The New York Herald Newspaper, August 25, 1874, Page 3

a) <a Re ae Io WAR OF THE RACES. Views of Ex-Governor Vance, of North Carolina, GRANT INCITES THE BLACKS, What the Southern Whites Will Do with the Negroes. » A Pepresentative of the HERALD yesterday called , op ex-Governor Lebulon B, Vance, of North Car- olina, at the Brevoort House, After the usual friendly salutations the conversation that ensued ‘was on the political situation of the South and the recent State election in North Carolina. The ex- Governor seemed highly elated over the complete political revolution in favor of the democracy in bis own State, and looked upon THE RECENT VICTORY as an indication of what the result of the Presi- dential contest would be in 1876. “The result of the recent election in our State,”’ said the ex-Governor, ‘‘was attributable to more than one cause, The corrupt.on of State and federal, office-holders and the civil rights ques- tion, however, were the causes of the defeat of the radicals. Why, heretofore we could nofget & @ozen negroes in the state to vote for our candi- Gates, At this election, hundreds of them voted ‘the conservative ticket. Our boys marched them by dozens to tne polis.” ‘The HERALD representative desired to know ‘What inducements had been held out to the col- ored people that they should desert their party at this late day. Ex-Governor Vance replied that the republicans in North Carolina were divided on the Civil Rights bu Many who professed to be in favor of it secretly opposed it, and even some of tne LEADING NEGRO POLITICIANS announced themselves as against the measure. This policy disgusted the darkies, and as they knew full well they'could not all get elected to office, and were dependent for a living upon the conservatives or democrats of the State—who are the.property holders—hundreds of them were wise enough to consult their interests and yote for their old masters, . HERALD REPORTER—What do you think of the coming Presidential contest, Governor? Ex-Governor VaNceE—Well, to tell the truth, I ‘Would not have given the subject as much atten- tion as Ihave, at this early day, Dut for the dis- | cussions on the third term which I have seen in the Newspapers, But among us down South the idea of Grant being the democratic nominee for the third term is considered simply ridiculous. HERALD REPORTER—Did you read Grant’s advice to Judge Mackey, of South Carolina? Ex-Governor VaNoz—Yes. But it was all said for effect, It 1s impossible to make the Southern people believe that Grant is not himself corrupt. Why, if he was vnly sincere in his professions he would recall the military from South Carolina, and if he had done that I guarantee the: white people would carry the State at the coming election and drive Moses and his corrupt, venal set uf followers | Out ol the State, HERALD ReporRTeR—But would not the Presi- dent, tn recailing the troops from south Carolina, precipitate a war of races? v4 &x-Governor Vance—We do not apprehend any- thing of the kind. There might be. A FIGHT AND A KNOCK DOWN OB. 80, Dut the white people would get their rights, and this they are determined to have im the end. ‘Wherever the whites are in the majority in the | South we hear of no trouble between the races, bat where they are in the minority it) will always be different, South Carolina ts now and has long been ruled by a periect despotism. My State is a paradise compared to it, and God knows we have enough thieves and scounarels in North Carolina to filFseveral penitentiaries. It is needless to. telt you that alarge number of this class are ‘Grant's Office-bolders. HBEALD REPORTER—Have the Southern people any particular candidate in view for the Presi- dency—I mean the democrats? Ex-Governor Vance—Well, they have given the matter some attention, of course. I had » talk with General Gorden, of Georgia, the other day, and he thinks Senator Thurman is the coming man. 1 think Hendricks ts, HERALD REPoRTER—Will the Southern people— your party J mean, of course—nominate a Southern mac for Vice President? Ex-Governor VaNcE—No, I am suse not. The Northern democracy will not vote for any South- ern map for a 1ederal office who ever participated in the rebellion. Of this 1 am confident. HERALD REPORTER—Do you think Governor Hen- dricks will be nommated? Ex Governor VaxcE—Of couse I cannot say. The choice will be between him and Thurman. The Southern democracy willbe satisfied with either, though, I believe, better pleased with Hendricks. He sults me exactly. HERALD RePORTKR—YOu were, I thought, always a strong State rignte man, Governor. Why, theo, do you think Grant should interfere with South Carolina, even in her present condition ? Ex-Governor VaNcE—Because she is rotten to the core and the corrupt set that now con- trol her were fastened upon us by Grant’s admin- istration. We do not dsk any interference on the part of the government in our affairs, but to give ‘us our rights, Grant has placea his troops in South Corolisa'to overawe the whites. We simply want him to. recall them, and the white people will elect am honest Legislature, which will relieve the State at once of a corrupt administration and its burden of taxation. THB WHITES HAVE 8T00D THIS THING TOO LONG ALREADY. Grant cannot be other than in full sympathy with the present radical government in that State, or he would have done sometwing ior the relief of the State long ago. ' | HERALD ReEPorTeR—You think the demo- crates would carry South Carolina then, if the ted- eral troops were removed? Aremot the negro voters largely in the majority? Ex-Governor VaNce—The negroes are in the majority there, we well know; but the negroes ‘will vote with the whites when they find out that it is their only salvation for them to do so. In anawer to further questions the ex-Governor said:—"With the exception o1 South Carolina and Mississippi, which were controlied by carpet-bag and negro administrations, the Northern States were BEGINNING TO RRCOVER THEMSELVES quite rapidly. In North Carolina espectally there is plenty. All we need is capital and labor. We have not enough of either. Laborers command wages, and hundreds of the negroes from ath Carolina have come into our State and have no difficulty in finding employment. Why, to give | you some idea of our prosperity, in one county—[ ‘would instance Charlotte, my home, a town of about 12,000' population—we have six banks there and in them over $1,800,000, deposited by the Jarmers residing in the surrounding country, upon which the banks are paying out six per cent inter- est. This is more money than the farmers around Oharlotte bave ever before.” Here the interview termingted. The ex-Gover- nor is now on his way back to his native State, where he is at present engaged in the practice of the law. He admitted to the Hrnaxp representa- tive, during the interview, that it was quite prob- able he woula be the democratic candidate tor Go¥ernor of North Carolina within another two years, The Conflict Breaks Out in Choctaw County, Alabama—A Negro Conspiracy Revealed and Frustrated—Bloodshed Saved. MONTGOMERY, August 24, 1874. Troubles are reported between the waites and ‘the blacks in Choctaw county. The whites were informed that the blacks intended to attack them unawares and gathered in force to repel them. 1n due time a crowd of blacks appeared, but made no attack. A number of them, however, went to a sorpectes negro and took him an Whipped him. ¢ whipped negro, on being re- le fled to the whites for protection, that he had been whipped for revealing spiracy of the blacks. An officer, accompanied by @ posse, proceeded to arrest the rioters, but the latter fled on his approach. Several shots were fired at them as they retreated, but without in- ficting any dam: uiet has been restored, and no further trouble is apprehended. A Chapter of Stabbing Affrays—Tne Dagger in Active Employment. Avausta, August 24, 1874. On Sunday night lasta white man named Ed- ward Owens undertook to remove a colored man named William Simmons from the house of a ne- gro woman. Simmons sted and Owens stabbed him, from the effects of which he died. The evi- | maturally great cowards, dence before the Coroner's jury disclosed the fact that Simmons was drank aod disorderly, and that Owens interfered at the request of the woman. = yary rendered a verdict of justifiable hom feide. A white lad named Burns stabbed an: named Autry in Hamburg lest night. The ‘wound proved oy man’ te oe te Re Today Preston Sims and Tom Carter (vot, cot, pr it ore: ‘a ami auring which pang Ponce g pop re avselitied The Ridge Spring (8. C.) Uprising—The Cause of the Emeute—Fhe Alarm Caused by the Arrival of Armed Geor- glans. The special correspondent of the Augusta Chron- tole and Sentinel gives the following account of the Else and fail of the disturbance at Ridge Spring, 8 O.:— When we arrived at Ridge Spring we found the Dlacs alive with armed men. Ni were ag the depot to see us alight, and as we stepped to the ground we were greeted with earth-snaking yyeus of “Hurran foc Georgia! and ‘Hurrah for the democrats!’ to which we responded with a hearty will. Our leader thea announced to the South Carolinians assembied the object of our Visit, which was to » DOC lead them in their antictoated trouble with the negroes. “We,” said he, “will not act without your co-operation.” THE BEGINNING OF THR TROUBLE, We learned in the course o! the evening that on the previous: night the negroes had assembled) in large numbers at Ridge Spring and had used very insuiting language toward the whites, and had made many threats relative to their lives and prop- erty. As the whites were very toferior in pofnt of number, no effort was made to disperse the blacks. ‘They caroused and revelled in the essence of the Civil Rignts bill until the night peared ita end, They promised to return on the ensuing igs (Tuesday), with increased numbers, to “whip out” the whites. THE WHITES PREPARED. Such carryings on and such insulting threats ex: ted the South Carolinians, and they de- termined forthwith to meet the issue fairly and squarely. They sent to Augusta for arms and am- munttion, and congregated in considerable nume ‘hen our party arrived the bers at Ridge. town way atte warlike in its appearance. Here and yonder stood groups of men, all armed—some with shot guns, some With muskets, some with rifles, amd some with pistols aud knives, The spirit of determination was expressed in their faces, and that they were ready and anxious to wipe out the many insults and indignities that have been forced upon them in the -last few years was very evident. The planters say that they do not believe it is the desire or the intention of a great many of the negroes to molest or in any Way displease the white people of South Caro- lina, The difficulty is with the radical white and black politicians, They go about the country and make violent speeches against the white ople, inciting the negroes to open riot and loodshed. INFAMOUB RENEGADE, Several parties affirm thata white man, whose name, as near as We can recollect, was McDevitt, recently made @ speech at Ridge Spring, ion which he said the negroes could and ought to whip the whites. ‘‘The fight will come,” said he, “and when it does come, let me advise you to divide your- selves into two separate parties—one to fight the white men, the otier to kill the white women and children.’ Numbers have sworn to kill McDevitt on sight, The inhuman and inJjamous wretch was on board the train that carried the Augusta party to Ridge Spring, though it was pot known to the members of the party. Henry Smith, colored, 18 another who has used his influence against the whites. The tone of his speeches would rank them with that of McDevitt in the intensity of their il] feeling towards the while people. This delectable gentleman Nivea at Ridge Spring, though he has not been at home during the last day or two. He has gone to Columbia professedly Ww raise troops to fight the whites. The “Tigers” searched every train that passed here last night and to-day for him, but in vain. ARREST OF BOWIE, Harrison Bowie, sald to be irom Augusta, has also made speeches against the white people, This afternoon be was taken on & Warrant sworn out by a party, charging him with attempts to disturb the public peace, irom the quarter past five o’clock train. Ag we eotered the train he was seated in the ladies’ car reading a pamphlet. He was a little Wayward at first, but as five or six persuasive pisrols and gups, along whose barreis glancea lashing, angry eyes, covered him, he thought bet- ter of the matter and yielded. When he was pulled off the car it was with dificulty that he was kept from being shot. His father, who does not seem to be at all antiquated, rushed up, exclaiming :— “That is my son; what do you mean to do with him?’ The answer he received was a gleaming istol in the hand of a “Georgia Tiger,” held richt in his face. He was only saved by being dragged out of the crowd by some white men, who did not wish to see him shot. Harrison Bowie was very much irightened and certatmly did not Relish “tne situation.” A bond of . $1,000, to keep the peace, was required of him, nd failing vo give this, he was sent to the Lex- ington jali. He would e n kept at the Ridge, bu’ ra were entertained that he might be shot before morning, and hence to save him he was sent to Lexivugton. THE NEGROES APBAID AND PROMISE TO GIVE UP i THEIR ARMS, South Carolina negroes are deathly @fraid of. Georgia white men, and knowing that there was 9 party at the Ridge from Augusta who answered fo the appeliation of “Georgia Tigers,” and ,also Knowing that the South Carolinians were (all thorouguly armed and ready jor the fray, they— those near Ridge Spring—have consen' to bring im ail their arms and have them stacked at the Ridge by twelve M. to-morrow. “Our ‘ty, now covered with glory, will leave for Augusta to-mor- Tow morning at six o’clock, THE NUMBER OF MEN AT THE RIDGE. Companies of men would come in from all quarters, and it is estimated that at no time while we were at the Ridge Spring were there less than 200 wel armed and determined men, At. Batesville, ten miles beyond, there. were as many, and at other places more. All thig goes to show that the white people of South Carolina are in earnest when they say that they have stood as much as they intend to stand from the negroes and white radicals, backed up by an inlamous government, They will ; FREE SOUTH CAROLINA OR GO DOWN WITH HEB! As for ourselves, we do not think there isiany, serious cause for alarm on the part of tbe whites in the neighborhood of Ridge Spring, Negroes are aod in this part of the. country they have been terribly frightened bythe developments of the last two days. Some ve come in to intercede for mercy already, and all we bave seen are disposed, professediy, to behave themselves in the future. “NEGRO FORBEARANCE.” = The Fidelity of the Slaves During the War Caused by Ignorance and Not Loyalty—The Southern Whites Not Ubligated to Them-—Self-Reliance the Motto of the Fature. MONTGOMERY, Ala., August 16, 1874. To THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD:— In am edition of your paper of the 15th inst. there is an article headed ‘Southern Social F er* mentation,” in which you offer some well meant | him, ‘If you have apy reason for not giving me. and fn the main excellent advice to Southern | white men. . Being a constant reader ol your valuable paper, ana knowing its immense and well-deserved circu- | lation and the great influence it exerts over all the Unitea States, 1 am anxtous, as every thought- ful map must be, to see you alwys ad- vance opiaions and facts that are irreproachable and irrefutable. This is almost invariavly the case as regards the HERALD, but it is impossible that earthly intellect should not sometimes err, and you will pardon me, I hope, when I presume to say that in your conception of the negro character, as expressed in the article alluded to, you have fallen into an error very com- mon and pardonable with gentlemen, who have not had the fortune to-reside where the nabits of the negro could be constantly observed. You say in the second paragraph of your article:—‘Candid Southerners must admit, how- ever, that they have every reason to think weli of the fidelity and forbearance of the negro;” and you cite a8 an evidence of that forbearance the fact “that they took no advantage of the absence of their masters, and of their opportunity for com~ bination, to assist an enemy that was fighting in their interests to achieve their freedom.’ This fact has been barped on in a thousand dif- ferent strains by radical orators, and J think 1 ao the H&RALD but simple justice in believing that, as it nas adopted this cry of the ingratitude of the Southern people towards the negro, it will give a defence of the South against such a charge a piace in Hs columns, and leave the world to tas whether or no they have been ungrateiul In the first place It is undeniable that the negro knew, though somewhat vaguely, that the people of the North were Agnting, for bis freedom; yet, natu- rally enough, he had not the capacity to com! hend in any great degree the true cpenagy be the word. Hundreds of years of servitude had so habituated him to bis position that it was impos- sible for the average negro mind to conceive of any ovher state than the one in which he and his forefathers had for so many years existed. This is puree by the fact of Jotin lure to incite the negroes to revolt in is apparently singular wndifference to reedom be accounted for partly by the tact that the negroes, a8 @ rule, were unable to read, and could not, Poyah a become aware of the ex- celience of ire id. partly by the fact that the majority had no wrol (of which they were aware) to complain of. ey have been taught ie rane alleged wrongs were since the war, jowever. Piaars mat ps anche re rs no am an nt, whic! gives birth to ambition. They had no knowl thata greater future could be in store for their race, and they generally received enough food and clothing to sattsty their simpie wants. They lived The to-morrow {ek tot on the few negroes who committed inst the tes slowed them the great ding their masters. wes them no gratitude for what is ."" They believed them- tu they had been willing, to harm the white race. But the majority of negroes had no cause to act in any way but obediently toward their masters and mistres Common grail jude would have ied them be obe- tent, ‘The people the South consider that they are under no * obligation of justicé or grati- tude” to the negro for his (so-calied) forbearance during the late war. The ‘“gatonishing fidelity ” of ich_ you speak, was not! ng mor 9 eand quiet con es. 9 not therefore make any ‘‘allowi jo! e ini lent prete! With which the negroes have been inapi & political party in the North.” We can conscientiously say that we have done all 1n our power to induce the negro to act in con- cert with us; couctiation and forbearance have until now been the policy of the white Soutbern- ers, but it has been utterly in vain. The Soutn sacrificed the principles and prejudices of ages in accepting Mr. Greei¢y as their nominee for the Presidency. This was done to induce the negro to desert his fdise imend the carpet-| ir. But that scheme of ety, will go down to future ages as © most utter and igno- mintous failure that would-be statesman ever achieved, It was founded on a mistake of the negro’s character—the same mistake that you bave made in attributing to nim (the negro) “tidelity and torbearance.” His an to Mr. Gresien was a good example of his fidelity to any one, Therefore, in self-defence, the Southern white men have discarded the spirit of concession and conciliation, which has never been practisea by the negroes, and have concluded to place their reliance hereafter on themselves glone, and we ask the press of the North, and particularly the HERALD, to grant us, for the sake of civilization and justice, @ fair and impartial hearing in this matter of social rights before they attribute the outrages against the peace of the country that have occurred, and those that may occur, to the intolerance of the Southern gentlemen. Respect- fully. GORDON MACDONA! THE BROOKLYN TRAGEDY, gh Very Remarkable Circumstance. Con- mect:d with the Counterfeiting and Murder Mystery—Flight and Arrest of an Important Witness in the Case. The police authorities have from time to time been called upon to fathom mysterious murders and have met, with varied success, but they have never worked upon a case that involved more pe- culiar lines than the latest tragedy, the taking off of the Sicilian Salvadore Torrina, who was found ayiug on the sidewalk on the night of August 9, near the intersection of Bedford avenue and Hey- ward street. The first impression made upon the minds ofthe police was, it will be remembered, that the man, whose throat was cut while fifteen other wounds attested the vindictive thrusts of the as- sassins, had committed suicide. Inspector Waddy, however, would not entertain so absurd a theory and went to work on the idea that the man had | been murdered either by. one of his own country- men or some of ‘THE FLUSHING AVENUE GANG, @ mob of young men who iniest that vicinity and are well known to the police of the Sixth suD and Ninth precincts, " There remains still another circumstance, and the latest one develope d in this remarkable doubie crime. Yesterday Alfred O’Fryen, lute proprietor of an oyster saloon on Flushing avenue, was arraigned before Justice Riley and sent to jail on asbort commitment. O’Bryen was arrested by Detective Biggert, of the Sixth suo-precinet, in New York on morning, alter lon; ron. It was at | the sgloon of this, man that James Donahue and Andrew Hollywaod, both members o: the Flushing avenue gang, were see in company with an Ital- | tan like the deceased on the evening of the mur- | der. O’Biyen put detectives on the track of Dona- bue and Hollywood, and they were arrested and have since been held at the jail awaiting develop- meats. Last week Sergeant Buckholtz, who has | been at work on the case, discovered that the | oyster saloon was no longer kept by O’Bryen: he | had transferred his property to some one else and disappeared for parts unknown. He was found aga stated and taken to Brooklyn, where he admitted that he had been THREATENED BY THE ‘PALS!’ of Donahue and Hollywood with bodily harm, be- cause of his 4a the matter of informing the police upon Gnd he.was alraja to live m the Netghborhood any longer. There is a rumor cur- rept which accredits Donahue ard Hollywood with being in the service of forrina and of being in the company ol these men for business purposes con- nected with circulation of the bogus stamps. which Were to have been ready for the, market in a couple of days. Another report connects the oys- terman With the Italians, but there is nothing pos- itive in the matter to criminate these men. As witnesses, however, they are important. THE INQUEST. Coroner Whitehili will commence the inquest at eleven o'clock this forenoon in the County Court House. There will nos be many witnesses to ex- a@uine, however, for the reason that he is desirous of biding his time unti Coramonti’s arrest shail Rave been compaseed. -THE GOODRICH MURDERESS. ‘What Has Become of Kate Stoddard’s “ Articles and Effectst—The District At- torney’s Office and the Property Clerk. Heard From on the Subject, Kate Stoddard, the alleged murderess of Charles Goodrich, who was sent to the State Lunatic Asy- lum, being adjudged insane upon full and impar- tia) examination berore Judge Moore, of the Kings County Court, lasbmonth, addressed a letter to the HERALD, which was published yesterday, pro- pounding inquiries touching the disposition of ar- ticles taken charge of by that official and the po- lice when she was arrested fifteen months ago. In... order to solve the questions propounded for the interest of the public and the fair occupant of the Auburn Asylum a reporter of the HERALD has made the necessary inquiries in oficial quarters, Calling at the office of District Attorney John Winslow he met the Cotef Clerk, Mr. Levi Faron, who informed him that Mr. Winslow would not be there that day. “Well, Mr. Faron, doubtless you can answer for the District Attorney a fair question, publicly pus, im Kate Stoddard’s published card, She writes to these articles, please give me that reason.’ ’’ “I can answer that question. We have here two pistols which were taken from her, two pocket- books, one containing Charles Goodrich’s cards, memoranda and $1 in iractional currency, and the other $35 in money and newspaper clippings. The pocketbooks and money are claimed by tho administrator for the property of deceased, the father of Oharles Goodrich. We hada watch and chain and a music box, which we surrendered to the administrator as they were perishabie eons The watch was very valuable and together with the music box was growing impaired m value from not being used. They were the property of the man. We had one seal and one gold seal ring which were also taken from her effects. The rest of the property, that which ts not sur- rendered to the administrator, ie held as being part of the case, for future reterence and conaider- ation. You know she may be sent back to Brook- lyn for trial should she recover her reason. We have twice given her property which she required for her comiort or personai convenience.” Mr. Charies ©. Krauschaar, Police Property Clerk, when questioned by the writer, said:— “after Kate Studdard’s arrest Captain McConnell, who was in charge of the Second precinct at the time, handed to my cus! , belonging te her, the following articles:—An ol cketbook, worth about two cents, in which is $5 50; one accordeon, in good order; two very fine opera glasses, worth $30 or $40; one old cotton umbrella; a satchel, containing @ piece of biue ribbon, a car ticket, ferry tickets and ouds and ends, of which she ‘ks in the HERALD letter; one box of bottle: containing oil, potson and dear knows what, for never sampled tiem; one Bible, four books on physiology, with original notes (the books are pe- cuilar, treating haman misfortunes of a physical nature). I never nad $45 of her money in my pos- on, There was &@ music box, worth w gi Good: to bi one Christm: ae ee rendered to administration two weeks ago, on order of the District Attorney. As to the two looking glasses which she says i have, I never saw them, and I have toid he! personally.”’ BERY IN BROOKLYN. The Widow of Henry J. Raymond the Intended Victim. About ten o'clock yesterday morning Mrs, Benry J. Raymond, wife of the lately deceased journal- iat, was standing at the intersection of Greene ‘venue and Adelphi street, waiting for a car, when @ young man; about twenty-two years of age, stepped up suddenly before the lady and grabbed from her hand 8 pocketbook containing 250, the platiorm of a Gates avenus & yaa H the tii was standing Tm officer witnessed ene’ act, and, alighting, ran4| wored to the fane tat has no torn,” and so kagene Lan e foun: his turn to answer for highway robvery had ar- ved at last, as he was committed by Juatice to awalt the agtion of tae Gran f NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 1874.—TRIPLE SHEET. THE LULL. The Brooklyn Scandal Storm Abating. THEODORE’S TALK ABOUT SUSAN B. The Lawyers and Their Proceedings- ‘There js @ Manifest lull in the tarmoli caused by the Brooklyn scandal. The developments yesterday amounted to very Little, The only event that oc- curred of an exciting character was an addition to the collection of salacious stories, and which was: published in @ Brooklyn newspaper last evening. It will be seen, however, thas it is described by the gentleman interviewed as grossly untrue, and, therefore, its further publicity hag been effectually prevented, Bessie’s story is the latest: topte of cohversation, and its effect is spoken of as Gisastrous to the Beecher side by the friends of ‘Tilcom, and just the contrary by the enemies of the latter. In consequence of Mr. Beecher’s. visit to the White Mountains there will be a slght delay im the, progress of sho legal proceedings, and it will be seen that Mr. Shearman has taken steps to make this delay of as Uttle effect upon the progress of the case as it can possibly be under the circumstances. Mr. Tilton ie stil) hermitizing m the weil known house in Livingston street. He refuses to be interviewed except in homosopathic doses, and he appears to be more concerned about Susan B. Anthony's reputa- tion than his own. It 1s now understood that mr. Moulton will not comply with the request of the committee to appear beiore them for crose- examination, In that event. the report of the Investigating Committee will be presented to Plymouth church on Friday evening next. The members of the committee are scattered in vari- ous country and seaside resorts, and will not meet again until Weanesday next, when Onal action will be taken in reference to their previous proceed- ings. AN INTERVIEW WITH MR. OVING- TON. Mr. Ovington mentioned to a HERALD represent+ ative that Mr. Moulton’s statement he had learned from a member of the committee would have probaoly no effect on the verdict, Mr. Moulton nad been asked by the committee to sub- mit to @ cross-examination, but his answer had not been received. Should he consent tobe ex- amined in tnis manner it.Js very possible that the Teport of the committee may be delayed longer than next Friday evening, &3 some portions will have, no doubt, to be gone over again and sub- mitted to all the members of the committee. In case Mr. Moulton should not agree to be cross- examined on his statement, then the statement itself cannot be noticed by the committee, as it ‘was not submitted to them, but took the form of. a open communication through the press, the mode of address, “To the Gentlemen of the Com- mittee,” being merely a blind to mislead the pub- lic. The committee can, therefore, only notice what Mr. Moulton will gay to it on cross-examina- tion, which would embody in direct language and explain many points of the statement which at Present remain obscure. Should tnis course not be adopted by Mr. Moulton the report will be made positively on Friday evening, And ag that gen- tleman seems to have made up his mind to follow his. own course and give nothing to the committee it 18 more than probable that the controversy will be finally settled on Friday evening. “It will be,” said Mr. Uvington, ‘a church meet- ing, though it 1s intended to admit strangers, Aiter the reading of the report to the meeting there may be some remarks made and then the, entire report will be voted on by the members present. Ii the matter is done by acclamation then the voting on the acveptance and adoption of the report will be done by calling the roll of mem- bers, im which case the votes will be recordea as announced. There is not much,prodability of this the feeling of the church, from what has oecurred during the past week in the way of maluseran of senti- ment, makes it certat Mr, Beecher receive. an overwhelming. indorsement. Should the vote by any possibility be otherwise than favorable to tife pastor, however, it would be taken to mean that his discontinuance of any con- nection with the church would be able. But this view of the matter 18 regarded as so absurd by Plymouth church ple that It seems to be hardly worth 8 though’ MISS BESSIR. TURNER, Regarding Mis: jer, the witness who seems to have some’ ned the tables on Mr. Freee Ind, dele Mr. cope Ree Saye in is Ca yy 8 what when she came from the We: be cal of the committee she stopped at his house told bim at the time all she subsequently’ repeated to the com- mittee, She assur bi that all about Tilton coming to her room was _ true was to the letter, aud not the slightest deviation ever made from it. Bessie and Mrs. fiiton were on terms, and the latter knew what she was going to testily. Bessie wasa@ girl of great deal of spirit, honest and open in her utterances. He did not think any one could-induco her to tell what was not true. In appearance she was.not precisely pretty, but her manners were tascinat- ing. She was quick and decided in her manner. Her feeling toward Mr. Tilton was one of aver- ston, and she seemed to have some strong cause | for it, Bessie only remained in Brooklyn a couple of days, and departed again to her resi- dence out West. To all those favorable in any Manner to Mr. Beecher her statement seemed de- cisive. and had given Mr. Tilton a blow from which he could not recover. POOR MR. ‘TILTON, Mrs. Tilton was still in the country with Mrs. Ovington, but was thinking of returning now that all the turmoil was quieting down. She would come back to his (Mr. Rada it house and re- main there for the present. chit was decided phd as to her future movements, and she did not now herself what the future would bring fortu, excepting one thing, that she would not return to her former life witb Theodore Tilton. ig the threatened legal ‘ard Beec! empty talk, and that no serious intention existed in Mr. Tilton’s mind to do anything of all he was threatening. She believed, as did Mr, Beecher’s friends, that Mr. Tilton was now quite aware he had nothing to base @ case for damages upon and therefore would not lose time and money In puah- ‘ng tt. Should her testimony be demanded in any way it would simply be a repetition of all she has already said, and would give no new facts, ‘The writer called at the office of the counsel for rT wepapers, but found that the lawyer had not yet returned to his office from 4 trip to the suburbs, though he had been expected in the morning. A TALK WITH MR. TILTON. —_+—__- A reporter of the BERaLp called at the residence of Mr. Tiltoa in Livingston street last evening, for the purpose of obtaining his views upon the re- ported official transcript of the testimony of Bessie, the adopted daughter, before the Ply- mouth church investigating committee. Mr. Tilton declined to give any opinion upon the statement whatever, When asked whether there was any trath whatever in the allusions to Miss Susan B. Anthony made by Bessie before the committee, Mr, ‘Tilton replied, with en air of solem- nity, “I tremble and shiver to answer until I ‘hear what my venerable friend, Susan B, Anthony, has to say concerning the embarrassing situation in which we were th unhappily canglt that evening. by Biel is not concerning Bessie but Susan. Little Bessie’s accusation alts iar more lightly on my head than dear good Susan sat upon my knee. I don't say that Susan would do tue same thing now, but she was younger then. You need not press me further. fonal not, for Susan’s sake, deny it. There have been too few confessions of the plain truth in this controversy.” Rage cuporsart his Men in farnish- i tory ani ment of @ most important Episode § effect which upon the delicate nerves of the venerable spinster, whose name is 80 widely knowa and respected in the great fleld onjeminine reform, ns THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS. Mr. T. G. Shearman left Brooklyn yesterday afternoon, it is believea, for the Twin Mountain House, White Mountains, tor the purpose of con- sulting with Mr. Beeoher jn reference to the pnawer to thé suit instituted by Mr. Tilton. Mr then, well and good; if there ie any discussion | Beecher will have to swear to this answer before & commissioner of deeds tor the State of New Yor Mr. that Lancaster was the int to the White Mountains where such nearest @ com! loner could be found. The » etter being sworn to, would have to be sent’ to alben?, in order that the ture of the commissioner might be verified. The probability, therefore, was that the answer would not be ready for service bas 3 ; lens of Se week, arsall, counsel for the plaintiff, aid :— “The vechnical form for Mr. Beecher would be a general denial of each and Vy 4 allegation con- tained in the complaint. That is ihe usual course. He might, if he should so choose, go over his whole statement in soswer, butno lawyer would do that. In all probability nis answer will be simply a gene- Tal denial, You. see our complaint is narrowed down to the charge’ that on a certain date and divers he Mg <e and alter, be did commit these. acts. thia the only legal answer would be @ denial of the whole.” MOULTON'S ‘SAY .SAID.” Mr. Moulton left bis reaidence, No. 49 Remsen street, at an early bour yesterday and went over to New York ov business connected with law suits in which the frm of Woodruf & Robinson ts con- cerned, whom General Benjamin F, Butler repre- sents, The suits are for import dues, and are to come on for trial in the United States Court in New York. Mr. Moulton said he nad “sald hiseey” for the present in connection with,the scandal. A DISCLAIMER BY H. M. SMITH. Mr. Henry M. Smith, the former managing editor of the Chicago Tribune, telegraphed last evening that the report of an interview with bim published in the Brooklyn Argue yesterday, was s gross mis- representation and misuse of private conversation on nis in the Beecher-Tilton abe. BEECHER AT THE WHITE MOUN- TAINS. Discussion of the Scandal by Tourists— The Frost and the Sermon of the Ply- mouth Pastor—He Will Not Speak of His Position or His Intention: Twin Mountain House, N. H., August 24, 1874, } Up bere we haveone topicin common with you im the cities and many physical delights which you cannot share, Our topic is “The Scandal” and our delights are in the weather, which sometime at night treats us with those effects which we shall denounce when they come to us in the cities, in regular order next winter. We have Mr. Beecher among us, a8 you know, and go are full of zest in discussing his case, and, we have frost now and regard it as a luxury you cannot buy. Both. of, our possessions preached vo us yesterday morning, the irost on the delights of our situation in comparison with the hot miseries of city people, and Mr, Beecher om the necessity of progress in religion, with an eye toward @ general agreement Im spiritual matters in the future. The frost, is must be said, was. the, more successful of the preachers. Mr. Beecher disappointed bis hearers only when he eaded his sermon, for during its progress several phrases kept them in hope. He almost appeared to dally with their feelings and hopes in several instances. Whea he read tne scriptural lesson from, Paul’s epistie to the Gsla- tlans many knowing nods pobbed many a sapient head, and when he denounced as idolatry an over- coming regard for ministers, who are only men, it was regarded as the outgrowth of his own expe- rience. MR, BEECHER NON-COMMITTAL, But it ts certain that Mr, Beecher doea not in- tend to take the mauijtitude into his confidence, for. he refuses, pleasantly enough, indeed, to, give me, who am the representative of, the multitude, even an inkling of his intentions, ,,1 bave had several conversations with Mr. Beecher, but all of them have left me with about.as. much information as I previously, had, To Mr. Redpath, of the Boston Lyceum, he seems to have been more communi- cative for having given that gentleman to under- stand tnat his recent statement to the committee he regards as final and that, he will not reply to Mr. Moulton’s statement, This decision, of course, stands revocable at the will of the com- mittee. If they do not callon Mr. Beecher for a further statement no. more, will, be said by, Mr. Beecher outside of court. His reason for notre- plying tothe Moulton story immediately is that by doing go be would violate good falth with the committee. Finally, whatever may occur in your vicinity.to affect the aspect of the "Beecher scandal,” no sensation in.connection, with it may be expected to have birth during Mr, Beecher’s stay in the White Mountains. The Plymouth Pastor to Enter the Lec- ture Field Again. * BOsTon, August 24, 1874, Mr. James Redpath, the manager of the Boston Iectare Lyceum Bureau, tas concluded an en- gagement with Bir. Beecher to delivera series of lectures, They will be delivered in Octobder and November and are so arran; that he will be in Brooklyn every Friday evening and over Sunday after the second week of October. An Advocate for Beecher in the Pulpit, Nawsure, August 24, 1874. The Rev. F. W: Holland, pastor of the Unitarian Charch of Our Father, of this city, discoursed yesterday on the text “For with what judg- ment ye judge ye shall be judged,” sc. At the close’ of ‘his ‘sermon he made a brief allusion to tbe Beecher scandal, cau- tioning his hearers against too hasiily judging a great man who had reached his threescore ye! with heretofore unblemished character, ard who, in the speaker's belies, it seemed tmpoasible should have been guilty of the crime charged against him. MISS ANTHONY AND THE SCANDAL. rd She Denies the Story of the Servant Girl—Bessie a Half-Idiot and Unwor- thy of Belief. RocueEster, N. Y., August 24, 1874. The Union publishes this afternoon the result of an interview between one of its reporters and Miss Susan B. Anthony relative to the statement of Mrs. Tilton’s servant, Bessie, implicating Miss Anthony in an improper (te-0-téte with Theodore Tilton. miss Anthony denies the whole story, but regards it as too absurd to be worthy of notice. She says she never heard that the girl (Bessie) was anything more than a servant in son's family; that she was half an idiot, abd that Mrs. Tilton had repeatedly said she could not tostil into the girl the first elements of truth. Miss Anthony’s character is too well established b; long years of residence in this community to ad- mit of a shadow of a doubt in the mind of any per- son here as to her virtue and veracity. GLENDENNING’S - TACTICS. Preparing « Defence—He Smiles at the Indignatien Meeting and Declines te Leave the City. The Rev. John 8. Glendenning is now at his home in Jersey City, and intends to stay there. As the letter given below will show, the statement that he was stopping at Mr. Owen's house was er- roneous, The gentleman who was on the trail of Glendenning, and who furnished the information, happened to be mistaken in the man, Mr. Glen- denning siept at his own residence on Sanday night, He admitted those who called to see him yesterday without reserve. When allusion was made to the indignation meeting he smiled, and treated the affair as too trifilng Jor serious notice. He says be will soon have his case in the courts, where he will have an opportunity of vindicating himself, When, asked if he would comply with the resolution calling on him to leave the city he laughed at it as a good jox®. His brother clergymen of the Presbytery stand firmly by him, They feel that it is necessary to save him to wipe out the scandal from the Church, Kev. Mr. Moore, clerk to the Presbytery, was asked yesterday if he knew what Mr. Glen- denning’s defence would be and he replied in the affirmative, but contented himself with the monosyllable. | The question was then asked whether he (Mr. Moore) regarded the defénce as a good ‘one and he answered that it was @ most sat- afactory one. ‘The outline of the defence has been shadowed by intimation. Mrs. Miller is charged with 1omen ing the whole trouble. Miss Pomeroy’s svate- ments ana affidavit were made, tt 1s averred, only under strong compulsion. The defendant's re- lations to deceased were only taose of and 9 friend toa much abused orphan ters from Miss Pomeroy to the defendant are to be The pistol scene is denied. jurnished. fendant avers that he prayed constantly the deceased, and sympathized with her in her troubie, and Lay to do alla brother could do ww ex- ner from ber dificuity, It waa in the far filment of this holy mission that be passed honra | i { i nothing had occurred to.disturb (he harmony | Cents per 100 ra with her, even to midnight. And Jastty, somes thing 1% promised, which, if substantiated, will cause the to rest heavily on the dead, and it ts this of the defence thaw will enkiodie anew the opposition and odium inst the defendant, especially if be should fait in furnishing the most satisiactory evidence of the allegations. The memory of poor era remes Pomeroy is now treas« ured in many respectabie tm spite of bem “one mistexe” as the Rev. Mr. Tunison termed c When Glendenning undertakes 10 convince the: peopie of the delusion they Jabor under, as he re< garde it, ke sets his whole fature on a cast. and th ow excited and indignant community will se it that he stand the Dazard of the die, The abi Megat advisers commit blunders, but the penalt falls only on the citent. Whatever be lenden ning’s defence it must be forthcoming very far | or another indignation meeting may compel th production of it, Not Glendenning’s Friend. To THe Eprrog ov THs ABRALD:— In your issue of this date (referring to the Gien4 denning indignation meeting held in McPherson's Hall, Saturday night) you say, “mention wast made in the HERALD yesterday that an attempt! Was made by one Owen to disturb the ed 4c. * * * But for the firm resolve and jadgment that characterized that meeting del would have been transierred to the street (rom second story window, Hadthe whole truth bee! known * * © At that time Glendenning was Owen's house, in Cherry lane, West \—and probabiy still there.” I wih you to correct. Glendenning was not at my house at that time, never was beiore or since, nor dol live in Cherry lane, aad, furthermore, & never to my knowledge saw said Giendeaning 4 nor, before this scandal, do I recollect ever navies heard hts name; nor do I believe he has ever (bes fore to-089) heard of my name, “living unnoted,’ On Satorday evening a few of us le! homes and went to the in. 10n Meeting af mere curiosity seekers, with our prejudi now, t Glendenning. But no sooner ha the ball opened than tt was plain to beseen that the entire hall, with afew exceptions, was ou brand of fire, wafting to throw ita sparks in ever: direction. ‘Tne resolutions, which were the rst thing in order, speak ior themselves. In ra I could see the accused threatened gn@ admonished to leave the country, run away, under threats, took a different view 0 the, situation, thinking we had ample laws for th lawlesa, and ‘knowing ie was under bonds Ae thy oe, indictments of $6,000, and ' belie’ m guilty, thought we had. better detain. and tr: him and give a trial before hanging him, en Isaid so much, Nor did | hear of any demonstra~ tion of uneasiness in all or anything 1 had to say: about the man till | referred to sie haste and hea’ of the meeting. After I eae the speaker’ stand I assured the assemblage that I “knew now the man;” that I'had no'sympathy for him; that, as acitizen of Jersey City, 1 arose to defend th laws of my State. Ten, and not till then, was interrapeet, J confess: was a little annoyed this morning find my effort so much garbled. By inserting shii correstion you will only do justice to an old sul scriber. “Nothing is sater than justice; nothing, is settled that 1s not right.” A. J. OWEN, Corner Dey, and, ch streets, Jersey City. AvGusr 2%, 1874. TRAGEDY AT GRAVESEND. pode EE a siindata A Colored Midnight Intruder Shot b: Another Negro—A Woman in th Ca One of the suburban towns of Brooklyn, Gravea< end, was the acene of a fatal occurrence at, am early hour yesterday morning. About two o’cloc the slumbers of a colored man named Fran Thompson, residing in a small frame house in thet place named, were disturbed by a noise proceed< ing from an adjoining room, He called his wife's attention to the circumstance, and, arming self with a loaded shot gun, which he kept nis bed, opened the door leading to the atairs, He @etected the outlines of a human form, and. taking aim at e figure, ad with out uttering & aingle warn: ing. ‘be man at whom the charg ‘was aimed fell groaning to the floor. The muzzi of the gun was held so‘cloge to the unfortunate in. truder that his clothes were set on fire and. the! leaden slugs riddied the body in a fearful Y Thompson procured @ light “and, finding t! an was_dead, retired quietly to his bed es shoug! the night’s repose. Early in the morning be visited Justice Stilwell and gave himself over to) the custody of the Justice, recounting the t as above set forth. The remains were identi fied as Wiliam Williams, a negro of repute, who has served two terms 1 the Penitentiary tor burglary, and who had bee! living with a Woman. named Besty Willets ag. bi wife, She was stopping in Thompson’s house, ani it ts said that the object of deceased in forcing hi: Way tn was to have aninterview with that wo! Thompson has frequently forbidden Wiihams call thare, and the deceased is represented as hav. ing saa that ne would shoot ail in the house. Tn prisoner, who is about thirty years of age, wa committed to the County Jail, in Raymond street, by‘sustice Stillwell. He refuses to converse upoi the subject of tne tragedy. The Public Suffer Instead of Receiving; Benefit from Competition. To THe Epiror oF THE HERALD:— Some time since the Metropolitan Gas Company, in ogder, it is alleged, to make matters as dificult as possible for a newly chartered opposition com-.' pany, used every endeavor to induce landlordsy and tenants having and occupying property alon; the routes proposed for laying the mains of the new corporation to permit them to, placed their meters in the houses and stores. In order( to secure the castomers who might otherwise ga over to the new concerao, the Metropolitan Com. pany dispensed with the deposit system, and, ap~ arently, under the impression that the “reform’” aisiature which would. dare to grant mew) charters might also undertake to regulate, Reeeat reduced the ‘price of their supply. f course, the consumers were pleased with tha, prospect of @ good supply of gas on mucerate: terms, but the promises were too briliiant ever ta, be realized. Tne opposition company) veing oui ‘witted by the tactics adopted by the Metropolita Company, have not benefited the community the extent intended by the projectors when th scheme was first broached at Albany, and henct we are threatened with tyranny during the com- tng winter in & worse shape thau we beiore exhibs itéd. A few weeks since the Metropolitan Com~ pany notified their customers that, in accordance; with an act of the last. Legislature, they werey compelied to charge.a uniform rate to all, whici uniformity increased the price to the public five! jeet. Accordingly, the extra| amount was cha: ‘on last monto’s bills. Hi De, secured tue increase, the company now make the consoling statement to those whom they had in-; duced to accept their gas under pretences which they directly contravene, that unless a deposi is paid within the next few days, im accord: ance with the “rules of tife company” the supp! Will be discontinued. Igubmit that this using the public as a kind off shuttlecock to serve the ends of grasping individu- als 18 @ gross outrage. Competition has but in creased the annoyance and vexation. The infla ence of your journal was lent in securing the oppo: sition charter, as a bar to turther extortions a hitherto practised; and now that your fa wil ged is again called to the subject, I trust you will certain for the people why the benefits so lou promised are withheld. A CONSUMER. COMMISSIONER DAVENPORT’S TROUBLE. A Statement by Colonel Wingate. Colonel Wingate yesterday made the following? statement in answer to, Commissioner Davenport’ puvlished communications in regard to the pend. ing suit against bim:— In this matter I simply oocapy the position o: counsel. Mr. Davenport, like miost men who act) as their own lawyers, desires to make # personal matter of the affair. He seems like Mr. Pickwick, who thought it audacious for the attorney of bis’ opponent to speak to bis own lawyer. 1 no intended to be drawn into eons! con tro-, veray With nim, and thus belittie the whole affair. At the same time, ifhe had written me a reasonab! civil letter 1t would re answe! they atyle and temper of his communications e ag made no answer the best answer to them. H Thave not been able to consider myself anders any obligation to Commissioner Daven} spend my summer in the city at work upon iy }) and therefore took my vacation 1 the Adirondacks, and consequently Y dia not re. ceive his communication of August 6 until aitel may rever have spent as much time on the charges then athe, other business of my office a's partner’s absence would rmit, and will hat them completed very shortly, and, 1 trust, to m: client’s satisfaction. 1 should, howe’ feel vei badly if 1 thought they met Mr, Daven port’s views. THE WEATHER YESTERDAY, ‘The following record will show the changes iny the temperature for the past twehty-four hours, in comparison with the corresponding day of 1ased year, Indicated by the thermometer at Hud~ 1B 18% 3:30 P. M.... 7: W P. M.. @ if nut’s Pharmacy, HeRaLD Building :— isis. 1874. mg FROST IN MAINB. Luwiston, augnet 24, 1874. Slight frosts were reported on the low grounta in this county on Sunday morning.