The New York Herald Newspaper, March 5, 1858, Page 2

2 NEW YORK HBRALD, FRIDAY, MARCH, 5, 1858.. tt No publicist or statesmaa is there, from Sidney aad Locke | New provided for alterations or admitted them. of the bank that, tho lat four not this distinction aad admit. Fas casthanos'e Toil of the faate oC New York was ¥ be one firm Pi) etreet over tory State is » “A republic ia a State in jaced and abrogaved againat its express provisions one thousand dollars fer interest on de- anxious attention whether, if he maintains bis present as- | comptou coxstitution. > alr, which th erciae of the eowereign power Us lodged ta the ‘1646, and a new os0 wae Fane by wae pare To posits at usurious rates, In 1863 the bank took from the Hociat'oy it may not become indispensable to cali upon | trive of popular covetieny, ‘as bal understood, | represectatives elected by the people. In moderna usage | case of Lather vs. morta (i Howard, pp. '), the Su- common wealth $75,000 coupon bonds, in 1864 and 1856 ‘the stan’ all the republican leaders—the Hales, the Wil- | both within Congress without, is quite abusive | it differs from @ democracy or democratic State in which | preme Court of the United States ry, Chief Justice) these bonds were bold, at a loss of $13,261 Tl. The loos ons, the Feasondens. the Samners—to testity who, of all | of the inherent of the ‘people te govern | the people exercise the power of sovereignty in person."’ \| says—* No one, we believe, ever doubted the proposition Mea tho. ake ar nasa ater the beed of coapes men in the United States, is responsible for the present themselves.” Tam at a toss to perceive how a body of | Now, when section 4 of articie 4 of the constitution de- | that according to the institutions of this country the sove- bonds of the State of Peans; . During the same condition of Kansas. 1 do not say that the public can be | mev under foreign dominion can be said to be clarea that “the United Staies shall guarantee to ev reignty in every State resides i the peopie of the State, year it wea discovered tat one of the bookkeepers wae made to bolieve these men; they have had great with the powers of self-government. The spectacie with | State in this Union a iblicaa form of government,’ and that they may alter and their form of govern- in collusion with a Mr. Fey, and allowed him to overdraw aificulty im making themselves believed heretofore. which we are most familiar is that of the sovereignty of | must be obvious to the reli mind theta depar- | meat at their own plesaure.”” In the Convention whicb his account come $70,000. When it was discovered,’ the My duty would be @ much more agreeable ove. I | the people of the States in ever present exercise and ap- | ture by any State government from the system of popu- | tramed the late constitution of Virginia a proposition was bookkeeper wae discharged, but the loss was left on the should imalst that they believe themselves aad bold their | plication, But the law which the representatives of the | lar representation would devolve upon Congress the con- | made to insert a clause providing a mode for ita further books, where it still remains,as an asset or addition te @ about slavery in Kansas for fear of injaring one of | ie of the Siates enact for the meat of the inha- |} stitutional iow of restraining the State, and of com- | amendmeat. The proposition was rejected on the ground some $12,000 more, overdrawn by other irresponsible Bar newest and abjest recruits (Laughter and ap- | bitaats of Territories beyond the is an instance, not | peiling her again to the Convention or to the Legislative | that a majority of the people had the power at any time, parties, ap an aggregate of 13. There was Nause.) There is nothing, in my bumble judgment, in | of popular government, but of popular tyranny, Even | Assembly. Nor, by parity of reason, can apy State, | and in any manner they pleased, to amend the constitu- Ido COLNE ‘also consiaerable loss in the purchase and gale of foreign he Lune of this Kansas question that excuses any democrat ere there justification for such a tyranny to be found in | therefore, be admitted into the Union, the constitution of tion, or to make @ new one, the votes by which | time of day; the note of Mr. Fitzpatrick im the bank is un- | L-ils of exchange, not charged toa proper account, bat for his hostility to the admission of it as & State. It is a | the peculiar re of the Territories, the integrity of our | which does aot provide a republican form of goverament. | it was rejected were those of James Madison, Chief Justice | Paid; mever beard Mr. Fitzpatrick claim that the bank sppeer ing on the books as au asset. Stato: if it were not it could not bo admit‘ed. wasn, 8, hi cues fabric and the eafety of individual rights | Then, ite Seale mone Maden N herself for admission uader Veresell Joha Tyler oe Unies terme 1 ae pad eink a td, ns pai A 3 ee ny az ie poser oe ere am be at different admitted, if it is republican ip its form of goverament, would instantly repudiate and denounce it, There is, | & constitution ving oa people in mass the exer- | another authority, which, though contemporary, + now! A f, Presi ‘% x United States will not interfero with it; i it is not, the | however, py peculiarity—none that cau raiseeven a | cise of the law making power, or if an existing State | tled to all the respect aad veneration belon; to the | bim into crime. Some time during the month of September last $03,453 66 m4 any € the bil ed di 4 hav duty of the United States is plain, to make it so. Now, | piausibie pretext for so grosé and monstrous a violation of | should exchange her present form of government for one | great past. Du the debate upon tha admission of Mi+ The Recorder thought the question was improper 3 | of the bills discount aappeared, an ve Not sinew ict “ pass for a moment coer two views of Gov. Wise fesliemenioearene . 1 take it that popular right is but of pepular assemblages, in the one case the tender shou be eNigee in the po ‘of the United States Mr. Benton re- | the counsel for prosecution objected. beon seen, All this time the bank was doing a largo bua- in reference to the question of slavery and to the duty of | the aggregation of individual rights; and what there ta, | be rejected, and in the other the offending State should be | marked ‘that conventions were original acts of the peo- Repeated.) From your knowledge of his circum. | noas, having from twenty-five to thirty clerks, inoluding the New York democracy, aud in this connection let’ me | eitber in the soil or in the atmosphere of a Territory, not | remitted again to a republic, by what authority can it be | pie. ‘Teep. dopented upon inherent and inalienable | staaces, would $9,000 be likely to precipitate him into the Cashier and President, with salaries in the advert to the odjcction that was made to the form of the | only to neutralize but to oppress these rights, | am un- | urged that, unless the ¢ of @ Territory have resorted | righta. people of aay Btate may at apy time | the commission of a crime? amounting to over $40,000 per annum, and det submission of this @onstitution. It is said that this form | able to perceive. itis quite true that the federal govern- | to the arbitrament of popular numbers, their constitution | meet in convention, without a law of Legialature Counsel for the prosecution objected and the Recorder | dends, novor less than four and usually five per coms of submitting merely the slavery clause was not honest | ment repreecats the p1 right of the people of the | shall be pronounced deficient in evidence of popular ap- | and without any provision in their constitution, and may | ruled the question out on the grounds-—the last being that | every six months. nor just, Lei us see whal Gov. Slanton, when he was in | States in and to the pubii ; and, as their trus- | proval’ it ecems to me that the error of our opponents | alter or abolish the whole frame of government as they | there was no evidence that Mr. Fitzpatrick had committed ‘The bank, during tho inst five years, declared 47 the Territory of Kausas, addressing the poopie, said in re- | tee, is clothed with er necessary to the care and arises from their oversight of the important office lease, The sovereign power to govern themselves was | crime. cent dividends on its capital stock, while we do not & ference to this thirg. he says:— couservation of the reality. Thus, the power of sale | which suffrage performs in the scheme of represeatative the mi ity, and they could not be divested of it.’’ Mr. Jomy BRANNIGAYN was recalled by the counsel for | lieve that after July 1, 1863, it was in condition to make The government especially recognizes the Territorial act ids that of a santiary police, and all rules aad | government. It is precisely bore that popular sovereign- & 3 Debates, vol. 12, part 1, p. 1,036.) Sir, | accused, and the Recorder decided that the question | any dividend at all, up to the time of its suspension. which provides for the assembling in Convention to frame a ions essential to the ‘of the estate are | ty is applied and exemplified. The collective will of pre- ere is no room for comment upon this formidable array; | which bad been before reserved might now be put. Wo examined a many witnesses undor osth, amd constiiniion, with & view of msking application to Congress | properly obiigatery upon inhabitants on tt. This } cincts and tates uy all questions of political to their general current is anywhere to be Q. Had you an idea at the time you signed this but one perzon refused to : that was Wa. Kelly, of tor the admission of the State into the Union. ‘hat | power may, with accuracy, be denominated dominion. moment is thus aace: ‘and pronounced. Said | found. They are full and conclusive upon the point that | (showing the receipt of bouda and money in this contract) ; the firm of Robert J. Ross & Co. This firm had large act le regarded) As presenting only | ite qualification | dominus—lord—landiord—the landlord's: etary right. | Dauiel Webster _arguendo, in the case of Luther the intervention of their repregentatives | Cf about how much was due Mr. Fitzpatrick on account of | trassactions with the bank. At times the balaaces of R. J. Or nine ao Fepinnnnt “restseusem eatin Att All | Sir) this is all the xight of control either in the | vs, Borden (7 's Sup. Court Reps.)—'The basis of | in convention, are clothed with the power of abrogating | all or any of his contracts with the cityt | Roes & Co., and R. J. Ross, amounted to more than halt’ « Beaisd. ‘in this Hebt the act must be allowed to have | people of the States or in the federal government, | repreeeutation is suffrage. The right to representa- | old constitutions and of establishing new constitutions, at Counsel for prosecution objected. , mililion of dotiars. provided for @ full aod fair expression of the will of the | their truates, over the Territories or the people | tives isevery man’s part im the exercise of Sovereign their own arbitrary pleasure, of legislative law, the Recorder cpeened the substitution of the word We think the causes that the failure of the Feopie through the delegates that may be chosen to represent | in the ‘Territories. Quite different, however, | power, to have a voice in it, if he has the r |- | organic law, or any other law. the second paragraph | ‘knowiodge”’ for the word ‘‘idea. bank were dividends dectared, not earned, and taxes om idem in the constitutional convention, Ido not doubt, bow- | from this right of dominion in the government, | cations—that is the tundamental exercise pow- | in the Bill of Rights, included in the Lecompton constitu- Counsel for defence adopted the screen, and the | theso dividends, amounting together to moro than hail ef Sree gin in onder (o avoid ait pretext for resisiance io the | ix the rght of sovereignty in the people. The cue is | or by every clector. That is the . This is the | tion, is in these words:— question was admitied—the counsel of prosecution ob- | the capitai of ths bank; backstanding taxes due the com- Bere fina Mrovine for mabe (eke the cram aMitac® | referable to the attributes of property, the other tothe at- | mode in which power emanates from Its source and All political power is tuherent tn the people, and all free | Jecting. ‘ monweaith, and ettorney’s fees in Utigation of the samsa, fox question regarding thelr social instituiions, which have | tributes of man. To the one we are to look for the source | into the hands of conventions, legislatures, courts of law governments are founded 00 their authority and instituied for Witness—I had, sir. over $100,000; lavish prodigality in the ordinary and ox- bo long agitated the people of Kansas, of the power claimed and exerted by absolutism over its | and the chair of the executive. It being in suffrago— ir benefit; and therefore they have at alf times am inaliena. Q About how much was due Mr. Fitzpatrick at that | traordinary expenses of the bani; usurious interest me ‘The very thing the President says ought to be submitted, | subjects, by despots over their vassala, by feudal Europe | suffrage in the delegation of the power of an individual to | ble and indefeasible right to alter, reherse or abolish thelr | time? A. The certilicates T presented were suppressed | on deposits; enormous losses paid on the wale of the Gov, Stanton says ought be submited, and nothing else; | over its enslaved millions. To the other we are to pro: | some agent.” Now, let me suppose that a constitution, | form of government in such mannerasthey may think proper. | in the retuins; I remember the amount; from the certifl- | discounted of the bank loss on coupon bonds of the Stabe toa fair pv yo ‘actual bona fide resideats of the Ter. | ceed for the crigin cf thatrepresntative goverament which | having been formed iu the only manner either recognized It must, therefore, be quite apparent that, if Kansas be, | cates the amount was $32,000. of Pennsylvania and city loans, overdraws on the individa- Titory % characterizes and protects American freedom. In the es- | by our fundamental law or known tothe genius of our | admitted under this constitution, Congress will, in effect, Counsel for prosecution objected. ai ledger; discounta paid on uncurrent moncy; loss om tabiished right of property iu the throne, not only to | institutions, is to undergo the procees by a submission to | have affirmed the political dectrine here asserted. Still, Witnese—I ented two certificates, which I got from | foreign bilis of exchange, fstock of the bank, and bad If the constitution is thus formed and the question of difter- : that no lingering doubt, however unfounded, may be per: | the Deput; Bireet Commissioner, Mr. Turner, to Mr. | debts and loans now in ion of the bank. Maay of ence be thus submitied tothe decision of the people, Tbelieve | its realms, but through that property to the sovereignty | the people. There are obviously fold articles to be 10 ey ing doubt, b y may per. ut ‘puty: ni loner, , u possessi( " that Kansas will be admitted by Congress witboui delay as | Which, by feudal fiction, depends upon it, we observe the | reviewed and various provisions to be approved or re- mitted to the most skeptical mind, I think it would be | Smith, with the Inspector’ ‘8 return, the usual I mean | the losses were charged to T. Allibone, president's ac- one of the sovereign Siates of the American Union, and the | soncentration in the prince of dominion over lands aad of | jected. The elector who approves of the articieon finance | well, sir, that 38 should accompany the act of ad- | the Surveyor’s return; the amount was about $31,000; the | count on the individual ledger, aud of course did not ap- territerial authorities will be immediately witharawn. sovereignty over their occupants. The feud, therefore, is | may reprobate an elective judiciary, while ancther may | mission with a dec! m of the inalienable and indefea- | amount was about that to my knowledge; I should say | pear on the general statement. Whether any of the money” And now, whea tbe Convention has done exactly | at the very root of monarchy, and combines in the lord | en! opinions the exact reverse, and still auother may | sible bing) of the people at all times to alter, reform | $14,000 or $15,000 Surveyor's returns over and above | paid without consideration, or what we think usurioms what Mr Stanton said, and have submitted the precise | paramount Doth title to the soil and control of the subject | wish to reject both of these, but yet approves of other | or abolish their form of government in sech manner as | that contracts, can be recovered, is not for us to inquire er ‘ati00 that be said they ought to submit—when he has | of the Old World, But the allodial tenure of Ameri. | provisions. The evident result, therefore, in each case, is | they may think proper. Tam confident, rir, that such a Q. By counsel for prosecution—I presented the certifl. | decide, aya thet that would. recsove’all pretext for resissunce, | can soll secures tho propeistary right to iihier a cempromize rote cr nous widle ia uether case | declaration, while ineffectual, oither in addition to or do- | cates or the $15,600 or $14,000 also to Mr. Smith; thore | Mr. Allibone, from the allegod confidential nature af why does he tramp through New York and Pennsylvania | ple, in whom also reposes sovereignty. And within the can the opinion of the elector be more than approximately | rogation from the Inw, would Roe the honestly enter- | were, I should say, two or three making tat sum; I | some of these transactions, declined giving the names of ‘and stir up rebellion agaiust the constituted authorities es where each is united in one body, tovereignty | expreesed. But submit as many of the provisions of a | tained though causeless fears of many ® woll intentioned | should say three. some of the parties to whom this money was paid. and prosiaie the democratic party, who are sustaining | «0d dominion combine for the pony power of the | constitution ag you may, still will there be its | citizen, and would reduce the senseless clamor of a parti- Q. Name the amounts. Svfficient, however, is known to identi » if thoes the very laid down by him and by the President of | masses. When, however, as in the Territories, the Bro: skeleton withheld--the erticulations aud processes red oe ~ Cpe t Me) rest, — i ales ae for defence objected, and the Recorder ad- bare charge of the affairs of the bank choose to seek the United States in regard to the formation of the consti- | prietary right of dominion doos not exist in the mhabi- | to which the plastic body to bo applied. I a: Angas ited it. % tution cf Kansas’ (Loud applause.) And one word more, taats, bet Tecomion inthe States, it can be then exercised } The impossibility, therefore, of socomplishing the osten- | the States will produce it Nothing in my judgment will ‘Witness—I do not remember the amounts. ‘The bank seems to have been under the entire contrat There are exceedingly humble and tender-footed mem. | with reference only to the conservation of the estate, and } sible dezign of a popular submission is manifest enough, | accomplish th.s save the introduction of Kansas into the Q. Can you name the contracts to which they reiated? of the President, who was, we think, in many respects, bers of Congress, as i understand, vit desire npr a | with strict subor A 10u to the sovereignty of the peopie, | and ehould be abandoned as impracticable. Sfould it, Uniou. Then, but not til! then, will the people of Kansas Counsel for defence objected, and a | desultory ar- | unfitted for the position; and by his imprudent fuancier- be put in the law admitting Kansas and Minnesota | unaffected aud unapproachable thereby. ‘So, air, while 1 | however, be still persisted in, the extremities to which | be effectually enabled to‘ form and reguiate their domes- | gument ensued, in which the counsel on bott sides in- | ing often pet himself in the power of large depositors and that the people shall have the right to change | grant that Congress may constitutionally exercise allthe | the principle will bear its friends should admonish them tic institutions in their own way.’’ And now, sir, these | dulged in considerable extraneous remarks. money dealers, who used their power without coascieace their constitutions. I desire no such thing put in on | functions of a proprietor of the public domain in the Terri- | of its pernicious nature. If one law should be submitted, | re my reasons, rendered at large, for declining to com- The Recorder admitted the question and the counsel for | or mercy. my account. (Laughter.) I admit that two and | tories, Tam clear that avy, the smafest attempt, on its | so equally should all laws; if the law of a convention, so py with the request ef the very distinguished gentlemen, | defence objected. i . The difficulties in the bank commenced in the summer two make four, but I do vot waut it put | part tocoerce, govern or control thelr inhabitants is an | also the law of a legislature. Thus would confusion re- | Who, a short while since, requested me, among others, to The question was repested, and the witness answered | of 1853, and the President appears to have indulged the in that Territorial act. (Laughtor.) I am in favor of | unwarranted and atrociouggisurpation of the sovereiguty | place order, the stability of laws yield to the wildest ca- | oppose the Lecempton Constitution—reasons, sir, which | that he knew upon what contracts they were based; | vain hope that every trouble would be the last, and thas popular eovereignty, as I understand it, but] am not of the people. As this pono intimately affects the con- | prices, and’the fluctuations of popular excitement oppose | have satisfied me that the priaciples of popular sovereignty | they were in relation to contracts ou Fifty.second every sacrifice to obtain money to sustain the bank would favor of it as dir. Dovglas expounds it. If it is true stitutions! relateons of the people of Kansas to those of the | the grave sanctions of the bench. But, while insist! andthe fundamental principles of constitutioual demo- | Fifly-eeventh streets, as far as 1 remember; cannot name | give permanent relief, and could soon be made up; while Union, and of a consequence bears directly upon the force | that a constitutien framed by a convention of deiegat cracy required its support. Ihave adopted no sectional | the Surveyors; can’t tell who gave me those three papers; | a little reflection ought to have shown him that the “Sty- two-third vote after 1864, | and obligations of all organic, enabling and other laws powers is the legitimate expression of the ilar will, I | View, and have diligently endeavored te exclude contro- | the Surveyors gould not give them to me, locks’? who controlled him were, in every transaction, ing the ac Tod eoetigh ansas | Congress enacted for them, I trust, ae, that I shall 4 vould not be Understood + opposing the pabrxeenn of | versial prejudice, It is for those who have heard me to Q. Who could or might give them? plunging him deeper into trouble, and fastening their hat, then ] am opposed to bie theory of popular so- | permitted to fortify it by constitutional references. It has | apy question again to the people. Undoubtedly there | answer whether I am justified by the argument—whether Objected to and ruled out. fangs into the very vitals of the bank. y. Hf, on the other band, the rule laid down in | been generally supposed that the part of the third section | may be times when fearful experiments would render the reasons rendered demand the conclusion adopted. I Q. Why could not the surveyors give them to you? While the President had those about (him who — “compton constitution itself is true—if that is ths | ofarucle four of the constitution which declares that | such a submission expedient, if not neccesary; there may | paticntly await the result, knowing that I have directed Counsel for the defence objected and the Recorder ad- | plundering bim, it may be well to state that oni dec'aration of popular rights, . | “Congress shall bave power to dispose of and make all } be questions of such general and absorbing interest tha! | my course in no devious and deceptive path, but full upon | mitted it. a actually deposited $5,000,000 of gotd in the Bank of Penm- Let me show you what that cov: | neediul rules and regulations respecting the territory or }| to withbold them from a secondary pen, trial would | the meridian line of the Union. Witness—Thoee papers are the district papers. sylvavia during the month peading its failure. The same political power is inherent in the people, and all free go- | other property belonging to the United States,”’ authorizes } be imprudent aud unwise. Such occasions, however, are ‘The address was listened to throughout with earnest Counsel for the ¢efence objected to the question as inti- | firm, the President says under oath, did this and muck vernments are founded on their authority and instituted | tite political action of Congress over the Territories. While } not frequent, and when they occur are at’ once and un. | attention, and frequently interrupted by applause. At | mating a disposition to distrust the witness, and claimed | more, without any consideration. for their benefit, and therefore they oe at all times an | the history of the section proves the error of the supposi- mistakeably recognized. ‘Such an occasion demandedthe | the conclusion, on motion of Capt. Rynders, three cheers | that that spirit had been manifested all q We find no evidence of fraud on the part of the late inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their form of | tion, it also demonstrates that the Convention refused to | submission of the question of slavery to the people of Kan- | Were given for the “Chairman of the Committee ou Com itness—Those two fay one sd from two distinct pso- | President, but he appears not to have takea time to reflect government in such manver as they may think proper.” | confer political territorial power upon Congress. Says the | sas; ‘and in my judgment that, and that alone, was | merce of the House of Representatives, and the meeting | ple; they could not have camé from the Surveyor because | on the consequences of his reckless management, or the <Applause.) It belongs in the declaration of righis to the | resilient Thos. H. Benton:—‘ The clause as first proposed | submitted, or was even pretended to be submitted | adjourned. nn Lied ~ other document is drawn by the Luputy Street Commia- | trouble to look into the deails of his ope if, aa he peopie. It has been charged that I am op-| by Mr. Madison included temporary governments for the | It is to be borne in mind tha: tho Convention was clothed = = 8! O bid says, he did not know the true condition of the bank a& posed to popalar sovereignty. Not as I under- | uew States arising ou this torritory. Referred to the | with plenary powers to form and establish a constitution; | The Alleged Frauds in the Comptroller's Q. Did you deliver to Mr. Smith a document from the | the time of its suspeusion, it suows @ degree of ignorance stand it; as an able bodied private 1 claim to | Committee on Detail, of which Governeur Morris was chair- | and when, in the name of their constituents, they solemn- Deputy pireet Commissioner besides one from the Sarvey- | of what he was bound to know that is wholly inexcusable, be one of the popular sovereigns myself. (Laughter.) | man, it was returned with governments’ struck out, and | ly declared, “We, the people of the Territory of Kansas, ies Tago three from the Inspector and three | and scarcely less than criminal. and whenever I execute a release of any of my political | adopted by the Convention as it now stands, the ‘tempo. | by our represeutatives in Conveution = * * * do from the rights 1 expect to be apprised of it, and! know what they | rary governments’ omitted and ‘ unappropriated lands’ | mutually agree witn each other to form ourselves into a those es are; I know that he who tells me that the people of a | Substituted by ‘territory or other perty,’ and ‘rules | free, independent and sovercign State, by the name and of Smith and Fitzpatrick—Evidence of Na- | bim; Mr. Turner gave me the three papers {rom the De- | volved the examination of accounta in detail and general country have no right to change their form of govern- | and regulations’ added—significant alterations, and which | style of the State of Kansas, aud do ordain and establish thantel G. Bradford, Terence B. Smith, | 2°¥ Street Commissioner; I dou't remember where 1 got | supervision of the books, should have discovered the mont ik consequence of seme writing into which their pre- | go to repulse the government power, and to identify ‘ter- | the following constitution for the government thereof?” | as the others, whethor I carried thom with me; if I carried | vitality of the bank was disappearing, aud taken measures decessors may have entered, though he is the father of | ritory’as meaning land.” Now, at atime nearly cotem. | their work was f promulged. No lang can ex- jeorge D. Rodgers and John Brannigan, them, I got them from the Surveyor; the drat two certifl- | to arrest its destruction; nor do we think the directors amd the principles of popular sovereignty, I should say | porary with this act of the Convention, the Cop, ofthe | press more clearly is expressed in the schedule the The examination in this case was continued yesterday preryepd xiy gos cae yg dy | : At ren ii ae, others officially ceonaehad with the ee Ce dg bave been told ‘er.:ofore that confederation were busy with tke enactment of the ordi | exception made to the completeness of their labors. In- | pofore Recorder Barnard. There was an unusually large | tote yi — RS ger = nay censure, They ought to have = + nown chid that knew it own father, | nawce of 1787. Itis true that a government was thus | deed, that intelligence is little tobe envied which con- : ,000 were not presented at ope time; the lwo | manner of its management would end in disaster. thet it is a wise tather tbat | provided for the territery of the United States northwest | cludes, when a ice is offered to it between a ‘constitu. | attendance, with the expectation that Charles Devlin or | certificates for $51,000 were delive to Mr. Smith, I The finale of this bank shows there ts little utility and knows bis cwn child.” (Great langhter and applause.) | of the Obio river; but, it is equally true that Congress did | tion with slavery” and a “constitution without slavery,” | Comptroller Flagg would be calied to the stand. think together, in September, 1857; those for the $14,000 | leas reliance to be placed on the baak statements, as Ydon't think it is at all material which way the election | not thereby presume to control the sovereignty of its in- } that, because of the impossibility of voting aguinst a con- | Naruasun. G, BRADFORD was recalled for the prosecu- | Me"e delivered at separate times; I should say the whole | sworn by the officers of a bank, and gent tothe Auditer bas gone i 1 have been told thei if what they | babitants. “It is hereby ordained and declared” (by the | stitution already established, it has been imposed upon by a po aifair extended over August, September and October and | General. 4 esll the free State mon, who keep all the while making | United States) says the ordinance, ‘that the following | a trick of words. Having now, as I believe, shown acon- | tion, and testified as follows:—I have made the examina- | November; I dou’t remember whether I delivered any in | The remaining assets of the bank are in the hands of the ‘Kansas a slave State, have carried the day, then it bad | articles shall be considered as articles of compact between | ventiou of delegates to be the only constitutional and le- | tion requested of me; I understand the question is as to | November; Ido not remember the names of the Surveyors ee Messre. W. C. Patterson, W. Littleton Savage Joba BD. Street Commissioner; I handed him for | We thivk that some of the other officers of the bamk, these six papers; T left. the papers with particularly the cashier, on whom more especially de- betier come in; bul if the free Stale mon are defeated, | the original States and the people and States in the said | gitimate means of declaring and establishing the popular | the cotes of Fitzpatrick, Devlin and Smith, endorsed by | 02 the $31,000 certificate. aud . Taylor. We have confidence that the inter- then it had not come “ill, if the free State | territory, and forever remain unalterable unless by | will, Isball proceed to a summary ext jon of the | the bank; on the 23d of February, 1856— Alter aspicy debate between counsel as to the time for | eats of creditors will be carefully and vigilantly attended , the democratic ticket is elected, i take | common consent." Among those articles is one | question whether tke Lecompton constitution was, at its Counsel for accused objected ‘to this, as going back of | Sdjournment, the case was postponed to Thursday, at | to. These gentlemen have labored assiduously to protect ought to be ademocratic party | which makes “the Territory subject to the articles | formation, the legal representative of the people of | the time to which the Recorder had restricted the evi. },11 o'clock. the interests of the bank, and have already accomplished n't, there is State in the Unien | of the Confederation.” and to “all the acts andordinances | Kansas. 1 cannot eve that there is any | dence, andthe witness was requested to confine himself much in bringing the affairs of the bank in @ condition te tat has a ratic party; and 1 don’t | of the United States, in Congress assembled, conformable | serious doubt entertained of the competency of | to the time when the notes became due. ‘The Bank of Pennsylvania. be understood. Respectfully submitted, think any ought come into it unt! has a | thereto,” ‘and another which provides thatthere shall be | the Kansas Territorial Legisiature. By virtue of | Wravxs—Well, there were the notes of Mr. Devlin, | THE WAY THE BANK WAS MANAGED—MORE CHARGES JAMES T. HALE, democratic party. (1 hter.) Ido not say that it shall | neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the said | one of its laws the people, in October, 1856, with | discountedJune 6, 1857. OF CORRUPTION—ANOTHER INVESTIGATING COM- ELI SLIFER, be a majority, but t shall be « party, 1 never | Territory otherwise than in the punishment of crimes | great unanimity, determined in favor of the expodiency of ‘Counsxt, yor Accuskp—State the notes that became due MITTES REQUIKED. J.C. BO! ‘was brought u c ver & democratic victory, no mat- | whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.” It is | calling ® convention to form a State*constitution. | in November. BANK OF PENNSYLVANIA. ter what you call the opponents of the democratic party. | Uhus quite clear that all the power exerted by Congress | Accordingly, on the 19th day of February, 1857,the thea | Wrrness—He had none due in November; neither of Pmitapsuenia, Feb, 20, isis, } Chamber of Commerce. Caughter.) If the free State men are defeated, legally | over the inhabitants of this Territory, beyond its pro- | Legislative Assembly enacted a law for taking a census | these three gentlemen, that is, with Mr. Fitzpatrick’s | To Tis Excrruzxcy Wat. F. Packs, Govkeson:— 8 y NEW ROOMS FOR THE , tnd honestly, the demecrats have carried the State, and | prietary right of a provisional police for its domains, was | and for the election of delegates to a conventionon the | and Mr. Devlin’s name on; in November Mr. | The undersigned were appointed under the act of Octo- dan ene owl vertheh es — then we are at home and know where we are. it was the | avowedly derived from ‘the assent of the governed.’ | third Monday of June then ensuing. The census was Fitzpatrick had bis own note due for $2,000, about | ber, 1857, by your predecessor, Governor Pollock, Com. COMMODORE PERRY, ETC. emocratic pa: je California a free State clear | And thus, also, is it clear that, so far was Congress in this | taken, the election was held and the elocted delegates as- | the last of November; it was dated the 26th of | missioners to investigate the condition of the Bank of Penn. | The regular monthly gnecting of the Chamber of Com- cown south of es 00 minutes; it was the demo- | celebrated ordineace from assuming a power to restrain | sembled in conventicn on the first Monday in September, | September, and due in the latter part of November; | sylvania. On the 17th of November we commenced our | merce was held yesterday at the Morchants’ Bank—P. cratic party that made Gbio and Indiana, aod Michigan | slavery from the Territories, that it referred ite exclusion | 1857, at Lecompton, the time and piace where and when | could not tel! whether Smith had any note due in Novem- | duties, and after a partial examination adjourned. We | perit, President, in the cbuir. nd Wizconrin tree States: it was the democ party | to x compact with their inhabitants; and the new consti. | they were called together by law. The Convention or- | ber; I have made no examination about Smith; I thought | met again on the 29th of December, and, without arriving ; : oot that, the lead of Tompkins, made New | tution ratifed this agreement on the part of the United | ganised, and subsequently, though having (irstframed and | it was the relations between Mr. Smithand Mr. Fitzpatrick | at a satisfactory conclusion, adjourned. On the 9b inst. NEW MERE York a free State. (Applause) It was the demo. | States by that clause in article 6 which says:—‘‘All | established the Lecompton constitution and providedforthe | and Mr. Fit: ‘ick and Mr. Devlin; the note of Mr. Fitz- | we met again, and now submit our final report. The following gentlemen were elected members of the that made Pennsylvania « free State, | debts contracted and all engagements entered _ submission ofa slavery clause and a non-slavery clause to patrick for $2,000 has not been paid. When we first commenced examining the assets of the | Chamber, viz.:—James E. Southworth, Charles A. Towa. ‘ree State in the Union. No matter whatthe | into before the adoption of this constitution, | the poople, on the 2ist of December they irned. On Terence B. Smith, mi of the Clerk of the Com- | bank, we were astounded at the apparent deficit, and as Price” we ot ‘ 4 husetts may eay, the Sret act of the peo- | shall be as valid against the United States under | the 2lstof December the people approved of the slavery | mon Council, was next called by the prosecution, and tes- | some of the accounts were kept in a confused and compli- | *°%, George D. Cragin, Samuel Perry, Augustus F. Silt @ abolishing slavery was passec by the State | this constitution as under the confederation.”’ Now, sir, | clause by a vote of 6,145. If there is vofraudimputable | tifled—I am in the habit of i @ assessment rolls | cated manner, we wore inclined to think that some man, William H. Fogg, James H. Mulford, W. B. Putaame. Of Pecusylvania during the revolution in 1730, and by the | if, as bas beeu admitted by the very Coripheus of the | to these proceedings it is apparent that the Lecompton | from the office of the Clerk of mon Council to the | errors might be brought to light that might save the bank Mr. E. D. Morgan was elected a member of the Committees democratic party; and if they have not carried Kansas,1 | freedom shriekers of Kansas, the ordinance of ‘87 was | constitution is a Peet cant But it is Street Commissioners’ 1 ; pretty nearly — from an assignment, and the stockholders from a total loss. Iron the rik of their making it a free State as they | thus confirmed by the conatitution of ’8T,as the funda- | alleged that there was a reg: of voters in but nine- one since Icommenced. (Assesiment roll of Forty: While we were pursuing our investigations, and bofore | % Arbitration. ¢ made other States. They know the impartance of | mental laws of the Union for its Territories, bow | teen of the thirty-eight counties in the Territory, and con- | street shown.) I cannot say whether I carried that; the | we had completed them, the bank made a voluntary as- FOREE) A7'Ue CORDES BOWER, fellows know the importance of pre- | Consistent are its provisions with the declaration | sequently, that the unregistered counties were disfran- | sheet is familiar to me; it would be a hard matter to say | signment, thereby relieving us from the necessity of fur- The report of Royal Phelps on Custom House forme, come inte the Union asiave State | of ‘76, with the inalienable principles of popular | chised. Without Pausing upon the fact that the omis- | whether I remember that one particularly; I do not know | ther inquiry into the naturo and value of its present as- | which haa been already published im the Hexaw, wae alive tll the next Presidential | Liberty and with the rights of our race? fThore | sions of registration were the effect of the | but that I have carried it; if | carried it I gave itto Mr. | sets, and the amount of its liabilities. We think it due to takon from the table tee ant aT election, if they have not carried the election and cannot e footprints, sir, im the path of our national progress | design of delinquents, it will be sufficient | Smith and Mr. Cady; I always gave these papers to Mr. | those interested that the causes which led to the assign- ‘Mr. Swiru hoped the re; rt would be adopted, i doit They act under dictation from here without any hich it were weil were we oftever to ins; . They ree to learn that the unr counties con- | Cady or Mr. Smith—generally to Mr. Smith; 1 cannot tell | ment should be given, as {ar as we could ascertain them. | seamed weet “ oaly to the suceees of freedom over there: ani what | mind us of the experiences of the past and the truths by | tained little or no population. This fact is derivabii y iy pee tl nn all fl gi how many times I have carried asseestnent rolls to him. We believe the capital of the bank was very little, if : quan = llows they are by their own account! (Laugh. | which thoy were impressed. We the vastfabricof | from the tables of republican votes =e the 4th of To counsel for defence—I could not tell bow many of any, impared on the lat of Jan , 1863. Tao’. juestion oun Bten. toe venl Ainoaly tay cro sy edtor of the principal paper and the | popular sovereignty serenely reposing in the great decla- | January, 1868. They therein claim 10,226 votes these rolls carried in Noy.; 1 commenced to carry them | naturally presents itself, how was so large a c lost in | was opposed io the appoinunent deny ‘Custom House of- m, the republicans say, has been | ration. We recognize its beautiful symmetry in the memo- | the constitution. These votes are made upof 8,803 inthe after Mr. ‘lor’s death ; | always gave them to someone; 1 | so com ely short time? It is remarkabie that none | fleer on the committee, as his business was to make these bought up for $251 im advertisements (iaughter); and, | rable ordinance. Wetremble at its danger in the cor counties in which registrations bad been taken, and of | never left them lying on a desk in my tife; I bad direction | of the of the bank had any suspicion of its fail- | forms ae intricate ‘ag possible. If Custom House matters great God | what is to become of the cause of freedom if Z f ad we rejoice at its renovation im the | 1,423 in eight of the counties in which it is al that no~= from Mr. Vi to give them to Mr. Smith, of the | ing condition until after the suspension of September, | were conducted in ‘@ proper “manner, seven out of tea ite champions in Kansas can be bought up by the South for | Kansas act of 54. A fifth, registration was had. ft seems that no Totes were to be Comptroller's Office; I do not know what Mr. Smith's con- Ise of the Custom House officers would be dispensed with. ‘® quarter the price of a healthy slave. We democrats | when Kansas shal! be adm: may found in the remaining eleven of these last counties. nexion with the Comproller’s Office was; I noticed that he On the first day of Jan: ', 1857, seven of the then di- roport reforms. aresafe. I trust Gen, Calhoun will give certificates to | that the consummation of a great principle will have Deen | is fair to presume, therefore, that the nineteen disfran- | had a great deal of business with Mr. personally; I | rectors, vins—-Desiel Deal, Charles Stanickson, T. H. New- Peateen we the ed wae tae re those who are logally elected, but to me it is not a matter | achieved chised counties did not contain more than 1,500 yotes, and vever carried these rolls to Mr. Purdy; I carried them | hail, Wm. P. Newian, Isaac P. Morris, Nathan H. Howell | vision. He’ offered a resolution referring the mater of consequenee if it should turn ont that the free State ‘The first four acts already past, that these were confined to but eight of ther Now, ifin from the first of January, 1857, to February; deli- | and William Taylor were [appointed to cxamine the assets | back to the committee, asking them to introduee a me- mon are defeated. There is nothing, then, in any view of A fifth shall close the drama with the day, the nineteen counties in which during the summer pre- | vered them to Mr, Smith nearly every time; | have seem | of the bank; they each certify to a statement, that | morial looking to a reform of all the revenue laws. this case; no matter who is elected; no matter what cheat Time's noblest offispriag is the Inst. vious there had been opened and fairly condacted a legal = Mr. Flees near by when J gave these rolls to Mr. Smith: I | ‘$5,980,064 07 bills dicounted, bills of ox: and ¥ thore may bave been that could authorize the rejection of | If, alr, 1 have succeeded in anything I have proved tho | registry of voters there were a body of men who volun- | do not think Mr. Flagg kuew what they wore about; he | loans were found on hand,” when the books show that the | _™f. Pwmurs explained that the committee confided them- seemed to be engaged: 1 donot kuow of any fooling of | bills of exchange discounted—by which is meant bills pay- | S¢!¥e8 strictly to the subject for which thoy wore ap- Jealousy on the part of the clerks in the Comptrolier’s | able out of the city—all that the pousession of the | Pointed. Office against Mr. Smit. note clerk amoui a to only $2,097,205 00. The Cusim explained that the other reform mentioned George D. Rogers was next called by the ly examined. Tho jh Boy — in the hands of another committee, aad the State. Hut, follow citivens, those gentlemen from | utter incompetency of Congressional interference with the | tarily declined the office not only, but who opposed its ex- ibe free States that ere oppowing the admiaeion of Kanaax | domestic institations of the inhabitants of a Territory. The | ecution; and, if at an ensuing election on the 21at of Decom- will have an account to settle with their constituents. | instance of an express agreement, which is to be found ia | ber, 6,143 of the 9,261 of who had been registered Schall not feeithat | bave discharyed my whol duty, | the ordinance of '#7, bas been followed by repeated in- | voted for the Lecompton constitution, and but 560 of all the frcacraton, ‘These appear to bave Pr dec my bealth and strength shal! be spared, if the | stances of an implied agreement at the formation of every | 10,226 who voted against the constitution January 4, 1858, | and testified as follows:—1 was Contract k in the | balance—$1,873,141 18—they did not examine. These se Abe people of l'enneylvau'aare not made to unierstand | Territorial government since then organized—an as- | appeared in opposition thereto, the question ie pertinent | Street Commissioner's Office, under Joseph &. Taylor; 1 | were the temporary loans and transient discounts in the | , After a brief debate, the report and the following rese- what 1 if, that when a President from that State i elected | sent of the people of the Territory to the | whether, with An opportanity ofered an omiasion to vote is | made out a requisition’ for paving Forty-ninth | President's safe. Without examining them at ali—as cach | ‘tB* Were adopted:— —a patriots man free from all jobe—« man proved as a | Organic act implied by their acceptance of fede- | an offence char; je upon those who voted rather than § street, between Sixth and Eighth avenues; could | of them now testifles—they signed a certificate that they | . Resolved, That the petition of the importers of the eity of yood man, devoting the last years of his life to the service | rai officers and by their representation in Congre-s, | upou thoee who refused; and if, as 1 believe, it is gene- New York and it# viciaity to the Hon. Howall Cobb, Seore- of ee tie no the firet year of office ie not to be | and it is precisely this effect, and no other, which I would | rally conceded that the effect of a withdrawal rom t not tell when; it has been brought in; perhaps be- | were correct. We can imagine bow these gentlemen fore the contract was done; this is not my writing in theso | edithis stalement, on a presumption i was righ, but it | (222,00, le Treasury, praying for reilet {nthe detention ot sustained. {have eo misapprehension about the result of | concede to the Kansas Territorial act—namely, the effect | the polls is a virtual delegation of the power of govern alterations, puts thom in a position of certifying to what we believe | £2" a [1 plas aaa thu controversy in the demooratic party, it will result as | Of a compact between the people of the United States, the | ment to those who attend at them, what language Q. Whose writing is this where Jobn Fit: ick’s name | was ai the time bot correct. These examinations of the Be ani hereby a vio Becrvanry of ths Treasury be all controvers the democratic party have resuled, | obe party, anc the inhabitants of the Territory of Kansas, | can sufficiently condemn and denounce the malig- | has been stricken out and Conklin’s and Sharpe's names | directors are annual or semi-annual, and if they had been repentally requested to appoint a committer, to consiat ot at the same e it is of the utmost importance that | the other party. Now, the chief agreement attested b; Dant act, dictated by an avowed intent to embarrass | pA A. That is mine: the insertion for manholes, | thorough for the Iast four or five years, the great wreck | (o'lector of the Port. the Special Agent of the department, cotton be closed aad closed now, ae las been well | this instrument is, that the people of the Territory shall | and overthrow the government they themselves were | bridge stone and paving, are in my bandwrititg; i see | might have been averted. pb a ny hay RT hg remarked by the President of thir Vel! left ‘‘perfectly free to form and regulate their domestic es to in their agreement with the federal Congress? | nothing diferent trom the original writing; the manhole Examinations 80 pb bh | ‘can Conean Hones Sromdecae' Ge ations in their own way, subject only to the constitu public officer pursuing the Athenian who absented | price is $6; I could tell better if I saw the’ contract; jam the s slavery in this Constitution but no where else. There bape to bave been cannot be too strougly condemned. to be named by the Cham ber—sball 1 a amines contract;) this is a copy of the contract, oh? (ex. | ‘The parties making thie excused themselves by ‘ing | for Tonducting ihe business of the. : aly amine» the papers intently) it like my writing aad | that they took the President's word that“ all was right.” | of New York, which will combi im Kansas, with 10,000 free State men of the United States.”’ A) dant to this is the fur- | himself from the assemblies of the people marked him Ms yet it does not; the word manholes—there is none in the | if that was a sufficient excuse for not examining a part of | Of ‘he revenue laws with simplicity of & evra all the time—" Ran, nigger, you are | ther provision, ‘that when admitted asa State or States | with a vermilion cord. But these men of Kansas, who eter.) What an extraordinary siave State | the said Territory, or any portion of the same, shall be re- | not only negligently, but with design to cmbarrrass and With three State Legislatures nearly in fall oper- | ceived into the Union, with or without slavery, as their cppeve & lawful government, refrained from the elective | contract, and if I had put it there oo the assessment roll) | the assets, they might as well have taken his word for the | ‘*®°™mercial community. ove Topeka—one lLecompton—and one Terri- | Constitution may prescribe at the time of their admission."’ | franchise, be pursued by the public opinion of | | should 44 in my inet 8; I can't tell who | whole, or the statement as found in the books. tt i not Locanon: it is impossible that anything can be | When, therefore, we shall have determined that the peo- | their countrymen, and be branded with the indeliblescar- | wrote that: it don’t look liki writing; I should think ii | less remarkable that the officers and clerks of the bank Mr. Davis, from the Committee on Location, reported more quiet than Kansas is w, and all I can | ple of Kaneas demand admission into the Union of States, | letofshame. Agnin, it is alleged that 5,092 of the 6,142 | was written by the person who put the Inspector's | all appear to have been entirely ignorant of its true con- | tbat they could procure a room in the Merchants’ Ex- say that ifeny one i forcis aneas now Kansas ja | Onder the constitution sow presented to Congress, we will | votes cast on the 2ist of December in favor of the slavery | time; the word manholes is not written by me: the figures | dition. Keeping scandalously quiet, (Lauglier.) And then it | also have disposed of every other question possibly con- | clause were spurious votes. If this is true, still the ma- | look like mine; all that is writien by me is the twenty. | Shortly after the commencement of Mr. Allibone’s ad- | year. As regards income, it was proposed that the mean. toas been stated that many of the democratic party were | nected with the application. It is indisputably true that | jority would be left it 2,562. Ihave heard fre- | five cents per square foot for paving, twenty-five cents | ministration new accounts were opened, and are so coa- the Chamber should pay $10 per year, whic to be seduced, and people have been hanging Tech of | the constitution ia question emanates from a Convention | quent charges made that illegal voters were introduced, | for bridge stone; Ido not know by whom or when the | fused and complicated that neither president, cashier nor | Would give a large fund. windows and standing in the streets, wondering when | elected for the perpose under a competent law of the Ter- | and that grave frauds were perpetrated, to swell the | other items were carried out. clerks seem to understand them: bills purchased, bills After considerable debate the matter was referred to @ loans, to Mr. Bancroft to say that he has passed through the | rected their chief attack upon this point. They submit | ber. Buta slight examination refutes the charge, and will | sition which you did not carry out’ A. (countingone, | accounts, to say nothing of George Peabody's accounts, THE WAREHOUWING COMPANY. Ordeal without harm, an¢ that he hae been back-} thatthe acts of @ Convention representing the people | dispel the illusion. If it be conceded that the republicans | two, threo, four, five, siz,)—Six items; they are: rock exca: | No. 1 and No. 2, are in such utter confurion it is im Ata previous meeting of the Chamber a resolution wag wards and forwards several time to Washing. | are not the acta of the people themselves; and that, there- | actually — all the voues they claim at the election ‘of | vation, two dollars per foot; curb and gutter stones, per li- | possible to unravel them. Buried up in these accounts is passed endorsing @ certain monster warebousing company ton, and no improper proposals have been made to | fore, they have not been free toform and reguiate | Jam |, then these, with the votes polled on the 2ist of | neal foot, fifty cents; five manholes, five dollars each; re oe the capital of the bank. which was chartered the last Logisiature. This waa im. (Laughter.) In fact, there isa stern virtue about | their domestic institutions in their own way. In | December, furnish together a sum total of 17,004. If itis | laying bridge stone. per square foot, eight cents; macad- ‘© bave examined, under oath, the directors, but they | done it the opposition of Charles H. Marshall him that forbids all approaches, and even the adminis. | other words, they affirm the proposition—that popular | true, as | have heard on high authority, that there are | amizing, one dollar and fifty cents per yard; Inspector's ir to know little or nothing ‘about these accounts. Mr, | &ad merchants, who considered Soe schomeo istration under the New Fngiand man never made any | Sovereignty can be exerted only by the people per capita | about 18,000 votes in the Territory, the inference | time, ninety days, atone dollar and fifty cents per day, 1 Newhall, in March last, daring the absence of Mr. Alii- | Which should never have come before the ber. Attempt upon Mr. Bancroft, and 1 am clad to gay oar | of masses, The fauility of the argument which denies | i irresistible that no foreign or illegal votes could | gave the requisition signed by me to Mr. Rowen; bone, was appointed president tem., and from the |. Mr. MansHatt called the subject up by moving to rescind Poaneyivania President has pursued the same cour the popular element to a reppensuetve assembly is the | have been imported. But, when the republicans were me for Jos. 8. Taylor; the words at the bottom, rected $153,000 to be | the resolution endorsing the concern. This created am Laughter.) In my judgment, fellow citizens, the P more spparent when we r¢ upon the impossibility of | voting ra the Lecompton constitution at the iy" , denoting the ; ‘animated debate, and was finally laid over for future com- nt expects to carry this question by reason’ and argu- | * Courtituting any body that it shall not election of Jan 4, at their own polls, they could | erasure i# not mine; I banded it to Deputy Commission sideration. ‘mont, and calling upon the opinions of the democracy of | imterests than its own. Even the mass loads the | procure fall 10, votes. Why, then, were they | ¢r Moore, to put onthe Inepector’s time; I never knew DRATH OF COMMODORE PERRY. the country rs.) And now J wish to call your at- | earth its Uhovsands) is. ‘ith the interests of | unable to furni#h more than 6,400 at the polla adja- | whether there was any Inspector's time or not; all my duty Mr. Mornay offered the following: — tention to if matier—the Dred Scott case. The Su- | the minors and the females of the community, which it | cent, where, fay their adversaries, wore | was to make out the requisition from the contract prices; Reseived, That this Chamber hear with sincere Preme Court of the United States bas decided that question. affects to represent. It were useless, . bo addons for * It may possibly be in bad | | part with it then and know nothing further about it. of the death of Commodore Mathew ©. Perry, of the U1 nis ravaging was to commence. (laughter.) It is due | ritorial Legislature. Ite adversaries, therefore, have di- | vote for the Lecompton constitution cn the 21st of Decem- Q How many other items are carried out in that requi- | receivable, transient discounts, temporary , sterling | ®Pecial meeting for final action. want merely to say a few words upon the subject. | myself to its inconvenience. A 5 soene conjured | taate, I cannot repress the suspicion, at least, that Cross.examined by counsel for defence—i was connect. ma He was taken into a free Terr! and di assert his | before even the disturbed imtellect of La Mancha’s Knight | these men who have so loudly charged fraud upon their | ¢d with the Street Commissioner's office about four years Resolved, That we will, as a body, attend his funceal, im freedom, and then came back to Missouri ai was taken ag | ite inseparable ev iis. adversaries, have hoped that thus theirown might the | and ® half, commenced with James Furey and was under pa weeny ad TS asiave. The question was submitted to the Court, and it ‘So vast @ throng, the stage can no’er contain, more easily escape detection. Well, sir, what are we to | Mr. Taylor afterwards; 1 knew Mr. J. B. Smith; not be- especially of hin zea! manifested—in pre decidet that not having asserted his freedom when be had T here build anew, or act it on the plain. determine from these facts? Why, simply that the Le- | fore be entered the Comptroller's office; made bir ac- of President, appears from | ™oting commercial interests of country. ‘an opportunity he brought himself again voluntarily into Moreever, the records of our national history are crowd 3 Constitution was lawfully ‘approved: but still, | quaintance at once. per! six months after be entered | his testimony to have been entirely for use of the | These were adopted. slavery; that be bad no right to sue in the United States | Od with abundant evidence against the assamption that ', by @ minority of the voters of the the office; we bad no connection; I was Contract | bank. That of Thomas Allibone is indiscriminately made Mr. Augustus E. Silliman was elected treasurer of (ho Court, that right being limited to citizens, and of course a | Sovereignty is incapable of representation. It waaacon. | And yet, sir, whem our own State constitution received Clerk ail the time: gave this requisition to Mr. Tarner; | up of his own and the business of the bank , | Chamber. Blave was Citizen. Afver referring at length to the | Yention consisting of a few del from a small number | 1846, but a of the votes of the State, it was con- | could not tell when; hot seen it since until now to | under oath, that large were made tediet Adjourned. Jndgment of the Court upon the case, and commenting | Of States that in September 1786, at Annapolis, recom- | sidered none the less adopted, because receiving ama- | my recollection; | have no occasion to see it; if | had put | dual credit by parties not willing to open accounts in the ‘(on the remarks made by the Tribune’ on the decwion, | mended the Congress of the Confederation to devise such | jority of the votes cast. Having now shown that the Le- | on those iter# under instructions, | must have received | bank, and theee were from time to time drawn out Political Inte! O cn Rasve@ the honorable gentleman conciuded by expressing a b further provisions ar should be adequate to the exigencies | compton constitution was the legal act of the Lecom them from the Street Commissioner or the Deput; on his individual checks; that very large sums, amount- ‘Tak Cnarrer Exacrion- that the democratic party would unite in sustaining ‘the of the Union, and it was the recommendation from Con. | Convention, and that the convention was the lawful ex. @ Don't you know of other instances in fwhivch items | ing at one time to some six hundred ‘thowsacd dollars | T® Abwisiereation.”—While politicians are chalforing, Presideat on the present question grees in February, 1 which assembled the Convention | positor of the sovereignty of the people, 1 trust that! | were put on your frequisitions after they passed (rem | in ® few days were deposited his friends, | 2¢magogues stirring the fires of smoul: 's At the conclusion of bis remarks Mr. Van Buren wae | in the succeeding month of May which framed the con- pm A gh s belief that Congress would properly | your hande* A. | think I do, sir. Ae and that much of his private account i made up of | 8nd legistators in Congress and Isewhere, holding contra loudly cheered. stitution. Thus, ata suggestion and a recommendation, | decide that the admission of Kanans ie demanded by the Counsel for prosecution objected to this evidence as im. | traneactions etch as these, which were, as he states, for | Versies about “ wool,” the people are rushing te Hoo, Jour Coommawe Wal neRt introduced, and afer { Doth destitute of any specific authority, the people of the | people of Kansas, and that the State should coor ingly be material, but it was allowed the benefit of the bank the of the administration and its measures, and States elected delegates to a convention, and subsequently | admitted. Sir, another question of no inferior importance | Witness continued—I liad nothing but the con To ome of these accounts $25,000 is charged, which wag | Confirming the aemocratio victories of last fall, by stilt Spotogising for detaining the audience at that Inte hour, | accepted the result of ils labore. Hav! rf their | still remains, and J will with brevity proceed to ite con- | tract before me when I made out the re- | given as compensation lo one individual for services rendered | OTe triumphant and emphatic majorities. Took at the Spoke aa follows — | work {that Convention, before edjournial, reonves teas sideration, Kansas. being admitied asaState undertheto- | quisition; the assessment liste never came to Sy ged the sale of the banking house to the government | Blorious array of victories. Tapes pple Mee I purpone to discuse the propriety of admitting Kanga | ‘Be constitution they bad framed should be laid before the | compton constitution, have her people the power tochange* | me; the Surveyor’s return never came to me; when | for @ fice; also various memorandum checks, | Wes0. Poughkeepsie, Little Falls, and a score of towns ant toto te 0 : | United States in Congress assembled: “and that it is | or in any manner to alter it, and at any time they please, | Mr. Taylor was alive he gave instructions that all these | amouni the aggregate to many thousand dollars, to | Villages, comp! the chain Em rape Hie nd be- inion of States under the Lecompton constitution. | the opinion of this Convention, that it should afterwards | 1m not certain that 1 am warranted in detaining this | pepere should be enclosed to him: the Inspector's certifi- | “‘R. J. R.,” “W. C. M. & Co.,” for premiums, &c. (ube Ini. | gum last fall, stretchingfrom tho Atlantic throug e heart State Whether the admission is demanded by ita inbabitants, | be submitted to a convention of delegates choson in each | audience losger than with an affirmation of the propoi. | cate is the first paper to show the work is done: se tials are only marked on the checks of the Lake. Democratic Chomang, 0d whether the constitation presented Ye ropublioan ie | fate by the people thereof, under the recommendation of | ow implied by this tnterrogalory; yet,vo general ie Une ia. | Cond is the requisition for prices om the Geatraat Clerk, | If these sume were paid for wrexinns on uncurrent | 0 the southern tier, and yielding St. Lawrence on the Form, are questions pertinent to the discussion, and which | ite Lagisletore, for their assent and ratification. Article | terest which pervades all classes apon this momentous | third comes the ordinaoce for the making of the improve. | money, or for interest on deposite, they should bave been | Borth, show that the reaction of public sent Congress must decide afir ‘ely before acce the constitution itself provides that ‘' the ratification | subject, that everything pertinent to it is posseased of an | ment: next comes the Assessors’ certificate: then ie, fifth, | charged to interest account, or surplus fund, and not car- | !>ger confined to the centers of ion, bat Biate, Noargument has been mate against the republican Honventions of nine States shall be sullicient for | artificial if nota natural importance, It certainly cannot | the bill of the work: then comes the list of the property | ried pty in Thomas Allibone, president's account, show. | ‘@ Sil directions through the State. This is the form of its constitution, and it may, therefore, be safely | the establishment of thia constitution betweon the States | be seriously questioned that this power resides in, and ix | asseared: there is a Surveyor’s certificate of the amount | ing an erroncousstaterent of ihe earnings or profits of the | !¢ masses on Buchanan's administration. This fakem a4 conceded. Upon the remaining question, how- | 0 ratifying the same.” Here, then, we discover that the | inseparable from the people. Cujus est instituer, qjus ext | of work done bank. mation of democratic asceadency in the State, The sen- , & flerce contest is raging which threatons the stabili origin, the structure, the completion and the ratifiontion of | abrogare, is the language of Algernon Sydney. Kven the | Q. Have you seon writing such as that in this requisi- | We donot find any evidence that the bank at any time | tment that effected the revolution of Inst fail is atrength- in my own the instrument, the entire vitality of which is derivedfrom | Doctors of Laybach fulmint the dogma that the sove- | tion which was not written by yourself? A. Yes, sir; | took more than interest on any bills it discounted, ened and deepened by time, and the joe en y prociivities, I invite the attention of my fel scent of the governed,” are traceable alone tothe | reign power alone is competent to the modification of these items which are added 1 have not examined: the | bot frequentl; bills on large sums at ruinous rates, | Hons of this spring, show that no com! | ny At to & calm and dispassionate in eutigttion | action of conventions elected by the people to represent | yernment. What was thus assumed by the tothe | Surveyors returned the work and bave. been allowed the | We find an account of Bille sold by. R. J. Rosa & Co,, at 2 | Cnongh te destroy or defeat it.—Albany Argus, March 4 Of the facta which should influence their decie: 4 em in their deliberations and acts. Nor are we without | Holy Alliance is inherent in the of the United States | prices, Mr. Devlin removed me on the Ist of July; 1 have | percent month and Commissions. Mr. Quicksall also {0 sccompany me upon An excursion of logical examina- | authority that representation is the only constitutional | sovereignty; and the truism is incapable of argument | not had any participation in discovering theee alleged | sold some for the bank at from 1% to 234 per cent a ms IN THR Sovrm—For the tion. A meoting described in some of our daily | mode rf ascertaining and Cn iy | the popular will, | that supreme power is irres; ible even to itself for the | frauds, I was Deputy Street Commissioner under Mr. Oo- | month. Mr. Charles Henry Fisher from bank at so there has beon (saya the Ala. Prints to have been large and respectable, and which was | That! am right in my construction of these various pro. | exercise of its functions. we are obi: to depend | nover for a time, I loft some time during the fall: T do not | one time about $200,000, at what rate he does not recol- | Sentinel, 16th wit.) a woman in this chy tn apparent presided over by George Bancroft, historian, adopted a | visions, and in their ascribed effect, I here invoke the au. | on neither theory now foreign instances for the support of | recollect of noticing or hearing any expression of joaloury | lect. Mr. Fisher this transaction was made at the ing embroidery and needle~ Fesolution, requeating the immediate representatives in | thority of James Madison that through the medium of | the ion. Our own history furnishes us with am- | of Mr. Smith: I have heard clerke in other departments | urgent solicitation of Mr. Allibone, to save the bank from inion seems to have beon that of of the city of New York (myself among the | conventions was the constitution submitted to the people , and frequent applications of it. James | say that Smith had agood deal to aay and do; I can’t name | @estruction in 1863. This was the only time Mr Fisher tampering with our slave population, On one or moss Humber) to oppose the Lecompton constitution, as re- | themselves, (Federalist, page 184.) I need not, 1 am | Madison, in No, 40 of the Federalist, defends our present | any of the clerks: T could not tell where 1 heard these | bought the bills discounted from the banks. oseasions sho waa known to have held conversation with: ured by the prineiples of lar sovereignty and by | sure, remind my fellow citizens of the marked distinction | constitation as the act of the people, though originally re- | remarks, or with what departments they were connected. It does not take much calculation to perosive that in die. | slaves well calculated to create a spirit of insubordination fandam principles of racy. © request | that existe between a republic and a democracy. Perhaps | commended by ‘“‘a very few deputies & very fow Witness continned—All the items on the assessment lit | counting bills in large sume at 6 per cent, and selling them | and rebellion. As soon as these were ascortained hue resolutely made by gentlemen 60 table and | a pure democracy bas never been known. Those of | Staten,” and asserts thai the approbation of the people | are in the Surveyor’s return. from 21 to 27 percent, there is a great loss that must be | this female embroidery and neodiework teachor was givom > Gistinguisbed | would return a courteous, though a nega- | Greece wore governed by lar aasemblies composed | “blots out all antecedent errors and irregularities.’ Mr. Braprorn recalled, and examined counsel for hai to some account to kee; books straight. | to umderatan: presence be Bive response. And jest I may be charged with an opinion | of but one tenth part of te vole, aod in their represen. | Every constitution of the original thirteen i poy SS wore no notes of either th or Dov. ‘and camse of bit in thir pl mae took tee thet, ‘and on jagt Sunday GwAwabng (rom party aovessiticn alone, 1 Will oudgayor to ' tative capacity were egugequeut'y more strigt'y ropablies — dergone Ouanges, aad yet the constitutions of none, in discounted in November vaurious interest om deposita The inte presidguk morning departed (or Montgomery i s z : ZF E 2 3 Z