The New York Herald Newspaper, March 28, 1866, Page 9

SUPPLEMENT TO THE HERALD. ee os es NEW YORK, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 1866. As to the first point you make, I do not know that I have ly prefer of hostilities than it is now; at this time it seems to be | about the substance of the interview, Mr. Lincoln givin, sent the notices in an unexceptionable form, unless the | for him, in his discretion, to direct the Judge, Marah: them before; over heard any peace speak pes it; I never heard the | subsiding. to Mr, Baldwin no pledge and no promise, and akiog announcement of the subject of Dr. Vermilye's addroas | and District Attorney of ‘such district to ‘attend at mucl ‘or the mon, Ents sere rated; have GRNBRAL LEB REPUDMATES THE CHARGS OF CRURLTIRS TO | no olf'rof any sort. Mr. Baldwin visited Mr. Seward | was exceptionable. Nay, after the morning service last | place within the district and for such time as he ins: before, and of UNION PRISONERS, the same afternoon, and found him extremely earnest in ‘he told me that the Doctor had his address | des gnate, for the parpose of the more arrost a0 Sabbath, By Mr. Howard—Q I will put one question to you to | the desire to settle the matter, and apparently shrinking | ready, and would be present to deliver it, and wished | trial of persona charged with « violation of this act; aut 5 which you may respond or not, as you please, I wish to | from the idea ot a clash of arma, Mr Baldwin went on | me te prontre 0 Yoporter; that the Gocnatiigs might be | it hall be the ‘duty Of every judge or other officer, wh “rk NORTH GENERODY. inquire whether you had any Knowledge, while you | to Richmond and reported to the gentlemen who had | printed verba'im. : Any such roquisition shall be received by him, to ‘atten Phy weastenen tecl down pt | were in command at Richmond, of thy cruelties prac- | sent hima, Now, it may be, as you intimate In your facetious | a the place and for the time th designated. q e result, wa are ae tised towards the Union prisoners at Libby prison and Further on in his testimony he added that he under- | editorial of two-day, that Dr. Vermilve and myself are See. 10. That it aball be lawfu the frestdent of th@ > $e ees abee of circumstances? forth Bello Isle? A, I never knew that any cruelty was prac- | stood Mr. Lincoln had given a somewhat different both United 8 nen oy ; . ditt 1; but If wo are, then Mr. Kimball has cajolod | United States, or such persons ashe may ampowor f b any rate tised, and I have no reason to bellove that It was prao- | of the interview, ropresonting that he hat off red, us ag ‘AL any rate, that supposition will formd all i | that purpose, to employ such part of the land or nay Paying aed; T can believe and I haa reason to beige brie | Convention would adjourn sine die, to witha fooling on my part towards Dr, Vermilye, and will allow | forces of the United States of of the militia as @hail b y have been experienced among the prisoners, | from Sumter aud Pickens, “L’am a clear,” said Mr. | me atill to extend to hit a standing inv! t prevent the violation aud epforee the d & es Necessary, execution of this act. able becanso I Know that provisions and shelter wuld not be | Baldwin, “in my recollection as it is possible to be that | m: it wt th he pl th inion that generosity | provided for them. : he made no such sugzestion as I understood it, apd said oes normon or widrem on vitapuat exclunveness Ske, 11, That upon all questions of law arising in an of the South woald be tho @ Were you not aware that those prisoners were dying | nothing from which I could infor it.” on Seriptural grounds omy." Such an Cause under the pro visions of this act, a tual appeal a un- good opinion? A. Yes, | from cold and starvation? A. I was not, Mr. Jony Miyon Borrs gave his version of the inter. | herby renewed, and until he chooses to aceapt it I think | be taken to th preme Court of the United States Mr. Howard—I dew re that you shall speak mind } view, us it was related to him by Mr. Lincoln, He says v fully and freely on this subject, for it is -tocon- | that on Sunday afternoon, April 7, 1861, boing then it LBB Bsr By Mr, Howard—Q I understand you to say generally | ceal from you the fact. that those scenes havdoreaed a | Wash'uston, ho received an Rain. then 's | meaty, pale, nh Cometics for hin to cay 28 Uitle se hat you had no approheasitu of any combluation among | sad feeling in the hearts of the people at the North. A. | that ho would be glud 10 ase him during’ the vente: ue Ye eae! eee es THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY. Thao: no’ toonon- tn Sneswun to ttlok | grisceera: exeops thaw thotware ancoeremOa tua aed |,9nd eained imconnenees ia Me eee | Manceae, 1908" * Hos. ARMITAGE, eg on hI e soners, exce; 1080 were on remained in conversati h ” H ” PF pattie; them it was my business 10 send to Biahmond’ | ‘seven u'clook “unlil eleven o'clock aiae cry i Sonpien: Westies Me. 40, Batoree ch ie ks a1 2 is you heard that subject talked! over among | to tho proper officer, who, was then the Provost Marshal | Mr. Lincoln related. tho particu! mg r itiolanst "A. Noe air, Lhave not; Tbave’|'Geueral; {a recard (othelr duposition afterwards {had | Baldwin sibetantiaty as foliowanes © ce Vite OF Me THE CIVIL RIGHTS BILL. matter even suggested. no ; Pnever gave an order about it; it was en- | “Oo, Mr. Baldwin,” said Mr. Lincoln, “why did you ie ee 4 tirely in the hands of the War Department. not come sooner? I have been’ waiti a 4 pothetea ate) og things. |G” And not ia your Hands? ‘AP Not in taine. some ot solr mantle ora, Malting and expecting | The .RIT! as Tt Paused Both Houses of Con- tive government of the United States Did these sicenee come at all to your knowledge? | me for more than a week past. T had a most important | gemcoy 1. ‘That all pethne born in the Unite t States jected the right of oorchat monet ed ne Bog py ig Hres faba mute 40. Be} Tad heat psetinar wih tly — to you, and 1 am afraid yoo beve | and not subject pang dinsigne Donen, canlediog Indians man, &e. ] the sam ‘ tye sey av edger gh ne The following is Senator Dooltttio's iN Yooking to 4 cress should exist here entarta'ning e political | (it was mere hearsay) that statements had beet eto | now. We have in Fort Sumter, with Major Anderson, opinions, thus presenting to the once rebel States the | the War Department, and that everything had about elvhty men, and I learn from Major Anderson that Me» Begs Mon ages = enforcement of the constitutional amendment abolixhin, opportuni to relieve them that ‘could be done; even, doaity, so far | his provisions are nearly exhausted, I have not only | sinvery or invoindtas ey A slavery, introduced into the United States Sonate ye oF not, in your opinion, avail themselves ppor- | as to off'r to send. thom to some points (Charioon was | writen to Governor Pickens, but I have sent a special | favor’ pe i eggplant ih nd tunity, or some of them? A. I suppose it would depend | one point named), If they would be received by the | moss nger to him to say that if he will allow Mujor Rees Sheceet toe perky shall terday:— on the circumstances existing at tho tim; If their feel- | United States authorities, and taken to their homes; but | Anderson to obtain his marketing at the Charleston mar- eet acs : 1) A WILE TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE LRotstaTio’ red, Tied bk ot shains Seah 2 Senn ot not I do not know; it was merely ries here it sent to is I wit! make no effort 4 oe " r TO ENFOUCK AMTICER THIRTREN OF TIE AMEN States, . rovision the fort; but that he does not do that : ‘4 Mt doo; provided they thought it was'to their | '@ Were rou inthe samme ignorance of the menes at | will not permit’ these peopin tn starve and shall | andi ful and vn! wench 0 al ass wad ik ace ee “ . vs n vessel laden with bread, and that if he Goeiay at ane eras, sl . . Do you pat nhs tone 02 Present time thore ia | commanded at Asdersoaville until T saw by thapaners, fires on that vessel he will fire upon an unarmed pee Bengt scns ed gp wenn kage i Padee wend gfe Md neaiant bie 8 doep-seated fvcling of dislike towards the government | aftor the cessation of how'ities, that Captain Wark vesscl | But I shall, af tho -mame time, | Daing and penaltion, and to none other, any law been duly consisted, bas Seen abotiched. cad prohibited f Dl yan he . gf, the United. State on th. of the | been arreated on that accounty BoFdo I know now who | send a fleet along with her, with instructions not to enter | Sedinance, regalation or custom to the contrary notwith. | by article. 18, of p temprer dearer ty nae Pats ote pose AEST. pat eda inky A pak marley we yb i And Sem — eee, by yr app ton os Re eye. oS the barter of Charleston unless that vessel is fired into; standing. rary inten hes mon’ . gon te | a . ry y be som+ ud of course yo mi ig of any she is, then the fleet ia to enter the harbor and . And that any person who, under color of any | fourths of all the States within this Union, which arsoudd Jobaito provide them with the immediate means of sub- | animosity still existing among people f cruelty, about whi r i aoa ning. ey of the bedi 2 {ome ree ns, ee onniniaeen. bare Tee [nape A tat File Meer preg Be Sop tatuie, ordinance, regulation or . shall ab | mont i in the words following, via. — ) @ His the colored race generally as great a love of py) 9 TS a fore, I suppose they suffered from the want of ability ou look; and, although I fear it te almost too late, | $e0r, OF caneo to be subjocted, any inhabliant of any | nee AES 2R money anc property as the white race possesses? A. T | Q Is there nota deep-seated feeling of disappoint. | the part of the Confederate States to supply thoir wants; ‘wil, ‘cubinls the ‘propesition which I intended | ie. ea iy, 10 we Ceprivation of aay Fight secured Sorin 1. Neither slav ry nor involontary servitud mae po, es poet Rid 8d peg ac- | ment and chagrin at the result of the war? A. I think | @ the very beginning of the war I knew that there when I sent for Mr. Summers. Your Convention tn Rich pad Neva by penne a oe 6 pee ent, gn Fon peso an gf eon oop oan Brome ho v ms present time fn n account o » porwon having at any time | aby ° duly con’ , shal) axint within thy . ~ tothefutare, | that at the time they were disappointed at the result of | S4fferings of prisoners on both sides, but as far ond has been sitting nearly two months,” and all | heen held ina condition of slavery or Involuntary servi | United Stater of any place subject lo their juriwtiction the war. I did everything in my power to relieve them, and urged they have done has been to shake the rod ever my : f mpoamure attribatable to his former condition: the, nota condition of discontent against the government of | ,, BY Mr. Blow—Q. It has boon frequently asserted that | Couvention, on the night of secession, which was re- | br hig color ar race, than Ix prescribed. for. the punish Therefore be it enacted by the Sonate and Houre » ae amlanietasuatree: ines nei eee al pron ang the United States among the secessionists generally? A. Reet cr tis Geta melee ap pit ays dood “ ea npn host ge ‘Ave-—a majority of two-thinls— | ment of white p rons, shall bo doomed guilty of a Representatives in Congress assemblod :— one. z c ne of the Upion party in that conven. rs 4 00 1 paniate ine worn 17 m et fore beld to slave nd, I think, look more to their present than to thelt |" “rue soorm Witt 00 rm perry ro Tnx covensanccr. | of the poopie of the South-—what is your obeervaion on | tion, ‘It yon will: xo back to Michmond and get that | not exeneding one thousand dallars cr tmprissament | or lnvulaniary servitude, wxseyt asm puwlient fy < ; : * dor’ the laws of any Seale of th od Sit wn Pi i for Reto Fes pepe moe 1 go lo iteepiar ed = mack st the present time as to. periuera a jcthy bony aroma pale pe adage eit Lorene lpg = peace of — —, and to save a 3. That the district courte of the United States, Of the Territories thereat, "are hereey Gediared to bs fr rane as citizens of the United Sintos ; orginia and the other bo it, that ; Sve ge see Rewer if Bra wy and their éencend - held ott to the secession portion of the | Bates faithfully and well? “A, T belibea that mee ent | the eld; the orders always were that the whol deid | I will take the responaibility of evacracing, Fert Sumter | Mtl thetr respoetive districts, shall have, exclnsively. | pw soisr tite ams eaten laiioneeny vy the several States, cogn zance of all | remain forever f Ne of Virg.nia or the other recently rebel States a form all the duties that they are should be tfeated alike; parties wet t out to take i required to perform ; ; parties were sen ein | and take the chance of negotiating with the cotton ted against the provisions o yt in paniamont of the par fair prospect of gaining thelr independence and shaking | cheetah maton peo ten ra Ago ety pod ng the federal wounded as well as the Confederate, aud the | States whic already gone out Teen eect evan eEene Ata thane lis grates ct | teat bare beex acy eantaen aRIOEE tm at wel po ri = gee “ ma perdak gr iat as NOT MUCH CHANCE TO CONVICT JKFY. DAVIS. surgeons wore told to treat the one es they did the otber; the United States, of all cansos, civil and criminal, af- | statute, regulation, cvistem or cousiitution of any Stacd Spporvuniey? ‘A. T cannot speak with pe = pet 7e8 yranioncena ta sutine pea poh a ee ee 56) nal r oln, raising cme wong | {ct!s persons who aro denied, ‘oF cannot enforce in' the | or Territory to the conteary notwithstanding d y , of judiel al v y. 2 And be it further eoac awe point; T do not know how far they might be | this rebellion against the government by a Vir. inian Q. Do you think that tho good feeling on their part ten to it for a moment hardly treated mo farmer mg ‘e tne, aghte peo pg Roe 4 odtus ha Pe tie aes Se ine Terrk ofore OF hereafter establinhing, recopnizin Senet te Heats Gelinas; 5 hove Gothing whtie Jury without packing it with direct reterence to a vordict | toward the rest of the poopie has continued since the civility, He asked me what T meant by an nd. | fey ae ee eae eae ae prose ing or regulating the right of property i ‘base an ion ut so far as I know they contem- | ‘of guilt; ch of ha ? iti he ; ‘i J % i y? A. On that point I have no knowledge, and L love of the war? A. now nothing to the contrary. | journment; did I mean an adjournment sine die? vi ye se a on o wothing of ¢ kind now; what may happen in the | do not know what they would consider treason against | GXNKKAL RACHANGE OF PRIOXERS PROFFERKD MY GRRRKAL | of course, Mr. Baldwin,’ said I, ‘I mean an ator Ge oa ee San teraat cause What ure I cannot say. or the relations of master aud slave, are here’y indinty Debi, eh Youd’ tnteneeeres | Tee een ree on meme pent cote. 1 mote several etuste to axdhnnge the peieenaie biter | cn’ die. 1 do not mean to assume sch a respo soever, civil or military, of any other person, any arrest | doclared to be abrogated and abolished, pth tele n virgins, end of a trope that ear ty Py ee ve the cartel was suspended; I did not Sree CIE ee, | cae cn emmndertans Cant Cas tothe poigte 6 or imprisonment, trespass or wrong done or committed | See % And be it further enasied, That any porv uch a war may break out? A. Icannot say that I by aan Knowlatiale. to what their views i Pon your adjournment, and then for you to return | by virtue or under color of authority derived from this | who shall unlawfully, aud in ¥ of the suspended; I do not know to this day which side took | ina week or ton days and pass your ordinance of weces- | PY . {1 do not know whethor you would call | “"Q, You understand my quesuon, Suppose a Jury was | the initiative; T knew that there wore coustane com: | sion after Lhave von up the fort.” pt Mg Bh pene neni hE ar pp ag Maret wll Bee lyn ag apr d ney te od Shem aioemmonlste oF not, T mean thow» people in Virgi- | empsanelied in your own neighborhood, taken up by | Pisints made om both sides; I merely know it frum | Mr. Hotts was very much incensed, as he says, that | therwa’, or for refusing 1 do any act upon the ground ) express @ hope that the coun- would It be’ practicable to convict, for instance, | Public rumor; I offered to General Grant, around Rich- | Mr. Baldwin should have rejected the propositon, and | that it would ne incometeont with: this act aneh dst nd firson Davis, for having lovied war upon the United | Mond, that wo should ourselves exehanve ali the pri- | asked Mr. Lincoin to authorize him to mak» it tothe | ant whall. have the right to ren cauuy tor wi and thus having committed the crime of treasont | foners in our hands; there was s committes from the | Union men of the Convention, assuring him that they | to th» proper district or eifoalt court in the manner pro ‘think it very probubl> that they would not con- | Christian Association, T think, which reached Petersburg | would adopt it, will mgly and cifcertully. To which Mr. | terthed bythe mct relat ne to habeus corpus and rosaint Vieions of this act, restrain or cause to be rent exceeding on” thou: ‘tho com sider he had committed treason. and made an application to me for a passport to visit Loacol lied :-—""Ob! . b la &. Suppose the Jury thoutd be clearly and plainly in. | the prisovers at the South; my letter to them I suppose | and T have no anosas ef eommventesting, wits nee? oF tmprlecnmens net exceeding Cup Yom, oF beth, ia Uh at ‘by tne Court that such an act of war upon the | have; I told them that I had not that avthority, Mr. Botte then asked pormiasion “to mention the | 27,1963 sad al . the eoart Pi he United States, on the part of Mi -— it could be onty obtained from the War Department | circumstance for Mr. Lincoln's own benefit, bat Mr. Un ted ‘aetes m4 Ca ve x Be wry gg Mn ‘eho ce? man, ‘constituted in itself ‘the crime of treason | t Richmond, but that nether they nor T Lincoln ‘said, “* Well, not just now, Botts; after a while | be exereived and evforced in conformity with the laws | the sald thirteenth amendment to the const itut under the conatituiion of the United the sufferings of the prisoners; that the only thing to 3 of the United Stat are the provisions reat ; , tes, so far ax wach la itable to v { thin met, be done for them was to exchange them; and to 2 inference was that Mr. Lincoln was | carry the same, into effet, but In all cases whore ad strained of hia or her liberty them sed te City Tata he peeonoe nt, T offered | asnuming responsibility which would at that day havo | iawn aru not adapted to the objct or are deficient in the | cause to be held to nervice as x ‘North Caroli i H oh bean exiremoly distateful tw those who had elevated | provisions necomary to furawsh gultable remedies and | sorvant, any person who has hereiofare ber ste s> Bee over which my command extended, | him to the Presidency; but he thought it due now to Pupieh offences against the law, the common law of involuntary service under the 08; ot goneral!y suppose that it was treason | Provided they returned an equal history and to the choracter of Mr. Lincolu to make it a 4 Tic would they view it? What wontd he | mati all the pricouers at tir Bothy if the propeniton GQ Arw you porfeotiy sure, seoording to your best ea the maseieatin woe in geen ges Gan ng Tos A ny Was accopted; I heard nothing more on the subject. | recollection. that Mr. Lincoln told you that he hat mado | wrcoaslatent with ths constitution and laws of the Valted | the, eine a eat tis Pact te Mable. to | DIMINUTION IN THR NRGRO POPULATION, ‘ that proposition to Mr. Baldwin to evacuate Fort Sam- ol ; @ Has there been any considerable ehange in the | torr ‘A. I know It as well as I know you ere standin, ogy Ee recov om amend Aotiars ingethoy paid ‘have, 90 | a Q.sorec the mage poralstion i Virgiois Caries | terocc os ad ak ia eaters mh ok e al satare, \n the infliction of panjstiment on the party | to recover the of one vss” eoliars 16 wl! from Ret covceaiat of the Carted } last four years? A. L suppose it bas duuinisbed, but 1 | Sir. Hott relates that some weeks afiorwaria he re- | (ad Sy ase sttoemege, martian wid | cts ite PROMNLYS RHI cine any avet the individuals of the State along with | 40 not know. , | turned to Richmond, aud mentioned one evening to Mr | deputy marshals of the United Mates, the comm ss) shall, as party to any suit oF layal proceediing. : was responmble for the act, not the in | .@ Diminished in consequence of more negroes golng | John P. Lewis, a Union member of the Convention, the | Arpainind by the elroult. and. torvarial imlaal, in the everee of the Sate on Mereery cto 13 64 South than was made up by the natural increase? A My | conversation he had had with “r. Lincoln; and that next tex, with powers of arrediing, imprisoning oF | may fenide, be denied any right wae Sy are ¢ ordinance of necession, 90 called, oF opinion is that the number has dimivinied, ad | moreing Mr. Lowis and Mr. Baldwin di to bis house re erainst the laws of the United Stat amendments to the constiution, he shall | > which reucoiead > ped the Fearon you giv. a | Sid had am interviow with him, which he narrate, at - teremovethe mid caw or proceediny nd incrione GpreanNNIS, 1 Sotlowe Wareaa, rine Sine mt neat, ont by | District of Cirowlt Courts of the Unitet Sta re ete irernmgert: the | St the present time are able to work, and that there are Mr. Botts satd:—Mr, Baldwin, is it tras that Mr, Line mpowersd by | District oF Cirew! + “4 shall thereafter Loke cogninane 6 United States? A. You, sir; I think | BOt many heipless ones among thom’ A. There are he coln did propore to you that if the Conventi'n would ad- sneciaily autherined and reer rilon am may from time Ut hey considered the act of the Atabwras legitimate; thar | !e8 On", certainly, but I do not know to what ext mi Sourn and gn heme quboct panang the erdincion Of 06 | erite’ ter metas te teenie onto don were i ce i | the anid courte thereupe tho ‘reserved’ right which’ they | CENERAL IRIN Pavon oF GeTriNG RID OF THE RiOi Le Geais etabuate Fort Sumter?” « shall ‘violate the prov sions it | further in said cance “t and fom swcuted by the person injured, wha shall be ontiti« tte H i 4 j widionsea 500012 acdineen to Virginie ce’ Coon inom thore ot silt, Do vou wot thik My God! Me Baldwio,” aatd Me hy dia a ee ni ‘eep them there you pot thin y . Baldwin,” said Mr. Botts, “why did you * ‘or bal! ‘ore | mandamas and on tun avernace nsont ov | that Virvinia would he beiter of if the colored population | rejeet’» ch m proposition ae that? rey | Pisa ss Untied denies or Tervitanet caeria an by, this | ings in the ate PRESIDENT 301 RCE SION. were to go to Alabama, Louis ana nud the other Southera ‘he only answer thi Baldwin made was by taking | act have engnizanco of the offene and with a | eres of the » . By Mr, Blow. In reference Q. State, if you please (and if you are disinclined to | States? A. L think it would be better (or Virgin if she It only wantstwenty minutes i pescanable prt to alt | mined in Gent Johnson's policy, if it were answer rd you pred not do so) what your own ot rid of them; that is no new opinion with me; nour of saeeth Sonvention, when a must pall g rs ees i protec on ° Send ae Hy dig) hat Wee tr Wieharine mee © always thought so, always been in | important vote is to be taken (incaning the vote on tho | [ty before, the law. without, distinction of Face eause you “ne - | from the Ui . ion. be or color, oF pre cond on of slavery or inv tmnt ” from the United States me along, as a citizen of wb rue! Say 59 - 2 me. be fa on iran x Pine aati ° « cy — Reg @ And that you folt to be your justidcation in taking | wus te'the State and tots fuure, promperny ? & tee tovalt courts et tae U , the wacom [ae i ed ee A ee think it would be for the benefit of V a courts of the Territore count provab Gumen > i hat et t poliucal powert Tag tad ee T knoe the desire tor the | 4% Lbave been told, General, that you havo remarked | '"Q" ho you oa. tlled & Selly. and conver le ‘the South, it is for the restoration of their to some of your friends, in conversation, that you were | orvest bs am ak oa . . ps) arged witha Pe cerminent: aad they look upon the pulley of Pratt | Tatler wheedied or cheated into that ‘course by politi ; ; deat Sotnsoa as tbe one whieh weald a dey Clams, A. I Go net recollect making any such remark ; I ‘ 4 not think ene whi do not think I ever made it. ict a a Oe ce @ If there ‘other matter on which you wish to | great nataral ion wade more At- @ Do you see any change among the poorer clavses in on this do sn freely? A. Only in rofer- | tractive by the al 0 ef A. bdo, permon shall be ude, or held & had been inf cited whenever the subjcct im me or she out of UW Virginia in refereuce to industry? Are they as much or | hce that last question you pat to me; 1 may hy ay way knows moro interested tu developing thelr material interoste sate Ah weir hs cach ches wes wen scence=—Mr. ream to be be ao quan, ‘ns now as 10 attend Lo his busines: for’ iiss aeps | AbOUL by the politicians of the country ; that the great to Evacuate Fort enti, t's 4 on * | masses of the people, if they understood the real ques- Su ‘ AM Q. The poorer clasens aro lly hard at work, are. }. Homann hectied be the politician | bad Beem IB | Outside of the matters of generai Interest testified to Wns Ove y , be ET far as 1 know they aro; I know nothing to J ng Ty it trohably the organ of the whole thiug? A, | by other parties, there isone historical episode connected Sheed ‘ “TREATMENT OF COLORED PROFLE i ey bore, said that, but I do not even recoltect that; | with the secession of Virginia and the outbreak of the pve 1 have meted" ees i oF dimin« | eccanco and wisdom had beon practised on both wides. | taken, This was a conference sousht for and hold by necgbe sete ted y Sen + ple irginia, they aro Octe 00 seneenaben te Se Sseeeen sey. Mr. Lincoln with a member of tho Virginia Seeesiou | pe Affair at the Fifth ¢ Bapt to a for / ind to the colored people; I have never heard any |. @ You way that you do not reootlect having sworn | convention, delegated by the Cnon members of that pi tony sid ae vtave, of onal ein te in aiad to thon as'to the presons enadivon ct | MeKiaues and fidelity to the Confederate goverumentt . arch, Baad | ‘of any responsibility. A. 140 not recolieet it, nor do I know that it was ever | body, Mr. John I. Baldwin, prior to the opening of Ue LETTER FROM THE REV. THOWAS ARMITAOR. +. Od | ‘are very few eolored laborers employed, po gee Twas regularly commissioned in the army of | pebel batteries on Fort Sumter. The first statement on TO THE RUETOR OF THE HERALD, a slave, « ” 1 7? A, Those who own farms have empio the Confederate states, bat i really, do not think tek | the wubject came from Mr. John F. Lewis, an uncompro- | Tho statement of Mr: Kimball, in your issue of thts feall t eon aap 90 poor Gout I took it; or ir had been required f would bave | mising Union man all through the wer, and who had | morning, seems to call re a few words in ropty, that my Spee wees Ge | Geserea eons wat #8 oq RANRRS BAF IN VIRGINIA 1F—= ogy Sith Gilneas hoon bimaelf a member of the Virginia Convention. Ha | powition in the matter of Christian union may be pro cancue ehane-| pane, or ty bat 2s the een ] to tide there any other matter which you desire to wate | testified that on the evening of the 16th of Aprit, 1s61, | perly underitoot, The Union Amuciation was originated 04 eficientiy, In enntorwity with the | om Inst wiv wid yorum wus reecived iw be carr gy question which you think ‘proper to put to me. he visited John Minor Botts, in Richmond, and learved | for the purpose of aniting Chrlatians of diferent denomi- }gconetitution of the United Staten and the requirements of | Amoy will be, Wulletes an | CNN ae the dtr @ Yew eae’ BOP COMBOTE te Pag ny hed be | ftom him that Mr. Lincoln hed informed him that he nations, and Mr. Kimball prowsed mo most importa | vinin their y, er WhO it coureh the V nited wile thet romp tone Rane By th we by p arate sap had bad an interview with Jobn B, Baldwin. nately to Montify myself with the movement, While re ta Urteta, shall have cogniranes of al crimes and oem “4 allowing colored: poopie, or Guise eas of eee, Judge Summers, for whom a special messenger had | admiring the object It professed to have in view, [havo | lime to time, to excl Pomme Sai cones 6f he Us . to exercise the right of voting @elections? A. I think, | been sent, not having been able to go to Washington, | never believed that the course pursued im bebalf of it reagent os dell | méee tbe Thee je so far as can form an opinion, in such an eveut they joo members had delegated Mr. Isaldwin and | could succeed. Bat Mr. Kimball pressed the matter with | pointed to t proce an ® erehy Ow efred on t would object. the ve bd would object to such an amendment? A. | made « proposition that if the Virginia Convention : pertinacity of bit ywd op nono a Sate and | shail bave ve vag Lovk ~ poche phe por ¥ a u - ,y~ 4 would adjourn sine die, without parsing an ordinance of | Soally imsisted that 1 should appear before the sonety at Woaees of Un tod Mates, oo fares s intents mer ‘ou the Blacks the et T.h | seconsion, Mr. Lincoln would take the romponsin liy | snd frankly present my objections to tts course, giving cusary tthe pr, | sane te rt, Yum a ‘would that in your opinion lead to scenes of violence or | of withdrawing the troops from Fort Samter, Colonel | & reason that Christians never could come to real Cl iesks chased ucareence of pov tebe ge yh 4. rece es eee eee Be ie ene Virginia? | paldwin rofused to accede to the proposition, and did not | unity till they met fora kind and free expromion of their | gitution which prot oy feces acunet law, the comme A, Lihink it would excite uafriendiy feelings between | -ommunicate it to the Convention. Next morning, after | iferent views. Aftor'at loart half « doven interviews, | the provisions of this act. aud oa d warrants Changed by the oomats Soom ad “waitin a would go; but that ‘would be the the statement, Mr. Lewis prevailed on Mr, Hald- | ai to this purport, I reluctantly consented, on his oficial Pte foes ted ne | ae en aaywhene la the Mate ove on jens a Jongts an es ~~ worlnern ion shouts @ Are you with the proposed amendment | win to accompany him to the house of Mr. Botts, who | Invitation, to addrems the society, and did so sadrowe ‘Ge. 0 Tht mg perem, who shall keowingly sad | with the comity that they reals auleas Se Vom ach; Tonaeaty Cae, “4 Ld ry the statement made to him by Mr. L and | 1 te De. Vermilye’s church. In that address t made | wrong ully obstruct, hinder of prevent any athoer of | be cxtended jo aut govern 4 ear in he ‘ney avoid stanee of the | viabodiness oe 7 sub. | ToEcd tte how, in the name of God, by he | wo attacks on anybody, but 1 did reply to several | ether person charged with the executun of any warrant | @epaltion of ouch cause, aud, if of a erimius a beng " ly a bd sibility of withdrawing the ki OF proces ued ander the provieions A Une ort the iInfretion of porichoemt um Une party f might avoid them; 2 a: pin Bo far as T can seo I do | esponsibility of withdrew ag ine ee elidein looked at | Allegations mad» there and then by Dr. Vormily® | ditsom or per awfully wenisting bin of the Prov ded, that nothing hete.n eontarnet Koow that Trees Q@ Would she consent, ott phd a ~ te n near the hoorfor | end another gentlemen, to the effect, that the | arresting any pornos for whew Gppreses oh war any santo of Dare tory (rom wvidiog by 2 f dl allow people to’ vote, oy ention ; had to be Ui Bapiiets were the Peet or teen may have heen imeyed, oF shall feerue, | punishment im the coors of ouch Mate ot Terr canh toll aie ale pF ike era teas rq 4 santa bt pause aban (Mr, ‘So apn. "= we the principal canes of divisions tm | Cm iipl ls fencus, mock parson from the custody of fermen ine may ne wayudand water he ane = M oa 3 + na that he would gee him (Mr. Bouts) again |. | the church of God; that they were “bignted," | eumely ‘anor pefvn of pormmm. ot twos lawfully lay of falas impriesoment or & Or Baldwin, in thy “@aelasive,” — “arregant,” “disrespectful towards | aasisting, as aforeead, when sy arrowed, purrsent to (he | vent any person from brings hall aed, abet or | Courts to feowrer damages ond by Mr. | other denominations,” ke Tho spirit manifented by | sathority here gives sud declares reteid directly of Seward, with & 3 ng Judge =ummers, or sumo anaiet a0: to arrested os bP ih Me By gS other loading mei ‘should some to Wastington to | Mes gentlemen only sired to contiem my eonvintion fodirectiy, Go exape from the eastedy of the offcer oF we te A. 1 thie! eee eats ee otth Me Liscoin, of his (sr Bald. | that the whole movement was impracticable, if mot | other persons ingally suthorizet, as aforennid, of shall = goatee the Borthers men, ol wia's) being seat aad eccompanying the member to | harmful. I paid no farther attention to the Agoeistion, | Barbor of conceal any perme fur whom s warrant or pro Sets $0 90 epee. Washingtod the samo night; of bis being introduced + | com shall have been lenued 0 aforesaid, ao as Wo prevent @ That having been stated very frequent pent moramg by tir. Sowert to Mr. L oA Mr. | *X0Apt to read the reportaf ite doings im your own and | hie gine very aut arrest after notion of knowledge of ‘he goes the cotton Btates, does it result from Lancoin's taking into a private bed) cabot papers, Ila meetings were frequent, and at each | fet hat « warrant has boon laud ‘ur the apprahoncion of rach person, ahail for either of aud offeares be sale i i i 3 might be the more free from interruption, be paw of thom the same epirit and line of remark were indalend opened by Mr. 4 io & fine DOA @xeneding one thousand dollars, and Im. | erty by say perwon Barration of the conversation, which was opened 17 Ma | Wewards the Baptiste aod Episcopalians, Uil 1 borane | Pri scment mot exconding at monte by. indictment | Vaal ance enw the hav ‘ccucue mea? r pretty well persuaded that the whole movement war a | ore the Dimriet Goan of the United Maine for the | of this st ‘e n district in which aid offeare may have bene committed, cepa he anyr betes Of Christians, For | oO are ihe proper court of criminal jarimtiction, i instance, & meeting was held at the Broadway Taternarto | ooenmiiied # Unie amy one of the orgamtend Terr tories of in whieh fr. Vermilye and others went oo far in severs | the United Mtaten z i £ & £ i = s i f AF of # i : reutt ot ofieer dome in the prem: i v peely juts may farther eumeted, That it i eS ee ee ee ae dewupeiation that the Hanato, with {t# seoustomes ra. | Au. & That the district attorneys, the marshals, their or that tey feci more free einem and solemn episcopal rupervision, administered | deyulier sod the Clerks of (he raid distret and Lerriiorat nee. an editorial rebuke in connection with ita’ fepert of the | courts, shall be fom thole aetvions the ihe fees as ' bays " meeting. Subsequently, and two months ago, | may bs allowed to them for similar eervicw in other © het sow toeien another was told In Brooklyn, in an Kpimcopal | canes, and in all Cosme where ibe procnedings are bef Gerests of Virginis—do you th! church, where Dr. Vermilye outdid iiewseif in ame! og newt he shalP be «miitied tn a fon x ton . Lancota. aren wore before the Adjourn i? How? Do teean rine aie?’ the Baptist denomination ‘condemning the fy eee ip fall for bm eereicgs in each case, tnchusive of sii evr “¥en; ain i lee gunelng menace w me, whieh | an be i, “nod holding 1 ap to strong Toor yon | Whene incident to euch arrest end eraminsiion The per me very much.” tion.” His condoct om that oo asion was go violent (hat | son OF pareune authorized lo execute Lie procems te much surprise,” seit Mr. Raldwio, “to . he ) remnoustraind | iaened by euch comminnoners for the arrert of ofenteors that opinion. The Vir Conven: | with bim; bot Dr. Vermilye imemed that be wor by we A thin ont, shall be om deciaim ‘“‘agsinet the enormous wrong” Things | tiled to & fom of bre dollars for each pereee be were in this state when Mr Kimball called pom | or may arrest and take before any me © know whether of not the Chrisian (nom | misnomer, as aforeanid, with week other fowe may be ae py 8 by ey ber additional eh a -y oowemriy - consider oa = that "old wh, formed by hun or them th igo, se tat ving Terres pfs a ey Baap te wT ce, bo route would open ihe door to great demagoging and om for cokaaas eamsana spencer provipiae nd oy By tt a“ s within which (ney are ead to embarraasmenta in various: he Bt quaclioee ju Cay ouuaon aed Nore we sda no meas qoneral for performing oh other devine 10 Apt be & further enacted, That any per ture may prove, how intelligent they may become, defence: bat if Dr. Vermilye woald come to my pelpit ta the poramiars, each com. | whe ehall Knowingly and wilfuly obetrect, b ter what eyes they may look upon the interests of the State end Galiver e sermon oF disrourse on Hapunt erriosive wih the fone A | prevent ony oficer of cher paren charged wb |b in whieh they may reside, [ cannot say more then you proved om Bible they eould hold the | the court of jostive, within Aintriet oF coanty Sasoation f ser errant of bust saree ey = corteag there fhe ested te to erie out the be oer ruin, a out A the Tremwary of seme say pore on pares imate il RNIORATION TO WEEICO. ton; [did os, and he took it w Dr Vormiire, re | the ‘fiates, o8 the at the Gms Q In there fot in the South for Varned en thformed’ mete the man poative and 90 pt MO te YI » —e. 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