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every day in a certain way and snould Bemoneen me = i STRONG MAND OF THE PEOPLE itis allowed to go on robbing them any I refer to the caual ring.” not exclusively a r.ng of democrats, 1s tt!” pares No, nota bit of It, The lea lers play into each hands whenever they want to gain a point. makes little difference to them what the Acs & man who runs for the Senate or the nh long as heisknown to be all right on the ‘question. Ifhe happens to be & demo- “all rigut’ the republicans imterested in jobberics, sup) im as ag: - candidate should the latter not be the kind of a they want in the Legisiature; and vice versa if man who runs happens to be a republican.’? “This ‘ring’ makes most of its money by getting CLAIMS THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, ‘Goes it not?” “It 1s bard to tell in What way it makes the most , for it has sO many Ways of robbing the ple. Why, | know of one lustance where a con- got $380,000 for work done on a certain por- on of the cauais which could not have cost $12,000, is is only one Of many instances of the work of ie ‘irng’ and its friends.” “That is d business precisely after the way the New York ‘ring’ is charged wiih having swin- died the people.” % “Precisely. Bat you hear less of th's canal ‘ring’ than of the otner in New York, asa maiter of sono? but, for all that, it 1s a bad organization, c { SHOULD BE BROKEN Ur.” “Tt ts crea Agere and 1s doing a great deal every day getting stronger in its power to do evil.’? “But can it be broken up?” { «That's exactly What everybody who desired the @estruction of Tammany has been asking himself Yor years, and yet her doom has come at !ast. And how did it come? By the people getting aroused ‘and going to work earnestly for her overthrow. The peo] can do the same with the canal ring and every other ring that start up in our midst, I now tt requires nard work and cont and courage ‘Yo fight one of these powerful rings, the members of ‘which work and toll and organize, notfor the public ood, but to enrich themselves at the public ex- ‘pense; but right always prevails in the long run.” “GOVERNOR HOFPMAN geoms to be very quiet, during all vbis fuss about Tammany, Mr. Ganson?” be ae has remained very quiet, I understard that action about that 12th of July paraué ‘created quite a coolness between him and the Jeaders of the ‘Ring,’ and that since that day hée has had very littie todo with them. if this be 50 Tthiok it was a very lucky thing for him.” “ What is your opinion about the nominations at the Convention. Will the ticket of 1859 be repeated?’ “I think not. If I had all to say about it 1 Would put Ottendorfer, of your city, at iho head of the ticket for Secretary of State, and Francis Kernan, of Uuca, for Attorney Geuera!, But it 18 hard to tell yet with any certaimty what the Con- Vention will do.”” This ended the interview, which was a very Pleasant one througpout. WILLIAM G. FARGO. A Basincss Man’s View of the Situation Things Generally in a State of Muddlie— Politics to be Purged of Corruption— The Cenvention to Denouncp the Ring— Ottendorfcr tor Secretary of State. . Locxrort, N. Y., Sept. 26, 1871. Just before I left Buffalo yesterday on my way to his out-of-the-way place I had quite a long talk ‘amis air. Gs WILLIAM G. FARGO bn the political situation as seen through country Memocratic spectacles. It is almost necdless for me to tell your readers who Mr. Fargois. He has World-wide fame as the great expressman of. the period, whose name has been connected so many years with the overland coach and mail routes, Mr. Fargo, although well advanced in years, re- tains all the buoyancy of youth, and 1s to-day as hetive and untuing in his business as he was twenty years ago and more. He is possessed of Bn ample fortune, and has an elegant residence in the pity of BuQaio—which ia his permanent residing . Place—where he dispenses hospitality in truly regal Btyle. While he does not take a very active part in volitics, he has been for years an immense power behind the throne in this section of the State, and van make or unmake @ candidate with more case and Jess bubbub than than any other man in the Western counties, “I have not of late bothered my head much about politics,” sald he to me during bur conversation, ‘but I always take great interest in what is going on in the poiitical world.” Aud Unis interest, let me add, has, I have learned, more than once, ina State campaign, done more to de- cide THE FORTUNES OF A CAMPAIGN than ail the harangues and stump sermons Of all the politicians 1or miles around put together. He was eeated, writing at a desk, ina little, plain but neatiy furaished oMce on the second floor Of the building occupied by the Merchants’ Union Express Company when I called upon him. When Ttolad him who I was he immediately rose, shook me heartily by the hand and, drawing up a chair be- side his own, bade me sit down and make myself comfortable. I don’t exactly know whether Mr. Fargo, when he ascertained that | was a HERALD Commissioner on his travels through the State to find out what the country democrats are going to fo with Tammany in particular and every- thing eise th general next clection, was aware that I intended to “interview” bim. At any rate, when I began to talk abouc the situation end wind up my suspicions of the way the political wind was blowing with a ques- tion meant to be answered, he quietly put down his pen, settled himself snugly into his ample arm- chair, and drew a long breath, a3 much as tosay “Now I'm in for tt.” “What do you think of the political situation as it stands at present?” I asked him, after going over in a general way the entire subject of Tammany and doings in New York. “4 think,” said he, after a shore pause, “that at present everyting looks rather muddled; ‘but there is along period yet remaining before election, dur- ing which everything can be straightened out in a Way that will in the end prove satisfactory. 1t is greatly to be regretted that such a static of affairs should last for any length of time, but the cause which gave rise to it all can be easily done away with. Beiore the doings of Tammany were exposed the repuvlicaus tn the Siate | bad rather a gloomy prospect of it. in point of fact they would not have hada fvvtto stand on at the election. The people were all with us; that 1s to say, the great majority of them, und we were as CERTAIN TO SWEEP THIS STAT a we are thay ihe sun rose this morning. Governor Hoffmanjs administration has been such as to m all the deYaocrats take, wore than ever, a greater interest in the conduct of the affairs of the State, and the extraordinary success which has crowned the democratic poiicy of iow volls on the canals was | giving us pew ireuds every day from the other arty. In addition to all this our opponents were g@uuing among themselves, and the bitier fecliug between the two factious had become so deep seated (uat both, in their determination tu CUP RACH OTHERS THROAT, cost what il might, were getting to be quite forget- ful Of the fact that before tuey could get into power there Was suct a thing as a “democratic party to Le | whipped. But I must confess that the prospects are by 10 Means the same now.” nd the cause of ihe change was ” “Those charges Of gigantic frauds which have | been proven against Tammany Hail. Those people in New York who are heart ani soul determined, if bard work can do it, to make the democratic ucket ‘successiul (his tal will make @ great misiuke U lucy think THE COUNTRY DEMOCRATS fook upon the juss in your city as a purely local at- fair, tobe settled, as best it may be, by the people of New York city alone. The facts prove that the countty democrats jook upon the doings of Tam- many in guite a different light. ‘The revelations ef the criminality of the Ring have not only created among them a profound aud paintul seusation, but they have aroused in them a Jecung of reseutment that ts not to be trified with.”” oath I to understand that in your opinion the fact at turn the country democrats over to the other rey “J do not say that; but I do say that THE FEELING AGAINST TAMMANY in the country districts is intensely bitter. Jt will admit of no compromise. It insists pres the utter political annihilation of the*men who were the cause of the ue and cry that has been so unjusily gent Up against the pariy ail over the country because of their conduct.” “Theo there is & way by Which this feeling can be “{ do not think there is any way by which the country democrats can ever licreafter look upon Tammany Hail in any other git tian that of an enemy to the Welfare of the party. This feeling is unmistakable, as you wi\l Nnd the more you travel th the State. But Ido not wish you to think that I consider that tis feeling wiil cause the de- feat of the party. The success of the party, ia my depends upon one thing sulely.’” “and what is that?” [ts this: Tammany MUST TARE A BACK SBAT pereafter. At the Convention that ueets at Roches. ter she must heve nothing Whatever to say. Her voice must not be recognized, and the men who Dave bronght such disgrace upon the city govern- ment must be openly denounced and their bad doings stigmatized in unequivocal terms, Nothing Me & whitewashing of tue ‘Rug’ suould be Wie Tammany has been proven to be so gulity wMt | NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY. OCTOBER 3, 187.—QUADRUPLE SHEET. tatea by the Convention. must take a decited stand on this question of the New York trauds, and show vo the le that the democratic party of the State is not , as it never fas been, a party that encouraged or attempted to COVER UP MALFEASANCE IN OFFICE. ‘The country democrats wiil insist upon this, and if, by some circumstances (which I for one cannot fore- see, with the present slate of fecling on the subject so uni je ag it 13), their determination to brand the ‘Ring’ in its true character should be smothered, then the State will (3 overwhelmingly Tepublican. But feel that the Convention will do its duty in the premises. The men who wl repre. sent country districts are men who will not shrink from their daty, and will prove faithful to the sentiment now pervading every county west of New York. 1 don’t think they will meet with any obs! cle in carrying out their determination, tor Tamma- pig ags more than crazy to attempt any oppo- sition. “‘Vertamly all this goes to show that, after all, the country democrats do not consider the rumpus in New York @ local affair?” “It goes to show that the country democrats are smarting under the unjust imputations that have been cast upon the party on account of THE DOINGS OF THE ‘*RING,” to the effect that the party 1s responsible for the corruption that has been dragged into the dayligut. ‘They know the imputations are undeserved, and they feel that if they do not boldly, openly and with- out reserve of any kind denounce the wrongdoers the people may Suspect they were shielding the criminals, ‘Talk a$ you the power in the world couldn't make’ them look upon the Tamm: frauds in any other thu @ local affair, they will nave none of it te ney understand full well that if such a state of affairs had been discovered in any other city in the Union tt might be regarded as a local affair. Indeed, I myself believe that if it had oc- curred in some other city—tor instance, in Cincin- nati or Washington—people would have so regarded it, and the thing woutd have been a local nine days’ wonder. But that is quite out of the question with New York, In the first place, it 1s the metropolis, and it Js for that reason more prominent in the eyes of the public. Then again there are so MANY OUTSIDE INTERESTS which centre in New York, and the commerce of the whole country depends so much upon the way things are conducted there, that it woulda be quite impossiple for annie: like that which has hap- eued to occur without exciting the entire country. But, above all, Tamma has of late years held such a sway, and her umbitioa has been kuown to reach so far beyond the limits of New York city, that the people of the other States had come to feel that she might one day, in her rapacity, lay as firm a grip upon them as she haa upon the metropolis and was supposed to have on- the Empire State. ‘The coun- try democrats, you showd know, can never be brought to believe that POLITICS AND CORRUPTION are necessary one to the other, When they run for office they do so for the honor of the thing, and when they vote the democratic or republican ticket Uhey do 30 because tuey are convinced they are do- ing right, not because they have been paid to vote so aad so, ‘The fact is, money cannot be used in the country as it ig used at elections in New York city. The country Leryn when they run for a local oilice, Know that the office cannot pay them, much less bring them a fortune, Let me show you in my own case how running for oflice in the country doesn’t pay. Iwas Mayor of this city (Buffalo) for two years. The salary was $1,600, yet it cost me not less than $10,009 each year. Indeed, - there is no- thing in the way of patronage or sinccures or any- thing of that sort in tue country districts to make the rural polifician HAN FOR 8PO0) KER TLS, The conseqhence is he is horrified when he hears of the terrible Way things havo been done in New York. Tne array of figures representing the mil- ions alleged to have been made by the “Ring” take his breath away, 0d when he hears the cry on ail sides among his ucighbors, ‘That is what you democrats are doing!’’ he naturally feels indignant, and resolves to do all tnat he can to show that the democracy do not countenance corruption in or out of office, It is this frame of mind in which the New York people will find the country portion of the Convention pexc week.”’ “Do you think Tammany will be admitted to the Convention at all?” “un that point I cannot give any very decidea opinion. Tne Convention will do its duty to New ork, and admit whatever delegation represents THE MASSES OF THE PEOPLE, and any delegahon coming tuere from New York must give indubitable proof that it really does rep- resent the great mass of the democratic voters be- lore it gels admission. It matters not under what ame the delegation may come, im my opinion i will be treated ali the same, The best thing that could be done would be for New York to send twen- ty-one good men, not chosen by any clique or fac- uon. If good democrats in the city really mean the reform they are talking about they can easily man- age 1t All that is necessary is for them to work harmoniously together. Let the various factions UNITE UPON GOOD MEN, 1n whom the people have contidence. Let the pri- maries be held as they are heid in the country—the Voters vol for whom they please. Good men thus elected will welcomed by the Convention; but any delegation that goes there as of old, simply representing and sent by a ring or @ Clique that set- Ued upon them as the delegation before any for- mula of a prumary election was had, will be tola to go about their business." ; “nen the Whole success of the party depends upon the action the Couvention will take as to ‘‘ammany and the sort of men New York sends asa delegation” You can rely upon this that the Con- “ixacuy, vention Will DENOUNCE THE TAMMANY RING openly, and as the very best evidence that they anean What they say they will, 1 think, Dominate Ottendorfer for Secretary of State. | If this will not be a crusher to Tammany 1 do not know what you cag cull it; for Ottendorfer not only denounced ‘!am- many at the citizens’ meeting, but, what is more, he has beea denouncing them in his paper ever since 1n & way that has won for him the respect and ad- uration of the country democrats, who feel, as he does, that Tammany must be crushed, and not be allowed any longer to do monstrous wrong and try Ww shieid itseif under the dag of the democratic party of tne State.’’ “Judging from what I knuw of the various politi- cal factions in New York city, Mr. Fargo, I soould hardly think they can be made to harmonize so as w send, as you suggest, twenty-one good, honest men to the Conventiun, who, instead of represent- ing either of tham in particular, will represent the reat mass of the Gemocratic voters in the metropo- iis. Now, taking it for granted that the factions, they have declared they will, will send each a dele- gation of its own, what then?” “Then the Convention will have 4 VERY KNOTTY 8KSIN to unravel; but, a8 I sald before, the country demo- crais will positively refuse to give their consent to tue admission of any delegation that does net represent the people. I see tnat the Germans, whe Ledwith , the O’Brien party and the Democratic inien all say they will send a delegation each, If they do so they will give tne Convention a great deal of work; but it may be that some kind of a compromise can be effecte that out of ali these delegations twenty- one men can be taken who will really represent tle mass of Lhe voters,”” “You think, then, that this delegation business settied sausfactorily aud a denunciation of Tam- once made by the Convention the party will ed next fall?” ae do. So jong as the party in the Convention de- nounces Tammany Hall and rejuses to afiliate with her THE PROPLE WILL BE SATISFIED that the party is all right on the record. If they do | tuts 1 don’t see why the party should be held re- | sponsib!e for the acuons of turee or four men.” “What if the various factions refuse to co-operate next election in New York and run diferent candi- ales?’ Well, if they do, then, there will be less chance of success. However, I think they'll ail vote the State ticket, nO matter What they May do in regard to | Candidates for the Senate and House. Of course, if they throw their votes ali round the country districts | cannot make up for the loss sufficiently to carry the stave. The republicans are fighting among them- selves, and if the democratic party united can’t whip the republicans divided agalust themseives Lney are not good for much,” “What do you think of Mr, Tilden’s circular to the democracy of the State?” “I think it has the true ring about it, and tells the exact truth about the way the republicans in the Legislature gave their support to the corrupt | Schemes by which the “Ring” were enabled to go | on rovbing the taxpayers,"” “And te address of the Committee of Seventy—I dare say you have reat that?” “Yes, 1 have just glanced it over. | something of that kind, for tue people to SEND NONE BUL HONEST, GOOD MEN to the Legislature wiil Ond a ready response in the heart of every country democrat, The fact 1s, tne democratic party in the country are determined thas none bat pure, good men shall be nominated. If the republicans do their duty in the matter aiso, the people will have reason to rejoice; for tuen, no mat- ler which party succeeds, there will be no corrup- tion, no robbery, no pilfering. And Itnink that there Is not a good democrat in the western part of this State who wonld not rather see an honest re- publican than a4 dishonest democratic Legislature in wer. “Do you think the democrats will carry both houses of the Legtslatare—that is, provided the Con- | Venton will denounce Tammany?’ “Well, 1d0 not think we will & the lower house, although {t 18 not improbable. e Senate I think we will get—that is, we'll have @ majority in i.” “Now, Mr. Fargo, do you candidly believe that the democracy bave @ good chance of carrying THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL BLECTION 1’ Mr. verge moved uneasily in his chair as this poser came forth He toyed with his pen for awhile with- out saying anything, but finally exclaimed, aa he threw,the holder on the aesk, far from bim— “That 1s @ hard question to answer. Besides, you know ‘he Presidential election 1s far off yet, and a great many poiltioal changes take place in the meauume that cannot now be foreseen. I think the chances of the agi winning are good,” “Have you an idea that these Tammany frauds will be brought up in the Presidential campaign and used a8 8 Weapon against the Lad “The repubjicans will doubtiess make all the capital out of them they can, butl think the people are wise enough to see thal tue party cannot be Jostiy hela ier ee for the doings of the few men who had such @ close corporation ofitin the metropolis. It may be (hat the effect of the dis- covery of the frauds wil be so lasting with many that their - VOTES MAY BR INFLUENCED by it, Dutd am of the opinion that these will be very few and far between. Indeed, [ tituk the people I expected A have no doubt its appeal frands committed by republican. omfcials who are in the employ of the dominant party and sustained by them. are constantly hearing of detaloations oy o! andl havenodouvt but that in times that the party tnat is not in power pays very little attention to the doings of the rty ip wer, sO lomg as they do not Become 60 Pangrant as to excite more than ordinary attention, Uf course there is often a deal of talk in the ni pers about this, that and the other malfeasance; but a few days pass by and the stoner lorgotten, and that’s the end of it. In all probability, when the present administration at ‘Washington goes out of power wreng doings that have been going ou for years wi!! then-be unearthed that will astonish le. Io fact, that’s the only way the wrong doiugs in official circles can be found out, after men have ceased to exist as ofloials by reason of & change fn the administration.” “You have heara, no doubt, of the talk avont call- ing on the federal government to supervise the elections in New York ?” “T have seen something about it in the newspa- pers, but I think it isall talk. I can’t conceive on what plea the general government can interfere, as there are no Congressmen or United States officers to be elected, If it should interfere it woula be a good thing for the democratic party, as the people in the country districts WOULDN'T STAND Tt, Democrats need never be afraid of losing anything by federal interference. It would only increase our vote in the country districts; for Americans— and foreigners in the country, for that matter, 10o— consider the tallot box something very sacred, and Ser dans want anybody to dictate to them how when and why they should vote.” It wa3 now late in the afternoon, and as a num- ber of gentlemen were walting in the oflice to see Mr. Fargo on business the interview was here brought to a close. A. P. LANSING. High Moral Character of the Country Demo- crain—Hlow the Contending Delegations Will Be Received—Tammany Tainted With Corruption—Delicate Trentment of Mr. Twecd—The Democracy May Still Carry the State. PITTSFORD, N. Y., Sept. 27, 1871. The deeper I dive into the country alstricts the more am [ convinced that New York city democratic politicians have always, and for a purpose, under- rated the leaders of the rural branch of the party in this State, Ihave made ita point during the past few days to stop for a few hours at little out of the way places, far off in the interior, away from the big cities, purposely to have @ free chat with the countrymen and get introduced to the local leaders, so a8 to ascertain from their own lips just what they think avout the Tammany troubles ana the compli- cations they may lead to, It has always been the custom for the metropos to sneer at the country politicians as a set of nobodies, who could be PULLED INTO THE TRACES by the mere flourish of a greerback or a parade of big words about what New York could do with them if she had a mind to; but I am forced tocome to quite a different conclusion. It is true that among the poliuictans and the wire-pullers of the country districts there are to be found a few men scatiered here and there who might safely and without any detriment to their characters be placed on the same footing in point of intelligence and respectability with that class of men in New York which has rep- resented the democracy of the city in the Legisla- ture and her ward councils for years past; but they are, 1 find, so far down in the scale of influence that It matters little to any of their neignbors what they are, Tney are the ‘blatherskites,” the loud- mouthers, the seedy vauriens of this and that vil- lage, whose only OREDIT 18 AT THE TAVERN, where it is very small, and punctually limited atthat every week. But when New Yorkers talk of the leaders as if they were nobodies—as if they were a set of unshaven, uashorno, down-in-the-heel beggars, who are always glad to take a $100 bill for doing the Girty work of the clty folks—they make a very-great mistake. The men who occupy the same relative posi- ton in the-country as the leaders in New York in the “provincial towns” are, I find, gentlemen in every sense of the word, and oe who is atall familiar with the character and standing of the men who are allowed to swagger their slangy way as men of influence in the party in New York city, who, in the majority of cases could not passa decent examination in a primary school, cannot but be struck by the difference between them and even the village leaders tn the country, Indeed I had pretty much the same opinion of the country poll- ticlans as most New Yorkers before I began to travel among them, and my contact last winter with the rural members in the Legislature did not go to change my opinion in any considerable degree; but I must say now that New York has an entirely false opinion of the class I refer to. Ihave found them to be men of education; not always of wealth, but always standing high witn their neighbors as MEN OF UNIMPEACHABLE CHARACTER and morals, They do not lead by trickery or device, by disuibuting in a cniunng way the spoils of pub- lic office among the rank and file, nor py assuming @ lordly sway over thelr fellows by reason of their high connections or thelr aristocratic standing in the community. The fact is, they do not rule, but they lead by the common consent of their neigh- bors, who, having full confidence in their wisdom and honesty, say tacitly, “Go om and we will follow you.” Ifind this to be the case in every place I have visited, no matter how large the place or how small, THE LEADERS AND THE PEOPLE are bound together by a mutual confidence which to a New York city democrat would seem a “risky” thing for the leaders, but which in the end is lar more powerful than could be a leadership by dis. honest machinations and tricky conniving by a close corporauion which uses its followers as a carpenter uses his tools—jnst as he pleases so long as they serve his purpose. At the same time, les me add, there is no such thing. as a blind following of the jeaders, at which , no doubt, a ward politician in New itr hg cry out in wonderment When the leaders a BEST FOR THE PARTY to take a certain course they advise, not dictate to their followers, that such and such @ course 1s bést to pursue, Ii the advice, alter being again aud aga in put in its pest shape, 1s found to be uupalata- bie, 1t 18 not forced upon unwilling ones, and tne leaders fall 1u with the prevailing opinion. This 1s no Jeadersnip, some Will doubtless exclaim. But in my Opinioa 1 1s, and of the right sort. Jt is an lmpossi- bility, under the circumstances, for a ring to have @ Say in public affairs, and the rank and file, in the long run, have the decisive word in everything, though they are at all times ready to take good ad- vice, wherever it comes from. ‘The locaiicaders in Ue small Villages are quite a study sometimes, and I wili say ttin all fastice that what I say refers to both parties—nameiy, (hat the New York city poll- Ucians, who profess to carry their “deestricts” m their breeches pockets, are nothing to be com- pared with them in point of intelligence and good, solid common sense. I stepped for a@few hours the otuer day, at alittle place calicd Medina, end was introduced to a middle-aged man who, 1 Was told, was the head and front of the de- Tmoocracy in Uie disirict. Le was brown as a verry, and Wore an oid, siouch hat aud a coat that must have seen a dozen winters. Tue legs of his pauta- lyons were STUFFED INTO H13 BOOTS, and he looked for ali the world like the Yankee farmer as typitied in the rubbish plays thal certam catenpenny scribvlers love so dearly to portray. When my eyes fell upon him first and 1 heard who he was, New Yorker gx¢ I naturally said to myself, “Ho's on a par with the New York ward politician anynow.” But how quickly did J change my opinion when, alter being iutroduced to lim, he began to talk of the prospecis of the party amd whe didicul- ties it was laboring under. 18 language was homely and his comparisons rather quaint ad laughable at times, but he spoke in @ way that evinced such ativrough knowieage of everything past and present that related to the pollucal of the country that I was quite taken aback. dare say, if Le were SENT TO ALBANY, one of the metropolitan weil-dressed, diamond- bedizzened numbskulls who represent her every year, and who cau never get up in theif seats and speak @ senience of twenty words correctly, and Who half the time dou’t know how to vote untll they get the word from an appointed leader, couid think of demeaning htinselt to ve seen tn the street With this intelligent “‘vackwoods’ american. And, let me say, this man oO! the “backwoods” has his hundreds of prototypes in every village you stop at, aod more intelligence in his litiie finger than can be nd in nive-teuths of wie promment ward poli- Ucians in New York made into @ bundle. This much for what { have so far seen of the underrated coun- trymen. It may be that at the next Convention it will be found that tuey or the men they send there bE pg Daa be Bett and wiat is wrong roadcloth Outside and a brat ortly after | arrived at Rochester last ni came across Mr. A. P.jLansing, of {rie county g prominent lawyer, who ls recognized in the Western counties a8 one of the leaders of the democratic party. Thad endeavored to meet hum while | was aL Malo; but a lawyer ts pretty much like the Irishman’s fea wien you want to reach him, and 80 1 had several useiess journeys about the town, bh Rae of them bringing me at its end jost a mins ule of 99 alter whe object of my search had ‘gone out, sit.” 1 100k a siro.l last evening down (o Cou- Tess Hall aud had the good fortune to meet him us he was coming oul of the dining room, Would have beter reason to be uundiul of ine | lovking as ines Gnd a# bewrty a8 tuyugh (he big cases in the Supreme Court had never ven hima moment’s anxiety. ‘The prospect of ns tg Vonven' said he to me, on thesudject, “looks very zioomy, Indeed, I should not be surprised if she were NOT ALLOWED A SEAT AT ALL.” “Do you think there would be a big row in conse- quence ¥? “There might be if Tammany showed any fight. However, you can make up your mind to this one thing, ana that is that the Convention will act i it delagation or delegations that a a a my opinion, act with discretion and with a view to the best interests of the party. It will exert itself to harmonize all differences, with out in ay wise Sco reprise itself with Tammany. As far as I have been able to learn the country mem- bers are determined to denounce the corruption that bas been exposed im New York, and to de- nounce itin a manner that will leave nothing for the republicans to desire in that respect. The great trouble will be, if several delegations como from New York, to settle matters so as to have New York really and traty represented, and not to recognize any one clique that will claim, alter the manuer of the three tailors of Tooley street, that tney and they alone are the only Simon Pure representatives of the people, Mere assertion on this point and SHOW OF STRENGTH ON PAPER ‘Will not be taken as positive fact by the Convention. My advice to the New Yorkers would be to ay all their little dificulttes before they come to tie Convention, for they will have to be settled anyhow, lerly as could easily treat are Willing todo the very best thing for the party they can do under the circumstances.” “Now, supposing by some means Tammany et control of the Convention?” “That will be an impossibility. The country members will have no Resist, Tammany even attempts anything of the kind, to make short work of her. “But she might succeed in getting suMictent con- bs ss @ portion of the Conventiou to defy the other “if she should—which I think is about as likely as that she could elect of her own accord any ticket she wanted to—the country wouldn’t put up with it, and the party would be beaten at all points at the clection,”? “Then there can be no mistake about the feeling that will be expressed concerning fammany in the Convention?” “None whatever, Ifshe comes with a delegation that has really been elected by a majority o1 tho democratic voters, well and go But that must not be all, She must rem: and, even if admitted, kee she is very fortunate in hav! and act pape oe lt may be that, no matter what Kind of a delegation she sends, if itdoes not happen to be sometiung extraordinary in the way of a real representation of the New York voters, and not, mind you, of any particular class of voters, but the whole, she may bo denied admittance; for THE TAINT OF CORRUPTION about her is so great ia the eyes of the country that it may be a bar against ner altogether.”” “bo you think that a denunciation of Tammany by the Convention 1s a necessity for the party in order to insure success at the polls?” “Most assuredly; but it will not be done on the ground of its veing a necessity. It will be done be- Cause the party is opposed to corruption and will in no manner countenance it, The feeling against Tam- Faraty such in the country that if she should be able by any means, no matter how apparently just, to have the doings of the Convention looked upon as her work, there is not, 1 believe, one democrat in on Rp the counties in this section of the State who will not vote the republican ticket, ‘This is my can- -did opinion,” “Ig there not @ possibility of there being a bolt if Tammany should get even a partia: centrol?’? “Jt is quite possible there might be, but I think the voters would show their indignation by going OVER TO THE OTHER PARTY. However, if the proceedings should take auch a turn as to be highly offensive to the country democrats, and anything could appear in the Convention like a strong opposition to@ denunciation of the corrup- tion in New York, @ bolt 13 not only possible but quite probable. ButI really apprehend nothing of the kind, for I cannot possibly see how any body of men calitng themselves democrats can sustain cor- ruption and malfeasance in ofice. To dosoin my mind would be an act of sheer madness, When I say Tammany is to be denounced [ mean the party which has been roven. to be corrupt in its _ dealings in the city govern- ment. Of course matters may so turn that the name Tammany may be taken up by good men after the, guilty parties have been set aside, but—” and here Mr. Lansing gave me a look which spoke volumes—“‘I don’t believe you will tint many good men who will be willl to take the namo simply forthe name. Why, talking of the Conven- tion not denouncing Tammany or giving way to her in any way 8o as to allow ber an important Voice in the Convention, WHAT WOULD THE PEOPLE THINK of it? And when I say the people i mean the aemo- crats, who are, as @ party, heart and Boul opposed to corruption, You saw that account in the papers the other day about how one Cuyler (wasn’t that the name?), a lumberman, did work and farnished materials to the city government or some department of it for which he charged, { think, $43,000 or thereavonts, aud the voucner in the Comptroller’s oftice showed it wo be over $400,000, The ditference between $43,000 and $400,000 went into some person or per- 80n’s pockets evidently who Was or were not en- titled tott. How 1n the face of a thing ike that, so plain to everybody, how can the Convention do otherwise than denounce the parties who allowed such a thing tobe done? If the party should not take the matter in hand and treat it as It en it might as well go to work and put at the he; of its teket some BURGLAR CONVICTED OF BIS CRIME, and who 1s, or ought tobe, if he isn’t in State Prison.” “You say, Mr. Lansing, that the;diMculties about the delegation may be harmonized in New York, and that Tammany may have good enough sense to take @ back seat, Are you of the opinion that Mr. ‘Tweed's speech at the Tammany Hall General Com- Inittee a few days ago looks like harmonizing?” “[ read that to-day in the papers, and I must con- fess it does not look as though Tammany had given up all hope of ruling. It looks like A DEFIANCE, and J am very sorry for it. But Tammany will be saught a lesson at the Convention if she attempts to overawe the country members, and if she ts put out she will never again be admitted as a delegation from New York city—never!"? . “Mr, Tweed willran for Senator in his district, and, of course, be elected. .Do the country demo- crats think he ought to runt”? “I believe that the great majority of them and many who call themselves iriends of Mr. Tweed personally would rather he would not ran, ‘They think it would be far better if he stayed home, for Ire wiil be of no good at Albany to the party. He willbe amarked man as it were, because of the way. his name has been bandied about im the charges made against the ‘Ring.’ I know he claims that in a court of law he is ready to PROVE HIS INNOCENCE of all the charges made against him. This is all very Well as far as it goes, bul the knowledge of that fact would not abate one jot of the feeling which will be entertained against him if he goes to tne Senate by the country uemocrats. Whatever he may do or say in the Senate will be looked upon as sus- picious, no matter how good his motives may be. Uls presence there would lead to this:—The country democrats, kdowing the sentiments of their constit- uents, might reiuse to co-overate with hun in any measure he might favor or originate, fearful lest they might, too, be regarded with suspicion, All this might be exceedingly unjust to Mr. Tweed, who says he is Innocent, and can prove himself so le- gaily, of all the charges made agains: him; but that, as I said before, would not, in my opinion, change th aspect of affairs I have just descrived, Under al! the circumstances, then, if he really has THE GUOD OF THE PARTY at heart, he would do well to remain at home. This seems to me the opinion of the country democrats, 80 jar as I am advised, und, as you asked me avout the thing, I give you just what J have learned on the subject.’ “Will the democrats in your opinion carry the State this fall 7”? “I think they will, The only obstacle in our way is this Tammany business, and when the Conven- ion takes @ bold stand and shows the people that the party will tolerate nothing of the kind in its midst the campaign willend in @ triumph for our side. I have very little doubt about our carrying the State ticket through easily, but of course it will not be such an easy thing to CARRY THE LEGISLATURS, because there are always local divisions and dif- ficulties Which interfere with both parties, no mat- ter how the State ticket Foes, The great contest ‘wiil be over the Senate, and we may by hard work secure a majority. In this disurict,; Which was re- presented by Jarvis Lord the last two years, we will be again successful. ther he or his son will ron, The former doesn’t care about going. again, but I think the party will insist upon gol In the district last year represent by Lewis the demo- crats will win I think. Jokm Ganson will be their candidate, so the talk runs, and as he has a-great many strong friends in the opposite party, and ag he js altogether a very popular mag, | Lave no doubs of lug election if nominated”? This ended the conversalion, Shortly after bid- ding Mr. Lansing goodby | met a well known poil- lictan from the Saratoga Senatorial district, who in- formed me that the ‘'ammany frauds had “RAISED THE DBVIL’? there, and that he was very much afrat: what the Convention might do in rej to them, that the district would elect a republican, It willbe remembered that this district was formerly repre- sented by Blood, who died a and that the democrats, having & majority without that district being represented, never allowed the vacancy to be led, GOVERNOR SEYMOUR, Not Very Well Posted About Manicipal Poli- ical Corruption Not the Crime ofa no matter @ Good Temper. SyRAcvsR, S¢pl. 29, 1871, It was my Intention on leaving Rochester to go to Oswego, where I had made arrangements which would have aided me materially in ascertaining the exact state of feeling among the democrats in that section of the State concerning THE POLITICAL SITUATION and the prospects Of the party there, but I had to Change my plan of cempaign at (ue lagt moMgae ernor Looks When T learned that Governor Seymour was toattend some fair or gathering of some kind of the “big iajuns” of Onondaga county on Thuraday, and, believing that the Governor must by this time have formed a very decided opinion about the Tammany Hall turmoil and what the party ought todo under the present circumstances, and that consequently he would be @ very good man to get hold of, I toox the first train I could get bound eastward. It began to rain shortly after we bad left the city behind us, and this, added to the fact that the cars crawled along at A SNAILS PACE and seemed to stop for breath, as it were, at every cross road made the journey anything but pleasant, Besides, the car for a seat in which I had bought a “first class” (!) ticket was worn out as to cushions, dirty in the last degree as to the floors and windows and was filled with a crowd of countrymen return ing from the county fair, many of whom were un- der the mfuence of liquor and who amused themselves by eating peanuts and shouting, every now and then, at tno tops of their voices to keep their spirits up. However, this crowd | was thus thrown in with, much against my own sweet will, which, by the by, didn’t happen to be very swect about that par- ticular time, was not without its profit for me, a3 1t before long gave me a peep into the country repub- ican camp I had not expected so soon. A few copies of a Rochester evening paper by some accl- dent or other got into the hands of one or two of the more respectabie looking of my fel- low passengers, who’ were addressed as ‘Squire’? and “Judge” by the men about, who seemed to be quite intimate with them, and thus for tne first time did they learn that the Fenton-Greeley -folks from New York had left the Convention in disgust. Had you the space to spare I would very much like to give you a detailed description of the scene im the car when the news was annouuced:—of the “Squire” standing under THE DIMLY BURNING LAMP, with the paper in one hand, from which he read aloud for the edification of his hearers; of the groups that were standing about him with open eyes and months, swallowing, with an eageruess that was really laughable, every word that fell from the reader’s lips; of the drunken fellows on the out- skirts of the inner crowd of the ‘* Squire’s” friends, sitting on the backs of the seats and making des- Pperate etforts to get sober enough to be able to un- derstand what all the thing was about, Each one seemed to feel a sort of personal interest that quite surprised me about what the “ bolters’’ had done atf- ter they had left the Convention, and I was exceed- ingly astonished at the intensity of feeling manifested at, what every one after the reading-dis- covered to be & gross outrage. There was not one man of the whole lot who was'not of the one opinion about what the result would be next election, if something were not done speedily to make repara- tion for the outrage. I managed to get into conver- sation with the “Squire” who had read the news to his fellows, and found him to be a very intelligent sort of a man, who has a good farm near Savannah, afew miles west of this city. “We are certain to lose the election if this thing is not righted,” said he to me, excitedly. ‘I think that the majority of the country people are really antagonistic to the Custom House gang, and the way they have choked our friends in the Convention will teil against them.”” I asked him whether, in his opinion, the Fenton-Greeley men would, out of spite, vote the democratic ticket. To this he gave A SAVAGE NEGATIVE, e. ‘and added, “But we won’t vote at all.” You would be astonished it you knew how bitter the feciing 1s of men of the ‘“Squire’s” stamp on this subject and how extensively 1t prevails in the Interivr. Atleast I judge so from the fact that nine out of every ten eed in the little villages on the line of the Central Road between Erie and Rochester whom I gos into conversation with at the stations invelghed as bliterly against the Conkling party and threat- ened as direly as did my indignant friend the “squire.” But to Goverbor Seymour. When I Teacned here no one had seen him about. after midnight I was trying to make tp my mind Whetner it wouid be best to start out bright and early 1n the morning and hunt him up among the Tndlans, when I hoard he nad just arrived and “GONE UP STAIRS.” Now, as ithappens that the house was still pretty full of delegates who had not yet determined to go home where they Lelonged, { Knew “up stairs’! was very far up indeed and very uncertain to be got at beside; so I quietly went to bed and woke up this morning just in time to see the Governor before be started out amoung is copper-lued Onondaga friends. J found him seated at a table in the main parlor of the hotel, hurriediy writing out the “re- marks’? he was to.make to the Indians. Inever saw him looking betver, and, judging from his general appearance and the way he talked durtug the con- versation we had together, I think those extraordi- nary people who have been talking so. much of late about his “declining health” had botter get some more fitting victim if they ever hope to chrouicle his demise within @ half ceatury to come, “lam just preparing the remarks I am going to make to the Indians to-day, so that the reporters will have no trouble,” sutd ue pleasantly, after I had taken aseat, “I speak very rapiily, and they like to have the remarks written out for them. 1 dishke golug about deiivering ‘addresses,’ as they are Called, mn Us way; but the Indians came ‘down to Sveerileld and they insisted upon mv coming, so I couldn’t refuse them—{ really coulda’t. You can’t explain to these Indians as you can to other people the why and wherefore you don’t want to accept of AN INVITATION TO SPEAK. ‘We want you to come,’ they say, no matter what you say, and that’s the way of it.’’ “I ain sorry to take up your time, Governor,” I sald finally, after we nad chatted awhile about the Indians, “but 1 am very anxious to know Just what you think of the political trouoies in New York. I am travelling throagh the interior of the State with @ view of oper what the country democrats think about them, and what action they propose to eee if any, im regard to them, as far as you “As for myself,’ was the Governor's reply, as he bent over te table and wrote a few words between the lines of the manuscript before him, “I have con- versed with but few people on the subject, and am not now prepared to say authoritatvely what our people in the titerior ‘ntend, to do. The fact 1s, have Rid engaged for some time past * takeu Up most of my time, 4 luctantly yesterday, a3 I work completed, ay ie: am to see the The house 1s not covored yet, and you know that when the weather looks threateuing a man likes to Know that he nas a roof over his head,’’ ieee the Governor sald this his eyes gilisteued wit aus A CHILD-LIKE DELIGHT, while his face beamed all over with smiles, just as though he had never had a home of his owa in all his life, and was now, for the first time, to realize all the happiness of such a blessing. “You must certalaly take @ goo deat of interest in every political movement that ts going on in our State at present 1? “I take an interest in the welfare of the demo- cratic Party. Talways have and always wili; bat, as I said before, I have been so busy for somo months back that [ have had a great deal cise to think about. Why, I have not read a daily paper to two months,’? “Bat you have been kept advised, undoubtedly, about the troubles in New York?” “Ihave heard them talked about, and of course, from ali I have heard and know of tue subject, have formed my opinions, but I am not in a position to be able to state what other men may think of them in the interior of this State.’? “What is your opinion on the subject, Governor, and what do you believe the Conveation will do about ity? - The Governor here laid down his pen, and, push- ing his chair back from the seat as if ho haa finally Inade up his mind to come to the point 1 was alter without any further delay, replied:— «What the Convention will do about itis beyond my power to tell. I have not had any conversation with any of the delegates on the subject, nor with any of the men in the interior who have better opportuni- ties for ascertaining the PREVAILING SENTIMENT OF THE DELEGATES in regard to the matter than I have had so far, and Who might be able to foretell witn some degree of certainty what the action of the Convention will be, My Opinion is that the Convention must meet this question of corruption in a manly way. Noth- ing should be done harshly; for I do not think anything is ever gained by harsh measures when they can be dispensed with. What I mean by this 1s that the Convention should not take too narrow a view of the subject 1¢ will have to deal with, and while patie the vials of its wrath upon the heads of the men Who are charged wit CORRUPTION IN NEW YORK lose sight of its underlying causes, 1 do not think that the men against whom the charges are made have been guilty, if they are guilty, because they or | because were democrats they were the particular men they are, Nor do 1 believe that politics were the Cause of tho corruption. In my opinion the cause of the a =) in New York is the same which has given rise to such appalling eat) ractices and the perpetration of the most gigantic frauds in the administration of departments under the gene- ral goverument, and this cause 18 THE SPIRIT OF EXTRAVAGANCE and waste engendered by our late war. Look for instance at the corruption In Wall street, evidences of what every nov’ and then are brought to light; look at the corraption 1n our commercial circles—in fact, in all departments of business, not only in New York put all over thevountry. And surely all this cannot be laid to politics, Had other men been in the place of the men now arraigned, whether demo- crats or republicans, they would have met with the same temptations and in the Jong run probably not be considered any better. Everybody lu these days is filled with the idea of amassing great wealth, and money seems so plentiiul that dollars counted only by hunfreds are not held at thelr true value, These men in New York were id @ position where MONEY FLOWED IN MILLIONS to them; and It they gave way lo temptattor: they did 80, not because of their politics (ior What le (berg ta Vue pruaciplod gf tae dewmocradle party, that teaches disni at they fell aa bya are failing fa all ape = otims of ses, W: a travagance, which were engenderea by the war. It ia for this Feason that I say men should not act 100 harshly; bat’—and here the Governor's eyes flashed fire and, his voice became stern as he uttered “the guilty must be punished. We mi those who give way to temptation, but where guilt {3 proves our feelings should not interfere with exact Justice, ‘nO more than angry with our Judgment *You think, then, Governor, that the Convention will meet this question of corruption in a ‘manly way’ b; AY ppnouxcrna TAMMANY HALL 1" “My opinion is that it should meet the question Tel ae fairly and calmly, and not be carried away by any =~ hue and cry that’ may be set_up for evil purposes. The democratic party of the State is a party which advocates reform and economy, and never finches from its duty at any crisis, and if there is any por- tion of it thatis bad or that 13 hurtful to its exist ence it will lop 1t off.” “Then should be sent adrift? Is that the idea #”” “Tt a man discovers that he is afflicted with a sore that is CERTAIN TO SPREAD DISEASE throughout his system, if he 13 @ wise man he will not aelay io having the sore cut out. It is better tha! & person suffering irom a telon should have the aftlicted fuger cut of than oF reason of delay have to have his arm amputated. The democratic party, no ee can live aud countenance corruption.” “Do you believe that Tammany will be admitted to the Convention ?”” “That, of course, will depend upon circumstances entirely; but I have already said that 1 have no id¢ whatever what the Convention will do. As regard: this particular thing especially I know nothing post- Is is my opinion that the Conven; uve. tion + will act out its part manfully, and that every delegate will strive to discharge his duty to his constituents faithfully, regardiess of every other consideration. The Qunvention has every- thing in its own hands, and, I trust, will place suck men in the field as will command the respect and conildence of ALL GOOD CITIZENS of both parties,” Se it do this and not denounce Tammany ?” “It will, doubtiess, take action about these mate ters in New York lu & Way which will be satisfac tory to the people. It will certainly give the people on it hat the ora the ta to understand ti arty of State is a pure and honest party, and is a itagonis- (ic to corruption in whatever quarter it may be found. In my opiniou the causes which gave rise to the corruption in New York should be denounced; for those same causes are breeding corruption broadcast over the land, It ts A DUTY WE OWE : to our country, that stepa should bo taken to stent the tide, aud nothing @a our part should be left un- done that can be done to avert the ruin which tt 1s sure to entail Lf It saee) rently resistiess cov.se for any great lengtn of ume hereaiter, it wi! not simply do for men to point out where the comes from; every citisen must, as fa~ #8 it les in his power, GIVE A HELPING HAND in the work that is to be done.”’ “Now, Governor, I dare say that the repnblicans, No natter what a Dold stana against corruption the Rochester Convention may take, will ase the ‘New York corruption business as a weapon against the party in the coming cam| = “That isto be expecied, but [do not think it will be of any avall so. Jong as the party puts its foot down: firmly and declares that it will tolerate no corrup- tion in its midst. Indeed I, for one, think that the troubles in New York will eventuate vo the benefit of the party in course of time. The fact is that our arty bas been endeavoring for years to make the Thagees and the administration of our government the controiling issues to be diseussed in the cam- paigns, but the other side never would accept the offer, They continu pW their ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE WAR : long gone and past, and to endeavor to excite the anlinosities of the people by dragging up old war rejudices that'should be buried; but nowthey have hemselves made the question of corruption the issue before the people. What they. would not do. when challenged before, y now de by themselves giving the challenge. Thus, you see, ’ on im its present appa- « ‘ this is a great point gained, for the whole question ~ of corruption will taus be opened for discussion be- fore the people, not simply corruption in New York ct'y or any other city, or any particular part of the State, put corruption everywhere, in all depart- ments of government, be they in a town, village or county, or in the administration of the affairs of the State or the nation. [will admit that the has already received @ hard blow—call is A STAGGRKING BLOW ifyou will, It 1s unjust, however, that it should be made to feel it, because the party is not guilty of corruption. But it will recover from the blow. It can- not be heid responsible for what certain individuals oN do in any certain locality wno claim to belt toit. Iftue party boldly denounce ovary species corruption it may discover in ité midst ana cut off whatever it finds bad about it, everything will be” | well, for the people will not listen to.senseless cries that have no meaning. ‘Then, again, as a party, if the issue in the Presidential campaign be the ques- lion of corruption, we will nave an immense advan- tage from the fact that we are not in power, and the other side will be put upon the defensive. We have nad @ war and we have got a debt, The war is over, but the debt Is a thing of tho present, and so tt will be no use from this out for the republicans to call ‘COPPERHEAD’ and dragup the prejudices of no use for either side to for the one to ‘Well, if steal here you steal You claim to be ood here, we are good there.’ All‘that will not suf. ice. What the people will want willbe facts to show just how matters stand—which party, as @ party, is the pa dies honest, economical govern- mept, and which is the worthler, therefore, of the support of the people.”” Sheed “Are you of the opinion, Governor, that the Con- yention at Rochester wili have a preference for amy one delegation from New York, provided more than one comes?’ “Ishould judge that whateyer delegation come@ ‘With the best evidence of representing the people will be preferred; but what the Convention ought to do Is to act fairly and impartially, do exact jas lice to every one, regardless of prejudice or The worst icature about delegates to a convention generally 1s that they get QBRTAIN THEORIES into their heads and have their minds all made up upon certain things before they arrive at the Con. vention. This is the fruitful source of a great deal of trouble, not to say injustice. The best way to do would be for every delegate to go into the Conven- tion with a firm uetermination to do what is right im everything, ta mete out exact and even justice to Pct bee A 4nd not to take anything for granted be- forehan l names; we of Wednesday last, Governor 7” The Governor put en his spectacies at this, ther looked towards the window im tnen turned towards your correspond- @ broad smile, ace evident hard effort to conceal it, crept gradually over his — don’t know that it would be respectful to ny kind of @ smile on an ex-Governor’s. face @ grin, but if the ex-Governor had not been a governor I would certainly describe the smile 5 speak of as 4 BROAD GRIN. * Had a s@lentific analyzer of grins, broad ‘and narrow, been present, he might have been abie, na doubt, as Mr. Seymour's face was turned toward the window, to tell to @ dot exactly what the gentleman’s thoughts were about; but not being; scientific enough on the score of smiles myself, gave up the efort as @ futiie strain of mind, although I half suspected all the while that the Governor was thin! whata Dice thing the Republican Convention had done for his party, However, the grin, though notiong of duration, and the Governor Plied to my question as follows:— “I really do not know much about what they did at that Convention. You see that paper over there (pointing to a Syracuse daily which lay upon a sofa Dear by); I found it in here and just glanced at the proceedings, but not sufictently to learn much of the detatis, I understand they had quite an excite Ing time and that there was a difficulty about the New York and Kings county delegations. What the Tesult of it all will be I cannot even attempt to fore tell. There seems to be a great deal ot bitter will be to OUR ADVANTAGE.” “What do vou tnink, Governor, of the prospects of the democrats corny the State this Tall isd “Well, I really donot know much about what the rospects are, You see | have been at home build- ing so much. I should judge, however, from all E hear, that we have nothing to fear. ‘The action of the Rochester Convention in relation to the various subjects which will come up before 1 Will, of course, shape matters definitely.” A gentioman here entered the room and an- Nounced that he had a carriage in readiness to take the Governor over to the Indian reservation, where- upon your correspondent rose, and, after thanking him for his courtesy, withdrew. JOHN A. GREEN AND JUD@) COMSTOCK. Mr. Green Handles the Guilty Sachems Withe out Gloves—A Good Deal of Very Plain Speaking—Hard on Uoffman—Tammany “Rounders” to be Kept Ont of the Convene tton—Judge Comstock Thinks the Charges of Fraud Established=Tammany to be Refused Admission to the Conveation—“Let There Be a Row, if There Must Be”? Syraccsp, Sept. 30, 1871. The presence of ex-Governor Seymour at the Vane derbilt House Was of good service to me yesterday) The prominent politicians who got wind of his arrt- val in town came to the hotel to pay their respects, ana I was thus enabled, without undergoing a tramp through unknown streets in @ disagreeable rain storm, In search of the notables who are supposed to know a thing or two avout what fate Tammang, is to get at the Rochester Convention, to fad the gentlemen I desired to talk with within a few stepa of my own room. Among others whom I had tha pleasure of meeting were General Jonn A. Green and Judge Comstock. The former has, been ®& leading politician in the western portion of the State for twenty years, and he is as well known throughout the length and breadth of evory interlor | oouuty as Governor Seymour uimecle Le wields @ beer ye Tt will be. | ari a ’ { | { < ‘ rk on Le sides, and, of course, If this continues, i§+ “analyte * 4 ¥ + “What do you think of the Republican Convention ~*