The New York Herald Newspaper, January 16, 1856, Page 2

2 ——————— ee enn THE SPEAKERSHIP. Interesting Debat> in the louse of Representatives. Messrs, Richardson, tacks and Fuller Defining their Positions, deo. &e., &o. House of Re; ntatives, asmuvnon, Jam. 12, 1866, . * Sy = * * . Mr. Caurumi—I move, Mr. Clerk, that the resolation eepfining (ebate to ten minu‘es be suspended until next ‘Wetnesoay, unless ctherwire ordered by the House. Mr. Cuxcman, (interruptiog)—I do act wish to inter- yapt the gentleman, or to take the floor from him for an mstant; dut J would esk him to modify his motion by ad- fo it a proviso that there sbait be no voting until time, The geatleman fcor Ohio will se# the reason ot eit © on oe oe who do not wisn to take may to atten! v. the ee their constituents. sini ‘Mr, Camrrxti—The gentlepan from North Carolina (dr. Cingman) can move that as an auendment afvar- wards. My reaton, Mr. Clerk, for mating this wotion is, that on yesterday the House, by res iution, gave notice twat “depemmonee? would be tuken, to pe used on tha bens ing a ‘* bills ot discovery’? in regard to ~‘ plat- forms.” It 1 not possible fur the honora ale gentleman from I lizois, (Mr. Richardsoa,) the honovaole geatlenan from Masrachuretts. (Mr. Banks,) and .he honoraole gen- ‘Weman irom Pennsylvania, (Mr. Fuller,) or any of the e@rber gentiewen why are before the House as candidates for the Speakership, wo deflve their position in ten minutes. | do rot know bow tar rt is p-opesed to carry om this investiga ion—how far back we are to g», or to what extent t ¢ politivel patforms of ubis day or of past ames are to be overhauled tor repairs. 1 have never had ‘@ great deal of respect for platforms—never any, unless my judgment approved twem. ‘Now. sir, | wouid inferm the geo .Jemen who are to be jmterroya’e?, tbat | have here a oceap book, which [ ten- der to them for their use. It contatay, [ believe, all the pori'ical plattorms trat have been adapted since 1852; all thee on the slavery question since 1840; I have here the Piatiorm of the democraic party when’ the ques ton of the annexation of Texas was vef re the country: the eeedrarec N1 ho’son letter platform ia 1848; the olatorm of 1852 «t toth the political parties of this country, de elering ‘hat there should de “no xgrtation of the slavery question n Congress or outci i.” 1 have also sone wore ave ent piatforms: I have tae Buffalu and tae Pitts plati rms, Ihave thore which are still more au- i bave in my bani two pletsorm ie which I have fi uty the Coastitution of the Unive: Sates and ation of Independence. I wouli have bad tne 4a View to refer those who are about 10 testify on the question of human slavery, particularly tow plat form mede io the mountain by tue Savior of maatiad, 0: the givermment of the conduct of men. I allade to Gbrist’s sermon oa the mount; out L understand thit that dock is not t) be hac ia the Congressional lidrary. I believe there was one copy of 1% thorea lng time ago. ‘but i: is suid to have been removed to make room for the works of Kugene >u Iprefes, Mr. Clerk, to stand politically on the two storms 1 have first alluded tthe Consticusion of the fed States and the Deciaration of independence. In wy invercourse with my fellow man [ try, wic vont suc- eens, to achere to the platform tast meationed, [ wish ‘to make th’s suggestion to the Clerk for the oenefit of the tlemen vho are to be intertoga ed in reference to the wc ole coptained in these party plat/orms—particularly to my friend from iiinvis (Mr. Richardson) —tay shenid be a card placed over that e=sir during thi: ‘gation con ainirg tre waolesome warning foand over ‘the doors of raitroad cars, ‘It is cangerous to stand oa the pla form!” (Laughter) I make it pardeutarly for the benefit of ry triend from Dlinois—‘It is dange ous to stand on the pisttorm”’ which the democrate parry made atthe time he was nominated. My personel esteem for thst gentleman indues me to warm bim, aad the engi- mers of his train, of the impendirg danger. They are trying torake great speed upon a “tat bar” track, and there is danger ot snakeheads! It is well known, when testimony was last taken bere by the honorabie gentleman from Keutucky—Mr. Cox—- 28 to how the demo:ru s coostrued the Nebraska bill in ‘the North aud in the Soutn, in reterence to irs effects on alevery. that it was shown mst elaarly that tne Southern democrats mace it mean one thing, acd the Northern democrats ap entizety d fierent »hing. If the gentleman manos upon that platform he wili be in danger of a col- Idsion between there two derseratic trains. one ranaing north and the other south upon the same party track Mr. Clerk, io friendship, I give the gen-leman id his friener, m advance, the bevefit of this warning: i rousto sand on the plotform!? Mr. Rarkspain—I shoulda like to ask the gentlemen frem Obioene question. Mr. CAMPuELt—In my ten minutes I have not time t> bermterregared and to answer. 1 merely wished to cive motice at ihe star: that I sball claim the mgut to put ercss in’errogatories to those witnesses who are to be questioned. Wr BARKsDALE—The gen*leman says there is @ differ- ence in ‘he construction of the Nebraska and Kansas platrorm among the cemocrats North ave South. Now, what I want to know is, whether *her¢is any difference @fopinien in reference toi: in the repu licad Paty” jr. CAMPRELL—I have mace po inquiries of the regu) Bean party cn that poiot. Ido not speak by aatrocl y for that party or any other. [ wil tell the gentiemso what I think of the Nebraska act. I have ceased to seat . Sor or be responsible for any person bat myx-lf. I regard “8 ad exw of the most iniquitous and unj st acts that ever pareee by the vite of Congress —povent for evil, powericss for geod resul’s. ne pF Mr. BARKSDALE—One giving the South the full measure of their righte and nothing more. Does tae gentemsn object to thac? Mr. CAMFHEIL—I speak for myself, and I have alway: sia I am willing togive the South and tacir saves tacir fall rights, under the constitution, nothing \aore nothing more. My ten minutes bave expired. Mr. Richarpson obtained the floor. Wr. OrR—I hope the gentlenan from Miiaois will sns- @unwl wecan have a vote upon the motion of the gevtiemen from Ohio (Mr. Campbell) to suspead the ten meinute rule. 7. JonES, of Tenn.—I see no necesstty for rescinding ‘he ten minuto rule at all, for any particniae length of time. I would suggest the propriety of suspending it 80 far as 10 + liow th: se gentlemen for whom the Hous has bern vorng, whatever time they may wish to answer wuch questions 9s may be propounsted +> thom, or east to answer the interrogato: eddressed to them oy my colleague (Mr. Zollikoffer). That can be done with- out rexcincing the rule generally. The Howse has v sted ‘tha: it is right that (nose gentlemen should ans ver thew dmterregatories and I take it for granted the douse will give them sufficient time to reply. I hope theretore, ‘tbat this rule will be suspended so far as the gentlemen ‘who have been voted for for toeaker are concernel. fa fanewering the questi ns that may be put io them; but mo furtber. Mr. Mmisox—I hope the House will not suspend the rele limiting debate at all; and I am stil more unwilling thet the rule shoulc be «u<pended, for the reason axsignes the gentleman from Ohto (Mr. Camopocl!). (A yoiee— v's right !’’) Sir, the Heuse yesteroay ‘adopted a resolution, general, ao-tract in its terms, having no sve- dai apprica ion to apy particular can idates for office, dat simply deciaring that, ia the jacg nent of the mem- bers of this House, candidates for politieni offices ougut we make known their opimons to ‘hose whe are askea to vote for them. It has to special bg ong to thos gentlemen who have been voted for here as candidates for the post of Speaner. 1 beg leave to say, with ail due deference to other gen- Wenen, that I thirk the House would placo itself in a somewhat undignified porition by now suspending the aie for the exp: ese purpose ot Invitiog th ee gentiemen for whom they have deeu voting tor the past six weeks to *heir views. ir. CLINGMAN= I would suggest to the gentlemsn that ‘he move to lay the motion of the gentlemaa irom Ohio on the table. ‘Mr. MitsoN—I hall presenily do #0. Mr. Clerk, this wesola'ion, a8 I have said, is general in ite veems. [did ‘pot vote for it as a special invivation to these geatlem-n ‘who are candicates for the potion cf Speater, tuaddress ‘the Houre in explanacion of their opiaioa, or to place ‘them under spy sort of cbligation ts do vo. I am not wilhng that my vote, standing a4 it doce in favor of that veeolution, shall be ro construed. If those ‘ei desire to express their views, I have Bo odjection; and Ibave no doubt that the house will ac- quiesee in their wishes, and afford them an opportunity of eelrvering their sentiments. But | think tt is hardly consistent with the dignity of the Houre to invite those gen:leman t) the -tand, and to suspen d this rule, under the sea chat they desire wo be heard, when no sueh desire has been in’ ima'ed oy any of them. Ido not think the House may properly place them in that position. Mf other gentiemen designed to give the resolution pemed yesterday this special application, i corwin'y iid pot. If the candidates vesire to speak, the Huse will, | ‘am sure, readily afford them the opportunity. ques tions are pat to them, they can answer, or not, as whey way think proper; but [ co not think th’s Hoase #aoult reroive ltvelf into a debating society, for ‘he discussion of a] porsible ent jects that can be brought before ic. Where is this cebate to stop? What question may not be put to these gentlemen? Tf any gentleman should ask my friend from Illinois, (Mr. Richird-on.) whesher he wenld be willing to recognise the Walser nent in Mlearagua, it would be said not to be altogether imper‘i- Speaker of the Honse is the foarth officer of the country, anc in cortain com ungencies, would ve ca led on to simipister the excentive duties of the gyveroment. Then ths question, though not pertinen: to the duties o the Speaker's cbuir, would be yertinent w the dutie which he might contingently 9+ calied on to exerate 1. the event of vacancies in the offices of President, Vice President, and President of the Senate, Thoro ore, to ‘tent the sense of the House ¢n the question, | move that the resolution submitted by the gentleman trom xi0, PMr. Camptell.) be laid on the tabie 3 Mr. Rictarvsox~I ask the gentleman from Viretnin fand the gentleman from Ohio to withtraw their several proposition. If it showld happen to be mecessary, in @ der that gentiew+n may an-wer the qaestions which are yunded to them, it will thon be time enonga to ask the Hose ‘or tbe extension, 0 far as I am coneorn- ©), I now repeat what I said yesterday—tnat | am ready to reply to the questins which have toon prooounded hy the gentleman from] Tennessee, (Mr. Zollikoffer.) It the tions above mentioned are withdrawn, | tiak Snat’T shell be able to conclude what | wieh to ray wishin the titne allotted caro = rule, Mr. Bixcria® obtained the floor. The Oren —Deoate A pe order; there is @ propo- sition to lay on the tab ing. Mr. Guarens, ‘of Ohio] have no objection to the with Grewal of my mutio T made the motion with the view to accommodate gentlemen. Thave no idea, however, that my friend can travel over ali the ground embraced By those questions in en minutes. SevEREL NYAOOS—d4f uot, we can then extend the time. Mr, Cawrnein—I withdraw my motion. Mr. Brvotiaw—Bolore the gentleman from Illinois, (Mr. Riebardron,) or any other gentleman before the House ne candidate for Spleker whall proceed to anewer any in- werregatorios, I dotire to touder some questions, to whigh J would be giad to h ve answer from all camMidates. My object in presenting the ' sterrugatories is not that of eaptious objection to the quaktiestions or sentimea's which may be entertaine’ by the eandida‘es now betore us for our snifrage. have strong desire to aseertain clearly and ¢.-tiNctl¥ * hat vense there gentlemen to the grect principl® 4 of tae Kansas Nevracka act; what sense they st ach '. the words on which the o! have been rurg fOr the Inet two years from one end af land to auetber— che words ‘a uatter sovereign'y,” ani to kvow a ase they attach to thot otrer wort which we nape ese se often repeated in this buli—the word patiopalty .” Thave some fsith in pationality myself. Ihave 90s reverence for vationslity—that nationality wnich St? mgs out of that unity of goverameat which ¢m- stitwes us one people: ard it is with a view to ascertain elstinetly and clensly the tense which geatiomen wire o this great term nationatity, that I vow present thei fu- ter ries. 1 trus: that we sball have a direct, clear, ‘and unequivecal answer to them all. The interregatories whick I would like to propound are —_ 1 Do you hold that the Constitution of the United States extends to, and is of full force withim the several ‘Territories there: f? 2. Do you bi ld that the people of any of said Territo- ries have ibe right to make any law withia sail f ries, whereby apy porson thercin shall pe deprived ‘of life or tiber'y,”” except as punishmect for crime on due conviction? Do you bold that the people of the Territory of Kansos have the right, under the constitution, to prob’ dit slavery within said Terrivory at all times, both befure and afrer their organizetion inty # state? 4. Lo you hold that the people of said Ter- itory, under the Censtirutien,* bave the power and ibe right to legalize slavery whhia said Terri ory by Isgisiative enactment, snd the further power and right the:eby to protect und maintain siavery theret 1, by mskingit a pen+l offence for any person within said Territory to speak or wrive agaist such systeu, or t aid or assist ony wan held 9s 8 slave within raid Terri 10 yfto escane the cfrom, with the inteut to secure the Persena liberty of such tlaver 5. To you bold that, unéer the constitution, het to verviee or lndor wivbin said Territory, escscing therefiom mtoany State of this Union, can be reclsimed uncer tbe Fugitive Sisve law? or is sueh person af hin the extracition c! e of tbe second section of artiow four of the constivution? 6. Under the constitution of the United States, can the people of any of its Territerses rightfnily or legally establish any but a republican form of government thers in? and do you hold wat to be & republican government Which converts the major y of is sunjec’s foto chat tels, and subjects them to the absolute despctism of tne minority’ These are the interregatones which I desire to lay be- fere the H vse, apd to which IT wish and trus’ that | way have ca ¢gorical answers from eve-y cantidzte for the Speakersbip. 1 witl not furth=r detain the Hous Mr. Boycr—I eill ateo resd to the H some tater- rogatories, which I worlé be pla’ to have the geut onan from Mussachure ts (Mr. Hanks) answer. Chey are there:—Are zen in favor of restoring the Missouri re- stmetier, or do you go for the entire prehrbition of sl«ve- Ty ip ali the Territor’es of the Unitec Are you ia favor of abolishing s'avery in ‘he aot tie United States, aua the United S'ates forts, dock yards, &c.? Do you believe in treequality of the white ana biack races in the United States: and do you eth t» mote that po itical equal y by legislation? Ave you in favor of the entire exclasion of ad opted citizens and Ro- war Catholics frem offi «’ Do you favor the sa ae m wi fication cf the tariff new that you cid at the last sexsivn of Congress? Ur. sicusEpeos obtained ‘he floor, Mr, Humpurey Marsnuc—The gentleman will excuse me amenept, There must be several more oatchas 0° these interrogatones, ard I think thatit woald bs b for gentlemen to file them witt the Clesk, and to the e»ndicares to reply to them ia « publizatioa at an: time; for instance, at turir own convenienes. (Laughter. Mr. RicHarvson— Am [ entitled t» ‘he floor? The Cterk— Thegentleman from Illinois was recognized by the clerk. Mr. Ricuarncos—Mr. Clerk, gentlemen have chosen, by written interrogatories, vo inyuire into the politica opin- ons of gentiemen who bave been v tod for upon this tor in relation to questicus past, p.esent and future. I know net, and care not, whether the orj-ct is discussion hore or ciscurrion somewhere else. I gold them to the issu-s presented to me, are 1 shall emdeavor to snswer their questions as fuily, freely and frankly as may be possible. 1 powsend to the clerk’s deak the questions which have been propeunded to me, and I ask that the first of then may be read. The Cienx read the first question, as follows:— Am I right in supposins that the gonvieman from Iinols (Mr. Richardson ) regards the Kansas Nebraska pil! as proimotive of the formation of tree States iu the Territories of Kaz sas aad Ne- braska: Mr. Ricuarnsox—in reply to the first question of the gentierran trom Tenn esses (Mr Zo likol —-I hare tony 1 Voted tor the bills organi+ing the Terri* ries of Nebrsssa and Kansas becavse Tihovght them just to all, ana I de- fended that vote before my cor stituents upon tuat ground Limtences then, und 1 intend now, tat the peopie why go there, or who bave gone there, aba decide tue ques- thon of slavery for themselve:, 2. far as T cond, ace mit them as States, with o- without elavery. as the pe x ple boule deeice, In commmea w orthera and Soath- erp gentlemen, | have said that, ‘ini would never go there; but! have nev: hese, urged thet as 2 reason why I yorel for Tvo'ed for that bill beeanse it wa jast, right and and vated nothing more w Oefad my-elf. Erepea an argrment I have made over und over a . coustiments anc i: is this: if s maj tity of thy people of Kepsas or Nebraska are in favor ot l-very, they will person, breve & Majority are cpposed to it, then they Wl not bave This as the prac’ ics ry theory ad- vocated by tie fricnds of the Nebraska ani’ Kaava’ pill, I give my senc.i n to this pricciole in cupportng the Territerial bile of 1850 end have oniformiy sap- ported the sau princijls. sives, whene ‘esomtel for wy setion. apd shel! ccmtiong to d) $2 that may arise. Tt Is a prinetple ], goverpwen att uct cominunity shall decide rr tuemvelves the rature otd character of the iestitations under whiet they shall tive by thr incipe | am pregared to live and die. i “herefore yoted for the Neoraka and Konsas till neither as a pro slavery nor exti-slavery re. but as c measnie of equal right and jastie 0 the peoole of ull seeti common evontry. Wil the Clerk now read the next questi ny The CLK read the seeane ques‘1ou, a¢ follows:— 7)) Am I right in supposing that he aovocates the coustitutton ality of the Wilmer proviss: that in 1890 he opposes its appiles- wed irom Mexico only upon the npeceasart, inesmauch as the Mexioan rriv ries al eady ahobshed slavery, «hich suftictert for ree soll men’ and that ho oom it to ibe posilen, that if Territoria bi ls (silent pon the subject of savers, and icavirg the Mexican la xa to operate) were Cofealed be would vote for bills with (he Wi'mot sox—The next qnestion requires a more In 1803 we aequickd Lo isinga: it was In 18°0 we civiced, by Ine o 36 deg slave territory. £0 min., that te-ritory; north of the hoe was to be free. In 1845 we annexed Texas; that was slo territory; we divided Wat by extending te line of ceg. 30 min. throng that—porth to be fee. m 1818 we sepriced territory from Mexico. ‘That was free. I vo ed repeat edly to extend the same lize west to the Pacific Oowvan, I voted for that lice with a few re mesentatives from tae . and the who e body of Southern Representatives When I gave those votes I'did not believe then, nor dol Delieve now, tust I violared the convtitutiva United States. If you bave power, under the tion, to exclude slav-ry from half ot a tezritor: you nave power to @xclude from sli, thongb suca an ex ercise would be ubjust and wrong. I buve never. thero- fore, vored to exercise that power, excep! npon tne yrin. cipve of compromise. In this conoec ion I de ire to read from # speech of mine, delivered in this hall April 3, 1856, snd make a word or two of ecmmment upon i— There ts, Lregret to say. a willingness uoon the part of the detmrernis of the North to sec Wile prov to Lassed, that Gener ‘Taylor may be compelled to show to the wor d.und “the rest of mankis 0.’ who was cheated in the last Presieatial eleevon— whether {t was his friends Nort or South. ‘They kno ¥ that a fraud was practised upon the one or the other. They kno + that in the Nonth General Toyler was repreveoted as ail the! SDy one in tavor of siavery extension could desire—that he was bound to Southern instivatiovs oy two bundred bonds. at the North, it was sald that he was for confining slaverg to te pre sent mits One or the other wus chent cut Taubmit to my Northern friends if the peace and harmony of twenty millions of people, and the perpetuity of our tree fosttiudous, js not of more imporiance than the exonsure of this bad fai upon the part of an administration that, tf let aloae will fill by its own weight! ‘The puble voice every wuere inicates Its certa'n and irevitsble overthrow. Tn times past our policy sooner or inter has prevailed, and we sbould | stand Lrms, however dark ihe hour [i by former success. We should sot be driven from our postions because our opponents heve ty come to ihezn for safety, T might ask them it they are to be driven trem their firm nnd stern oppositi-n te a United Ptates bank because those who one dhowzht that certain rnin would lay waste the and unleseruch no institn'ion was in- cergred. have changed the'r opinions, and sand with us in op- position? Are tney #illing to pe driven in oppositinn to be in- a \t tren -ury, because those who mee opposed cow «up port it? Are you fo bedriven from all the onst, now trinmpa- antly vincicated, becanse opposition bas cewed? We shod stand firm in the euppor@et sight, truth, the constition of one country, no matte, whe shall come to their support, or desert; 4 by them to the vast, and if thay fad let us oeciah Lh them. We should never survive tle existence of this guvern- mert. ‘There ts one thing that I wich in thia emnection, Mr Cheir- . (0 any to the gentlemen from the South, and the Norincen it the bul tor Jerritors! govenments, alent doo the fubject of sinvery, shall be defeated, then far for bilie with the Wilmot provi-o, in order to gi orien: wy wil feel constrained val Taylor shall approve the proviso. then tc will passed, and yi is for thera to de ermine what shail or shal? not be Gone, and Jet the responcibiity rest wih Wem. I take this oc: asicnto say, that tne sentiment nat q noted, uttered in a moment of excitement, [aon reflecewn re pudiate ae unjust and imp oper. | thank the gent men that he bas afforded me the opportanity @ give this public expression of my disapproval of tuat «tate- ment, Luritormly voted aginst placing the Wumot provito in «ny Territorial Lui. [yoed again tr, be- cause I betieved it to be unjust to the people of a poction of ‘his Union. The Ulerk low Am [right in supp tien of the Upited § Hin, the Terrvorier ot the Ur seu uired from M n read the third interrogatory, as fol- y ie that the eomstitn. fasand Ne breska, to roake the tereiiors iree. becan under "range at the time of fe acquisition ; as and Nebraska qiea sla DIU, whieh repeats that resiri he errioriow Bor ext bese Territories wth protecunz slavery Praska bill promoies ‘be and Bebras Mr Racharreos opintor nist tions The Constitution does nol, in my opision, carry the institutions of aay of the Statay ints the Tersitories. but it affords the to the inatitunone of one State nth The etti- ten of Virginiy is as much en‘itle’, in the eonmnon tors. tory, to the protection of hie property, under the ¢ snsti- taticn, as the eftizen of Wtusis, but both are rependent apon the legila ton of the Territorial government for jaws to protect their property, of whatever kind {+ may be, Thuwit will be seen, that though there may ba apon n@ protection there ‘this point a difference theereticslly—invoiving ‘(ueetions for judicial decision-—yet thore is none, practically, among the friends of nom-interventi m by Coagres#: as the grac- tea’ remult ia wo the Ceeision of the questions in the Banda of thone who are mos’ deeply interested in ita solu. { tion name'y, the people of the Territory, who have made | +t thei¢ Lome, and whose ipterests are the most deeply imvolved in the character of the institutions under which they are to live. If this great principle of non-in‘erven- tion and seltgoverament {s wrong, then, indeed, the American revclution war fought in vain, and it is time Instita. ions of the several equal States, forming the (rica under resperonsiy and ha; wm to be so great. is Po ha at on hy imdalgence of the House to state the reasons why I pro) those questions to the gent eman frem Iitincis. Mr. Cuincmax—I submit this point of order to the gen- tleman. | would lke to have those questions propounced to the different candicates in order, one at a tine, before we are troubled or embarrassed with any other questions. hope al! the condica’es will answer this series first and before going to new matter. Mr. ZoLLixcrvE—Inasmuch as it seems to give satisfac tion to the gentlemen ot the House that these questions sheuid be pa: to each of the gentlemen who have been vored for for Speaker, I certainly have no objection to that courre insemuch as the gentleman from Ilinois— Mr. Kicbarcson—to whom I have propounded the ques- tions, bas alreedy answered. ‘Mr. Krst—I want io appeal to the gentleman’s sense ©! fairness, to know whewer he wauls to comaume the time of the House ip raising new questions, and thereby prevent the ovber canvicate- fom an werlag? Mr. Zc1uikcrviR—! had wi-bei to put these interroga- tories to the gentleman from |.jin is Wr. Kicnardsoa— ond then if gen lem n desire it, they may put "he same questiens tovtoer mewrers wno bave been voted for a~ Sceater. 1 see voimprovriety im that. It seems to be right and juet that I sbould be permitted now to state the reascn why I put these foverrogacores. Mr. GaxcwaN (iutersupting)—I make this point o* orcer, arc the Clerk must deceive it, thet the gentleman rom Yennersee (Mr. Zottweffer) is not en‘ited co occupy be floor ot this ‘ime We ere now acting vnver a rea. Juticn of the House requiring extoidates tor oftles—mean- ing, of course, as we all uncerstang, for the Speakership —'0 answer in errcgator'es propounded by the gentl+- rap fiem Seppessie aod vow answered dy tbe geutie- man trem Minois (Mr. Richardson). 1 meke tte poir+ that is is rot in order for the Haman to go iato de- tae here until we sboll have got hrough wiih this pro. ceeding it shied we are engaged; which is, that a!l the cancicutes tor Speasertbip shall answer these interroga- tones. 1 wich to have thix point decided Mr, Warkrury, of sie —T snguest that every candidate shouid snewer ad} the questions propounded before they are submitted to snother cancidate. Toe gentleman from iv (Mr. Ricbarosen) baa answered on!y » portion ot the ivuerr gato ies pus to bim; end f therefore augces that exch cand dato bali anpwer a) the interrogatories Vr. ZCrIKOFFER— ADs S entitled, bir. Clork, to was ths singie remara? Mr. CuuxGMax—I object, sir, to all debate until the Clerk sbha!l have Cecided the point of order rais-d. Mr. Ricnarpsox, (te Mr, 4 sshburn, of Maine)—I woald stute to the sentieman from Maine that] have answered all the qnesticns 8: bwritred to me. My. WassrtRy—I understand sbat the gentleman fron Ternessee (Mr. /ollik Mer) dire-tly submitted this ques tion to the gentleman from Mlinois——(Loud crive of “Oréer! ercer!”” Mr. MeMeriey--T submit that the gen Waipe (Mr. Wachdurn) is net in order, Tbe (1pRk—~The Cer must state that the gentieman from Matne js not in oder, Mr. GrErNwoop—I suggest that the Iterrogatories whieh bove just been au-wereo py the geutleman foo lilineis (Mr. Richarésm) be read to the genvernan from Penn y\vavia, (Mr. Fuller,) ond answered by him before we proceed to any otber business. A member sugge-ted the ware cf Mr. Banks, Mr. GREEN Woor—' Jee thera first be read, and sub- mitted tothe g ntleman fem Massachusetts (Mr. Ban's ) Mr, ZoLuKcrrER—I ask, Mr.)lerk, whether or not 1am entitled to the floor? The Crerk—Toe Clerk would state to the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Zoilic.ffer) and to the House, taas he conceives the gentiemsn from Tepnes-ee to bein order, as he is prep'si: g to speak to what is substantial y a new prove site; ana the fore, ip the opicion of the Clerk, he has a yight to tee floor, But the Clerk wonld reuind the genth mon thet his time has very nearly expired. Mr. Zouskorren—Uhen I trust that gentiemen will not interrupt me. I am silling to content myseli with merely sending to the Clerk’s desk, and having read the record of the gentieman from Itinois (Mr. Richardsem), on wien the questi ps1 propcunced tu him were prod: cared, A rvrre—Have it printed in your speach, Mr. Craicr—I onject to apy printed speech. Mr. CUNGYAN—[ renew wy objection. I am man feom perfect'y wi ling that the genthman ‘rom feur easee may make hia commentaries on the speech of the gentleman from Mi- | mis, afver al the o-her candidates have answered the interrogatories but rot till then. moe Cuerk—The Clo k wil submit the question to the vse, Tanbmit to the gen‘leman fiom Tennessee, jor the present making any commentary on the enwers of ire gentleman frum [linots, until the other candidates ‘or the Speakectbip have answeced them ale, Mir Wacnrery, of Ma‘ne-I wish to say thiv——. [Loud cries of © Onde Mr. 7evukesrEk —1 9m 8 very deferential man, Mr. Cesk; Lem dispwed*o de courteous, tair, aac entirely clry tu the Hovae. Iam, therefure, siting to tho present what I wished to say. 3 gen: emen 1c oYhatis right] 1 would sate, for toe further Ei of the House, that I was merely chs'rovs of shows g That | had pu. no idle or iapertunent mor paver} us "x, (iterrupting) —I desire the Clerk to eeci?e the vot +f orcer spbmitted by me. : the Genk.—The Cleck will submit the quostioa to the louse. Mr. Crxcwax.—Then T object to the gentleman fom Texpes. +e proceacing unii! tie pent of order ehali have been decided oH +o Mr, Cingman)—The Clerk has Fccioed the pofnt r drder, sir, Mr. Cunewax.—No. sh, be has ne The Gynx.—The geutien an from North Carolina, (Mf EMD) raises s row print ot order, which the mits to the Howe. Tbe ques.‘on ix whevher the gen- teman trom Tensessee is in order in adéressing the House? Mr. ZorrTkoFFER, (interrupting) self by merely sta log the ex Appendix tothe egressional ¢lete trom whib. Sil onjec’, Mr. Clerk, to the geatleman from Tennesse prceeesing in this way unt) the poins ui order shw}} have bern decd Mr. ZorUKePFER —T rep at that ‘The Cierk.—[he gentleman from Tennessee will come toorder, (Lond cvies of * Order!” Order!’ and much contusion threughout the Hall Mr. Chinexas.—I sieh to have this question decided. be Clerk submits the question to the enileman {rom Ternessee is ia order? en. —The Clk thinks that the ayes have it. Severn MEW ERS. —1 op tbat question, Mr. Wacntrnye, of [inois—Will the Cle: plorse state the question sha: the House is to decige? There is 80 mveh cor forion in the ball tuat we over here canzot un- derstand the qnestion. The Cirmk—the question is, whether the gentleman from Tenzerree (M-, /cllikoffer) is in order. Mr. Sreraexs—I desire, betore { vote to know what the question is before the Honse, on which the gentie- loon frcm Tensessee claims the floor ? ‘The Cumk—The propositions put by the gentleman frem Tennes+ee to the gentleman from Mtinois ace mow be'cre the Hause. Mr. trrpurms—I do not understand that there is any question pending hetore the House. Mr. Ciinevan—Certaicly mos, Mr. Stxvemas—As T understand the question, the . tUrmsn from Tennessee, availing bimeelf yesterday of the courtesey of the Houe, made a ten minute » and propoun ed certain que-tions to she geutioman from Ilti- noi. ‘The gentleman from Minois, tix morning, by une- nimons courtesy of be House, mice responses to those questions. 1 du vot undersand that there is now any per ding question before the House, on which apy gentle- muy evn bave the floor. A MEWsER— There ir 2 question of order. Mr. Hvavnrky Marsnasi-~1 understood that in the answers to the interrogatories made by the gent eman from Iilinefs, be bad mace some zemarks which sal ed out ibe gentieman ficm Tennessee in a pervonal explaas- tin of bis courre— Mr. McMcriy (interrupting)—The gentleman from ‘Tennersee dio not put it cn ‘hat groand, Severa) Mewrurs—You he aid. Mr. Marsuai1—I think be did put it en taat ground. Mr. Guncwan (interrup'ing)—As { understand that the gentieman ‘rem Tennessee is willing to postpone his qves‘ion until ai) the candiqates have answe the ia- Teregau ri apswereo by the gentleman from I.inis, 1 withdraw wy point ot order. That is a'i that { want. Tke Cienx—'he gentieman from North Carolina (Mr. Clirgman) withdraws hie point of order; bat the Cierk wuld sevind the geutleman feom Tennessee, nnd the Houre, that another peivt of order pas beer ratewo— Mr. ZouCorveR (in erruptivg)——Well, «ir, whe inter- rupted by be gerilewan fem horth Ceroiaa, (Mr. Chiezmen,) Thad proposed w rake no maning commen ta yon tbe arswers of the gentleman ftem illinois, I ask no advontage. Iam wiling t0 postp ne my cor m-rianes til another ime, Bat, Icesi-e merely to that the interroga*o ies which I propounded to ‘he gentleman from Misuis were not idle oF imvertinent, bat phased upon the record. | pow merely want to clus that recerd, an? Twas io the ast of coing fo ghen the gentleman from North Cur liva ‘aterropted me, It is to be found in the Appendix to the Congressionad Glu’. for 1854. (Lane cries of itend it? Bir, CLincatan—T ovject to the gentleman making any ei ation Mr. Com of Alabama—Oh, let it go ont. of iy (Larebter.) Mr. Riciaworon (to Mr. speech that } read fr Mr ZonuioorreR—Now, T am willing that the came uestions ae enewoved by the gentlenin from lliauis thsi be propounced to the other gentlemen who are candilates for the Speakershtp. The CueRk (to Mr, Stephens)—Tes the gentleman from Georgia insist on Lis point of orcery Mr. srermase—I do. ‘The CienK—1be gentleman ferm Georgia (Mr. 2 eohens) raises the question that there is no question betore the House. It woule be well, ihere‘ore, bef re the prooued ings go any further. trat the series of que tions should be formally ordered to be put to the other gem lemen Mr. frevunys-{ forist upon my poict of ovcer. Cat the rell, and it gentlemen wish to sperk, they ean do so by the c vuriesy of the House, Mr. Bovce~I move that we now hear the other candi cates. “te Mirrs0s—It necenesry to bring the matter ragalur- ly belory tos Houre, } will meve to amead the ‘ea minace rule by strikiegout ten and sabwita’ing twelve ming es, jhe CLERK—Such a motion would bring the mater proyerly betore the Honee Mr, Jones, of Tenn. —I do not understond the resclation adopted yesterday by this Houre as being an order that each coudidaie for the speakership rhallanewer the inter- regatorier. It the other candiates of the respective parties are in the House, and desire or ace will answer, I preanme the ofe «ill hear them. Bi they are unwil!'n¢ to ene vee, tia not within the pro- Vinee of the House wo en). on bem for a response, Tuas derstand that the two other candids'¢s for Speaker—the Fnow Nothing or American candidew and the republi- can condicate—were both farntéhed with eopina of the intervopatories pronounded hy the gentlemaa from Ter nessoe (Mr, Zollisoffer) to the gentiemsu from liltavie, I shall content: my er and page of the Who's airaid NM )—That is the sam (Mr. Richardson.) Now, if they are re dy to respond, I presume the tine wiihear them; tee they prefer aot to answer, there t no power here t cverce them, Mr. Barkepste—I nove now that the questio: unded py tbe gen'lman from South (arol a, 1yc@,) some time since, be produced, and iha’ the vieman frem Massachuse:ts (Mr. Banks) be requested to answer. Several Mrwnems—Ob, No! and cries of ‘Order !”” Mr, Banxevate— Well, I move that he be inv ted to an- swer. (Cries of dient, and confusion.) Mr, WaseacR, of Maine—I would sugge-t that none of ‘the other answer. It is not to call upon them to apswer until the gentleman from Iliuois answerec a!) on ich have been proponnded tohim. The grnileman from Uhio (Mr. Bingham) ba propounded several questions which he has not answered. (Cries of * Order !”) Mr. Lercuxr—1 am very glad the gentleman from Maine ba» become in favor of candisates answering questivos. | theogh). yesteraay, be was opposed to ail unsweriag. (Cres of © Order !” snd confus'on.) Mr. BsRKrDsLe—~I] am eniitied to the floor. The (1FRK—t is imp ssible to proceed, unless gent'e- men take their sents and Mr. MowULi Order 1”? ) The CLerk—The Cierk again appeals to gentlemen to take the seats apd pre-e ve order. He cid recognize the gertleman rem Virgi: as MeMuihn), sapp tng +he gentleman from Mivissippl hed taken bis seat, Mr, BakksDs1LE—No, tic; | oid not yie.d the flor, Mr. SeMirLIy.—I understood the gentlewan fem Mis- sissippi to take bis seat. and 1 rose and acdressed th- Chrk, ord was recognized by him, [insist that I aun en- titlee 10 the floor. Mr. Banks rove. d&inr—I would suggest to the gentleman from Virplvia, and the gentleman frem Mississigpi thet noth of nem ‘yield the floor, and ajlow the geotleman from Masencbureits (Mr Lanks) to speak. [understand he ts fady to 1e-pend to the interrogstories put oy the gen- tenan frem ‘lennessee, (Mr. Zohic ffer.) Mr. MeMttuN—I thwk I am clearly entitled to the tlocr, bus 1 will gtve way in favor of the gectleman from Marsychusetts. if be desires to address the House, Mr. Hanks —I co not wish to take the floor from th gentleman from Virginia, or any one, fur that pur- pose, Mr, MeMvcrux.—I understand that the same questions that have been an wered by the gentleman from Il inois have ben furnirhea to the gentiemap from Ma-saetite- -vits apd also to the gentleman from Pennsylvania; avd that there genvlemen aie ready to answei. 1 yield the Aoor or shat purpose. Bie Banvt—Sr, Cierk, I voted for the penta e sented py the gen'leman from Lens estee (Mr. Zolli ter) yes ereay with pl-asure, It embocies a p iaciple which T'Lipb sevid. As understood by me, wben reported at the CGerh’s desk, it was nothing tore nor less toan sin- ply this: that spy gentleman who votes tor » cvndidat- for spy ficerugit to know be opiniovs of that candi dure, 1 reccgiire the right of every geoU+man in ‘his re who hes been voting tor Speaher during this prv- d or niest. %0 ascertain the opinions of any man tr wim becasts bis vote. Sir, 1 should claim it asm, rigtt to know the opinions of my candidace to sac av ex eptasebould be sutistactory to myself at lesst. Bat, air. as w member of tne House, Ihave ct.er sighs. | ofler my-reif ax a candidate for no office; I solci: ne Tep’s suffrage; avd} am pot, theretore, called ugoa as » eardicat to so ve such difficulties as gentlemen suppoit we other persens mey fi'd in tre existing coudi‘ion ot vadds affairs. Thore who have honered me by ther contvence ard yotes are themselves respon-inl tor the course they bave chosov, and, 1 doud net, they are able to mee tbat responsidility. li 38 bot fur me to provice for their defence. 1 cac ov Jy say, 88 O bello saia of his wile, they ‘had eyes, an. chese me.” 1 have convie'fons—convictious of du'y— ecnsictions of principle—upon the great matters’ in which the country is in:eresied; and ax a menber of the House, representing a districtin the Commonwealih ot Mas-act usetta, { have no heriia/ion in responding to uny of ihe irqui:ies propounded by the honorable gentleman trom Tennessee to tbe honcrable gentleman fiom [llinois. Losk the Cle k to reed ‘be first question. dhe CLERK then read as follows: — 4mI Tight in smpporirg thet the gentleman from Titivols ro. garde the Karsas Nebraska bill as promotive of the formation ol hee Sates in the Territories of Kanses and Neb:a+kat Mr. Bayke—It will be understoot, of course that the rhiase ology of this inquiry applies rather t> th» gentJe- wan frem Mlinoix——Mr, kichardson—than to myvelf, 1 avewer, distivetiy, that I do not regard the Kansas Ne. pasha bill 98 promo ive of the foraa:ion of freo Siates, ivasn uch 65 it repeals the prohibition cf the institutt ‘Trlavery over the section of count:y to which that sta- tute apphes. I think it dees not tend to the formation of free > ates. That is my answer. ‘Tre Clerk read ag follows: Ain I right ia supposirg he advocates the constitutionality of the Wrirot proviso; thst in 1850 he opposed ita application t the Jerrit ries a:quied from Mexico, onty upon the groun! thay ji vas unpecessury. tpasmuch as the Mexican local iaes ‘dure Jerritories a:ready abolished slavery - which ought to be #1 flcleat for ail free soil mev; spd that be commitied him sell io ‘he posttion thatif ‘Territorial bila (s'ent upon the «ab Jet of swvery ard leaving the Mexican law to operate) were He tentees he “would vote for bills with the Wilmot provieo in her? Mr. Bayke—I could give @ general answer in the afi - mauve to that inierrepat ry. I believe in the constitu= ne ity of tbotact wh ch is known and generally uuder “€ »s the Wilmot proviso, I betleve thas it is witomn be jover cf Congress to probibit the institution ot slavery im & Terrivory belonging to tbe United Sta e Wieser Tweuld advoca e the passage of such an act in ge tog Temitory where it was clearly unnecossary, whe c by Joep] pre-exitrng laws, it baa been provibiied or, in « ther wores, whether I woule advocate a doubly in- ‘tition 1 buve en y to say that ifa doubt existed as wo ¢ usion by Vaid municipal law, T should sust.in an hich embodied the prohibi ion known as the Wilmot «fleryon proviso, In regasd to the measures of 1860 leon on y soy, that deing called upon bere or el-ewhere. Tsheuts bave veted for the prohitiion in the Territorias coverer by Those measuren, if I bad eorert.iaed a doabr as to the exelusion of slavery by existing municipal iaw. bat i my answer, The Cierk reed as follows:— Am 1 right in supposing that his ape that the enna‘itn ov jon of tbe United Sates does pot carcy spvery to, aad protect itiv, the ferritortes of the United Stat Mr. Bayes Ido not believe that the constitution o the United States carries the institu ion ofsavery to the teriterier cf the United States, My understanding is bostd on the declaration of Mr, Webster, that even the ernsiltution of the United States iteelf does not go to the ferritories until it ia earcied there by an act 6t Con- gers. Standiog on the principie of tho Fngliea law ecverping the sume interests, I do not betieve tbat the connituticn of the United states carries to any Territory ot the United Staves any right to hold slaves there. Ip order, sir, that my snswer sbould be full and satisfac feetery, Vought, perhaps, to put the negative of the pro- pesiticn of the dstinguished gen'leman who leada the aeverznent party on this floor, ard in this crisis, 1 recogpike the rig) ts mx, to protection of property on tLe past of the South, as well ay on the part of t « North, in the Territeaies of the United Siete; and wu. a tpeck of property I mean thatgjwnich is con sided property by univers! law; Ido not mean thet s}ich ix property cpsy because it ia held as suet vucer the laws ¢f a particular State, avd which loses it» cherse'er of property so soon as itextencs beyond the ‘imaits Or ‘bat state, except under certain reservations covered by the Constivution of the United States. Wh-n speek of property, Ico uot refer to that species. I de erive that wh: is recognized ae property by univer- val laws of men, aré not that ehich is prope:ty ooly when itis made tuch by local laws of limfted sec ions ot the country. I have no disposition t> disturo f's ex- is pee—no purpose to ciminieh or increzse it there. 1 wis acknowledge all its rights there, accepting for thit purpere the charis established by Southern statescuen, ti dery that it Is such property as, independent « eal law cr Congressional enactment, is protected by th» C. psittution ia the Territories of the United Sistes. | ‘ave wothirg further to ray on this very nice and deti- ex © qvestion. I believe that the Constitution of the Uniteo sta’es was lutenaed to do justice to ail sections of whe country —to the South extalty with the North. I um ‘or thet to-day; and I adopt the language of my fricu , (itr. Iebardson ) wbo bas always treated me with ais- ‘ingui bed courtesy in ali dissussions on this subjec*, ‘ont we should do justice to the South as well 2, to the North. In no speech or declaration that hus falen frcm my lip, so far as I ean remember it, have I ever (xpressed a diffrent sentiment; but, sir, lea: nat rbut out from my memory the great fact that the Conati- tation of the United Staves is an instrumonc of rreedom, cor \emplated ag such by its fremers, ani interpreted as + nel by all wen of the South anc the North, un:il w thio the last few years. Itisacbart of freedom, ¢ tablished tw seenre the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, giving liberty to the States to co whut they sboll think to te proper within their own locali ies, under such circumstances as to them +hall seem to be right ani jeet, but clammrg no right and conce:ing no right to thew to carry their own peculiar institutions beyond the imnretions conferred by the doctrine ot the sovereignty sf tates. No, rir! The Constiration of the Unites totes tn aninstiument not of immediate, but of ul- tipa'e and upiverral freedom. Jt was wo conte. pined by the great men who framed is ; scrid bas sc segaréed it. The national symbot, that makes the land over wi in whatever quarter of tte globe, so long as iv covers an American citizen, Amerienn territory, wm the tenner of ulimare and universal Hoecty— its white and red folos symbols of Revolutionary trials, of the ere te ut victory and the blood of sactifice, May its srarry union forever stend as lustrous and imperish & ble se the goleen fires of God's Grinamon’! (Great ap- ylavee.) ‘That is my unsver to that quescion. ‘The Cink read as tollows:— ‘That in the territory acquired from Mexico and Franee (io cluding Kansas ard’ Nebrasks) the Missouri restriction was Leces: to make the terrtory (ree oeean-e slavery exis'ad there under Franre at the time of the acquisition, mut that the Keneas and Nebraska bil, which repea s that restriction, but netther ‘egisintes slavery thto thove Territories nor excinden it therefrom, 1 bis opinion. Je:vee those Territories without ei ber Jocal or constitutional law protecting siavary; and that fhereiore the Kansas aud Nebraxta biil promoted ike rorma- tion of lave States in Kanses and Nebrastar Mr. Boske—I did not see that question, Mr. Clerk, until ft wne bronght to me by a page from the de k. Itt, but arepeticion of the first interrogatory, with the neditdon of aetetement of fact. Im regard w that statement, [ will sey that it ie doubted wherher the inetitution of ery existed in thore Territories at the tine vey were ocovied, Without gorng into the questlun wherber France, by the decree ot 1794, anolished the igstitution of slevery thors, L will say that, if te worw necessary that the Congress of the Uni ed states should fnteréict that institution in those Terizo.ies in order to inake them frea, I think that Congress was rigs1 in doing it, Jf it were necessary, in order to give to the South the right to cac:s the inm+titntion of sluyory thee, that tre interdict of 1820 ehorld We removed, T thirk that the Congress of 1860 was wrong in making that repeal; and 1 eanoct, sit, bot aay with the light that hes come to me vpen this question, that the mterdict of 1820 foroade mod abolirhed the dnetitution of elovery, if it existed there; that the repead ef that pro'ibition in 1853, inasmuch as ft allowed elavery to go there under certain pos-thie elr- cum+fance was in act not promotive of the formation of free Stntes, That, cir, ie my answer to that question. Mr, Barkeparr—I wish to put some interrogatories to the genteman from Messmchuseite, Mr, ORR—I appeal to the gentieman fom Miacissippt to withbeld bis questions for the prevent, until the geatia- man from Fencryivania has soswered thy other ques tlove, and then he ea pound them Mr, Benkspala—W the understanding that these NEW YORK HERALD, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 16, 1856, quest ‘ms are to be asked ar soon as the gentlemen ‘from epErylvenia bas answered the interrogatories ‘4f the eptensn nee fer ren the fl i to iy genie men trom Fenpeyvania, buy je not shal claim te sgain ee peda aa he LBs Mir, Futter, of Penneylvanis—Mr, ¥ ted fort resoly tion + ffe.ed by ‘he gentleman trom Te brie Zo) ike fier) yesterday, because I cor principle ¢mocdied ix that resolution, Hon fei: t's duty, ip Jeatiee So maeens #hem | had teen acting. to “49 opinions I enter- fai: ana the sours of action Tho paicea soe tain questions of pul sy: I demure to eed | believe is known to the m: doctig—if uct ad thore who have b me witl, their confidence, tnat I have heen reudy atany and 9'{ times to withdrat name from this protracted sgnvase. I have felt uawil- i nd, or to appear to, g:and, in the way ot ony fair zaticn of this boy, In answer to the s ic ia- tories bere prevénived, I say that I do mot regard the Kupras and Nebraiza bil!’ as promotive of the forma- tien of tree States, and I will further say, sir, that I a mt derieve that it is premotive of the formation of sl ve States. (Gries of ‘Good!’’) The second iater- regatery relates to the con+titutiorality of the Wi'mor proviso. Iwas nota member of tne Congress of 1860, ano have never been called upon to nffirm or deny the cemy irvii yall y of the Wilmot groviso. I neve never assume? the ponition, that “if territorial bills (silent upon the subject of slavery, and leaving the Mexican luvs to operate) were defeated. he (1) weuld vote for a bi) with the Wilmot proviso in it.” That question re- later to the l+girlaiive action of the distinguished g-ntle- wap from Jnpois, (Mr. Richardson.) My political ex- invence eo mmenced since that flood (Laughter.) I wis not » wen ber cf tnat Congress, and haying never taken ary pudie pesiion vpon that subject heretofore, Iam wig ‘bw! fropepers and candor, to co so now; and I de ro sith great deference and respe it for thove distin yui-ted men who, in times past, have entertaiasd and Bpiereo Cif-revt opi tos Pubic bistory informs us ‘hate avery exis'ed before the constitution, and. ia my .udgment, Bow exists independent of the constitution, Wien the peole of the conf-de-ated States met by ber representatives in convention, to forin that censtity 1 p, rlavery exis’ed in all but one of the States ertbe contereracy, The people, through their represen- sanve-, buving on existing and saeomerges rigot to hed wovex, ecpceced this—the right to prohibit import- ation ater the year 1868. They made no cession 49 far us regarded the existence of domestic slavery. They claiux+o— one it was gronted—the rigat of reclamation in ecfecase, They climed—and it was granted—tae right. ot representation as an element of political pover. 4vc } bold, in the absence of express authority, that Con- gresa tur po vepetitutional right ‘og legisiate upon the sulject of s avery, (Appiause.) Ihold that the Lerri- tories are the common property ot all the States and that ‘Le peorle of all the staves. bavea common right to 16r upon and copy those Territories, and they ace +teo'ed in “bat occupation by the flug of our common wry; that Congers has oo con tituticnal power tither io Jegielu’e rinvery into, or exctude it from, a Cerci- try. Neither has che fe:ri oriatL. gistature, in may judg. arb! any right to legislate upon that subject, exer pt so tar anit may be neces-ary to protect the citizens of the Ter- ritery iu the ep jevment of their propery, and that ia pur- svete of its ciganic law, as estanitshed by Congressious! épisistin. When the cilizers of tne Te:ritory shal ap- «ly tur aemi sioy into the Union, they may determive for then selves the character of their iastisutions (by theic stow consiitution); and it is their right then to declare wbether they @ill woerate slavery or not, and thus fair- y deciding for themreives, should be adwitted into the Unien as Mater, without reference to the subject of avery. The covstirution was formed py the pevpie of vhe Siates for purposes of mutual acvantage and protec- ‘ica, ‘The sta‘es are rovereignties, Nmited oniy so far ax they have sur enderec their powers to the general geverzment. The general government, thus created avd imived, acts vith certsin posi ive, defined and clearly acerteined powers its legislation and administration ‘Lould be contreiied by the constitution; and it cannot jusily empi y ite powers thus celegated to impair or de- J wny ¢xiting or vested rights belonging to the peo- ple of any if be States, * * * * Mr. Bark: ps1e—The interrogatories, Mr. Clerk, which T propore to rut to the gentleman trom Mas-achusetts— Mr. Banks—] intend for a'l the gentlemen who are can- dieares tor the Speakership; and, in order that the Houre and the gentlemen to whom they are propounded wey understand them, I wl now read thea :— aay ou pow a member of the American or Know Nothing pa A1é youn favor of abolishing slavery in the District of Co- ‘usbia. the United sta es‘oris, dock yards, &c.? Bo you bei the equality of the white and black races in Ye United States; and do sou wish to promove that equalltz legislation: "arevouin fovor ofthe entire exclusion of adopted citizens ard Rimsn Cathovics from office? Do von favor the same modification—and this question I in- tend particulary for the gentleman from Mascacseta Mr. Jamas) of the tarsi vow which you aid at the last seston o! grees Mr. Byxciaa—t insist that, before avy more interroga- chen ad put, these whish I have propounded be an- srend, ‘The C1uRx—Does the gentleman from Mississippi with- drow his inveryegatories for the present? REEDALE—No. sir, Yr. hicHaKveon tock the floor. ‘Ihe Cienk— Does the gentiemsn from Mississippi yield 0 the gentieman from illinois ? « PakspALE—I do, sit. Mr. Kicnsn1e0x—I wish to enswer the questions pro- prunérad Mr. kh yya017, (interrupting) —Iask whether itis in order to sutene or two mre interrogatories in aadicion .o ‘hore prepeunced by the gentsemun from Misei-sipiy I shoulu sike to know of each candida‘e for the Speaker: hip, ncla‘ing my friend trom New Jersey, (Mr. Pen- ning'on,) whe ber he believe ina future atats or noty (lavgeter.) Ana then, provided he answers the ques- ‘ous ftrwatively, I derive t know «bother ho be feves it wii tea tree or slave state? (Roare of laughter.) Mr. BaRK#rs1k—I woula soy to the geatleman from Miescut, (Mr. Kenvett,) that if be intendajby thot inter- regutory to cat any reflection upon me, either direcdy wr incizectly- (excitement, aod cries of “No! no !”)—1 bolt) back with all the seorp, derision and contemp: shih its inrolence and impudence so justly mecit. of Oréer 1? “Order 1’) 111, of Ohie—I call the’ gentleman to order. Mr. Baxrspaiy—Sir, he Fas no right to eall me to or er and [ demano by what right he cally me to order ’ (Cortipucd eries of “order?” and much confusion in the boll.) Mr. Caxprsiz—I sgain call the gentleman (Mr. Barks- cale) to order. Mr. Grow—I move that the House do now adjourn. Mr. Kexnets—I have only to remark, Mr. Uierk, thet 1) e tenor of my questions must have been misunderstood by the House, 1f it thinks they were devigned to reflect on the gectleman from Missiesppi, ae Buksdaie ) J} ey were intenced geod naturecly. And J have to ray f rtber. that no gen Jeman in this House or out of it rerd ¢xze t to intimicate me, or to insul: me in this ug>ner, J have mace all the apolovy, Mr. Clerk, that [ imterd tomeke. That apcl gy was made to the House. (cid not intend ny remarks to be understood in any but a jrcular woy; but I consider, at the same time, that the remerks made by the gentleman (Mr. Barkadaie) about Americanism fully justity me in putting such a query. (Cries ot Good? + Call the roll 1’) ‘The Cixrx—Does the gentleman from Pennsylvania Qir. Grew) in-ist on his moticn to af journ? Mr. CRow-—I de, sur. Mr. LercuxR—The gentleman from I'linois (Mr. Richard- son) is en the fioor, Let us hear what he bas to say. ‘Tre Ciezk put the question on adjournment, and the Moticn was not agreed to. Mr. Ricuarpecs--I have received 8 copy of the ing 2i- ries prop unced by the gentleman from Oni) (Mr. Biog- ham): 1 bave looked over the-c interrogatories, and it veems to me that I bave apswered them substavtia!y, with the exception of the frat and fifth. I re'er tht gD'lkeman, therefore to the remarks submitted by mo ‘his wornitg, tor my answer to his questions, with the xeeptkn ot those 1 have indicated. The first inquiry pes Io you bold that the Constitution ot the United States extends to, avd is of ful’ force, within the several ‘erritories thereat ? ip eply to this interregatory, I have to say ‘hat Ido recognize the Constitution of the United States as extend "ag ¢ ver the Territeries, so far #8 it is applicable to their cor dition That is my answer to the first. The fifth in in the following language :— Po you hold fear arte ¥ the constitution, a held serviee or Jabor sald To ror, cxcnping | refrom into jate ip thia Ucion, oan be reclaimed under the fugitive law or is such person within the extradition clause second section of the fourth article of the constitution In repiy to thin I have to say that. the exprees terms ot the bili orgunising the Territories of Kansas aro Nebraska, and ovher Territories organized subse- qvent to the passage of the togitivo slave law, that law goes into cp ration in thore Territories, Now, sir, ae w the otker eth 8 oriea pri pdea by the gevtle- wan from Mirsiseippl (Mr. Barkadele), I have to say that 1 peicrg to no Know Nothirg or Americon organization. Ibelong to ro recre’ political orgavization. I am op- pored to the abolition of slavery in the District of Co. tombio. 1 sm oppored to interference with it in the docz- yards, or apy place rise, oy the Corgrovs of the Uni'ud Mates, 1 bebeve that tbe Almighty mado the negro in- vwricr to the whire man. 1+ not believe you can placo them upep on equality, ‘unless you bring down tte white man to bin level. ane ] am oppored to that. Ie reply ty the fa-etievs inquiries «2 my f ievd from Missouri (Mr. Kennett), J have to esy I am sometimes :fraid that, in that juture ria ein which J Lelieve, myrelt and sumo of my arrociater here wil notte tree (Langhter.) 1. KENSAIT—I! 8m very glad, Mr. Clerk, that the gon- Hlemen trem Minos (#r. d4on) is getting a little anxious abet! bie condition, as woll as thar of the other nen bers ot the House. I think ne has great causs. (Larghrer.) Wr. Richarpsox—I am very anxious, not only in ref revee to my wseelf, but in relation w my fclends, Bat, sir. 1 om mformed that I omitied one of the qnestion, propeonded by the gentleman from Mlssis-ipol, (Mc. Borkeduie ) in relation to Ustholies and acopted citizeus, Sir, Ido not know, nor core, what @ taan’« religious opt tions may te. I would as soon supyort a Catholic ‘or office ax 8 man Drofessing any otter religion, provided he was quolified and his political sentiments corresponded with my own, I think, sr, in reference to thie govern- ment of ours, that our only safety, or, at Teast, that our ventest rofety, upen this subject of religion, 15 in carry- fee out they Hey never to oatry our reilgion into poll. tier, ané never carry ont oittics to church. | Thay are distinot nnd sepyrate—noalterebly so. A Cathovic iy a1 much emitted to protection fn thia country ng thore of any other religion. Lhave no prejudice ogainst the Cx- holies, nor have I egainst foreigoecs. I voted. the Inst tune I voted in my own State, for an adopted citizen; aad 1 expect to vote for them in future as often as they are presented, provided they aro qualified, Mr, Brvera—T beg leave to ark the gen‘loman from I nois—-(er'es of “ Orcer!’ and confusion in the hall.) the sentiiman from Iilirois has stated that be answered my quesiiens this morning. wilh the exception of the first ard Gfth, (Celes of Don't yiela!”” “Order!” nod contusion.) Taek bim whetber, in his remarks this morning he responded tw the second interrogatory, whch Je thMsi—" Do you hold that the people of any of the euld Territories have the right to make apy Jnw in eng of tuid Territories, whereby any person in hall be deprived of life or linerty. except ns junubirent for erime upon dae conviction!” Has the gentleman from Itinolé responded to that, and if not, will be reaperd to ity Mr. Ricianveox—In reply to the gentleman from Ohio, Ihave to sey that | substantially vosponced to bie iater regatory thes worning, ry slave ot § es Mr. Briguay—In what way? Mr. Kicwarpsox—I said, in my remarks this morning that, in my opinion, the people of » Territory have tue right either to establish or prohivit African siavery. I thirk that is an ans» er to the geatleman’s ques'ion. ur. Butane Undies. territorial laws, does the gentle- man mean Mr. RicHaRpsox—I do not wish to sing'e out # particu- lar instance. Mr. Brcraw—Mr, Clerk, this int ‘was not in- cluded in thee answered by the gentleman from this morning at all. He has not answered it atall. I in- sist upon on anewer. (Cal's to order, and contain | Mr. Conn, of Georgi-—I object to those interrogatories. ‘The an+were of the gentleman fiom Illinois and of other potines have been given, and have gone te the coun- r 0 ry. The cu: try will determine whether the questions ‘the gentleman from Ohio (Mr, ) have been answered. 1t is not for avy gentleman nore to rise and yopound verbal questions. I objected to it whem it came rom tbe gen'eman from Mississippi (Mr, Barksdale), and I object now when it comes fom another quarter, { insist upon pursuing the regular course laid out this morning, and whic we have pee I repeat, the an- Bwers of the gentleman from Mlinois have gone to the , snd the country will judge of thetr pertinence. Mr. (HAM—If the querticn has not been suswered, how will the country J .dget) ‘Mr. Corn—The questi ns, with the answers, have gone tothe country, and it will »e for the country to deter- wine whetbe: hac espe pertinent or not. Mr. :tantox—'hat certainly ia sutficient. I think that cee to be satistectory to my coliesgue, (Mc, Bingham.) r. BINGHAM—! submited, in writing, @ series or ques- tions, rome of which bave been answered aud some haye not. The augatl nto - 1 Fame, alludsd has i biea aprwerec, 11 wap respec*fu! ro} ted, snd'l ints J bayn iberahs Soineistoe eataswer ss” mr. Conr—t call to order; the gentleman from Uhio ont cf creer. Mr. Bincua¥—The resolution implied that or it implied nothing. It ipren ed a fair, direct and uneyuivocal answer to all questi 1s arising under the constitution, i Mr. Copp--I call to or.er. Tinsist that it spall be en- forced, The C1ERK—No order waa maie by the Houre in the matter; but it was agreed, by common consent, that the questions shoul ne put tothe gentleaen who are bi tore the House as candidates for the Speakership, in suc- cersio, Criesot ‘Os)) tbe roll,’ “Hear Banks.’’ Mr. HUMPHREY MansnaLi—I suppose that the other gen- tlemen will answer, of course. Mr. BixcHaM—-I desire to call the attention of the House and the count: y to the fact — mr, Hovetox.—I call ‘be geatleman to order. Mr. BrnGuam.—! iuris on wy right to be heard for ten minutes, ‘the Cizrx.—The zer tleman from Obio will rec \.st that upiverrai onjestion was mase to the gentleman from Mirsixsappt (wr. Bark-dale) proce-ding wen he propoavd fouing tbe gentleman from Massachasews, and io ths way interleriug with what seemed to ba the course that it wan rhe gen+ral wi-h should be pursued, Mr. PinGham — Lies the Clerk say that 1 am out of or- der in putting inqni ies to the gentlemantrum Hiiaota? The Gaerk. —tbe Jerk makes go decision, Ifthe House consent, the genileman will proceed with his remarks. ‘The Crk mere y supgests, ar it seems to be the pleasure of the House, rbat tre questions had better go aronad, Mr. BincuaM —Vevy well, then; I yield the floor. (Cries of Tout’ right!” Now let the questions go around!) Mr. Banks —I repeat, Mr. Clerk, the principle on whieh I avawer ixterrova'ories from avy quacter, and it iy, tbat 1 +peak as 9 member ot thi- Huuse for one of the districts «f tre Stare of Massachusetts. In rd to my position as connected witn the parties of the county, 1 wish to make my statement in = own way, ioasmuch as it is a matter which particu arly coucerns myself. I will state the facts, ard the gentleman from Mississippi. (Mr. Barks- Cale) and ovber gevtiewen, wili draw Leis own infer- ences, What they way be, it is not for me to say. When T was elected to this hu use as @ member from tse State of Mu-rachusetts, | was elected on the nomination of the regular demecratic party atdof the American party of that ci-trict, The American party was very largely in tre msjority., lav wed my sentiments freely and fully on the questions which are involved in the issue pre- sevted by that party, before there was any especiai cause for me to 10 £0, and betore it hac attracted the atrention of the country; and as an answer to the fourth interro- gatory put to me by the gentleman from Misstssiopl, af- ver it had been eubs.# ted to the gentleman from Ibinois, I have only te say that, in the speech whicn I delivered to this buoy during the last Cangress, I expressed freely ano fully all my oj niens on the subject. The record is there suo toitl re‘er the gentle ven for information. Let the record speak. I have adoptei the maxim of Junius, that it is an uvfortupate waste of time for s man to spend any .onsiderable po ‘ticn of his li e in commenta- ties on bis own works. (Laughter.) I come now t> speak t» che interrogstory in reterence to the equality of the white un) blucs race: Mr. BaFFepalb— Toke the r ext one before that. ‘Mr. Panké~ Viewse allow me to speak tothe interroga- tories iv my own order. 1 bave to sey, in this matter, that I accept the dectriue of the Lechnasion of Independence, that all men are created ea). In reea:dto the superioricy of races, 1 om impresseo wit the conviction thatit is to be deter- mined only by capacity tor encuranes. So fur as I have studird the subject, itseems to me to be ths universal law that tre weaker 1s always absorbed and Pran ooes in the stcnger race. Whether the black race of this conti- ent, or any otber partof the world, is equal to tha white race, can «nly be determined by the absorption 1 Cirappearan.e of one or the other; and T provose to , wait until the re pective races can be properly sudjecved to this philosorhicai test befure i give w decistve annwer. «Resrs ot ‘gugh er.) As the other que='ien is the key to tbe politics of the county, I will pow give it my attention :— Are you in favor of restoring the Missourl restriction or do 30 go for the enure prohibition of slavery in all tne Territories Uf the United states? ‘The terricorial ques {cn of this day refers to the Terri- tories ot Kanses ond Nebraska. 1 eave the territories which are to come bereaf er to *he hervatter; but I suy, at the same 1me, that I um in favor of the prohibition of slavery ip Kapras ard Nebraska. Then, 10 regard to the ‘ret clause of tbe merregatory are you in fsvor of re- storing the nissouri restsiction’—I nave to say thay I desire that ‘he prokibition wade by Soutbern men and Southern States—tre irbibitien of the instivution of siavery in tne Territories of Kanras and Nebraska enall be wade good to the peopie of the country. I care not in what manner ie shailte done--whether there be a restoration of the tecbnical anc arbitrary line, or by scme other methods, or apyliances, or principles,’ there shail be msde guod to the people of the United States the probibivion for which the Scuthern States contract: ¢ and received a considera- tien. Lam for the substential restoration of the prohi- bition as it has existed rince 18.0. Here are several questions in regard to slavery io the Diatrict of Colum- bie ard the m. dification of the tariff laws as they now exist. 1 stund beve ready acd desirous and determined to co-operate with the men of the Ucited -tates who are tor the substautis] resroration of the proribition of the imrtitution of slavery in the Territories of Kan aa and Nebraska I'am ready to ast with men of any party and of apy views for the a:complishment of this great end. I sball ask no man with)w om I shall co-operate in this matter what be thinks of the abolition of slave-y in the Listrict of Co'usbia, or what he thinks, or shall do cn tbe tariff question. in my view of the politics of this couniry these questions are not in issue; and, sir, much 66 I propose .o #ek no opiricas of those with whom I co-operate fuocn such questions apart from the great fe litical tssues of this coming year, no, sir, I say, that I sve no Cpinicns myself to prenuunce. That, Mr, Clerk, is my anewer. Mr. Fciuar, of Pepnsylvania—Mr. Clerk, I shall an- swtr the questions specifically and directly, reserving to wyself the privilege of more ‘uli explanstion heroa‘ter. ou go e ene - Hes of the Unied Bites? very > Sul Whe errs lam opp sed to any legislation upon these subjects, for reasons alresdy given. Are you in iavor » abolishing sla in the Districi of Co- lumbia and the United states port, yards, £0. 1 am not, sir. Do you believe in tha equality of the white and black races in the United Btates, and de you wish to promote that equality dy .onislat! I ¢onot, sir, Tackvowledge « decided preference for white peosle. (Laugh’er.) Are you in favor ot the entire exclusion of adopted ard homan Oath hiss frow oftiet — (Cries of “Yes or no!” and Janghter.) Mr. Clerk, i think with General Washington—end he isa very high autrority—that it does not vomport with the policy of this courtiy to appeiut foreigners to office to the exoiusion of rative-born citizens. (Loud applaure In the Sek Ree iwien to say tbat! prosoribe no mon’ becuuse of his relizion—I denounce no man because bis poution. Lace rd to all the largwet linerty of opi- Lion end of exoressicn—of ¢ mscience und of worship. I care net, sir, What cree: a man may profess; | care not to whet denrmina ion he may belong; te he Mohamme- dap, Jew or Gentile, 1 concede to nim the right to wor- ship sccording to he dietates of his own j nat. 1 invsde vo mav’s altar, and would not turd vty mon’s vested rights, Wharver we have deen, whatever we are, und whatever wo may be, 1ests between us aud Heaven. 1 slow no mor to te wy mediator; snd, judging no man, will by no man be judgeo, Wibregusd to thoocf foreign dirth, 1 do Lov aerire te exclude vhem, I say to them, * Come, enter apen the pubiic lands; cocupy the public tercivor ad Up for scurselves licwes, scquire property, aud texch your ebiloren 10 love the consti ution and laws which protect them,” hut |} do thar im all matters of legis- lation, and inal: n attecs of sdministration, Americans should govern Ameriea. (Voud applause in ‘he galieriss, ) Lo you favor the same modifiention of the tariil'now that you did # the last resel n or Congress? Iwas not a memter cf the last Congr would now ask vpon the subject of the let alone.”? (Loud cries of ‘all the roil!’’) ‘The Houre then proceeded to vote the one hundred and tighth time fer fpenker, with the following result:— Whe le number of vores cast, 207; necessary to a choice, 104; ot whict-— Natheniel P. Banks received. Wilinm A. Richardson, Henry M. Fuil 2. xan er . John Williams Gilebriat Porter, Benry Bencett. fo there was vo choice, ‘The following is the vote in detwil:— FOR Mit, BANKS, Aliison, Ball, Barbour, Henry Bennett,. + Butlingion Burtiogune, denen i Cawpvsll, inppell, Obsitse, Ulawaon,. Coltex, Coming, Cra lin, Cumback fell, siwothy Davisy Lose, Leen, De Wat Mtok, Mekeon. Dodd, Durfee, Kdla, Em- rie, Flvgler, Gmr'ow rs, Gledings, Cilbet, Granger, drow, hobert i. Wall Hos lan, Hollow xy, Thoma R. Horton, Valen- (ne Me Morien. Nownid, Hnzhaton, Kelsoy, King, Knapp. Mesera. Aibripht pee cies B ight, Knowlton, Krox.”Leiter, Mice. ma'teion, MeOarty, ‘achem, Morgon, Morriil, Nichols, Nor‘on, Andrew Vliver, Perker, Penree, Petes, Penvington, Petit, Pike, Purviance biichie, Retins, Kobieon, Sabin, Sage, Papo, M m . Stanton, Siranaban, ‘Tappan, Thor it Tyein. Wade, Wall Ww CSdwrieder Vash? unre bitiim bs Washiarne, tirael Wash burn, Watton, We eb, Weed, Woodruff, and Woodworth, TOK Mie RICHARDSON Mesere. Aiken, Alien, Reromy, barksdale, Rall, Wondley 8. Herrett, Roceek, Bowie Boyce, Branch, Burnett. Cadwalader, Cara hers, ie, Clineman, Howell Cobty, Willtamson, R. W. vevb, Davidson, Denver, Dowdel, Famemason,