The New York Herald Newspaper, October 25, 1874, Page 5

| | { THE ECLIPSE. NEW YORK HERALD, SUNDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1874.-QUADRUPLE SHEET. oa ——— Diana’s Total Obscuration This Morning. pa lS THE SHADOW OF THE WORLD. Glimpses at the Lunar Orb’s Topography. ANCIENT FEARS VS, MODERN KNOWLEDGE The Moon’s Nature—Her In- fluence on Earth. THE PHENOMENON PHOTOGRAPHED. Six Views of the Passage of Pale Cynthia Through the Shades. The Celestial Scene as Performed Before the Herald Critics. eli td Six Photographs of the THE TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE. At Different Phases of the Phenomenon of this Morning. | At 12:50 A. M. ties upon her face carefully determined. Lying upon our backs and viewing the moon through the telescope, we find that her moun- tains, like ours, have their summits first lighted by the rays of the rising sun, while the plains | beneath, and their rade, rugged sides, are in the dreariest and deepest darkness. Its hemisphere, subjected to the scrutiny of the Rosse and Herschelian telescopes, has been | mapped with the greatest care, The RAGGRD SUMMITS OF THE HILLS, At forty-eight minutes past eleven o’clock last might a faint shadow passed over the surface of ‘tho moon, and 8 little while a/ter her fair face be- @ame totally immersed in shade, She had not @onned 60 thick a veil before in eighteen years, and while she wore it she became al! the more in- teresting because of her dusky and sombre cos- tume. We can well imagine the anguish and ter- Yor of those, ignorant of science and the laws which govern the movements of the celestials, ‘upon beholding one of them gradually disappearing, ‘whirling from brilliant radiance into total.obscur, ity, changing the aspect at once of both earth and sky and then rushing back to light and brilliancy again from behind the gloomy barners, We can well understand how the barbarians are wont Bpon such occasions to crouch in terror-stricken ‘under the rays of the sun, glow and sparkle with wondrous beanty, As she changes her course, the black shadows of the massive rocks creep down into the valleys, until the sun has reached the zenith, Then the shadows steal up the towering crags, hiding the plains below, until at length the gun sets, leaving the hemisphere tn total aark- groups, and, while tearing their hair and mutilat- | ness. By measuring with a micrometer the ap- Mg their bodies, cry aloud upon their imaginary, | parent sizes of those shadows, we are enabled to impotent gods to deliver them; even to us, among | determine the heights of tne mountains which whom the printing press has rendered science | cast them, in the same way as we would deter- popular and universal, a sight so extraordinary | mine the height of a church steeple by meusuring and phenomenai as that which occurred afew | the length of its shadow, and observing at hours ago is one calculated to fill the spectator | What angle the sunbeams fell upon it, une with wonder and awe, even though he be a savant | range extends above a level country, and, nd understands that all he sees proceedsfrom | known as “The Apennines,” ig about 200 Ratural causes and after certain fixed, unchange- | miles in extent. These are visible when ‘able laws. The different aspects and phases of the moon at 4ifferent periods were a source of great per- plexity to the ancient astronomers, but the mag- mifcent instruments of modern science have re- | moved all these, and enabled us to map out the moon and gaina clear conception of everything shat appears upon its surface, | WHAT IS THE MOON ? | | the moon passes its first quarter, and present scene of unsurpassed beauty, with their allvery ridges and pitchy ravines, The thousand hues which deck the sky and clouds on our planet are utterly absent from the moon. Some of the moun- tains rise to a height of 8,000 or 19,000 feet—a heignt far greater in proportion to its size than are the Himalayas to the size of the earta. In many places solitary peaks tower abruptly toa “Posseasing, as we all do, a great deal of curi- | height of 6,000 or 1,000 feet. The cavities excite ‘osity,” says the able and eloquent Professor 0. | Still more admiration and awe than the craggy BM. Mitchel, “no subject has excited so deep an | hills, Some of them ‘stuk to a deptn of one, two interest as the actual condition of the facg of the | and three miles. Owing to the moon, Every one desires to know whether tne | BOWL-SHAPSD APPEARANCES other worlds are like our own. Have they oceans | of these the theory has been advanced that they are the craters of extinct volcanoes, which view, ‘nd seas, lakes, rivers, islands and continents ? | Does their soil resemble our own? Does vegetable | as it finds an analogy in the physical nature of the other planeta'y bodies, confirma the belief that at Mfe there maniest itself in every variety of grass and flowers, and shrub and tree? Are there | one time tnere existed on the moon a violence of extended forests ana epicy groves, filled with | chemical action, fraciures and gigantic upheavals mullitadinous animals in this far off world? And, | of matter such us have never been known on above all, are the bright orbs we see over onr | cur own ,sicbe. withiq the memory of man. heads inhabited by rationa! beings like man’” | The darker spots of the moon were once supposed Concerning this iatter question science thevrizes | to be lake# and seas; but bois supposition is nd presumes, but it does not actually know. | untenable. One of these spots ts circular tn onte “The moon, destitute of both water and atmo- | line and hasaloity range of hills on tne western “phere” says the modern ectentist, “is destitute | and southwestern sides. The range gradually also of any form of life imbued with the faculties | sinks in the east, anda sloping beach leads down which distinguish men.” If a person could be | toa surface smoother than any lake. Into this wafted to the chilly suriace of the moon (supposing | there seems to fow 4 river of great magnitude, him to be enabled to survive the loss of our terres- | extending back into a country dotted with a trial atmosphere and to withstand the dreadful | hundred isiands, and then dividing into two temperature of 460 degrees below zero which pre- | Dranches which no telescope can trace back be- vails through the space beyond the regions of our | yond a distance or fifty miles, atmosphere) he would find not man, woman nor | THE VOLCANIC THEORY enild; no anima) life of any description; no rush- | of some of the central craters 1s tolerabiy weil ing of rivers, no rustling of forests, no moaning of | established. One of these, named Copernicus, winds. No songs of birds, no sound of any de- | near the eastern limb, 18 situated near the Scription would fall upon hts ear. Everything | Equator, and presents all the appearances of an wouid be bleak and still as death. He could not | extinct volcano. A little to the east of this 18 hear the sound of agun, though it were fired of | another similar one called Kepler. Near the at his ear, for there is no atmosphere along whose | moon's southern limb is another, named Tycho, “palpitating bosom” it is possible to convey | Such circular ranges have sometimes a | gounds to the brain. All the oxygen gas which | diameter of fifty miles and a heignt of once enveloped its fair surface has long since | three mues. The greatest heignt of any lunar been devoured by the elements existing thereon, | mountain thus far observed {ts about four ‘and there is no longer any of the vital faid re | and a quarter miles, From some of the maining. The change from day to night is instan- | apparent volcanoes, tnere issue streaky radiations taneous, there being no twilight. [fever waver | which extend in all directions to great distances rushed through her dark, deep valleys, it {s now | across the deepest vaileys and depressions, They | study of every branch of the sciences, noticed | At At At 3:16 A. M. 2:40A.M. 2A.M. 1:24 A. M. equinoctial and soistitial points and the obliquity of | 1ew hours hence ia to take place. The heavens the ecliptic, but aiso advanced a theory of eclipses | are beginning to become clear; the stars substantially the same as that of our own times. | increase im number every hour, and at There yet remain works in the Oninese tongue | this time our Queen of Night i# ready to which were written 200 years before Christ show- | put on her dark ana sombre veil. The ing that the periodic times and revolutions of the | last remnant of obscurity, will, I belleve, lunar orb were Known to them at periods far anterior to that ancient date, The most skilful astronomer that ever China produced, who bore the euphonious cognomen of Tcheou-cong, lived more than 1,000 years before the Christian era, gna he spent whole nights in contemplating the “motions of the everlasting suns’? and the phe- nomena of occultation and eclipses, It is proper to state, however, that thé GOLDEN AGE OF ASTRONOMY soon passed away in that Celestial country, and that one of their subsequent emperors issued a bar, barous decree that all the books in the Empire should be burned except such as related to agri- culture and medicine, The fundamental epoch of astronomical history among the Hindoos was a conjunction of the sun and moon, which took place in the year 3102 B,C. Present calculations confirm the statement that such conjunction ac- tually then took place. At the present time the people of India calculate eclipses from a date ex- tending back into the misty era of 5000 years ago, the accuracy of which computations far exceeds (with regard to the solar motion) that of the best Grecian astrono- mers, Tho motions of the “refulgent lamp of night? have tmdeed been calculated from the space through which she passes in upwards of 1,600,000 days. The cycle now known as the Me- tontan (of nineteen years’ duration), which comes to us through the Greeks, 1s also used by them. Hip- parchus collected several accounts of observations of lunar eclipses and the WIDESPREAD AWK AND TERROR with which they were wont to be regarded, Kings and emperors saw in them the interposition of a superhaman power, the fall of a dynasty or the advent ofan impending national calamity. Pro- found as was the terror inspired in the breast of the noble savage, who saw in the fall of a cataract the leap of 6 spirit, and in the peal of the echoing thunder “the hammer clang of an exas- perared god,” their consternation and aiarm were tenfold increasea at the prospect of being forever deprived of nocturnal light by the obscuration of the moon and of beat and light by the conceaiment of the sun. £ven in the blazing days of later civilization the dread which those eclipses created finds fitting expression in the lines of Milton wherein he speaks of the sun, which In dim eclipse, disastrous twilight sheds On half the nations, and, with fear of change, Perplexes monarchs, —from which it 1s apparent that even the power- ful ones of the earth were not exempt from the fears and apprehensions of their untutored subjects. The only persons who seemed in some degree free from such apprehensions were those who devoted themselves to the pur- suit of astronomical knowledge. Men like Pytiragoras, Archemides and Hipparchus, whose notions of the immortal gods were not 80 well de- fined, recognized in the numberless celestial phe- nomena tie operations of a iew general laws, ac- cording to which the neavenly bodies went their own eccentric ways without the special interposi- tion of one of the gods, Hipparchus, who gour- ished 140 years before the birth of Christ, being the only astronomer who applied himself to the that the moon moved siower in her apogee (when she is furthest from the earth) than when in her perigee (when she is nearest to the earth), anob- | servation which has received ample confirmation by the discovery of the universal laws of attrac- | tion and centrifugal force. Besides collecting all | the accounts of eclipses previously given by THE EGYPTIANS AND CHALDEANS, he calculated all that were yet to take place during | a space of six hundred years, These accounts and | tables passed into the hands of Ptolemy of Egypt, and were by him preserved in his Almagest. Ptolemy, availing himself of the abundant ma- transiormed into colossai glaciers which can | are probably high ridges of great reflective power. mever meit, and which, even tf they sould | These phenomena are repeated ail across the be dissolved, would fail to rush downward with | visible surface of the moon, forming the massiva the terrific fury so common to the Alpine masses | and glorious orb which has been the theme of so ‘of ice and snow, decause standing on the moon | much poetry. In size the “moon only is one- objects have only one-sixth of the weight they | fiftieth of that of the earth, but her mass 1s only would have when placed on our own flobe. A | one-cightieth. man Of 120 pounds, avoirdupois, would find that | INFLUENCE ON THE TIDES, he only weighed twenty pounds on the moon. In Relatively small though this mass be, it neverthe- addition to this advantage of diminisied gravity ! less exerts an attractive power saficient to lft he would find that it took the sun fotrteen and a | the immense mass of waters on our giobe from hall days to rise and set, thus furnisiing @ day of | their normal position, causing the oceans to oscil- this length and a night of the same duration, | late np and down and generating the familtar oc- During this long night he coutd riew the earth, | currence of tides. It 1s true that the sun 18 mil- | which never rises or sets, but ty constantly vis- | lions of times more powerful in his attraction than Able to that portion of the moor which is turned | the moon, yet his influence on the tides ts trifling towards us. The earth wonld 4ppear as @ vast | compared tothe moon's, The reason of this 1a moon, thirteen tunes as isge aS our moon | that there is less rato between the seems to us, and woula furrish light during the | sun's distances from the midday and midnight | commencement and end sf the might. At the | portions of the earth than there is between the beginning of nicht our ear/a would be @ half moon | Moon’s distances from the near and remote sides on the wane, gradually dtinishing, until at mid- | of the earth. The result is that the moon's at- night it would pe a dar¥glove encircied by a faint traction Is least at the remote side of the earth ring of light, which by 4egrees would develop into | and greatest at the near side. Hence the ocean a@ crescent and adyasce to the half moon stage, | bulges out at those opposite regions, cansing high the ‘when the sun would again rise. Hence the earta , tides at same instant on opposite | would present the ame phases toan observer at | sides of tie earth, At points half way | the moon that wold be presented to ua by the | between those places there is low tide. | moon, i! the dinpial rotation of the earth were so | Tue time which clapses from one nigh tde | retarded and agusted as to leave the moon con- | to another is twelve hours and twenty-flve min- stantly visible one of our hemispheres. But as ; utes. It would be exactly twelve nours but: for the same henisphere of the moon is always turned | the continned motion of the moon eastward, caus- toward the sarth, it fohlows that a person remain- | ing a deiay of twenty-five minutes every tweive tag on thefemote hemisphere ceala never obtain hours. a view of the earth and could not witness the OTHER INFLUENCES EXERTED BY LUNA. concealpent of the sunlight which took place this | The term innatic 1s derived from the Latin name morning. If he couid bring a locomotive into | Luna, which signifies the moon, because persons requistion he would oe enabled to leave his | afllicted with madness were supposed to posimon on Thursday might, and, at the rateot a | be infuenced and, aggravated at the milé per Minute, trave| round to the middie of the | recurrence of the new moon. Persons 1uaminated aide in time to observe the eclipse this | subject to epileptic and cataleptic fits are likewise morning. If he were then to take nis departure | known to be attacked more violently at the same for this awful world of ours, traversing space wii | period. Wood cut at certain phases of the moon the same velocity, he would not land nere ior the | is more liable to rot than when hewn at other neXt six months, for the moon ts at a distance of | periods, and changes of the weather are more 237,000 miles from us, The famons telescope of | likely to take place When the moon enters her Lord Rosse in Pursonstown, ireland—the most | respective quarters than as any other | powerful in the world—reduces this immense dis- time, These and many other phenomena tance to sucha degree that the Innar orb seems are to thia day subjects of wonder, and 1 | only forty miles off; and there are telescopes tn | this country through which we can view it agiwell aa though we were within 120 miles of it Whe | those mysterious influences which are propagated actual diameter of the moon is about 2,000 miles. | through the tnvisibie ether and communiceted to RESULTS OF TELESCOPIC OBSERVATION. | men in & manner that forcibly proclaims the gov. Through our telescopes we can see that her sur- | ernment of one Infinite Astronomer before whose face is diversified with hill and dale, lofty moun- | Wondrous dispositions of material and spiritual 4ains and mighty cavities, with broad plains and } force all human powers, physical and intelectual towering isolated peaks, very similar to the fea- | alike, must pale. tures presented upon the surface of our own | ‘THR MOON IN PAST AGES, earth. Nay, so far bas human science been de- Itis asserted with good authority that as’ far veloped that Luna’s elevations and depressions _ back.as the accond century before the Christian have been exactly modelled, her mountain eleva | era the Chinese not only made catalogues of the | tons measured and the depth pf the mighty cavi- | Axed stars, with their positions in solation so the | . remains, perhaps, for the electrician, or the ex- pounder ofsome more subtie force, to aceount for | tunately preserved from the great burning of the terials thus placed at his disposal, became one of the most devoted astronomers and made observa- tions of the moon incessantly from his observatory in Alexandria, His work on tne supject was for- | Alexandrian Library by the Saracens, and was translated into Arabic, A. D. 827, and subsequentiy into Latin and Greek, The phenomena of the hort- zoutal moon were first discussed by Alhazen, who thence showed the importance of the THEORY OF REFRACTIONS in astronomy. Then came the still more import- ant euggestion first advanced by the Nuremberg astronomer John Werner, that longitude could be readily determined by observing the moon's dis- | tance (rom the fixed stars. A simple analogy will | tilustrate his pian. Whena boat ona dark night | floats upon the waters of the Hudson, the occu- | pants thereof can readily tell whether they are | drifting to the right orto the leit and also how | much they have drifted, by observing the apparent | Motions of a steeple along the stars, Suostitute | the moon for the steeple and the analogy ts com- Diete, The moon being millions of times nearer to us than the fixed stars, will appear to two per- sons standing on the opposite sides of the earta | to be at different distances from a given star. A HAZY SKY. The evening was extremely hazy, and up to | nine o’clock the prospects of betng able to catcn | the tainteat glimpse of the phenomenon were | very slim indeed, After nine ofclock, | however, the haze began to scatter into gray patches and nazy clouds | fringed with pale light, As the night wor@on, the | sky cleared and the muddy, faint giobe could be discerned through the vapory atmosphere. When the moon entered the penumbra, towards eleven o'clock, the efMecta were not visible to the naked eye after her entrance {nto the perfect shadow, the olouds rolled out from a centre a8 if in obedience to the phenomenon and untoided the ord to view. There was then jnsta small patch obscured as in figure 1. THE ECLIPSE AS SEEN IN THE CITY | lio’clock P.M, | The earlier hours of the evening have been dark and hazy, There is nothing in the appearance ofthe moon, nothing tn the concave of the sky to | Joud pne +o anticipate tie phenomenon which & | ziness of the night the view we got is a full one. have passed entirely away, and the face of the sky presents a surface clear and unsullied. Away up there in the clearing sky swings the moon, ap- parently as ignorant of the great change which is to come over her as is he who, !ailing to study his almanac, has during the past tew days neglected to purchase the HERALD, Oct, 24—11:48 P. M. The moon at this hour is just entering the penumbra. The telescope enables me to view It ac- curately, and to my eyes it appears of a dark cop- perish color, but sg fains jn yolume that he who was not watching for it Would not know when it had come, It dims the moon’s surface but slightly and only toa faint and almost imperceptable ae- gree aifects ite radiance, « Oct, 25—12:50 A. M ‘The dafk shade is at this hour just beginning Its attack. Viewing our midnight queen through the telescope at this precise moment, she at first sight appears like a huge frosted cake with a@ pleco bitten out, No wonder the ancients imagined that unseen dragons were devouring her during the eclipse, for her appearance from second to second 18 as if some hidden, rapacious mon- ster were eating her inch by inch, She is really removed from me the distance of 287,090 miles, but the telescope at my service brings me so near to her that I can see her rough, ragged surface, with its spots, its mountains, its vales and its craters, The sightits at the same time grand and appalling; grand in the reflected radiance thrown upon the moon from the suo, ana appalling because of the apparent ruin and desolation which the moon’s suriace presents, I can sec its tall, tower ing, dreary peaks, destitute of life and every form of vegetation. The mountains are not like those of our mother earth, though it Is said the moon’s Appenines some- what resemble ours, The peaks are rough and broken, their edges harsh and ragged, as though they were piles of sharp, irregular stones waoich chance had heaped one upon the other in con- fasion snd disorder. OCTOBER 25—1:24 A. M. Just About one-half the moon is now immersed in the earth’s great shadow, as in fgure No. 2 It will be noticed in this photo- graphic view that the features upon the moon’s surface are accurately preserved, and a picture rendered exactly as it appears. Ia this instance the volcanoes look like deep basins; their walls appear ragged, and their floors are im some Instazces level with the general surface of the moon and in others below it. I can see in the centre of these floors of the craters huge | peaks which ascend upward like round pyramids, the edges of which are jagged and broken. OCTOBER 25—2 and 2:40 A.M. | The diagrams 3 and 4 are pnotograplic views of | the moon, and represent her just as she appeared a@ moment before she was totally eclipsed, and the time in which she begins to emerge from the shadow. In these two instances we simply sec two rims of light, each of which represents a sim- ple crescent, or, in other words, a meniscus lens, OCTOBER 25—3:16 A.M. | The moon at this hour is half way out of the shadow and appears pretty much the same as in photograph No.2 Her peaks, distinct in their awful ruggedness, ana her dead craters, black with their yawning depths. Despite the ha- | 3:60 A, M. At this time figure 6 presented a very similar | appearance to figure 1, The moon was just emerging from under its cloud, and pre- sented @ clear and bright silver appearance, except the latter part of its disk, which seemed held by the goddess that in eighteen years | had not wooed her, She was coy, however, and | the man that little children are taught to believe rules ber kingdom granted no concession to her jover till he nad waited for 1,000 years. Astronomers promise us at the end of time that the cold, pale moon shall be clasped in the dark embrace of a total eclipse. In looking through the telescope at this time the light was similar to that presented upon looking upon an ice glacier. it was reaily | painful to the eye. AT CENTRAL PARK a large number of persons had congregated to witness the eclipse and hear an animated dis- course by Professor Draper on the phenomenon that will not occur again tor years, How- ever, these goodly people were doomed | to a sad disappointment, for Professor Draper did not appear, nor were they | allowed to go to the top of the Arsenal building. Many of them, upon tne suggestion of a Park po Iiceman, then took ap their line of march to the Reservoir Observatory, but there they met with no better success. No astrono- | mer presented himself, and cold and disgusted, they left for home, believing it to be a moon hoax, and thoroughly ‘impressed with the idea that a moon eclipse was a newspaper sell to keep honest people out of bed. At Mount | Creamer | further the St. Vincent the scene was about the same, only people there got profane, and newspaper reporters were sadly at @ discount. On the strects aiter | midnight things were lively; every- body who could stand the chill of an | October morning was looking at the moon | wo see it eclipse, but the man in it looked coldly down upon them with an air that | seemed to say, I’m doing no trapeze business ona hot air balloon to-night, The fog lifted at | forty-five minutes past twelve o'clock, the man in the moon winked an eye and the frst penumbra was passed, THE ECLIPSE AT WASHINGTON. = Sea The chances for observing the eclipse at the Od- servatory are very smail, The heavens are over- cast, and though the moonlight ts clear enough to read ordinary print or paid bills, ts is doubtful whether the sky will be free of clonds, at least enough to definitely observe the points of contact and departure at the auspicious moment, FATAL AOOIDENT, James Kelehar, @ painier, aged thirty-five, resia ing at No. 211 West Twenty-seventh street, while | painting the front of the building No. 453 Seventh avenue, yesterday afternoon, accidentally fell from the scaffolding to the ground, a distance of over forty feet, receiving injuries from which ne died shortly afterward. The body waa renroved to the residence of his sister, No, 48 Apring stree| and the Ooroner notified, ' wii rm | Morrissey knows full “A BITTER PILL” “Sees” Morrissey and “Goes One Better.” THE LIE PICKWICKIAN. The Senator’s Description of the Ex- Congressman on His Marrow- bones to William M. Tweed. HOW DID CREAMER VOTE IN 1870? No Human Gore Shed as Yet, but Coffee and Pistols May Be Expected. At precisely twenty-flve minutes past twelve o'clock yesterday, Senator Thomas J. Creamer might have been seen ascending the winding brown stone steps of the Manhattan Club, in Fifth avenue, accompanied by @ H&RaLD representative, in search of information regarding the now raging condict between Mr, Creamer and Mr. John Morrissey, which, i it continues much longer, may possibly assume proportions as great as those of the Second Punic War. Passing through tne | main hall he was iraternally greeted by a fashion- ably attired young gentleman, who questioned the 5 Be. voila of the odious Election tews mas our ott to-day in the general elections, Ais conduct in iat Tespect was on @ Jevel witb bis action tu leading » degraded mob @ distance of over tnree thousand miles to England to overawe and intimidate an American pugtiist, John C. Heen: 8 Old antago- nist, who was to do battle with champion of England, Thomas Sayers. This t8 what Mr, Mor- rssey Calls his American fair play and fair dealing to one of his own fraternity. HOW DO YOU FEKL, MR. CREAMER? Hera.p R&PRESENTATIVE—Mr. Creamer, have you any answer to Make to the several charges made by Mr. Morrissey that you were Tweed's man, and that you sold your vote at a high price on the charter measure ¢ Senator CREAMER (turning around from his con- templation of the Prenc’ flats)—As regards the charge thas I sold my vote for the chartei of 1870 the record will show thas I wi one of the four Senators in that body who voted for all the amendments to periect it against the direct interests of Tweed, The late Mr. Horace Greeley, Who Was at Albany at that time, together with Samuel J, Tilden, the present can- cidate for Governor of this State, were in favor of anew and proper charter, if accompanied with the passage Of a new election law that would pre- vent ballot box stufiing and false canvassing tn this city, and |appeai to Mr. Samual J. Tilden tosay i1 I was not the Senator who firmly insisted on Wis having a hearing, together with Mr. Greeley, in Opposition to the wishes of Mr, Wiliam M, Tweed. CREAMER AND TWERD, And I also appeal to Mr. tilden if it was not the Senaror who tnsisted on their being heard before the committee on this very same question. My opposition to Mr. Tweed. a8 he himself would tea- tiy if placed apon the stand, was always open, manly and defiant, And Mr. Tweed will to-day regret. should he happen to read this conversa- tion, that he did not take my oit repeated advice, as when I nave said to him, “For God's sake, Tweed, remember that it ts n0t a reason becauso you hav@ power that you should abuse the trust placed in you.” DID YoU Do Ir? HERALD REPRESENTaTIVE—Then, Senator Cream- er, if 1 understand you correctly, you have often opposed the measures proposed by Mr. Tweed? ‘Senator CREAMER (With a glow on his face, and quickly)—Yes; 1 fought this man Tweed to hia face When he was all powerful, and now that he is stricken down both by iriend and (oe, would gladly lend my hand if it were possibile to alle~ viate his sufferings through ingrates who fawned on him and licked nts hands while in power, and whom he sent to Congress’ and placed in position, amd who have turned, against him and are soe png to make capital against the man who had formerly nourished and‘ fed them, Does Mr. Morrissey forget wnen he was on his marrow bones beaging for mercy, through his iriend, John McBride Davidson, to William ‘Tweed, asking thas his business should pot be! interfered with by closing bis gamoling house? My course in the Legisiature of 1870 was ap- proved of by every journal in the ctty of New’ York. They complimented me and approved of the stand that I wook, in their news columns and: editorially. Several of these journals have ree peatedly quoted extracts irom the strong and earnest speech that I delivered in favor of th Election law of 1870, with complimentary alluston toit, Such is my record and answer Morris- sev’s charge that I sold my vote on the charter o£ 1870, HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—Well, then, Mr. Creamer, how about Mr. Morrissey’s general charge that you had voted for ali of Mr. Tweed’ corrupt schemes? Senator CREAMER (vigorously puMing bis re~ galia)—Ifa distinct Cg we was made | could mora easily answer it, and I defy him to make one, My ‘course while in the Assembly was‘ marked by a determined opposition to the Broad», way Surface Railway and other like schemes, an T have in my possession at thts day letters fro! Mr. Alexander T. Stewart and other citizens of high character warmly approving oi my course in; kind connection and recognizing my claims to their credit and confidence, While in the Senatet the most exciting and what was considered to bet the most corrupt legislation of the day was the legalization of the miultons of overis- sues of Erle Ratlway stock against which my vote stands recorded and my speeches aret algo on record in opposition to thas gigantic scheme, {n all its details, So much for my connec« tion with the Legislature; and I don’t think thai Morrissey or any Of bis confederates, with shell greedy and avaricious lust so strong and inherene that it places them outside of the pale of the soct~ ety of respectable people, would have done thi same under similar circumstances, A HIGH PRICED SENATOR, But tor this I claim uo credit, and 1 would noe now call attention to this matter were it not for the fact that 1 have been provoked into this con~ troversy against my will. I simply did my duty in the matter to the city and State which honored me with their confidence and trusted me as their representative. I will xamit that Mr. Morrissey’s | statement in yesterday’s HERALD was 60 far” troe that was a “high priced Senator,¥ when he quotes Tweed's language, but 1 was Senator in a melo-dramatic way :— | “By St, Paul, valiant Hotspur, how goes the | fight? Is your vaward wing engaged on this side | of the Humber ¢” “Right merrily goes the fight, good my ilege,” answered the Senator, “and victory shall yet | perch on the banner of Ottendorter and Jones." Mr. Creamer, smiling all over his face, representative, hbrary of was seated In the sumptuous the Manhattan Club, by bookcases containing the Federalist, Ki- liott’s “Debates,” Benton's ‘Thirty Years in the Senate” and other light reading, | while tne grim visage of Andrew Jackson | some figure and undaunted features of the hero of | many a@ legislative battle. Here the Senator sat | him down before a large table and, looking dream- uy through the fumes of a regalia at the Freach | fats opposite, he was duly questioned as to the | progress of the political combat and more partic- warly in regard to the “slight unpleas- antness”’ and the Hon. John Morrissey. No one would imagine, to gaze on the piacid and genial coun- tenance of Senator Creamer, that forty-eight hours previous he met the most noted captain of his age, equalled the exploits of Finn McCool. The Senator did not betray by his Manner that either his centre had been plerced or his flank turned, and he seemed to enjoy his cigar like @ man and @ brother. HERALD RSPRESENTATIVE—Scnator Creamer, the 580,000 adult inhabitants of this city and vi- cinity are eager and anxious to know through the columns of the HERALD all about your difference with the Hon. Joho Morrissey, and also they wish toknow if he applied to you any specific and opprobrious epithet. Did ke use the term of “thie?” toward you, as he states that he did? IT WAS ONLY PICKWICKIAN, Senator CREAMER, (valmly)—Why the question refutes itself, and ts totally absurd. Morrissey dia not call me by any such name. He said that I had voted for all the thieving and corrupt measures at | Albany, and I simply declined to continue in any further conversation with him. HERALD REPRESENTATIVE.—Well, Senator, what do you think a5 a man oi Mr. Joan Morrissey and nis life and public services? Senator CREAMER (still perfectly calm and happy)—I really do not wish to have any personal | controversy with aman of Mr. Morrissey’s per- | sonal character. I have never a-sociated with him either politically or personally. I never have been in his gambiing den in Twenty-fourth street during my iile. My only association with him was when he forced himself on the Young | Democracy in the interests of the old Ring for the purpose of bringing our cause into con- tempt, just as he {8 now doing with Mr. Kelly, | who, whatever desire the latter may have to interests of our city government. finds himself threacvened by the power and pre- | dominance of the Morrissey element in tis Tam- many organization. i8 MORRISSEY A DISGRACE TO THE DEMOCRACY? | HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—What do you think | | of the tfuence of Mr, Morrissey tn polities ? Senator CRBAMER—Mr, Morriagey and his fiends | have always known that I considered their promi- | nent participation in politica as a disgrace to our | city and @ serious detriment to the interests of the Geimocratio party, and for that reason 1 have always incurred their enmity and [ have consid- ered it compiimentary to myseif, When Mr, Morrissey reiers to my connection with Tweed's | Legisiatare he must forget how Tweed disgraced | himself against his better judgment and te satisly | local political leaders in our city apd county by sending a man with such @ character to represent us in Congress, MORRISSEY'S REPENTANCE. | We all know that-et the time that Morrtssey was sent to Congress, owing to his strong protesta- Uons that Re would change his mode of Itle for the sake Ot his family, the power of Tammany was so great in the disirict which Tweed himself had rep- | fosehted in the State Senate that he could aave | elected a jackass or @ mule as easily as he did Morrissey, and, perhaps, with equal justice and | ropriety to National legisiature, Mr. well that but for tue Influence of Speaker James G. Biaine and other prominent republican leaders who took pity on jorrissey, he would have been tgnomintousiy ex- pelled from the floor of the House of Representu- tues, I have always believed Morrissey'’s connec- tion with the democratic party to be the strongest card that the republican party could ase against us politically. His insinuations that he has been assailed solely because he was a gambler, is uncalled jor, No one has assailed one of his profession, in which many gentlemen may be found, who, how- ever, do not associate with Morrissey or thrust themselves before the public gaze tor notoriety or political pell. HERALD REPRESBNTATIVE—What ts the record of Mr. Morrissey in national politics, Mr. Cream: * i A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. Senator CREAMER QO & #turdy tone)—I charge | Jono Morriasey wish Raving, in 1870, at Washing- ton, heen closeted with Noah Davis and otuer re- pantions Jeadera, confessing to them the iniquity | hat he had practiced at elections, and it was he (Morrisse¥) Who assisted in procuring the passage | con- | tinued on up stairs, and soon, with the HXRALD | surrounded | amed down froma plaster cast on the hand- | which had occurred between himself | whose feats of muscular power have | not a low bred gladiatortal Congressman. And, now for my record in the Tax office, as | intend ta meet allo; Mr. Morrissey’s charges, During the period of four years in which I was Commissioner of Taxes, Lappeal to any gentleman in this city, and there are thousands of them left, as to my character and manner Of doing business in that | omice. While | have always conceded to Mr. George. | H. Andrews, publicly and privately, the credit | of beimg the wheel horse of aud power in thae office in reforming the abuses that had prevailed there belore our connection with the Board. | Still the smail host of deputies and clerks in uae | Geparcment during my connection with it will, am sure, testily to the reputation that I had tor incorruptible motives in whatever duties | had to perform. e HERALD REPRESENTAT! Mr. Creamer, I see that Mr. Morrissey distinctly states that you are working in the interest of the republican party. Mit. MORRISSKY AS FRA DIAVOLO, nator CRRAMER—That is simply the old cry and pretext used by rogues who desire oftice im this city. My answer to that is that uo represent- | ative in the present Congress can snow a record of | more defant and positive Opposition te this present administration than that made by meio a speech delivered in May last on the floor of the House of Representatives. But in this municipal | contest, the selections of city oMcers which 1s not | affected by any national or State issues, if the re- publicans had been so disposed, I would have cheerfully joined hands = with them to prevent gamblers, pugilists and thieves from | filling the offices oO honor and emolu- ment and = trust in our city, = Mr. | Morrissey boasts that he has already captured the | two most remunerative offices in the city, I re- fer to the oMices of the Sheriff and the County | Clerk, and tt ts charged that he shares the pro- | ceeds of one of these offices with its incumbent, | ana for tue sake of one of the incumbents of tho | oMices reterred to L nop that ye Slater ment is not trae. now Mr, Mor- | rissey proposes to seize the important oticg, of Register, which office has char; of tl records the entire real estate and persqnas weall ‘of é city. For myseif | have asked no favors and have received none from political op- | ponents since my election to Congress or in any | way have I compromised myself, Can some of Mr. | # Priss Iriends say the game? Iregret to say | Hat | | WOT, IS HeraLp RerneseNtatrve—Mr, Mor what you are a bolter? Why did you ‘Tammany organizatiog, Senate! CREAMER ON Wikisc.F, Senator CREAMER (quite Moda Ssecbe a don’s see how these men can charge me with bel a boiter, a8 I bave never assoctaied with them, and | was even opposed by them at my last eiection in | 1872. I have not been in Tammany Hall since 1870, When the doors were closed against the | young democracy vy the Tammany sachems. | could. not, therefore, bolt from those whom I have never been and never intend to be associated with. As far af the election is concerned I belleve that there is a strong public sentiment, if properly organized, | in favor Of repudiating tue nominations made by the Morrissey and Kelly organization, and 1 have the utmost confidence in the election oi Mr. Ottendorfer and General Jones, whica, in my opinion, would open up a new era im | the potitics and government o1 this city. But for | the October elections and their effect upon the reform party in New York, & union of the masses of the peopie of all partes could have been made by selecting such men a Royal Pheips, William Batier Duncan, Recorder Hackett, or William H. Neilson as the standard bearers of the people in this contest. Bat the republicans prefer. party success in this State, and are willing to lee | the government of this city go to the dogs and into the hands of the pugilists, That the day will come when all good citizens of every party will regret \hat the interests of the great metrop- oliy are made subservient to party organization C em positive. No man better understands oy more thoroughly comprehends the impend- ing danger that threatens the good govern- ment of our city than Mr. Ottendorfer, Nog an ofice-seeker himsel, he preferred the selection. of some other candidate; but none could be found to head the battie of the people unless as. sured of repubiican support. A few words to myself. Ihave represented the people of this city in office for over ten years, without a word or charge ever haying been publicly a against my character or reputation, I have been through dark poilttcal days when corrup tion prevatied and honesty was the exception, and have come out untainted ana un- stained; and it has been jeft jor a man of Mr. Mor- rissey’s character to make charges against me, [ have also noticed how reluctant many of our best. citizens are tO have anything to do with politicar affairs {n our city, and many of my best friends have advised me against participating in this can- vass, jor the society of some men with whom you | are compeled to be brought into contact or oppo- sition, such a8 Mr. Morrissey, ts not agreeable to the taste of any gentieman, b no more iuterest in this canvass than the hampless citizen in this community. I declined a renomi+ nation for the State Senate in 1871, and only con- sented to accept 4 seat in Congress with a distinct avowal that it should be but for one term. Im this canvass my name has deen mentioned for: several of the offices, and by unanimous yore the nomination for the office of Register was tendered, me, which I declined in favor of one whom [ be- Meved to have bad a claim on that oMice for his’ noble and magnantinous action towara the widow and chilaren of the late O'Reilly. This is omy lasts interview this po- litteal contest. Let other citizens come torward now 4nd beard the hon in bis den. | must be compelied to admit chat I do not feel comiortavie in the company that | have met during the last two weeks, and from whom ¢unid people sirink, and [cannot blame them; bat if the scandalous efforts of prize fighters and gamblers can de ine | trated L will have been amply recomnensed ion any work I may have done.