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a ‘tus. ‘4 & sf F rH g a S87 Document No. 11. & ts agreed between the parties 40 this lease at fol- to allow tho party of for keeping the rooms clean and in good during the cold sea- ty of the first part part one bundred doll seserved by gakl party of the Orst and to make the requisite ‘wash all the towels and napking used by said part til end of the term of this lease, party of the second part agrees not to @eor plate or paper on the outside w: elean, &c., a8 above @pecitied, and to the satisfaction of tho part, he, the said party of the first part not pay for the time for which sucd attention bas boen in a satiefactory manner, to said party of e rooms 9 be swept twice a weok and day, windows to do washed once a month, to bo washed once aday,and fires made as jy bed to be made eve t n fF i | ; tel 4 é water iixtures w be kept ia ro- gS < g E E Be % 5 MRS. E. A. ———, {smar.]} “ HARVEY BURDELI.. fret, ome papers, . Mr. myzelf marked them, and’ he kept them in e PI E Stone tm A eA tm Oe AEA EAR R 1 OSH el BG ted She RAL I al ! ous of getting paszes- . Clinton—Did she say that? A. Yes, sir, Cross examination,—Q. You are the Captain of Police of ‘hich is 81 Bond street? A. You ou had charge of tho prem!- 5 TESTIMONY OF ERASTUS WILSON. Examined by Mr, Hall—Q. Mr. Wilson, what Is your profees'on? A. Iam a dentist. Q Where was your place of business last January? A. @. Did you know Dr, Burdell? A. Yen, sir, @ Did you know Mrs. Cunningham? A. Well, rir, I | z door? A. Yes, sir; - of tas tal tere atthe time? A. Ido noi was itnot? A. I beliove Q Dict you ever ace Dr. Burdoll operate there? A. Yos, ir; I have eeon bim jn there with patients ; It was a con- to take Jadies into when the other room was ou ever there in the day time? A. Fre- hat purpose did you go—ne a vistter or on pro- ness’ A. I sometimes called on business. ure the laboratory there? A. I did some- ‘nh Chad & laboratory at my own house. stated before the Coroner that you callad there of using the laboratory? x etwall lathe for the purpose of se} an {mprovement on those fo mo to call in and uae it, and J did A. Yes, sir, the tooth: when this eon- red? A. Well, sir, in thinktn bank account, 1 found that 1 of November with the Artizans’ Bank; J a week after I commenced the account, after election day; I went to see Dr. Burdell in to baaking business; Mra. Cauningham very ci- fnvited me tuto the parlor, wheu was oot; Lam quite sure that it wae before that Theard the expression: Ishould think several weoks. You stated before the Coroner that ft was October or November? 1 axcortained that oa could not tell ict ; ef ‘Bre Rot quite eare now, are you? A. I foel qaite from the fact shat since then I revolloct thi ie ' g i i a & 4 é fi t t ; i ad z fi E | Fit i t 3 i, © e i F = < ccf Fy i i f - = Fy ef z é z i =] te i j i 1 Z k i i = & i = a & i ‘ z ES 23 i a Se te. Z 22 5 E te Hi learn to behave it not he (Dr, Bmith) will estore he ae this house? A. nything to bor at that ime? A, I did el ne wiuvely that the remark was this: 1} will earn him to behave Bimself before he A. T think ore no — io " that wae remark. Saletioed A. Aa ST andorstood [t. memoranda of the exact expres. 1 wtreet on tho yeh all into the Inboratory, toarn to behave him. She sald Dr, Bor: tt. eaves this houre!”* No, sir, 1 did wet. Were you in the house 31 Bon beford the murder? A. Yes, passed throng the ! yemalued about five minutes min? A, 1 think it was one 0 laboratory whonever you wiahed, Dootor’s invitation? A. Yea, eit. About what time f 4 A. 1 generally wout in after my that had yon beon in| A fede A m_ #00 Mra, Bardo!) that evening? A. 1 saw Ore going in or outf A As I wae going wor eho ? A. Bho was going Sasoencna Sunt ‘stairs. a, oo A. Ibe etreat? ¥ A. Yea, sie, timo you fot 31 Bont atroet 88 you recollect? A. Tothe All, oF do you recollect? A. te 5 Er ge = ; 2 z 2 coche 37 s i. as F3< oe elles : s ( 3 3 Bt 09 eal ev eieg offanalve, ike burned wool- igen revolleotat what tee of night you retired? A. Sean aes ar any eouipds thet Bishi? A, None, what- ‘Q. Do you know Dr. Biaisdel? A. 1 never saw him to WARREN LELAND’S TBSTIMONY, Warren Leland was the next witness called, Being sworn, ho testified as follows:—~ Q. You are one of the joint proprieiors af the Metropoti- tan Hote), i thi city? A. Yes, sir, Q. Did you kiow Dr. Harvey Burdoll? A, Yes, sir, Q. Was he a guest or boarder at your bouss? A, Yaa, from 4, generally, opti! he went to his house, D. Was boo oF day boarder? A, He was a day Did he have bis breakfast thero? A. Yea, breakfast dipner, Q aie breakfast hours? All hours, I sup- pose, from 7 to 11? A. Yos, al) boura, ‘What was hie usual time of dinner? A. From 2to 8 o'clock; be olned about 6. Q. And what time did he generally breakfast thera? A. T am not so certain about his breakfast hour; I think adout 9 o'clock, Q Did you see him on the day of his kitling—that fa, Friday? ‘A, No, air, District Atorney Hall—Gentlemen, the witness is with you. The defondant’s counsel not having any quostiona to ask the witness, Dr, Samuel W. Parmeloe was next ealled and teat!ilod a4 follows ‘DR. PARMELER’S TESTIMONY. Q. Yon are a dentist by profession? A, Yes, rir. Q What is your aumber in Bond strect? A. 30 Bond ptreet. Q Your bouse is direotty opposite 81? A. Not exactly opposite; 29 ia rectly oppesite, Q You are wearly opposite? A, Tam a door nearer Brondway. Q. How long have you tived there? A. I have lived there ten years. Q. Do you know any circumstances of this case, as we term it, on the Friday night of the killing; or was your at tention in any way ataracted $> this bouse that pigbi? A. ‘Yor, rir, it was. Q. At what hour? A. Well, it was particularly attracted to that house about 11; it might bave been a very little be- fore 14; it war about 31 o'elock. ‘The Court—Thot is, on the Friday night on which tho Doctor died? A. Yes. Q. By what circumetance waa It attracted to this house? A. Well,! was in ty room that evening; in my sleep- ing room, the large front room on the second story, until 4; o'clock; I then weet out and walked up Broadway as far as Eighth etreet; was at the corner of highth street. Prisoner's counsel asked that the witness be made counting hinv elf to the question. Wituess proceeded—Wohen I went at that time there was something thusual in the atmosphere at 934 o'clock which atiracted iny atention; | have since mado op my mind— alee Clinton—Nover mind about what you made up your nd to, Aur, Hali—I think it would be evidence which you would want to get; but nover mind; go on. Mr. Clinton—Yon can etate what you smelled, ‘The Court—Never mind; go on. Witness proceeded—I was at tho corner ef Fighth street und Broadway when tho lighta wont out in the Mercantile Library, and in that way Ifix tho time at 10 o'clock; I then went home; the atmosphere was then clear as usual; l went upto my room and remained per- bape fifteen minutes. Q. How long would tt take you to walk from the Mer- canile Library to your house? A. Five minutes, perhaps; T was in my room fifteon minutes ul ; T then called my dog and went out again, and walked until nearly 31 o'clock; it might bave been @ tittle before ¢leven when I turned to go in for the night; whilst standing on my eteps there was aga na smell of gomething burning diffe- rent from that which I had noticed at half after nine o'clock. Mr. Hall—Iet tho smell be dereribed, subject to the aotententis objection on that polnt. Describe the last emell. Witnese—Jt wae tho amoll, I think cloth, @ You then stood upon your stope? A. [stood on the steps looking up and down the street, and trying to make up my mind, Mr. Clinton—Never mind that. Witneas—The thing that then atiractod my attention was a bright light in the attic window, op the vide wards J Bond street, Q. In the attic window of which and what boure? A. bir yr. howe, Q. Which attic window? A. On the side towards Broad- way—on the west side. %. Woil, wir? A. While torking at thal tight it diminiah- @1 very much, which soos my attention, directed »- warde the window; {t then flashed up again, ‘and soon sub- sided again; 1 looked at it there for the third time that way, and whistled to my og. . Cintoo—Nevor mind dog—loave out the dog; he MDM Where waa the dog? A. Fle the opposite side . waa the . He was on s of the and would not come over. Defeniavt’s counse) addressed the District Atiormoy, ob- Jocting to this. The Court to prisoner's connsel—You should make your by prided pty ag that what thie » Ci w! dog dior eald (laughter) bas nothing to do with this de- Tho Court tnetructed tho witness to confine himself to the questions, and he proceeded: WM; ewne burning 5 — was par- Ucularly occupied uy that houre by the unusual dark- nees of tho house evening; Iam outa deal in tho evening, and that house had gonerall bi cheerfal tka place, bat ad ug i waar dark, counsel—Ix this witness coming bore to give us his improesione? Ho bas been conspicuous enough in this matter, ‘Mr. Hall—t! object to such remarks. Prisonor’s counsel—I bave a right to speak here— The Court—You have a right to object. I will conline the witness to a statemont of the facta. Prisoner's Oounsel—-We know all about the feelings and | this withess—bis connections of my ‘ions here. Anomad 4 the witness)—Go on, Witnese—When I left my steps 1 went over to the steps of No. 81 Bond «1 and went upon the stoop. Q. By the Con 31 Bond street, opposite? A. Yes, tir; Y went thero for @ ‘enlar . Vrisoner's counce!—TI insist that this witness shall an- ewer questions categorically. Let the Dirtriet Attorney axk questions and let him anewer them and stop. Q. id any clrowmetance, and if so, what, attract you to that spot? A. 1 went there for my dog. Q. Did you, whilst there, make any examination of tho premnises,and if #0, what? A, Tmade no other than wo notice that it was very dark—thore was no light. Q. How far upoo Qin rtoop did you go? A. Very near the door, sir. Q. Whore did yon thon go to, or what did you then do? A. Lerosmed the rtiroct to my own house; I stopped in about the middie of the atrect and Jooked to the window to woo if it was atill light undertaking to give bis Q And what did you soe? A. A light was still in the | room. Q. And what was then the charaoter of the light? A. Not | a hig os ae Thad seen tt bofore. Q Flow long dit you eantinue looking at the room during the last timo after you croased tho sirest? A. T cramed the etroet and went yp to my house, Q. Where and what wre the last observation you made | ofthe premisea? A. Before gotting to my door? j _— you went in yon did not notice the premises? A. No, ete, Q. Hlave'yon over been examined before? A. No, «ir. rvexarination by Mr, Clinton—Q. Doctor, you at. teuded before the Coroner, did you pet, from ay day, hile he was hekding the Inquest? A. 1 wae in there fre- poepily. | ? Was there a day dnring the Inquest that you were n% there? A. I caunct etate positively whether there war a day 1 wae not there, but I think there was. @ To the best of your recoUrction, were you bot there nearly every day? A. 1 think I wae there noariy every » Dut cannot say | eae there every day. How do you fix the time when you first went ont Dat evening? A. Hy a porfeet fecollection of looking at the clock; [t wet mucb later than my ueval time of going ont. Q. Fialf-past nine wae later? A. Yos, much later, Q@ You spoke on your direct examination about an an- usual etate of the atincaphere Chat ho was there any orn 8 Reh tem @ that when went out? A. No, vir, 1 don't know that there was. nee Thin’ peak to Dr. brrich Parmaiee, a nephew pene, has thie emell of bu clothing you perceived pp OP eS of tho evening, oF ae early ws 10 WR o’elock? Qt whked if stated that? A. I dont know that mates that it ‘was burning ckathing; Tesid I actioned @. You are & browier of Rearar Parmalce, the colsbratet dentist, and Errich te bis von? A. Yes, sir. & Here you conversed with bin A. Yeo. x — Fou conversed with Nr. Kleaser Parmele’ A. 0, air. Q. Do you ewear you 4) not tail him this eued of torn. ng tiothlog x ~ , Woollen, feather, or whatever it wat yoo | A. 1 didn’t te him | perceived, waa before 10 o'clock? what it war. Q Did you not tell him that ae fr ae you ceuld tell this emell was perceived by yoo ae early ae 10 o'clock, or somethin that effect? “f told him Tf emoit something uo. ual before 10 o'clock. Q. Will you say you did net tel! him you ing clothing, or wlateyor it war, before 30 ovuld net gay, 1 dow't know, not talked with bim frequently on thie sir, Dhave no recollection of talking with burn. At subject? A.'S him but once Q. Didn't you tel! yeur wife it was before 10 o'clook tha FOU peroeived this knoll of clothing, or whatever it wae A. T now say it was before 10 o'elook. Q That you porceivet the sinell of burning clothing A. i don’t know what 4 wae, there wat a etme'l unueual st 9}, o'clook; it was oconsioned, I believe, by the burning A sap at the ecep Pretory near, Q. Was ta smell of burning soap? Q Can you ewoar as a mation of 5 Was not the burning of — A. No, sir. Q it Fou Aistincdly whether you did not state to your wife, a day or two after thie murder cocurred, that it was before 10 o'clock that yon emelied that emoll of burning clething? A. 1 don know what it wae. Q. In your conrereation with the Dector did you aay anything of barning sfter 10 o'clock? A. I can’t to#. Q. Did you say to Dr, Parmaloe that it occurred in the early parlof tho evening, and that you smelled burnin, woollen carly Inthe evening? Af told him { emetic somethity onuwTual v4 2 Q. Tid you epeak to him of burning clothes? A. No, 1 didn’t toll Rim what Ht was, Because T didn’t know. @ Did you speak of any other smell than the one you roetved Defore 19 o'clock? A. 1 don’t rocoliect that 1 id, don't kuow but fl did; dont recollect; wo talked a Jong time about it. @. Now, air, did you Jook at your watch or at any time. pieos from the time yeu left, at 9X4 o'clock, until you again returned that evening? A. No, sir; T have no roool- thoan of 20. we tnd uve Miareantiio 1 bofore yor tent there? A. The light were remling room before | left. @ in thn reading room, you my? A Ton, sir, A. T don't kaw dical ecience wat it bat uj ont in ‘Vou say you went across to 31 Bond street for yeur had you Bot frequently been to other in ibe eesonpe wad oy vA ney Ms v3 ou Ro to bere Mr. Robinson i fori? A. ton ig ‘y ne Q. You never have had such @ circumstauce oocur to erhnet A. Never went to another man’s house aller ra Q. Did you never have another euch ogcurrenca? A. I have been obliged to pitch the dog into the streets three or four times, and pever knew of such ap ovcurrence as that before, Q. tis ited that I ask yon the breed of that dog? A. He is a elnchoo; he ts a spaniel. Q. How oldis be? A. He is about a year old. Q. Atthat time or now? A. Well, at that imo I should gay a year old, Q, Not fully educated waa he? A. Not very fully. Q. What kind of a night was thaw A. A very damp te ne carte A. Not very; it is over very dark in Bond street. Q. Did it rain or snow? A. Not previous to that time; I think the walk was o litt damp when I went in the last time, about 1) o’clock. Q. Was it hail or snow? A. If it was snow it melted im Mediately; there was ho sbow on the ground. Q. Was there three or four inches snow on the ground when you got op in the morning? A. There was. Q. Did it rain all day the next day? A. Very fast in- deed. Q Are yon not a mau of very etrong temperament? A. I don’t kn ow that I am bee ta dd Q. Aro you not very excl A. T don’t think I am very. renee ae 9 eet Yas vory st in} you I en- ter if earuest into whatever I undertake. Rive my attention to whatover Ihave ou hand. Q. Haven't you taken a very active part in this matter? A. 1 was very indifferent to the matter at fret. Q. But from time to time you became very much warmed vpand gealous aboutit? A. Ihaye been moro Store: ted in it trova 8 particular timo, Q. From the the of the inquest bave younot devoted a =. prt mae A. No, sir, nota great eal mae. Q.. Baye you not offunal to apend money in it? A, Not w Or TaM’t ask if you had spent anything, bot if . a"t al Spent any ing, but n had offered wt A. Taover oftered. to cpend i farthing in mater. Q. Have not the relatives of the Doctor made a rondoz- yous of your house in this matter? A. No, &. Were they vot there on Bunday last? A. A cousin of the Doctor's, wire; they were thero and dined with im. a Q. Were you there and dined in company with thom? A, No, pir, 0, Bir. @. Mr. Bulen, was ho there? A. Mo@uiro and Bulen were togother. Q. Who is Mr. Hutton? A. Ho is a merchant here and an acquaintance of theire, as T understand. Q. You said that house that night was very dark? A. On that night it waa very dark. Q. How long aiter that homicide was’it that you conclud- ed itwas very dark? A. It was notafter the homicide that I know of, @ Did you notice the houre at 9 o’clock, when you first went out? A. Just before I went in the last time. @ You think it was not quite eleven? A. It might have been a few minntes before. Q. It was dark at that time? A. Yes, sir. Q. Do you know whether the lights wero put out at 11, in the house, as @ general thing? A. As a goneral they were bot; there wero Spanraly lights in tho houso when I went in for the night; it was a very light, pleasant, a Whee eee ine canal tick f bulati was ime for your ions in the evening? A. I generally rearued 49 my house oe wna da} time for going out? A. About . wat Was your 2B e for ont . About nine or a little before; sometimes little child went to bed a little earlier, and sometimos a little later; 1 wont out when she went to bed. a SiG 709 aie 8 panies of remaining out from nino tocleven? A. lh was my custom to be out a great deal in the evening—n two honrs in the evening; {t is my only timo for Dut 1 do not walk all tbo gle, . ‘And your usuni dime for going out was 9 ‘clock? A. Us m)ly I went out about that time, Q. Don’t you sometimes go out as carly a8 8? A. Ido sometimes, Q Had you any rule as to how long you would be out? . Eleven was my time for 4 @. Don’t you home and set up a little whilo before Ten't you frequendy' sw upaa hog as half en hour ou freque up a8 long ag half an wore retsiag? ‘A: Bommel. ,. you situp an hour? A. No, sir. . Never sit upan hour? A. I don’t say never. were lights at 25 Bond street that ugh? A. Pee 23 Bond street when you jon" know. A. I don’t know; didn’t go to the > eee i 23 fH Z Pee hed eleiele Sie | Hanis ae is 4 ~ Ese a igs za 3 e i EH 5 not ooenpied? A. Tho front rooms, family live in the back part of the the practice at 27 Bond street in to f erectage ee Spare es SE Al yy A. Ob, this is a boarding house, and A. I bave noticed the lights thero at 2 Fy i = £= Eee avis Fice i e > @. How Inte have you seen @ light thore? A. Ihave $°G Che yon ropoliont aay ofsantva whea you ‘sav alight thston quarter of an hour before Il? a. i cau't Q you seo Mghis in any parboular number of A. No, sir. Q So pum ioe 68 woes te Ges Webes Wore generally pet out there? A. No, sir. a Q Were the lights ugually iit at 11 o'clock? A. I don’t now. Q. Do you know an: about it, whether they put them out at 9,10 or 11 o'clock? A. I have no recollection of seeing the honse darkened in tho evening. Q. Do you recollect within three months of peeing any window dark? A. Yes. Q What ones? A. The window tn the second story. Q. At 23 havo you noticed when the lights were put out? » No, sir. . Was it the practice to have the parlors lit the wholo evening? A. I never noticed in particular, Q. Havo you ever noticed whethor there were lights tn | the attic of ‘that or any adjoining house inthe night? A, 1 never noticed, Q. Now, wir, rm say that the hoase 91 Bond street waa enerally very light. Were there gonorally at that time, fi ghia inthe ‘second, third or fourth etory as late as py he second story. @ Was there in the third? A: In the third I think there was, Q. How late did you mually observe lights in the parlor of 81% A. Lheve seen lights as jay as 1 havo been out, often. Q. Have you often roen lights in the parlor as Inte aa 11 winight? A. Yes, sir, 1 think so. 'Q. Wore you aftiend of Dr. Bartell? A. No, str. @ You knew him by eight? A. 1 was yory familiar with the appearance of the man, but pet soquainied with him; he never visited me nor I him on sny occasion. Q. Were you one of his palibearersy A. Yoo; 1 wae jursterd. Never mind that. J did not aek to cart any reproach upon you. You aselted? A. Yes, but not by my web. Q Have you ever boon in the attic of Sl Bond street before the death of Dr. Burdell? A. Never; neither before nor alter. p, By You examined as @ witness bofore the Coroner? A. No sir. m @. Did you make known the fact ae to the light of which you knew to the District or the Gorouor? A. Yor Sir; 1 think I spoke to him about nl . Tid you ask him to call you as a witness? A. No sir; Tdid not Wich to be called aa a witness. @. Are you certain that you told Goroner Connery what yor have toll here in reepect toa light? A. Yes, wir. Q. At what Gme? A. During the inquest, sometime; dov't know. Q. Was it before the Jury rendered their veriict? A. Yes, sir; 1 bad no conversation with the Coroner alter. wards; what ! told him particular I don't know. S Lashed if you told him of the light in the aitic? A. T think I did. ; Q. Are you eure? A. 1 will not say povitively, but think aia. Q Were you examined a a witness before the Grand Jury? A. No, sir. @ Dit you make known to tho MMstrict Attorney tile fact before the Grand Jory’s verdict? A. Ves, wir, I did. Q Did you met anybody In the street that night ia Bond vtreet wi you cane Lane before you went inte your howe? A. Not anybody that I knew. @ Md you moetanybody? A. Yes, I met two persone, ti KLAR. @ Which way did you come into the street on your re- tarn heme the Inst ime? A. Tho last time I came from the Howery, the first time from Broadway. @ Which cide of the #treet did you walk home? A. On the north wide. @ Did you meet two persons on Uist cide of the street in coming home? A. | muet two persons between my house and Broadway Q That is not what faked. On your return home tho last time botwoen the Bowery and home? A. No, sir; I don't remember meet.ng anybody. @ What time did you rewurny A. It muct have boon a Ute after ten o'clock. @. How long had you born out the drat time? A. Thad been out about half an hour; « very lide over half an hour. @ Taking » walk and returning? Q. You then came from Broadway? Broadway. Q. How long Sid yon stay in turned? A. Perbape a quarter Q. How far did you walky to Bleecker, and in Bons! street. Q Did you go up Broadway? A. Not tany sim. Q. Did “you go down Browtwayy A. [think not far; 1 returned up Rond street and down to the Bowery; some times walking and sometimes running. Q Did you run very fast? A. Not vory thet; but 1 hat aken lees exercise than usual. Q Irit _ usual babit to ran when yoo intg at night? A. It is, air. Q When you hal gone nearly (6 Bleecker street which aide did you walk on to the Bowery? A. Un the north site A. Yea. A. Yos, from our hou after you re an hour. oat walk. and retarne? the same way. Q mt ri 9 any distance on the Soeety after you renched that street?) A. Not far; I went to Groat Jones and then returned. . When you came bao the fast me Lo nae any. ly in the etreet before entered your aal bave no recollection that { dtd? Q. Haveyou rt » Ihave inn you any on the cubject? A. T 5 only reason I recollect seeing any one in Bond ype Ay suspicious charecters, and i tarned Q Were te front of ~ RAE deat Q Ee were yes from thems whee yoo turned from } 1 Petibe Goatel sor the Gefonoe.—A meebanle could make A. T waikod upand down | NEW YORK HERALD, THURSDAY, MAY 7, 1857.-TRIPLE SHEET. tho want A. Perbaps a red from them; 1 was only a fow Q Did you go from the walk inte the stroot? A. Whe- Wher ] stepped of the walk or not | am not sure. Q. You could not have gone by without turning out? A, Tt was a wide walk and J couki get by. o Yoru them a wide berth? A. Yoa, I gave them awide _ Q. What kind of looking persona were they? A. Joan- or Laecerlnetnem, cae fo” Q. Were they tailor short? A, I think they were middle sized, Q. OM or young? A. Tean't tell, Q Had they whi-kers? A. I don’t rocollect. Q. To you rece liect anything whatever in respect to thoir perrupal appearance? ‘\, No vir, Q Were tho rhabbily dreased? A, They looked Miko rough ebaractere, Q Waa there anything cleo rongh about them? A. They wore walking in a Manner I didn’t ke, . Were they walking slow? A, Thoy were walking rather slow. a Q ew you give afolier deveription of their walk? A. No, sir. @. Wes there anything cso ia their movements which ia suspicious except their walk? A, They were sus- ious. Q. In their movements? A, I shoukl say they wore suspicious in their walk, Q. Were they talking? A, No, sir; they were not together; I met one, and passed on aud met anothor. Q. How far apart A. They might have been—I dou't know, I parted sovera) botzewsay two hundred foot ayart. Q. Was one a tatl man and the other a short one? A. I could not deseribe them; didn’t notlee then enough. _Q, Can you recollect what coat they bad on? A, No, air, ). Whether it wae a raglan or an overeoat? A. I can- not. Q. Cannot recollect any item of dress, cam you? A, J capnot. Q Can you recoiten A. Dew’t know whe cher they had an any overcoat? thoy had or not. '@. Lid each one look enrpiciou? A, Yea, L didn't Who the looks of either of them, Q. Was one as suspicious as the other? A. Tsay I did not like their appearance and turned out. @. Did ono Wook more suspiions then the other? A. ‘The last was, perbaps,a tittle more auspicious than the ober; whether it was became 1 was moro exelted {don’t know, having mei the other, Q , Were you nota geo dead frightened with the appearance of these men? A. Not muvh; I merely turned out to avoid them. Q. What excited you? A. I might have boon # little ex- cited from seeing the tirst ono, Q. Did you notice a light in any other attle on the south side of Bond st ect tbat night? A, Net a4 I recollect. Q. Have you any recollection on tho subject? A. That window 38 the only one I examined, and I should not havo examined that but for its being unusual; 1 thought Dr. Bur- Goll’s house was on tire. Q. Will you swear there was a ight or not on that skle of Bond street? A. I can’t swear there was, Q. Will you swear there was pow? A. I can’t swoar there was not, for my atiention was attracted to that, Q. Are you nota very nervous man? A. No, sir. Q. Notatail? Are you not distinguished for that among many of your acquaintances? A. I don’t know that! am; don’t consider myrelf so, Q. Was there any snow or tee in the atroot that night? A. Don’t think thoro was any; the walk waa a little wet. Q. don’t moan whether it snowed, but whether thero was not old snow and ico in the stre A. Oh yea, there was ice in the street, but the walks were dry. Q Did you cross the street in the snow? “A. There was. no snow that I got into; it was all hard. Mr. Green, a juror, examined the witness a follows:— Q. Did you observe the timo of night when you went in ote Alt vg oe ig tp i ‘ you guess at it or did you a timepiocel A. My wife was set:ing up with @ sick lady in the house, and I looked at the clock. Q. Was it not unusual for you to return and go out a second time? A, J often do it, sir. See you came in that evening did you seo any light in the third story windowr? A. I can’t say. @. You don’t know whether story windows were lit up or not? A. I can’t say. TESTIMONY OF EDWIN BH. STONE. Edwin H. Stone, examined by tho District Attorney :— Q@. You are connected with the Lafarge Hotel? A. Yes, oir, Q. Did you know Dr, Burdell as @ boarder et tho La fargo Hotel? A. Yes, sir, Q. What months did he board there? A. During tho months of October, November and Decembor last. Q. Do you know at what time in October he commencod boarding there? A. No, sir. Q. He took breakfast, dinner and aupper there? A. Yos. Sees usually? A. Supper js from ‘Ho was regular tn his attendance? A. He was, sir, 9 _@ Wore you at Dr. Burdell’: and Mrs, Cnoninghano' bore on the Friday big death? ios . As what box rP eran 4. About four oialock. ro ‘Cunningts , Burdett mee? A. Mrs, Gunn aun and if wore vit wore iy tha back | Rehan Q. You raid the examinatinn must bo mp ruded aches. teft the rvom? A. bead pathing of the kint. @ What ort yeu say? A. | aid nothing; while Dr, Car. was there 1 aakb nothing; while Or. Gitiman was said 1 must go rough with the examination aad iD parlor; whilst I was speaking to ber Dr, Burdeil came dowo at afer I bad got throach he might eonduet his. #talre; she opened the parlor door as he was walking along the passage towards tbe frant door; sb eithor said to bim, ‘ ere are going, Harvey?” or “Whattime are you ng home” It was one of these twa expressions, but Leannot ray which, Q. What reply did he make? A. I aid not hear iy he said comething, but T did not hear what it was, Q. Bhe left yon to go out to the hallto him? A. Sho opened the door and WA me in the parlor, and want out; T beard the footeteps coming dawn @talre; che qu she asked bim ls as tikely to be one aa the othor of these, Q. What was the object of your interview? 3. On Thursday previour sha bad sent for ma; ahe wanted to know whether | had aiscoumted a note of bors for $190~if pot, 1 was to return | Q. Did you evar be nt notes for her? A, Yee, Q. How many? four or ave, Q. Wore they notes on which her own name was pat? A. Yea, Q. As maker or endorser? A. Ay maker, with one ey ception, Q Upto how late at A. I should thipk aon + tod for her? more prior to that ime, a Q. Did you diseount this pote om Friday aftaraoon? A. I did not; I paid the note away in busines aud toh her W it was taken, as} presumed it would be, { would tender her the money, less 7 per cent, Q. How long were you there? A, Not mora than five minutes. You bad been a lodger in the bouso at ane time? A. , elr. Crosa examined—Tam requested to ask you to repea the language in whieh Mre, Burdell aldreseod the Docior on that Friday when he was going ont? A, She said “Harvey, what tin shall you be home?” of Where aro you going’? @. Just as one would ordinarily address a person g out? A. Cortinly Q. Anything unusnal about 1? A. Nothing at all. TESTIMONY OF DR, WOODWARD. Dr, George F, Woodward examined by the District At tormey, Q. Did you nike a certaln post mortem on the body of Dr. Burdeli? A, 1 did, marketed by Dr, Wood, Dr. Ub) and Dr. Knight. Q. On what day? A, [40 wot resolleot; i was the Mone day after the murder, Q. Did you reduce to writing the result of your post mortera?” A, We cid, sir, Notes produced abd banded to witness—These aro in the handwriting of Mr. Dodge, now Dr. Dodg». Q. At whoee dictation were they (the notes) made? A, At mine and Dr Wood's, The District Attorney read the papor to the jury. It is ial report ef the doetors who mada the post mor: iration, and wes published among tha proceed- ¢ Coroner's inquest, ings of 1 one an tuch frrm the left nipple: did you dissect that wound? A No, alr. Q Did any ove? A, Not that I am aware of. Q What would bo the effect of a wound of that kind? A. It sould bo Inatantaneous death, Q. Was the first wound upwards or downwards? A. Tho couree of the wound was inward and upward Q. The second wound is 245 inches downward, and In- ward from tho wound first deseribed. Aro you able to mber what that wound penetrated? A. That was not the blew whith pene rated the heart. Q. Well, this other blow between the fourth and fith ribo? A. That penetrated the apex of tha heart. Q. What would be the medica! character of that wontd? A. St would not mecessarily produce death immodiately, Q. I will call your attention to thea wound in tho neck severing the carotid artery. Witness p inted out where the woud entered—just below the lobo of the ear, Q. The face wound? A. That was superficial; it was More glanclog ont. Sar would be the offoet of tho wonnd In tho neck? A. Death, Q. Bow soon after given? A. It might be perhaps halfa mibute—depending on circumstances, Q. Are you abie to state whether the blow was given from behind, or how it waa given? A. My impression is that it waa given from behind; that is my opinion from tho direction of the blood on tho door and from the wound, Q. You saw theee premises? A. I did. Q. Assuming that the doctor stood with his fice to the ing to the hall, with his band on tho knob, or in vieiuity of the knob, with his face directed towards loor, could you, from your knowledge of the wound, y where the party’ who surack the blow {x most likely 10 havestood? Question objected to and withdrawn. How wary necessarily mortal wounds dit ody of Dr, Burdell? A. The wound tn the heart wound In the neck were mortal; death would on. find o ¢ He was very conscientious about that? A. Yos, sir, Judge Davies intimated to counze) that that was hardly . ‘A Juror—Did ho take supper tho night of tho homicide- vere re? Ji Davies—-Ho was boarding at tho Metropolitan Ho- weit Liat time, TESTIMONY OF DANIBL OLNEY. Daniel Olney, examined by the District Attorney. Q. What is your business? A, Carpenter. owed from the wounds in the chest, There was & wound on the right shoulter? A. That trated the ploura. What was tho direction? A. It was downward antert- Q. Where was that blow given? A. I should judge tt waa given from bebind, Q. Did you dissect any of these wound-? A. J diesected the wound on the peck, and found the external carotid at toy and the internal partially divided Q. Was the jugular vetn cut at all? “A. No, mir, only tho Q Do you recollect atany time placing a sock on the door of 81 Bond street? A. I altered ono;I did not place it there. Q At whose request was it altered? A. At tho Doo tor’e. ‘Judgo DaviesDid you put thon? A, No; Fonly alter. carotid artery; the directloa of te wound was inwarda, downwards and anteriorly, Q. You spoke of a glancing wound on the face: did yon notice any bo gh meng wound? A, Yes, there is one on the right wrist, which I suppase ls a glancing wound, di viding the integments. @ Any other? A. No, sir. a the clothes been removed from the body when you made tho diesection? A. No, sir. The District Attorney—Send the man who put it op. ‘TRETIMONY OF WILLIAM, IH. BUTLER. Wiltam H. Butler, examined hy tho Distriet Attorney. Q What is your businew ? A. A manufacturer of safes | and locks. | @ Did you in last December piace a lock om iho door of | Dr. Burdell’s house, 31 Bond etroet? A. Yo, sir, | @ Havo youn counterpart of ut lock hore? .\. Wo | bave two samples of it hero. Witness placed ono sample of the lock on tho table o | counsel, and exbibited another to the Jugs. } Q. How do theee locks correspond in reference to sizo avd similarity with the lock on 31 Bond street? A. I | ahould judge it was exactly the samo; the castings are the same, for all the keys of the locks are made to vary. to the Jadge—Tho key to the lock on the house la the samo os this in regard to appearance, diffring only tn size | ‘Witnres explained tho prinetple of tho lock; it iS opened | by a push of tho key from the outeido—not by turning the | key; from the inside it ls opened by palting he kuob, Q. Aro tho wards so arranged that each look requires a diflorent key? A, Yoo, slr; tho castings aro Dab the | key are intended to be all diferent, Crowe exarnined—Q, This article is patented? Itt Q When was it patented? A. In Octobor, 14 Q. By whom? A. By Valentine & Butier. Q@ Who i the inventor? A. Lam the inventor Q There are other patent locks? A. Yor, a good | many. Q. All burglar proof? A. I do not know. | @ The action of the lock doponds on tho Way the bolt is fixed inside? A. You, eir, @. If the plide bo left in'this way (Gxing it) tt ta, not @ jock ot all, ls it? A. No, not a lock. Q. Of course you do not know how the «lide was let that nib A. Ob, no; in that powwow it wat « mere lateh. Q. With thiilide in the centre it a lookY A. Yoo, and roquires a key om the outalde, &. In this other position it is only alateh? A. That i« all Q. And whether ftean be opened frem the outeide de- | u pends on how the elide was placed ? Judge Davies—Ob, that is manifost. ©. What was the matior when you wore called to fx It? A. It was too stiff, and required moch preseure on the key to open the lock; this was a week or ten doye after the lock was put on; the charge for patiing it on was on out bork on the 18th Of December; the order was on the ub. Q. Conld conte be stolen out of the lial! while that look was on the door? The District Attorney objected to the question. © Davies--The withers bas eworn that in a certain poe a wes to eee oe + pen te: ee ee bee A Juror: low The of keys ¢ ta ? A. The ry 2 bo a 4 that a million ould be made and not two of them alike, pt tbe by chance, oeimilar key. TRETIMONY OF JOHN H. TITOMTAON. John H. Thomyeon examined by the District Attorney, @. Did you know Doctor Burdoll? A. I did, sir. Q. Did you know Mre. Cunningham? A. 1 did, alr. Q Atany Ome during last fall did Dr. Bordell and Mr. Conningham call at your house? A. Dv. Burdell called ou me in the early partof October laet, according to his own ) p intent; I bad oalled on buriness on Mra, Cunning lain in the morning. Q bid yousee Mre. Cunningham that morning? A. 1 lid. Q What was the conversation that parsed between you gud Mre. Cunningham? A. I really forget what passed between me and her; Rad noting to do with Dr. Bur dell @ bw ah eg afterncon did Dr. Rurdell come to | *O Dil Mee. “Cunaingham come that afternoon? A. bi two or three minutes after tie doctor came tn yiease narrate to the jory what tok place betwoen the two while you Were progent? A, The dector, when ho | ar0e I= “Counsel (interrapting)—Gay nothing of what occurred Lill ehe came. t tranepired between you oud Dr. Bardell tu afterwards cometo the kniwiedge of Mrs, aning): A. It did, Inige Mavios—Then you state It. ‘Witnesr--The doctor asked mo if f had over fn my visita | in his condect which would be was te be married to Cunningham; 1 told bin that [ proferred to hare potbing. whatever to do with it; at about that time Sunn! sald, “What is Dire, ingham came in; sho the sloctor haa to eay!’ He eait, “I am Mr. Thompeon that you were conimench timo on acharge of breach of promise Ho soba,’ Mr. ba ma do * pies Ou Want money of mo,” “Noy you know fo ae ou promiee| to marry two, and you ghall taidl your ++ "T gnld that 1 de. clined having ang thing ¢6 do with it In any shape oF way ; be oe me to think over my decision, 1 wrote Bim w ind Dire. note that evening that I ghould have nothing w say to ib exoopt com by do 80, Q re. mate thet rewwk did the enfmg hd Md he say? A fat that. How wero they together 'n your house? A. BOY Ky ot A AR ES air. 11 My THe clothes wore wtill on tho ‘boxy as whon he foil? - Yes, sir. @. And did you, ag you made the examination, remove the clothes? A. No, er; we merely looked at the clothes to seo it tho wounds on the clothes corresponded with the wounds on tho body, Crees-examined by counse! for defenea— Q What's yourago? A. Thirty-one. ng have you pract! your profewion? A. Between xeven and elg it years, Q. Do you take any pariloular branch of the profession, or are You in general practica? A. In general praction; perhape surgery more particularly. ‘on haye a partner? A. Yeu, ir. Q Whois he? A. Dr. Jaa. R. Wool Q You are the junior partner? A. Yeo, *r | Q. How long have you practiond in the elty? a. Bo- | twoen seven and eight years. | @ Have you ever before been engaged In a capital caze | which was tho eubject of judicial investigation’ sir, not in a capiial cave (correcting himself); I was in the Poole murder; Twas not prosent at tho jast morter in that caro; my’ partner wre, @ Then thin is the first time yon oonsluet tem in a capital case where partion were accu der? A. Yes, sir, Q. Was this papor that was rend to you drawn up under your direction A. Under minu and imy partner's, Dr. onl, @. 1 ask whether that document war made ont under your direction? A. Tt war made out under tho diroctions of Dr, Wood, myrelf, Dr. Knight and Dr. Uni. Q. Who had the control of the post mertem—whe gare | the directions? A. Tuore were no directions given; wo all | Dr. myvelf more particularly j you, t00, are reeponaible for the paternity of this? | A. Yes. '@ When war the codictl (alluding toa sort of xuppte- | montary certificate to the statement of the doctor's) addot | to the will? A. At the same time. A. Before it was signed or after?—look oat ft, and tell us when this codicil was pat to the will? A. That war pat | there after tt was signed, bat it all signified the sanse thing. Counsel—1 did not ask you what it signifies ; it spanks for iteelf. Are you responsible for what is writen there afer 10 rignatures at woll as before? A. You, alr. Q. The whole of i? A. Yea, sir. Q Did you direct a copy to be furnished to each of the yapero—~i# that part of the post moriem examination? A. I Gid not direet that. @ Then you are not rerponeibie fr that? A. lamuct reapouetete ter that: it wae not given by my directions. @. Wis not part of baad a J mortem? A. No «ir, lam merely ible for w at appertains to the exam!cution of Dr. Borde, |. You mean to be reeporible for all tn the handwrithy ocd eee fan direct to be pat fa? . The rest you did not pat in, nor direct Actdiduon as Q. How did you come to put {n that afer you al! foor hat signed RP? A. Lcannot tell exactly Q Who directed &? A. Lihing my partner, Dr. Weert. an, Did Dr. Ubi and Dr, Knight ateent wit? A. They da bpd mor. wiod of mur: Q grees oe putin before it war signed? A. 1 | cannot tell you now, iLwa: after reflection aud examination. Was it after a rubsequent oxamination’ A. f wason re-examipation. @ Why war {t not signed? A. Tt war all done on the spot; theo papers were drawn ap together; thea there was a re-examination, going over bew ground; tho fgnatares tucan that they’ shall bo responsable fur’ the whol) decutnent, except that which war dut {n about veud. ing it to the papers, of which T kaow nothing. tbe. Uhl and Dr Kught bon know’ tiie and ne. renteu? A. Yeo, sir. Q When war this eubeequent examination? A, About half an hour after the fret Q. What day was the treet examination? A. 7 Wink it was Monday or Tocwday. @ You know Dr. Gilman? A. You, vir. @. You know Dr. Carnochau? A. Yoo, ste; 1 know bim arpechan come into the by sight. @ Did Dr. Gtiman ana ing We examination? A. room when you wore 6 1 They @ Did yo h thet? presence? A. No, air, @. Did you pramination Mast be snvpanded wn- toes they eft ? No, oit;1 did nut, however, nthe room. They are eminent surgeons, aro they wot? A, Dr. man .3 hot aeurgeon. Q. Dr. Carpochan i» an eminent eergeon? A You, ott we did pot wish to be interfered with: we were all there con lucting the exam pation, and did w teh to be Inter. fered with, Q. Who do you mean by all? A. Dr. Kvight, Dr. Ubi apd myself; [ do not think that Dp, Wood was preseu were. ) Who w Dr. Knight? A. i conn tell 2, AOA tbat he hae a good deal of tice. 7 Connery? A. So Ten @ Is ho a son-in-law of deratand. Q And yon and Dr. aight «id not wikh to bo Interforet with by De. Carpochan ant De. Gilman? A. No, Q Did Dr. Whi object? A. No, for there was no oljeo wy why a Aoeo gontlemen & you stop when 8 entered the end ee $n eee w ents Cu eat you ow w act thie o1 ; tion? A. T dit not. . Q. Did you doubt their abi! aay whether it was pro- ly dotie or not? A. T did not consiter it necessary for to interfere. 2G Bil they offer to intestoro or say » went, ama ox 6 Q What, then, wa esamiy ng the winds we could pot hay on white they wore ty on while they wore by? that Dr. Gilman came th aad examined the boly “while wos tioasitring tho woande the bed, and comme: Mest decidedly; white L antoxam: would not have any interfe nothing. examination while Dr, Carnge! cA were in the other room. wound aid they enw dhe ari Q. You say tho first wound that presented itself was | man'y ti re Was both the external aud internal carotid ca? A. ternal? A. the on the right ride, ton, A. No, wou! it was. AL Yea, frre Neaturing it. cut? A. rotits ent, but 1do not knew how tong they profession just Where the — people ont of the profession who know tt better than others, known. fe more fatal than in the esrotid? think the idea of the Fic the ti otrun not. aeetton would hy not think ft neces ~ at the pe from u | fee hy whicl cared it? whether it had two edges or ove. Clothes to sce? A. Wa dtd: ite in that Connrel We want the cloies in court tho trial te over. etween what riba wns this { trom che eiggte? A. Tthink Setweno the fourth ribs Q. Would » wound between the fourth apd fh ribs be necewariiy—@ deep wold depend upon Low anatomy of the buman body; but they very noomrate wounds, That might have beep seortent. & Lask you for your opinion? jon. They inight Rave been acctden: Judge Imyios—He thin fer Of anwident. of @ bindred deathe wounds ads not the atatietic but @ perecn ¢ theve wend, we Thien # person coming from behind and fact might bave done it? A. T cannot exactly , f tbink the first blow was on T think, he wae eltting down; could Dlow pias truck Vy . You copys torch Zia tee chair fecing the windows, @ Was there apy blood upon that chair? A. gore van Diood upon the ehalr froneing the window, by his case (nstrt mamta. ] War thore blood aleo pon the chalr by Whe bos’. Q. What wa the objection to vaving Dr Gilman andDr, Carnechan tn the soom? A. There was no objovtion afer T got through, 4. Yuu Git not moan to have anything seeret? A. Noy the ebjocuion? A, Becanre we were nian ing then, &e., and of course: ath men interfere, and could not go J. Q. Did wy, Gilman vk to measure tho woonds? 4. No, rr. Q. Thea what do you mean hy saying you could not go A. 1 otatea before, oeplicitly, Q Whatdit ho du? A, ice took my place alon cide of m1 bo food over the bexty. Q. Abd that, yon thouglt, wae interfering with you? A, ie awly, at that—that you A. Dr. Knight said @. Dr. Chi agreed with vou? 4. He sald nothing. Q Dr, Wood agreed with you? A. De was not present, Q, What do yon menn © say when yon say yoo all Q. Dr. Knight agreed with agreed? A, Thore was no agroenent at the time. @. Then aohoty but you ohject oe? Q. What did you say to Dy, Gilman? Judge Davioi—The witness las stated that before. tinit repetitions of evidence, an Jor cefence—T have pot understood him to stats he ead. Judge Dav ler —Ask him again. Q. What aid you sey to Dr. dilmam, Sadge Dw Ho enid: T told him that after ¥ got ncaination.)® sat the cxamination masé De room? A Tuid not dud ja the neck. A, TU dither yet Q Where? A. fo the room. Q. In whose presenee? A. Dr. Wood and myretf, ir Q. Noone view? A. @. Dr. Ub! and De. Keigh: dit not ated wi A, They Q They endorwd whet you said? A. They saw the . They bata know'edgo Q. Thoy tid not dieses it? that we dit, Q@ Task you whether Dr, Chl and Dr. dienectot that wound in the meck? A. Dr, Wood mycelf did ly. ~. Aud De, Uhl and Dr, Knight did no@ A. No, Y. They signed Us which you wrote? A. They signed after seelpg Q. To what extent did yon dissect it? A, To the extent of taking out about 234 inches of the carotid artery, abuut hail ap inch of the common carotid, and two inches of the ext nal and internal carvdid artery. ‘a ss polnted euton a drawing anatomy of a J, how far he bad dissectod this wound, Wit Q Whatdo yon mean by tho common caratki? A. Be- fore the bifurcation, Q. And ee tho bifurcation it is the externa) and in- om, wl. where was the cut In the neck; waa it abovo bifurcation or below? A. Above the bifurcation, Q. And cut both? A, Yes. Q. Did you disect it through the neck, 60 as to show it the direction tm whieh tho the dissectio Q. Then how do you knor knife went? A. By probo and by nO wferwards. Q. When was A. In taking out the carutd 3 in iy. dissection we discovered the direction wound wok. Q. To what ex'ent did you dissect tho wound of the peck? A. So as to get out the ‘y, and then it open sufllelently to sno the eitentod wien the woue ea taken. Q. Did you dissect tho right elde? A. I did not. Q. Then bow did you know that the right carothd waa ed? A. Wo ditt not ray 't was, Qt understand you to anzwer the District Attorney thas A. No, sir. Q. The depth of tho wound tn the neck knew m tho probe? A. And dieseetion. hs Q. Then to what extent did yoa diszoct? A. Suffickently ? A. The probe wens to get at the artery. @. But beyond that you did not pases that to the depth of etx t a f udge Dave.r~ Som the outer aurface of the wound ? Q. Could you tell without discection exactly the direction of tho wound ip the peck, and tts extent? A. We ooukd not te exactly. ly: Q. This wound in the neck is necesarily a mortal wound, Leino PA. Tela, And met eause doath very soon? A. Yos, if hemor: not arrested. hen hota Carotid’ are cet, can the hemorrhage be A. dimay by pre. ure on the earotid, and then: @ Theu it lo not & mortal wound? A. [tia a mortal ‘wound. D @. In how soon would ft prove mortal? A. Perhaps in thirty seconds, ¥. Did you ever know a cave where both carotids were rea; Thave feen several suicides with both ou- Y. Then it is mere matter of opinion a+ to how long » party might tive? A, Tt is. Q. Is it generally known by people not tn the medical oud Bex? A. There are 1 think the preciso Jocality is not gonerally | Je there any place in the human eystem where aca As A. In tho heart. ly the heart moro the carotid? = A a fatal than Death t more thetantaneous, but so place is mure Metal than the carotid, Ord) their bk they are" cutting tho carctl? A: They aot wi te iting the carotid. Davies—Where ia tho jugular? A. Directly by of the carotid. Jndyo Daviee—-If one cut the jugular wonhl ho nocesma- Indi rarily eut tho carotid? A. Not necessarily; you are apt to cut the common carotid; pooplo geueraily, in Ung thelr throats, out in front. &. With people not acquainted with anatomy, ia the ordinary way of attempting to commit want: to cut his throat, w cut in front? A. They ie aot suicide, f one it frort. ‘They do not attempt to strike tho carotid? A, I do whether they attempt It; that ls what they gene- Did yon disecet the wound that was eltnated one inch wm the lei nlpple? A. We did pot dinvect it, we mea rally do, A, Wo dit pot consider tt necorsary, u toll without Meseetion the exact nature of mt with which it was committed? A, Leoakd Q. Would dirs 4. Cou ton evade you te dono? A. No, sin; dis 1 coming to a conclision; bak we die maskier ik necrwrary to diewot that ound in the neck? A, No. With a vharp instrument, " A. Teannot say. n arp on both sides or only on one? A. I aannat ys 2 Sharp at the point or got? A. Moet decidedly sharp Dt; We ate ohabled t Jodge of the iuetrament uatore of the wound. di) pot examine to the depth of the wound to end of the wound what the instrament waa an net able to say practely cramipadion of the: Q Yo A. No; Judge Daviee—The make wound, one inch end Aifth a mortal woand? A. 9 Inetrriment goes. and deep enough, will it not reach pointed er s the hearty Je not that the piece to reach the Beart? A. Tt can bo reached from other Witness pointed ont on « drawing, the course of the wa Tuts bound. went into th ventricle ef the beart, 4 ewe we into the way therefore morial? A. Leonridered tt mortal; mr may be inflicted in the beart and # man I've some lengi> of time. @ There wae another wound inthe hear? A, Ye Q. Was that necomarily mortal? won!” be, if It produce: intammation; it this ether wound reached the heart that made i @. Thit wound near the clavicle, was amortal ; artery cone dircetly under it; if be ed probably in timo. A. Poni A was tho by ot Se nb cay were cut it Bo; ri? A. Tt penetrated the “Y. In view of these trey metnnens, this wound in the gare Yd, these wounds In tho beert, and wean! here in the right shoulder, levk you what yoo. spinon as to whether tho perron who ¢ ueve bows was ae- qmainted with the anatomy of the huinan 2 AN would be imporsible to eny whether be was with the cormniy were A. give you my opin dndge Tay But they were wounds woll caleniated to produce mortal reeu'te? A. They were wore very sccw rate wounds. At the same time they might have bees neeidental. Q Did you and Dr. Wood both say that these wounds were sinpwlorly aeourate? A. 1 possibly may have made fur a reraric aks Bn new thas may have Dowd ® mab on wan, wonkl you, ont Witheso—At the eame ¢ Q In yonr JoJgment © acct to enable m , wiaten. ut § Sous say tosh taking all the wounds to Mi he father more accurate Maan Unesy ver of deaths in this way. ‘ay of the amount of force necessary to ‘ouude? Would it tequire @ person ctuih na the Doctor, of greater, 00 indies oth ttrong sh rught wnfiict them, if the aly . 1 net ho, bey hear marke of resistance? A. Yea: 7 fle er etrengtt than he could hawe f he Teer was eurprised or taken up- him cart? A. I think be was spon