The New York Herald Newspaper, September 14, 1872, Page 4

4 FRANCIS KERNAN ‘A Talk with the Democratic-Lib- eral Candidate for Governor. What He Thinks About. Dragging One’s Religion Into Politics. The Charges of Copperheadism and What They Amount To in the Face of His War Record. His Views on the Public School Ques- tion and Sectarian Donations. TO BE OR NOT TO BE—GOVERNOR. The Men Who Will Vote for Him and the Men Who Will Not Vote at All. Francis Kernan, the democratio-liberal candidate for Governor, made the Fifth Avenue Hotel his eadquarters during his stay inthe city. Among ‘others who called upon him carly in the evening of Whursday was a representative of the HERALD, fwho had the pleasure of quite along talk with the ntleman as to his prospects of success in the oming campaign, and the ways and means which Bre being resorted to by his opponents to damage im tm the eyes of the people. Mr. Kernan, it hould be stated, had no idea that the HERALD re- resentative intended to make the conversation ublic, and consequently spoke his mind freely, aking no effort, as he might possibly have made j jad he known that he was being interviewed, to ‘conceal his real views as to certain matters {in connection with his political standing, which ‘the partisan papers are just now making a great howl about, After the conversation had become ‘quite general and the “situation” had been dis- pussed from all points of view the HERaLDrepresen- dative ventured on delicate ground by asking :— “You have doubtless, Mr. Kernan, read in some ‘pf the papers that your religion will bea great Mrawback to you in THE COMING CANVASS ?”” “T have seen statements to that effect in papers (with whose editors the desire ts beyond doubt Wather to the thought,” was the reply; “but I yaseure you I have no apologies to make to any- [body on the score of my religion. The fact of my [being @ Catholic, in my opinion, has very little to do with the questions which are to be dealt with luring the present canvass. Before I allowed y mame to be used in any way as B candidate this matter of my rell- and I do ot think that the opinion ot some of the very best jon in the two parties that a man’s religion ught not to weigh against him in a political con- jtest isa wrong one, The fact is, sir, the American \people have good common sense, and they canrot induced to array themselves for or against any articular candidate solely on account of his re- pe Every effort to do so is contrary to the Bplrit of our constitution and can never result in @ny good, and those who strive to make A MAN'S CREED One of the political issues of a campaign do their pwn side serious injury. Everybody in this coun- ary {a free to worship God after whatever fashion jhe pleases or his conscience dictates, and because One man believes in the teachings of a certain re- ligion, no matter what it may be, I do not think hat ought to be a reason why politically he should ‘= hounded by those who do not agree with him in his religious belief, nor dol think it justifies him in pposing his political opponents on the score of Shetr retigion. I would regret exceedingly to sce religious questions dragged into a political contest, for they would only give rise to feclings and pas- sions which would be dangerous to our politics in the long run. But, as I said before, I have no apol- ogies myself tomake to anybody because Iam a Catholic. I bave always in the past tricd to do my | duty as pee was thoroughly considered, A CITIZEN AND A CHRISTIAN, and I have never allowed my religious convictions to Interfere with my political duties—tnat is, Ihave never made politics and religion dependent one upon the other, for a man’s religious Delief ts one thing, his political belief quite another thing, and Isee no reason why the one should be in any wise connected with the other. If simply because I am aCatholicI should be willing to do anything inconsistent with my Guty to the people of the whole State as chief magistrate, or drag in my religion to imfuence me fn any matter of state, I would deserve to be utterly defeated.” “and yet, Mr. Kernan,” asked the Heracp repre- sentative, “do you not think that there are many ‘who will vote against you for no other reason than because you are a Catholic?’ “I have no doubt, my dear sir, that there are ‘those who will be carried away by THE SENSELESS TALE that certain partisans are making about my re- ligton; but, ag 1 have already said, the American yeone bave a good deal of common sense, and in is State, asin every other State of the one I know that the great majority of the voting popula tion is not so narrow-minded as to allow a question of @ man's religion to enter into a political contest a3 a dead set against his election. Indeed, from what I know of the temper of my fellow citizens of all classes and of ail creeds, I do not hesitate to Bay that there are many—very many—who will be inclined to support me simply because there are those foolish enone to make war upon me because 1am aCatholic. They understand full weli that it would indeed be a bad precedent, that of making a man’s religious tenets the test of his fitness publicofice. Iam sure that the great majority of the people care very little about a caudidate’s re- Ligious opinions, so long as he is UPRIGHT AND HONEST, and ta ever ready to do his whole duty faithfully to the peopte, regardless of caste, cliques, factions or creeds, In the past, as far I have been personally concerned, I bave never allowed myself to be swayed for a single moment for or against any person running for office on account of his religton. The good common sense of the people is against any such narrow-miadedness as that of makin man's religious creed a qualification or disqualifi — for political ofMice, and it is well that it should we $0,"" ‘Some people say, sir, that you would, if elected | Governor, use your influence to defeat any attempt | toward the doing away with BECTARIAN DONATIONS by the State." Some people may make assertions of that charac- ter, but what grounds anybody can have for mak- ing such a charge I cannot for tne life of me unde stand. is there anything in my og’ career that justifies any such Cn ef n the Constitu- tonal Convention, of which I was an humble mem- ber, I took 0 decided stand against sectarian dona. | tions. [used all the argument £ yas capable of | making to show that I for one was opposed to the idea of any particular sect depending upon the State for its support. J argued to show that tf | donations were to be made to any sectarian insti- tution they should be made to all On a fair basis or not at alli—made on a per capita basis. Either cut | NEW YORK) HERALD, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER’ 14, 1872—TRIPLE SHEET: ’ MR. GREELEY’S RETURN. | MORE FRAUDS IN JERSEY. im my remarks,” here added the [a “1 will leave to sak Tou zoomave enzo, rend of 0 ortigion, Le eee tet Meet OS ene e ee “Now, sir,” was Mr. Kernan’s emphatic reply, would look egotistical on my t to talk about what I did in ble strengthenlug the hands of th ment during the war; bub a8 we’ are all together here en amis I can, in @ few words, show you how ut- terly absul THS CHARGES OF COrrERMBADISM are as made against me by certain parties. In the first place, every speech I made in my district in 1860 was yhat was termed a war speech. [ was one of the members of the War Committee, ap- pointed by Governor Morgan, aud I worked day and night by speechmaking and otherwise, to help raise the several iments that were finally raised in the county. Hades t atorsi,Stae ny ie supper down of the rebellion. Iwas elected to one in 1862 on @ war plat! defeating Roscoe K- ling, In 1863, when Thad Stevens rosie in his tt epg Secretary and which: he said the should be before the recess, voted for it, but rose im my place and stated that, while I differed in many respects with the administration, I was ever ready at all times and under all circumstances to all thatylay in my power to strengthen the hands of the government and to ald It in every legitimate way to put down the rebellion, You have only to cousult the files of the Wi n Globe to see that 1 am only facta; but, to be candid with you, I that the charge brought against me of being a cop ad is really worth talking about.” “Still, str, the charge ia made, and ts going rounds of the Grant rB,)? “Do the papers wi make the charge support it by quoting from any speech I ever delivered during the wart? ‘They do not.” Mr. ‘nan smiled triumphantly at this and ex- claimed, “And ti have reason; for they dare not quote from my speeches, delivered during the war, else they would stultify themselves in making the charge they do.’ Here Mr. Kernan retired to an adjoining room to get ready for his appearance at the mass meeting; and General McQuade remarked :—‘‘Let me at this int make a statement as to what I know of Mr. ernan’s war record. Every chai that Is made against Mr. Kernan on the score of his war record not being good will only gain him additional friends in his own county, where his active e:forts in THE RAISING OF TROOPS have not been forgotten. He ran for Congress in 1864. Out of the sixteen men of my regiment who were in the county recruiting for us thirteen were republican, and they all voted for Mr. Kernan. Do you suppose they would have done so had he been Opposed to the carrying on of the war?” “I believe Mr. Kernan was defeated this time, was he not ?”” et “He was,’? Sy ae the General, “and his defeat re- calis to my mind a fact that will show you very clear- ly how absurd it is for anybody to charge him with being a copperhead. There was then tu the county @ sort of branch of THE KNIGHTS OF THE GOLDEN CIRO! which went by the name of the ‘Steuben la- tion.’ Mr. Kernin’s support of the war measures of the administration had been all along, as a matter of course, distasteful to these fellows, and the pleut belore the election they sent out a circular call! upon all ‘good democrats (you know what their idea of what a democrat should be was, according to their own standard) to vote against Kernan, who had, by his advocacy of the war and his speeches, in favor of strengthening the hands of the govern- ment in putting down the rebellion, forfeited all right to the democratic support. Mr. Kernan was defeated through the efforts of tila association, and simply because he had given mortal offence to the copperheads by his bold stand as a demo- mace favor of the War measures of the adminis- ration.” At this juncture the committee cd gee by the managers of the mass meeting called to conduct ‘Stat the putting THE DAUNTLESS BUNCANITES. “it akin puns | The Alleged Secret Understand- ing Between the Redoubtable Moreau and Mr.,0’Conor. COMPELLED TO BE THE CANDIDATE. He Waits the Spontaneous Will of the People. of War claimea | *TO BE OR NOT TO BE.” I not only Whether He Hath Declined or Hath Con- sented, That is the Question ! tho | He Will Serve as Presi- dent-if Elected. The trony with which the public yesterday viewed Mr, Charles O’Conor’s latest letter to the. Com- mittee of the Louisville Convention was not re- fected in the thoughts of the committee itself. Its members, only one or two of whom remained in the city, were, on the contrary, cheerful in the extreme, and they seemed to be filled with some secret inspiration of hope, no less remarkable than had always been their undaunted devotion to tho day-dream of the orthodox democracy. Major Moreau was engaged in the morning in intercourse with some friends of this city, a large number of whom, he said, had been long in seasion discussing the serlous features of THE NEW POLITIOAL PANORAMA, The names of those gentiemen who were of any prominence were withheld. It was also inti- mated that a leading democratic organization had debated long and anxiously whether or not to re- mounce the support of the Baltimore candidates and to give their allegiance to O’Conor, The name of this organization was kept secret. It was vouchsafed, however, that the Apollo Hall commit- tee were making preparations for a grand ratifca- tion mass mecting, to give emphasis to their re- solve to defeat Horace Greeley at the polls. Owing to indisposition and fatigue Major Moreau did not write his proposed letter to Mr. John Quincy Adams on Thursday evening, as he ex- pected, but completed and despatched it yesterday afternoon. Its text is as follows, and throws a little additional light upon the meaning of Mr. O'Conor’s novel letter of “consent,” published yes- terday. 3 THE LETTBR TO ADAMS, New York, Sept. 13, 1872, Hon. Sonn Q. Avaus:— ‘ing Mr. Kernan to the Wigwam, and the HERALD rep- resentative at once withdrew. POLITICAL HEADQUARTERS. Liberal Republican Headgauartors. The committee has shaken off the apathy which followed upon the disastrous results of the cam- paign in Maine, and is girding up its loins to take part in the forthcoming State contest in Pennsyl- vania. While it is claimed that the results in cer- tain of the New England States are of little im- Portance as showing the set of the current, and that elections there have never been any criterion by which to judge of popular sentiment throughout the country, it is universally admitted that, as hereto- fore, the October election in Pennsylvania will have an immense influence upon the Presidential contest. Little doubt is felt as to the result, as the advan- tage of candidates is.strongly with the democrats and liberals, and yet the necessity of active effort is realized, inorder to offset the money and infa- ence of the administration, which, as in the case of North Carolina and Maine, will leave no stone unturned to accomplish success, A con- siderable number of prominent speakers are to be detailed for service there. The list is not yet made out, but, a8 18 understood, it will comprise some of the most brilliant campaign orators of the cg The following engagements are announced for General Kilpatrick :—Emporium, the 16th; Warren, 17th; Jersey Shore, 16th; Academy of Music, Brooklyn, 1vth, and Newburg, 20th. ‘At about midday yesterday the liberal and demo- cratic candidate for Governor appeared in the com- mittee rooms, at Glenham Hotel, accompanied by §. J. Tilden, who {ntroduced him to the Chairman, Ethan Allen, and to the following gentlemen present:—Henry 0. Kent, N. H. Jasper, W, John- son, Secretary of the Oregon Committee, and J. C. Evarts, Montana. Mr. Kernan remained but a short time, the burden of the conversation refer- mag to the great success of the previous evening. 8.5. Cox and F. H. Snyder, Chairman of the New Jersey National Committee, also called. Democratic Headquarters. The rooms of the Demotratic Committee in the Spingler House presented a@ lively appearance during most of the day, caused by the large num- ber of visitors, most of them brought here by the demonstration of Thursday evening. There 1s just at present, as is frequently tno case m a great Political contest, a certain stagnation, which may be likened to the calm which precedes the storm, soon to be followed by renewed energy and activity upon both sides, and a corresponding feel- ing in the public mind, not again to be lulled until the election is over. This situation is fully realized among those who have the responsibility of con- ducting the contest, and preparations are being made pocoreingly. Among the visitors at these headquarters yester- day were R, M. T. Hunter, Francia Kern . Tuden, William Williams, Buffalo; William B. Max: son, New Jersey; Judge J. M. Ashley, Ohio; General Winder, Pennsylvania; William Haynes, Wiscon- sin; ex-Governor E. Soloman, Louisiana; Theodore Tilton, Henry C. Kent, New Hampshire, and F, 0, ote Secretary National Committee, Massachu- setts, Republican Headquarters. President Grant called at the committee rooms in the Fifth Avenue Hotel at an early hour yester- versation with Mr, J. H, Glidden, the assistant sec- retary in attendance. Nothing of {urther interest oceurred during the day. The following visitors were registered:— bred H, Golden, Massachussets; Mr. H. V. Bemis, n Superintendent Public Instruction, Mississippi; Lieutenant Governor Pinchbeck, Louisiana; George E. Spencer, Alabama, P. Hitchcock. Much in- terest is felt here in the Veteran Convention about special tickets are provided in furtherance of a suc- cessful issue. Headquarters Liberal State Committee, chairman—have been changed from the Astor House to rooms 10 and 11 St. The secretaries were engaged yesterday re-arrang- ing the books and papers made necessary by the removai, The rooms will be opea to visitors on Monday. EX-GOVERNOR OURTIN’S LETTER. them of altogether, I argued, or DEAL BQUALLY WITH ALI. | That was my opinion on the subject then, and1 have seen poring since to change my view of the matter. In fact, it coincides with the opinion of every prominent liberal-minded, so-called anti- sectarian in the State who believes that if dona- tons are to be made they should be made with an equal hand to all institutions, I claimed then, as | 1 claim now, that I did not, I do not want now, to have roy Church or Institutions bearing its name benefited at the expegse of the State more than any other. I put the thing in this way:—If dona- tions must be made let every sect be dealt with equally and fairly; if not, cut the Gordian knot of the whole matter by doing away with the dona- tions altogether, In my own county of Oneida the people kuow my opinions on this subject. {have uever made any attempt to conceal them.” “You are also charged with being opposed to TUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.” Mr. Kernun siniled rather contemptuously at Fy tye General McQuade, who happened to be in the room at the time, lavaped outright, and ex- ciaimed, “Why, Mr. Kernan is now a Commissioner of Public Schools in his district, not appointed, mind you, but elected by the e."” “4 ve always been @ friend of the public schools,” remarked Mr. Kernan, after McQuade had ceased laughing, “and there is nothing in my en that shows that I ever was apything . (hen, Mr, Kernan, { have been 80 versiet- | that after a little wi He Declines the Numination for Congress om Account of Broken Health, PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 13, 1872. A letter from ex-Governor Curtin to the Chatr- ; Thomas H. Breon, Nebraska; H. KR. Pease, | tobe held in Pittsburg, and special trains and | Yhe rooms of this committee—John Cochrane, | Nicholas Hotel. | man pf the Republican Committee, dectining the | | Rominatipn for Congress from Centre County, is Published to-day, dated New York, the 7th inst. He says :— But indeven the political of a flerce po the contest, it 18 imposlble honor you propose to confer 9 health forbids it, and tts aditor spect. Be pleased, therefore friends 'n Centre county and eny of my Indispoattion to enter vase 4 A Candidate and the centre for me to accept the ‘6 convey to my val striygie of issues involved in | glasses and looked with an ainused the other counttes | of the Congressional district, who ty their | kind partiality have thought of fue as a canatdate, | My many thanks and declination. Rt dg ¢ L here ra You notice his opinion is very decided, know quite well how eminent he is in { sion. 1 am encourage hil his profes. | rd \y Dr. Parker A hope @ of absolute rest, skilful medical treatment and freedom from care and ex- | citement, | may become pspe you in discussing the pending political [ssues, My convictions are well settled, and will be franki and fully expressed when Lam able to do so witl Justice to myaelt and you | pre enough to assist | as t | with benignity of att Before leaving Louisville T arranged with 0. Chauncey jurr, of Now Jersey, to communicate with you and learn our'wish as to the thine when our ccmmittce should wait Upon you; the fliness of Mr. Burr prevented him from writing you, amd the committee have instructed mo to gor ‘ou the offical action of the Convention at uisville, togothor with the proceedings tad im thts city by the committes. I herewith hand you coples of thie addroas to Me. O'Conor, his reply and the final action of ‘ico the committee the: You were also nominated for the Vi Presidency by, that Convention, and [can say nothing to you LS Ashe | of urging your acceptance of that nominat In addition to Groonge To thelr cyusideration 1. tavws" your coctest, ‘onor.. To Ph TE eg a gins the tact that vou have always so cheerfully pted the leadership of your part; tte alm 101 ‘con- Tor in this groaver moveme! wrhera’ ao muclt fat wake, 01 h i Tet 4 the front. ith candi- fuse your accustomed place dates occupying # loftier posi orally than ever be. re held by the nominees of a convent on, & position above criticism and altogether un: lable from every pont cr attack, we go into the it more than thrice- armed. Should you, h , prefer tho course adopted by Mr. Orcnoe, Keds wali Sechining. tie formal nomisaton of the Convention tondered you, yet not feel entirely at lib- ert refuse the use of your name in this movement of the people, it will serve to place you in perfect accord ‘With that gentleman, and we shall go to the country with ou cs entation oF sntesvenien St ec the Wilf of the people ne it inay be expressed at the Vallot Ox. In this day of rapid political chango it might not be rudent to Venture a guess at the result; but of one hing we may be reasonably certain, tho’ traders and tricksters at Baltimore will surely be beaten, the party will be forever rolieved of all its old, effete, dishonest leaders, and will be prepared to enter upon a how course of prosperity and usefulness. etfully, WILL. 0. MOREAU, MR. O'CONOR'S “CONSENT” EXPLAINED. Major Moreau after sealing this letter remarked that the arrangements had all been previously made with Mr. Adams that he should consent to be the second candidate if Mr. O'Conor did not refuse to be voted for by the people. “Mr. O’Conor’s letter,” said he, “I well know, is a positive refusal to become a candidate of the Louis- ville or of any other Convention. He will not be ‘chief postulant’ in such g comedy. And in the light of the rule of politics that an elector can only vote for the candidate of a convention, his declina- tion seems absolute. But this is a novel movement and such old empyrical rules must be some- what ignored. He is the candidate not of a con- hb * or § party, but of a noble sentiment among the people, ahd he has told us that he can- not refuse to let them do with him as they will.’’ SPONTANEOUS CANDIDATURE. “Then you have had a secret and private fas- surance from him of his willingness to be com- pelled into the field if it be through a spontaneous desire of the rank and file of the national dem- ocratic party?” “Yes, we have demonstrated this to him as being @ fact, and his letter defines his position and his reasons for holding himself aloof from the manipu- {ation of political machinery. He will not even touch the one spring by which he would avow him- self a candidate before the people; but peated solicitations has only given us the answ | that he could not prevent our running him, and thus tacitly has given us _ the privile; of page him tn the race. He said to me that in re- fusing to accept the nomination and to constitute himself the candidate of his. by Reg has gone his length and, as he implies in his letter, he can go no farther. Ifso elected, he has given assurance that he will serve the nation in the capacity of President of the United States. This is his own language.” THR RRAL MOTIVE OF THE MOVEMENT. “Do the leaders of your party really expect to win the battle ?”” “No, sir; we only expect to preserve the organl- zation of the democracy and to save it from the re- sponsibility of the Baltimore nominations, We in- tend to ensure the defeat of Greeley.” “And it is from this view of your purposes that Mr. O'Conor has privately consented, while he pub- ge declines, to accept the candidature of the rty ? day morning, and passed a few moments in con- | Party “Yes, sir.’? “Do you think that he has any expectation or hope of being elected 1” “No, sir; he has not. In fact, he will not, I think, expend much thought upon the matter in future, having given us his final answer and haying at- tained the desired understanding with us.”’ “Wat is THE NEXT BPISODE | in your movement ** “The Indiana State Convention, which takes place on next Thursday at Indianapolis, We shall | Tuna strong kit “Knowing, then, that you have no chance of suc- cess fn the Presidential contest, will your leaders engage actively in the campaign ?’ “Yes, we shall make a Vigorous fight,” replied the Major, with an air of confident determination. The reporter bid him good-by and went in search of Mr. O’Conor, but not without dire misgivings moving in bis manly breast. CONVERSATION WITH MR. O'CONOR, The unwilling candidate of the ‘Bourbon straights’ was as eariy a8 usual at his office in Wail street, and no change could be marked in ordinarily grave aud punetilious demeanor, He tered at precisely ten o'clock, and was impress- vely received by his antiquated clerk, who bowed rofoundly and ushered him tnto the inner office. Here Mr, O’Conor removed bis overcoat and placed his umbrellain a corner, He seated himself in his e chair and took up the Wear ae rgd to read. Unfortunately, however, just that moment the saintiike clerk entered, and his gentle eyes beamed ction upon his chief as he whispered, with a premonitory gesture of the fore- finger of hig right liand, ‘‘A reporter wishes to see you, alr,” and extended toward him a thin, rec- jangul plece of pasteboard. Mr, O'Conor stated foY @ few moments aghast; then adjusted his Xpression at ‘The visitor entered the name thereon Inscribed. nme, My broken | the room and was received with chilling courtesy tions T must re- | that @id not impart to him much additional cour. age if he needed any. Mr. O'Conor slightly inclined his head and in his absolute tone of voice said :— “You wished to see me, sir? What is the object of your visit DID HE DECLINE OR CONSENT ? The keen black eye of the aged counsellor ex- nephing but blank inquisitivences, “In regard ic your letter published this morn- ing—Was It intenugd to be construed as a positive declination of th omination ? or is there an understanding whereby your name will yet be, used t of the democratic cataxlate 1” “Lo inswer you no questiond. will not say anything upon the subject.” “But there is some curiosity felt by the public to know What sooret errepgemeus may Lavy i¢d 1 the confidence with which the ‘Bourbons’ cling to vothdy letter alr, ia nuimiolon olear to If, and ro others Yoannot help it." tie wm nagerstood, 0, You are unwilli assert yourself a cant ite, yet will accept ny B4 taneous’ “Teare not what is understood, sir,” and Mr. O’Conor walked excitedly up and down the room. “Will you permit me to you “T will gt a ‘the pl ‘ivilege prs vo you the pri me no ques- tion, What it have you, even as representing the public, to [nterrogate met You ask the question in spite of my teeth, but I tell you before- hand that I shall not answer it.” “Suppose that ts were willing to be run’ — “I do not give you the privilege to ask that question.” “, were elected, would you''— “I repeat, you shall have no anawer."” “—accept the office as the spontaneous choice of your party?’ Mr. O’Conor took up a paper and began to then arose and up and down, as if conceal- ing a secret agitation. ‘You have not (oleae from me to attempt to extort anything (5 m me.’? ‘J have not been able to do so, alr," sald the re- porter, smiling; “nor dia I wish to do more than to ask you a few simple questions, which you are not urged to answer.” Mr. O’Conor smiled, then looked stately once and as his visitor witharew, slightly inclined being careful to close the door after his egress. aged clerk in the ante-room murmured @ seraphic ‘‘Good-day,” and the reporter departed, Sen BROOKLYN POLITICS. The condition Bolitics In Brooklyn i decidedly of @ complicated character. The “Na- tlonal Committee” for instance, have nominated three Congressmen: two Grant republicans and one democrat. The leading spirits of the “‘Nation- ais” are Johnny Goiding, ex-employ¢ of the Board of Charities, and Mr. Gardner, late candidate for Alderman of the Fifth ward. The Kings County Reform Committee, headed by ex-Congressman William E. Robinson, and backed by the Fenian Brotherhood of the county, will nominate a full city and county ticket on next Tuesday. The pri- marics will be held tn each ward on Monday even- ing. Their platform is opposition to municipal cor- ruption and the support of Greeley for the Presidency, The TR yersonian ‘Comuittec, engineered by ex-Count; Judge Troy, Walter J. and Timothy Desmond, are also in the field against cor- ruption, and will make out a {ull ticket next week. Their candidates are chiely men who have been identided with “reform.” The Bourbon-straight democrats, headed by Robert Macoy, will unite with any body of men Maher igs the principles of Jetfer- son, Monroe and Adams in opposing Greeley's election. The Bourbon boys are not numerically strong, however. The promised reformers' com- mittee of 100 has not yet been fairly Gigenised. They bropass also to nominate @ clean ticket and to repudiate any candidate nominated by either of the other committees, The r or Demo- cratic General Committee are working with a spirit of brotherly love with the liberal republl- cans. such @ polltical (op i ag $3 these two parties now present has never before been wit- nessed in Kings county. The regular democra' have invited colored liberals to seats on the floor of their committee room during their ceeiaaae: and the colored men have accepted their in tion. They are eer elated at this new departure. A fair share of the iis will be demanded by the liberals when the tickets are made up, and this, itis Coat Fa will cause trouble, The democrats, knowing that they are more powerful than their co-workers, want all or at least the best of the offices and the most of them. The offices to be filled are :—Col 8s—Second, Third and Fourth districts; Sherif, two Commissioners of Charities, two Justices of the Pot » nine Assemblymen, two Justices of the Sessions, and Aldermen in the even and Supervisors in the odd wards, The fight will be a lively one, and with five tickets in the field the republicans have a fair chance of waking quietly in and capturing all the offices, NEW JERSEY POLITICS, Ca ery Regular Inauguration of the Campaign— What Is Thought of the Greeley Elec- toral Ticket=The Situation in Essex County. It is only now that the campaign in New Jersey may be said to have really got fairly under way. As regards the State, both parties have held their Conventions, and all that now remains is to argue the people into voting one way or the other. Up to this time @ gencral apathy seemed to have settled, and really badly settled, on politics generally; but henceforth theres promise of a lively time in Jersey aseclsewhere. A very considerable portion of the democracy there turned rather @ sour face at first on the mélange dished up at Baltimore, and it was considered inexpedient by the teadcrs and masses of the party to force the sour faces into @ hasty meal of what the radicals called “boiled crow.” It was thought best to wait and let time tone down their disgust, Early in the cam} 28 pollcy of coaxing and persuasion was adopted, on he principle that more flies could be caught with molasses than vinegar. Said one of the bitterest of Bourbons the other day to the Hanaup reporter— “Well, this goin’ for Grecley is pooty tough work, you know; but if it kills mel fw peed Til have to goit. That Blanton donkey crowd settied hash and squeiched all the ‘straight’ out o’ me. Iknow, anyhow, I might do worse in go for It is Gatirdiy too carly yer te cay, how matter: ets will turn out in New Jersey, bat it ts certain that if there is any considerable number of democrats who will not vote for Greeley they are extremely backward in coming forward. he harmony and enthusiasm which Pere in the Trenton Con- vention on Wednesday can be taken as a true ex- ression of party sentiment, then my ! It be said hat the democrats who will not vote for Greeley will ee ee, At ft ven! appeared “Old War Horse ‘Naat; PRBS Hen Pee who said in the Fifth Avonue Hotel fizzle that sey would give 10,000 majority for Grant if Greeley was nominated at Baltimore. The Judge has com- pletely veered round in his On, aS have several other hard-shell Icaders. ery one of them is now strong for Greeley. THR WORK OF THE CONVENTION, it is conceded on all sides that the electoral ticket nominated is an exceedingly strong one, headed as itis bites B. McClellan and Abraham S. Brown. ing. o latter gentleman isa rer of Camden, and was prominen' iovernor last Fall. There is some fear that ellan may not rie ye he has manifested a position to keep al politics altogether. TAE ESSBX COUNTY SITUATION. The conclave of Grant republicans forming what is known as “The Newark ency”’ sometime go agreed that their only hope of the six! Congressional district (Essex county) was in put- ting forward their very best man. | agreed upon ex-Governor Ward, as first announ in the HeRaLD. Soon after the Newark Grant organs threw custom and precedent aside and came out strong for Mr. Ward. There were those in the party, and not afew others, who thought Mr. Thomas B, Peddie, who had been twice ror of Newark, a man who by his own Industry built up at Wealth from nothing, was entitied to the nomination and would make a fine run. These roundly condemned the article about Mr. Ward, denouncing tt as dictatorlal and an impudent ugur- pens of the nominating convention's prerogative, ‘herefore ia there considerable feeling in Grant republican circles about the Congressional nomina- tion. However popular Mr. Ward may be with the add there Is reason for hy © that jl not ave a walk-over in the racé for the nomination. WHOM WILL TITRE DEMOCRATS NOMINATE ? The choosing of John A, Boppe, a wealthy New- matter about Adolph Schalk and the democratic nomination for Congress. Since the last report in ¢ Heras the talk has been almost entirely con- ined to Nehemiah Perry. hé nomination, which couple of years ago was the prize for which a great battle was fought inthe party and worked e overwhelming defeat of Orestes Cleaveland, is now folng a begging, althougn the chances of an election were never better. But another week or 60 will develop who's who and what's what. GENERAL DIX TO THE SOLDIERS. The following letter Was read at a meeting of thé Natiqnal Veteran Club of Washington, on Wednes- day evening:— SBAFIELD, WESTHAMTON, N. Y., Sept. 9, 1872, Dear Sik—I have recelved your favor of the 27th ult. asking me, in behaif of the National Vet- eran Club, fo attend and address a meeting of sold- ar ae sailors at the city of Washington, on the ns Tt would afford me greet pleasure if it werein my power to comply with your request; but my occu- pations here and in New York rendor it impossible; and, indeed, | have becn compelled to decline to speak at public meetings suring. the present politi- cal canvass. I lave explained fully and frankly my objection to the election of Mr, Greeley. I should regara his success as one of the greatest misfor- tunes that could befall the country, and I cannot conceive how any one who perilled his life for the preservation of the Union under General Grant and our gallant military and naval commanders can give lis support to Mr. Greeley, who was will- ing to see it dissolved without striki biow to save it. 1am, dear sir, very truly youi ey UOUN A. J. B, Taomrson, Chairman of Committee, EX-ASSEMBLYMAN J. T, KELLY APPOINTED ASSESSOR, A vacancy having occurred in the Board of As- DIX. Fifteenth ward, John Tylei’ Kelly, the popular re- resentative of the Fourteenth Assembly district in the bpp yoni) of 1871, has been pppointed by the Tax Commissioners, He yesterday took the oath of oMce and entered upon the dischacge of the dues easiaagd to Lim, ark German brewer, for district elector, settles the | His Opinion of the O’Conor Letter—Some- thing of a Muddie. Mr. Greeley returned to the city yesterday by the New Haven Railroad, having left St. Johnsbury at five o'clock on Tuesday evening, immediately after delivering his agricultural address, At Springfeld yesterday morning a representative of the HERALD tendered him the tnformation chat Charles 0’Conor had accepted the Bourbon nomination, such being the purport of the news that met the party at that stage of its return trip. The Philosopher had heard nothing whatever of the result of the conference between O'Conor and his nominators, and was dis- Posed to listen attentively to any intelligence from that quarter, “The news is that Charles O’Conor accepts, Mr. Greeley,” said the Hena.p representative. “Indeed! Well, I hardly thought ne would.’ “What effect will this have on the Presidential canvass?" “I don’t think it will affect tta mite either way. It doesn’t amount to anything at alt.”’ “Will you atick to your candidacy ‘now or wth, draw Tat ett re “Withdraw |" said the Sage, ar. brows. “Ho! ho! I never thought of it ¥.” Thls le 4 itette third party move- as apring up in every ential cam- palgn, none of them, I believe, more insignitioant “Do you think O’Conor can carfy many votes with him 9" “Oh! Lau somo old hunker democrats will bo tempted by the luxury of voting for an old life-long demoorat fo follow the ticket, but few.” The New York papers met the PI yr and his party at Bridgeport @nd in nearly all of them he found “O’Conor declines” served as & head line for the report of the nominating conference. The latter clause of O’Conor's letter settled the conviction in the Sage’s mind that the Louisville nominee had not accepted, acco! to the general interpretation of the word. In reply to an inquiry a3 to the precise meaning of O’Conor’s letter the di summed it up as follows:—‘I judge it means just this, ‘I won’t run, but you may vote for me if you want to.’” Mr. Greeley debarked at Forty-second street, and proceeded to the residence of a friend in Fortieth Street, where Colonel Bory O’Kent, of New Ham| shire, and a number of other prominent uberals called upon him, A VOICE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. Senator Hale on the Political Situation— He Holds the Mirror up to his Old Asso- jates. Hon. John P. Hale, for many years a leader tn the republican party and Senator in Congress from New Hampshire, publishes a long reply to a corres- Ppondent who asks his views of current politica, He says:—Mr. Greeley’s case is plain enough. Un pages 353 and 359 of the first volume of his History of the American Confilct, you will find his own ac- count of himself as he was at the breaking out of the rebellion. He there says that on the second day after Mr. Lincoln’s election, November 9, 1860, “the following leading article appeared in the New York Tribune.” You will find, tie says, in that article :—‘If the Cotton States shall decide that they can do better out of the Union than tn it, we insist on letting them go in peace.” To avoid all possibility of bemg misunderstood, he repeats the same doctrine in different words—‘‘Whenever @ considerable section of our Union shall delibe. rately resolve to go out, we shall resist all coercive measures designed to keep ftin.” Lest one article might not make his position sufficiently conspicu- ous, he wrote and published many artictes con- taining the same doctrine. Lest all his newspaper articles on the subject shoud, in the course of tine, ‘be forgotten, he copies one of them into his History of the American Confict, for the apparent purpose of preserving, in the durable form of a historical oo his undisputed claim to the title of an origl- se cesal jonist. Ifa majority of Southern voters, that is, of free white men, would ««eliberately resolve to go out,” be edged himself to resist all coerctve measures ‘ching his ¢: augiea thing.” desi to keep them in, That was the simplest lan ever Bt sted for the dissolution of the inion and the perpetuation of slavery. What stronger invitation ‘to go out’ could he have given the South than that ple ‘to resist all coercive measures designed to keep it in?” Slavehoiders, anxious “to go out,” but dreading the ‘coercive measures,” read Mr. Greeley’s pledge republished in every Southern paper. Its effect is well known. Among the influences that changed the doubting and hesitating white men of the South into firm and ardent secessionists, none was more effective than Mr. Greeley's pl to “resist all coerct' measures.” Whether that pledge was the meai ofturning the and giving the active seces- sionists their major! ity, we not certainly know untli the day of final recko , but this we do know, that for all the ruin, desolation and misery of the seceasion war, no man, North or South, is more responsible than Mr. Greeley. He is, in principle, a secessionist to-day as he was when he wrote that article of November 9, 1860. Lobserve he is stumping the country in his own behalf. When he makes his next stump speech let any one ask him, in the face of the world, if he still holds the doctrine of secession as stated by im on the 360th page of the first volume of his ered 2 of the American Conflict,”’ and he may try to evade the question; but if he 13 compelled to ive @ direct, manly and true answer, “yes” or 'no,” he will answer “Yes.” His secession faith tl of his whole political character. On hat e urged the taxation of the country to pay the slaveholders for their slaves, when he knew they would not sell them. That plan was a part of hia system, calculated to encour: secession by convincing the South that tee North wag trembling with terror, and would do anything but fight for a national existence. doctrine of secession is the only article of litical faith to which he has shown any disposi- ion to adhere. He was supposed to be an untlinch- ing high tari’ mau; but, to get tree trade votes, he ledges himself to smother and su his opin- Bons ‘On the tariff question, and to give no advice and use 20 Had on that question, wnich he has aged as Of the most vital importance to the coun- ry. He has given no pledge to smother and sup- press his op-nions on the secession question. What such a om ige Would be worth, while lis pledge “to realist all coercive measures” remains unredeemed, youcan j as Weill a3 I. If such a man could be elected President what would he do when his secession views nad _encour- aged the South to secede again? He would, of course, offer to Lire them to remain by pay- for their slaves. hat would be the effect of Mr. Greeley’s elec- tion ? Manifestly the South would at once be in- stigated by his sentiments to agitate the question of compensation for their slaves, their debt and their pensions, and with the fiery elements thus fanned into a flame, the agitation would naturally end in our obi to recali Grant and the army to put down another insurrection. Ob- viously no such man could be nominated for Presl- dent by the republican party. When he was satis- flea of that, then, and not til then, he leit us. That is one serious aspect of Mr. Greeley’s case, and if, in addition to pis Evers, opinions upon this Momentous question of American nationality, you take into the account his excessive vanity, weakness and vacillation, his Sabby and yielding moral nature, hig eccentric tamper and inordinate hankering for office, you have, [ think, @ full ex- D anyon of his present lamentable course. . Sumiler’s case is measurably plain to those who, like myself, have had beter means of know- ing the man than is afforded by public speeches. Mr. Sumner was not, as has beeh claimed tor jum mong the of our earliest anti-siavery champio! a Mr, Garrison, Mr. Phillij Mr. Gerritt Smith, Mr, Giddings and others ante-late Mr, Sumner by many sessors by the removai of Meyer Meyors, of the,| tert in their espousal of the cause of the slave. jut I bear cordial witness that, after he entered upon the work, he was among the most earnest, faitnfal and persistent of the Liat J of peed His arbitrary und dictat tr nM ure rende: ua cullariy liable to substitu if) f ma hasty im- seg for genvie hon and principles of public policy. I cap readily understand that Mr. Sumner might be betrayed by his wounded vanity and im- det temper into a temporary misjudgment, jut that he could, under the influence of personal irritations, bo so blind or go dishonest as to delihe. rately and persistently counsel the colored men of the nation to use their newly-acquired right of Bu to reinstate their life-long euemies and oppressors in the control of the government, is to me the strangest pheaomenon of these latter days. THE LIBERAL OLUB. A mecting of the Liberal Club was held last even- ing at the rooms of the Club, in Plimpton Building, Stuyvesant square, W. L. Ormsby presiding, and D- T. Gardner secretary. An extract from an article in @ Geneva paper, in relation to the excitement about the comet re. cently threatened, was read, showing that so far from Professor Plantamour having predicted the coming of a comet, he looked upon the rumor of such an occurrence as & mere absurdity, and stated—what ts sald in the article to be true—that the existence of the devastating heavenly body bad no more surety than was to be found in the tmagina- tion of a Geneva café Bohemia: The paper of the evening, entiticd “Humboldt.” was read by K. G. Holland, and was an interesting review of tho life and labors of that eminent natu- raliat. At the conclusion of the paper remarks upon tt were made by Professor ind Der Weyde, Protessor ladegborg aad Ds, Advipa vy: The Chosen Freeholders of Hudson County. Members Concerned in Contracts—Free Lunch te Bumsollers and Politicians—What It Costs to Maintain Paupers and Prisoners—Deplore- blo Lack of Discipline~The Cost of Supplying Two Juries with Meals, Drinks and Cigars, There may be some who suppose that because the municipal frauds in Jersey City have received at- tention from the HERALD, the Grand Jury, the Courts, and the State Prison officials that there is an end to what Judge Bedle styled “prostituting public office to private gain.” But the following developments are caleulated to lead toa diferemt conclusion, Thq indictments found by the famous Gragg Jury of Hudson county have produced @ ‘Wholesome effect in every department of the city t ting th der th Of the convicted Palics Goniiiiogshi TS latter gffictals, tt was believed, would manifest signs of repentance when the Court extended to them unlooked-for mercy and saved them from the degradation of the prison cell. Severai indict- ments are yet hanging over them, and these the State authorities considered it would not be neces- Sary to bring up at the next term ofCourt. Bus the defiant attitude assumed by the Commissioners in resisting the mandate of the Governor makes it incumbent on the Attorney General and District Attorney to force them into true repentance by a wholesome administration of tholaw at the next term of the Court. That branch of local government which claims as tention in the present article is the administration of the Board of Chosen Freeholders of Hudsom County. Some questionable practices have beem indulged in by members of thia Board for several yoars past which escaped public attention. There were little rings and jobs, just as in the Board of Public Works. On this subject Judge Bedle said, im his charge to the Grand Jury at the opening of the Court last January:—“There is another act to which your attention is called, and that applics to the Board of Chosen Freeholders, (The Court here referred to the laws of 1869, page 108). 1¢ is doubtful whether you would have. power to indict under that act, inasmuch as the penalty seems to be provided in the act, which ie the forfeiture, speaking generally, of the gain of the result of being interested in acontract, But if tn these officers you find fraud or corruption you indict by the common law without reference to ang statute. In this connection the Court refer youto section 160 of the Jersey City charter. The doc- trine of conspiracy may also apply to those officials ifthey enter into collusion with @ contractor to defraud the city.” ‘The extraordinary length of time devoted by thas Grand Jury.to the municipal frauds in Jersey Clty was sufficiently trying to men who had urgent busi- fess to attend to, and the irregularities in the Board of Chosen Freeholders, being of minor importance, were transmitted to another Grand Jury. Some of these irregularities will quickly appear. The law provides that neither city nor county officials shall be directly or indirectly concerned in any contract orin the sale of any article to the city or county respectively, Yet it is motorious that up to thie day members of the Board of Chosen Freeholders have supplied goods, mostly through second parties, to the county. This practice had become so com- mon that at the meeting before the last Mr. Olay- ton offered @ resolution that mo momber of the Board shall sell anything to the county. The resolution was strengthened by an amondmens Offered by Mr. Lewis and was adopted. This, how- ever, did not check the evil, and at the latest meet- tng, on Thursday of thia week, a resolution was adopted providing that proposals shall be recetved in future for the supply of beef to the county Alma- house and prisons. The beef has been hitherto sup- plied by a member of the Board under the name of “a friend.” To this very day the groceries an@ provisions are supplied by another member, who is @ member of a firm in Chambers street, New York. The stationery and printing contract seema to be an helrioom to a firm in Liberty street, New York, although the work could be performed a& cheaper rateg in Jersey City. The law requires that all contracts excceding the sum of $500 shall be awarded by advertisement; et this provision has been practi anoulled, ad th the case of the contract for the erection of a new sence around the Court House and jail grounds. this case the Committee on Public Grounds and Buildings opened the Brel is and scanned them before they submitted them @ meeting of the Board. A strong protest was made against this by some of the members, on the ground that such @ proceeding rendered competition valueless, contract was awarded to a Hoboken man. ‘The public dinner system has been a lng evil in this Board. The taxpayers of the county would not object to paying for a dinner, on certain days of meeting, for men who devote their time without fee or reward to the public service; but they ob- Ject most decidedly to paying for squads of friends ‘of the members, especially comeeters, Peg oliticlans and common ‘oom immerse, pn has ; a raged ergict ~~ ice. Ugrd oe! codnty Hot egpitood under expense om this head. Certain committees of ‘tne Board hold meetings, hire carriages, invite friends sad drive to the County Farm, where dinner aad w weeks ago & resolution wae adopted at a meeting of the Board that the dinner system at meetings of the Board be abolished; and on Wednesday oflast week Mr. Brinkerhotf, the Director ot the Board, had a resolution adopted at # meeting in the County jouse that no re- freshments or dinner be provided hereafter to any Member of the Board sit in committee at the expense of the county. ‘he number of cows bought for the County Farm and Almshouse for the past eighteen months aver- ages one a Month, and the price $125 for each ant- Hundreds of cattle of the same quality could be furnished—as a member of the Board re- marked to the HBRALD representative—for $65 each. Out of the eighteen cows now on the farm only four give milk. Two months ago the Commit- tee on County Farm effected @ nice little ba which tn this article is “too cussed good lost,” as Nasby says. Two new milch cows were purchased for the County Farm, and the purchaser received in exchange two dry cows, together with the sum of $140, An Sani was made about the new comers soon after, and the reply was, that “they went mad and had to be shot.” The cost to the county for matntaining the paa- pers and prisoners 13 one dollar and seventy-Ave cents a head per day, while the cost to New York for each inmate on Blackwell's Island is only thirty- five cents, or about four-filths less. That very great attention is not paid to the management of the Farm ts evident from the fact that in the imme- diate Viotatey Ot = ee se Boe ty A Saas with weeds, Whi bbages make t earl here and there Hee bags ih ths Satiara. But the most crying evil ofall is to be found ia what is misnamed the eee ofthe institution. Th frpogent ttle Ones who have lost a father, a mmol he or both are left to mingle with those whose oor are traced by iniquity aga 1039 fect have rodden “the broad wi he aoe says, “Woe be to him who shall afdal. ize ne of these littie ones,’ and Fact ices the Most reprehensible are froanentiyine Ru ed in before the youth of both sexes. Asa reliminary step towards reformation in this mat- ir Mr. Startup offered a resolution at the meeting of the Board op Thursday that a special committee be appointed to regulate the discipitne in tae Alimshouse, but the resolution was referred to the Almshouse Committee, which was only & method of rejecting it. The following details of a bill Incurred by the § ia the Cooney murder triai, and which was ordered by the Board to be paid, will furnish more instruc- tion than amusement to the taxpayers of Hudson county :— County or Honson 7" iisitia To Joux Auten, De F eR TRIAL COON June 1, shdrurs J ” Dejttks..... 2 S Beinke Drink: Cigars 1 bottle br: 2 vottles meee omne EX Sessseussxcee S muw o Total And in the Sheeran-Reardon election case, where Harmon and others, judges of election, were on trial tor alleged frauds in counting the bailots, the jury and two cot bles attending them were fur- nished with meals at the expense of the county contrary to all precedent. The following bill, pre- sented by Mr. John Ailen therefor, was audited and ordered to be pald by the Board on the 8th of Aa- gust:— July 18, Ure —Broakinst, dinner and supper, 42 meals. Gnd parce | randy aud one t bran ad one piut whiskey, | |