The New York Herald Newspaper, February 10, 1855, Page 2

NEW YORK HERALD, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1855. move this kind. Ihad | ofthe war in which we are ? erament themselves, (Hear.) This at least gives great | new one. Such a ; would bave been, 10 the mupdinat ne tireasstitas | Eng cy cae nA | Be eee tes | geen Mere ieee ae mites | eee Fe eek eee Pealite, will sow abandon his friemvould 4 ‘tbat might be and | $ ele ros ethos general z8 ‘correspondence ‘usual. practice folio, - Former! 3 panes: < ‘much Sgparvments,Uleat, bene LOST watrenta the Goptnion wheh | wet (Hear, ) sca i epe! I went on to some of errors that had, Ca. ag Ry ae of rena ot te s FO Prete of Mie war tn wil Carer ee fet made any dines propel pone Cabinet ia true, im its recent done = A 4 ma Cee Mattussions; but 8 the tar plowecu ict ad bees r- unwieldy instrument for s entitled : ote 5 having given make in his capa- to the noble lard tenders his re- he is unable to learned member be found for that duty. (Lear.) tensions, medy In answer to this I received a etter from Lon in last August he the inquisit . nd - ads f= a) jh policy a panne than by be nk to ato the Aberdeen, ay ale to the House. It is date: | mow seriow Koved ee et ciicee Berean teen ed oe a a spponsibe io bo revert: ‘era Oak pceieey, xeduoes tha guetat! | aduurable ebulty cad, are Ne p d al ‘Sf opivion ubat the object of the war must not bere- | dition of our army before melancholy, con- | to te one man r. oarestion exhibited by Lord Clarendon in ‘tricted beforehand, and that a dour should be left open | of “Hear, hear.’") ‘The accounts (Loud criee | tater nae consideration was di x 4 ‘ of “Hear, hear. ¢ accou ~ tome cont ‘ex every combination which the fortune of war may | quarter every week are not only buat WoL ram Chat | is ool wee, Zou aay thee bring about ingthe present state of Europe. We have no t-rending (hear, hear); and 1 am sure no one wi Saw pan tuneAee, ont oe Tanned reesey fot tne imtention to examine the new situation resulting to us | oppore for a moment any measure that would be lik ok hes ition of individuals. Un das Frenchme: this change in the Eoglish minis- | not only tocure, but todo anything to mitigate those and I fallz agree in thinkin, wry. It is ble that the ministerial question will | evils, (Coeers) Sir, I must say that there is some- ould be the inst man to with ay ; lates But [ must observe tht a peace such as she thinks safe for obtained she will act with the allies, the aid of 500,000 men. We bave, in rel, aytinent the smallest healt be openly debated in Parliament, and then the | thing, with all the official knowledge to which I have hd of our ally, the ‘of ‘the | roble lord’s colleagus are entitled, no: only to feel to France and Europe of the retreat of Lord | accers, that to meis inex icable in the state of our army. h office as te | French (cheer of who a faith, ‘besdion | at ibe loss of 40 great, so eminent, and 40 indent a Aberdeen, and the triumph of Lord John Russell’s and | (Cheers.) If I had been told as a reason against the ex- a all other actions and all assurances, I | member of the government and of this Fae, but they Lerd Palmerston’s policy, will appear in broad daylight. | pls to the Crim: a last year aay yous troops would saw and beard such fs du: are entitled also to say that that Joss oce to them Tass teria os 200, sav ren & meure | por et Now, Pt ort—w a me, when we contemplation f AR IN PARLIAMENT. ¢ expedition, we hardly hoped to possess—and that at | *ithovgh another person mic! THE W Rr LL that even milla dite head be in wantof food, | cred cn the fave constit a . of clothes, and of shelter to such a degree that the: yb); bly, Negotiations for Pence—The Resignation of | Would perish at the rate of from 90 to loge i | te Pound stil more imeten Lord John Russell—Minisicrial Crisis, have cor sidered such a prediction as utter! ring my in bis capital, that I cannot have the ti a8 the beliof that another mht absence of ny | but viee muet he the first object; but, it Brie teeta proved defect or alleged peeks say and sucha picture of theexpedition as- enti fancifi in of see no sufient | andone from which we should not shrink:—either the | which the government had a it to comp! but map xecortations ropzeace, | teat (ie uid meas oh re Gerais rt voess | Sapa fete et vicePer'as | Ee lace Zatht tl feetee C a the no ° wi ju dae rote ane on ta question to the noble | (Hear, heer.) Tt wae not therefore by denylog the exist: detieving that any change like that propeed | MP she halety of Europe; or, if he should fail in making | shall abstain from any further remarks with regard. to lerd the President of the Council—viz., whether he has any | ence of the evils that! could hope to induce this House to plrenaly that ts would be an act of watatine a4 infuaiee those congenetens) will by gg $ 4 worse tad Pave Arcuig ee Lect ebibe oni ete this qari to the treaty of the 2 of December, 1854, and tion not to give a faint “No” to the proposal—not to | *.covermment, Kcum help expressing this conviction on the present occasion, | ing towards him. (esr, from Lord John Ruseell.) 1 i dosument communicated to the Russi express in vague and equivocal language a wish that Lord Aberdeen spoke to me afterwards on this subgct, because I think that, whoever may be Minister, he entirely agree with the opinion expressed by the noble ly b wermnen? containing the interpretation put by the | t¢ motion should not be carried, or to use any evas‘on cal Poiech poreramaut on tas Four ints, not | With respect to the letter of its terms with a view to de- for negotiation, but for acceptance ? feat the motion. (Hear, hear.) It was my duty—a ort J. Bonito]. cammotad, present say whethor it | duty A aaa Itrust, 1 haye ever performei when in that will be possible to lay on the table any of the correspon- | Situation—i end fe ly recommend that change to the Queen, and aI whe correspondence generally, I may say that it will not | that committee. (Hear, hear.) Then, sir, J had tocon- | spould not press the matter further, I sh hh i vi sider whether I might not giv. the second reason for i iS sn ideies Csqee Te orefepien Cees refusing the committee t» which I have alluded, viz: | Oy), hppa Rear tl sion from quotin, i opin‘on of other high authorities, with whom i for yeas | Coinion, they are fully justified, When Bir R. Peel was have felt that it would have been a at importance which it may be possible to lay that m res had been taken, that arrangements were | “during the whole of m litical 1'fe perhaps—bave | Pinion, ey are fully j 5 2 5 ?, ' fi ; fice be said— if they had not determined tomeet that i wlll fener HBR none ay fore t | py with thes ich thoce evils Would be remedied, and | deem livicgin ie closeet fatimacy, who told me thay TRAE Set eas lived telarcth tab Wicd vemecitou- | iecken, ind as vo are, sinus ihe loss of the noble a fin administration of the war would be vigor- | thought the charge unadviseble, and that it would pan {his question, Tmay state generally what Gusly and, as was tobe hoped, successfully prosecuted. |° weattn that which I meant to strongthen, and vho | Uf cry effort fer the mainvonauce of has occurred with respect to the Four Po’ a this | Sir, }should have been more disposed to give that rea- | yavised that I should not pret n I stand | incurring the ritk, not to say the guilt. of state the question stands at present:—At the end of | 0m, because it is obvious that the concession of @com- | here to justify my resignat , told, av | be has not rhrupk from the manly avowal of November the Russian government, through the Minis- | mittee on the eubject—n committee sitting for weeks, | Deve ycon, tiset have’ usted premmierelyy T own that | Willy injustice to him, add thie tere: Vieona, declared thelr acceptance of what are | Perhaps for months—would be fatal to the eficiency of | fhe goubt that prestes om my hind ig whether T ought { ent with that opinion ealled the Four Points. On the 2dot Dezember atreaty | those military purposes which it would chiedly allect. | ot ‘at that time to have brought the quettion of this | ink Peace, whil Ja tyned by France, Pugland, ani Austsia and on the There was, therefore, the strongest inducement, | Tyange to an issue. clear, boar’) But among thove win | eit yt ol . Wrance, England and Austria, at Vienna, with Prince | t© the inquiry which the honorable ani learn- | ine Sec of St ome Department, | inectimable blessing. Gortechakoff, the Minister of Russia, At that meeting | Cd gentleman proposed to make; but, sir, rH ee ns 4 ined with ment and of the governments of Englazd and Austria, | ™e to urge with effect, and according to my own co ‘the interpretation which those three Powers put on the | fcience, ard with trath, that objection tot he Four Points, and which should be con:idered as tho basia | tion for ® committee, (Bear, hear) I hope the Hou ef negotiation. Iwill mention only that with respect to | Will here permit me to refer to some circumstances per- men, I bave furt! ‘ te Pinch, | scope of the statement I have to make, When the office Yur anend to the preponderance of Ruseta tn the Black | of Secretary of State for War was aspirate! from ‘he of- agree to the propored interpretation of the Four Points, | fice of Secretary of State for the Colonies, Lord Aberdeen | Yiew of rendering ther more ¢ id be made of the military departments, with the | which would not be a) ‘icient. Imyeeif hadthe | ing of this country. (Hear, h object the consoii , ; Walt | to keep which of the two offices be should most desire, OT ete urg iy tdi overran reergae pre ions, | The Duke of Neweastle, with a commendable ambition, Prince Gort+chakoff read a memorandum which he sai | the direction of the orders for that expedition and the ‘be had re-eived, and which contained the views of hi general mevagementof the war. Lord Aberdeen conrent- governméns. Ii was replied by Count Baol, Lord Wast- | ¢d to that arrangement, and I was a cousenting party te meoreland. an‘ Baron de Bourqueney that they had no | the appointment. At theend of the session the various Mbority to receive any such memorandum,-aod that | Members of the government, expecially thore who are must require, at the basis of negotiations, the con- | members of this boure, dispersed, ax they usually do; and cime urgent which I have ) The onty eat ion before Cirisimas ws sent of the Russian Plenipotentiary to the interp:cia’ion, | it appears to me that that dispersion, acter the excessive ti bs ti ‘eat as to hed some portion of its brilliancy on thi Gwnech Ne had alrendy received tuformaion, he fr. | ivore of this hcuse fs mesea-ary to the duo performance | 7!Fett Jropors ‘was ‘mace an) the Cabiuet—T thick | Sho were his colleagues, (Hear, hear.) Ikuow it w tian Plenipotentiary, as Lord Westmoreland states in his | of their duties, and no one, unless he has to discharge | cy caiuiday Jast..J reflected on that proposni, i ui, | Very urgent duties, is to blame for resorting for pur- des; poalny tp Sedotery eneraniem et Te Poo) | poses a health to distant parts of the pei (Hear, then I went to my noble friend at the bead of the | that those with whom I had alway went, of the perdi tame interpretation as the basis of | heer) Iwas not in any office which obliged me to take | Tronceal, segotiatione. My hon. friend will understand that ths | 4BY Partin the conduct of the war; but, during my ab- | tgve Rassian government, in accepting tht interpretation as | *tBce, there was scarcely a day in which T did not both | {) I the ught it incomp! elso a paper containing y owr views on the | account of their character, abzli erament of her Majesty declared that thoy wore realy t9 | Sil T went lecturing about the country at that time, is true that the " the member for Bristol, had said, on the day this House Wabno powers are given to our minister to negotiate | (pated for tne holbdays, that tt would ive grat gra Sir H, Wittovcney inquired whether there would be | tiication to his fiends at Bristolif t would attend al te- | tem from veglect (Lear, hear); 't in true that the heart Tectic a spp atin ne | Fary toviety in that place, and the day was named be- | st i w gay objection to the production of the protocal of the | TD ea ee eee oonoing fri ie norinand | Sf tke whole cf England throbs with anxiety and sym- | to say t uid understani whether negotiations were actually | bis neighbors in Hedford would be gratided if I would at- Geing on, oF were suspensted at present? Lord J. 2vssxxt replied, with respect to the put by the honorable baronet, which he reserved for considerat to the cther question, he borged to sty euch vigor and efficiency has taken the conduct of the | government of Lord Aberdeen. It is my these two revjuests, which certainly did not exhaust much time, or call tor much study with respect to what I bad toray, (A laugh.) I conceived, Lowever, that as Presi- dent of the Council, these mentings were not very alien Sak targa basuk tn Pho bostonks had een from the objects of that office.” (Hear, hear,” and Mr. Buucnt uncerstood the roble lord ta say that cer- | eughiler.) It bas, neverthelers, been cast on meas an tain terms were offered to Russia, and he anderstond | tputation that I attemed to the request of these hat, after some deliberation, Russia had coaseated also-| S¢Btlemen But, passing from that to @ snore important | Anrieen, as he had not taken tive part in the d!- | Lord Pazang that ove of the Four Points whi:h had for its object | point, I bave to ctate that, having attended all the Cab- | rection of the war)—I could no that there wasa | hou’d rot all 1o put an end to the predominance of Russis in tho | inet councils that met on this subject, I wrote tomy | persom with euch po +f Flack Sea, He hoped the noble lord would not withiraw | "oble friend Lord Aberdeen at the time that Tl supposed | eperzy of mind and ; « me there would be Cabinet meetings—at the beginning of Beatie beets anh fer te eerste cr ot Gctober—that I should be ready to attend them when- | beed of the War to exable him to bave the the whole of the waroflices, so thgt any supply may Le | trve prix at that was (Hear, bear.) (and I only mentio pacting because I think de- | roble lerd bocy will impute it as blame to my noble fr'ent, Lord | | oth sides of the house.) the address of (Hear.) could mot say | my noble friend and the house ti megotiations, as the noble lord left the House to infer | ever they me. My noble friend, in rep'y, in‘ormed me papers eiperabirenrcepbercrs! ns of the wail ¢ the contra: Would, when a distinct proposition hai | that he sbouid not return from Scotlind tl the 14th of | Geyartrents had either been carried into effect or was in | himeelf from the government of which we were both | lastepol. What had become of the 40,000? He believed been acct. tas Ler oa, fenenatian, fi | was held, which I thought it wy duty to attend, Bat government to th Bour Points; but they could not state anything farther. | ™nistration of affairs relating to the war was required. Gear, bear.) Leia | culty. it IMPEACHMENT OF CHE MINISTERS. ) the repute Jn the House of Lords, Thureday, Jan. 25, Lord Lyxp- BUEET gave notice that on Friday, the 2ls: of February, SANK seetitaavenos Ohiuel Keteae be would move the following resolution: — at ibe bead Of the geversment id tint ed might point out a way for their correction and remedy— | by. the past, the presen’ frie Thatin theopinion of tnie House the expedition to the | which I sball be obliged to read some extracts in order | {¢¢Hig tvo, that many members of this House would | sit, upcouttedly } mus samatter that affected, in some degree, mm of a colleague who had not long before the way of t t duty in peratively called upon me to state m chment on t! i s y her Majesty's government with “4 : look tor an assurance on my part which they would be | fect right, without any impr Crimea was undertaken by her, Majesty's government wit | to put the House in possession of the ground on which | very inadequate me dient inquiry into the Be expected from the en mt of the cove came to the ¢ecisien at which I arri ning last. ‘The into the details of some personal matter: don Tuesday eve- enters their contidence, t Te at ite un. r The Ear! of Extxwsonoven said he had given notice of | House to listen to the representations which I thought it bis intention to move on Monday for certain returns, | necersary to make and to the answers | received. (Hear, and hed intimated that he would take that opportunity hear.) 1 wisnod, if pomublo, to put the matter ay uighl ef making rome remarks on the conduct of the war le a would bear ratber the air of a different official ar. » 3 e al Snderstond that o noble aud learned friend of his (Lord | rangement than any displacement of individuals. Be one sredee ed pieandenify ince foiifemnyes bo ment of the Duke of Newcastle to tl Lyndburst) bad to-night given notice of a motion that | therefore stated the question of the War Department in | (hodia be a minister sitting on that bench (ibe min would br ng under consideration the general contuct of | two pion of view—the cne as rferriog to an arrange- | 1:4) bench) to govern the and that the military the war, and he (Lord Eilscboroagh) sevens teece) | tee Mich it was mecossary to make, in consejuence of | rartments should be at the xame time constantly over- that it was not advieable that he should bring for- e pledge give: is houre Jai von, that the ‘i : i om Meutay, themotion of which he lsd gives 20: whole of the War Department should be considered with | 10Ked and checked by a committee sitting up stairs; Hee, Dut he woald move for the returns in question on | a view to arrangements which should provide for its efll. ome other day. ciency; and che other point of view relating to the car- ordinary necer rying on of the war. (Hear, hear ) With respect to the | Caticns trom ay to day, but mu SHE MINISTERIAL ORI3IS—RESIGNATION OF | first point, I said 1 though? it was of the utmost impor- | Yence to be adduced with respe LORD JOHN RUS3ELL. | tance that @ person of the rans of Privy Councillor | ix wonths ago. (Hear, hesr.) Io the House of Lords on the 26th ult, the Earl of | *bould held office in could not be consistent with t mittee to ssy whether my noble friend consider what house, upon whom should de. Zenith the retirement of my noble friend the Presidens | tions which I foreeaw would come before the House, Council from the situation whieh he held ia Her | (Heer, bear.) 1 will not trouble the House with any Thier y'# government. That retirement, my lords, must | on that part of the subject, but I proposed that materially affect Her Majesty’s goverareent, and, from of Secretary of State for War and the office of See- | hear.) It woul the I thought sufficient to prevent it, my duty was not to | with my colleagues be competent for others, if they thought yernment the benefit of his services. the station and character of my noble friend, great im- | Tet#ry at War should be held by the same person. (Hear, | gither that everything necessary had already been done, | lord consentea to_do #0; he yielded to the recom- | guage. portance must be attached toit. 1am not fully posseas- | bear ) Im a letier addressed to the Karl of Aberdeen, on | Cr would be Cone, coosistently t0 oppose the motion for | mexdations of bis colleagues; but {rom that time to the | - Mr. lt. Daewwoxp,—The Right Hon, gentleman shall period of his res'gnation | am not aware that be ever re- | undrrstand, at least from me, plainly and intelligibly, | verted to seen a] which he bad wade to Lord Aber- | that I do impute it to the s imcompetence of some ir, 1 am sure my noble iriend will feel that | man or men that an event har occurred without a paral- in what I am stating] am speaXing as if I were nota | lel in history; that au army, three times victerious, has party coneerned in the transaction, but simply ac a | been left to perish, to be utterly destroyed, by the member of a government from which one of his bas departed: but from the time when that correspond- | The whole country is in wrath with somebody, ence occurre!—‘rcm the 2d of December, or somewhere | Feems to }now who that somebody should be. (Hear, | }, at the earnest an] wu! my noble friend conse! ia that up to the mo: renew his froposal. it that my noble friend felt a difficulty in meeting such a motion as tl sands for to right in the name of my honoral J. Entertai S48 of all the motives which may have induced my noble | the 17th of November, 1854, I naid:— friend to adopt this course, bot Icannot do better per- From the other point of view the prospect is eq naps, than reed to your lordships the letter containing | cletr. We are in the midst of a great war. In order to on that war with efficiene: offer of his resignation, which I received on Taesday | 10 Conitnucly urgine, bectening, completing the mi nin preparations, or the Minister of War must be atrong cnough | speech. ‘o control other departments Every objection of other To that note I received no answer ; but on the follow- of foreign interosta to be att ing evening my ncble friend informed me that he had mid BR pa Kd he Se pelther been to Windsor with my zerignation, and that her Teoitilts ‘Gh varamount ‘necesity of enerying on Majesty had been pleased to accept it with the gracious ator my re- | the war with efficiency of exeh service, and completeness of | Pression of ber great concern in doing so, This, then, | means to the end in view. (Cheers.) 0 as this ‘mmediate statement is concerned, is my If, therefore, the first considerations here presented lead Those ministers, f my grativude | to the conclusion that the Secrotary of Stato for the War | who believe that they can anccessfally oppons inquiry— t. Department must be in the House of Commons, the latter | who believe that they are right in respest to what > Very’ traly, considerations point to the neoorsity of having in that office | fun q d what ne pect to what has % 7 RUSSELL, from experience of military details, from inhe en done ard what is doing, will be perfectly justified According to my noble friend’s desire, I laid his revig- | nd from weight with the Mouse of Com. | im taking the part of objecting to the proposed commit- mation before her Majesty, who bas been graciously | id to guida the great oporations of wac | tee. I should have been out of place in such company. to accept it. I have said, my lords, that! w: Hear, hesr.) There is only one , bear. tat the same time I must say, that [ mot fully possessed of ths motives—all the motives a nba Revern mens who come ~ este that there is a rumor, and | hope a tri which may have induced my noble friend to adopt j Erciad iaanealda niin tocamenia ah ee the arrangement 1 proposes in my first letter course. 1 was perfectly aware that some time ago—' | War Department. (Cheors.) of the 17th of November, or rather in ay subsequent months ago—my noble friend disapprove, or was di is the opinion J gave, confidentially, to the Bari | Uetier-ramely, thet of plseing the seals of the Wai Mafied with, the conduct of the war, but after the exp ¢ abeveuen.: Boles 1 cad’ the Ea ‘ Y abe 2 tan partment in the banés of the noble lord, the Homs mations which took place on that occasion, and after his ib Ay that the Earl of Aberdeen having re. | 'cctetary bas been made, (Hear, haar) I shall greatly constant activity in sharing the business and preparing eo some days fo comsifer a matter of auch impor. | Teiviceil that is the case, for I beleve it will be of great T wrote to him again cn the J8th of Novemoer, | SCBeSt fo the country that my noble friend (Lord tine that I concurred in that delay, addi » | Palmerston) shoule hold that off (Hear, hear.) I oe 7; Secrag= eball be glad to think that my cetiremect from office w de yon shontd show | has in any bi contriboted to that chenze, and I eee Many datenvion | believe it must in rome way have eontributel to Ind ban “ eo upon him. | i+, (hear, and jaugbter,) for otherwise I have no It is not for me to do more than to express, which I do tins ho has made. beharnot bad the authority r coubt thatmy noble friend, Lord Aberdeen, with the meet vafeigneily my deep regret at the step which my | rite forge vreat a ephere, and has not been able to do all | fairress and candor which belong to him, and whieh meble friend has ibeught it his duty to take. My lords, | that have been done with Inrger powers of con‘rol. I always found in his, wooll have inewered. the we one can possibly feel more than Ido the great loss | To my letter Lord Aberdeen replied—imietaking my letter have jurt read, by saying that circumstances had which her Majesty's government must sustain by suchen | propositirm, I must sey—that he could net acqaiesce in | in some respect chenged, that that which he could not event an this, Indeod, many of your lordships may rs | the proposal | had made, On the 2st of November bo | honestly recommend to the Queenin November be had eollect that at the formation of the prosent Goveromen', thus: thought necessary at the prevent tin i that 1 never would | a] being founded on the enpposed impropriety | Ieughter,) and that therefore my inquiry; but for my own part I feit that I could not do #0, andl, therefore, wrote in very short terms, not quite accurately stating the terms ot the motion, a not to the following effect [Given in Lord Aberdeen’ deen, Now, CorsHasert. Mr. 0 ing’ t ie 1 do not see how this mot: to be resisted ; Yat, te it fovolves a censure upon the War Department con ed by my colleagues, my only course is to Hon. © therefore to le resignation of the off efore the Queen, with t c dor Her Majesty's kinnoss tor many yea I remain, wy dear Lord Aberdeen, yo ab that perio¢—wh st of bis colle am quite ready to a learned friend the me he did an opinion th War Department,m in resistin, to effect Ng nc dle friend himself, in th ber for Sheff hs e these at ® the measures of government up to the dayon whieh Par- | 4 Mament assembled, I was certainly somewhat surprised, aa well as deeply concerned, at receiving the letter which Ihave just read. My noble friend may be at this moment atall events, it was his intention to do so to-day: in writing the le @ fall explanation 6/ bis motives and of his conduct 4, think pornit] recers. He ought to Lave opportunity of stating to 4 and of her Majesty's Goverom nt, | ent of the Council could have Was the | ment or requiri: indeed, by any impartial person, | ture, of Presi: overnment would by own honor, to our own consisten and tho | aypointment to the War Department of my noble frie re; eur renee cf duty, to meet that motion whi Calg te enteral cee ener” pe inaaeunate, thee 10 evuld the Home Secretary, of whom I caunot teak in ~~] the conversation at every st made to night, in another place, which will « Another. Althcugh you may te far from ektertaining any | tems than T have alveasy used in one of my letters. whether a censure is to be pronounced upon her Majes- ty’s Govert ment or not. ereiore, even without the j tation. the Dake, Ido not think that hi great, and powerful, and almost jj ore taace | Ke wes, owt very strong grounds, would wish to Sf my noble friend, we have thought it due to ourselves | him in such » portion te meet the motion so announced, which induced me to | In the cther parts of his letter Lord Aberdeen stated take the courte I have now stated. that he did not thivk any man woull undertake the Lord J. Ressers. then rose to make his promised state. | ties which T proposed should be undertaken by one p: mont to the Houre, He said—At the request of my noble | son—vir., thore of Secretary of Stati for the War friend at the head of the werent, T have poned | partment, and, at the same time, Secretary at War. the statemensT wish to make with respect | consi*ere? it fo be necessary that « privy councillor fthe office which I lately had the | off'se should be maintained. and that that efice should t of President of the Council. I shall | be held im connection with the finances of the army, in- such detire, : (Heer, bear.) Pravin; ted thus much with respect to my position and the position of the government, | have not regularly any right to go further, butas perhaps I N_take no part im the debate on the motion of ion could receive no other iaterpre ang n to give a vote on the | conducts the war,” be permitted to nay somewhat more | had the opportunity ¢ tothe present state of public affairs. (Hear, | tions which I should state, in the first place, that I believe | or of acquieseing in it at o1 parties in house, without distinetion—for I been mad 10 distinction whatever, are anx’ io ihe meeting at Leeds de- either of rec & ame fo he matter, Nertey that the statement I | dependently of the Secretary of State for the War De a hore. ould 2 loss to be of such to make may be prolon, more T could wish | partmen' Je stated, aleo—a consideration well desery- st and honorable peace (cheers); and I repeat ceem that to such preem'nent impor- Ht should be, On Tuesda; when I was present in | fname might be desirable that here. fom that thove rmcatures whic are the most | tance as to impore on them the necessit: of surrenier- | after honorable and learned gentleman, the | some military chief, who was in the House of 4, gave notice of a motion for lect | Lords, should bave the office, sud, therefore, it could not which are most dec! and juestionably | view to the formation ef rome Si inquire into the confition of our army | be always held bys member of the House of Commons. just and honorable, will meet wi the most fa astopel, ‘and into the conduct of thors de. | T considered the various objections of Lord Aberdeen, | #1] parties in this house, (Cheers.) 1 be have happened without any government whose duty it has been | and on the 28th of November I wrote a» follows — Lieve that if avy trinmph attends ber Mi imister to the wante of that army.” Sir, I, T come, therefore, baving cleared the ground of att ¢ al course, bad thonght that it woul! be provable some — oratrnctions, to theres? qveetion, what are the require i ment will 6s heart-ly rejoice ip tbat triampbas 3 cannot be | jon that that was the nex} place, to He serny which it appears to me nobody could in reason Sas, on | bavetakenany objection. But! must say that I think the last residence test hesi- | i i jon in assuring the House that the eer were mot justite a oe ome ie “eat Pectin nee England and France will remain united to the end of | , ard, therefore, to the elrcumstances under which my | this great str . (Cheers.) Well, then, with these | roble friend has quitted office, I feel bound to state that in advantages I we may hope to see one of two | Ithink the hasty and precipitate manner in which he found still more Gteient. Undoubtedly, the public er- | things—one, xo doubt, more desirable than the other; | tendered bis nation was a from ibe other, atthe same time, an honorable course, | nary practice, and was a measure, I can may ly, fi on the patriotic feeling and loyalty of this 0d ta0 oe Tintended to bring the questior ~ Hoxte nian hese next on the rp a aikance of binet; and I, certainly after a good der of | the Emperor of the French, and thirdly, on the , told him that sheets said he could not | the Fmbpero Einpero’ fei, it hora ena ‘o stand in the front of the battle, and man. i 7 . | Peace cannot obtained. lear, hear. aps Zence {0 which my Hon, friend refers, With respect t> | fully to take my part in opposing the appiietment of | {4,P4 wish todo anything, which might tend to ky zany eo pereisiod i, gar, ba have nap, Iopaeh Aes the words of Sir R, Peel with respect to that noble lord, and also from ceclaring that, in my e Christian minister of a Christian country lente (engi ace before But hile ready a 5 d it ia perfectly consist eg to say what the result 0 the moral obligation of maintain- peace maintai honor—that | » & minister leesinclined to sacrifice any es; House to reject it, why then it will be for her Majesty’s t anything from the dignity and y December a meeting was held by ths Ministers of | !f possible, to put forward such an odjection | Lreed me not to co wo was the noble Lord himself, | hencr of this Pillapaatipracey forthe pespore of securing thas government to consider what course they will pursue i ‘ho at the ti hen th CT took T believe the opinion thue expressed to be perfectly . the French Minister read, on the part of is own govern | found upon reflection that it was impossible ‘for | Ya absent, and to whom T-afverwarda, read ity te | just. My roble friend had entered into this war not | {Be Perron charged with the conduct of this w prsed me, coneidening: ite objection ey bay een nae hoe maconenyy, Lee it way Oe aes na O60 made, not to press e matter avy furiher. lear, a ad @ long conversation wi imon the 4 Hear.) ‘However? tint being the ase with res.oct £5 | peace with which we ought to be satisfied; and must | Bd with all the energy and vigor of which the govern ; lt ie, theuahs Sahay neo her to consider what wae the ease with | say I entirely cencurred in all he gard, and had H a Me third point, i was proposed in that interpreiation to | Fonal to myrelf, though they hardly come within the | respect to measures, Ihave remiaded the House that | the fullest reliance that he would net concur in last 7485 8 plecge was given that a .new arrangement | any peace which is ne ee Ponape and only the uzan‘mous and enthusiastic feeling of the British | ; f 5 r.) Perl Put that he would request further instructions from his | thenght it By ee) Hropose to the Duke of Newcastle | honor of serving on two commissions having for their | say afew words with respect to the govern! ‘ion and improvement of those de- | left, and for joinmg which I have been oftentaunted. J | that one of the most ‘magnificent spectacles which his- aan ‘ partmente, Vi 0 : .d from time to | cannot but say that I look back to my association with and on the 7th or 8th of January another | 98! think, ered aa having exerted himself ia fittiog afaareaa it Dunc Tita Feeatee rO BAGS altee (hs many of the wavestiree sod acte of that administration | tory bas ever presented to mankind, is to sce these two mecting was held at the office of the Austrian | Onl ® very large cxpedition, he should, of course, like to | gost of them was appointed. At the commencement of | with great pride and satisfaction. (Hear, hear.) I Minister for Foreign Aifairs, and at that moeting | ttmain at tLe head of the department which should have | ibe war, then, that which before bad been expedient bo- | look back, above all, with the greatest pride and satis- d necessary; and that consideration to | faction to that speech of e'oquence and wisdom deliver- | O¢ injustice, in the pursuit of further conquest, and for srved was dae to the interests of the | ed by my Right Honorable friend theChancellor of the | fhe destruction of the independence of natioas; but this public and to the cxpectations of this House. (Hear, | Exchequer when proporing bis faanclal scheme two | js the grat time in he history of mankind in which we h 1 was abio to anpounce in the Pets a r and are ning, 4 sree the inate that the Commis- | ciples of finance., lear, hear. is & satisfaction i} P i rt of a cause konorable | fat was placed ‘ueder the’ War Minister. With | mv tothink thatthe splendor of that exhibition was ao | {12eh0y (Hear, hear). Itiast be cricent, therefore, | and | ‘aid at the time when that administration wae formed | ment which knows the value of the instraments it pos- overnment, «nd told him that, after considering the | whig party—had not, in the distribution of power, that 7 fo and inefficient, 1. | degree of Influence that properly belongs to them on | ™ noble friend will pro ‘ 0 ubject. This, the House will observe, was very lately; | bers. It always appeared to me before that period that the basis of negotiations, of course reserve to themselves | receive from snd write a letter to my noble friend the bath baa ae tea ae expect ‘that jiy! viawe: vould bela veld Unjurt notion had found. its way among Europe. (Cheess.) the power, when the baris is laid down in articles, to | Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs with respect to the | adopted. i had therefore to consider, when I came to | the public tos very great extent—namely, that the mhig 3 : make any objection which they may think fit. The gov- | Cccurrences that were caily taxing place. It bas been | yefect upon the Tuesday evening on’ the course to be | party as an exchisive party, and Tequired all power an : talen on the following Thursday, whether I could fairly | office for itrelf, und was not prepared to suppor: any sys- : Snter into nrgotia:tons upon the basin [Have meationed, | (AJevgh,) The truka ix) an Lonovable frond of maine, | gna honestly cay, Iti true tict eva have arisen; | tem of acminiitrution in wiveh wt old uctesjoy tuat | SCATHING OF THE ENGLISH GOVERN- Nears men who fought at the Alia, at | monopoly. I must say I think that opinicn was an un- MENT. Telemann, ond at, Balablava aro perisbing many of | just one, and the cenduct of the whig parly curing the | Jn the Houre of Commons om the 20th ult, j jest two years fully justifies my opinion. 1 will venture | Mr. Roynvck rose to move for a select committee et ae eee ee tte than ths cis purey, | Pol sad into the conduct. of those Gapartments of the ‘ yathy on th's subject (hear, hear); butI can tell you | or more dirintererte iotism than the whig party, | pol, and into ac . Mr, Layaxp alto wished to know whother the Hous» | being at the house of my brother, he informed mo that | {Party pepe ea Feedage ull pare Aso hte whoy during the wiole of that period, has vapparted the government! whose duty it has been to minister to the tend a literary meeting iu that town, I complied with | War}epariment with ruch a consolidation of offices as | will ever be my pride, to the last day of my life, to have | army, be cbserved, bad been ack ntire aad Instant coatrol of | telonged toa putty which, as 1 conceive, uphelds the | Russell, who Lad coofessed that be was unable, as a ‘ples of freedom and the just influence of the | Minister of we Crown, to resist this motion; yet, immediately furnished and any abuse instantly reme- | yeople, end, whether in or out of office, it will be my died.”’ I felt} could not honestly make such a'declaration | constant endeavor to preserve and to ma ntain ‘the prin- ‘ter what { had written ipies which the great whig party has laid down, jes t down amid considerable cheering N=lt may bs probably expected that I | dition of the ormy there could not be two epinio ay noble friend to pass | he had to do, therefrre, was to +ubmit to the House that fficiont | withon! ome observation on the part of her Majesty’s | inquiry was necessary to ascertain what were the causes , at the | government, and, m the first place, I must beg to assure | by which that condition had been brought about. We hat nothing could be | had sent £4 000 soldiers properly equipped, who haddone sed | more painful to me, offic ally and porsonally, than the | all they could to uphold the honor of the country. At pre- tary | tep which he bas felt it his duty to take in neparating | sent there were not more than 1 bayonets before Se- the prosecution of nego. | Uetober, end on the Lith of October a Cavinet council | py ospect in euch a way that I could pledge the faith of | members. There have been, no doubt,,at perticular | that the condit‘on of the army had beem broaght about i sr ¢ efliciency of the arrangement. Well, | times, temporary differences between my noble friead | ty the incapacity, at home and abroad, of those whose J. Resexit had already stated that the govorn- | in the course of that month, ani irom the beginaiog of | fering this—giving the matter the most painful atten. | and my.elf, which may have appeared to estr i ment bad expressed their willingness to negotiate on the | the month of November, it struck me that a better ad- | tion—feeling also, an I have already said, that I could | each ether (laughter); but] can assure him that those | } Mr. 8. Hxnsert, in resisting the motion, odeerved that - : ret. | ive mo faint nor faltering opposition to the proposition | differences Lave passed away from my mind (hear ,hear), | the first cauce of the demoralization of the army was to (Cheers) made up my mind with considerable sitll | G¢ the honorable and learned member for Sheffield, and | asIinow they have from bis; and I cam assure bim | be fourd in the system we had pursued for the last forty that I must get up, if Lopposed it at all, and stand ia | that, whether I act with him or whether we are divided, eare. The Englisb army was a collection of regiments, ‘ Hat which many would think ‘might afford a | the great erteem which I feel for his high character and | in every one of which there existed a perfect regimen: sumed the office which he held; but, still, 1thought | reme:y for thore sufferings and distresses which had | for bis great abilities, and the deep friendship with | system, but the eld officers in command of t been complained of, or, at least, if it failed in doingthat, | which I am animated towards him, never can be affected | ments bad never seen a bri the future. (Hear.) Now, | with the organization of large bod'.s. The men, too, in mit, a public man bass per- | this highly civilized country never !earat to do anyth! ready to act upon, as they did so far honor me with | perscn, to quit office whenever he thinks thathis conti bat efficient alterations had been made, | uence in office cannot be reconciled with his sense of duty; | vertes; but in the present instance there had been also ey I was conscious that I should be repaying that cont: and however hove hom he may leave may reer: is great military ruccesse: " rn dence with treachery if I gave an assurance of the | logs, je ac's in the manner I have stat je ja | a Ferprise have ted to the most disastrous rerults, necesary io quote; but, as it ia, 1 must request the | Lind knowing it not to be true, (Hear, hear’) Well, | perfectly froe from all reproach. With regard to the | of stores for the army, he contended that {2 was unju it appeared to me, no coubt, that the members of the | circumstances to which my noble friend has adver' government could bardly remain in office if such a com. | itisnotfor me to say whether my noble friend the one proposed were appointed; that it | right or wrong in acquiescing last tay in the appoint- | conceal any portion of their conduct in this ¢ office of Secretary ter, i of State for the War Department; neither is it for me right or wrong in propor that T should be substituted for the noble ie in the discharge of the duties of that office. I was it in Paris at the time when the correspondence Ne ne every practical and that the Mipister for War should have not only to | to which my noble friend has adverted passed between as to do in order to provide for the | him and lord Aberdeen; but 1 am ready to corroborate | motion, which wi of the war, and toattend to appli- | what my noble friend han rtated, that when, on my re- | J; also consider the evi- | turn from Paris, he communicated to me that corres- | sutherities abroad. @ committee would ei'her gan st to bis conduct five or SS aod when the quest.on arose whether or not, | no information, or it would be obtained at the expense . Ca ined CRE iptig Sg ed to = by He hare the ee if it made |. | adept his resommendations, should deprive g0- ¢ this course, to avow it at ence by a Band Ammer’ said—It is fitting that your lordships ehould solve mere bog war ee sot ecieeene: nisteative system. (IHear.) I, therefore, felt that I | verpmentof his rervices, I, together with every one of | tell'gitle decision. The roment eed ts weeeive come information of the circumstances connect- | be 4D authority able to answer the various {ues- | could come only to eve conclusicn, and that as I couli | his colleagues, urged ond entreated him not to quit the | rious position; it had received a heavy blow by the ‘de. | DOt resist inquiry, by giving tte only assurances waich | goverpment. I Khar ie | thought it my duty to join | cersion of one of ite most important members, ani he a in earnestly requesting my | hoped the House, considering be course it ought sui remain any, ent Serene ezovernment. (Hear, | noble friend to continue to give = &; to take, and the perils which Dol 'y tion the obvicus intention of which was | mation. Iam not o t the same time, Ithink my | erpwent. I can understand that it is very decent and which he made jast | proper snd right fer now upon thet motion, has shown that, independently | put themselves ‘orward in order to screen their subor- | of ail perronal considerations, apart from all preference | dinates; but it is not satiefactory to us. Does any one | N for one man ower ancther, there were grave constituti th: objections sufiicient to justify any man in voting it, My noble friend very properly said that it that a committee of that tort, supervieing, cri- ticizing, and superinten¢ing the daily transactions of | ment. Why did the noble lord retire? Because the War Department, could coexist with the proper dia- | not yet been able antifactorily to escertain upon whom | charge of the duties of that department. But, though | the fault rests. My right honorable friend has som- wy noble friend might properly snd naturally have con. | pletely evaded the question. I thought his speech the | burnt up for firewood ex they arrived, from the unlikell: other night most conctnsive for his own defence; the | hcod of the rest ever following them. The want of shoes tary with regard to the person who beld the office of | oly fault { Gnd with it is, that it was too clever. It Secretory of State for War, yet 1 must venture humbly | showed bim te bea very eloquent man. Eloquence isa | to rubmit to him that that opin‘on onght to have been fs og to the noble Lord at the bead of thegovernment | strong {arily likeness. The consequence was, that when before the reassembling of Parliament after the late tinned to entertain an opinion that a change was neces. amin: Be and the consoq the motion of ingu'ry m'ght be in some degree 1 would be accepted on bis renewal of it. If before | to the propriety of rending troops to Varna, for @ od assistan } f Wi * ? not entirely removed. (Hear.) That cannot have | Parliament ret, my noble friend had said to the head | astistence, as was said, of the Torteany elvilization,’’ tances, and in ordinary r . om | been the care, This must have been a rubsequent at. | of the government, “I, im common with all man- | although how the two got together I know not. { Pp, myrelf adopted a differen’ mei I shall be very glad if my retirement | bind, expect that when Parliament meets, some mo- | Jaugh.) Verna lies on the road Ruesia to Constan- | ¢ present condition of this countr dthat it would be considered in this mportant office, in the present june- either inculpsting the govern. | tinople, and 't was very natural to plant a there; an explanation from them with | but, to my intinite astonishment, I rd to the conduct of the war’’—for, inde»t, | bad arrived th t corner, the leading must have satisfied every to be looked for—if the | rert the army ‘here & wago! the objec. | under the commisrariat, until the slteration te which had been made to the nobdie lord’s . | 1. If the same objections Mr. H. Drvwmoxp—The army remained for a co: & former occasion had | able time in that unhealthy place, Varna, no on they would then have had the opportunity | why. Sending an army witbout a wagon tralo, determining whether they would continue to sustiin res, until we can ob- | the lore of the noble lerd’s services, or whether they * te jus for the prorecution of the war, and those terme | ing their offices into the hande of her 7, with a | ernment to clreumstances | is no doubt t my rien Bonorable friend has fully dis- these who are in oppor! to Lord Aberdeen’ —— Fe grrangenats Corte either fer ths reeeedl ve of the the portunity ef reconsider be propont, and the ou ns on which it was four if he bad declined jopt it, and my noble friend had still pia: sine qud non change which he then his resignation would have been placed on 3 the ordi- of that, wi may be charged with the maneg>ment the war in future, will feel it his duty, as faras bis functions go, to con- duct the war with vigor and energy, with a view to a cessful result. Undoubtedly Iconcur in that view, her Majesty’s government, have felt it their withstanding the loss which they have by the scession sf the noble lord, rom the motion which is to come on er )—and without any other change Weare meet the motion as we stand, and if it should be carritd, as of course may ensue, it is unnecessary for (Hear, and a laigh. ) reasons 6) urged lent weight to induce the in the course of the ce! ition for the future. a y, that whoever may | itmust ble lord —in accordance with the public feeling of I concur with my rob!e friend that this war cannof fail! being brought toa successful issue. We have for us not rae nation, Le wy have ed i eae \ mcietaace _ co-operation of our great iy; 16 jperor ol Ihave | Frmch, and the French nation, (Hear) 1 must say great vations unitirg their efforts in so noble and glori- ous acause. We have often seen in former times two great Powers united and co-operating for the purposes have seen two great natiens co-operating cordially and | that if the energies of this ccuntry are directed, in co- operation with those of the French nation, by a govern- fesses, 2nd which sppreci the objects it in view, a true proptet, the war ad num, | Will be conducted to am honerable and safe peace—a eacé which will secure not only the dignity fees but the independence and future tramquillity of THE CONDUCT OF THE WAR—TERRIBLE condition of our army before Sebasto- lanchely condition of our cknowledged by Lord J. ide, and it | want of that army. The in the breath, he had ceciared tha! jonld not support motion by speech or vote, The question divided into two parts—first, what was the condition of u my before Sebastepy); the second, how that dition had beew brought about? With respect to t! ‘rom utfeom | duty it was to m‘nister to its wants. regi- d were unacquainted ever entered rt of any | for themselres. We had ney war, be remarked, whi an, t begin wi mal re- After detaling the measures it to provide adequate supplies ted by the govern: without information, to 1a} Diame upon al rent men. The goverament hal po wish to 1d every intorma‘ion red should be laid aie of he Howse ne upon this su prevail edhe steps taken towemedy a by the government, which had acted, e said, tion. He endeavored to js, the inexpediency of the culated, in his opinion, to action of the government at home and of the OW, UFOn various its mind unded the country, would decide the question at once and in plain lan- leagues | cc my nce of hore who ought to have repypetet | Aa tnoone | hesr.) That is the plain question we want tobave answer- | ed, Is this wrath confined to one party, or is there not a | Duret of indignation frem one end of the kingéom to | the other? Is it not re-echoed from Germany and from | France? Is it not aeked in all their papers, what can the Erglish government be compored of? And was ever Fuch cruslty exhibited towarde men as that with which ing as | they have treated their ormy? I should have thought | the Right Hon. gentlemen them: would be the very | and asking for infor fret to thank us for coming forwa: k The Duke of Newcastle to : = refnaed ir ethene of cons’ Goleest Rinied aid’ ted mews pele.” Wah 7, I be. Mieve three months after they were 4 1 ete wa —_ -chief did not the of hint that he had forgotten Duke of Newcastle ever go toa 's te Gener. Sz ame If 50, does he not ascertain before be arrives at station whether hia friend will eend his carriage to carry him the odd twa miles to his house? If not, that two miles may lose hin bls Cinnes in Se mee wey esi fee coven Sane issued an order directing each man to cory ia Ne 336 1b. leas than petete, peinne. that Bip. Hardinge have asked the Newcastle whether he had apy means of cqersing thane baprages? ‘We may remember, too, the debates in the of Lords, ia which Lord Ellenborough alluded to this ques- tion of wagon trains, and out either their dis- tance from the scene of action or their inefficiency. But I now pass on to the most extraordinary thing. I lost sight of the for a time, when on a sudden I found it bad Jett Varna and gone to the Crimea. What aaFtaten for the datonce of turkey, ‘hat Wer Majety'a en for eo his House, and the whe county, should the cou of ter) De of mi lav tent to throw the blamo on a gov the gentlemen sitt'ng there to it is the fault of the Right ‘Hon. rmy ig starving’ No; but itis the be government. Does eS it is the | noble lord? No; but it is that of ti im- hi H und, army re, that one of the essenvidis of an army ‘on train—had been wholly fori ten; | le, having | in September—having always in- tended to rend it there—just discovered—three weeks that a wagon train was neces and accordingly ephed to Colone) Macmurdec to come over, who, I | ve, remeined bere for three weeks. ir. &. Harner m train did exist, but it wae ave onal, | the hororable gentleman referred had been made. ship to sea without masts ot steam. But! am to enter into the military question—I shall take vulgarert- looking view of the w: eu! for Ithink that if there deen sense enougir in the er y manage a private . Are | would have over this wonderfal seven miles, it to the | cha: bie he bas sent out articles liberall: eed that we shall have to fe davien bit but the persons for whom we tought, and to éraw them up. laugh. for ikia ‘that ui brder government The right honorable and the wer, ntry. Sebastoy Rui led The. alplo plied this kind o a at poR The duke did so, and we of it until he came into office many when he found that the and Prussia bad obt the same and the three reports were Jyi , agreed upon this po’ r she could do not’ formation ! mation—‘‘ Sou: into the sea.”’ (A not give b m the inf not make our ambassador at Constantinople procure poo gee for you before you went to the Crimea ? (Cheers. Istter that I troubled him with, but I also forwarded hint ‘a letter relative toa person who was thoroughly mas- ter of the language, aud who offered his servi ta procure information for them. gentleman : coun! bing! all Sussle’ might bluste: of attaching the rest of rere of wo! Europe, and means of ’ its never heard or thought more bree a 3 verpments oi Austria, Bavaria in some office in that hi kind of information, gz in the pea: against our proceeding as we did. But it was extraordinary that the srmy should have been sent the Crimes without any of the seces: information. ‘The right honorable gentlemen said Lord in had been directed mation, They had written to the other night thet roel Waghon or eocare te <3 ire in- hy, It reminds me of the Chindee ‘preclh- 6 and drive the bartarians id roe My right honorable friend has alluded toa eon Was pea Hy emplo} Pore know that Lord Stratford was information in 1853, and that a relation of mina was snot to Lrd Stratford, and recommended tohim = person who spoke the whole of the languages of the Lord Stratford was implored to send this per- son to the matic into the Crimea. Palin ad not sufficient. newspapers, t! 1 would ever have been sent. . You did not krow, as I have said the natur soil, the extent of the fortifications, the number of men ir the place, or the disposition of ‘the inhabitants; and sa ill informed have you been, and so ill-informed hag Lord Faglan been, that while the German newspapers—na doubt instructed by the Russian Ministers in those States—bave from time to published statements detail- ing the number of reinforcements sent by the Emperor Lor Raglan haé no know- hatever offthe arrival of those reinforcements. department ought to have sup- Crimes, to obtain information. In ot which, the army was sent with no knowledge either of the fortificationr or the eountry, the force in the town of Sebastopol itself, or the Kussian force in ‘he Crimea. this was a most rash and ill- and that the thing wanted was tl the government had refused to take measures to obtain, It is all very fine now to talk about despising calumny. The only Coubt I have is, whether there much leaning on the part of the rection of the newspapers (hear, if it had not been for sidered : information whic! has not been too Le Ser in the di- ag? anol whether, at expedition ta infermntion, and the Minis- other places ought to be asked what they have been about to neglect this information. I shculd like, also, to know the truth aout the opinions of officers h the amount oi force necese: been stated by the fi hly placed relative to for this expedition. If is of Marshal St, Arnaud t was his opinion that it was impossible to expect: success unless the fortress of Sebastopol was invested by an army of 50,060 men, with another army of 50,000 be- sides to protect the besiegers. 1 should Ike to know whether other commanders did not share th: remember hearing that a strong opinion w: by an ofiicer high in our service, who was ¢: expedition, that the force which invested Sebastopol wat In_ the last edition of a work by Sir H. pinion. I 3 ex) id las I find Sir H Dovglas is of opinion that, to invade the Crimea, and la our com: sent to the ition? A And her Crimea was, ‘Hear, hi de I indeed ¢ force to be landed, a most wonderful thing, and people who think that the landing - cf such am army upon a hostile shore is as easy a thing as goirg down to a whitebait dinner at Greenwich, know very little of the difficulties of such an undertaking. Cheers.) I then come to the case of the artillery, Now, id yc u intend to invade Russia or not? If you why was tLere no proper siege artillery ready? ni lege to Sebastopol with the force at was a desperate and daring operation, and that it was undertaken contrary to the judgment of n eminent engineer officer, whose opinion ought to have been taken. But while it would not be difficult to prove that several persons of high authority thought the forca Crimea was insufficient, the course I shall isto give the government everything toey ask in to carry on the war, strongly’ ob; whole proceedings from beginning to end. cf the troops in the nd creditable operation. onsidering the exteat of lear. ‘ays :-—‘‘ There was not one mortar for the firsttwo months of the siege.’” Only this morning I received a letter from an in the army, who « singie 1-inch Then, sgain, wh; comm nor at Scutari. blame to my ri was po provision made for hospital ac- ere were neither bospitals at Balaklava again, I wish to aticibute nao ht honorable friend. He has done ad- mirably in sending 10,000 bede, but I do not bel.eve the: are put up yet at Scutari. Part are at one place ‘and part at another—like the Mivie rifles, which were sent to one place, while the ammunition was sent to another, Why was there not supercago on board the govern- ment ver who had command of the things om board, and who knew what ought to be left at eazh place a% whieh the vessel monpett ‘There were per with- out end at Balaklava, but the army could not get them a no one had the ord:r to give them out. .) The commiseariat hae been, as they sty, bp bt igh.) 4 use. They wen’ told that Another e ve pane on application. “Down none could he get for men, although tons of potatoes at Balaklava were be- i Sooner than throw them overboard, got them for nothing. Why, then, ‘were these general given to is.” candles, except to hi the writer went to inning to decay. fhe French soldiers the writer asked, sue potatoes and of England? The men, wo, he arresrs of clothing. ond it had been ised to } there still, and the men letter vay country’s neglect. I ai Ministerial pe : militia clothing har been delayed, until the tailors have because Lord Hardirge could not settle the bose ridiculous German postboy was sent to Gibraltar for the mea there to practice with the Minie rifle, But from the oy on which the order was given, until a few weeks » understand there was nota Min With regard to this Minie rifle, I believe that Kr. West- ley Richarés went to an enormouse lost £10,000, cut of An sted to Lord * No wonder, if so, that the anytbing to eat. 1 have received a- levier from an officer in the Guards. ‘he honorable member proceeded to read the letter, which stated that the writer met the colone) of bis idlebags upon his borse, with laklava to draw tallow hands of the Trearury. Lord Aberdeen was the head of the Treasury, ond was it possible that the whole feeding the army was int clerks of the Trea: troops could not Aberdeen and the t with a pair of ae which he was going to les for his men, which, it wan stated in & general order, would be issued for their together to the stores, where they were re was not a tallow candle ia all va. neral order was issued that avy regiment Java, bu It had were in ay it added, were one year in jms at Seutari for months, rags, The writer of thi 8 this sort of thing bas been caused tl has been caused solely by ag t up; but it wai ompetence. (Cheers.) So, the amp? expense, and curred a great deal of trouble, to perfect it.’ After @ wearisome delay cne of the what did beer oyna do marufacture coats, (A ie rifle to be got there. in- eens ‘was selected, and They sent it to Liege to be Swperer of Rusa. Upon tayairy, 1 bal of Ruas: in i" der Is atill at the "head Of the com- wan io a aa 7 Ld huts were first tattea uy ‘asked how they ‘about the Dake of were to be got up from “Oh,” seys he, “the men can duty, ard it bas been caleulated t comp. They are already overworke? by other it would take the ‘era- | Jabor of 2,5€0 men for three weeks to draw them to the By tle last accounts it was stated that some of them bad arrived, and that they were beinz carried up by and other clothing has been tailo we can only get at by a commi tee of 1 fine art, the sister of poetry and painting, and there isa | which I therefcre think cught to be gran’ bear.) The orig two pla | too much, i ug! tod. lea inal fault, from the degiazing, | tae we got the eyeech in plain binck and white before us, | not to be not so much a single fault as an of given tie government the | many things appeared very different to what they were | faulte, arlei ing from your havi despir whether or not that pro- | before they had been translated. There was no doubt es: a 3 r, hear ) Whatever the Londra ble mem- ingracefal, a: ks at o time upon mules, the planks being Bi Hi terfer the West Riding may say, his talk about crumpling | Pp Rureia like a shee! | DP | the noble Je it of ran thro u A | and people thought that Rutele vasa iiete. foolish, ne- rate Power, which you had the means of crompling jenever you liked. he country, Hear.) I was sorry to (J Russell) say that the allies were wiil- irg to allow Russia to remain a great Power. 1 wish you (to the noble ford ire of Russia. (Aiwught fostered b; hat is been somet! louse, because, when I ment snd asked them to remain as long as the em- J This tnd of blastertog has bees your speeches at the Reform Club. The ap pointment of the new Minister at War, with his present wers, like @ trick upom the pata question to was in the sense@in which the the govere- Minister at War, it