The New York Herald Newspaper, September 11, 1872, Page 4

4 NEW YORK HERALD, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1872.-TRIPLE SHEET. . FORRESTER., | besten Sete” History of His Wanderings from the Time the Nathan Murder Was Committed Up to His Arrest in Washington, DARING AND DESPERATE DEEDS. The Hunt at New Orleans and How He Avoided Capture. THE FLIGHT TO MEMPHIS. Finding a Friend in a Hackney Coach Driver. SAVED AT SAVANNAH. Extraordinary Coolness in the Pres- ence of Imminent Danger. BEARDING THE LION. Ten Months in New York and Constantly in Company with First Ward Detectives. ADVISED TO LEAVE THE CITY. The Arrest in Washington and the Journey to New York. CASINO, COGNAC AND CHAINS The Accusation of Crime and How He Will Be Able to Refute It. His Arrival in New York and Incarceration at Police Headquarters, WAITING INVESTIGATION. Frank Campbell, alias Billy Forrester, was: sent before Superintendent Kelso yesterday morning, and, after a protracted interview with that oficial, he was ordered back to his, cell at the Central OMce, Detectives McCord and Farley were then sent for by Mr. Kelso, and the working up of the details of the evidence against Forrester was entrusted to them. As was shown in the HERALD of Monday last, the New York police have been looking for Forrester fora long time. He has managed toavoid themand their agents, however, for now nearly two years. To do this he was compelled to bring into play every faculty of his versatile nature, and his suc- cess has been the wonderment of the police all over the country. Forrester, during this period of time, has travelled over almost the entire South, and has only been once arrested from the date of the murder of Mr. Nathan ap to his capture in Washington on Saturday last. His being taken in that city is due principally to the activity of Superintendent Richards, of the Washington police force, who became aware, through the ordinary channels of police intorma- tion, that an unusually clever operator with the ‘jimmy” was in that city. Superintendent Rich- ards instructed his chief of detectives, J. W. Clair- voe, to put all his men on the watch and find out, If possible, who the man was that was reported to beim the vicinity. Oaptain Clairvoe detailed OM- cers G. M. McElfresh and Miller to do the work, and, giving them the two opposite ends of the city to look after, he took the centre or principal part himself. After some two or three days’ laboring upon very meagre intelli- gence, Captain Clairvoe became convinced he had to do witna more than ordinary individual. He unearthed sufficient of the movements of the man to warrant him in making a report to Superinten- dent Richards, and that officer then advised Detec- tive Ciairvoe to give his attention more to the sub- urbs of the city than the town itself, as it was likely the man would choose some of the country resl- dences outside in preference to the business houses within the limits of the town. In obedience to these instructions Detective Clairvoe made an excursion on Wednesday night last into the country in the direction of Georgetown. As he went along THE ROAD AFTER MIDNIGHT he noticed something pecuilar in the neighborhood of a gentleman’s residence not far out from Wash- ington, He waited for some time watching the place, and was rewarded for his patience by seeing a man leave the house and turn towards the city. The detective, who was concealed, followed ‘this man back into Washington, and to a house that he had before suspected as being the place where the man was concealed he was looking for. He kept guard upon the premises until nearly daylight, and feeling sure no one was likely to leave them after that time for some hours, he returned to Superin- tendent Richards and related to him what he had witnessed. The Superintendent immediately posted Detective McElfresh outside the house to | watch, and then sent Detectives Clairvoe and Miller into the place to see who were there. After a rigid, but seemingly careless, examination of the house the detectives were convinced there was no one of any importance in the place, and this they reported to the Superintendent. They were instructed to go back and continue visiting the house until the somebody who was wanted should turn up. On Friday evening the much sought personage put inan appearance, The offi- cers were standing in the hallway that led through the house, when this man passed from a bedroom into the dining room of the establishment. The sudden bursting upon the scene of this important individual in the drama that was being just then enacted had such an effect upon Detective Clairvoe that he rushed down into the kitchen of the house, and any one present at the moment he entered the culinary department would have seen him | thrust his hand into one of the -breast-pockets of uis coat, pull out a photograph, examine it care. tully and would have heard a half-uttered exciama.- tion that said, “HIM SURE ENOUGH.” ‘The detective returned to his partner, who, on this occasion, was detective McElfresh, and passed out into the street, followed by the latter officer. When they had got @ safe distance from the house M fresh whispered his companion, ‘That's Forrester, it 2) “Yes, I think it fi said the other, “but we mustn’t touch him now “This is a big thing, Jack; we've got him safe,” said Mckifresh, and both then walked on in silence for some time. When they got to the office of the Snperinten- dent they found Mr. Richards in his office. A con- sultation was held, and it was decided to ascertain first whether Forrester was doing any- thing of @ serious nature in the city before arresting him. The officers be- came satisfied by Saturday morning that For. rester was simply rusticating quietly in Washington, and they determined to arrest him and send him on to Superintendent Kelso, who had offered a re- ward for his person. As Superintendent Richards had kept officers posted at the front and rear of the house, he knew that Forrester had not feft it, and about noon on Saturday he Miller to arrest lace they went at once to the back parlor. The man on post had communicated to them by where Forrester was, and they walked in. Five men were in the room at the time. Four were sitting at a table playing casino, and one of the four was Forrester. Detective McElfresh walked up to him and sald he wanted an interview outside, “Your name is Forrester, is it not?” said the oficer, “Yes; that’s the name I'm known by,’ said For- rested. “I’m ready to go with you, Mr. Mac,” he added, “and 'm ging that it was you came for me. Officers McElfresh and Miller then went out with Forrester, and the detective who was on duty watching the house up to the time of tneir arriv: but = who followed them in, brough' up the rear, with the man whose move- ments had ven the first clue to the whereabouts of Forroster. This man, who seemed to be a foreigner, completely broke down when he understood he was under arrest, and the detective had great diticulty for some time in Betting him to move along. At about twenty-five minutes to one o'clock the prisoners were taken into the Police Headquarters, where they were received by Su- rintendent Richards and his Chief of Detectives, airval. Forrester was inno way concerned about his arrest, but on the contrary bore himself like a man who had suddenly flung from him a heavy en- cumbrance, He talked freely with the Superin- tendent and Captain of Detectives, and his easy style and careless manner showed plainly he was not embarrassed about the capture. His com- pene on the contrary, was _terri- ly htened, and shivered and shook with a horrible dread of the prison cell. When Forrester was asked about nim the instantancous answer ‘was :— “4 don’t know the man,’ This evidently was a great relief to the other, for he became more calm, and began for the first time since his arrest to look the situation clearly in the face, He was locked up, however, and will be held, no doubt, for an attempt at burglary. Forrester ‘was searched after the removal ofthe other prison- ers, but nothing of any importance was found upon him. He was almost completely out of money and no weapons of any kind were found about bim, Superintendent Richards allowed him to sit for some hours in his room talking to the detectives, and then he was removed to a cell in the rear of the Police Headquarters. ‘This cell ts on the ground floor of the building, and is rather a primitive contrivance. There are two large iron net-work doors, both of which are fastened by locks to an iron beam that stands in the centre, The pieces of iron tiat make the net work of the doors are flat and broad, and not bars, as in most other prisons, The cell, although a rudely con- structed affair, is thoroughly secure, and there is plenty of room inside for tne prisoners to move about, an advantage not generally granted to them, An officer was place outside the cell in the hallway to watch Forrester, as the gentieman’s pecullarities tor contriving brig were well known to the Super- intendent of lice, and every precaution was taken to guard against his getting away. In the course of the evening he expressed a wish to be allowed to stroll up and down the hall, and when Superintendent Richards was asked if ne would int him this permission, he desired the officers ‘0 take Forrester into thelr own room and let him ass the evening there if he felt inclined. Forres- Tr was then taken out of the cell and given the quvilege of the detectives’ room, where he spent he evening chatting freely with the officers. Of course there were always sufficient men in the room to prevent him from Rotting. off, but he never for a moment manifested any desire to escape, and although the detectives watched him narrowly, they appeared to place the utmost confi- dence in him. en Forrester was ey. locked in the cell and the police felt satisfied he Was secure, Superintendent Richards tele; hed the news of his arrest to Superintendent Kelso. This official bei ng, out of town Captain Irving was sent for and the despatch was handed to him to reply to and act upon. He went in search of Detective Farley and found him at midnight, and it was then de- cided between these officers that Farley should goon to Washington and bring back the prisoner. An answer was sent to Superintendent Richards ee | what had been done, and that officer replied that ne was perfectly satisfiea, The appearance of Captain Irving at Police Head- quarters at so late an hour on Saturday night CAUSED CONSIDERABLE EXCITEMENT, and when he was understood to be looking for De- tective Farley it was immediately concluded some- thing important had taken place. The officers maintained the strictest secrecy, and no clue to what was going on could possibly be obtaincd. On Sunday morning the whole thing was revealed by the publication of the arrest of Forrester, and then the cause of the mystery of the previous night was fully understood. The excitement, however, started by the captain’s late visit to headquarters only grew in intensity when the in- télligence of the capture was received, It had been extensively spread all over the country that Forrester was wanted by the New York police for something in reference to the Nathan murder; but whether he was the man who was supposed to have committed the deed or was merely wanted for some matter in connection with it people of course could not tell. The tm- pression in the public mind has been for a long time that the police were looking for Forrester in con- nection with the murder itself; but few pecple be- lieved they had any evidence that would at all bring the crime home to him, These doubts in the public mind made the excitement caused by the an- nouncement of his arrest still more intense, and there is every reason to belleve it will continue until some formal examination or trial is held in the matter. The police themselves do not pretend they have any evidence directly bearing upon Forrester as the man who killed Mr. Nathan; but ey do claim they have testimony of a nature to justify them in arresting him and putting him on trial for the deed. What the value of the evidence is can only be decided at atrial, For the present the police are the sole judges of its importance. Detective Farley was chosen to go on to Washington because he had been intimately connected with the case since the unfortunate occurrence took place, and he is an officer of tact and management. He started from New York on Sunday night by the half-past nine o'clock train and arrived in Washington the following morning short: after half-past six o'clock. He presented himself at the detective office about half an hour after his arrival, and informed the officer in charge of his get and the nature of his business. Detective McEl- fresh, who had been up a portion of the night with Forrester and was at the moment sitting in the hallway outside the cell, was called to receive De- tective Farley, and both officers then went back to where the prisoner was confined. When the detec- tives arrived in front of the cell Forrester was sit- ting on a low seat inside, but at sight of OMcer Farley he stood up and put his face to one of the diamond-shaped openings of the door. Both the offi- cer and the prisoner smiled. When they were opposite each other and Mr. Farley got upto the cell door the following conversation took place :— Well, do you know me ?’” es, 1 guess I do,” answered Forrester. it’s a long time since I saw you.” “Yes, pretty time. How have you been, Phil ? You look well; you don’t seem to change any." “I went down South tosee you some time ago, Billy, but I missed you.” “Yes, I know you did; but that was no fault of yours. How’s Jack McVord +" “He’s not been very well lately ; somewhat under | the weather.” “How long have you been in Washington?” “Oh, ten or tweive days, I guess.” “Now, that I see you in the light, you don't look very well; you're rather white and thin.” “[ve had pretty good cause to look shaken. I was laid up three months sick at Petersburg, Va., and I’m only just beginning to get around.” “What was the matter ?”' Wi 2d cold somehow and it settled in my bones, and I wound up by getting paralyzed in the arm. I'm all right now, though.” “I see you've got a lump there under your eye. What's that?" “A mosquito bit me there and I rubbed It, and I suppose I poisoned It, and it swelled out to the size 13 see. I must have it looked aiter, or 'm afraid I shall lose the eye." “Where's the old woman now ?” “She's down South, somewhere.” “Billy, I'd like to ask you something about that New Orleans business; there’s one or two things in | it 1 don’t understand, and I'd like you to explain to me.” “All right, I'll tell you anything that I know about ““What was Connors’ idea in getting us down | there ?”” “It wasn't Connors brought you down, it was Baker.” “Yes, of course, Baker, but acting for Connors, he was the man *”’ “Well, 1 suppose he wanted to get money out of you.?? 7 “Don't you think he would have given you to Pr) “Well, I don't know about that, Me wouldn't | iven me away in his own house, and that's was, He might have given me away at ut that wouldn't have been of any use to vould have got away from you.”’ reely, | think, if once I got hold of you, There'd be a scramble for ttanyhow. I think iff had seen you, Billy, I'd have brought you home."” “No, you couldn’t, and I'll tell you why. If you'd come to my den, or you were brought there, it would be a put up job, and I'd know all about it; as it was, I knew you were in town the very night you gotthere. When you would come to me I'd be prepared for you, and what chance would you have of taking me, coming there under the impression that I knew nothing at all about you, when in reality 1 was well posted for von? You might have come there any night and f wouldn't have given a snap for you. I had more ways of getting out of that crib-than anybody knew about, and it wwould have been a pretty tough job to collar me in Tt.” “Well, if you got out | suppose you'd get away in abuggy!” “No, I wouldn't. I'd get out and get off on horseback. I'd bea mile and a half away before you ever knew I'd ieft the place.”’ “You were in town ail the time we were there, weren't you, Billy ” “Yes, [ was, and never stirred out of it.” “Were you ying at Connors’? Ob, never mind, I didn’t mean to ask you that. “Oh, 1 don't mind telling you, Phil. 1 was there a portion of the time, and I was around a bit, too.” “Well, suppose we'd got into Connors’ that night, what would you have done?” “I don't know; it depends upon circumstances, t | more or New Orleans. Of course you wouldn't blame @ man for trying to getaway. ‘If you had got me In that house I would tht place. There were only iow could irom the the front window or %k yard; and, if you haa the jouse surrounded, as, Of course, any Officer like you would, what chance should I’ have of getting away from yout” + PROS “Suppose you met me going up the stars for you, we'd very iikely have a tussel for it?” “No, il, 1 wouldn’t do that with you. I'd es- cape if I could, but not that way; I never hurt a man yet, and I never will.” “Did you see me while I was tn town?” “No, I never laid my eyeson you. I saw Radford once or twice, but I never saw you.’” “No, I thought you didn’t.” “Well, you see, I knew you were in town, and, with thirteen years hanging over my head, it isn’t very likely I'd run into your hands if I could help it, You were keeping shady, too, and doing some fine work, because you knew there were parties in town that would give you away to me; but, for all that, Thad it, Phil, and, though I didn’t go out on the promenades every afternoon, I didn’t hide myselfin a closet either.’ “Let me see. You went down to Mexico after that for a little bit, didn’t you?” “No, I didn’t; [ never was in Mexico. North a little ways.” “But you met Mullins when he came back from Peru, didn’t you ?” “Yes, I did; we were together for a while after.” “How was that? Did you leave New Orleans be- fore I did?’ “I don’t remember about that exactly; I think, though, I went away a day before you, i really forget. About that time I was in @ od deal of trouble and Connors was bother- about hia work with you. tt hold of your trarney but you it, and I was frightened that Be, might hand me over. You know how.diMoult it for & man like me to trust anybody. You played some sharp points on the old man down there; but he wanted the money, and nothing else would do, You sent to New York to get some “queer” bills for him. It was a good dodge and came near taking. (Here the oficer laughed heartily.) Then you tried the eran dodge on him, but that was nogo either, You see Connors made up his mind to one thing and he stuck to itethat was to get the money.” You left New Orleans the night before me, you gay; then you must have gone on a Monday night, for Lieft Tuesday.” “We were fos across the river the night be- fore in a small boat; but it began to. blow a gale of wind and the water was too rough; we could not getover. It Cu down in the morning and we got across, We puabod on to the first landing, then walked twenty-five miles up the country and ycuna up at Natchez, where we tooka few days’ rest.’ “You were in Memphis that time I got down there, were you not? ‘That cabman gave it to you that time, and you went oif.”” “Yes; he gave it to me, and of course I didn’t wait to see you.” hohe down South again, didn’t you, from ere’ “Hold on, now; I'll tell you the next I heard of you. It was in Baltimore.” “No; I didn’t go to Baltimore; I was round there in Baton Rouge and those places for a while. I waa in Mobile for a bit, and then I guess I got on again to Memphis,” “You were focked up there, weren't you?” “No, [ was not. I was only locked up once since I left New York, and that was in a diferent place altogether. I know who you mean, though.” “Oh! Jacob, was it?” “Yes, I guess it was, It wasin Memphis I first heard of this charge against me.” “Ohl come, that won’t do. You heard of it in Philadelphia long before that.’” “No, didn’t, I never heard of this charge until I was in Memphis, and it was Tim handed me a slip out of the New YORK HERALD. It was in the paper, with deacription, reward and all.” “Now, I tell you you’re none You heard it be- fore that. You knew of it in Philadelphia; or if you didn’t, you knew ol it from there pretty soon after. You heard of it by letter. Mary used to write, didn’t she? You know whom I mean?” “Yes, that’s so; she used; but she never men- tioned anything about this.” “Oh, yes; she did. Come now, you know all about it.” “No; a8 well as I can remember the first I heard of this was in Memphis, when that slip out of the New YoRK HERALD was put in my hand.” onne hired rooms in a hotel in Baltimore, didn’t uf “No, never."” “Yes, you did; yes, youdid. You sent word up to a hotel to have rooms kept for you, as you were coming on im a day or two, andIhad the very number of the rooms and was going on for you." “I don’t remember anything about that.” “You sent that message by an officer on a steam- boat from New Orleans.” “Oh, yes! [ remember now—Mr. Carter, of the steamboat Liberty.’” “That's the man.’” have been in a pretty two ways in which a house—by ju thi I went “You're right, I did send word to have rooms | kept for me; but it was only for the old woman. I was going to send her on by the steamboat, but I hadn't made up my mind whether [’d go by thit same route or some other way. I didn’t half like the boat; I was afraid of the captain; but Carter was all right.” “What's become of him?” “He's left steamboating and got a farm. I don’t know how you've got hold of that thing, but I didn’t do it anyway. I changed my mind about the whole arrangement.” “What's become of Hickey?” “Oh, Lhaven’t seen him for ever so long.” “Don't know where he’s gone to, do you?” “Yes, I do, and 80 do you as well as I do.” “Billy, how did you manage to get so close into Washington here?” “Oh, I don’t know; I ain’t been myself lately since bye been sick, and this thing's been hangin; over me so long that I was careless, and I wanted to get it over any way. If it wasn’t for that thir teen years I'd have gone on long ago and got it over. A man don’t care to go and jump intoa thing like that.”” “Look here, tell me one thing now. When I was down in Memphis that time it would have been a clear case but for that cabman, wouldn't it #"” “Weill, yes, I guess it would.” “when ce fe see him? That night?” “On, I used to see him every day. He got the tip eee morning, and he gave it to me, sol went. a Guns across into Georgia, didn’t you ?”” “What became of Lake ?”” “I don’t know; last I saw of him was somewhere down in Louisville, I think. When 1 left he took my place in the party.” 4 at me see, you got arrested in Georgia, didn’t “Well, how on earth did you get hold of that? Yes, they took me up there at Savannah, but I turned over all the stuff and they let me go. That was the narrowest hole I got into since you were down in New Orleans. There’d been some heavy work going on around there for some time and they couldn’t fall upon anybody; that made ’em so mad; what with the papers pitching in and the people growling, that they were determined when they ae hold of me to give it to me. I tried one of the old tricks on them—you know what I mean—and they all got as soft as young kittens. The Mayor came to me and promised me that ii [turned over the stuff there’d be no more about it, and so did the magistrate, the Chief of Police and Governor. They all gave me their words that I should get out oi it, and so I returned the stat, They have fine Jaws in that State—yes, sir, the finest laws of any State in America. When anything like that occurs the man’s obliged to leave the State and not come back to it again. Well, sir, when they got me some fel- low there, I forget what Cag call him now, had one of those pictures of me that were sent round with a description attached to it. He showed it to me and asked me if I_knew who that was. I said, ‘Yes; that’s Billy Forrester.’ ‘You look mighty like him,’ sayshe. ‘You ain't got a good o for likenesses,’ says I, ‘or you haven't read that description very carefully.’ The Chief of Po- lice was standing there in the office, and I saw by his eye he had a suspicion of me. I knew then if dropped a trick in the game the rubber was lost, and I stuck to it. With the Chief watching me, i took the likeness out of his hand. ‘See here,’ says J, ‘that man’s thirty-five years of age 5 I ain't twenty-eight. We're about the same height and build—oh, he’s very like me; in fact we've often been taken foreach other. This man weighs 140 pounds, and I’m nearly 160 pounds. He's got black eyes, and Lhaven’t. His eyes have a wild expres- sion in them—now look at mine; there’s nothing wild in them, is there? Forrester’s got straight black bair—my hair ain't Black. Forrester’s gota | small, narrow foot, and wears a two and a half—1 wear a six. He's got a bracelet in India ink on his left wrist—look here, I've got ’em on both wrists.’ That staggered him and he said:—‘Well, it ain’t you, that’s plain; but there's a powerful resem- blance.’ ‘I know that,’ says |, ‘I've been tola that before, more than once.’ [was watching the Chief of Police all the time, and saw he was not satisfied ; he had a doubt about me still. Just about that point in the conversation the Mayor came in, and sald everything was all right; they would send me out of the State, and asked me where I would go. He said he would send me to New York or Balti. 1 knew the Chief was wal ing to hear me say where | was going to,and #1 didn’t say New York he would pounce upon me. ‘Well,’ says the Mayor, ‘where are you ing You must be off at once.’ ‘New York,’ vaya, ies ean get there straight.’ This threw the Chief off, He turned his back and walked to the other end of the room, So they put me aboard the steamer and started me away for New York. Before Lleft the Chief satd to me, ‘You are goin, straight to town, mind, no getting off.’ I promise: him I wouldn’t—that I'd go straight to town, and Iwent.” “On to New York 2” “Yes, on the steamship Magnolia; and maybe T didn’t look out for that police boat Seneca when we got to the Hook, I was frightened. The Chief oi Police at Savannah, who is the hand- somest man in the business in America, would be telegraphing on here before me, thouga he prom- ised me he wouldn’t. But we got in all right, and no Seneca after me, We came right up to the wharf and landed.” “How long did you remain in New York?" asked the representative of the H&RALD, Who was pres- ent. “About ten months.’ You must have rob ad A close?" “No, Ididn’t, I used to go around the First ward pretty freely. The two detectives down there, Doyle and Law:er, and I, had many a drink together and played many @ game of cards. Mur- en and all that gang met me frequently, I was Ving in the same house with Doyle for awhile. I don’t want te mention names; but, Phil, you know acertain Alderman who keeps several gin mills down in a certain locality and owns some houses down there ? Yes,” said Farley, “I know who you mean.” “I lived in one of his houses for nearly three months; but they're @ pretty good set of fellows down there, andi was as safe among them as I could be anywhere in the land."” “Were you down in the First ward all the time ” uptown frequently. I used to ty “Oh, no. I was stand in front of the Waverley very often. You know the place—on the corner of Broadway. I saw Jack McCord several times pass- ing along there, and several of the fellows from Headguarters around town in different places. [ saw Eustace one night at the St. Nicholas Hotel.” “Does he know you f”” “No, he don’t; but, still, I got htened of him and started. I thought it just as well to be prudent and keep out of the way.” “Did you ever see Captain Irving ?"” “No; nor I never met Phil, there, either. You deal out of town, Phil, when I was in , Weren’t yout?’ have been away a good deal,” said Far- ys “How lol 18 {¢ since you were in New York?” asked the representative of the HERALD, “Not long ago; it ain’t quite six months since I left there, “What made you leave ?” “TI was advised by some friends to fig away.” “Did you come down South again *’’ “Well, [had a kind of roving commission till I fell sick in Petersburg.” At this t Superintendent Richards entered and asked Forrester what he would like to have ee crrentte aula “Thank Maj the ‘orrester you, Major; ntle- men here are attending to me.” i er “Wouldn't you like to come out?” said the Su- erintendent. ‘You'll be able to talk to Mr. Far- ley more comfortably until your breakfast comes.” “Thank 708, Major; I would like to stretch my limbs," replied Forrester. The cell doors were opened and he was allowed to go out. ~ celle Tl shake hands with you now,’ said arley. “You could have done that before, Phil, if you'd liked; but it would not have been so convenient through the bars.’’ Just then breakfast was announced, and Forres- ter was taken to another room and Detective Far- ley left the Police Headquarters, About eleven o'clock Detective Farley had com- pleted all the arrangements necessary for the transfer of the prisoner to New York with Super- intendent Richards, and for the second time he visited Forrester at his cell. “Well, Billy,” said Farley, “how would you like to go to New York #”” “First rate; I'm ready.” “T have not got any papers for you. How are we going to arrange that ?”’ “You don’t want any papers forme, Mr. Farley. I am perfectly willing to go to New York. There is nothing there that I am afraid of, But for this thirteen years hanging over my head I would have gone on to New York long ago to answer this charge. ll, Billy, as you are willing to go we may as well start as goon as we can.” “All right, sir.’? Detective Farley then sent an officer to find the Chief of the Detective Force, Captain Clairvoe, who juickly answered the summons, and it was then Seciged to start by the very next train for New ‘ork. As Detective Clairvoe opened the door of the poll po Forrester to come out Farley said to For- rester :— “Billy, I'll have to put the irons on you.” “I expected that,” replied Forrester. ‘There you are, sir,’’ putting up his hands to be manacied. Iron bands were placed around his ankles and wrists, to which were attached long, heavy chains. He was then led out of the Police Leh hr day lifted into a carriage and driven to the rail depot. It having got abroad by some means that he was to leave Wasi ton by the one o'clock train @ large crowd collected in front of the Headquarters of Police, who were eager to catch @ glimpse of the prisoner, and who followed ‘the cal earing him to the depot. During the time that the train remained in the station until it started crowds of people kept constantly coming to the windows of the compartment in which Forrester was placed, endeavoring to get a glance at him, The e' tives, however, had taker ~ procautl 0 guard rainst this idle curiosity and the jority of the loungers were Obliged to leave the depot, their desire to see Forrester un- satisfied. In the section of the car containing the bree were seated Detectives Farley, 0e, cElfresh and the representative of the HERALD, The door of the compartment was kept shut and the windows down until the train had started and was well out of the depot. Forrester up to this time had preserved @ qui on easy manner; seemed full of confidence and did not_appear to have the slightest dread of going to New York. As soon, however, as the train had got fairly on its way he showed unmistakable signs of depression. He became nervous and uneasy, worked his fingers in his mustache and every now and again fastened his eyes upon the ceiling of the car and became lost in thought. is small, thin hands, which bore evident marks of recent illness, twisted the chains nervously, and he kept this up until_he was handed a clgar by one of the detectives. The officers were most kind and attentive to him, doing everything for his comfort, which he seemed thoroughly to understand and fully to appreciate. The train was searched through and through for a pack of cards, which the officers had forgotten to provide themselves with before starting, but none could be found, and in consequence of this omission the first two or three Tre of the journey were spent in general conver- sation. Forrester, turning to the representative of the HERALD, after lighting a second cigar, said, “Well, I’m glad this thing’s come at last. It has annoyed me for a long time and done me a great deal of injury.” “In what way has it injured you?’ “It has nearly ruined my health, by peering: me in constant dread of arrest, and it has had such an effect upon my friends and those who know me thet very few care to work with me, for fear that if I should be arrested I might think they had given me Chee for the sake of the reward.”” eke fave you foun that to be the case to any ex- nt? “IT have found it to be the case very extensively, When you come to consider the ition of a man who fears that every shadow is an officer you will not wonder at my feeling glad that the thing has come to a crisis.” “You seem to be thoroughly satisfied they can do nothing with you ?”” “Tam. I had no more to do with this Nathan affair than you did. Ican prove that. Of course I know the evidence of bad men would be no use in trying to prove an alibi; but I can show by) the records of the Courts in New Orleans an other places that I was not in New York at the time. I am a very 4 man to fasten & thing of this kind ‘good on to because my name is known all over the country, and no doubt the police must do Ge ra Satisfy the public mind that they are working the case. Mind you, I don’t say that this is 80; but it looks like that to me, knowing, as I do, they cannot connect me with it.’” “You have managed to avoid being arrested very well since it was frst rumored you were wanted for this affair.” “ve not been running away from this, but from the thirteen years; for I always knew that this thing once over { would be handed over to answer for the other.”’ ea been in the country all the time, haven't ‘ou “Certainly Lhave. All these stories they got up about me living in woods and caves are nonsense. Thave never been out of any of the large cities for any period of time.’? “There was some man arrested in Washington with you?’ “He wasn’t exactly arrestea with me, but some- how through me. They can’t do anything with him, for he has done nothing. He is a Danish doctor, a highly educated man, but has been in poor circum- stances for a long time, and fell across my path in some Way or other. I don’t want to say anythin, about that poor fellow, for I can’t do him any goo and I might cause him some harm.”’ “Have you any witnesses to prove you were not in New York at the time of the Nathan affair, be- sides the records of the courts?” “Yes, [have three women and two men that will fully prove all I want and who will bear out what I say about this affair. How is the feeling in New York now about this thing? Do you think the peo- ple really believe I did it?” “No, Ido not. I think there is a great deal of doubt in the public mind about the stories in circu- lation accusing you of the crime."’ “What do you think about Stokes? Will they be likely to hurt him after the secona trial?” “It ig a very dificult thing to say.’’ “Foster is in the Tombs yet? hey haven't done anything in his case yet, have they ?” “No, they have not.’’ “I don’t think he ever meant to kill that man; but I believe this fellow, Dr. Schoeppe, who was ac- quitted the other day, is guilty. understand he is for the fortune now,” Forrester suddenly broke off the conversation at this point and lounged back in his seat, and re- mained perfectly quict, thinking Renin for fully halfan hour, He then got into talking with De- tective Farley about the police in the different cities throughout the country and he showed a thorough knowledge of the character and capabili- ties of every man in position on the police in America. A pack of cards was procured at one of the stations en route and a game of casino started. Forrester flung back his coat frem his shoulders, and, with the chains hanging from his hands, dealt the cards with the ease of an adept. 0 For a couple of hours the game was ke’ rester proving by his playing that he of casino. inner hour having arrived one of the party procured a couple of chickens and & quantity of bam and bread. For- rester ate very little, but his companions in the car disposed of all the viands purchased, and after a reiresher of Cognac and ice water the arty settled down again to a discussion of casino. The bad play of one of the officers amused Forrester very much, and he laughed heartily at each mis- take made by his opponent. The constant efforts made by the people at the various stations along the route to get a look at him whenever the train stopped baat ha him very much, and he fre- juently asked the officers to close the door and shut the blinds to screen him from the public gaze. The intelligence that he was on the train had got ahead on the road by some means, and crowds of people gathered at aimost every depot passed to geta all the people who ached the mgr 4 at these two Fortunately, however, hing of the kind was attem| , and those two stations we without ha binging up. tte New York bi uy cards, an great of attention the different accounts of his Grrest. He expressed his ion freely upon each, — when he nad ‘falshed gata, | blag ees) har the when I get chance, earned. x rine the more ‘from them worl of the police in the coun than than any other source could bly furni: The New York men rh beat the whole of them, and Texpect they very often astonish the police them. The representative of the HERALD suggested faye egg of his own life would be an interest- ester said, “I never sought notoriety and I don't want it now. The newspapers have been constantly misre; nting me, and if any of their men come to me in New York I will insult them.”’ A fresh cigar and 4 tilt at the brandy bottle of cooled his anger ae the newspapers for a sie, 008 he retu: to his former quiet and easy “Do you remember,” he sald to Detective Farley, jmy Pennsylvania aimeulty tn the row about “Yea, I do,” sald the officer, “ ily well.” “I saw something about fn one of the papers the other day, They treated me shabbily in t matter. ok my money, promived to give me Soete ter ee the city, and then as soon as I had ito the street they arrested me in.” “That was down South,’ said Detective "vOe. “Yes,"’ said Forrester sarcastically, ‘they are very distinguished lot of men down there. Not one of them would take @ dollar. Farley,” he said, turning to that officer, “Iheard some of the Nathan ‘were at police fee gl) on Sunday mo » Did Pee see any of them ?’ “I underat they were there’! “Old Mr. Salomon, Mrs, Nathan’s cousin, called on me in Washington, We had along talk. 1 think he must have remained two hours with me.” “They treated you well in Washington ?” said the representative of the HERALD. ‘They did indeed, and I shall not forget their kindness, if it ever comes in my way to serve any ofthem. The Major is a considerate gentleman and a good officer. J there (pointing to De- tective Olairvoe), I have known a long time.” ‘We did all we could to make you comfortable, Billy, and you didn’t seem to feel the time either,” “No, you're tight, I did not; and I can tell you one thing, although a may be inclined to doubt ft. You might have left me sitting at an open window alone in that house of yours and I would not have stirred @ foot. At ene time during the evening you ar- rested me I could have ees out the window and, perhaps, got away; but I did not attempt it, and would not while { was in your hands.” rn ing to the representative of the HERALD he said, “You have not been on the know ‘Mac,’ he is the ‘ded President Lincoln during was at the White House. He has lots of friends and some of them are among the it men in the country.” As train mepreschnns Jersey City the detec- tives yn to make p! tions for leaving the carriage, and Forrester asked Detective Farley if he could not do something to cover up the trinkets attached to icer Olairvoe took a lal linen duster, wrapped it round him and buttoned it down in front, so as to completely conceal the irons, This attention pleased Forrester very much and he thanked the officer. A short dis- tance out from Jersey City Captain Irving jumped on the car, and, going into the compartment with the other officers, took his seat beside Forrester. He was taken from the train ina close carriage, and fifteen minutes after he was locked up at Police Headquarters, where he is now waiting a disposi- tion in his case. Detectives Clairvoe and McElfresh will in all probability remain in town until a pre- liminary examination is held, as their evidence will likely be wanted. PROSPECT PARK FAIR GROUNDS. ——_+____. Two Trotting Contests—Seven Heats and @ Postponement, Two trotting races were announced to come off at Prospect Park Fair Grounds yesterday afternoon, the first being between horses that had never beaten 2:45 and the second for horses that had never trotted faster in @ race than 2:35. In the first race there were four entries and three starters. The fourth horse being lame when brought on the track for the race, was permitted to be withdrawn, The horses that started were Mr. Denton’s bay mare Scotland Maid, J. Campbell’s brown mare Carrie White, J. H. Phillips’ bay mare Fanny Osborne and H. W. Howe's brown mare Ida Fulton. Scotland Maid was the favorite over the field. She won the race in three straight heats, the last one being given to her by the drivers of the other horses, Phillips’ and Campbell's, who waited for Scotland Maid when she was @ distance behind them until she could come up and win the heat. The judges should not have suffered such @ flagrant wrong as this to have passed unpunished, and should have protected all parties who were betting on Phillips’ and Camp- bell’s mares, It was the duty of the judges to have declared the heat null and void at least, and put other drivers behind the mares and had the race fairly settled. There seems to be a prevailing dis- Position on the part of drivers to trot their horses for second money only, where a record will not be given them, while others depend on the pool box to regulate their winning and losing tactics, and without the proprietors of trotting tracks use more stringent measures with these scamps the public will sooner or later become disgusted with the trickery and keep away from the trotting tracks altogether. The next Trotting Convention must make a rule to give every horse a record that wins & prize, and that will improve things considerably; but the stronger measures will have to be resorted to of ruling off the track of both man and horse in all cases where “pulling” is practised. The second race had four starters. These were the Diack stallion W. H. Ripley, sorrel mare Lady Shot- well, black mare Eveline and chestnut gelding Nor- wood. Four heats were trotted, when darkness set in and the race had to be postponed until this afternoon at half-past one o'clock. Ripley was the favorite before the start at one hundred to forty over the fleld, and he sold at that odds after the first heat, which was won by Lady Shotwell. The latter won the second heat, and then she became the favorite forone heat only. The stallion, after winning the third heat, resumed his previously high position in the betting, and was a higher fa- vorite when the race was postponed. The track was in most excellent condition, not- withstanding the heavy rain of the day before, and the time made was for the class of horses en- gaged. The attendance was rather small for the quality of the sport offered. The following are the details of the trotting as it progressed :— THE FIRST TROT. First Heat.—Ida Fulton won the pole, ened Tic Maid second place, Fanny Osborne third, ‘White outside. ey scored half a dozen times fore they came up informto get the word. Id Fulton had a trifle the best of it, Scotland Maid sec- ond, Fanny Osborne third, Carrie White fourth. Ida Fulton then broke and fell all to pieces, and that was the last of her. Scotland Maid then went to the front and led two lengths to the quarter pole, in forty-six seconds, Fanny Osborne second, three lengths ahead of Carrie White, who was a dozen lengths in front of Ida Fulton. Scotland Maid trotted steadily along the backstretch, and was three lengths in front of Fanny Osborne at the half- mile pole, in 1:20, the latter peut four lengths ahead of Carrie White, who was one hundred yards ahead of Ida Fulton. Going along the lower turn Fanny Osborne broke up and Carrie White overtook pbc her at the three-quarter pole. Scotland Maid then came on steadily and won the heat oy four lengths, Carrie White second, ten lengths ahe: of Fanny Osborne, Ida Fulton distanced. Time, 236%. Second Heat.—Scotiand Maid was the favorite at 3 to 1 before the first heat, but now 10 to 1 wanted takers, Fanny Osborne had the best of the send-off, Scotland Maid second, Carrie White third. Fanny Osborne led two lengths around the turn, Scotland Maia second, Carrie White third, At the quarter pole, which was passed in forty seconds, Fanny Os- orne led two lengths, Scotland Maid second, Carrie White two lengtl ther off. Going along the backstretch Scotland Maid shut up the daylight, and at the half-mile pole Fanny led one length, in 1:20. Carrie White was two lengths behind. Going down the lower stretch to the Ce ert pole Scotland Maid took sides with bond borne aad they passed the pole head and head, Carrie White two lengths behind. The latter then made @ splen- did burst of speed, passed Fanny Osborne at the distance stand, and was beaten. the heat by a neck and shoulders only by Scotland Maid, in 2:36. Fanny Usvorne was three lengths behind. Third Heat.—Fanny Osborne had & good lead, Scotiand Maid second, Carrie White outside. Scot- land Maid broke up badly on the tura, and Fanny Osborne led to the quarter pale in forty seconds and a half, four lengths ahead of Carrie White, who was eighty yards in front of Scotland Maid. Going alon, the backstretch Carrie White stopped and waite until scotland Maid had passed her, which she did 100 yards before reaching the half-mile pole. Fanny Osborne algo held up, as she was forty-five seconds in doing the second quarter, and many who were looking closely at this shameful sharp practice con- demned it in rather strong language. Fanny Osborne then ran enough to lose the heat anyhow; but at the three-quarter pole Scotland Maid yoke her, and after @ very nice piece of handiwork Scot- land Maid won the heat by neck in 2:43. Carrie White won second money. The following is a SUMMARY. Prosrgct PARE Falk GROUNDS, September 10.— First Heat.. Second Heat Third Heat.. fox aus 1s 2x Firs ont Tis so —There was @ good de: fore the word was given. Norwood had the best of the start, faay Shotwell second, ley third, Eve- line fourth. ey trotted around Toa in this order, and as they passed the quarter pole Shotwell led one length in thirty-seven seconds, Norwood second, two on {n front of Ripley, who was four lengths ahead of Eveline, the latter hav- ing broken up badly. Lady Shotwell opened » wide gap along the backstretch and was four lengths in front of Ripley at the Pole, in 1:17, She opened the gap on the lower stretoh: but broke up as she approached the three-quartee pole, where she was three lengths in front of the Stallion, the others not in the race, Lady Sho! well held her own up the homestretch unt she passed the distance stand, when she broke up and the stallion closed rapi on her. She re- covered, however, in time to pass in under the string a winner by a lengt! ipley second, tem lengths in front of Eveline, who was two lengths in front of Norwood. Time of the heat, 32%. Second Heat,—Norwood had the best of send- off, Eveline second, Shotwell third, Ripley fourth. kin § all broke except ley and when they reached the quarter-pole hotwell was one length ahead of the stallion, who was half a length front of Eveline, the latter being two lengths in advance of Norwood. Eveline and Nor- ‘wood both broke up on the backstretch. At the half mile pole Lady Shotwell led a neck in 1:18: Ripley second, six lengths in front Eveline, who was four lengths ahead of Norwood, Going down the lower stretch Sipe: and ‘gas Shotwell were yoked for two hundre yards, when sey broke up and the mare opened @ gap of eight lengths to the three-quarter pole. ‘The stallion, as soon as he recovered, came with a rush and closed the Savile’ at every stride until at the stand Lady Shotwell only beat him a neck. Eveline was eight lengths behind, a neck ahead of Norwood. Time of the heat,’ a Third Heat.—Norwood was first away, Eveline second, Lady Shotwell third, Ripley fourth. At the quarter pole Norwood led one length, Ripley sec- ond, two lengths in front of Eveline, who was four lengths in advance of Lady Shotwell, who was evidently laying up, a3 she was too far be- hind to risk a struggle for the heat, She had been cut off on the turn by Ripley, and had to pull up. The quarter was made in thirty-nine seconds. Going along the backstretch Norwood managed to keop in front on the hop, skip and jump principle, and at the half-mile pole he had his head in front im 1:17, He broke up several times on the lower tech, but he could not retain the lead any longer. The black horse passed him, and led to the three-quarter pole two iengths, Norwood one length in front of Eveline, who was eight lengths shead of Lady Shotwell. Ripley then came on steadily, and won the heat by two lengths, Nor- wood second, two lengths in advance of Eveline, who was six lengths ahead of Lady Shotwell. Time, ee was placed last for running. Norwoo Preeey ieag Shotwell was first away, Norwood second, Eveline third, Ripley fourti Going around the turn dace, Shotwell maintained the lead, Ripley second, and these two went yoked to the quarter ‘pole in thirty-seven seconds, tem lengths ahead of Eveline, who was one length in advance of Norwood. Ripley beat Shotwell to the half-mile pole three lengths, in 1:16%. He was five lengths ahead ofher at the three-quarter pole, but she then rallied and made a very fine but ‘unsuccessful struggle at the finish, Ripley winning the heat by alength, Lady Shotwell second, one length in front of Eveline, who was four lengths ahead of Norwood, Time, 2:3534. ‘The race was then postponed on account of dark- ness, to this afternoon, at half-past one o'clock. The follo 19 @ 0 gues 8" SUMMARY. SIME Day.—Purse $125, for horses that have LAE beaten 2:35; mile heats, best three in five, ness. J, H, Phillips’ bik. 8. W. H. Ripley. H. BH. Eck’s s, m. Lady Shotwell. W. Thorne’s bik. m. Eveline. John Trent’s ch. g. Norwood Fourth heat. TROTTING AT FLEETWOOD PARK. Two trots were announced to take place at Fleet- wood yesterday, these being sweepstakes of $400 and $300, in which there were respectively five and ‘four entries. Quite s large number of persons gathered to witness these contests, among them being a fair percentage of betting men; but itis safe to say that both events were very unsatisfac- tory to the majority present, and there were but few who hesitated in expressing themselves freely upon the subject. The association vindicated them- selves and protected the public in a handsome manner in the first race, after many complaints had been made of dishonesty, by declaring the event and ail outside bets off, which was hailed with great applause. The sweepstakes of $400 had five entries—Wm. Lovell’s bay mare Lady Lovell, J. Walker's sorre} gelding Jack, T. Ogle’s bay mare White Heels, Robert Anderson’s bay stallion Grantum Chiet, and Frederick Lounds’ bay mare Butcher Girl. Of these four came to the score, Jack being withdrawn. White Heels won the first heat, then Grantum Chief and she trotted a dead heat, and the third and fourth were won by Grantum Chief, who had been the favorite in tne pools. At the end of the fourth heat a well-known pen kerian appealed to the judges, Messrs. Van Sice and Briggs, for ‘ged tection, assert! that White Heels could trot as low as 2:45, and he knew it, and ‘would bet $500 to $250" that even he at that moment ‘could drive her around the track in that time.” Then the toy bay consulted together, when Mr. Van Sice made the following announcement :— Gentlemen, this race was for owners to drive ; but there having been complaints made to us we asked the driver of White Heels to allow us to put a profesional behind her, and,'as he objected to, this, to. protect ourselves and the outside public against frauds we declare the race and off The second event, announced as a sweepstakes of $300, but afterwards ascertained to be for @ jockey cap only, had four entries—Harry Selden’s bay ene Dunderbergh, J. Piper's ly Weaver, M. McNamara’s gray gelding Gray Squirrel and William Stegmar’s bay mare Nelly, After the first heat, won by Lady Weaver, the Pico) threat- ened to remove the driver of Dunderbergh, as it was epparens he did not attempt to win the heat; but they allowed him to drive the second heat, however, when his horse distanced the fleld. The ret reg are summaries of the day’s unsatisfactory work :— FLEETWOOD PARK, MORRISANIA, N. Y., SEPTEMBER 10, 1872.—Sweepstakes $400; mile heats, best three in five, in harness; owners to drive, Robert Anderson entered 201 1 decdom. Grantum Chief. 10 2 2 dec’d of. T.. le entered Heels William Lady Lovei 3 dis, Fred, Lounds entered b. m. Butcher Girl.......... 4 dis. J. Walker entered 8. g. Jack.. dr. TIME. First heat... 2:56 Second heat 2:51 Third heat. 2:54 Same Day—Sweepstakes $300 harness. Harry Selden entered b. g. Dunderbergh... 2 1 J. Piper entered b. m. Lady Weaver......... 1 dis, M. McNamara entered g. g. Gray Squ' 3 dis. Wm. Stegman entered b. m. Nelly. 4 dis. Hay. = Mile. First heat. 1:30 3:08 Second heat. 1:28 2:56 AMERICAN DIPLOMATISTS ABROAD, For What Are They Paid, to Assist or Insult Their Countrymen? To Tne Epiror OF THE HERALD :— SIR—Will you allow me, through your columns, to express astonishment at the way in which Amer- ican diplomatists treat their fellow citizens abroad ? A little time ago an American gentleman and myself fell victims to a bratal outrage on the part of the Berlin police. I at once notified the occur- rence at the English Embassy, was received witn every possible courtesy and was assured of the ac- tive interference of the Ambassador in my behalf. I then accompanied my friend to the American Le- gation. Mr. Bancroft was of course too much oc- cupted to see any one under the ramk of Senator. We were, however, ushered into the presence of the Secretary of Legation, This gentleman had the extreme ill taste neither to rise at our entrance nor to offer us seats, nor even to vouchsafe us the sight of his full face. My friend was permitted a confidential interview with his right whisker, while I was allowed to say what 1 had to say to tho back ofhis head, At the end of the interview neither gare was expressed nor the ald of the Lega- tion proffered. The whole thing strock me with such astonish- ment that I determined 'o write to you on the sab- ject. That I should be so treated did not astonish me. Iwasa “Britisher.’ But that an American citizen should meet with such a reception was am entirely new experience to me. I could not help asking myself, Of what use are Embassies when they not only decline to render any assistance to the citizens of the country they represent, but receive them to boot witt carefully studied insolence ? Lam, sir, faithfully yours, 4. EUBERLE EVANS, B. A. Oxon, ‘Author of the “Bond of Honor," #0, OxronD UNION CLUB, August 28, 1872,