The New York Herald Newspaper, October 12, 1863, Page 4

¥ 4 NEV RTANT. SOUTHERN NEWS. The Georgia and Great Bri- tain Controversy. British Subjects in Georgia Brought in Contact with United States Forces Ordered to Throw Down Their Arms. Tuteresting Correspordence Between Governor Browi eud Consul Fullarton, * England Snubbed by Seward and Adams.” The Cfiicers of the Rebel Conscript Bureau in Council. Governor Letcher Claims to Have Car- ried Virginia Out of the Union. The Governor's Account of an Interest- ing Conversation Between President Lincoln and a Rebel Editor. THE SALT QUESTION IN GEORGIA, REBEL HURRARBS. IMPRESSMENT IN THE SOUTH FINANCIAL SITUATION OF THE SOUTH. The Bebel Generals Polk, Hindman and Arm- strong Under Arrest, a. &., oa, NEWS VIA BALTIMORE. Our Baltimore Correspondence. . Baxrmors, Oct. 7, 1863. The Rebel Triangle, with its Points at Charleston, Rich- mond and Cratranooga—The Rebel Forces at these Points— Affairs at Charleston—How the War Department at Washington Unwitlingly Helps the Rebel Leaders, dc. Thave been put in possession to-day of the following information in relation tv the military situation at the Bouth and the military movements now in progress there, This information comes from Southern sources, ‘and [ have reason to believe that most of it had a semi. Official origin; at all events there can be no doubt of its authenticity. It will be remembercd that the campaigns Of the present fall and the ensuing winter are being car- ‘ried on, oa the part of the South, in pursuance of the plans agreed upon at the council of war which was held ®: Richmond about the last of July. At the time those plans were ad p'ed General Lee’s army, after his cam- paign in Peansylvania, was massed on the line of the Rappahannock; General Gillmore had commenced his op- erations before Charleston, Vicksborg and Port Hudson had fallen, and the Union troops engaged before “hese places were at the disposal of the ad- “‘miaistration for service clsewbere; Bragg’s army ip ‘Tennessee had retreated befose Rosecrans frem the line of ‘the Duck river to Tullaboma, and from Tullahoma across ‘the Tennessee river to the strong position at Chatta- ‘mooga. as | bave before stated, were based ompon a strict to the principle of the concentra. {ion of forces as applied to the defensive system of war. fare. Singularly enough, the openiag operations of these ‘campaigns on the part of the rebels have been greatly Qided and advanced by the blunders and false moves of the War Department at Wasbingtoo. It will be seen, on examination of @ map of the seat of cwar, that the three points at which the rebels are now form the three pointe of a triangle; that their tear Richmood, near Chattanooga and at Charles. fon, are cach within supporting distance of the other ‘two; that the railroad communication between the three is perfect (even without using the great Southern Paipoed through Kooxville), while the means of jon are known to be ample; and that in all operations they have the advantage of the interior lines, while the Union forces are compelled to move ‘eroasid them on exterior lines forming the arc of a great ‘circle. Since the battle of Chattanooga, on the 20th and lst Of September, the forces of Gen. Johnston and Gen. Bragg, ‘acer Chattanooga, have been considerably augmented. ‘They consist now of the following bodies of troops:— UNDER GEN. BRAGG. 208 regiments of infantry. 180 Gon Wh UNDER GREY, JOHNSTON. ‘Two divisions of Longstreet's corps.. ie divisions cf veteran Western troops. walry batteries of artillery ia militia Total robel force near Chattanooga. .......4+ Tt may well be doubtod whether the above 20,000 militia from Goorgia, bastily raised, undisciplined. and probably {ndifferently armed, can be of any use on the fleld of bat. fe. But in every arniy of the above magnitude the rer- Vicos of about one-eighth of the whole number are always voquired for camp duty, gaarding roads and bridges and Keeping communica’iona open. The rebel army, there fore, is actually strengthened to that amount, because it fellevos from those “uties 20,000 veteran troops, and al tows them to go to tho front, The effective force under Gen. Johnston's orlors, therefore, is 193,000 troops, as ‘tated in my letter { Soptember 22. In order to conceutrate this largo force near Chatta- tooga the rebels have had to withdraw nearly all the troops from Mobile and Savannah, and some from Charles ton also, in addition to those sent from General Leo's army. Bat they foo! per ect!y safe in doigg 80, They “o Bot expect that sovb Will de attacked until the cool ‘weathor of the fail, in November; but they do expect it Wil be attacked thon, both by a land and naval force, To regard to Charleston, General Boauregard has assured ‘the rebel authorities at Richmond that ‘the Yankees" Mall vover possess either Charleston or the jand upon which Charleston stands; and it is eald, too, that he has rent 8 mbssage to Gon. Gillmore containing intelligence which will probably lead (hat officer to abandon his idea of sbailing the city. Charicston, of course, can be de. (yea by a bombardmont, but even when that Is done the works atvies the site will yot remain to be takea before the city of Charleston can bo reached, This will have to be done, if done at ail, by the land forces alone. The naval forces cannot co-operate, because they cannot get their veerels past FortSumtor. Tt is now roan that what Isaid momthe ago in regard to the obstruc tions in tho harbor was correct, It is beyond the power Of the naval forors now (here either to pass Fort Sumter OF to remore those obstructiona, The way to take Charles fon ts to take Richmond fret Rut the administration will not attompt » Richmofid by the only route Trom which (ti y erable, and the rebels, know- (Ag thal are abo to Wdstum in ordor to defeat Ro traw Partiwons, Oot. 9, 1863. —What Tl Amounts ided Upon the Subject «Terms Proposed The Reason The Peace Movement in to—The Cabint Hopelenty 2 Tha South Would Reject Of this Rejection , Thave somo informai\is ogard to the recent ai faged peace propositions Le Cabinet which may (OOF some importance. It \s iu the following effect —It Sead that the question ©f perce, or what amounts ¢ fame thing—the question of the further prosocutior the war—is now bolure the Cabinet. No proporal Dede, however, has boon roceivot from the South Peopasal for oMring terme of perce to the South originated, according to my informants, with ® dis- Unguishod member of the Cabinet, His proposal subs Stantlally is;—i'bat the South shall lay down their arms, Acknowledge (he authority aud supremacy of the federal government, aud sond their Senators aud Reproscnta tives vo Congress. A genoral amnesty (0 bo proclaimed, including ati who aro cow in arms against the govern meat, except Lhe chief leaders of the rebsllion, who are to be havished. The Southern Btates to be seoured ia their State organizations, and the queation of the dis vorment of Virginia to be Referred to tho decision of the Supreme Court, The Confecation act to be re. pealed. ‘tho emancipation proclamation, having boon adopted as a tmere war moasure, to bo withdrawn, tho States, kowover, to bind themselves to adopt a system of Gradual emancipation by which ail slaves now bold are to De slaves for life, but all megroes born after (ho your Lib4 10 be frco on arriving at cho age of twenty-one yoars ‘Tho substantial fovtaros of this proposal are favored by Mr. Seward, Mr. Usher, Mr. Blair and Mr. Bates. Lt is Opposed in tolo by Mr. Chaso, Mr, Stauton and Mr. Welles. Thar three gentiomon hold the folowing views on the subject:— That it is no longer simply tho robels in arma whom we are fighting, but the whole of the pooplo of the South ern States, That they aro all public onemles, and can ouly be treated as such. That no peace basod upon tho Above or any similar torms could bo lasting. That if tho war Is prosecuted with vigor, in less than ® yoar more the power of the reveltion will bo broken; their armies defeated and scatterod; Kichmond, Charleston, Mobile and Savannah in our poazession—the whole Southora country conquered; and wo will then be in @ position to dictate what terms we please to the vanquished rebels, ‘That it would be unjust to the loyal States of the North to permit the rebellious States ever again to enter into the Unton on a footing of equality with the formor, That they are to be no longer recognized ag States, but as con- quered provinces, and are to be governed in such a man: ner as Congress shall dotermine. In a word, tho doc: trines of the Whiting letter and of the recent Atlantic Monthly article of Senator Sumner are adopted by these gentlemen as the principles upon which the future action of the government towards the South shall be regulated, #0 far ag that action can be controlled by them. Although they form a minority of the Cabinet, they have really more weight thun the other four membors—first, on ac- count of Mr. Chase personally, as wicldiog the vast power of the Treasury; and, second, because they are supported by Senators Sumner, Wilson, Lane and Chand- Jer; and the influence of these four men at the White House is almost incredible. But my information does not end bere. Every one will see that the above proposal of peace embraces terms as favorable as the Southern people themselves could ask if they wished to return to the Union. portant, then, to know whether they would accept those or similar terms, if such were offered to them. It 1s im- I have the facts which enable me to say that if those terms wore offered tothe South today they would be unbeai- tatingly rejected; and this would bo done,not by the rebel leaders alone, but by the whole Southern people, ‘This ia a painfol and unpleasant fact; but it is a fact nevertheless. Up to the middle of september of last was still a Union party at the South; still of the Union. Buch features of ferocity, since that time the acts of the administration and of Congress have been of such a nature, ‘an to crash out every vestige of Union feeling at the Tt might not bave been so a year ago, year there there were some people who desired a restoration Bat since that time the war has assumed South, and to make the idea of reunion abhorrent :to the Southern people. I do not make this statement at ran- dom. I make it on the authority of more than a dozen gentlemen from different parts of the South, all of them men of veracity and intelligence, some of them men of formerly bigh position in their respective States, but nope of them holding any positiou in the rebel army. The fact is—and this fact must be realized sooner or later at the North—the South, united as one man, is fighting for independence, and not for slavery. If, in order to gain their independence, it becomes necessary for them to liberate their slaves, or a part of thom, they will unhest- tatingly do it. ‘The idea that the military power of the South is broken, or even that it bas been matorially weakened, ts utterly delusive. The South never had such an effective army in ‘the field as ithas to-day. True, it is only 400,000 strong, and one-fourth of these are conscripts; but the other 900,000 are veteran troops, and tifey havea latent ele- ment of military strength which our politicians bave not counted on hit . The great error of the administra- tion is in making war on the Southern people, and not merely on the rebels in arms. It wasasad day when the first false step in that direction was taxea, by authorizing Jobn Pope to forbid the placing of guards around the houses of Southern people. Pillege, rapine and unbridied Hicenge too often followed the army after that; and the result is now seen in the state of facts mentioncd above, If the war is to go on the hardest fighting is yet to come. And yet, with all these facts existing, an honorable, Yasting peace is in the power of the administration, to be followed, perbaps, at some future period, by ultimate re- union. Before next-Christmas the path to such a peace will be pointed out iu Congress by a member of the House of Representatives. NEWS VIA WASHINGTON. Our Washington Despatch. ‘Waswmoton, Uct. 9, 1863. ‘THR REBHT, 1ROW CLADS. ‘The latest intelligence in reference to the rebel iron- clade is shat there are twenty-four finished and eight un- finished in the confederacy, viz:—One finished at En- faula, Ala., seven finished at Mobile, ove Gnished and one ou the stocks at Montgomery, two finished and two on the stocks at Selma, Ala., three finished at Savannah, five finished at Charleston, five finished and five on the stocks at Richmond. This is the total of the iron-clads in the rebel confederacy. ‘THE REWRI ARMY. An extravagant estimate of the rebel army by Southera authority is as follows:— Lee’s army, bow in Virginia... "es army, bear Tennessee. Boauregard’s army at Charleston and Savanna! Price and Kirby Smith's troops... At other ched poimts........ DOM. rrer recs severe Peecevecsees see It is represented that ninety thousand meo have fur- nished substitutes in the South, each one of whom will be compelied to enter the rebel army if necessary. Besides, the conscription rigidly enforced to forty-fve iat | % claimed, will Increase the rebel army to 600.000, ai extended to rixty years, will swell that army to nearly @ million of men. ‘In addition to this, six hundred thousand young negro fellows can be pi’ in the service, if it should be determined to arm the slaves and give them their freedom. NEWSPAPER ACCOUNTS. EORGIA AND GREAT BRITAIN. AMr. Pullarton, who dates fetters from the “British at Savannah, who signs himself ‘Acting Con- who informs the Governor of Georgia that he mitted bis authority to act as British Consul to Mr, Benjamen, who duly accorded to him bis approval and recognition,” has bad the audacity to give forms1 in- tunation to, Governor Brown, tet > bea viet those resi jorgia who claim { itieh sub_octs, an he MEME shay Be at dtted Tato he maifin under tne’ fete that if they are required ‘to leave their immediate or to meet the United States forces in actual configs," in exch event they should ‘throw down their Mr, Fullarton goes further than this. While admit! the of British residents to defend their homes agaival “invasion by a foreign Power,” he adds, “but not ia @ civil war like that which now rages on this continent,’’ ‘Mr. Fullarton has considered the matter, and has judged And concluded, and coolly informs the Governor of J of hia conclusion—that Georgia is sulla portion of tI United States, and is engaged io a civil war against fellow citizens of other States. Hero we must remark that Mr. Fuilartov could pot pos Savannab, is pot accredited by his government to our government: he knows nothing of our government ; it he has any credentials at all they are addressed w Mr. Linceln's ge vernment at Washington: ad Mr. Benjamin, acting (we mast presume) for that government at Wash: ington, bas approved and reongnized Mr. Fullarton. Here the habit of regarding Mr. Ronjamin as Secre ‘tate to tae confederacy but Britieh consuls and (heir government know Lim as a kind of agent Mr. Lincoln, domme Mr, Sewa will demand to koow. by Fullarton to Mr. Benjomin, and wh ) antisiactory, and upon whicb be « 4” a person who jm to reside in Savannah and protect the resi dents of Georgia agaioat the laws of inform the Governor of Georgin that be ts civil war againe( bis own government, aud advise a cer Y throw down their G tain portion of the Georgia mittia arms if they are oxpecton to defend their the enemy, Was that authority thus su Renjamim an appoil wt by Mr. Me couaul at eavanna? or was ita letter from Lyons, | the Rritizh Mioister at Washington’ or was it an exequatar granted by Mr. Seward at Washington? all we know for Cortarn t8 tbat it wi consul accredited Ove cannot butadmire the p courtesy of Govornor Brown in dealing with this most ingolent “Act tog Consul.” But he doss mot recede an inch from bis | posiLon, and (he abstract whieh we append of the esaen- | Lal parte of the correspoadence will satisiy our readers YORK that the dignity of the confederacy aud of the State aro eafe in the hands of Govera.r Bown. Under due daly 22 Mr, Fullarton writes the first letter frou the “8 tisk Courulate”? demauding the ex- ecmpbion of British subjects from the duty of defending the place of thelr residouoo, unless against foreign Powers Hore ts on ©; ot | Her Muesiy's governmoat acknowledge the right of a foreign Stuc to chitm the services of British gubjects, 8, for (ho purpose Of maintaitug resident withla its lia internal order—in Gibee words, 10 ab a& aLogal police fore, aud even to a limiiod extent (© deioud against lavasion by @ tcregn Power tho places of their ence, but Choy deny the claim to service beyond | Ghis, and accordingly | have given advice in the following Bense to Levigh pulyeots, who have applied to me on tho abject of this draft—that militia duty is In coueral an Obligation tucdeut to foreign residenes, aud that, thore- y tuel nol CLieot W render the service required 8 (he law roqui'Os @ nilida Organization for the Maiuwnance of ternal peace and Order. But if it ehalt #0 bappou that (he militia, after betug 80 Organized, shall be brought twto conflict with the forces of the United Siatea, without Leing turned over to the Cunfederate £0 a8 (0 form & coInpooent part Of 1t6 armies, Or if bo 80 (urnod over, in oither evont ‘the service required would be such a6 ‘British subjects camnot be Ox- pected to perform. (nm the Sth August Gov. Brown replics. Informa Mr, Fullarton that no must have misunderstood. the objects of (hat militia force. Toils him that the enemy fs preparing roids to devastate the country, aud exciting insurreotions of niaves. Ifo then continues :— 1t is need! a6 for me to add that in gase they should ceasiul iu inciting insurrections to this point, the ry of holpless women and childsen would doubtiosa be the result Asa means of accomplishing thia Object, aa woll as of destroy ing public and privato property, the enemy ts now preparing to send cavalry raids as far ag possible into this aud other States of the confederacy.” ‘These robber bands will, no doubt, burn and dostroy property where they go, carry off ag many slaves ay thoy can, and atterapt to stir up others with whom they come in con- tact to insurrection, robbery and murder. It is not expected that the eight thousand men called for by my proclamation, and the general order to which you refer, will be used against the regular armies of the United States. ‘The provisional armies of the Confedo rate States have shown themselves fully able to meet tho enemy upon a hundred battle fields, and to drive them back with sovere chastisement, ‘wherever have not had the advantage of thelr navy)as a support, But itis expected that this home organization, while it may be ‘but little of its time in actual service, will, in case of sudden emergency, ‘assist im ing ‘the plundering bands of the enemy which evade contact with our ar- mics and make predatory incursions to our very homes for the purposes already men: ; and’ that ti will Qssist in suppressing apy servile insurrections which these plunderin, parties may he ne lo to incite, Many who claim bd okt Lijesty’s subjects in this Stato are large slaveho! }, whose: ‘of ‘lous of pro. perty, and of ingult and cruel injury to their wives.and children, in case of insurrection, is aa scr a8 te dan. ger to tie citizens of thie ‘Staté, and thett obrigath to protect their property if ‘against the focal —- of ie United States, foeeon sanecoen uy, ile her Mujesty’s government re. fused to recognize the existence of ‘ha woveraien ‘Of the, Confederate States, her citizens have enjoped Sea presse: tion, And whileshe refuses to, hold. avy diplomatic rela tions with us, you, as her representative, are permitiod to represent ‘her interests here and to be heard for the Protection of her sul a state of thi aibly jodge or covelude otherwise, He, as British Acting | Conte int @ business bere for the | jects and their. }, British supjects who sul Block to remain in tho racy should not expect to do leas than the service now required of them; and while free egress will in no case be denied them, should they desire to depart from this State, leas than the service now required will not in future be demanded, tn case they onoose to remain i the State and enjoy its protection. Whereto Mr, Fuliartom replies.on the 17th August. He says that it wag not he who misunderstood the affair, but OTiperteolly understood-the intentions of the: govérn unidacomanieng the fores of eight thousand men for home defence, but 1 am obliged to conclude that you have Inirupderstood me when | admitted the right ot the Stave to oo — ot Leper subjects eirrvee pares its for the pu moaigtaining, ternal order, and oven to a limited extent to defend the places of their residence agairst local invasion by a forcign Power. Such service might be rendered by them ia the event of a war by a foreign Power, but not in a civil war like that which now rr ‘on this continent. ‘Her ty’s government consider that the plainesi” ‘notions of reagon and justice forbid that a foreigner, ad- mitted to reside for peaceful purposes in a State forming part of a federal Union, should be compelled by that State to take an active part in hostilities against other States which, when he became a resident, were members of ono and the same confederacy, ‘While ackoowledging the right of the State, ander present circumstances, to the services of British subjects for patrol or po- lice duty, her Majesty’s. it to any further extension of such service. Ihave consequently, under instructions, felt myself compelled to advise those drafted to acquiegce in the duty until they ara requirea to Jeave their immediate homes or to meet tho United States forces jv actual conflict, in that event to throw down their arma sod refuse performance of ion, the severe penal. ties denounced against a violation of the strict neutrality ‘80 strongly insisted on in that document. And he adds this menace:— The which I brve received from the British arms. uld theae remonat ry in Europe, interested in this questi in mak ing Tepresentations as will secare to aliens this de- sired exemption.’’ ‘To this the Governor replies.as becomes bim :— You virtually deny that. the United States is a foreign clothes Corres agit Qcompamens eer) fou tack the immediate locality of thei houses, they are not to defend them, as required by the laws of nations, against such local invasion; but they are to throw down their arms and fight for the protection of their domiciles. reply to this, ft is my duty to inform you that can neither bs bound by your pretensions that the United States is not a Power jorciga a the right of ber »; to repel local invasion, upon the approach of a hostile force, fol. down their arms, that gov- pardon tor such conduet, strike their names from ita muster rolis if it chooses but ifan attack should be made by the enemy pon the immediate localtty of their homes, while { con- rol abd command the forces to which they are attached, and they should be guilty of conduct 0 unnatural and unmanly ag to throw down their arms ond refuse to de- fend their domictien, they will be promptly dealt with ns citizens of this State would be should they be guilty of such dishonorab’e delinquency. Here it is to be observed that it was prodent in the Governor to answer re hee himsei?; he knows very well what he will do, while he commande tho State militia, to any of the State foree who may throw down their arme in face of the enemy ; but he cannot tall what the Confed: erate authorities might do in such a case, with Mr. Ben- jamin Secretary of State. Mr. Fullarton had asked if there woult be any obstacle to the British residents leaving the country, en if als ready drafted, and intimates that this would’ deprive the confederacy of artisans and anics whee services ‘he Governdr responds:— ing to know tbat there is no law of nations which throws any obstructions in the way of the removal of any British eubject trom the Statewho is not satisfied with the privileges and protection which he enjoys. You remind me, however, that not afew of thom are mechanics, of whose inestimable services at this crisis the con! will be deprived in case of their removal. These mechantes have no doubt romained in this State because they folt {€ their interest to romain. And in re‘erence to them this State wiil very ¢ adopt the rule whiok generally controls the Fritters gov: ernment. She will pectoral and wilt ex: ver defence such me. chloe eho wroehesn #8 choose to romain, and as will | be more serviceable pacity. | Mr. Fullerton oat ‘tions by domanding leave to quit the State for J.D. and F. M. Kiely, “two | Grafted British subjeste.”” We give tho whole of the | Governor's reply, which closes the correspondence, as We | find tt in Inteltigencer — the Adanta - JARIETT A, 14, 1668, Mr. A. Feuuanros, Acting Consul of ‘reat Brat’ DRan Ste—1 have the OF tO acknowledge the receipt | Of your communteation of the 12th inet. in whieh you | Fequest me to tseve orders to the commanding oMeers to grant J.D, and F. M. Kiely, two drafted Hritish 9 Tesidents of Rom Veave to quit the State and per- in Rome thirty eS iM be | mtamon to romain’ uamolested soutle their affairs in that city. ‘This permission | cheerfully granted upon the production to me of sat y evidence that the persons named are Rritish sub- a Biv an ordinance of the Convention of this state, repre: TESS PES PES Ty PP PELE sess 7: ss 8 senting her people and her severvignty, passed ‘on the 16th day of Marcb? 1941, it is dectared — That all white of (he secessi rsons reslient In t)\« State at the tiene 0 of the Slai@ from the | States with fon of making it the pla erect A at la 4 i ale except him or herself vetinance by a declaration in @. within three montas from W Bhe does not wish to be cunsidered & ce of Secession referred to in the above quotation was passed on tho 19th day of January, 1861 I the Messrs. Kiely were resident in this state on the 19h day of January, 1961, avd did not Ole thelr dectara- ton in a Court of Record in this Stato within three months from the 16th day of March, 1961, ‘hat did not wish 1o become citizens of this hey accepted the privi: loges and obligations of citizenth ip of em by tho fate nnd ceased to bo British sudjec are conse: | quently not entitled to ibe leave to quit the State, for which you ask under my letter of the 26th ult, Tf, how | ever, they became residents Of this State at any time ince the 19th day of January, 1861, or tf thoy were thea | | residonts, aud Gied their declaration, a required by the ordi snos, within threo monthe after the {6th day of March, 1381, they will boaiowed the thirty days to ar- range Uheir aflurs, as you roq seat, aad porminted to do part (com the State «t the oxpirauon Of thitiorm With igh co sideration, 1 am, very re-peotiuly, your ube- dicut servant, Jost & BROWN Bravo | Governor, Wo hope there 1 not & @ugte Gover- nor of a state to the ooniede capableo! notiug with eas apir ¢ and patelotiqn than Goveruor Hrowe, But » bat on carth are we to do with Mr benjamin and his “oonsula’’ How long are wo to suffer hiv to “ap prove aud recoguize” pers na who do Bot approve or re- Coxnize Us, WHO publicly tnauit the sovercivnty Of our wi Biaies, who tell us we aro waging “civil war” against Our goverument At Washington, and who officially advisoour tate suidiers LO throw down ther a-me Something must be done; and no one will be Furprised if tho Governor of Goorgia vow finds it to be his duty to draft Mr. Fuliarioa ‘Tho goutlomau or bis governmout cau ask rodro.# at the hands of Mr, Linoola, of the Rebel ed by Seward [From the Richmond Dispatch , Oot. &.} “1 will swear to any Ling in reason," says poor Poter Poodles, ia the novel‘ Red Gauntict.”” “Ohi @ plea is a Joat plaa if it comes to my oath,’ The invitation given by she Koglish Foroign Gecrotary all whom it may @oncern to como forward and perj.ro themseives, in the anatter of the so-called Contoderate sloamers, geems to have had the desired olfect. The vessels ato to bo dotained, and Eoward is to be gratified at the small expense of damnation to tho affidavit mak- or's soul, who obviously bo proved to be a0. truth, gor, wore it true, this mattcr Lord Russell has acted the part of the prose: outing attorney, and not that of the judge. Ho pointed out to bis clicuts, Adams and the Fxeter Hall junta, the ovly means by which they could legally succeed in arrest- ing tho steamers and delaying thelr departure. Without his invaluable aid the probability i that that they would have remained in ignorance of them. Why aro the Yan- kee papers always abusing Eogland? Sho is must assuredly a aod potent ally, and has never neglected an opportunity of rendering them all tho assistance in her power, through the agency of ber Foreign Secretary in Kogland and. her Amobassador in Washington To favor them sho bas fore- sworn herself and ignored asolemn treaty. has suppliod them with arms tn untold abundance, and aeve- ral hundred thousand soldiers. She is at this moment supplying them with the latter article at the rato of several thousand a week. If sho were to become offended at aome of tbe tpnumerable tirades against ber, which fod their way into their press, aud stop the emigration from Ireland, she would put an end to the war in three months, Bat she does nono of theso things. She submits *to be scubbed by Seward and Adams, aad to be abused by tho newspapers under their direction, with a meekness truly Christian, and continues to supply them with arms and men to fight their batties just as if nothing had happened to render their relations reeable. When.a treaty comes to be made with England here- after we hope ‘our government will remomber all these’ things. It was intimated in a cotem- porary journal the other morming that it was the Pdesi of .the government afer obtaining our tnd Ce , 6 place all the world upon an equal footing ith’ Tespect to trade. We -hopo the Senate will treaty ore ito the ne egy. “m4 she same wileges wit "ance reapect ri These two Eitve ‘peso ui inveterate enemies, and thi deserve no consideration at our hands. As for her course has been s0 decidedly hostile that it is hard to say which are our bitterest enemies, abe or the Yan- kees. We are in favor of free trade, aud are vory well are that 90 far as pecuniary interest is coacerned, we should Ancona the whole worid to trade with us. But there are considerations above money, and these politicel considerations, too. Were we in a condition to do it we are pot sure that we would be wrong to declare war against England, , Do not, then, at least, jet us throw the wealth of empires in her ap. Let us make ber. feel that ‘we resent her conduct by placing her rival in the position of the most favored pation, and denying that position to her. We have the means of retaliation la our owa hands, and wé trust they will be used, Rebel Bills Vorsas Greenbacks. {From the Richmond Enquirer, Oct. 8. If @ man were induced, or cor 10 hoard ten thousand dollars of yr money for five years—to bury it in the earth for i length of time—would he choose ‘-greenbacks,’”’ or Confederate bills and bonds? Which of those two species of securities wi!l be worth money in: five years? 'y another form of asking. will the Yankee Bation sneceed, or will it — rt to conquer and confiscate our country? are to succeed their greenbacks are money our Confederate paper good Only for lighting our pipes; if they are to fail, then they must repudiate their wi war debt, and their green bills are less precious than the leavés of the trees, while our debt, incurred for the redemption of a great and guaranteed by the government of a aod. prosperous . young nation, be worth its denomination in coined the reader's patriotism—we appeal to common sense only. We aman (let us say) Dy the will of a whitmsioal testator to bury tea to money for five yoars, as to to ai som in gold after five years. We do not baleecs thet sayy Teasonable peraon, capable $ 3 a £ FL : fr f i E i [ is HE noble a prize. ‘This, wosay, is pot merely the patriotic view. It is the economic, stock broking, money lending, the meanest [one peg ag nmnge pe the subject, aad we S ve not yet met =e person of jotelli and fore- thought who does regard our financial condition in that light. Yet men who know und acknow- ledge all this are ol ‘to demand a ten or fifteen fold Poses sell, owing to depreciation of he currency—are objized * ‘fipancial magician will disenchant our money for us, and save it from turning, within our very hands, into that “fairy money’ in which the Devil pays. quaeus to German sues) for Dutchmen’s bat seems still more and incredible than all the rest is that this paper money of ours is actually of more in the eycs of strangers and enemies than Our own. In Wall street, New York, they seem ‘to have more confidence in the stability of our govern. ‘ment and the value of our currency than apoo Main Richmond. We can sell Confederate onde in street, Liv it ay for three times the price we could getatbome. ‘We read: ‘i The Mobile Revister learns from the agent of the Atlantic Company of what elty that be ha just reoetred the jen of Au, t le Fetters ae late ust from Liverpool, in which he ts Confederate eight per gent bends st thirty-tive vents, and that thirty three bad been offered and refused for a large amount belonging to the company. This is @ stato of things absolutely monstrous, not paral leled, we believe. in any land or any ago. While we avem bent ou pulling down our own credit aud decrying ovr own currency and our Own cause, Englishmen, hay, the very Yankews, refuse to take our low estimate of our affairs, and bid us bo of good cheer Perhaps there is no effect ral remedy; there is far too mach at o country, three times #8 much as it ‘cam possibly bear,’ and more and more continually tes from the fnexorablé printing press of Mr Memmia . “Confederate Socteties,"” such as they aro organi ing in various cites, and county organizations, such as those which we bave heretofore commended, may, bow ever, do much by enlightening aud ccncentrating public opinion, sustaining confidence, preventing panic, and counteracting the interested representations of speculators. Wo fear a legislative maximura, but would cordially halle strong ond healthy pub'ic opwion, pervading town ond country, rewarding by peblic respect aud gratitude these who ve tO smane treasures at the country’s expense; and making itself terrible, oo ovtasion, to incorrigible extortioners and boarders, if thse orgavizations would add to local their objects the refusal to purchese or wear articles pur. chased in — foreign countries, while tho war laste, they would certainly do more to retrieve the credit Of our ourrency than any legislative measures could be expected to do, By proper combinations of this sort the country cout it least relieved of the disgrace and loss Of decryiug ite own credi\, Assuming that there is much paper circulation i the coun try a 19 ined for the exchange o{ commodities, then bees WO! PIS bey be brought down to three or four times, Or twenty times, their former rates, and M avy one wanted gold, could be pur- chased at titres or four fndred per cent advance ‘astead welve 5 A certain depreciation of our paper there necessa but then it can be measured, and accounted for, and within bounds. 11 is nut to be at the mercy of G every en FLomer snd foreatalion who goes about distally. ohabing head, ami pretending to abont the prospects: of the confederacy (as if he ly to frighten people Out Of their wits and ont of their monoy. ¢ Carried irg’ Oator ation. {vrom tbe Rietmond Enquirer, Oct. &] For several days pest the officers of conscription from the thirteen ional districts of this State have boon assembled in this city, for the purpose of comparing notes and adopting 2ome uniform plan of action Tt was ascertained, upon cousuliation, that over thirty thousand conscripts have been sent into the fleld during the past twelve months. fo response to an invitation from Colonel Shields, commandant at Camp Lee, the officers all assem died at'tho camp on Toeaday, where a collation had bode Yirepared for them. Among the gucets present we noticed nenerats Winder and Etrey, Governor Letober, Colonet § Paasett French, Mayot Mayo, and sevoral other promi- nent citizens of Richmond. “After partaking of an excel the cloth was removed, and Colonet J. 8 Preston, Chtef of the Bureau of Conscription, fo ee to repeated calis, rowe and cutertained the meeting with 4 fow patriotic and stirring remarks. We spoko of the responsible duties deesty ing apon the officers of consor! tion in the confederacy. the noble Roman of old who occupied tho Curdle chair tn front of tho Roman Sonate, hie sat tn the Curule chair of tne confederacy, and would ‘eudeavor to discharge bis duties faith ully, not withstanding that men bad undort»kon to brand lim and his oMficers as “acavangers,” He roferred brieiiy to tho course of Virginia from the commencement of the war speaking in oloquent torms of the ‘mother of States and TIFRALD. MONDAY OMTOVEN V2. 1863.—TRIPLLEY SHEET. * uw." He clowed py offering the following sents. rv inta—Io the Je for human liberties she bas Uustrated two goncuries fa bistory. ‘This seatimont was s esponded go by Governor Letchor Ho gaid bis term of office would shortly expire, but nis exertions for independance should aot ead with bis Guber- Batorial tefm. He could eater tho army—if not allowed {0 gO a4 & private, possibly he could get & porition as quarter Peta ena Md and bo didn’t know, but jought either position was protty good in these times fle spoke at some longth in regard to the position of Vir- Ginia previous to the assembling of the Convention, He Opposed the sssembiing of that Convention ov account of | the dissension and party division ip (ho Northwest. The Convention, however; did sss nble, but the State did nof | 60 out by the aotion of that body, she went out by his roply to Lincoln when bo tel for troops. It waa bis refusal to furvish Lincoln with troops that carried Virgiuta out of the old Union. Whgn he rofused that was & direot separati mn, Be was told that he had no constt tutional authority to Fefuse tuis domaud of Linooln, Ho kuew that, but he looked to the Convention to givo him the authority, Ho had done what no other man tn Virginia bad—ho advocated seces sion, square and fair, during the Gubernatoria campaign of 1869. . In ‘regard to the present strug gio ho said no had reason to believe that it would last as long aa tho American Revolution did. (Voices—“Never, nover.””) Well, gentiomen, you will ee, Some of you say it will ppt oy Liocolo'’s term of office So it will; but Lincoln will be the next Prosi dent of the federal government; if not by fair means, bo will by (oul. Thore will be ® dispute in regard to the electoral voto, and Lincola will step into. office again by usurpation, Linouln, a short time since, in the course of a conversation with Dr. Hamblin, said that he had been commissioned by God to restore the Union, and he meant to doit. His failure thus far bad been for the want of competent generals, not for the want of brave soldiers Lincoln inquired of ‘Dr. H. ‘what was the opinion of the Souther people in to the war?” The Doctor re- piled, they think it will last througb your term of of- “Ah,” said Lincoln, “do you think my term of of- fice closes with these four years? No, sir; there will be a diepate in regard to the electoral vole, and I shall be President another term, as God has directed.’ Yes, gea- tlemen, continued the Governor, we'are in for a long and bloody war and we must fight it eut, and we will it out, Gnally o ring @ glorious independence. South can never be subjugated. It is better that every man, woman and child be sacrificed than that the South ‘The Governor took iis seat amid loud applaase ernor 5 call vere shields then ad- e duties mother and duties to remember that clemency should be \ mended. He closed by tg ibe geet compliment to his officers, particularl, ainjor ton and Capt. Binford, nninanenal others, whose names the reporter could not oe nes were then made by General Winder, General or Toyo, and several mf) aaa iat patnnprtter P. M., the assemblage cole up, highly delighted with the evening’s eatertain ment. ‘The Sait Question tn {From the Richmond Enquirer ‘The following communication was received teow Gov- ernor Letcher:— Vi Pate a0 Lage ‘a. , Oct, 6. 1863. Gavrcamay ov Tae Senate 4ND or Dacecates oF Viranoa:— 1 bave received from his Excolleucy, Joseph E. Brown, Sieming ps ma So hn oe a State, which I transmit ‘These Papora present questi vat & serious obaractet, and to a jons of a charact them I Invite your attention. . This is not a time when controversies between the the confederacy ican be great mischief. If tne facts stated in t ial are true, our sister State of Georgie has been shamefully united. We are engaged in a controversy of the magnitude with our enemies, and we must avoi * troversies with our friesds. I trust action will re- move all cause of complaint, and will furnish ample of your friendly regard, and your dis- JOAN LETCHER, AtLAnta, Sept. 23, 1963. Hy Excauiaycy Tax Govsrwor or Virons:— Dran B foam, a member i ait i a 3] estredei eine Sige e i af E 22 gE ist documents were laid on the table, and or- ‘ted and referred to the Committee on Salt. ‘The Impressment System. CAN THB DIFYBKENOR BE ADJUSTED? Aaa general rule, the people everywhere are d: to sustain their government with zeal and and ali just and equal measures ‘igorous prosecution of the war. But they insist apon it that private,and personal, and property rights should be re- Spected and sustained by government and {ts officers, civiland military, Tt canvot be disgaised that the tm presement of the privato property of producers, and the paying therefor of an inadoquate price, ora price much below the market ra‘e,is proving tojuriogs in two re- epects. In the first place, it to altonate the affections of the people from the ent of their ob for thoy holt, and Juatiy hat the. frat great and param “uot duty of goveromoeat is to protect them ip their vested rights {is undoubtediy tne that the anost pressing present duty of the jederate Koverument is to protect the people from Yankee invasion, and to drive the abolition vandals from onr soll. And in order to do this effectuatly itis admitted that it may be necessary to touch some what on the rights of iudividuila,to the extent at least of seizing a part of their property without their consent which {3 9 law of self preservation everywhere. he people bold tbat when such seizure becomes necessary the rty so impressed shoul! be paid for at its customary the viclaage, for that {t 1s nominated in ch binds people to slingiance and govern ment to protection, that “just compensation” shal! be ripe property taken for public use " seccnd place, the policy of Impressmont, while it alienates the poo; doos not eflectually secure the end sought —the abun subsistence of the army — because it drives hundreds of producors, clandestinely or open!y,, to sell their stores to the noa-producers out of the army, who are willing and anxioue to pay fi'ty or a hundred per cent more than government pays. We are satisfied that as b {be rerumen’ ang ihe won roducers, api et ) pre fer to sell their whole surplus for subsisting the army— frovises government will pay as much as another party, ‘80 long as the t pays lees, the majority po pressment of one man's ate rootd sell it for, fan tna om that sian, tothe extant of the odious (axation. Leaving out of view the good or éy:! policy of attempt. ng to support the army by impressment, tne would submit to it when ed » alt somewhat odious and distaste(ul, provided the govern- Renedy doukte Conan is tudded vs Just man is en “ sation for property seized for public use, vat the dite ence if as to woat constitutes said just compensation, and the mode and manner of aeterm: ‘Governor Untortnoately, however, soon after the of this Dui case of impressiment oecurred in Virginia—of hay OF corn—and the appraisers pat Oo & moat exorbdi tant price. Acting thos on tbe presutnption that loyal and impartial eitizons would invariably extort from the government exorbitant prices, Congress po a sup plementary bill, providing that incase the impressing oMeer did:not approve the award of the apprelsent ho should so endorse on the appraisement, turn the matter of price over to be settied by the State Improse. mont Commissioners. Aa these comm'ssioners fix prices every sixty day, oF oftener, for @ whole State, their prices 7il} most probably be ‘always either too mach or too little for suuse articles in the various districts of a large State, And under this sypolemontary bi)! fnstrnc tions have Iasued from the War Department at Richmond probibitiog impreas| officers (rom approving any ap praisermeal in 6: the schedule price Oxed by missioners for @ ‘State. Thus, fn fact, the ciple of adjusting compensation by” the arbitramont of imopartial citizens of the vie! most importaut it becomes the Legislature of Virginia to rT i font w yan feature of the Improasmnont bitl—has been wholly a! we believe the whole ditioult, bo remediod nsliy: that the people will bovome pativied, and the army will be abundantly dubsisted. Lot the sion upon the gemsemabar tie buppenseniany 7 » ignore’ Impreagment act, and wundreeis orders under thi 5 According to tho proseut systom us duty of gad impressing supplies in bis toret- tory for the use of the army; por yg eens 18 usually @ person resident of the couaty of his appointment, Ought siways be ® person of intelligence, enone character, Lot the compensation then be determined, as provided by the original bit!, by two or three citizens of the vicinago, with only this restriction ov the commis nt; that be shall not approve an appraicomeat known to be extortionato, or matorially in exceed of the price customary iv the neighoorhood at the that ho Yorn poe Appraisoments not so In 6) and that be be ignominiousiy dismissed from and put in the ranks, if physically capable, formegiect ef failuro in duty. By this means, wo believe, without ad- dihonal legislation, the people’ will become Feonmotiedy but without it bad ‘feeling will continue to prevail, the army will be inadequately wuppliod with either wi beef or bacen. A Day of Rumors—A G: [From the Daily Enquirer, } The spirit of affliction ia the midat of victory, which half tho victory, wrested violenuy with rapidly predominating reaction in favor of gouge ral jolitfication,auccumbed, and finally ‘‘wont up’? alte. r under the ‘of @ luminous succession of rge and splendid rumors. Thecity was exhflarated te & generous glow of enthualaam early in the morning by # lurid picture of Chat in flames, and the sboils bd Lens toned any Due teree perteney, oes 8 ‘una Mm maguiiicens con! heads of the Yonkes arm , clustered in conate ae ler of Madam Rumor was oag: ceeded by the certain knocking of the irgnaides at Temnsuts of that. pecaliariy- objectipaable. monelet jonable moni winter quarters ‘outside of ee (Voices on the stroed oorners—‘‘Hurrah! The achievement growing a lit cool, rumor made movement i=) Tepnessee and brought up Johnston at Murfreesboro in a blaze of of triamph, and with bia heel on the head the terrible anaconda. “(Bully again!) ‘The noxt breoee “that, # from the northeast” brought to our ears the stirring, though familiar get along sound of ‘Lee in motion!’"— to Washington, of course. And on the heels of thi and portentious jit to have heble), followed, like disaster. or: the lat seep bal through e breach io a stone fence, the modest but report of the evacuation of the city of Norfolk. These poy i parched ‘and thirsty public, aod 3 pad a to bed dreamiog of au aurora borealis at all four CJ the compass. and a volcano of Confederate glory up in \he middle. Such a day for rumors hag never been hoe ee The disposition to. try were ¥ isponi of the several episodes above recorded was limited (0.8 veer fow Interested individuals, who could'nt be-com- ated with good news without wanting to know itcame from, and all about it. Their morbid fers 4 however, availed nothing, ‘and they got nothing for ‘¢ ing inside of the goose,” Tan a [From the Richmond Eaquirer, Oct. Hon, C. G. Muvwixann, becretary of the freasary:— My Dear Sin—Your favor of the 2d instant is requesting my views as to a remedy for the financial om- barrasment of our government. I do not think our @ hopeless one; but {t will require bold mon vg: fled that might havo ber [ced action of Congress last fall, which, , would bave ap Agha Ried i structive war, and the addition of bund to our national debt. We havo never, until recentiy, been without prospects of an early ,. whole count act op sbort war ws, Our greatest wisest commercial men and capitalists of all ¢: every household concern, have Who ig there that is pot now by the want of Crd small articles might bave been at y rates if the partic been able to look afew months oaly into the future. Many who now clamor and ead in denouncing what they deem the short st Policy of the adminis- tration, were foremost in. ing that there would be battle of Manassas no war, and even up to ‘Yankeos H ez 5 i £ e: i bil i i | te aE ge il : i it ij i bere oty will that it Is better to, ‘Toe capital the merebants whe have been driven out of }, aoe from trust estates and . . sources have been exhausted, wi make further progress in bonding ‘appeals ‘pat. We area Nar unlike the co! mations nae bvauibene ta woeeunite Sata caste, times We have no great money capitalists: | 2 5 i i f be rt i il q Tm a i 3 z3 5 Bg 35 i in a ue ii? i = ing ii : i 2g 2 if i “3 i i 3 i FY i g 4 2 33 Z s i ij a market Many are not willing to sell ‘This is all very netura!, but it Hoon and starvation to towns iH H Fee at ; Ff iy if i i i i Ff ‘ f i fl i i i s ue i ~ t{ il ‘i a § | ; goversmest has uadertaken ©, moet complicated jot ‘this matter. The tax in kind relieves Ccultariat from the necessity of going into tbe markets his products to procure money with which to pay hie taxes. You make bina Ebnpendent, & TSeey notes, which are refusing to take for debts, tor which they a te OS This mode of taxation relieves the agr: from the me- consity of hauling his grain and other to mar- ket, Thine relief from Le > ot , ity ore havdred miles to ® depot, at his own rink. ‘This would be all very well were {t not for its ofecta om the circomsoribing ite feld of circalm- tion, and by di ae Ie dose, with the, scotty exist for planters to re anwiliing | 0 hold longer thea veal 4 steven per ‘Gout ehould be the established Koreroment to Induce inveatmenta, and potes ought to be placed oo the same Otherwise there will be confusion and distrust. z . 2 3 By 2a bat wiehout ability to meet ‘by HOw loans. Interest i a matter of com means to ments