raised to $2 50 it would not divert a single immigrant from New York. The profit which steamship companies make on immigrants is larger than that gained from either cabin passengers or freight, and this is proved by the fet that companies having freight at Boston can transport immigrants there from New York, paying their ex: penses; the business of the Board might have been more economically managed; the falling off in immi gration is principally due to ‘the acknowledged depres- sion in trade and bad times all over the United States, Mr. Bernard Casserly was recalled, and testified sub- stantially as follows: ‘The reason why witness was dismissed he attributed tothe fact that his place was wanted by the Custom Houso republicans, He was astonished to hear Mr, Maujer insinuate that charges might have been brought against him, If this was so why did Maujer vote for him, believing, as he must, that the witness was liable to charges of adishonorable nature? If Maujer voted for witness under these circumstances he was unfit to hold the position of Commissioner of Emigration, ‘The witness now read a set of complimentary resolutions passed by the Board in his favor when he ceased to bea member of it, ‘The Chairman did not admit that Casserly had been removed on account of politics,’ ‘Phe witness, continuing his testimony, said that the committee of 1872 attributed to his efforts some of the success which they had accomplished; during the war it was charged that witness was a copperhead, because he interfered with people enlisting immigrants, who were seized and sold {nto the army like so many head of cattle; he was but doing his duty in_ protecting them; in those days no man outside the Uniou League Club was safe; there was, and is, a prejudice on! tho part of Custom House officials to any one having an Lrish name, Mr, Geduey—Mr, Chairman, is all this to go in evi- dence? Chairman—I suppose so; it is Mr, Casserly’s state- ment. The witness said this present Board came into office in, June, 1873; the payroll of employés in the old Board’s ‘time averaged $11,200 per mouth, and that of the new Board for a corresponding period of five months, was inore than $11,300; and’ would have ex- ceeded ‘this but for the bankrupt state of the Board’s revenues, and an undeniably excessive PRESSURE OF PUBLIC OPINION, which called for a reduction in salaries} the sum of these amounted to $20,000 per annum in 1874; the Board were bankrupt and sq represented them- selves. to the Legislature, ‘Tho — employés on the list for removal were old — hands who knew their duty. A quarrel esulted in the Board because three of the Coninissioners . wanted to retain old cmployés and dismiss newly appointed politicians, The old Beard, called the Tammany Ring Board, only turned out twelve per cont of their hands in the space of two years; the new Board turned out twenty per cent of thei inseven months. ‘On pay day, when tho clerks in Castle Garden received their salaries—in October, 1Si4—a certain Mr, W. H. Smith stood at the side of the Treasurer's door, and as the clerks got their money, asked contributions to aid im THE ELECTION OF BIGLIN, Smith was then a clerk in the empioy of the Board of Commissioners of Emigration, These tacts were re- ported to the Commissioners, aud Mr. Forest de- nounced such action, which was solely for political pur- poses. In the previous Board, in 1870, letters wero sent from Tammany Hall asking for assessments, The practice then obtained of sending receipts to parties wha were expected to contribute; the witness had re- ceived such a receipt this year. ‘Phe act of Smith last year was unprecedented, ile was, it appears, the ap- pointes, of Stevenson, Mr, Murphy, the ex-Collector, wlped to get CONTRACTS FOR BIGLIS ‘The deponent now thinks that foreign members on the Board should be limited to, the e ise of advisory action only, and that all nationalities should be repro- sented. The witness here took great credit to himself for whut be had done in favor of the immigrants, and said that but for him the Board would not now be in ex- istence, Mr. Alvord and the chairman objected to the eulogy which Casserly pronounced upon himself. The deponent continued his statement, saying that from 1853 the amount of salaries gradually went up from one year to auother, until the highest point was touched in 1871, In 1872 the amount of salaries de- creased, but grew larger again in 1873, Mr. Gedney—Do you think the salaries, as at present fixed, too high ? high, and believes that, even. if immigration increased, there are now clerical and other help enough employed to meet such @ contingency, From and since 1873 re- form was and 18 necessir The Secretary to the Board of Commissioners of Emi- gration now submitted to the cominities a statement showing the number of employés at Ward's Island and at Castle Garden who had resigned or had been re- moved from the month of May, 1873, to March, 1875. The numb teen by resignation, eight by removal and two de- ceased. The corresponding changes in the Castle Jon Committee were—resignations, four; removals, sixteen; by abolition of office, fourteen. The report, however; says that reappoiuments were subsequently made to the last named category of offices, The committee then adjourned, KESHER SHEL BARZEL. ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE’ GRAND LODGE OF THE MYSTIC ORDER OF THE IRON TIE. ‘The annual session of the Grand Lodge of the Kesher Shel Barzel, or tho Mystic Order of the Iron Tie, was begun yesterday morning in Pythagoras Hall, The lodge was called to order by Harris Rosenthal, the Grand Saar, J. Jamison, Raphael, D. D. 8 M., acted as secre- tary. When the roll was called it was found that 120 lodges were represented, . An impressive prayer was then offered by the Rev. Dr. Wolf, of Rochester, N, ¥. ‘Tho business transacted the lodges prosent and the creation of seventy-seven oquent address, presented a flag to the Grand Lodge, which was accepted by the Grand Saar, the flag being afterward raised on the flagstaif above the building, At the afternoon session the Grand Saar, Mr. Harris Rosenthal, read his report reviewing the condition and workings of the Grand Lodge during the past year, The Secretary reported 129 lodges in good standing. The Board of Endowment reported the total amount of receipts during the year as $27,006 40; expenses $24,148 19, leaving a balance of $2,048 21, which, with the surplus of last year, makes $9,888 36 in the lodge's treasury. During ‘the 'year the deaths of twenty-four brethren of the order wero reported. The following officers were then elected for the ensuing year:—Most Worshipful Grand Master, William Bounett; Deputy Grand Master, N, Nathanson; Grand Secretary, Simon Meyer; Grand Treasurer, Joseph Harris; and Grand Naasi,’S, H. Mildenberg. These OFFICERS WERE APTERWARD INSTALLED with all the imposing ceremonies of the Order by Most Worshipful Past Master J, P, Solomon. A handsome set of diamond studs and a ring valued at $1,000 were then presented to the outgoing Grand | Master, Mr, Rosenthal, accompanied by series of reso- lutions engrossed in an claborate manner and heavily framed, ‘The debate on the Supreme Grand Lodge and the elec- tion of a Board of Endowment takes place to-day on the Ward’s Island Committee was thir- | was of aproliminary character, and the early part of | the session was devoted to examining the credentials of | new Past Masters, Mr. George Gottheimer, in an elo- | Mr. Casserly certainly docs not think thom’ too | Only candidate in the deld, ASSASSINATED. President Moreno, of Ecua- dor, Murdered. A SOUTH AMERICAN TRAGEDY. Does It Precede Anarchy ?—Opinion of Mimster Flores, SKETCIT OF MORENO’S LIFE. ——— ° Who Will Succeed to the Chief Executive Chair. Private despatches wore received in this city late on Monday evening announcing the death by assassination of Sefior Gabriel Garcia Moreno, President of the Re- public of Ecuador, ‘This startling intelligence was brought by special courier from the capital. to the Pacific coast, thence by packet to Panama, and by cable to this city. Tho announcement is in the baldest terms, merely stating the fact of the President’s death by mur- derous violence, This event, which promises most serious results to our South American sister republic, occasioned the utmost consternation in the hearts of the few Ecuadorians in this city to whom the news became known yesterday, They all await anxious trepidation the fuller details of the crime and its immediate consequences at tho cap- ital and throughout the nation, which will be looked for by the next Aspinwall steamer. Fears are entertained as to the results upon the government, which, in the disorder following this grave catastrophe, may be in danger of being forcibly seized by some ambitious soldier or supplanted by some scheming politician in deg fiance of the constitutional provisions, ‘That there aro well founded reasons for these fears will bé fully per- ceived from the subjoined conversation of a Hxrarp representative with the diplomatic representative of Ecuador at our capital. INTERVIEW WITH SENOR PLORES, AHeratp reporter visited Fort Washington yester- day afternoon, where Sefior Antonio Flores, Minister to the United States for the Republic of Ecuador, has his summer quarters, which overlook the calm waters and picturesque scenery of the Hudson, The gentleman re- ceived the reporter in the most cordial manner, and, that the conference might be strictly secret, proposed a walk through a beautiful grove within a stone’s throw of his residence. The conversation, as they walked in the shade, pro- ceeded as follows Revorrsr—And so the President’ of the Repubiic which you represent has been assassinated ? Minister Froxes (surprised)—You have heard of. it? Ipresumed the only telegram communicating the in- telligenco had been received by myself. Rerontzr—Is the report true? Minister FLones—I have no doubt of it, My tele- gram was not official, but was received from a per- sonal friend, who could not be inerror, The message was very brief, and was forwarded’ to me by cable from Panama, It simply said, ‘QE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED.”? Rerorter—What do you think of it? Minister Fronrs—It is a sad, sad ocurrence, It is the first time that acrime of this nature has occurred since the formation of the Ecuador Republic, My father was President in former years,and during his administration conspirators endeavored to assassinate him. The plot was discovered, however, and tho at- tempt failed. This horrible occurrence establishes a dangerous precedent—a very dangerous precedent in- deod, Revorter—What effect will this assassination havo upon the government? Minister Frorss—tI cannot tell. I simply know what my telegram says to me—viz., “Our President is no more.” Indeed, sir, I have no further particulars, I only wish I had. Rerorter—But surely you, being an intelligent native of Ecuador, and understanding, as you do, the senti- ments and passions of the populace, must immediately, upon the receipt of the telegram, have formed somo idea of what would be likely to transpire? Minister Frones—Porhaps you are right, I fear there will be revolution, or, at least, attempts at revolution, But I hope not. It would dreadfully retard the develop ment of iny country, already go far behind the other republics of the world. Reportsr—Do you imagine that now, while we aro speaking, a revolution has already begun in Ecuador ? Minister Frores—Oh, no! no! Had a revolution been inaugurated the same party who forwarded the telogram announcing the assassination of the President would have informed me of that fact also. Iam sure that had a revolution been simultaneous with the assas- sination a cipher telegram would certainly have ac- quainted me with the full details. RerorteR—Tell me, if you please, what wero the causes which led to the assassination. Minister FLorers—They are numerous, and run back for many years. Gabriel Garcia Moreno served ono term of four years umder the old constitution, being | elected in the year 1861, for a term of four years, which term expired August 10, 1865, Under provision mado by our new constitution, Moreno was, in 1869, again ted President for the term of six’ years, ‘conse- quently his term expired this year, indeed, only a few weeks ago. RerorteR—Previous to the expiration of his term, in his private communications to you did he state that he entertained expectations of being re-elected once more ? Minister Frorzs—Yes; but I made no reply what- ever to this letter. I sent him no congratulations of any kind, Our new constitution restricts the Presidency to two terms, and although Moreno had served only ono term under the new, he had also served one under the old constitution, and his desire to serve a second term under the new order of affairs was virtually a longing for A THIRD TERM, Reronter—He succeeded, did he not? Minister FLores—Succeeded? Certainly! Why not? There was no opposition; none whatever. He was the ‘Two gentlemen ventured to start an opposition ticket, but they were exiled by him. ‘His clection was unanimous. ,Rurorren—But all ‘the people did not vote, Did they Minister Pores—No; those who constituted the op- position took no interest in the election whatever, aud hence did not vote, RuvowreR—Who will succeed Prosident Moreno? Minister FLorxs—Our constitution is diferent from yours. In case your President dies you have a Vico President elected by the people, to succeed him, Our Vice President is not elected by the people, but, on the contrary, is appointed by the President himself. RurokrER—Surely your newly revised constitution must have made some provision for succession in case of disability or death, which might occur to your Chief cutive? Minister Frorrs—Certainly. varies materially from yours. Senate succeeds the President on his demise, RuvonteR—Tho President of your Senate assume the Presidential chair? Minister FLones—He would were he in Beuador, but ly he is in France. I don’t know who will 4sor in this unfortunate conjuncture. Revortek—The person who gave me informatign stated that you were quite likely to succeed Presiddnt | Moreno. Minisier Frones—It is not an enviable position, Ho | who accepts that office will find between the country as itis, and the country as it should be, a barrier as high as the Andes, RurORTRR—Toll me plainly your opinion Moreno. But our succession Our President of the then will . of President MORENO’S CHARACTER ANALYZED. Minister FLones—Moreno was, in his way, a somo- | what remarkable man, He was’ of fine presence, and possessed bravery and courage proportionate to his physique But he was cold-hearted, —_re- Ieutloss, domineering, and often _inhamanly cruck | Ho was ultramontane in religion and | ultra-conservative in polities—he knew not the meaning of the spirit of liberal institutions, Ho ruled by fear, and not by love; the people, while ac- knowledging his bravery, ‘stood In terror of 'his power, He would always have his own way; he would permit no one under him to offer the slightest suggestion this way or that, Ho ruled by impuise, not by judg. ment. He deduced his conclusions rashly, and henco was often unrelentingly orw Me aspired to a third term, From. the moment L learned of his ambition in this direction, I said to myself, “Our Presi. dent is dead.” I at once sont in my resignation a8 Minister to'tho United States, For some time I received no answer, I sent in my resigna- tion again. He was elected for a third term, As I said before, there was no opposition; but, no sooner had he | assumed the chair, than the cable brings mo almost the | same sentence my heart spoke when I learned of Mo- | reno’s insane ambition‘ Our President has been as- sussinated(’? I can say no more. I musi await fur- ther advices. I regret that the murder took place. But the successor of Moreno must be one who will build up our credit abroad, and not impair itashedid, He must bo one who, by building lines of travel and by developing our national resources will en- courage immigration; and, above all, he must be ono *who will increase our CHURCHRS AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, and nonrish in all the various departments of our Re- bublig, social, political and religious. those elameuts of peace, order and harmony which exist in yours, We, asa Republic, are far behind the age; our leader must be be who ean lift us up in the progress aud light of the Bineteenth century. SKETCH OF THE LIFE OF PRESIDENT MORENO. Garcia Moreno, President of Ecuador, whose career has just been terminated by a tragic death, was cer- tainly one of the most remarkable men South America ever produced, He wasacompound of tho most ex- cellent qualities aud the most odious @fects—a fanatic of the Torquemada school—violent, cruel and bloodthirsty Nevertheless, as Hassaurek says in his book on South America, “Garcia Moreno was not without redeeming qualities, He was entirely disinterested in money mat- ters, and expended all his salary for public purposes.” It seems, however, that this noble employment of it ceased when he had children born to him from his second marriage. Mr. Hassaurek adds that Garcia Moreno was probably the bravest man in South America. His valor seemed to belong to the heroic ages. When the Ecuadorian man-of-war Guazas re- volted, in July, 1865, supported by two other steamers, the Bernardino and the Washington, Garcia Moreno seized by force the Royal Mail Packet Talca, embarked on it with thirty-four lancers, surprised the unsuspect- ing vessel at anchor at the mouth of the Guayaquil River, boarded her with his men and killed every man on board, He then took possession of the two other vessels, and by this bold stroke suppressed the revolu- tion which 86 seriously threatened his power, Gabriel Garcia Moreno was born in Guayaquil, the principal port in Ecuador, in March, 1821, and was, therefore, about fifty-five at the time of his death, He had been in power eleven years, and just been re- elected for a third term of six years, commencing August 10, 1875, From his early youth he gave evi- dence of distinguished talents, and even before his introduction to the world of _ polities he had become conspicuous by tho flattering allusions _ of Humboldt in. his “Cosmos,” in reference to the daring explorations made by him (Garcia Moreno), on the 15th of January, 1845, to the crater of the volcano Pichincha, in company with the Fronch engineer, Sebastien Wisse, The samo year he entered tho political arena, for the first time, with the most violent opposition to the government of General Flores, whom they called foreigner, from his having been born in Venezuela, and who had been re-elected for a third terth, After the resignation of President Flores Garcia Moreno made the same opposition to his suc- cessors and was twice exiled, At this period ho opened, gratis, a course of lessons on chemistry, at the Uni- versity of Quito, with a laboratory of his own, and was subsequently elected provost of the university. In May, 1859, during his absence from the country, a revolution broke out in Quito, and Garcia Moreno was elected Suprome Chief of the Republic in connection with two other gentlemen, Carrion and Chiriboza. Garcia Moreno assumed 'the entire power, took com- mand of the revolutionary forces, was defeated at Tum- buco, fled to Peru, and cawto back through the moun- tains of Carbacoas, A third party then arose at Guayaquil, It was sustained by the Peruvian President and gave up to Peru, by the treaty of Mapasingue, two- thirds of the Ecuadorian territory. Garcia Moreno saw at once that, in this state of things, there was but one man capable of saving the Republic, and that was Gene- ral Flores, still an exile, He recalled him, intrusted him with the command of the forces and Flores was vic- torious at Babahoyo and took Guayaquil by storm. A national Convention, presided over by the same Flores, was convoked in 1861, and Garcia Moreno was electe for a term of four years, His daring exploit at Tambuli had taken place the month previous. In 1866 Garcis Moreno was sent as Minister of Ecuador to Chili, and very narrowly escaped being assassinated at Lima.’ In 1869 a pacific pronunciamiento put Garcia Moreno again at the head of the government, He was elected for a term ofsix years wrth the faculty of being re-elected, Moreno had pledged his honor in a proclamation that he would not accept the Presidency, Nevertheless he did accept it under the pretence that no oath was binding which could do injury to the country, This breach of faith, the flogging of a mulatto general (Ayarza), the unconsti- tutional shooting of General Maldonado,’ Doctor Viola and seventeen other individuals, together with his con- duct in the war with Spain (a mistake ho subsequently repaired), his violation of the agreement made with thio foreign holders of Ecuador bonds, and the consequent destruction of the public credit’ of Ecuador, are the great crimes of Garcia Moreno’s career. In 1861 he was impeached beforo the Convention for high treason, in consequence of letters written by him to the French Chargé d’ Affaires asking the protectorate of France for Ecuador at the time the grant of two thirds of the Ecuadorian Territory was made to Peru by the Guayaquil faction, But the Convention acquitted him on the plea that letters written in a fit of despair at seeing two thirds of his country given up to a foreign Power, and which only went so far as to offer to consult the people as to the protectorate, could surely not be ac. counted treason. Garcia Moreno labored greatly and very successfully to give an iinpulse to:public works, to tho building of roads, and he also did all he could to promote public education, He would not tolerate the slightest fraud or corruption, But he was a man behind his age, bigoted, full of prejudice, deaf to reason and good advice, im: patient of the least contradietion, and governing ‘only y terror. He was.a compound of Louis XI. of France and Philip IL. of Spain, transplanted into a South American Republic of the nineteenth century. WAS HE MURDERED? JUVENILES SUSPECTED OF HAVING THROWN A COMPANION INTO THE HUDSON. When the news of the disappearance of little Johnny Abrams was spread on Sunday some suspicion attached to several boys who said he had certainly been drowned off the Fifth street dock, Hoboken. The lads who were sure of this said they knew nothing whatever aboat the boy’s whereabouts on Saturday, the day he met his | death, When the blackened corpse was recovered yes- terday Mrs, Abrams, the little fellow’s mother, went to the house of two boys named Kelly, who are reported to have been with deceased. When she entered one of the lads ran away and the other shouted, “I did not throw him in!’?” He then declared that the deceased had been in his company on the Fourth street dock, but left him and went to the Fifth street dock, Men who were fishing on the latter dock at that time deny that Abrams was there atall, Chief Donovan had the Kellys taken to the station house, where they were examined, They persisted in saying that they knew nothing of how Abrams died. Two other lads were also examined, but they threw ng light on the subject, The general’ im- pression is that the youth Abrams was thrown from the dock into the water and that those who witnessed the act have been well schooled to deny all knowledge of it Four lads agree in saying that Abrams went toward the Elysian Fields, but as the shore there was lined with fishing parties he cout not have been drowned thero unnoticed, The investigation will be continued to-day. A NOTORIOUS RIVER THIEF CAP- 'TURED. The New York river thieves who have been preying “on the spoils of the vessels lying at the Jersey City wharves are coming to grief every week. At two o'clock yesterday morning Roundsman Rappelyea dis- covered a notorious thief, named Henry Corneilas, alias “Dutch Henry,” endeavoring to land something at the pier near Chambers street, ‘The thief caught sight of the officer and retreated with the boat, The officer, how. ever, kept a close watch till he caught the robber and lodged him in the Ninth precinct station. The boat containing the stolen property was then examined and ‘was found to contain nine bags of coffee, which were taken from the wharf at the Erie depot, Judge Mo- Grath made ont the necessary papers and gave them to Detective Clos, who proceeded to Trenton to obtain a requisition fromm Governor Bedle, “Harry” will find himself this forenoon fast in the clutches of Jersey jus- tice, COLLISION ON THE NEW JERSEY CENTRAL RAILROAD. Yesterday morning a collision occurred on the New Jer- sey Contral Railroad which, fortunately, was not attended with loss of life. As the Newark train started on its regular trip at 6:25 A. M. and had gone bat a short dis- tance the engineer discovered @ train of passenger cars backing upon the same track. He at once reversed his engineand blew his whistle; but he was too late, the consequence being that the locomotive struck the rear passenger car, telescoping it, and knocked the remain- | der of them off the track, which was torn up for a con- siderable distance, delaying the eastward bound trains for over an hour,’ The passengers in the Newark train were greatly frightened, one of them in particular, it is | stated, having Jumped through the window, carrying the sash along with him, By nine o'clock the track was all clear, FATAL RAILROAD ACCIDENT. On Monday evening, at Monmouth Junction, the piston rod of the locomotive of a tratn belonging to the Lehigh Valley Railroad broke and penetrated the boiler, At the time of the accident @ young man was sitting in tho caboose, and after the excitement attend ing the accident had subsided some blood was observed in the place where the man was sitting, but he had dis- | appeared, A search was mado, but ‘only resulted in finding one of his hands, ‘The remainder of his body could not be discovered, from which it was concluded | that he had been knoeked off his ‘seat and blown to pieces (where?) The above account is given on tho authority of one of the passengers, SERIOUS ACCIDENT, ‘Alad named James McPhillips, residing in Hamilton streot, Harrison, N, J., on Monday evening, while waik- ing across the Morris and Essex Railroad bridge, which crosses the street on abutments raised at each side about thirty feet, fell through to the pavement under- neath. Medical attendance was at once procured, but there aro sliaht hones of the lad’s recovery. | some four or ily | completed; but at th 5 SAP AN. 2 British Commercial Relations with the Extreme East. Popularity of Billiards with the Japanese, ae ARRIVAL OF THE DANISH ENVOY. Toxto, Jeddo, July 18, 1875. A great deal of feeling has been excited in Japanese government circles by the report of remarks made by the President of the British Iron and Steel Institute at the annual meeting of that association in London May 6, The burdeu of this gontleman’s address appears. to have deen a lamentation over the rapid jncrease of competition by various foreign nations, and especially by America, He candidly admitted that “English iron and steel were practically excladed from many impor- tant markets in Europe and from the United States,” and that the effect of the policy of those countries was “severely felt.” The conclusion which he en- deavored to enforce was that the English must ‘ne. cept the position in which they were placed, and Prepare to seck new markets for their produce in countries which, even if they had the will, had not yet the power, to impose restrictions on British trade.” So direct a declaration, upon such high authority, of a determination to control tho commercial operations of Eastern nations so that they shall conduce to English prosperity at all hazards, has given a new in)potus to the chronic irritation of Japan upon this subject; al- though, as is usual here, the sentiment is not allowed to manifest itself in active agitation. The intentions of England respecting the further development of her trade in Asia are ently well understood, but it is seldom that an open ex jon is given to them by persons holding _positic like that of Mr, Menelaus, the speaser in question, No one who has looked into the subject ean fail to gee that the ext of traffic in this region, with very little delay, is a point of vital nec England. The most eminent of living political mists has recently estimated that, by virtuoof her coal mines and machineries, that country now commands the services of 500,000,000 non-consuming laborers, “capable of a larger amount of work than could have been performed by the whole human race in the days when Charles IJ. sat on the throne.’? The cnormous quantity of force of work thus impelled cannot now be checked, and yet without opportunities of disposing of the goods produced manufactures must necessarily cease, Itis LIPE OR DEATH FOR ENGLAND. She must go on producing as she has done or her people will starve, And she must find or make markets for her wares. She has lost the United States and many European customers, and she looks with hope only to the East, where she believes that the various govern- ments have not the courage or strength to regulate their trade in opposition to her imperious dictates. The programme does not, of course, menace Japan alone, ‘Turkey and China must come in for their share’ of arbi- trary oppression, and even India, an integral part of the British Empire, is not to be allowed to puysue unmo- lested the course of supplying her own manufactures. Every competition that England can crush out must disappear frotn the face of the earth. And it is prob- able that the first strenuous struggle will be made here, for the reason that Japan is the only Eastern nation. that is firmly disposed to resist the spirit of domination andencroachment, When the contest upon the tariff'ques- tion does come it will be fierce and bitter, for the great trading Power of the West is not more desperately de- termined to force its commodities into these islands than the government of Japan is firmly resolved to re- ject them until they can be received upon terms of equitable justice and with a fair recognition of inde pendent Japanese rights. AN OPPRESSIVE SEASON, ‘This is the most oppressive season of the year in Tokio. Although the thermometer seldom rises to the New York midsummer point the heat seems to be of a far more deviliuing and exhausting quality. Every- body seeks relief, if not by journeys into the mountain districts, by as nearly complete a cessation from bdusi- i cable. The public offices are all closed oon, and the government employés sur- render themselves from that hour to predetermined re- pose and unrelenting inactivity. The city is very dull and lifeless of au alternoon., In the evening it revives, andthe official and aristocratic jeunesse seck pastime in mild diversions of foreign origin, chiefly billiards, The popularity of this game has become quite remark- able, and no young gentleman's social education 1s con- sidered finished uniess he has a tolerable acquaintance ty to wono- with its mysteries. The various hails devoted to this amusement are crowded every night, and it is dificult to find an — unoccuyied table after dinner for even the briefest moment. On the common platform of skill in billiards all distinctions of rank are set aside and forgotten, At the 3 the leading Japanese hotel, you may sec m the haughty okt nobility, ‘known a8 kuge, exchanging shots with the markers of the establishment, Daimios, for the period, think more of a successful carrom than of the glory of their ancestral crests, Tho former Lord of Chosin, who is a devoteo, seems at times to be impressed with the coincident significance of his family arms, which cousist of three balls and a straight bar thatemight serve as acue. The other evening | found a young officer of about nineteen, in the neat uniform of anarmy lieutenant [gn about the ivory spheres: with a ‘disregard of the law: angles and rebounds that was quite imperial, Andso it might be. He was THR MIKADO'S YOUNGER BROTHER, and was playing the best he was capable of with the Vice Secretary of Foreign Affairs, who beat him as mer- cilessly as le woald have beaten a plebeian. Some of tho Japanese have attained a good deal of proficiency in the art; and among the best is said to be General Saigo, of Formosan fainc, who, it may be remembered, is about to descend upon Philadelphia in the peacetul'ca- ity of Commissioner to the Contenary Exposition. Perhaps he may be induced to enter the lists for the championship while he is there. If he could not se- cure it himself he might send for some of his coantry- men, who would put in a very fair claim for it. Tho only class that seems to be denied the opportne nity of resting in this leated term is the military. The vigorous exercises of their daily drill are unabated. It must be hard upon them, especially as they add an artificial heat, apart from that inflicted by the sun, to their mancuyring field, by burning a great quantity of +powder "upon it, Butthe army must be brought to perfection, ap- parently, no matter who suffers, And really it is get- ting very far along on the road to perfection, so far aa promptness and accuracy in all evolutions’ are con- cerned. One of the regular parade grounds is just within range of my windows, and L see regiments, brig- ades and divisions almost every morning, accompa nied by bands i musicians, which, if not equal to the best in New York, may rank fairly with the average, performing their tactics with a briskness, Yooont 4 and precision that are not surpassed by the most effi- cient of our volunteers. The Seventh regiment can offer a finer physical display, on account of the superior stature of its members, but it cannot excel any one of the battalions stationed here in the execution of the minutest details of drill, If Japan should have the oo | casion and the opportuaity ever to strike a blow with the little army she is now moulding it will be a resound. ing one I do believe. General Rasio, + THR DANISH BNVOY to the Japanese Court, bas been received with unusual attentions, owing to the honorable and just attitude ob- served by the Sovereigu of Denmark at the time of the , Formosa troubies. The Chinese, through certain agents, had suceveded in effecting the purchase of an jron-clad from that country. The sale had actually been last moment, before the delivery bad taken place. the King himself interposed, in conse- tuenco of representations made by Samesima, the japanese Minister in Paris, and forbade the transfe He would pot have the impartiality of his country com- romised Tu (his way at such a crisis, The act has not een forgotten, and the aew Bnvoy has now received proofof the warmth with which it hag alwa; ap- preciated, A REVOLTING CASE. | ALLEGED BUTCHERY OF A MOTHER AND IN- FANT--ARREST MIDWIrE. Last Tuesday, the 10th inst., Mrs, Ursula Wick, living at No, 306 East Sixty-sixth street, was taken sick early in the morning with labor pains, Dr. Von Meyer, of No, 115 West Twenty-second street, and a midwife, named Eliza Altenhain, together with Dr. Theodore Webber, of No, 225 West Seventeenth street, were called in, and in endeavoring to assist and relieve the lady tore the child's body from its head, leaving the latter unborn And the unfortinate mother to die of exhaustion soon after, During all this time (the alleged butchery lasted hours) nota drop of any anaes whatever was administered to the patient. Yesterday the (wo doctors and the midwife were ar- raigned before Curonor Croker at the Coroner's office, fad an investization of the horrible aMur was begun, Dr. Von Meyer cold the Herat reporter that the child's head und body ¥ pulled apart by main force, but the midwite swears the eeck was sovered with instruments ‘The cage will be up again today, it having been ud journed sterday afternoon, Meanwhile Dr. Von Meyer is held to bail in tho sum of $500, The details of this affair ace wo horrible and disgaah ing for publication, Suffice tt to say Uhat 00 case 40 re voiting in all it hideous details bas been reported vo the OF TWO DOCTORS AND A coroners (ur several years