The New York Herald Newspaper, October 3, 1871, Page 7

~ Fobberies oi. Tammany, but refuse ywerfal infimence tn Politics, and as he ts to lead e delegauen from this city te the Convention next week his views about WHAT MAY ITAPPEN and what he and the 10,000 voters at his back think ‘ought to be done at the Convention will be of ex- ceeding interest lo every democrat in the State. Judge Comstock is so well known to all New York- ers, and has such an extended reputation through: out the State as a leading light in the party, that I need only mention his name, without going into details about his services to tne party In the past or the stroilg hold he has upon the affections of all persons of both parties west of. the metropolis. Geueral Green is a tall, soldierly-looking: man, with @ 100k of determination about him that promises no gentle treatment of Tammany at his hands at the Convention, should she undertake to kick against the pricks, “Weil, str,” said he, in answer to one of my ques- tions, ‘the people in the country are determined that Tammany ‘ , MUST TAKE A BACK SEAT ‘at the Convention, if she gets any at all, and if she wont take a back seat of ner own accord we will compel her to do so; and if we have todo that you an depend upon it ehe will be roughly handied, ‘The country democrats are in no moo@ to be tried with. They are, as a party, honest to the backbone, and will Waye nothing to do with men who have made their fortunes out of the people’s money with- out working honestly for it, I know those men gown in New York like a book, aud the country G@emocrats have got their eyes opened so lately that they will hereafter make no mistakes about their | identity. It is only a few years ago—seven or eight, Ivhink—that I remember Dick Connolly stood in front of Crook & Dut’s restaurant in New York and dido’t have money ENOUGH TO PAY FOR DRINKS _ for asmail party that were with him. Yethe and the others since then count their wealth by mil- hons, and do you suppose the people tn the country can be made to believe that thev made it all hon- estly? Nota bit of it, They believe the charges to be true that have been made against them, and all | the talk from now till doomsday will not be able to shake that belief, And why anould it, I’d like to know?’ For (ue last two years or so Tammany has assumed to control the conventions, but she will mot do it this time. I don’t think’ she dare attempt Mt, and if those men do they will be buried so deep | that you and 1 and a generation to come, for that matter, will uot live long chough to hear of them “Do you think she will get into the Convention as ® celegationr” “1 doubt 1t very mucn, THE TEMPSR OF THE COUNTRY DELEGATES Issuch that they will care very litle what they do with her, The best thing for the mep who have here- tolore represented her would be to stay at home and got dare to suow their faces at the Convention or any ways near it; and if a delegauon under the Bame of Tammany should come ap it must not be luke that which we have been accustomed to of late Years, even if it wants to be weaied with the com- Monest kind of courtesy. What I mean is the class ef ‘rounders’ who have been thrust upon us from yeat to year, and in speaking avout tnum as I do I pone of what { know; for 1 used to live in New ork, and | know as well as any man there to-day what is and what is not the respectable part of the party. You should Know, sir, that the democratic of the country 18 a thoroughly honest one in every respect, It is composed of men who vote the democratic ticket from conviction, not because they driven into its ranks uuder the whip and spuc anybody who CONTROLS THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER, or pulled into it by the attraction of being well paid for thelr votes, Nothing of the kind. ny person who has an idea that the country democrats are not Gemocrats through principle, that and nothing else, knows nothing avout Mt. This being the case, is 1b ‘to be wondeved at that ihey not. ouly denounce the ostuvely to asso- tlate with her ou any conditious; that they decline to have the sligut est comimunication ‘with the men ‘who claim to be licr leaders, and who, in their eyes, are branded as men who have . STOLEN THEIR WAY TO WEALTH and power? ‘The only thing to be wondered at is tat the country people nave been so loug bilnded to What these men really were, aud that they have filowed them in times past an apparent control Uhat tucy, 11 point of fact, never possessed. 1 is Bigh time that thor career was put an end to. They have carried things on with a high Rand in the metropolis, and they were of late seck- tag to reign over the State in the way they were wont to over the city of New York. They bad become too ambitious. They have overieaped ihcem: velves, and the resuit has beea disastrous to the. Belves, us itis just ilatit should be. They bave en- deavored to climb and make use of the good name Oi the democratic party to puil themselves up; but | * the guilt of the trauds perpetrated in New York at- faches to them, anu not to the democratic party. I know that au eifort has been made by our oppo- nents to ARBAY THE PEOPLE against us On the strength of the conduct of these mien; UULit will fail, Jor the democratic party, in ite Convention, Will show the peopie that they will have nothing to do with them m any shape or form, und will denounce them so sirougiy that no charge of ambiguity can weaken the force of the denuncia- fon. For myself i cannot imagine how any good femocrat will vole in the Convention to take these fellows into their company, and, what's more, [ fon’t vk you will flud a delegate, when it comes w the scratch, who won't become exceedingly in- ore about any delegation Tammany may send. batever men she sends, i she has the presumption te send any body, must be abie to sliow beyond all feasonable doubt, that tuey, 10 the first place, DO NOT SUSTAEN THE ‘RING,’ and, secondly, and, above ail, that they were fairly siected and actnally represent the majority of dem- Deratic voters m the city.” “She mugut send & good delegation, composed of men of high character,” “she might, but the chances are against her being able t do so. There 19 no use of disguising tue fact—and every country democrat is determined to bring the consummation about—inat Tammauy, as ® power in tle party, 18 doomed. She will never again have @ voice in the councils of the party that Will be listened to, and when I say ‘ammany I mean the meu who now are at the head of the ‘ma- chine,’ us it 3 called, What may be done by other en im the future under the name of Brel better ‘imany t kiow pot, bi suikes me that tuere feitimany Bgt, bub a strih nant van be bi ew 20. Kies FEW MONEST MEN IN THE STATE wnéd won't be willing, if they want to act a good part in the party aud for the party, to take up wih most any other name than that which is new a scoif and a sneer with everybody.’ “The Governor Sseins t0 be very silent about the hubbuo in New York, Generai?” “He 1s silent, and so well he might be. ~He isa gone man, enti d dead forail time, 1 don’t want you to think nave any suspicion of we Governor's honesty as fur as the swindies of Tam. Many are concecuedt, but he cannot escape the Oblivion whicu 1s sure to envelope his masters,” asters, General ¢”? “Yes, sir, masters, There is no doubt about ft that Governor Hofman was under the control of the Ring; that is, © a bili passed the Leuislature which tlicy Wanted signed, no matter how viilan- ous a thing it w: ne had to sigait. I need not wpecify lustunces. lave Reard that he had often endeavored to BREAK THE CHAINS WHICH BOUND HIM, ‘put that he iound the shackles too stroug and had im the end to succutab to the Men who nade him, He can never retrieve himself.”” “sub Hoitgan, Geueral, is considered quite a Popular man.’ “So he 1s, to & Certain extent, He has done much Kt he is entitled to credit tor, But what was he Whell thesé Men of the ‘King’ took hold of him? Absoluiely nothing. Why did they take him pp they did and push him along auead of them as the: themselves waxed stroager? is there a man who knows auything about the politics of the past few years Who Was 80 blind that Le did not see turough Wally Why he was used simply as ‘A CLOAK OF RESCECTASILITY, to divert the peopie's-nttention from themselves. Hoffman even now hasn't influence or power of own, aicd never had, to Carry &@ caucus in his favor im New York or out ot it. lam Sorry taat Lott. man should have blighted his 3 by getting so imtimaiely connecied with those men against whom whe entire Gemocracy in the rural districts are rising as one man. “Waat do you think will be the upshot of the next election in Ue state under all tue circumstances of the el «The democratic party will win. All we have to @o is to shake Off Taumany, or the ‘iting,’ just as uw have @mind to call it, and denvuuce those auds and show that we are OPPOSED TO CORRUITION EVERYWHERF, ‘The party in the Stace is strong and uslled, and nothing can divide it if tne Rochester Convention does is duty. I feel certain we will carry both houses of the Legislature. All the talk of the radical press that there 1s no chance for us because of the frauds of Yammauy, which wiil be re- buked by the country democratic voters at the polis going over to the republicans, ao what the Conveution at Kochester may, is just so much bosh. The way the democratic party will rebuke the villany of corrupt men who claim to be democrats will be ¥ the stand they will take in their convention, Tne delegates represent the democratic voters, and once they show exactly ‘What the party think of corruptton in ottice, the q tion as to what ticket might Le elected will be a very simpie one for the people, The demvcrauc party bas owe been an honest party when in power, and to throw in {ts face asa crime of its own the thieving of a municipal government 1s absurd, par- ticularly when the party shows by the stand it takes that it resents with scorn the pretension of such municipal government having a teading con- 18 | } { | NEW YORK HERALD. TUESDAY OCTOBER 3. 1871.—QUADRUPLE SHEET, 4 Ledwith faction, or, rather, what do the country mocrats think of them %’ “Why, they don’t know anything about them. They are local affairs we care nothing avout, In years past, when Mozart was one of tie parties op- posed to Tammany, of course the country knew all about Mozart, for it had its ramifications ai! through the State, Since then THE PARTY IN THE COUNTRY has had no divisions whatever,and 1 don’t believe there is a single voter in the interior from one end of it to the other who knows anything about either O'Brien or Ledwith. They don’t care a fig for any faction in New Yors, nownatter what it 1s,” A number of gentlemen here entered the reom, and, as General Green was in demand, the couver- sation between him and your correspondent was brought to a termination. JUDGE COMSTOCK, I found Judge Comsteck quite willing to give his opinions as to what he thought of the New York troubles, “Do the country people, Judge,” 1 asked, ‘believe bed chars against Tammany to have been estab- ry “They, do toa man, Now, I have myself carefully read all the excuses put forth by the men against whom the charges have been made, and I think they are perfectly absurd. The defence they have made is no defence at all. To be sure, ihey have not been legally convicted of the frauds charged against them, that, I think there is sumcient proof agatnst them to show that they are not the mnocent men they | claim to be. And as for Mayor Hail’s exeuse that his duty was only & “ministerial” one, and that he could not oe beld responsible, I think that was the absurdest excuse of all. It may stand good with and they may never be; but, for all New Yorkers, but it wou.d not have much weight | in the country, where everything 1s Judged accort- ing to is worth, — It to tell you what our people in this portion of the State think about the macter, as you tell me you have come from the farther western portion. abouts 1t has pyoduced an imtiense excitement, and the indignation of tne party knows no bounds, Why, talking about it producing a bad effect nere in ‘this region, 1t has been made A WEAPON AGAINST THE PARTY all over the country. {tis unjust that such should be the cage; but there if is nevertheless, Just think of making Capital against the democratic party in Maine out of the doings of a clique of unprincipled men in New York city! It was only the other day that I was talking witha gentleman just returned from California, and he assures me the State was carried against the party solely on the ground of these Tammany trauds, Every speaker in the cam- paign made them his stock in trade, and what could tue democrats do? They could not answer them, The facts were too pan and they were powerless, and they lost their hold ali over the State.’’ “May that not be the same case with this State at the coming election?’ : “It will be if the Convention that meets in Roches- ‘Ver does not, in the name of the party, DENOUNCE THE MEN who are guilty and discitim any connection with them whatever, are in @ minority, ten thousand good democratic votes, Our party in the State, in the interior, like these ten thousand, is an honest, well meaning common sense party, They look at matters just as they are, not as they may oe glossed over to suit the whims or fancies of any party or any fraction of a pariy, and It is not easy to puil the wool over thetr eyes, as the saying is. Yet my conscientious conviction is that no one of these ten thousand will vote the Ucket this fall if any afliliation whatever 18 made with Tammany Hall at the Convention; aud,trom all I can learn the same feelmg prevalis ail over the entire State.’ “Must Tammany be refuscd admittance to the Convention to appease this feeling ?”? “I am oi that opinion. That 1s the only way to putan end to: the diiliculty. Lreally do oot think that the country will allow her to take a seat 1n the Convention under any circumstances, for they Know that they cannot possibiy represent THE FEELING OY THE HONEST DEMOCRATS in New York vity, as matters now stand.” “But if she should send a delegation of well-known men, distinguished for their probity?” ‘Lhe Judge seemed rather tickicd at this question, and laughed a little before replying. ; “That, 1 think, 1s an impossibility. 1 do not be- |, lieve there 18 a respectable, honest man in New York city who would allow his name to be mentioned in connection with thatof Tammany Hail. It would be monstrous to expect anythiuag of the kind.” “There may bea row if she is refused admit. mee. ‘Then let there be a row, and it will do us good in the long run. We would be fighting the battle of the citizens against a clique, and the people would be on vur side Lo matter what show of respectability Tammany may borrow to get into tue Convention. I have been, sir, a democrat aul my life time, and love the democratic party because. believe it to be the people's party, but I would rather lose my right arm than vote any ticket that Tammany Had might put up or that she would have a controlling voice ta | making up. And as i feel the great mass of the party feel, The Convention must act boldly about those frauds in New York, and not take a backward siep uncer auy influences Wiatsoever. It must not bee by making some compromise that will louk @ THROWING A TUB TO A WHALE. | What it does it must do for the people, or the people will crush out every man who stands between them and what is right. There isno need at the Convention to give the Tammany men any gratui- tous insult, but they can be made to understand easily enough, without anything harsh bemg done for the sake of harshness, that they and tne party are not one and the same thing, and tiat the party regard them in the light of mea who are not to be associated with. Tammany may get sulky over the treatment she may receive at the Convention, for I feel confident she will be roughly haadied by the country inembers if she tries to make herself heard, But wiat if she does? What if she goes home and reiuses to work for the ticket, and that by thatmeans the vote 1a New York be decreased so that the coun- try cannot make up jor the loss? What of it all? Tammany alone can be held responsible for the thing. But I tell you what it 1s, sir. I'd rathor see OUR PARTY OVERWHELMINGLY DEFEATED this fall, by reason of the Tammany vote falling off in New York in consequence of the treatment ehe ets at the Convention by honest men, than to allow it to go before the people that the party, for the sake of saving the Tammany vote, made a compromise with thieves, It would be far better for us to lose the e’ection this fall on this ground tnan to go ve(ore the people at the Presidential election weighed down by this weight of sustaining or compronising with ‘iamimany to gain votes at the State contest, I think that the condition of affairs 13 such now that the people of this country are ready to FALL INTO OUR AKMS and put the democratic party in power, provided we do not in this State, the Empire State of the democ+ racy, give way to either threats, beseechings or ex- pedicnces of any kind which may look, even if they Gre not, like traces with wrougdvers and enemies of honest ie ‘islation.”? “will the State go democratic, Judge, this fall, if No truce be made with Tampiany!” “It will, I have every reason to believe. It may be, as 1 sald befogn™ "2% the action of the Couven- tion may **”* ~~ gement of the followers of ‘Faminany s.. ity and thus lose us the soi State, But the ml GAEVi fall on Tammany in such a ye and th fact of our being deieated be- cause of. * _” MANPULLY OPPOSING CORRUPTION will only redound to our beneftt at the Presidential election, Which, after all, 18 the great contest which the party should be looking forward to. Putting aside the probability of tie defection of tne Tam- many voters, J tuink the State will go democratic,” “What delegation will be admitted from New York if Tammany will not bey”? «In my opinion the Convention will admit from New York the delegation that comes with ihe best, men who falthially represent the honest men of the party in thatcity, and none other. We can put a strong ticket in the fleld of well Known men, and put up @ platform that will have no uncertain plank in any part of it—a platform tat republicans as well as democrats can stand on IN PERFECT BROTHERHOOD, In this we have the advantage of not having made up our ticket yet. The republicans have put im the fieid a ticket of comparatively unknown mea, who, with posstbiy One exception, are barely known out- side of their own districts. ihey are all men who have no real solid hold on their own party—the whole pare mc toes 80 putting all things to- getuer 4 think the prospects of our party are excel- Jent' Alter the interview I had quite'a long chat with several of the gentlemen from the soutnern counties of the State who ure to be delegates at tne Conven- tion, and I found them all unanimous on this one point—that Tammany Hall should, under io con- sideration, be admitted to the Convention, imas- much, ‘come as “Tespectably dressed’? as she might, as one termed it, she could not really be the true representative of the seutiments of the houest ‘iopoctacy of the city, Now luo not know of aly two inen a IN THE COUNTRY DISTRICTS who are better posted as to the probable action of the country aelegates than are General Green and Judge Comstock. The former bas means of ascrr. taining ali about the general feeling beforenand ‘Vhat bat few other men have tn the interior, ‘There+ ‘fore, putting thls together with what I myself have heard the country delegates and their constituents say On the subject durimg my tavels so Jar, but one conclusion can be come to, and that is that Tam- many had better stay at home, ag sue will not be admitted into the Convention, FRANCIS KERNAN. Rumors that Tammany Agents are Bribing the Rural Velegates—The Country Districts Solid Against Ring—Republtcan Squab- bles and Republican Stealing—The Democe racy to Make Ltself the Party ef Political Parity—What the Next Legislature Will Do With the New Chai UTICA, Uct. 1, 1871, Theard a very strange story on arriving here this evening, which I cannot possibly believe to be true, Itis to the effect that. Tammany Hall has already sent out her emissaries to Work among the country delegates, with a view to fixing things cosily for ber trol of the ark f bg Of its own ilmits, As Dean | at the Convention to be held at Rochester, and that Richmond o a ‘A WHIG CAN AFFORD TO STEAL, and get elected, but @ democrat cannot’ The re- ee re divided, and they canuot de united. pa] Lit bitter andy aa wee Couatey aistricts a1 Ww. oo rammmen’ on tihe Dart ind that no amount can heal the breach. Besides, weak ticket im the field. Our chances are very “What doyou think about the O'Brien, Roosevelt the strongest kind of GOLDEN INDUCEMENTS are being offered to effect the much-desired pur- pose. The gentieman who told me of it ia @ reliable of the faction leaders | man, whose name I could mention would the pub- (hey ave put @ very | ication of it not be a gross violation of confldence. He not only told me what he had neard in relation fo ihe matter, but ne also mp the name of gue | Ly one of Whelrown papers as @ pWindier,’ And We have here, although we | is needless for me | But here- | | biy district A delegation so chosen would be Wel- of the supposed “travelling agents.” I can now partially account for the abruptness with which, @ ; few days ago, a prominent politician interrupted me, during @ conversation about the prospects of the party and what he tnought ougnt tq be done with Tammany Hall, with the question, “Did the { ‘Ring’ send you here to question me?’ Probably he knew that the “travelling agents’ were abroad or suspected they would be and didn’t want to be “approached.” In the face of the storm that is sure to burst upon Tammany should she dare to show herself in any sbape at the Convention, I am loath to believe that she has lost head to such a degree as to even attempt to “buy up” THE FORGERS OF THE THUNDERBOLTS $n advance, after the fasnion I have heard described, 80 1 will content myself by giving the story for what it is worth. H it be true, them it will be all the | worse for her, for I do not think, juding from the temper of the country delegates as already mani- fessed all over the interior, that any inducement she | can oifer will succeed in making her country an- | tagonists one the less, On the contrary, any attempt to buy them up will only make them ten times more bitter. Delegates to a State Convention do not, as a general thing, give out beforehand just what they intend to do, for to do so would greatly lessen thelr Influence in the Convention in case of a factious outourst of any kind during the proceedings; but, as | have learned by several observations and hear- gay, there is not one of che country delegates who | since his election has nos at some time or other openly expressed his determination todo all that lay in his power at Rochester to cut the “Ring” out of the party, if not for all time, at least until one | and all clearly prove themselves innocent of the | charges which ave been preferred against tuem. Shortly after my arrival in town I cailed cpon Mr. Francis Kernan —, who is to be @ delegate from | this city to the Convention—to ascertain what he | thought the Convention ought vo do about the trou- , bles in New York, and what effect, in his estimas | tion they wo uld have upon the coming election. it | was hig mistortune that my visit should have oce curred just as he was enjoying himsell in a “social | talk? with a party of friends iu the parlor, several | ladies being among the nursber, Lf was loain to disturb him; but, on informlag him wie | was, | Without 9 momenv’s hesitation he ushered me into & Neat little reception room, where his two sons and @ gentleman friend of the Jamily had preceded us Alter a general introduction all rouad we sat down, and lo a few moments had plunged headong mto the merits and demerits of the political situation. Mr. Kernan made no attempt whatever to DISGUISE HIS SENTIMENTS, and was very outspoken when I referred to the | ropability of Tammany’s making an eviort to force | er delegation into the Convention against any and | every oppositon, “My Opinion of the thing is just this,’’ said he. “Those men about whom there ig so much tajk, and their representatives, snould stay at home, 1 can- not seé what good they can do themselves pb; going to the Convention. if tney come they wiil | Cause trouble, and if they should have anything to do with the Convention one way or the other they will do nobody uny goud but our opponents, I can- didly believe that there is not a delegate in the en- | tire country Who is not Opposed to Lammany; and | when I say Taminany I simply refer to those men who claim to be its leaders, Not one of the dele- | gates has made tie slightest atlempt to conceal his sentimeats, and tuey will all be found tirm and de- termined when | THE TIME FOR ACTION isathand. Ifthere 1s @ solitary one who is in any | wise iriendly to the ‘Ring,’ he must be one who nas, i to gratily some spite or old grudge in some political | quarrel, got nominated as delegate throush Tam. | many influence, But f have yet to hear that any | such man has been chusen as a delegate,” i} “What would your advice to Tammany be if you | were asked for iti’? } “iy advice to the men who claim tobe the leucers 4 of Tammany would be to stand aside, What tuey | sould nave done, instead of holding Tammuany pri- mary elections, Would have been to have declared | it as their purpose not to have anytiutng to do witn | the primaries, and have let the peopie, of taeir own | accord, choose their own delegate for every Assem- | | | | comea by the Convention. | “What if tammany should come to the Conven- | ton, Mr, Kernan, and be retused admittance, and a } repeltion of the Syracuse row busineys shouid | occur, do you nos tak it would make a bad im- | ression upon vie Country and tell against the party a the election ?”? “Why, quite the contrary. If Tammany comes there and endeavors to force herseli or her ideas or | her suggestions upon the Convention she will be } kicked out, and tbe very fact of the Convention doing | that would be the very best evidence in the world to the people that the democratic purty is in earnest in clei its skirts of the sins of the ‘Ring,’ which alone should be held accountable for them. Ido not | think the leeling m the country against Tammany , 18 @ passionate One. The delegates will not give | ‘way vw the impulses of the moment and act harshly, bur they are determined, firm, imwovable in their | resolution to Lave uothiug whatever to do with the luen who are the cause of the alleged frauds in New | Yors, Tuere will te NO WHITEWASHING, No man will dare to screen the gulity parties, for if | anything of the kind should be done by the Conven- tion we wouldn't get enough votes in the State | ‘Worth ihe troubie of counting.” “Do you think the ‘iting’ will be denounced, or the meuibers of it individually r’’ “It will not be necessary to denounce the men com- Posing the ‘King’ by name, but te denunciation will be so pointed that names will not be necessury. Besides, the charges mide against some of thei may not all be true and they may yet be ubié to vin- dicate themselves; but if they are noi gulity of ail that has been imputed to them as crimes, they have certamly been proved guilty of the grossest kind of criminal negligence. We have as yet seen nothing ike a cific = demial of the charges made osgainst the ‘Ki? When they were first made and began to excite the pudiic mind, the promise was given that the city accounts would be puvlisned. It was claimed that when they would be pubjished they would show not only exactly how the finances of the city stood, but would demonstrate the ialsity of the charges made by the press. They never kept that promise, and that fact has done muvh to excite the indignation of the country, for itiooked like a coniessiou of une Mavulty to disprove tae attacks upon tuem. in fact, AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF GUILT, Then came the burgiary in the Comptroller's of- fice, followed by the discovery of the burned vouch+ ers and the insinuations of the friends of the indi. vidual members of the ‘Kivg’ that tue burglary and the burning of the papers were done by the frieads of this, that or the other member. Is 1t unreasonable to expect that tie party in the country should get terribly indignant over such a state of affairs, or that they should, in the face of all the charges made acd more than ever that Tammany will fi | Rochester @ very hard one indeed if she determines to travel that way ou Wednesday. The e the will try to make capital out of them fr off that a republicans during the Presidential election campal, “Well, the Presidential election 1s 80 man can scarcely judge what may be done or what may happen. However, I have no doubt the repud- licans will make the most they can of the New York city frauds; but I would greatly prefer that we should get defeated this {all after we have de- nounced the corruption in New York city than to go into the Presidential campaign with THE BURDEN OF TAMMANY’S SINS unen us. What if we should be defeated at the com election; one at wtep wili have beea gained, By a severe denunciation by the Conven- lon of corruption and malfeasance im office, and especially of the corruption of the ‘Ring,’ we shall have cleared our decks for action, and we can go | inne ine fight with nothing to trammel our move- “But the corruption in New York will be dragged up by the republicans as an argument against the iy all the saine; do you not think 80%”? “It undoubtedly wilt be; but we will not be with- outour answer, We can call tne people to witness ‘that we took the charges against these mer in New York in hand, and not onl denounced them openly in convention, but rei to recognize the men a3 fitting representatives in the party. Then we can pout to the corruption that 1s going on under the federal government. In fact, if the question of cor- ruption is mude the tssue during the Prestdential election, and the repubitcans attack the democratia | rty On that score, 1 think it will be found a doubie- edged sword iu their hands, Indeea, 1 believe taat all this excitement about the frauds in New York wili be of incalculable good im the end. It has , thoroughly AROUSED THE PEOPLE | all over the country to the extent corruption Is go- 1ng on, and once they begin to look around them, and to think more of the state of atlairs than they have done, the result will be a tendency to make urity, honesty and virtue @ test of a man’s fitness for pubite oftice. They will see how corruption is sowing its seeds broadcast over the land, and how 4b permeates every department oi life, and how, by reason of it being so common, they nave allowed themselves to remain blind (o the dangers that are certain to resalt {rom itall, It they only look about them for evidences they will see how Senator i'his | and Congressman That has grown wealtny since he | got e'ected; how men in this, tlrat and the other de-* Partment of the government have become million: haires after being in the enjoymenfof public position jor but a few years, at & not very large salary. When the people are thoroughly aroused to all this, I say, and calmly take into consideration HOW IT MUST ALL END, they will exert themselves to uproot the cause, And certainly, if this were the only result of the expo- sures Of the Corruption In New York city, all honest men ought to {cel rejoiced aud be thankful.’” “What do you think of Mr. Tweed runaing for the Senate: “While these charges remain disproven agains Tammany | think it very unwise on his part, and he certainly will do the party no good by running, If we should get control of tne Senate his mfuence would be nothing; Jor the other members might fear, if they favored any scheme he might put forth, they would be looked upon by the country as iriendly to the ‘Ring.’ It would be the part of wisdom for him to stay at home; but the party cannot be held responsible for what he may Clioose to do.” “Do you ve that the next Legislature, should it be democratic, will take the New York City Char- ter in hand?” “1 think it will, The country members will try to give the metropolis as good a system ol government ag they would ask for themselves, ‘The charter has been 1ound defective, and something better must be given the people—something which will give tlie eopie and not auy clique the say as to Who shall carry on their local affairs—in fact, pat it on the same footing as other cities in the State, It snoald make somevody responsibie for the way the govern- ment ts carried on, who will have the power to re- Move and appoint nis subordinates. The idea of governing New York city trom Albany through com. In vain they flung them at the victor’s feet. The Greeks but carved them into sausage m eat, Took ail wasleft (not mach, be sure), and then Set them to fix the temple up again. Back to the present let us gayly troop, O, Sagamores and sachems, with a whoop. Not mine the thought that on your rowdy crew Would ix the Delphic stain ; yet not a few ‘There are in this corrupt old Gotham’s town Who circulate the tale, with canting frown, And say you've torn the temple portals down, ‘That then, foreootn, you stole and stole— The golden candlesticks, the sacred bowl; Melted the bronzes, pocketed the spoons, And turned the mystic urns into spittoons, The meaaing of the latter paradox is ‘That you, tn fact, have staffed the ballot boxes. ‘They say they’ve pointed to the rifled wails And saw their treasures decorate your halls, ‘The temple diamonds on your shirt fronts glitter, The cushion-stufMings fashioned to a litver; And one rogue suys he saw, and holds it still, ‘The temple carpets upon Murray Hill, Ha! ha! in honest rum-filied self-reliance, You hurl back Philomelus Tweed’s deflance. 1 hear your cry, “Unstained our honors are; We diadt all to carry on the war, Weill done, bold Keyser, great contracting type; You earned your paltry millions “laying pipe.” Hall, ingersoll! now wave thy yard-stick sword; Full many a thousand (dollars) it has “floored,” Great Garvey, soother of the braves’ disaster, Whavt’s healed more wounds than thy Parisian plaster ? O, sweeping Brown, to thee who'll hold & candle For charging foemen with a street broom handle ? Triumphant Transcript, stanrped with battle dint, What hundred thousands hast thou killed—in print? Yet still, my Sachems; slaves whom I abhor, Say “this 1s magnificent, but ’tisn’t war.’? ‘rhe crowd have caugut it and 0, grief on grief! ‘They're on your trail, their battle-cry, “Stop, thief !”” Close up the ranks, I heard the cry of priae— “Divide and conquer; conquer ani divide.” “’Tis not for naught our wily chiefs have doled ‘This to the poor, that to some easy-souled Republicans, who didn’t much care which Side they served, if they got only rich, Has not Hank Smith, the Mohawk boy, of late ‘Tak’n home an ass-i0ad of the temple plates Is not Tom Stewart of the pasted hair Ours by ten thousand ties crisp, green and fair? And though abroad we wouldn’t have it known Dare stout Rufe Andrews call his soul nis own? But hope of hopes among our bitter foes The Demon of Dissension discord sows. See great Ambiton’s fatal smile is bent on The tow’ring form and gathered brow of Fenton, To him Rufe Andrews, to him Stewart, Smith We'll use his master hope to scourge him with. Your fatai friendship be his tempting bait, And yet we'll hold our grip upon the State. Ambitious, too, a3 he who failed at Moscow— Mark the snakes curled around the brow of Roscoe— Jealous, usurping, pompous, full of cant, Who'd serve himself in serving Mr. Grant; Who holds his tools at government expense, And Penton hates through every mood and tense, missions 1s a bad one, They gave rise to much of the corruption lu New York, because men of both Partles were enablea PLAY INTO EACH OTHER'S HANDS, and it was to the interest of each side to prolong the system aud all hands tu power, ‘The councry elties, 80 to speak, Manage their local aflairs without any outside interference, and they expect New Yorkers todo tne same thing. For instance, we pay our taxes and we keep a sharp look oul ay to the way the money 1s used, and If we find the men we have put in‘o position do not do right we go to work afid Whale them until we get them out. This 1s very Jain, isn’t 16? Well, that’s just what we expect ork city to do. Taxpayers there must cer- tainly think ‘As much of their money as we doof ours in the cities outside of New york, and itis their business, Not that of the people out of New York, to gee that it is not misused, YGE “NEW CHARTER,” as the charter of 1870 was called, was proclaimed as @great measure ol reform; butithas not turnea out to be all that was expected or it. The fact is it was 44 in such a Way tnatl doubt very much if any country member ever saw a true copy of it beforehand, The uext Legislature, 1f democratic, will, in my opinion, fi from any King’? in- fluences, provide a system of total government for the city which, instead of looking like an eifort to tie her down, will be in reality a measure by which she can take care of her own affairs safely, and at the same time have ample power te check any wrong duing by her oiiciais without each one ac cusing the other of being the only one responsivie. There should be one responsibie head.” Your correspondent, satixtied at tuis point that he had obtained Mr, Kernan’s views of the situation as fully as the readers of the HERALD could possibly desire them, rose and went his way, convinced id the road to “THE PHOCIN DOOM. “HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.” A Rythmie Rendering of Tammany’s Temple- Robbing and Its Results, Coming Battle at Rochester. SACHEMS AND SAGAMORES BEWARE! against the ‘Ring,’ now determine tocut them off | The Council of Syracuse—Who Ran It—How It entirely? And cut off they will be until they can rove that they are not guilty, This ts what the vonvention onght todo, and willdv im my opinion. if it does not do so the party Wili he overwhelmingly defeate 1, and, what’s more, by Heaven! it would deserve tobe, There are a great many good and true men, I have no doubt, who call themselves Tammany men, but they are not the men whom I refer to in speaking of Tammany. I mean the ‘Ring,’ the men who claim tu exert the power of the Tammany organization.” “T dare say you have noticed that an antl-Tam- many delegation 1s to go to Rochester, under the lead of Charles O’Conor 1"? “i have, and I think the delegation onght to be admitted. If such a delegation should be set aside | in tavor of Tammany } have no doubt very many of the country delegations would deliberately jeave the Convention.” | “Do you think the prospects of the party will be good 4 the Convention acts deverminedly with Tam- many “The election will result in our favor in such 9 case, I feel certain; but, in order to win, the Von- vention must show the people that the party is not f pany that Javors fraud, aud that, cost what it will, Ww! : HESITATE AT NO SAORIFICB in order to drive from out its midst men who are corrupt in oMve. This willdo away with the bad effect (hat has been used in the country by the revelations of the ‘King’s’ doings, and i do not think there will be very many, after the Convention shows plainly what the party thinks of the maiter, Who Will alow the effort made upon them at first by the revelation of the frauds to drive them out of our ranks. All the people of the State desire 1s to be as- | sured thatthe party 1s dead against corruption of all kinds, and will not do anything that wouid jook like | shielding the ‘King.’ 1his once settled our road Will be a straight one to victory.” “Will ube feuds among the republicans be kept up in the country, and (hus Make the party's vic- tory still more certaiu?? “Lam of the opinion they will be kept np. Fro Was Run—Amphictyon Roscoe’s Anti-Tam- many Fight—The Custom House “Greek” Riles Reuben and Rufus, AN EPIC BY THE MODERN D{ODORUS. At this time the Amphictyonic Council met, and the con. ue! duct of the people of Phocis In desecrating the Temple of ‘Apollo at Delphi was the cause of declaring a war against | that people, in which all Greece joined, * * * At the end of ten years, when the Temple, which had-been plundered of all ite valuables, could no longer furnish means to the war, | and soldiers were all siain, their towns wretched remnant ordered’ to restore tl back the treasures at fifty talents a year, carry on beaten, their leaders pulled down and the ¢ Temple, and pay nd the Phocians were finally Of doings here and up at Syracuse, | sound! u my thund’ring lyre—sing, neavenly muse! Howl, sweet plug-uglics | Dear ‘dead rabbits” sing! Roll forth your tigers,’ champions of the Ring; | For, lo, to you this pean proud belongs— This miracle of majesty in songs. | Great Tammany, go deck yourself in lanrel, | For thine’s the vict'ry in the latest quarrel, | List, then, my sachems, how it came to pass, | Rap your applause in Knuckles ringed with brass, While I fall toand rythmically shout How certain parties and their ‘musa’? fell out. Deep in the shadows velling the antique Tread we the way, to when each greedy Greck, ym | Brimful of war, cried ouc in wordy storm, all L can learn about them they are very bitter, and | “They've plundered Delphi, let us have reform,” lhear that the feeliug against the Conkling party has been growing stronger and stronger every day since the Syracuse Convention adjourned, There are inany men in the country, good republican: | and turned his optic, with grin sardonic, | To where the Council, called Amphictyonic, | Sat wrangling through the morning, noon and nignt, Who don’t like the idea of it being said that Wey | got ended in a grim resolve to fight. were WHIPPED IN BY THE ADMINISTRATION, Intriguing Philip, backed by lazy Thebes, . and they don’t relish the domineering, dictatorial | Had found the Phocians ploughing up the glebes spirit evinced by Conkling. And, then, another ad- vantage we'll have 1a the campaign, alier our Con- vention plauts tts foot down firmiy and declares against the corruption of the ‘King,’ will be vis: If our Opponents, notwithstauding our action, con- tinue vo throw the New York corruption io our, faces, we can say, ‘Well, we found corruption | amoug democra' we cub them of from the party; bub what have you Gone? Your own newspapers denounce the very man who forced your delegates , to do his bidding at (he Convention, and they argue | to show how he has no: been a model of probity, and yet, instead of having nothing to do with nun, you tnake him your chosen leader. assure you, will have a gvod effect im the country among the honest met of the republican party, »ho | Around the temple of the god Apollo, And if such desecration they could follow, ‘Tis time, they said, for every Greek to hollo. | War rose and flapped her biighting wings about, ; And Phoels trotted all her forces out, in office, and we denounced them, | The temple offerings, silver, gems and gold | Were grabbed and to the highest bidder so.d; Contractors of the modern class called shoddy Equipped (we know now) Phools’ wartike body, And, like their Yankee imitators here, This kina of talk, I | Their services, at any cost, were dear. In vain their efforts; Phiomelus fizzied. vote not because they belong to a certam party, but | Thelr hatt-ciad armies went to fight, but mizzied, because they desire good government and Wo always vote for that party which is the readiest to SECURE A GOOD GOVERNMENT in bo bag These = Ak y Guekien with the Contrast thus presented, re "That 1s @ fact; fie democrats. denounced thet’t bad! members and sent them adrift, yet the republicans have takeu Jor their ieader a ian openly denounced ; In vain the walnut pews were sold tor frewood; Do what they might the Greek’s religious ire would Whip them to nothing. ‘Their enemies, More vainly still reclaimed Bach inch of temple ground, when lost for “tick? (There's no allusion to the Church of Brick), Dead broke, played gut, vaved in and beat, Vainly they defamed O friends ! we yet shall have them in the tolls; For, like ourselves, they’re going for the spoils. A blessing in disguise to men of ‘nous? Is that New York contains a Custom House, Against the radicals our game is sure; It wants but time to let our plans mature; . And yet—plague take all rotten party planks— We've most to feat from those within our ranks; Cankered wita honesty, they’d cut our throats By foolish virtue splitting bard-sheli votes,’? So spake that great but lately spavined hoss ‘Whom ye, O abject sachems ! name your ‘Bogs,’” ‘With hoarae, rude cheers, the low-browed tiger cubs Swore their eternal fealty ou their clubs, Through every ward the noble watchword ran— “Stand by our friends; down with each honest man |” And then, 0 Tammany! you sat and sniggered, Aud o’er the Syracuse Convention figured, Now to that city way up in the State We'll bend our footsteps at the beck of Fate; Mor in our ptigrimage one moment halt Until we've stepped on Onondaga sait. Fair county ’gainst whose little jobs to stickle Our legislators oft have rods in pickle, Until with golden straws their palms you tickle. So great thy fame, mother of all brine, ’Tis gold, they say, not salt, is in the mine, Small wonder, then, that to thy county town The radical prospectors should come down, And ‘mid its meet surroundings plan and plot ‘Their next game for the State's big golden “pot,” So, though digression this sweet song retards Let’s o’er their shoulders see what's on the cards : There's Reuben Fenton, tricky, siipp’ry polished. Stroking his beard, he thinks how he’s demolished 441s foes before, and now he never tires Of pulling round his puppets on their wires, ‘Things have not gone with him of late so well. He hated Grant, from whose esteem he fell. For that he wouidn’t care, but swelled his rage ‘When grim Ulysses stopped his patronage; Turned out his gray-haired henchman, honest Moses, And left his followers, like vile Blue Noses, Shiv’ring outside the snug-berthed party fold, Fenton, in fact, was left out in the cold, He now essays to make his sad gang hearty, ‘The sore-head leader of the sore-head party. “But list,” ne cries, “my friends, tho’ I should fall oft, If but the Cheese-Press heroes and the Hay-Loft Stand by me now, to-morrow we may win, And then your chief shall not be ‘out,’ but ‘in.’ Charge down on Conkling’s ranks and bust ’em, And hurl out Shoddy Murphy from the Custom House; carry, my boys, the Legislature; Albania’s lobby suits my very nature’? ‘The farmer radicals applauded this, And Fenton's boot were ready straight to kiss; Because each corn-cob head and mouth so mealy Was pledged to vote with turntp-pated Greeley— Greeley, the simple sage of Chappaqua, ‘Whose veering mind some vague ambitions gnaw; Honest enough, but easy to be played By every rogue, and then to be betrayed. He made a President and thinks, poor man, Unmake another he as surely can, ’Bout “what ke knows” he’s always in the rables On squashes, tariff, politics or babies. He’s not at Syracuse for votes to pump, But like a dead-broke Warwick on the stump. A “one-term man, he’s down on Grant and Mur- AY, annie a flounder in the Long Branch surf he Didn’t know where he was, which way to “‘get,’” And so fell into Fenton’s realy net. Figuratively, next upon old Greeley’s back Come burly Andrews and the Tamm/’ny pack, Turning that famous white coat to a cloak To hide the price of service in each poke, A few stanch radicals count in as well— ‘The manly Roberts and the gay Grinnell, With sinclair Tousey—crabbed, factious, lank— ‘The lean-jawed essence of a canting Yank, Now turn to Roscoe Conkling, six feet high, With hopes of power bailt up to the sky; Of him before we've heard; so let us speak Of flat faced Murphy, @ most cunning “Greek ;”” Aman of dodges, make-belleves and shifts, “Feared even in the doling of his gifts.” ‘The ready servant of his White House boss, A speculator never at a loss. ‘Where’er nis fishy eyes are set, he taps Some fount of stamps, whether in Svots or caps; ‘the foe of Greeley and the Tammany tools, Fresh from his office in the public schools; ‘The rule-or-rutn platform pian perfector, The whipper-tn—in other words, Collector; He, too, 1s hero, the curly Roscoe nigh, ‘phat satellites shall vote beneath his eye. They're here io plenty, scoured from Fed'ra} nests, Ready to lay their hands upon thelr vests And shout that Grant’s a presidential gem, And swear by Murphy while he swears by them, ‘There's Arthur, the two-hundred-pounder fop, Slow-coach Cornell, too heavy at tne top, But these "il pass and touch a gas-dispenser, The party squirrel, little Charley Spencer, ‘Then shrinking Opdyke, like the boy Jack Horner, Hiding hig little setf in any corner. Designing Webster, of the vulture beak, ‘The caucus-runser to the crafty Greek, Eratwhuile of Johnson, now of Grant the slave, A ready-changing, flerce guerilla brave. If asked what bis suppoct iu turn to eaca meant 7 —— oft impeacts Why he backed Andy ‘gainst th’ ment,” He’l\ tell you, with a gently heaving breast, “Granv’s in the White House; leave the dead @ rest,’” Next Dr. White, the lettered party nob, The smoother of the St, Domingo job, An estimable creature and a {air man To rule for hig own 1action as a chairman. Now o’er the town of night-wrapped Syracuse The party henchmen caucus aad amuse Themselves with stories, cocktails, songs and ru, Till not a man looks even haifways glam; The Murphy men want music with their grog And call Rabe Fenton nothing but a ‘hog.’ Because, before the vigtl’s sun went down He'd bought up all the tooters in the town, Then Hughey Gardner takes his bagpipes out, And plays for all th’ administration rout, For false decorum who would care a fig, See Murphy leads off with an Irish jig, While kenton’s band, by Fenton's party pala, ‘ Makes miduight hideous with a serenade, The morning breaks; the gorgeous, golden sun Tis path of glory long since has began; The delegates are up with brains a-fire, Partly from last night's whiskey, partly ire Suspicious rowdies gather tn the streets Belonging to the classic class of ‘‘beats;” Now rouna the hall they gather in a crowd And ask admission with a marmur loud. “Show me your tickets,’’ snouts a man withiny “Break in the door; now, that’s too thin.” At this sad juncture three diurnal acribes Present themselves, and oaths, retorts and jibes Are scattered round until Mark Lanigan, A big-boned buder of the Fenton clan, Catches the door and pulls it open wide, And the three scribes make safe retreat inside, “Now let us foilow,’’ cries the shouting throng, “God and the right, the battle to the strong.’? Aus 1s made, when sundry loaded canes Aud chair and tabie legs and jagged remains Of broken‘furniture descend on heads, And many black republicans are “ Reda’? About the nose, and over many @ skull ‘The sound of a concussion somewhat dull Is heard, and then the owner of the head Is im fit state to seek his Little bed, Revolvers, bowieknives and dirks out flash, And things look serious for 9 human basi; But Just in time arrive the town police, And the Convention opens now in peace. Slow coach Cornell, with stolid, empty stare, Mounts up the rostrum steps and takes the chalr, Curled Roscoe Conkling then takes off his hat, And Charley Spencer, peering like a rat, Scans the Convention, Now the opening row Turns on the troubled, testing question how The temporary chairman shall be chosen Without one faction gaining, ’tother losin’. Spencer hops up witn order points, and Rufus, True to his contract, trie: to raise a new fuss, Boid Waldo Hutchins struggles to be heard, Confusion reigns and Cornell's seen to gird The platform with poitce; but when at last Hutchins is heard, the testing votes are cast. Now White steps forward, makes his bow and talks Of peace and harmony and virtue’s walks, Which all republicans are hoped to tread in; And the fair halls republicans are fed in, ‘Lhe peace disease seems not at all contagious, The Greeley party growing more rampageous, For they’ve been beaten with a slim majority; But make a large and noisy-tongued minority, Now Rufus talks a piece of special pleading, Which, spread at length, makes very pretty read- ing. In brief, he fings the standard of revolt, “Acknowleage us or, like a Texan colt, By the great god of harmony, we'll boit.’” Speeches are made of various weights and sizes, And presently the specious Roscoe rises, Witn dragged enunciation he proceeds And flings aspersions on the party deeds. Of those who've robbed fair Freedom on her shrine, Cries “Tammany, the Delphic fate be thine,” And thinks it fair that those ‘neath 'Greeley’s coal Should be content with only half a vote. ‘This is aMirmed by ali the Grant-fed gang, * And sileuce for a moment seems to hang Over the throng, when Tousey seeks his feet, He wants no favors, he’s been foully beat, And he, with Greeiey’s growlers, will retreat. “They've bolted,” cry the crowd, and Chartey Spencer Hops on a seat and swings a peaceful censer What followed the. * i oa ‘The talking came ‘ The row was ov: For though the ™ Quite for a bol: And doom’s b Ww spoken— ‘Their foes sot And they as' QO! Tammany what great escapes are thine; Let every jeweled rough now ‘‘open wine,” But ere you drink if, Sachems, drop the glasde= There’s yet more danger, for it comes to pasa: That there is trouble ‘mong thy fighting crew, Who most infailibly wili bolt from you. Nay, more, they swear, without the slightest doubly At Rochester they’ll throw your red men out, Let noisy F ellows sirut in rebel gray And smooth Dick Gorman talk nis tongue away; Let stout Mullaly a keen Record keep And Speaker Hitchman do his best to speak— 3 ‘There's tougn, hard work before them, take my word, k Before they'll even, in your name, be heard. Lo! Charles O’Conor, pride of Gotham’s var, Is tempted out to vear their flag of war. See Sammy Tilden, Peter Havemeyer, All going for you Iike a house on tire, Pete Mitchell's out; methinks you surely should Not hollo till you're out of Benjy Wood, And see your pap-raised child, sleek James O’Brien, Has led the rebels their loud vengeance cry in, Slippery Jimmy, honest when it pays, And, faith, the ery 1s thriving nowadays. Round thelr red standard see the people flock, See how Injunction Foley runs to block Your chariot wheels, and fatal sign of all, Hark! now the “rounders” for your bodies callf Each party brigand and each paltry thier That runs a club 1s hailing the new chief- Be sure the masthead is about to dip When rats like these desert the “iiger” ship, Stand by your colors, ruflians, as you are; Die, sachems, in a blaze of wordy war. Fight while you may, like flends; give ne’er 4 whine, ‘To-morrow, tho’ the Phocians’ fate be thine, A POMPADOUR SAVES A YOUNG LADY'S LIFE, ‘Among the passengers on the steamer St Sonn, on her last trip down the Hudson river, were Mr, John Straiton, of Pearl street, and family, just re turning froma three months’.sojourn among the Adirondacks, The steamer dropped anchor off New- burg in a fog, and at half-past nine o'clock ” Sun- day morning, tue fog having liited, they we ing the anchor. Mr. Straiton and hia famil ing Miss Louisa Burns Stratton, his eldest fifleen years old, were looking over the b watching the anchor coming up, when sndd rope attacbel to the arm of a davit which w used in raising the anchor snapped asur arm swinging around, hitting Misy Straitor side of the face and knocking her down a ho through which she fell head foremost and s her head on the floor, a@ fait of sixteen fe force of her fall was on her pompadour. Th her life. Her escape from Instant death wa @ miracle. There are many Instances of «et fashion losing thetr lives through too blind! Ing the dictums of fashion, but of few wa have us been saved. LAYING OF A CORNER STONE, The corner stone of the new edifice of St lomew’s cliurch was laid yesterday aiter four o’clock, at the corner of Madison ay Forty-fourth street. A procession, he Bishop Potter, of the diocese of New York, rector of the churcn, the Rev. Samuel ¢ lowed by the wardens, the vestry ana quit Bumber of clergymen, proceeded to or the _ building, where, by a i servi @ ceremony was forme: Potter, The Services ‘cousistod of the 121 = by the procession, @ short adare is prayers and the “Gidria in Excels by all present. The records of the cuurch, tablishmeut in 1836, and the names ¢ ergy, Wardens and vestrymen who hav sluce that lime were buried under the Cort Je congregation for, wild ing ere. Ba worship at presep§ iu Lasaye = Corner of Great Jomes street