The New York Herald Newspaper, July 19, 1873, Page 6

6 QUESADA. \Arrival of the Celebrated Cuban General Yesterday from Aspinwall. —_-—_—— ‘Interview with the Organizer of the Two “Virginius” Expeditions. THE WIFE OF PRESIDENT CESPEDES. The South American Congress To Be Held at Washington. ; ‘Quesada’s Projected Visit to Presi- dent Grant. ieosetsssicielesdlcinadieact Fifteen Hundred Mexican Volun- teers Promised for Cuba. Toteresting Correspondence from the American Consul at Aspinwall, ee ieserehedeelatentelt Juba To Be Free Within Six Months. General Manuel de Quesada y Loinaz, the cele- brated Cuban patriot, and brother-in-law of Presi- dent Cespedes, arrived in this city at an early hour yesterday morning from on boara the Pacific Mail steamer Colon, from Aspinwall, Shortly after- ‘wards the news spread around the Cuban circles in this city that Quesada, the hero of the two ex- peditions of the steamer Virginius, had landed, and crowds of visitors flocked to see and pay their respects to him at his residence in West Seven- teenth street, A HERALD reporter was among the number, and after the usual introductions had taken place the General stated that in a few moments he would be disengaged and ready to give the HeRa.p all the information that was in his power. Meanwhile the sight was an animated one among the crowds of enthusiastic Cubans present. On the sofa sat the beautiful wife of President Cespedes and the sister of General Quesada, She seemed proud and happy to witness the ovation her brother was receiving, and now and again wouid ask him some question With reference to his recent wanderings in the Central American Republics in behalf of free Cuba. Jt may here be stated that General Quesada has obtained a large amount of material and moral assistance for struggling Cuba in Colombia and Venezuela, and to him 1s due in no small manner the credit of having excited the sympathy of the Higpano-American republics for the down-trodden «Gem of the Antilles.” QUESADA’S APPEARANCE. General Quesada is upwards of six feet high, and has a fine soldierlike bearing. His face is remark- ably intelligent, and his eyes are bright and pene- trating; hos manners are free of that repellant and cold and frigid dignity so often a characteristic trait of Spaniards and their descendants. During @ lull in the cenversation, General Quesada having fortified himself with a new cigarette, signified his readiness to the writer of being ready to answer any questions that he might choose to put. CUBAN HOPES AND FEARS. Taking the hint the reporter commenced the following conversation : — RerorrerR—As you have agitated the question of Cuban autonomy so much in the Central American fepublics, and have had so much sympathy shown to you and “the cause,” will you let me ask you whether you think Cuba can depend for the future upon the sympathy and co-operation of these countries ? General Qursapa—By all means. Cuba is under deep obligations in particular to Venezuela ana the United States of Colombia for the moral and ma- terial aid they have given us, and I have no fear af their becoming apathetic. THE WASHINGTON CONFERENCE. RerorTeER—Did you hear in Colombia anything pew concerning the proposed conference at Wash- mgton, at which all the South American republics were invited to send their representatives, at the tequest of the United States of Colombia, for the purpose of bringing about Cuban independence, either by diplomacy or other means ? General QUESADA—I have strong hopes that ere tong the said conference will take place. I, my- self, bring despatches to the Colombian Minister at Washington which are not altogether foreign, I believe, to the subject in question, PERU. t have grave hopes that Peru is also about to take op the cudgels for us. The people there have already pronounced in our favor, but we are wait- ing for the governmental decision. The President bf the country, Mr. Manuel Pardo, isa man of great intelligence and liberal views, and will do his ut- most, 1 honestly believe, to help rid us speedily | of the horrible tyranny of Spanish rule. Peru's voice at the conference above alluded to would be 4 most powerfal one, THE MINOR REPUBLICS OY SOUTH AMERICA. Rerorrer—Well, what do you think of your smalier friends—Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Honduras and that ilk? deneral QuaSADA—To be frank with you we must remain satisded with their moral support, for they tanuot help us materially. ‘They are, generally speaking, poor, and the mass of the people are in an ignorant condition. When tne majority of these pony repubiics not in revolution they are on the eve of it (laughingly). However, they are fiendiy and have placed their ports at our dispo- sition, » we Cubaus are deeply thanktul to them. COLD SHOULDER AT WASHINGTON. Rerorren—When and where do you look for- : vd “ # termimation of the Cuban struggie, deneral? General Quesapa—The resolution of the Cuban ‘Question wiil undoubtedly take place at Washing- ton. When I can’t say. If the Washington Ca! inet had been imbued with more kindly feelings to the Cuban cause we should have had our liberty Jong ago; tor the people of this great Republic are in sympathy with us, Had Cuba been granted beiligerent rights she would have obtained her autonomy long, long ago. HOPES OF GENERAL GRANT'S CONVERSION. Reroxrexr-—What is your personal opinion con- cerning General Grant and Cuba? General QuESADA--I would not do General Grant the foul wrong to say that I think he does not #ympathize with the oppressed Cubane. | would Tather Dot speak explicitly on the subject @ Presi- dent Grant's sympathy torus ull I have had the pieasare of seeing him, which I hope will be within a@ few days at Long Branch. ‘the Cubans will strug- gle ll their last drop of blood is split, do not tear, and while God gives them breath they will aever show the white feather. It’s not in them (em- phatically) for they are BATTLING FOR LIVE AND LIBERTY. The struggie cannot last much longer, for the Spaviarde a ell nigh exhausted, while the Cubans are becoming more confident in their ultimate suc ess day by day and hour by hour. No country has ever withstood while combating for tts liberty greater bg 9 than the “Gein of the Antilles” or updergone them in & shorter time; the geo- graphical position of the island nas been sadly against us, and telegraphs and railroads have been used it us, yet we have mantully held our own; but the unkindest blow to us has been the apathy of the United States. PORTS FOR THE PATRIOTS IN CUBA. RerosTER—Do you believe that the patriots will @00n be able to bold ports in Cubay General QUESADA—I do most assuredly, and 1 base my hopes upon the idea that the biockade of the coast by the Spantards is now less rigorous than 41 has ever veen betore. I know whereof I speak, and, mark my words, ere many weeks have lapsed we shail hold a port or ports, and as soon 5 we lave become masters of said port or ports We shall find plenty of shipping at our a, Jam Sot an optimist, and these are sober facts. THE DEADLY STRUGGLE The Cuban Republic, since it commenced its Geadiy struggic against Spain, is now far better “posted” shan it ever was before, both in military rr Nap seat its rulers realize the ne a - e mn m0) a aver ai a Deters. re thoroughly than t.ey R DAY OF LIBERTY ABOUT TO DAWN, Remerie—Lron wat | gather jtom your re- . j Was in possession oj an adequate Ply NEW YORK HERALD, SATURDAY, JULY 19, marks you appear most hopeful, General rs vs apecdy” deliverance trom "the arah Speeds General QuEsADA—I have almost certain hopes that within six months Cuba wil be free. FIFTEEN HUNDRED VOLUNTEERS FROM MBXICO. Thave to-day received an important piece of news from Mexico, 1 have the offer from an old friend in that countr; well known general (you may perhaps know that I was in the Mexican ser- vice once myvall}. to bring over fiteen hundred men to Cuba lf the Republic of Cuba will accept his and their services. Undoubtedly it will. RevorreR—Why is it that the bay Se of Mex- ico has shown go litle sympathy for Cuba ? General QuEsSADA—The present President, Mr. Lerdo de Tejada, has undoubtedly but little sympa- thy for us, but am hopeful fora change in these narrow views, Had Portrio Diaz been President we should have seen @ different policy with re- gard to Cuba on behalf of Mexico, Rerorrer—You have been terribly harassed with the Virginius by the Spanisn war vessels of the South American coasts, | believe, General? General QuEsaDa—I have had (laughingly) five men-of-war alter me at atime more than once, The Spanish commanders wanted to have me drawn and quartered tor a pirate. RACY CORRESPONDENCE AT WASHINGTON. General Quesada continued—The American Con- sul at Aspinwall has sent some very racy corre- spondence to Washington, I believe, respecting my stay at Aspinwall, when the captain ot the United States vessel, the Kansas, saw the Virgin- jus sale out of port, The captaim of the Spanish war vessel, the Bazan, wanted the American Con- sul to have all the Virginius’ people sent in chains to the States for trial as pirates, If the authorities at Washington should consent to publish this cor- respondence sent by United States Consul James Thovington 1 believe it would be found interesting reading. The Spaniards were always wanting to capture the Virginius in @ friendly port, instead of of the coast of Cuba, NO ARTILLERY WANTED FOR CUBA. ReEPorTER—Did you send any artillery to Cuba in the Virginius on ber last expedition’ aeneral QUESADA—No, It is bard to handle, and we have no artillerymen, so we sent plenty of Rem- ington rifles instead. 6 Virginius took out Gen- eral Barreto, of Venezuela, and about ninety Co- Jombian and Venezuelan volunteers, inciuding some excellent officers, The last expedition was the largest ever landed in Cuba since the war, WHAT GENERAL QUESADA INTENDS TO DO. ReronTER—Do you propose remaining long in the United states? General QUESADA—My movements are somewhat uncertain at present, My desire, a8 a soldier, 18 to return to Cuba, to ill my old post of Commander- in-Chief, Meanwhile I shall remain in this city to occupy the position of Confidential nt, in com- pany with my friend Mr. Carlos del Castillo, to pug have been lately appointed by the Republic of Cuba, PUBLIC RECEPTION TO GENERAL QUESADA, “Los Bufos Habafiqgos” propose giving, on the night of the 10th instht, at the Thirty-lourth street Theatre, between Second and Third avenues, a performance for the widows and orphans of the Cuban parTions, at which General Quesada has pro- mised to be present, The iollowing are the names of the principal pieces that will be given Suegra Futura,” ‘La Tumba de Agramonte, Negros Catedraticos,” &¢., &c. SKETCH OF GENERAL QUESADA. Manuel de Quesada de Loynaz was born in Porto Principe, in the Island of Cuba, in 1833, and is con- sequently in bis fortieth year. His parents were Wweaithy owuers of plantations, In 1850 he left Cuba and joined the Mexican army, and was attached to the stam of Vice President Juarez, aud fought in the liberal ranks against the conservative or clerical party. He organized in 1857 the Escuadron Quesada, @ cavalry corps, which he commanded with great distinction, At the siege of Pueila, in 1862, he was made a general for extreme bravery. He remained fighting in Mexico till the final expuision of the French and the execution of the Emperor Maxt- Milian at Quéretaro, and since that time he has devoted all his time and energies to the cause of Free Cuba. Lib Los RAFAEL DE QUESADA. His brother Ralaci, who is seven years his junior, saw service with him in the Mexican army, and was known as a bold, fearless offloer. He ranks as a@ brigadier genera! in the Cuban army, and has successfully commanded the two expeditions of the steamer Virginius, which occurred, one Ln 1871, and the second a lew weeks ago, At the landing of the first he took the arms and ammunition into the interior over 160 miles, to Presi- dent Cespedes, .and in the second expedi- tion, which recently took place, the arms were landed, by desire ct President Cespedes, merely on the beach, and were safely witharawn by the Cuban patriots, The Virginius 1s an Englisti built steamer, 500 tons burden, built for a blockade runner, in which service she was captured. She 1s registered in the New York Custom House as be- longing to Mr. Patterson, although the Cubans are her real owners. DISTINGUISHED VISITORS. Among the distinguished visitors upon General Quesada yesterday, at his residence in West Sseven- teenth street, were :—Carlos del Castilio, General B. Varona, Domingo Ruiz, R. T. Arnao and M. Lanza, editors of La Revolucion de Cuba; P. Alara, Dr. Baza, Mr. Cassanova, C. Villaverde, P. A. Bramosio, R, Martinez, P. Gonzales and many others, HAYTI. The Question of the Constitution—The Currency and Finance=The Treasury Robbed a Second Time—The Coffee Crop—Rumors of a Coup Renewed. . Por? aU PRINCE, July 10, 1873, The Corps Législatif, by Executive decree, was convoked tor Monday, the 7th instant, but the ab- sence of a majority of the Deputies prevents the opening of the session. It is still doubtful whether the legislative friends of General Domingue will participate in the sittings, and itis the common assertion of those in authority that if the General's competitor for the envied Executive cnarge (Sena- tor Monplaisir Pierro) be elected by the National Assembly the triends of the former will appeal to the sword in defence of their candidate's right to vhe position. Hence we have no reason to fear one of those periodical revolutionary struggles which have, more than ought else, tended to retard this people in the march of civilization. There are some hopes, however, that this evil may be averted, though the result of the Port au Prince elections for Deputies, Electors and for the mem- bers of the Commune does not contribute toward confirming them. THE RIPENING CROPS. While we are sweltering in the city with an en- feevling, continuous heat copious showers are re- ported from the coffee districts, which give promise of a plentiful harvest of this vaiuabic staple in September. CURRENCY, The effects of the ill-advised, precipitate calling in of the paper currency bewre the government ol specie is pow severely felt by ali classes here. The treasury was literally emptied by the payment, on the 2d inst., to the French Chargé d'Affaires on ac- count of the indemnity of the sum of 900,000 francs. The public officials are unpaid for several months and they are forced to dispose of their “‘feuilles @appoinimens” at twenty-five per cent discount to the merchants, who use them for the pay- ment of import duties. ‘The payment of all debts is suspended, and, if the opening crop should fail, either in its harvest or by a jall from its present high quotations, the government will be irretriev- ably bankrupt. It is deplorable to contemplate that a country so vast and rich in resources, which foe annually 0,000,000 pounds of coffee alone, sides other staples; which gives an annual direct revenue of $4,000,000, gold, and whose entire indebtedness does not exceed $6,000,000, should be 80 wretchedly administered. But President Saget has now an experienced Premier in the Interior Department, and if the new Minister of Finance be as able as he 18 reported to be they may yet suc- ceed in working order out of chaos. THE TREASURY ROBBED A SECOND TIME, Another extensive robbery was discovered in the public Treasury on the 5th instant. Several of tne employés have been arrested and imprisoned sous préven The amount deialcated is not yet established, but is reported to be several thousand dollars, , + | HAVB THRY A BONAPARTE AMONG THEM? Wild rumors are circulating of an Executive coup @ état which will take piace on the opening of the Corps Législatif ina day or two. It is re- ported that the President and his principal Min- ister, General Lamothe, are opposed to the measure and will not sanction it unless the Cham- bers show the same antagonistic feeling which they did last year and which hag so embarrassed, it is alieged, the carrying on of public affairs. General Lorquet is the head centre of the move- ment and is supported by the other Ministers of State and thirty-two arrondissement commanders. The Generai told me to-day that the only plébiscite Pa by his countrymen was that of the my. Another rumor is current to the effect that Cabral and Luperon have become reconciled and form a coalition against Baez, and that upon this an enterprising Haytian merchan: of this city has agreed to advance the revolution $100,000, THE HARLEM CHURCH WAR New York, July 17, 1873, To THE EDITOR OF THE RERALD In your issue of the 16th inst. you say, in speak- ing of tne “Harlem Charch War,” “the second Pitched battic resulted in the retirement of Mr. Lucas from the pastorahip of the ehurch some months ago.” Allow me to say there was no “second pitohed battle; that when Mr. Lucas ten- dered his resignation the church asked him to withdraw it by a vote of over two hundred to five. He resigned because of ill health, and also because he believed he could not build up the church while ita cnemies were doing their best to break it down and to injure him. Baptist families, Jately come to Harlem, were visited by them (the enemies) and uaded not to join the church. One man he knew of four families that would have joined the church if he had not visited thent, By inserting the above you will Fay oblige TRUTH. | at the same tim ROME. Isabella’s Interviews with Pius IX. Queen The Political Aspects of Her Visit. Marfori and the Prince of Asturias Not Received. Her Visits to the Renowned Sanctuaries of the Holy City. Her Pilgrimage a Solemn Fiasco. Rome, June 24, 1873. The visit of Isabella Il. to Rome is drawing to its close, but although the ex-Queen has seen the Pope several times, and, with her daughters, ceived the holy communion from the hands of His Holiness and devoutly ascended the Holy Stairs on her knees—which must have been a very severe task, considering Her Majesty’s extreme obesity— and prayed fervently before some of the most re- nowned sanctuaries of the Holy City, it is not to be inferred that THE ALFONSIST CAUSE has thereby acquired more favor at the Vatican than heretofore or that pure legitimacy and the banner of Don Carlos will ever become secondary in the Supreme Pontif’s aspirations for the future welfare of Spain. Now that the Carlist canse is going ahead in the North of the Peninsula the Queen has, of course, been anxious to counteract the prestige which always accompanies success by interesting the Pope in favor of her son, who is godson of Pius IX. But she has not been able to achieve anything in this respect because the conditions imposed upon Her Majesty from the Vatican, in consenting to her visit to Rome, expressly stipulated that in her interviews with the Holy Father she was to abstain from any aliusion to politics, Among the other conditions it was also re- quired that the Queen should not be accompanied by her majordomo, Sefior Marfori, and tiat she should not bring with her to Rome her son, the Prince of Las Asturias, who is now sixteen years oid and studying in a military college at Vienna. ‘These stipulations were not very well received by the Queen, who, your readers may recollect, was to have come to Reme last Autamn or Winter, but as events are becoming more urgent she has de- clded to accept them and has profited by the op- portunity of the present absence from the capital ofthe King of Italy and the Prince and Princess Royal for the execution of her plan of visiting Rome. The conditions I allude to were imposed prom- inently by the Holy Father, but in reality by Cardinal Antonelli, who, as Secretary of State, has still the management of such questions of diplo- macy and foreign policy as are still competent with the altered situation of the Holy See. Monsignor Franchi, ex-Nuncio at Madrid, whose appointment there has never yet been cancelled, has all along in this affair been the medium of communication between Cardinal Antonelli and THE PAPAL NUNCIO AT PARIS, Monsignor Chigi, who bas intimated to Queen Isa- bella IL, from time to time, the wishes of the Su- preme Pontiff in case of Her Majesty's visiting Rome, The Queen has adhered to these conditions, send- ing her majordomo to Portugal and retaining her son at Vienna, and, above all, not entering into direct political discussions respecting the cosas de Espaiia with the august prisoner of the Vatican, however adroitly she may have endeavored to in- terest His Holiness indirectiy in the restoratton of her son to the throne abdicated by herself, If pious observances can advance the Alfonsist cause Queen Isabella can reproach herself with no omission ot religious rites during her stay in Rome, Om Sunday morning the Pope proceeded at half past seven from hia private apartments to the Con- sistorial Hall, where an altar had been erected for him to officiate at. The Queen and her four daughters were there expecting the arrival of His Holiness as well as the members of the Pontifical Court, THE POPE, IN SACREDOTAL GARMENTS, snmmoned before him the Queen's three younger danghters, Donna Maria Berengaria Pia, Donna Maria Giovanna Pia and Donna Maria Eulalia Pia, aged peapoctivers Frelve. eleven and ten years, ac- companied by their godmothers, the Princesses Odescalchi, Del Drago and Massimo, and adminis- tered to them, with the usual formalities, the holy crisma, His Holiness then celebrated mass and admistered the holy communion to the three yourg ladies just confirmed, to the Queen, the Gountess of Girgenti, the princesses above men- tioned and the members of the royal suite, Alter the conclusion of his own mass the Pope assisted al the celebration of a second, and then, leading the way to his private library, offered to the Queen aud her party A COLLATION WITH HIS HOLINESS, Cardinals Antonelli and Bareli, who was for- uerly Nuncio in Spain, having the honor of situng at the same table with the Queen, her daughters and their godmothers. The ladies and gentlemen of the suite were accommodated at other tables, Everything was over by ten o'clock, and the Queen took her departure, the young Princesses carrying away with them several presents from the Pope, Who, on his part, had received from the Queen @ magnificent piviale, the embroidery on which was worked by her daughters’ own hands. ‘The Queen attended in the arternoon the solemn beggin in the Church of St.John Lateran tor the Pope's acy, on his twenty-eightn year of Pontifical Her Majesty has been also visiting all the principal basilicas, as well as the chief museums and g leries, under the sage guidance of the veteran Baron Viscontt, who for many years has been the cicerone obligato of every crowned head that has visited Rome. GOING TO THE EXHIBITION. Queen Isabella will leave Rome probably to- morrow, and, I understand, proposes going to Vienna for the double purpose of seeing the Ex- hibition and paying a visit to her son, the Prince of Asturias. Yesterday morning she went again tosee the Pope and tnank him jor the honor con- ferred on her daughters the preceding day. We have no notice of General Cabreras having come to Rome as yet, which seems a suiticient reply to the conjectures of some persons that the veteran Carlist leader was going to have a conference with Queen Isabella in this city. The queen did not even accept the offer of the ex-King of Naples, who piaced his residence in Rome—the Farnese Rennonces the disposat of Her Majesty, The Neapolitan Bourbons are pure legitimists, and ee. the Queen preferred going to Serny’s otel. Much as Isabella Il. may have enjoyed her visit to Rome, the inspection of so many treasures of art, the alan: of prostrating herself before 80 many renowned sanctuaries, and, above all, the honor of having her daughters confirmed by the Pope, still, if there was, as is hardiy to be doubted, @ hope in her mind of finding pohtical partisans at the Vatican, she must now be convinced of having achieved in that respect A SOLEMN FIASCO. The consistory which was to have been held at the Vatican yesterday, and at which it was ex- pected that the Pope would have given a solemn condemnation of the law suppressing religious corporations, lias been deferred, probably because the law alluded to, aithough already sanctioned by the King’s signature, has not yet been officially promulgated. Clerical and liberal journals are en- gaged in a most Violent controversy on the com- parative rights and advantages of CIVIL OR ECCLESIASTICAL FUNERALS. This question was originated by the Pope him- Self in his speech to the Cardinais on the 17th inst., wher His Holiness commented most severely on the memory of the late Signor Rattazzi and inti- mated that his future lot must be inevitably de- plorable. His Holiness lamented the atheistical character of Rattazzi’s obsequies in Rome, bat, , blamed the clergy of Alex- andria for participating in the fnerai ceremonies iu his honor in that city. ‘The Paese led the van in defence of Rattazzi here, and in an abusive article on the Pope's speech wound up with calling him an “infamous old priest,” for Which epithet the journal was and the editor is new to stand his trial. In other parts of Italy the press on both sides have taken up the subject, hammer and tongs, and a great deal of bad tangtaee, is being exchanged between the defenders of the Pope and the partisans of Rat- tazzi, Meanwhile, Monsignor Saivai, Bishop of Alexandria, has arrived in Rome, where he has been summoned to give an account at the Vatican of the enormity committed by his ciergy in particl- pating in Rattazzi’s obsequies. JUNE 24—EVENING. I confirm the preceding intelligence with reapect to the departure of Queen Isabella to-morrow. The Queen has expressed her regret at having to leave 80 s00n, sating that she wonld willingly have d another fortnight in Rome. ‘The fact is that there has been rather a pressure upon Her Majesty trom the Vatican, whose inmates are desirous pot to rorevromise themselves, espe cially now that the Carlist cause is assuming such @ favorable aspect in Spain. Queen Isabella has been EXTREMELY GENEROUS curing: hee brief stay here. Hoarnning, with the Pope, to whom she has presen a large sum of money, Cardinals Antoneili and Barili and Mon- signor Franchi, and everybody else in any way en- titled to her gratitude, including, of course, Baron Visconti, have received marks of the Queen's liber- bis A e are expecting @ ministerial crisis here every day, but the catast ¢ is dexterously warded off every time that a ve vote comes by an im- pores of ministerial bd alo from the prov- nces. The subject at issue is the adoption of cer- tain measures proposea by the Minister of Finances for the increase of the et ior the present year. Signors Minghetti, icasoli and General Menabrea are spoken of if Lanza is obliged by his colleague, Sella, to resign. THE JERSEY BANK ROBBERY. Continuation of the Trial of Doyle and McWil- liams—The Prisoner Proctor’s Story—Foley, Officer Romaine and Others Testifying Against the Accused—The Pris- oners Getting the Benefit of the Doubts of the Court. The second trial of ex-Chiet of Police McWilliams and Detective Doyle, of Jersey City, for conspiracy with burglars to rob the First National Bank, was resumed im the Court of Oyer and Terminer, Jersey City, yesterday, before Judges Scudder and Wig- gins, The interest in the case continues unabated, as is evidenced by the increased attendance of spectators, The court room was densely tnronged yesterday. The first witness examined was Mr. Leon Abbet, who deposed to having received from Mr. Winileld a letter, given to the latter by Doyle, to be delivered to Dennin. Denmin read it and wrote an answer which was transmitted to Doyle, ‘The prisoner, Charles J. Proctor, was brought into Court, handcuffed, and he was then placed on the witness stand. His examination occupled more than two hours. Relevant to the conspiracy he gave HIS HISTORY OF THE CASB substantially as follows:—I met Frank Dennin in Washington square, when he told me that he had @ valuanle job to perform, where the Chief ana his right-hand man had put up the job; he said, ‘‘The Chief tells me there is a million dollars in the tin boxes, besides bonds, &c.;’? they would have to hire rooms and dig through the vaults; I told him T would engage in the job, and IfI did not like it I would witndraw and say nothing about it; we went over and I looked at these rooms; saw Mr. Nafew, I think, on the 9th of May, and leased the rooms; { hired Jane Beemer to have the rooms cleaned up; our next step was to dig through the wall; Dennin and Foley did the work while I sat in the anteroom to prevent sus- picion; the firstday we got through the first wall, and the next day we commenced digging through the wall of the bank building; on the sec- ond Sunday I said to Denninz and Foley that they might go on with the job; Cummings pointed out MeWilliams on the steps of Taylor's Hotel, and on another day he pointed out Doyle, saying it is the man with the Dundreary whiskers; another day Cummings gave a letter to a boy for Ciief Me- Williams and @ ten cent stamp; the boy returned with the stamp, and it was given to him; after getting through the first wall | said, “We are liable to get collared; Cummings said that the Chief or Doyle would always be at the station house, and would notify us of @ tumble; one day, while in the Metropolitan Hote! with Den- ning, McWilliams came in, and I was introduced; I said, “You are the Chief of Police of Jersey City ;’’ he said “Yes ;" I sald, “You put up this bank job;” ne said “Yes;’ I satd, “It is a hard job;” McWillhams said that if there Was any squau, either he or John would be at police pear deatterm. and would know about it; it was arranged that if anything occurred that looked suspicious they would notify us; | was the only person kaown as an outside party that could be shown up; they were to notify us in New York whether things were right or not; Frank made the arrangements with the parties about working at night, 60 that they could notily us; we met asecond time at the Metropolitan Hotel; we walked down Crosby street to avoid detectives and pee suspicion; 1 told McWilliams that we would have to cngage the front rooms irom Jane Beemer, and said [ expected he would give his portion; he handed me $70, and then remarked that he was not going directly home and he had no more money; | handed him back $20; did not care about the $50, but waated to test his intentions; think we then went to work at nights; we used some acids and had some other implements which the police did not capture; after my arrest Mc- Willams came to see Dennin in the county jail and conversed with him; | thea pretended not to be acquainted with him; after being unlocked I walked down and saw Mr. Fricky, tne turnkey; I said to him, “Is that Chief McWilliams?” and he sald yes; I did not want the turnkey to know that I knew MewWilliams, as I understood that he was to help us to break jail; about that time Doyle came and said they were going to get us another hearing; a8 we had been illegally committed; that while in the van at the foot of the hill, returning to the jail, we were to be rescued; the right man was to be on the van; he said that Frank had the keys fitting the bandcufs and the door of the van; some friends of Frank's were to be present to assistin the escape; just at this time the turnkey came and let me out; Frank then came up, and he and Doyle went into ne cell; I went down stairs to have a waik; Doyle came again to see me, and regretted our having got into the dificulty; I sent a message to McWilliams, through George Romaine, asking tor furniture; the Chief said I could go to hell, which made me mad; 1 then expressed aoubts as to McWilliams; Dennin and Foley got mad because [ doubted his integrity and motives in getting us out; after this McWilliams came to the county jatiand said tome, “Why did you tell McHurney that you knew me?” Ll replied, “Bring McHorne: here and I'll show you whether I said so or-not;”” Idon't think I told McHorney that I knew him. (Several levters written by Proctor to his sister were handed to the witness and by him identitied). During one of the interviews between Doyle and mysel! Doyle told me that he and Dennin_ met during the night of the arrest im York street; Doyle had his umbretla up, and Mr. Sandford passed by, whereupon Doyle tilted his umbrella so that Sand- Jord could not see him. (This statement ts re- markably corroborative of previous testimony to the same fact.) The letters from Proctor to his sister were then offered in evidence, aud counsel tor detence ob- jected to their admission, The Attorney General arose and said that he offered the letters as a declaration of a confederate of McWilliams and Doyle—or a decaration of an exe- cution to which they were parties—as a declaration of a confederate to which they were bound, It was established beyond a douvt that a conspiracy existed at the time of the writing of the letter. Nothing is stronger to connect a man With an offence than that he is connected with the perpetrators and endeavors to aid them to escape, and this letter shows such a thing. The couspiracy shown to exist by this jetter was necessary to the faithful carrying out or the first conspiracy. It is for the py. to determine the genuineness of the letter, Judge Bedle had already admitted the declarations of Libvie Garrabrant @ month after the death of Burroughs oecause they were made in relation to a robbery, the conspiracy to perpetrate which Was part of an original conspiracy. The Court avowed itself in doubt as to the ad- missibility of the evidence, and gave the defend- ants the benefit of that doubt by excluding the letters. A scene then followed during the cross-examina- tion of tiie Witness by Mr. Winfield. Many ques- tions were put to Proctor, all of which he evaded in a variety of ways, Proctor said he had no con- versations with his sister in Trenton that were not jully overheard by the prison oiticials, FOLEY'S STORY OF THR CONSPIRACY. The third prisoner, Joseph Foley, was then brought forward. He testified in the following terms:—I have known MoWilliams about twelve years; saw him at Taylor's Hotei, at the Erie depot and other places; Dennin first spoke to me about the robbery of a bank out West; met him next day and agreed to go; he then told me that it was the First National Bank in fares Oy and that Chief McWilliams and Detective Doyle were in it and would protect us; we went over the next morning after meeting Proctor; we went to work and got through the first wall that day; I first saw McWilliams alter we quit working by day; next day I was in Chamberlain & Dodge's saloon in Broadway when Dennin and McWilliams came in; I was introduced to McWiiltams #8 one of the arty, and he said it was all right; 1 had known Bosis' ten or twelve months; saw him one day in the jail, and [said to him, “If you had attended to matters as you agreed to we should not have been here ;’’ he said, “It witl be all right yet,” and appeared to be in a hurry to get away. ‘0 counsel for defence—My name is Moses Vogie: have borne the name of Foley sinee the arrest, WHAT AN BX-POLICEMAN SAW. George W. Komaine sworn—I had charge of the Ubree bank robbers in the jail; while they were there | saw the Chief go the prison once ; there were orders to allow one in there except by permission of the Judge; 1 saw Doyle in there twice; the second time he met Dennin, whose ceil was being whitewashed; they went into Proctor’s cell for afew minutes; when Doyle came out he was trembling; asked him what was the matter; he said nothing, rang the bell and went out. William H. Nafew, who keeps a saloon near the bank, deposed to having seen Doyle and McWil- liams go frequently into his place prior to the ar- rest of the burglars. Mrs. Beemer, who gave her evidence on Wednes- never heard any conversation between McWii- 8 and the Mags og near the bank, but saw him eak to Doyle. The case was adjourned uatil ionday. 1873._WITH SUPPLEMENT. CHESARISM IN AMERICA. General Grant and His Third Term. Further Extracts from the American Press. / From the New York Journal of Commerce (oppo- sition), July 16.) An earnest discussion of the third-term question ig useless at this time, If all the papers in the country could be made to take a deep interest in the topic—as few of them can be—its agitation would be @ waste of effort; for other subjects of immediate and vital consequence would soon supervene, and “third term” be laid aside and for- gotten. If @ battle is to be fought over this matter—and we have no good means of surmising whether @ battle will be necessary—the proper time for it 1s at the long session of the Forty- fourth Congress. This preactically begins in December, 1875, and lasts till (say) July, 1876, ana, like all the long. sessions just prior to Presi- dential nominations, will be devoted more to President-making than to anything else. By that time the President will be better able than he now is to say inal) sincerity whether he positively de- clines, under any circumstances, to run again. By that time the republican party will be better qualified to judge whether it is willing to have him again as a standard-bearer. By that time the administration policy, not yet fully worked out, in respect of the South, the tariff, and revenue and civil service reforms, will have made its wisdom or folly stil! more mani- fest. It is @ partial failure now; it may be worse in 1875-6, and the President may be so heavily weighted by it as to be ineligible fora third nomination, in the quick-moving revolutions of the age the great republican party itself may be rentin twain, and some new party, of a hitherto undefined policy and name, may come into power. There is no telling what may happen in two or three years to change the whole face of American politics, A persistence in Crédit Mobilier schemes, back-pay frauds and subsidy swindies, for which recent Congresses have distinguished themselves, may plunge the mighty republican party into sud- den ruin, It has already suffered from the popu- lar reaction against the follies and excesses of which some of its leaders have been guilty; it seems to have passed the zenith of its greatness and to be now on the decline, It cannot live forever, according to the natural law which governs the growth, maturity and decadence of parties as of men. Two or three years more of experiments on the public patience, as foolish as some that the repub- lican party has made, may put it beyond the power of tnat party to elect Grant or any other man. So we say itis useless at this early day to set our- selves to the serious discussion of “Cesarism” in the United States; aud we only glance at it as we would at any other theme which happens to be current ina section of the newspaper world to- day, but will pass to temporary oblivion to-morrow. When the fitting time comes we shall be ready and glad to examine this question of a third term fully, for it is one that has the profoundest bearings on thevharacter of republican institutions, and the very life of the Republic itself; but at presert only declare that in our judgment a large majority of the people are opposed, on principle, to second or third terms fora President. We expect to see the day when a second term will be prohibited by a constitutional amendment, We never shall have a government administered with strict honesty and impartiality until the one term rule prevails, Hitherto the Washington precedent, as it is called, has limited ambitious men to two terms of the Presidential office. No President has ever dreamed of trying for a third term, unless Presi- dent Grant is revolving that daring thought in the recesses of his brain. We have no evidence that he is doing 80. On the contrary, the most Positive assurances are given out that he chor- ishes no such design. He himself, and his most intimate friends for him, repudiate it. They ail protest that he would not take a third nomina- tion on any terms, and fs anticipating with eager- ness the time when he can return to the seclu- sion of his stock farm in 187%. These disavowals do not go for much in our estimation. They may be made in good faith now, as many another de- clination of honors in advance has been made, and still the President may persuade himself, or be persuaded, to work for the nomination in 1876 as he did for that of 1872, His denials at this time are as premature as is the attempt which one of city contemporaries is making to call outa full expression of sentiment {rom journals of all partics on the general merits of a “third term,” or “Cosarism,” which is the more expressive desig- nation of the issue. The question will Keep, and we shelve it for the present. If President Grant, or hia personal friends, or the politicians who have linked their fortunes with his, wonld like to have it discussed in 1875-6, they can be accommodated to the full. Unless we are greatly mistaken in judging of the driit of public opinion, they will find, when the time is ripe, that Caxsarism, or the possession of office for an indefinite period, through packed con- ventions and the abuse of power, is one of those things thatthe American people will not stand. If the reverse of this expectation should be true, then, indeed, and for the first time, should we de- Spair of the Republic! {From the Atchison (Kan.) Globe (republican), July 11.) That there are prominent political leaders in the country, Who are already planning to secure the nomination “of President Grant for a third term, is manifest to any one who is in the habit of watch- ing political straws. Many indications point in that direction, and it is not unlikely that a strong effort will be made to accomplish the result, That President Grant is in favor of, or In any Man- ner connected with this movement, is not claimed by his enemies or admitted by his friends. The New Yor« HERALD in referring to the matter says [quotation from the HERALD.) The power of the republican party (continues the Globe), no less than the hoid President Grant has upon the hearts of the people, was shown by tue heavy majorities in his favor against the combined efforts of his enemies of every name at the time of his last election. Tne bitterness with which his administration had been denounced, and the scurrilous and uncalled-for personal abuse to which he had been subjected, no doubt, did much to stimulate the result, and while he stands high in the estimation of his coun- trymen still, and is honored as few public men have ever been, any attempt on his part to secure @ third election would be suicidal to his reputation. No one man is necessary to the success of any party, and the people of the United States would look with suspicion upon an effort toward the perpetuation of power. The HERALD inclines to the opinion that this will be the next great issue before the country, or at least that it may be, No doubt the country would be better off if there were some national question of vital momei\t before it. To keep the minds of public men so fully employed as to prevent their giving too much time to personal and seifish aggrandizement is highly desirable. The very fact that no great issue is before the people may result in bringing about the con- dition to which the Heap refers, But the absence of any such issue also gives the people an opportunity to watch more closely the attitude of public men and the course of public affairs, and ia acountry where self-government is the cardinal principle, underlying the whole political super- structure, the poopie must be depended upon in all emergencies. The perpetuation of power ts entirely antagonistic to self-government, and should such a thing be even suspected by the American people, there would be sach an uprising as has never been seen in the history of the country. {From the Macon (Ga.) Telegraph (democratic,) July 12.) * * © The slate has been made up, or we are Greatiy deceived, and Grant's name Is OD ih Ue w stronger bebind his intrenchments of the money power, the corporations and tremendous official patronage than any ten other radical leaders with nine-tenths of the voters of that party at their backs. He can pack the National Vonvention despite leaders and voters too, and while they may beat him voting he can always beat them counting, If they ever succeed in overthrowing Grant they will have to call upon the “rebel” and “copper- head” democracy to aid them. Whether they can get that or not depends—as the Frenchmen say, Perhaps the democracy may choose to play @ lone hand, and bave no long division when the “pot” is. raked down. OCEAN GROVE. Close of the Evangelical Convocation. Christian Charity Above Church Creeds—A Suc-- cessful Experiment in Religion—A Meth- odist City by the fea—An Enter- prise of Piety and Thrift— Scenes at the Parting. OckaN Grove, July 18, 1873, The remarkable religious Convocation which has been in session at Ocean Grove, “experimenting in religion,” a8 a brother calied it, closed yester- day. To understand the importance of this con- vention and the obstacles that were most likely to- hinder its success, it must be borne in mind that all the evangelical denominatious in the world sent representatives to it, by general volition ap- parently, for, although there was an invitation, there was no concerted plau of action, no organ- ization, and, in fact, no definite idea of what they intended to do. “We just met,” sald a good old. reverend, ‘to see if we could not live in Christian. brotherhood, despite tenets and doctrines, imm sion, sprinkling, uuiversal salvation, total depray ity, second adventism and general damnation; and, sir, we succceded.” THE OCEAN GROVE ASSOCIATION is one of the numerous wealthy Methodist ore ganizations which have dotted the whole Union with their camp grounds, It has made Ocean Grove—two years ugo 4 thicket of mosqultoes—to. blossom like the rose, and now It rises from the lowland a city, with colleges, avenues, stores, stages—a complete illustration not only of re~ ligious devotion, but of Yankee enterprise. The Tabernacle—a huge circus teut—rises in snow- magnificence on the “Pilgrim’s Pathway,” while; across that avenue is a pilgrim’s boarding house, where Christian, having thrown off his burden of sin, may refresn his inner man. A barber shop and. a cake bakery present their meeds of usefulness: within hearing ofthe flery preacier’s exhortation, or the humbled sinner’s wail. The telegraph andi Post Office perform their duties next door to ® housefull of young Christians at prayer meet ing. The rattle of dishes in an ice cream: saloon mingle with the voices of elders vehe- mently singing, to the masic of a melodeon oppo- sited, “Plunged in a Gulf of Dark Despair.” With» all this happy harmouy of piety and thrift, Ocean. Grove seemed an appropriate piace where to ex- periment for the harmonizing of the diferent brotherhoods of Protestantism. To be sure y A LAPSE may appear now and then. The too thrifty, for Ine stance, have sprung @ back-duor arrangement ou the elders, and cigars, the sale of which is forpid- den on the ground, may be obtained at a certain rear door, and strong beverages may even be secured in the same way, thoagh this latter is a proposition that your correspondent will not vouch for. Piquant young jadies, undeterred by the gt letter of metnodistic propriety, some- times Venture on arch giances and fascinating smiles that savor very fully of un aching desire to flirt, and other unortnodox lapscs may be discov- erable at Ocean Grove; but, a8 a general thing, Christian brotherhood and true piety predominate, and certainty such smail lapses ws I have men- tioned need not condemn the wiole mecting. Here, then, it seemed appropriate to inaugurate THIS NEW EXPERIMENT toward evangelical brotherhood, The denomina- tious represented inciuded even the Quakers and the diminutive organization in Pennsylvania call- ing itself ‘The Hoty Church of God.” There were representatives trom Canada, England, Germany and from all portions of our own country, As to the crowd gathered, opinions differ, as a regular census would probably fat to reveal the jull num- ber, owing to the ‘transient’ character of a great many visitors. But, ata great meeting which took place on the seashore one fiue day during the week, there could not have veen less than 5,000 pevopie present, squatting on ther haunches on the sand, to hear the exposition of God’s Word from vain man, whue the sea uttueir feet thun- dered its great monotone IM His praise. TENETS AND DOCTRINES were discarded during this iriendly convocation, Baptist, Episcopalian, Methodist and Universaiist mingled in brotherly unity wituout permitting the questions of d.vinity, Trinity or ritualisin to enter even into their conversations, ihe last meeting ofthe Convention was held this morning in the canvas tabernacie, and Dr. Ward, of the Presby- terian Church, President of tue (onvocation, pre- sided. He made an address to the congregation where all the representatives of the various de- nominations had assembied, aud congratulated them upon the success of so unprecedentea an experiment. They had come together in great harmony from ditlerent churches, entertaining different — tiieurtes, beliefs, and speaking different theological languages. They had met independeut of doctrines and tenets in brotherly harmony, on the higi piaue of Chris- tian brotherhood, and he beleved they had at- tained the true evangelical allisnce, the unity which the Lord had toretold in His Sermon on the Mount. The Evangelical Alliance, which had at- tempted todo away with doctriues and destroy tenets, had proven a failure. his, the trne alli- ance, destroys no doctrines, but a.ivances the gen- eral standard of morality and Christian love. The Medes, the Parthians and the strangers in Cappa- docia bad come together as one family, for they spoke the one language of God. The venerable Doctor's exposition of the inten- tions of the convocation was HEARTILY ENDORSED, Jonathan Sturgis, Jr., Episcopalian, of Boston; Rev. Mr. See, Dutch Reformea; Rev. Mr. Tuomp- son, Methodist; Dr. Ball, pales Union, and Friend Ladd, of the Quakers, ail addressing the meetin, lu endorsement of his views. A committee ol twenty-five, in which ail evangelical denominations were represented, was appoinied, with vr. Ward as chairman, with power to cali uther conventions in view of the fruits of this, When this meeung was concluded the brerhrea deparied tor home, aiter bidding each other hearty adieus, The grove will Temain occupied by the Methodist persuasion, it being @ permanent Summer watering place 10r SAINTLY PLEASURE SEEKERS, The gracious income from tue goodly investment has already rendered Monmouti county rich, and has “set up” so many Jerseymen in amMuence that they have never ceased to wonder at their sb luck. “Them Methodists,” said one hara-fisted oid millionnaire, with bewilderment rippling all over his freckles, ‘them Methodists are the devil for cuteness |’? 8 with horses that partook of the “bare bones” style, in complement to orthodoxy, prob- ably, have been drivii away from the grove all day, with brethren and sisters so closely packed that they banged the springs at every revolution of the wheels, while the drivers, to give more room, had to seat them on top. A PARTING PLUNGE. The departing brothers mrst, however, hi to treat. themselves to @ final sea and it was a caution to see some of tl brawny Christians buffet the waves. It as equalied only by the fervor with whica they wrestle with sinners on the “anxious seat” at revival. The heavy breakers rolied in ten feet high, their white Ka A chasing one another so closely that the sea, tor 100 yards from shore, was) a@ sea of upheaving foam. These brawny Chris- - tians had to tug, but they were hardy swimmers, Most of them held their own with the skill oi professionals, and, indeed, in their bathing suits, few of them looked clerical enough to save them trom being classed with professionals—swim- mers, or oarsmen or prize figiiters—anything mus- cular, White cravats, apparently, could seldom have been placed more inappropriately than on their collars. Some ofthe sisters also attempted to take a parting plunge; but the sur! was too heavy ior them and one dip was enough, THE CLOSE, Most of the conventionists had departed in the cribs, called stages, ere noon, and a cold drizz! about three o'clock drove ail the rest away, leav- ing Ocean Grove to its legitimate functions of an orthodox Methodist camp meeting ground, THE DEY STREET EXPLOSION. Coroner Young yesterday held an inquest at 1,113 Madison avenue on the body of Mr. Nathan Harsh, the man who was so feariully burned and injured on thé 2ist alt. by the explosion of car- tridges at his store, 49 Dey street, @ full ro) of whicu was published in the HwRALD the ‘day. fo. lowing the occurrence. The cartridges, which had been condemned, were bought by deceased and brought from Governor's island, and deceased and two of his sons were engaged in extracting the bullets from the shells, in doing which the ex- plosion took place, with the result above de- scribed. The jury, on the evidence presented. ren- ered @ Verdict of accidental deata,