The New York Herald Newspaper, April 17, 1862, Page 2

2 NEW YORK HERALD, THURSDAY, APRIL 17, 1362.—TRIPLE SHEET, most aid in ite eraio'ion, yet from the nature of the subject it is ou.y by the co-operation ¢ local au- IMPORTANT FROM EUROPE. Uhorities 1 cau be eifectively devit with; and the rebeliioa, though ig intensifies and c hgoit-intes o' inion against the ee imatitition, does not remove the uvcessity (or thie co. Seperation. "Hut this cooperation is easily secured. coeur only the wiltoe cure it,tofnd we way o seouro| The Canada at Halifax with Two it, A manifestation of the spirit of justice on the of the nation, and a dispsition to do Days Later News nto the people of the South as the people of the North would be dove by under sim. lar circumstances, is al! that is necessary. If! am asked to be more se flo in detining the polioy this spirit a SO, At her leisure, ‘and this engagement has’ "0w ected for | Forts were better than ships, and at Ports- \ ever the relative capabilities of wooden and yYOR ships tm | mouth, as there was note su@iociout depth ates for war. (Hear, hear.) The Americans them ves were eols carrying very heavy guns to maxmuvro so satisied with the result of their mOB ves- | Bpithoad. oantry sei that thoy were going to construct many ochera; | tuo Admiralty seemed aiways the Sasi to take aly: and he saw by one journal that thoy had abandox' Of those inveations. He attribu it to there beim: ao the idea of defending thoir harbors by means of forte | Oompciont Bad to dectie what inventions should be Great objections were formerly raised to the new priu- | @dopted and what should aut. (Hoar, shear. ciple of constructing ships of tron. And objeetic Lord A, Tamrmsr suid that as ferrimac stil made to going one step further thay they had dove, | afew words would act be without iumerest. (Hoar and constructing the whole navy of the couctry of irom, | heur.) There waa some misapprebensiom with cegad Put he believed till they did @o they should mot be able | t) ber. Although che was a most p wer ve-sel, she to reduce their naval expenditure. (liear, how.) The | was mot calculated for arything but smo thevater, Ow- to find occupation abroad. gained renown im these in © Certain a desire to display thoir talents against some ctbor enemy than their own eountipuaen: It is thought that the first external action of the restored and reinvigorated Unten will be in Mexico, und that the schome for establishing a monarchy thore wi fr the ground assoom as your government 1s ina condition to oppose it by something more eiilcient than @ mere protest. As it is, the Pehde is pur- suaded that Nepoleon and Isabella will be as unsuc «# Cl im their endeavors to make the Archduke Maximili Emperor of Mexico as Mr. Russell, of the London Zin: mes nding that money of all has, at leust, bun rene: = 7 lige cont coms. Surely we may o4!l on the Chan Coil r of thé Excheyuce, WhO sometimes upbraids the House for tts proflizate expenditure, to support Lue pro Position of thy Lonorabk’ member for Cha tiam in (he teus ons int + Cabinet? | understand that the re © @ rovurus, evnoeruing wis.” We & © Lear som, thing om Thursday, will presou am &p'PO4 NCO More Lavo: Olt {am, OF rather not a) uu.avorae 4 Many pergous hd ox;ected; but Tay assore abe Hove that, jus 6 from the sete o: things in te North of england, ould beget, t you to the policy of Abraham Lin- ¥ wes in transforming th hern confederacy into a kin, adoption of iron as the material of construction words do | ti the Woteht of (ae plates put upou l ewertn. | brere ina vi during the next fala bogs, T pois you to ihe poicy of abratam Lo; | The Malls of the Norwegian and City | gusta rsnsforming teevthern cvode czy into king | sierra of on a he mali omer ge | ee al acai nae eee wa Sead ‘ove | na'taa ce wegen rutaetny tak ora fang ing Mexico for Venetia, and giving the Emperor of Aus- | up inthe dockyards. ‘The government would merely have | wie: bot the deck for he: gun ports. ‘Ths swtes wee | Of in the rovenue, and very groat su. ring among the Tit Zan apon tw bo chy Comes velown of Baltimore in New York. Ne ee oa ik Lines’ rrexrommnet aa ee see ot sntsthat tcp eamotaive | Our Paris and St. Petersburg pong ge enema ang nergy nny Correspondence. negro population in any considerable numbers, that any scheme of coloni- zation must algo be a@ failure, TI is a vast dif- ference, however, beinoou we idea of being <o.| The English Parliament on the and being buried in Alrica. It ts the diffresce s. Detwoon Ife aud death, home and banishmest. Thetact | Revolutionin Naval Warfare. that even now many of these persons are going to Hayti, and that multitudes of them have for years been looking out for an asylum in some neighboring country, has STonsuet en anteation erase ae aes ten tno> {ron-Armored Vessels Against poneen Wallv tria thy enubian privcipaltties or Bosnia and the Herr @vina as a further comyensation, is scouted most d pen and certainly Russia would never agree +2 such jects. THE REVOLUTION IN NAVAL WAR. Debate im the British Parliament om the Subject of Iron-Clad Ships and Land Fortifications—Effect of the Battle Be- tween the Merrimacand Monitor—Tho Last Days of «Wooden Walls”—Exor- tio: gland—Captain Coles’ Pla: of Cupolas and Gun Towers, &c., do. © In the House of Commons on the 31st of March, Sir ‘Sanrs rose to call tho attention of the Secretary for War ‘der the iron when they wanted it; if they chose vo ships by contract, they could do go; but they could reduee the eaiablishwnents now kept up at 810: great coat, aud they would be able to know with cortaluty what the naval expenditure of the country woud be. er) Oe. objections to adopting iron that had lately bee 0 tm the House merged themselves into this— that they could aot use trom to build @ small oiass of vessels for foreign service, because they wore Mable te fouling, ‘The only remedy for this, and the one that would be found tho cheapest in the end, was to provide more dock acoommodation for cleaning and repairing veasels on thoir foreign sta- ons, The outlay for bringing ships and steamers home for repairs was very large. If an accident occurred to & veasei on the Kast or West India or the Amorican sta- tiona, un'eas the means of repairing he wore at hand, she must bo brought back to this country, and the ox- pense of doing this was enormous. (Hoear.) Sooner or later must provide groater O.:Fied up wt an angle of forty-Ove, and at the dup was open bar roofing, the cougsjuonce of which was thas ping @ Goa would certainly «ink her. (Hear, hear.) r Qh> Mv tor, he th sigh: she was more power she bad inate voyage tu rough Wealcer ; ork Fort Monrve, but it was no ds- Paragement to the gallantry of the officers aud crew « the Merrimac to gay that sho was oniy Us (or river pur- Poses, and that the “suticipation of her being abie to cross the Atlantic was not weil founded. ( , hoar.) ‘The honorab\e member for Chathain was eniiled ty the itude of the Howse for having brou.ht forward this im poviant , and be submitted that the time was working 04° @s—muun aly wor tio, Wad 041 Lope sulformg ¢ 1 know anything Of, 'b ca Wee tia borne #0 sileotiy and heroically, (Hvar, hear.) But th peonle comnttin. if they are tm distress «84 from pe Cviltf thair own, the more carefat'y ough: t. ™ mot and bis House to watch that oo a single rthing of tho moiey which is extracted from. them is ex, ¢ Wie 08 works waiou have been shown by one of the yrast SE 88 ¢'« ri'tog in the co ntry, the hon able member for Ch:6 bam, w be unnecessary. (Hear, hear.) think weer 9° titied (0 ask the gov» mment not to commit thom elve ¥4 suything further in this respect, and to abstain ‘row. © volving the country further expenditure. We ma, *, be gure that before | ed shall receive from the other de of the Atlantic reports of <cientific men, ané more ouinpiete information with rexard to this matter Without going into which, I agreo with the honorable mo.aber (or Galway ia inevitable, but which is not, perhaps, 80 oe oved as to usttty_a great chinge of poly, we may call upon the |, and thus rave to the dock accomm dation \dmiral Robina, in his evi- government Lo suspend proceeding: and to what had recently occurred: in Amorioan waters, with A 7 untry ab least a million of the outisy to , Land Fortifications. & view of sahsequently patting « question concerning tho ag wie oureabrea.en hastily. lowe, 5 ated bs gt , former cocasions he had protested: against tne consteue- tid down, : § meren tenis ; ‘Could not kag. 4 been #ubof thei! wits by the .ction on the THR NEW WORKS AT SPITHESD “tee af works upon Portsdown -Hill,-becauge be: ne the ‘result of what. bi : : eo he-aides t vee esas ronnie: ~ We sbould never be dble to garrison-e)l the forts. He would be bo direc! the ; ‘ay of @olid fertifoattens THE FEELING IN FRANCE, | msoter'er iors ‘vies be pope tosoontersl actos Shih pe outta aint seh and cae the forts, boosuse at the time he thought auch measores wersels. ee , z omer won ope tee) cents neces fondo were necessary; but recent events had induc- ee and smamber for Chatham voted for the erection e4 him to alter bis opinion, and, as the subject was one to mack with on foreign shores. wt tee teint Torta; tho member for Wakellela wrove i i : i i Russian Opinion of American would embrace it in the firat year. I do not myself Military Affairs. doubt that ten times that number would be found in the , and that the establishment of such a colony would be followed by an outpouring of this population Ike the outpouring of the Mississippi when acrevasse is | TRO English Invasion of Mexico opened. It is indeed so manifest that this population : tends by nature to that region, that I could as soon duabt Officially Abandoned, thik water would scek ite level when permitted to flow, fas that this race would not seek its natural home when at ) iA couse was adopted they should not be able te reduce the present enormous naval expenditure. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Gracory aald the ovent that had lately occurred im Amorica appvared to him a great ‘and entire revolution in the art of naval warfare. (Hear, hear.) It was ucither more nor legs than that; and the Amorioan nowapapers had been congratulating themscives that in consequca:e of what nad ccourred the naval superiority of Kngiand was atanend. But he took the procisely contrary view. (Hear, hear.) He thought that England, with its echanial a} of vast importance to this country, he felt it to be his duty 10 Invite the attention of the House to it, He would aud spoke for them; he himself voted for that measere but subsequemt investigation had shown that it was em absurd mistake. They had come forward and acknow: ledgod their error, and he hoped that the right honoruble: baronet the Secretary of State for War wold reconsider ihe matter, aud #e@ whether the chanxe of circumatanoes did not it necessary that the erection of these for- tifloations should be at pped. Mr. B. Ow-orwe—I waa in hopes, afer the numorous and distingul ed ins¢.uces of conversion te a convicts Z ine ey pinion ger rbject and ite ‘uy op! upon au an neces: alty; ‘Due T warn the Horse uxeinss entertaining any ex- ion that that change can be male ovherwise than by a tissue, and, happily, without any action on our part (Hear, hear.) It appeared that a vessel, which afew months back was a wooden ship, was sunk, was then raised, cut down to within three feet of the water, cased liberty to go%there. Thecensus shows that it gravitates bel he if ‘the wealth’, 8. and ample supply of coal | corresponding larye sacrifice of public muncy. (Cheess.) @° the non-nucessity of these forts which wo have hevré to the tropies, so that, even under existing conditions, | Lapture of the New York Packet 8) | with iron two fest below the water line, and the tron | ong ce ala wot only provide Py ine | Tthink It wil be more sonventect to the’ House not to | $2-uight, chat we should have heard aiso of that of het it ig but a question of time; and that it will free itself Pt hip York | Casing brought ovor the deck inthe form St’ « root, but On ty MN Pee ake a ait Ine | cute: lito that large discuasien at the present momont. | MAlesty's goveram-nt, (Hear, hear.) Ihave beou very not absolutely forming a ridge, with an aperture on deck for ventiiation. In order to break the blockade of when it goa there, we have also seen, so irresistible is town by a Rebel Privateer. uch dinsspoluted at the speech 0) tie Secretary of Btabe (fear, hear.) It i, tn fact, « quastion main affoctin natural law. Mi. Lincoln only proposes to oboy opposite that money expended on fortresses would be | tho naval ostimates. If the House be of opinivu thut | f° bocanso, if we are to unterstan: any ihing from this natural and irresistible law and facilitate its the Chesapeake that veevel moved down to Hampton | OPiNONG, 200, way’ Forta would only be buoys and | this revolution ia to be elfected 1 apprehend it will pro- | $i! speech, |: must be that hor Siajesty # qoveram.a: are Roads, where she found several vessels constructed of wood, with considerable power, most of them weil armed, Dut not all well manned. She engaged those vessels; de- siroyed one by running into her; was injured herself in 80 doing; ahe destroyed another by firing ner, and kept the rest of theaquadron at bay. iat was a gallant ep- ploit, up showed that the captain must have had great confidence in the iron casing of his vessel, which there wes reason to believe was five inches thick. Private from the {ron covering of the Merrimac without having about fo cush to this enormous expendituse in spe ef the evidence of the events which have occur: ed in Hamp. tom Roads, I tuink that my honorable friend the mem- be for Birmigham bs b'-n unnecessarily hard apes the right honorable barow i the mombor for Prottwick, beorise therecan be no doubt that that right honorable geotl-man was ‘he firat to draw the atrention of the coun- try to the difective state of our navy, unt he ought aot to be tau with what was in fae groat merit on his rt. (Hear. hear.) It has bew said that the Admiralty are opposed to all change, but 18 was the Admiralty ot bust diy that proposed these floating batteries. It wax my late lameuted friend Ad- miral Stv R. Dundas, then Firat Sea Lord, who broughs torward this very schome, and proposed to convert twoaty useless lind-of battle ships into floating battories to defend Portsmouth and other harbors, at @cost aot exceeding £640,000, instead of erecting enormous forte which will cost considerably more than a million and @ half, That proposal was negatived by the cngincers, who thougit there was nothing like stone and mort for building, and therefore I de not think that the Admiralty are open to the tnsinuation that they set uty of my noble friend sitting near me ( J. Le propose # supplemomtary ostimate of some £10,000,000 oF £15,000,000 ($75,000 000). | (Laugh ter.) That will be the practical result of tie naval revolu- tion wiech has leon skechel. But [abstain enti e!y from entering upon that part of the question. I merely wish to advort Wo the question of ich the howabie and gailant ber for Chatham Ngee notice, The question which he submitted to the House is identical wiih oav which was brought under the notice o. the Defence Coin mission by Lord Herbert on the 1th of February, 1861, ‘and ujon which that commission made a care(ul report. ‘The question reierred to them was, ‘the possible sub- stitution of iron-cased ships im cortain lecalities for such C63 as oan be constructed only at all provability be completed oe! suggestion had partioular rele rence to Portsmouth aad the Isle of Wight. The Defence Commission, composed of projessional military men. engineers—reportedjtheir opinion in the following mi ner:— L_ Wo adhere with the utmost confidence to the opiaion = e indications by which an enomy might pass into the har- bors. (liear, hear.) The description of the late battle givon la tho Pimes stated that the o heavy shot from the land forts fell off from the Merrimao like hail from a tin roof, and shot weighing 180 pounds wore fred by the Monttor at the Merrimao, when they wore lying muzzle to muzzle, (Hoar, bear.) If that was the case, what could the forts do? 10 be of any use they must have guns powerful enough to meet euch ships, and if they had guns of such enormous magnitude firtag them would be like springing a mine within tho walls. Jones’ angular target of tron, four and @ half inchos thiok, re Glated, at a distance of two hundred yards, the Arm- strong bolt shot, weighing one hundred and ten pounds. ‘What, then, were they to dot He would read the advice given to the government of land by Mr. Ericsson himself, in his letter to the Amerioan Naval Department, explaining his reasona for calling his iron vessel the Monitor. The letter, asit appeared in tho Times of that morning, said:— ‘Tho i ble aud aggressive character of this structure will admontsh the leaders of the Southern rebellion that the batteries on the Operation. It is the disregard of it which has oreated the disorder under whieh the body poli- tio is now auitering. Can it be doubted that the fever will abate rapidly when his policy is adopted? And, indeed, such ig the nature of the case that I fool warranted in saying that the disturbance will cease as soon as it is known that the nation has uccepted Mr. Lincoln’s policy, and before a single negro has left ‘the Union. Tho outbreak, ag I have already said. sprang from the convictions in the common mind in the disturb. ed region that the nexroes were ito be liberated and put upon an equal foot.ng with the whites. The mere idea of t tiou was instrumental in producing the rebellion. ‘@ was no actual emancipation. The idea of the separation of the racg is @ complete antidote to that poisvu, it is the duty of the national government make the provision Mr. Lincoln recommends. That government alone has the contro! of our external rela- tious, and therefore the States could never be relieved of And I will take the oooasion to say that, in my. judgment, ‘the represeniatives of the North will very soon find that TRADE OF THE REBELS TO LIVERPOOL. THE ENGLISH PRIZE RING, ken ke, he ‘The steamship Canada, from Liverpool on the Sth and Queenstown on the 6th of April, reached Halifax yeater- day on her voyage to Boston. Hor news is two days later than that brought by the Norwogian at Portland. ‘The English House of Commons on the 4th inst. debated the question touehing the relative value of fortifieations and floating batteries, and resolutions were adopted pro- viding for a suspension of the works at Spithead. It will shortly also consider the expediency of empowering the government to use the money already voted for the forts or covering vessels with iron decks; but it might be objeot- ea that buch voseels could not navi rieigak in bad of the permanent defe s gs they will be called on to act by their own peopie. The 7" formeriy expressed as te the necessity for the forts Cor eputr:bands im the construction of iron sheathed vessels. into action ; both were: trance of the Union fc The iron. themselves against this imorovoment. From the soatrsbanda are going Nori and i, will soon be de. | '™Sonsols closed ou tne ath int. at 99%, 29836 for monoy. | Semi ons great imparance fw, wahn we were com: | inirader lus proves ido Moaitor 1a,thate lacdiny. | Suler worcaon No-Sat'e Land apa floras Saad, which gre | speed made by the Secretary, of Sate for War, we South do ‘not differ from their Prestabatll siedh quiet: Wane daclkcing.” Peovisiecs (arnt paeeeene tase thane Tee tals ie. EAU. | TeLaeen oe oo ined tea coke toomn lew cacaearnts 1 Pat aero nae Oe tae tak Hee EEE TADEL | GC macuoy tale Sel beads wan eee eememan == that this population shall be provided | cuiet, American securities firm. Fee oe esi but he would wish to gee them till | iron turret. Downing sttect wilfhardiy view wiih (udife- | which the ‘Spit’ and ‘Intermediate’ forte cxduot ‘alford, | what is to be the cost’ of tho forte or'wast 1 tobe eran nems ts we Retreat te ‘ pad been reduced, Hoar, hear.) "Lat the Flouse consiier | Tencs this last Yankee notion—this “Monitor.” To the Lords | owing to the depth of water near them being insufflctent for | Chon uso whon they are tullt, Het a ‘The wisdom of Mr. Lincoln’s policy | Our European files by the City of Baltimore and Nor- the question of how those forte could be co Mthey | ot the Admirally the new craft will bee “Monitor,” suggcet- | suchoring purposes, "Thess two outer defences also, com. See se pee je has Sach, CAO Fil vindloate itself thon, if not before. |The eiicacy of | wogian are to the 3d of April. ‘The papers contain some | wore to mount 380 guns, and would require 2,100 trained Be oe ee Oca ant t bail mallions apletes ‘On tome aad besa tele in Hautpion Risda, Motmiatis the eptienes . Lincoln's propos! give pecuniary aid to very interesting details of the telegraphic reports of the who would have to fire at moving objects with | many similar grounds I propose to name the now battery for of ths doctor v he wae om board the ress? It is mest the —- may wish — Fcargua Levi emancipation already published tn the Hunazo. a . ‘Bhe right honorable baronet would perhaps | “Monitor.” on the Starbridge {s, in our opinion, only second inimpor- | conciusive. He says that as goon as Merrimao, or, ee ee | : the forte were in course af construction; that | Hs trusted most sincerely that thas this vessel would | tance tothe two just menuoned. It completes tne circle of | ag I driiove suv is nw oniled, the Virginia, got withis eee pecdite my paen, eater’ (ue Wioklite), ‘The letters of our correspondents in Parisand &. Pe- “Monitor” to the: Lords" of the Admiralty, | defences.w a sorocd fag apanst ou suey om the anchor. | r,age.<‘we oponed fire ou her,. We ‘a3 woR have ‘who, I believe, reflects of inion | tersb to-lay, show that the naval ‘What wore theauggestions that ted “ i , fro uta moving iceverg. The shot. off her (res. ‘ feel! urg, given, ry, great revoe “passage of the. Sole Ive ter to, a {9 pad Be wal of Sie Beate and Sua ats Ses aie it | lution effected by the ‘battle ‘Between the Moniter and Winols might bare been abliged to regire, petocs 8 Sheathlog like talistones off « tin * © © Nearly only as @ part of the President’s poli 7, eat ho regarded | Merrimac, the question of the constructies of iron-er- ae cieet Le rmuates of tho Needing aeeiesn: cee pis ie See erent has severed: cs preter it with Cee Lidge 904 por yon py 4 navies resulting therefrom, with the war anid po- ‘There are-gouis further remarks, and they say:— kere Ie Chfs ts not evidence, with what evi- Gan atecpace beeatise while he differed on other | litical mews from the United States, engrossed a very 2° Woebnatiber the mized scheme of defenite by fortsand auxin. | @-nee-w.ll the rigit, honorable gent . be content? Pang public paler with hie ditingulabed brother the | iarge ahare of attention in the Frenek and) Ruslan capl- seater he ee cree aa ne tec | juuided in cling upon her Majesty's goverousut to ges- badge Toe upon eat ae wo re: tals. . r ‘} be ‘owen commencing the forts, and in constructing as many | jend—(hear, hear)—at least to a: i—these exten. Fight in fa ltapression, then {am sutherived to say that ‘iain Cd Ieon-caed vewgee as are easontinty noressary for Ube abore,| sive oparations, which re likely ot only to be moat oa. 2 ir Paris Corres; jomce. Z .pensiye, but most unnecessary. I do not ti w the views of the President, taken as a whole, will be ac- po" terms. (Hear, hear.) uggestion from Mr The report of the Defence Commission amounteil sub | ‘tice hee been done to Captaits ‘Cow Coles. i van Pans, April 1, 1862. The French Press on Our Naval Revolution—Alarm o England—Ejfect of the Abolition of the Passport System— Slidell and His “ Legation," dc. While the English journals, since the arrivalof the news of the remarkable naval battle betwoen the Merri- mac and the Monitor, have been filled with articles in re- lation to it, the French press bas said very littie about it. Indeed, with the exception of a few general remarks at the time the news first arrived, and a long article in the Patrie of last evoning—which, however, is nothing ! by that geutieman; for I received a letter from his brother, in 1868, warmly sustaining those views as explained by me in speech of that year; and I will take occasion to say, that although Mr. Robert Wickliffe ‘was never amomber of Congress, or otherwise engaged nistering the federal gvvernment, yet ho was the foremost of those extraordioary statesmen and lawyers who have rendered the State of Kentucky 60 {Hustrious iu the history of the Union. He was the com- of the great John Breckinridge, Henry Clay, Har- Bledsoe, and other great minds who have passed the scone. Iam not of those who be ieve that it ia impossible for this government to put down this rebe!- Yon and emancipate the slaves or make any other dispo- E stantially to this:—That the best pian for the defence o! Portsmouth wasa combined system of forts and tron-cace! ships. They did not rely on ono or the other, but ona combinatipn ef both. question is, how much that system ought to be modified in consequence of the expe rience derived from subsequent events. (Hoar, hear.) ‘The honorabie momber for Galway seems to think that the recent action points to # revolution in the art of naval warfare. Idonot myself presume to speak with authority on the question. I merely judge from tho reports which I receive from those whe have profossion- ally and technically studied the subject. The i mation which I have lately obtained leads me to the conclusion that, in the opinion of the most a : Ericsgon’s lotter was that the whole character of naval war was changed. Formerly this oountry relied om individual courage of tte seamen. When they had once boarded an enemy's deck itwas thought the batile was over. They cold not board now; i was a mere tradition of the Boarding the sloping side of such a vesze! aa the firciman would be like scrambling up the roof of a house. And when an attempt was made to board the Monitor not a soul was to be seen. (Hear, hear.) The bravest boarding party might now, by some new device, be met with a shower of hot water and steam. (Hear, bear.) ‘The recent event had solved whole question of colonial was brought forward last year, and on that think that it was very much discouraged by the noble lord the Secretary of the Admiralty. Lord ©, Pacut—No, no, én Ossonxe—At any rate, no ship has been built om Lo: pla: 8 «dC. Paomt—There vs @ shin now building on that pen. Mr. Ossorwa—I am very glad to hear it. What doe ‘tain Coles offer ? He says that he will for a small sum of money convert line-of-battle ships which are lying idie into shield ships, which insy form a cuast patrol to de fond your harbors. Lam glad that this discussion hee taken place, but I think it will be totally useless if wom to prevent an en from oooupying certain points with a view to vombarding Portemouth dock- yard, Vessols like the Merrimac or Monitor would take little heed of such works. In giving up the forts thoy must give up the works on the Isle of Wight. ‘The pas- gage of the Needles must bo defended, and thore wore forts there arene cps landing — ae guarded; but bo occupy a few ground in 0: Prevent an Portsmouth dockyard was Poon ito (tear hear.) Tho officers. who Hi i sition of them that may seem good. That opinion bas | more ghan a detaiied description of the fight—there have | fought tke ection in amerion {0 which be had referred | tain* built 1 only i th ; it im ninety days, and costi £60,000, | experienced persons, the engagement im question throws | not only the converts, but the thirty-nine articles, of deen put forward generally by who did not wish | Sr ommente made upon tt, The fast of the matter | regarded as, eettiod the question between wooden | had’ gums of such calibro that they’ were & most | litte light upon the qualities of tron-clad vessels. 1 | whom { hapyen to be one, who originally voted agalust see the rebellion put un ier foot. [ observe that much ee a thi goverament ooul'! never 6 .bjugate t States, an ‘we ean appreciate the sincerity of their declarations whea we consider that the & itish government itself holds y two hundred millions of people in the very ovu- dition to which some of its public men aeclare that this government cannot subject the seceded States. As far ‘@s physical power is coucerned I have never doubted the ability of this government to reduce the seceded States end su! them to any terms we may choose to dictate; but I contend that we cannot subjugate them without maintaining « vast army and without changing the very form of our imment. We cannot emancipate the slaves of the South and maintain them in the condition of freemen upon the soi! of those States without the pre- ‘sence of an immense force equal to that which ts required to set them free. It caunot be done because no law cau De executed which is against the sense of the people of g@community without the application of force. This is Klustrated by the Fugitive Siave law, which bas been held to be constitutional, and which is acquiesced in by ‘a vory large majority of the people of the North, and yet it has been evaded and resisted, and its execution in al most every given instance costs the goverument morethaa ue O( the save rendered up under it. This is because the law ts repugnant to the moral sense of a large body of the Northern people. How will you execute of emaneipation which will ret free the slay South upon the soil and among ® people the whole body of whom are opposed to ud who have taken up arms in rebellion against this very idea of negro equality? It can only be done by the presence of an immense army, sufficient to prevent the white race from re- enslaving the black, and by waging a constaut war upon the peopie of our race for the protection of the biack race. How long would it be endured by the Northern People that a war should be waged upou the people of their own race at the South to make the blacks their equiis: 1 do not believe that any party could retain pewor xt the North upon such an issue. We should not Overlook aucthet covside tion in dealing with this sub. ject. Our arinies are ¢omposed of men,and men act slike \nder gimilar ciroumsiances. Northern men in the bare not noted for any particular projudize against slavery, aud the sol whom it will be necessary to maintain at the South iu order to secure the freelom of the enfranchised siaves, may come to look upon the matter in diferent light, and willetate what I myselfsaw. A model of the side of the Warrior was set up at Shoeburyness, and made the sub- joct of experiments in order to test its resistance to very Gore ordnance ata very moderate distance. The resuit was, that scarcely any effect was prod.iced on the plates. (Hear, hear.) In that instance we had as complete proo! Of tho qualities of iron-clad vessels as was afforded in the recent action. There is no doubt that tie Merrimac is pot a seagoing vessel. Tho Monitor, perhaps, might go some distance out to sea. Of course we must not assume that an attack on our coast, ifever it tako place, will be made simply by wooden vessels, over which our iron voasels might have an eaay victory. We must expect io sea tron opposed to tron. Tho quostion becomes whether, by the improvement of artillery, forts might not be enabled to main/ain the same advantage over floating batleriss which thay have hither!o possessed. It isa maxim, I apprehend, in maval warfare, that all floating batteries inferior to those on land, [am assured that the effect of the recont oxperiments with n-cased vessels will only be to stimulate the inventive powers of our engincers in the ef- fort to produce some ordnance which will be forcible enmih to emash ths sides of the tran-clad ships, and I hope they will not be long in achiaving that resul’. (A laugh, and ‘Hear, 'fnat is the problem which ihe military engineor dhe may consider it a triumph in this outiny—if the House does not insist upon her Ma- jeaty’s government nt spending anther shilling upon bop fyi until we are ina position to know ‘hat they wild be able to hold their on against the monsters of the Comp Sir J. Paxinvrox—The question wi very ably and clearly oy my honorablo friead the member for Chatham & question of extreme importance, but it is not an Adtmirait; I entirely agree with the Secretary State for War that it would not be wiso for us, in the transi- ion state in which we now are, to be have our policy affected by every report that ; Dut, on the other hand, tt is impes- sible tu deny that the clroumstances of the action im James river have been most remarkable, and are closel; connected with the a ion which bas been thi vat expressed by that high authority Captain Coles, that the erection of thess forts would nut be the best mode of defending Spithead. I canuet but express my regret atthe language we have heard from the 4 state for War, and from which I gather that her asonye government are di:posed lo adach mw weight at allt 1 vcurrence. but to per ser? at ak hacards, withou: any de lay, and without any furthsr conside-a'imn or reftec'ion, te pend this ba fe oon of money sen the construcciun’ of these forts, (Hoar, hoar.) The question isa vory difs- cubt one, but the impression mace upyn my mind by the intelligence frum America is sich that, cousidoring the great expense involved and the doubtful policy of con- structing these forts, 1 wish the government had iott- mated more clearly than 1 igut honoradie gentleman hag done tuat they were disposed to consider anxiousiy what is the reai tendency of that intelligence before tbey determine to persevere with these works. (Hear, hear.) Lord C, Pacer—I must say that { think my right honor. able friend the member fur Deoitwich has misled the House as to what wasauid by the Secretary of State for War. What he said, a8 | understood him, was—and with that I entirely cuncur—that uuportant as isthe eveut, Which réoantly oce wrred on the other side of the Atian- tio, it shows nothing 80 dectacd as to the morits of trem cxsed.vessele of which we wore previously iguovens as to oblige the government suddenly to svt asides plea which has been adopted ater the maturest and gravest deliberation. [important as this action has buen, what, F ack the House, has really beou (aughi us by ity We bw known for some time that vessels cased with armor of a certain thickno-s would resist the projectiles which are koown tn the present day. We havo boon goiog through very careful experiments at Shveburyness, and we know hat irmcasod ships were very much superne to wooden ones. What bas beon the result? and irom vessels. The Navy Departmeat at Wash- ington bad issued Invitations for tenders for tho construction of vessols of all descriptions, partly wood and iron. These were to be vessels of certain draught of water for harbor duty, vesselsafor river ser- vice, others for coast defence. Tho tenders were to be sent in by the end of March, and immediate would be taken to form a flees of a most formidable Those vessels which were intended to defend harbors and the steam fifteen knots, to carry leven days’ coal, and were to béarmed with eleven inch guns. We came of it, dangerous invading force. No fortifications now ocon- structing could beat them. But by building the same kind of vessels the colonies might defend themselves with less outlay, Our superiority on the American fakes would be poe much endangered by this now class of vessels. It always been said that though the Americans might overrun the border, yot in Quebeo they would fad a difficult nut to orack; but since the introduc- tion of these destructive instruments of warfare the case was very different. If the Warrior had mot the Merrimac it was # matter of grave doubt whother the angular sided vessel would not have overcome her varti- ‘aided antagonist; but if the Warrior and the Monitor had met there was title Cray cage Come perry have plunged into unprotected paris Ye a Tee oould, fact, haws overcome the pride of the Britich navy. Again, how useless would the fortifica- tions of Alderney be before such vossela, (Hear, hear.) What could be the nse of sponding monoy on fortifications whon a battery could come from Cherbourg, sail right in, and knock every ship in the harbor into lucifer matches without receiving the slightest — Chorbourg it- soil was the most notable —= of the folly of build: ing these fortifications. He hoped the government would take phen story 4 bel cosas, tion. If inst go i ing 0 4 mmifing after the traditions of Blake and 5 Tecrguept commodated ourselves to the facts which had met our rye and made proper use of this salutary Leston, might be able to diminish our expenditureo—(bear, bear)—and to pro- vide an imprognable line of @ which all the Pow- ersof Europe would uot be able to break through. (Heear, hear). Sir J. D. Hav anid that whon tho Defence Commission first gave in thoir report he was of opinion that the forts at Spithéad wero absolutely necessary, but he had now IMs views—(hoar, hear)—and' he was confident ‘that it would be better for the publio good if the money were spent in the construction of vessels 0° the now de- scription for the ‘lefence of the port, because thess ves sels could be mado a3 strong ag forts, and a movab'e fort must be much mors valuable than a stationary tortifica- tion, (Hoar, hear.) Under theae circumstances he agrood in that particular with the gallant mombor for Cinthia; bat. there wore some special circumstances towhich ho had alluded which roquirod acme slight explanation, He did not quite agree with the honorable geutioman in all the inferences which he had drawn from the late action and from the experimonts which had been made ia reference to the construction of tron forti ‘and ships; nor oonld he quite agree with ths honorable member for Birkenhead in his proposal that the am: is that mow you have demonstratea by actual experiment what England and France have been theorizing about for the past three years. The English government is really alarmed at the comparatively umprotected condition im which this naval revolution places her, and at the rea; superiority of the French mavy over hers. France can afford to keep quiet now, when Fngland is in such a terrible state of excitement; for while the latter bas been talking the former bas been at work building irom-clad vessels. In view of the facts in relation to their efficiency, amd the greatly superior number of iron. clad vessels, which France has, England may well be come alarmed, and call upon the Admiralty to hurry up their slow coaches. The suppression of the passport system in the United ‘States will have the effect to send to your shores a au! ber of Southerners who have simply been remaining in Europe because they could not bring themselves up to the sticking point of taking the oath of allegiance quired before the Consul would issue a passport. Some have swallowed the bitter pill and committed perjury; but I know of several cases where persons from the South have refused to do this, and some have been living in Paris alinost without means for several months past. Mr. Eustis, the Secretary of Legation of Siidell’s private ombas- sy, has ca.ied several times upon the Consul, to see whether there was no mode of arranging this matter, so that some of these hard cases might be relieved; but the Con- Sul’s inetructions were imperative, and since he received them no passport has been issued or vised by him without the applicant being required to take the oath of aile- giance, There is considerable rejoiciug on o »mail sca! among the Southerpera in Paris at the recent change in this matter. 48 for Slidell and bis ‘‘legation,”’ there is really noth- ing to be said, He is resting quiotly on bis cars, wait- ing—like Micawber—for something to turn up. Once a week he gives a reception at his magnificent rooms on the Champs Elysees, and which is attended by the Southern community, of whom the: © probably be- tweon twoand three hundred in Paris, and a fow !rench sympathizers. But he or his friends are not making the lightest noise or excitement, and the idoa of apy inter- ence on the part of the French government has long been \doned. Thurlow Weed returns to London to-day. I render il proof against the large “ity of porter which tout cet propel from fhe un no @ shot. Perhaps the first two or three trial guns might be well eonstructed; but by-and-py leas care would be taken with them, and some serious accideat would happen. age hear.) Evem with the Armstrong guns acoldents 0o- casionally happened, although there the amount of metal was comparatively small. With regard to the forts, if the government had not 6 wo far, they could surely suspend operations. He was told that three forts wor progr Lat the experiment be to them, or, at all events, give up the forts in the I: Wight. The esti- mated cost was £1,000,000; but he believed they would cost @ great deal more, and that we gbould be very hicky if we got out of it for less than £2,000,000. It would be better to stop the works and pay @ penalty to the con tractor than to apend 60 much mousy 6e uselossly, (Hoar, hear.) Tho honorable and gallant member for Waxetioid (sie J.D. Hay), than whom no man was more competent to give an optolon on this subject, in « letter addressed to the Times, upwards of three years ago, called public attention to the importance of buliding iron vessels. Mr. Laird aleo published a most admirab.e Iptter descriptive of a ship 60 constructed as to run into and aink an adver- sary. But oven in Amorica blunders were made, and {t appeared that the stem of the Merrimuc was too woak. No doubt the nobie lord, the secretary to the Admiralty, would take to heart this lesson, Thore was time to give our ships pow in course of construction much greater strength in this respect. The Warrior oould not run into such a vessel as the Merrimac without receiving vory se- rious injery; but if her present very baodsomo stem wore removed, and a strong, useful stem substituted, she would bea much more serviceable vosael, It was quite clear that, in coustructing the forts at Spithoad, we wore proceeding in @ wrong direction, But it was not too Inte to draw back, and there ould BeBe. r bi scorned time for doing #o thag on fast Gay of the financial year, Qpe bdint which the House should remember was the diff ulty in getting 2,100 well trained artillerymen to man the forts. Such a force could not be now invulnerable to (Hoar.) There is nothing unreasonable in t which encourages him in that aim. (Hear. grounds, then, for holding that a complete ravolution in the set oi war will not be fected, but that ina fow years tho disproportion which is now said to ex- ist in point of strength between floating and fixed battories will disappear. (Hoar, bear.) 1 obsorve that the honorable momber for Birken head, at a meoting ovor which he presided lately, read a lottor from a correspondent in New York, who sai’ ©The auccsss of the Rodtdam gun has inducedvour goyern- ment to try exporimenis on a scalo still larger, and they are about conatrvocting guns of twenty-inch ‘bore, throwing shot of Ivs., which, it is thought,’ will” crush in thoaide of auy irot-plated ship, no mattor what the thickness of the piate-"’ This shows that iho belief in the progress of artillery is not confined to this country, (Hear.) Tam fully aware of the importance of this question, and of tho nocessity for our adopting those ex- podients which are snggeated by recent experieuco, We must, however, beware of taking @ procipitate step. (Heat, hear.) ‘The government ought to be guided by Aslentific advico, given on mature conaidoratiun, anc ough pot to rush tho a series of cmtly changes. The class of ships in tho navy should be constructed aviety satjont will reowive the careiul attention of the govern of iron. It was abaolytaly nocessary that the light dq. | mont, but Leanuog bs uid gut any, hope thgt the construc geri; tion of veasela should be built of wood, Recauge | tion of forta for which contracts have Seen entored into, hoy could not oxrry plates ¥ lok engugh fof their ‘aud which are already in progress, wil! be abandoned. toc fiat, Ad the gesurui aw ich wot take place on Mr. Buromt—I think the epzech of the right honorable 6 the result may be simply ® change of masters for the Biaves. It is notorious that the contrabands are now the emancipation ac- servants of our roidiers. We can m: coptable to the whole mass of non-sl South by coupling it wilh the policy of very projudice of race which now makes the n holders give their aid to hold the In bondag: then induce them to uutte in a policy which will rid them of the prosunce of the negroos out of ten of © ones, What other things do we learn from thie action? That an iron-cased ship oan, what is termed Our St. Petersb Correspondence, the white people of the South webolders, and ed, even if the voluniesr movement coutlaued, and | the thin iron vossols of this size would bo | gentioman will not be deemed very satisfactory by th f fs the right of suffrage is almoat unlimited. it ie easy to St. Paransvno, Maroh 24, 1802. | Yas" Tight, thea, te goon constructing forte which | much more formidable than the destruction produced | douse. (Hoar, hear.) He was moost enough to say | ~givo the stom’? to a wroolen sip add out her down, geo what will be the result, It is objected, however, | Mr. Seward’s Note—Impression Produced by the Successes | they would find it impossible to man? (Hoar.) But | on wooden ships of tho same size. But all the vessels | that he d 4 not hold Bimaself to be an axthority on a ques. | but it did nut require this action to prove that. kaown that fur a long time, aud have constructed all our which wore to fight in war muat not only be of conaider- | tion of this kind; but | must say the facts ho quoted did Mie sizg, but of size auilficient to carry plates of cou not appear to be'muoh to the point. The report of the ‘blo thickness, se ag to protect them from the fire of | Defence Commission was written more than a year ago, nemy. There was no doubt that modern artillery | and canuot, therefore, refer to an event which happend had arrived at sueb perfection that tt was positive roe f about a fortnight since. (Hear) Tho right honorable people out to fight in wooden vevsels. If two | gentleman has Ub re sald really nothing to the propo- met armed with the modera ordaanco, not gag | sition of the honorabie member for Chatham. (Hear.) mare es and m0 rosu!t would flow | Lagreo with the right honorable gentisman in his com. | snable hor, if necessary, to ri er ensiny. 4 rar ae wo koow it was not | meuta on the romarka of th» honorable mombor for | thw - ren ast veauals strong Of, ry) possible to conatruct abips solely of iron. Tt waa aba Galway. On the occurrence of a single event sugh acy. f FPR bg we viNed 60 ‘on forte, (eyed hear.) That officer was @ high | intely necessary to bhye aomeching behind the tron to | recent action, boweyer jwportant—aaa +. ~ tua } er we tant three y authority, abd had proved HBr hy ceaet pena Beovogt ihe CRS Ate} ing Dahip. ance ae dps pce par cupid who does not see sieinpertance n'a | totnesd forts, J OB assure tho House ti ed po tg ‘oma hg poe les SMS | experimenis uma gous, IL WAS Cortain that where the | laugh)—it would, [think, be very unfortunate {¢ the | intention of Gin a bahay [7 7 to him | piates wore very rigid the attaohmonts or bolts which | government at once adopted the scheme of naval recou- | this year. Somé honoran. there would be no diMoulty in manning small vessos carrying two guns, which would be enough to keep at bay, if they did mor emi: © vessels like the Merrimac. (Hear, hear.) The aotion tn question had changed his opinion with regard to these forts, and he was now fully impressed wish the necessity of’ making the best use of the lesson which we had just been taught. The would remember that bis lamented friend Sir R. Dundas was of opinion that for the defence of the Solent it was m.ch better to rely on vessels than that we have no right to remove the negroes from their own country against their will. Ido not believe that Compulsory ovloni sation is necessary to the ultimate suc- oese of this plan ; but neither do I regard it with any ab- horrence , on the contrary, I Jovk upon it aw the greatest boon we oan confer upon this race, greater by far than She gift of personal frecdom iu @ iand in which they must forever rsmath in a condition of social inferiority ong & poopie who will treat them with every imaginable in- dignity, Contrast this with the policy which will build them up in a great nationality, 10 ® eountry pe- Guliarly adapted to their physical organization, in which their natural vigor and endurance make them su. perior to all other races, and whose vegetable and mine- of the Union Army—What will America do with Her Army? de. The Journal de St Petersbourg publishes Mr. Seward’s note of the 18th of February to the Russian Ambassador ‘at Washington, which I need not say bas caused the highest satisfaction to our government. The Emperor himself feels extremely flatvered by the gratifying re- mark of the Amerioan Secretary of State, that “When this unhappy civil war sball have ended, with the complete and permanent restoration of the Union om tts ancient constitutional bases, the fidelity, constancy and wisdom iron-caged ships with a view —, ‘The honorable and gai tant momber for Chatham shakes his head, but | assure bim that every iron «i ship, beginning with the chiié of my right houorabie fiend the momber (or Droitwich, the Warrior, has been so coustructed, by strengthoniog the stem aud the lines and other arrangements, as ve t from suob an Fal woalth exceeds that of any other portion of the for hin services. (Hear, hear.) The question of slopin, toned one to the other wore certain to break by the | struction which is very much favored by tl House to bolleve that the governgont are going t Frorld. Events are now tranepiriog on this eoutinent, | with which the Emperor of all the Russias | sides, which hed beon much canvassed, was one of detail. | concuasicn, and it was thorefure necassary a Kopcscuor | honorable Giomber Cor Droitwioh, (Hear.) “Notitag | diately to bring In « apple Y BAtimaL@ Of bon mil. nage be rhe a country, which havea Dearing | has coviributed by bis advice end infu. | No doubdt,| jou could present tgashipasiopingandnota | shipa of ' wood and iron combined, which go far | could be moro eostly or calamitous to the coun- | tion pounds. (No! Noy") What ta the propima athe Soeuias pane cpa ens coeaoe gy ence te the result will fll mank with py. Perpendicular side, a much thi metal covering would | was fortunate for us, because the best use wecould | try than tbat we should have such sweeping moa- | honorable member for Birkenhead? He tolls us be nsreegary. the imac the amount of vertical | make of oir wooden three-deckers was to cut them down } @ures carriod out by aspiring lords of the Admiralt; putting aside our wooden vessels, we ought to cotiétruot found sympethy snd the most lively sdmiratio surface plac posite Tine of fre was ouly two, | thelr lower deck bout. plate them with ironana | very fulfa dezen years,” The question which has been | sgreat mass of irva ships, and ‘Oulld ducks tn all (I quote from the French, which is partislly a translation | or at the most thros, fest, and there was thus complete | cover them with ae many of Capta(o Coless’ cuy dig very simplo, and the government ought not to | of the world for them, (‘No 1") How are we to of the original document.) We ean only echo Mr. Sew. Protection for the mem worki the guns, aud plenty of | as they would carry. (Hear, hear.) One of the: bo allowed to oacape from it without a definite statement | docks ali along the American coasts, at the Fexjee Ilands ard’s hope that ‘the mutual confidence betw air, How Captain Coles’ cupoi work wasamat- | go cut downand pia‘ed, and provided with six to the House. (Hear, hear.) The question ts, whether | (‘‘oh! oh!') and other ou/landsh ’ een are. | tor of ie og the batteries which we are about to erect at @ vast cost Mr. Lamp—J said distinelly at our forcign stations in pudlican government in the West, and agreat and well | being 6: all in the neighborhood of Portsmouth harbor are capable of | different parts of the world. (Hoar, hear. rogulated monarchy in the East, will afford now ang | S¢i# and batteries, went off without “iy had aacé?iained that there was a positive ad ronisting the entrance of iron-plated vessels, such as the ‘dC, Paant—The suggention is neediess, for at most Seag pentane piaae, enlae vd Wsatiy 40 ot five hours’ engagement on the second di! 004 to support the iron, because | Monitor, ‘The ther questions, whether thore is any | of our colonial stations there aro already ducks belonging 7 6 ' y Da | the fire of much heavier than her own, it was « 8 of the great'numbor of abi, danger of invasion, whether aay fortifications aro re. pnt, Mabie merchants or to the government. Be- tions,’ and trust that this crisis, which has disclosed se | question wi &@ shot ever penetrated her sides or | we posseasod which might be convorted into useful | quired, and whether we qan get them manned, are | cause we have heard of the extraordinary success of irom mueb civil animosity to your great and glerious Union on | whether hor stem was injured by running inte hor oppo. roved largely of the su, pot discussed now. They remain just whore we left | ships on this occasion, are we to reconstruct the A te the part of other European States, will have served to | nent, If her sides were penetrated they clearly must them; but, a9 far as Ioan learn from thoir conversation, | navy of England and to give up building small wooden cement still more closely the bonds of friendship that havo | have been pierced by fire of 200 of 176-pound si thowe who voted for the fortifications two yoarn ago are | vessels for distant service? [ maintain that, at ail oxiated for nearly a century betwoon two countries that | But, at all events, the Monitor sustained not ingle ich was tobe | genorally very much ashamed of that vo (Hear, | events, the time has aot yet come to do so. With re. have so fear) at we have Agimed iagwhothor, leas | gard to Spithead, naval imon waturally prefer ships to are rope have seized ujou the moment of our great troubles to interfore in the affairs of the feeble republics of the South, and to establish thrones to be upheld by European fm and to be subservient te the commercial power of rope. The fact that the time of our own weakness has been chosen for bhis atvempt is of itsell efficient to Drove to these American States that heratofore tho moral jer of this republic bas alone sustained them against European rapacity, and its effect bas siready been to re store to us the good will which we bad forfeit by the Biibuster schewes of the slavory governments which have #0 long dominated this republic. With the end of this rebedion will return the and influence which Will onabio us to liberate ico from her threatened dangers; will roturn, also, tn its Culiness, tho oonfd and good will of that poople, ploss’ abields, would destroy eight or ten I shi) Laphee Avil existed. Go far it was of the mond) interests ia Common and so ancient rival. | crack in any of her ea. Although Oghting almost | spent on building tho forte at apie yin ahead ioh ld be increasod, ernment to assist in organizing their own strength and Maintatoing stable governments, With the resiorativn of good ling will revive the commercial intercourse which once existed between these people and our own ond whiok was lost tous when thoy became alienated Ube injustios and vutr: of our late filibustering rule It ts jo thim gorgeous vend of the American tropics th our freedmen wili find their homes, among a people wit! ous prejurtice against their color, and to whom they w and of all ber kinir . F. mauazie to muszie with the Merrimac, this ship was aut | more usefully employed at Be Mi of the proofe which are on of what irom, ta, but in war time merohante’ ships running up and Fates of the Central 6d South Ametionn Biases. Taey ¢ Russian press, which, with hardly an exception, has im the least; and if that were 00, no one need viding "ceuks to, reseite our bros an f : Hiding 4 a « we are to go on 5; om fortifications down Channel will continually seek refuge in that very will all need the fostering care and kindness of our gov \° ‘of the Union through good ter | fear that small tron-eagod. vessele tn the’ Soient ‘would | Win retorones to" thi neccesity for. sloviag’ ¢henn foment’ rn deed the ‘titimare | beat of Channel harbors, aad I wat (o kuow whvther for sloping (ho aides | Tam afraid to say how much, and jn the wey quite | Cost was never very clearly set before the House, I | you are to keep & large ny 0 was nothing to be) agcee with the right honvrabie gentleman that nothing | up botween tho Isle of Wight cool gerard b jes of ® ship, because | ig be assumed aa Absolutly ooncaded by what | witha view of rd the merchant pavy? (ilar, y the Union aris, of which every fresh tolegram | ‘of works on the northern shore of the Iils of Wight or with | by #o doing there must baa largor plate to cover the same | bas a piace in the Janes river, but the | hear.) 1 oan quite believe that you will require to Drings us how particulars, and which promise a speedy wert; and ho asked the | vertical ares. There was no doubt that the iron was bas, ity je that somotiing oe tron shiva a8 acjuaots to the forts, but { maintain ‘traggle equally paioful | Seoretary for War w' would gut be prudent to sus. better disposed in greater thicknoss upright than if the | oluded. 1 do ot require to be o gi that nothing which fiat taken ploce across the Atiantie the — character and | pend been roa rotio - tog lhe ad the same weight wore roiled out to cover the same vortical | authority t0 pronounce it a very serious ov many wy altars, tO eesgaras ative ‘co . ae 10. The! Pehela | iron-roofed gunboats should have been Cully considered It had boen tried over and over again, Th jouse inay fairly call upon the mombered thal vay about whet youwill éo wire (Hear, hear) “4 & good {roa 4 over again, ‘The thicker | caak the Bonde wey nea’ \ erent donot vay we have arrived at it yet—to the raged suffer from the fire of larger vessels entering. (Hear, | of iron fleet of fron-oased ehipa locked journals,’ ig | hear.) Under these olroumstances it was hardly just 1 naturally quite elated at the brilliant successes achieved fable}or the prcermmnt fo proceed with the preter Le grined by sloping the position of the Americ: beginning to carry and tm; ow late wan, the better it was o ny rate to suspend these wees Ohth Wil pectin, ba’ Foturn for the gantio army you have raisod, aad which the con- | ° Mr. Laimp fooked upon this action as the (vrwing point | against the ofloct of projectiles. and a abipbuldee eet any handed thousead por size of the gun and the thicksess of (he plats which the future protection aed friendahip ot our entre Aon asion of the war will save without employment. A | inthe adoption of tron for all classesaf weasels im hor Ma- | not be traminsilot hy any dowire to aller the form of his | mantiones, aud which wil Involve an outiay of millions, | cancarry. Wit in Pee oo lat, Camano 1 look with confiience to this movement oe republic. ‘B® Proportion of (he volunteer soldiers will undovbt- | jestys service Objections had bithrto byen made to | siip by afaise idee of obtaining stoping sides when he | if we tuclude all tao fortifications which we f we can construct & gun tu het ot of One th only solutiva of this question—a question b: oe edly return 00 Bote, paternal Tomes; but there will be | @mall iron versels of this kind, but the succass of the | would ged the sinc (hing by building hie ship in the best | to sanction two years ago, (iiear, hear.) Som we can eu ou & ‘ort. if : lifo of the wation his been go often put in party numbers who have taken « \iking tothe military trade, | Mondor had provd that ships of a email class were abla | form to perform her duty and plating her vertically. | abio mombersbave an doa that mney t4to be e, ve times tho | resen! thick: ment by which twu races of ten Wil be Gente move. | and will 208 fe! inclinox Ngo itfor the peaceful | to revise birge ones, and, morener, though the Monitor’ | (Hoar, bear.) somowliere, and that ool ie any Ue po ness, they can Wbou @ ort, Without, a uDhAppY Conjunction fatal te bet oa eltvered fom | and unexciting pursuits of «gr-o:iture or commerce; be. | had not heen built axa seagoing craft, she Aad made the | Mr. A. Hurry salt the proposition was to mubatitute vex | ix yaif out of the Exchequer for wuci UBing sntoring into the questi n of how for may be empires AE 10 be emlabliahed to bienw i by which two | sides which, there must be | gions of unquiet apirite in | oyaye from New York to the James river in perfect | esis fort Ag 1O have @ tiaet inovery port. It wae | t (hat semebedy works for somebody mocats for the duty of gove ont lo modify the plan fw bis de benodvout influeneoe throug! leas mankind by their | both armies who might be dangerous to the country if | safety. “Unive that verse! had como up the Merrimao | not hia pe " efend the Admiralty, but be t im ty vrectees Vas of theo mforts of Ufo Tor th cape fence oF the port of Spillet, t ui be no doubt t , FOUGh ot Future vive, ie) tt home, and jor whow your government would ike | might have destroyed all the wooden slitps thy:e alnoat L they wout send with the con of th poncho mays to the tem, ofien grielgingly, and suf. | forvs aust over be strovger than shive ome houorabie |