The New York Herald Newspaper, August 24, 1853, Page 2

ee ae ae r ‘our measure ‘ourkstent with the benor und tndepen- RESUBID PASHA TO GOUWT NRETHLRODE. Becesier oy— Aware of the urviound interes ehoh bin ef yhat dod craut plosmave in 20'Wylog te exenier-y the G-man- 2019 wy aage-t caster ove Bap premedgated towards the end of Chaaban of this sntuiitss; view of veering 9B Bante cs. Qelecukieet, far'ber to asory your exeeleney t) a L) G isveerviog to berrelf the sacred over ber own wobjertea, Kan the co to sue Greak Ou f 4 Wileges aod imwonttiss onn deme: grant to it morcevor auch otier privileges asit way plesse bis mowaty the Sutton 10 grant to any ober ribt smone big Corts Lartly_ | bave not the ameibet doubt thet the ay ‘op the sbovrupeutioost Ormsne, aot ‘Dave pra uced contkience everywhere, wil affurd atiefection to Kasele ae tied) RABORID MUSTAPHA, The Londen Morning Post, pretending to have ive sources of information, states that the Ras treope ml! ve withdrawn from the Principali- wm the first week of gad ao} thst soon at tyrwsrda the fleets will from Besika bay. Simi- Ins slalements were quite current. and the meroantile of Britain were wore tranqauilized on the sub- of the Bast than they have been from the bogin- of ihe dispute. Belgrade, a letter of July 20th mentions ‘Bat the Prevod sud Boglbh Consuls had demanded few the two Hospodars an explanation of their Sefea] to pay the tritute to the Porte. The Mie confinea shemsetves to replying tbat they ‘Were woable to vend the tribute to the Saltan, bo- swe the (nancial resources of the country were exbausied by supplymg the Rassians with provi- Steve and stores, ‘They added that if tae econpation ved mech longer the inhabitants of the Prin- Sates 3 to pay their e| Obreveviteh much talked of at Belgrade. The Prinee is a grolézé of Rusia, aud bas token the opportunity of would be Guabie for y %. The circular of Prince Mi mx en ting in Servia the draft of a constoution whieh wo uld adopt if called to govern that country, Pressa, weitiog from Bel- Me correspondent of the @pado, ys that the Prince's iwiguey are not re- with favor by the Serviana. A Vienna dea- thud.” Oxwetantinople advices of July 26h say:—‘The ustrla sod America eneine: it wil! give rise to some @isagreeaole | @s pWeations, it is feared. iu respect to the refugee M. de Brack is alf ef the present difi- to raise some peevniary and territorial ques wea trancaction betw ‘tien, Moreover, our ‘Mediu ter, ried to have availed hime with the Porte.” ‘The French fiect at Besika Bay had been reia- | Bared by the ships Jeoa aud Austerity. Metta from Tel from Teftis, of July 15, anconave that Rus | @e ie preparing 2 new expedition avainst the Cir | qpeians, %0 be ready before the end of August The Tamed forces are to be supported by a flotilla, wWaieh is boing armed in the sca of Azolf. There bas been Tench excitement observed i1 Cirtass’s since the @BPrencen between Russia and the Porte. J Bayptian government had authorised the of ehapels for the Greek form of worship in The Czar hed ordered that yas parts of Mzyyt. the bigher ednoxtional establistments for civi- im Rassia, the Greek language shall be taught the modern Creek proneaciation. For the | will have 4. sefticient , therefore, Nichol. Bamber of sivil servants to carry oat his designs in | Geeece and Tirkey. Some of the London paper publish, in the shape ef a telegraphic despatch a Constantinople, of ‘st, that the Porte had addressed a mani- to the nation; that the finan :es were ina la- Mmatable cendition; that the Russians had taken saion of the Post Oifice, &., all of whieb is s nearly 2 raouth old. Nafiz Pacha, formeriy Ottoman Minister of France, Ged on the 27th alt. Mhe Paris correspondeut of the London Tincs ‘wittes a6 fellows upon the subject:— “Paais, Avgust L1—5 P. M. B appesrs that, thoogh no styulation wes insert @ mm the Vieona note to the Maperor of Raszia 2 the evacuation of the Danubian P: = the ebject was disen, the represeptatives 01 Tawar proposed by either Praz by both, that a clanse proposisions in ques eau evacuation of the pr @eubts of good faith might give the offence which Wey onght to avoid; thet no pretext should We giveo the Emperor to make a reply in He negative. and, in a word, that it was pro pot to pave even the appearance of wupporing that, would not toke L4, @mvinced by the reas of the mediating power, aad did not press the imerdon of @mly then by implication, as [ am dssun fersbury in t speciile p he moment reat it. These instenoth: Teast on the part of Rog most positive kind, and Aalay, if orders for th 0 ot at one f @rangement proposed. 1618 busied Wat a private telecraphi Deen received fron Vieuna, daz that news I give the fact as announced, eb for ite correctness. bted that, eo far as the Porte waa cerned, no PMenities won!f be fornd in the way. At the same i a ation of the Denublaa out beiog able to ‘The Const tut onwel, of Paris, published upon the Ieth inet, bas the following vigorous article upoo @e question, in which the comments npon the Par. Bamentary régime of England are uot yery complir mentary :— “Phere is something really mervellous ia the Parliamentary régime. Memoors of Parliament ime, bnt often to say nothing. y speak the less is understood = reat ide: , the more ‘Mee lees information is imparted. Thue, we defy the meet sagacions and clearsivhted t explain to them- | @etyes the language of Lord John Rassell in the House ‘ef Commons, and the speech of Lord Clarendon in fhe Howse of Lords. ft wae naively imagined in Parie that the interpeliations announced in the Rs; Parliament would Le the developement and ation of the telewraphic despatch ia the Moni- Ber of Sunday lart. Bat now that the pudiie has a Beli repor! of thene !nterpellations Jt is somewhat lew mdvanee) than before in tke knowledge of the real Mate of aiftirs in the Kast. We kuow not whether She cabicet of London hos taken the commerce of ‘We city for another HAipos, and whether, \ike anew Bobinx, it has proper to itself to xrve o riddle to be qeessod. But it has at all events sneceeded in makin; och 4 tangled web of the Hartern question, that it would he difficult to seperate the threads were we mot to eal! to our aid common pense, happily leas ob- wevre than the dan; of Parliamentary oracles. and invreover public opinion ip France haa now for ‘Me guile in the Seid of conjecture the imperial de- @ee elevating the Miniter of Foreign Affuira to the @Bgnity of a Grand Crow of the Lagion of Honor, in sonside ration of his emin ervioes readered to the eonntiy in the Airecti plomatic affaira, This ‘te a justly merited distinction, and one tha! will be ded without reserve by all the friends of pean peace and netional hoate. Bot cectainiy Bothing can better demonstrate that the government ‘considers the Kastern question wttled. Jiowever, jn ee of Fogiand were aingn- Barly obecnrenpen the subject last Mon in both Bours of Partament. i a Here follows 2 tranalation of the debate. The ort ae then goes on “Tt is impossible to seo tn the silence and tho re Serve of Lord John Roseel) and Lord Clarendon any- fthing cise than a piece of tactics produced by the régime. We are M both oue and ctions, inevita- Weeesitios of the partin even of optnion that in th the other, inexactit ta aod contrad ele in replies made on the i to anaxpected Se: could be pointed cut. ns, whea Lord den say thot noiiag will concladed at y without the adhesion of tue governments of Vienns France and Hoyland, evidently bs turns inte a ques ‘Won of the future an act already aoomplialied Nothing tias, in tact, he done in Anetria, w the arent of the cabinets of Pariy and London. Bot that assent fs no longer to be piven it ie aeony the conventions of the Congress of Vienna, and the More 90, that it was the notes originelly drawn ap by As of these the two cabinets which served as the seme conventions. Lord J. Insel om his part ‘empremsed = himeclf incorrectly when he spoke of the wo notes from Vienna, saying that the de- qyereh of Angnet 3, dated from Bt Petersburg, plied to the firet and not to the second— re ate not two notes from Viennh. There 4 & proposal from Constantinople, which was aside, and a proposal from Vienna, soncerted Pexpatedy Aastria. " Western powers Vienna, in whieh they decided on arrangement to he propared of that conference ond the sense of the arrangement | were communicated to the cabinet at St. Pete: who ret ont the next morning, joation that the fimperor of Rnssta: Tay thus be given :—- rie on that eormnnt: iahed on Avgust $d, that he adhered to lete texsaf thi for Bt. Potereburg, it is not the adbesion of the Emperor Nicholas to the conditians of arrangement concerted at Vien four greet Western powers ia now ineured. There is concequently no doubt to be raised either en the city ur the character of the telegraphic despatch pobbebed by the Monitewr on Sunday.” above article is ahyned Amedée de Cesena. ‘The Paris Univers of the 10th inst, exys — “Ifthe hat inteltiyence is exact, the athir be- tween Russia and Turkey, or rather between Ras , is terminated, 2s it wasenly evident triumphs. The Sattan Se wow merely the tevant ef the Oxar, and for only | a short leare, the kingdom of Greece betomen the State of Monace of the Fuet Anstria falle to the noleet d Staie, and the other ving been sole to prevent ituis resait, learn that a pewer whieh appeared to be ovly a ri- val, already overtopoed them all. Russia is advans- ing sith a gitnt’s stride along the road which the fanite of Surope bave made easy for her. Bhe will stop a momen’, onty to again resume her foreard that her foress will be ots exetained. What neves- sity is there for ber that they shkoald be cor- cealed ? Coxstantineple was yestes it vew becomes ber meaus. Gooruede (regwlan) - sia and Europe. itwoold terminate. , THE DEBATES IN THE BRITISH PARLIA- warch Ste dees not luoked te and hee pre} iasia obtains all the war, because Europe loves peace well, Bussia belongs jy--she has a bead which commands and is @ = meovarchy, which «bey—she whilst in the reet of the world there are, uader diferent names, only republics 1 She desends nel- ther om chapmes, nor writers, nor spesalatora at of the 10th, states that on important memoer Raursian embary had left Vienna ca a soecial muhhalon to Belgrade; if further eays:—" Rassia insists @@ the strict neutrality of Servio. The party op- }d to the government of Pricce Alexander Kara- Eee (known as the Russian pary) is to be Her ministers, ambasendors, and gen nde invested in foreign eountries, and » aubont their own firauess causing the vente to give way. Such are the reasons why Raia | advanees and the others yield. She arrives at Oon- withont fiving 4 shot, in spite of Wurope, 2, Fieb in ships, learned in tactics, bnt who wil! not consent to make certridges ont of the ud Livre. Bach a conqnest. « complished, sitews Russia not to put any bo An old and prude: ih glory, woul! allow itself “ be io- in great suceess. To what pitch of the Russian to ascend, nation, ao] al- = | had co-operated with the Frenoh for that end at an | that he bad virtues. barian, is the wupil of modern policy and civilization. all bis own vices—be has taken Here he is erown ap, and his education is finished. Modern poliey and civilization are sboat te find the efievts o1 itt onne?, writing upon the same sub- ject, August U1, thos refers to the peave declare tion ef Napoleon, upon bie aecession to the It is the Pmperor of the French who. the first, outaneously, listening only to the dietates of duty, ced the qcestion on the ground en which it has now been solved. Judging in advance the proceed- ings of Rugsia as all Ecrope has since jadged then, Napoleon 11}. seat the ticet to Salamis, within the reach of the Froach ambassador, | task of supperting existing treaties, the sovereignty of the Sulmn. That act of March pontaneons, and ordered on his own » &8 oveht to be all the resolations h good senee, justice, and daty command. The | other cabliets, s’ruck with that bold and decided | step, studied more closely the question, aad soon be- | held the matier throngh their interesta as the | perer Napoleon bad seca it with his prin, | England was oneasy for ber supvly o! | ber route to In in the East, of wh’ | aatery; Prussia for | and thus hy little | of resistance to just crowned ju #0 happy @ manner. - , this solution appertam to all; but the glory of it belongs more particularly to France. Oa the othe: the ancient union of Austria, Prussia, and ud the immense preponderance of the ond Berlin, are well known. wok Anstria and Prussia to come over to the side of France aed Bogland, shows clearly what their goveroments to decide on a step 59 Resolations matured with 30 much prudence, snd executed with so much mode- ration and firmuess, merit the greatest confidence, wie the greatest sincerity. were veceseary to decide the Ki ‘miperor of Anstria to resist tha These reasons cov! ouly be | tof their people and the general | pendence and security of nations, | wking, and gainiog strength on the faith | soleson treaties. on Of the four great Wester coprequently to be prevents oor bh rolve pacifically the question of | serve tosolve the unforeaven difficn | tore. Now, if any one only throws his mind baci | about eight mouths, it appears to vs, that the } Sults from that comparison of the present time | that other period so little distant from us a spectacle | | which history will point to, and which seems to pre- | raze to France exceedingiy gloriou Napcieon, yieKiing to the cuthusiasti grateful pooulation of France, had | vote the re-establishment of the Empire, and eight millions of Frenchmen—the greatest number of | them merried men and f | etored to him the crown 2 In presence of that royal faraily, wi k by the free suffrage of afree t Austria, tor her comineree | Parlisment—namely, thet of not making communi- of violence, which peace hag | The results of | be inop- cumstances, | hand y © offend the | grave and 60 novel. } because they del possiblity, the evaeuation The representatives were clanse. ft i¢ | d, that that Bart of the question is tonched on in the note. It ‘was, however, agrred that the governments should that afier having served to | East, it may } nd and France, are of the li be acted upon without vat i the Principali- aeceptance of despatch has | me of baving had anything to do with these attaska. | aanonne. te ld ‘owe, however, have | of famities—had re- he scoptre of his dy- | of mny noble friend in the other house, that there wa: ‘ ‘j , | nothing in the the French ygevernment that was incensisteat with the dignity and honor of this country. But Teannot | | admit that my noble friend Is entitled to claim the , | entire credit of having established tnese Sriendly re- | lations with the Freuch government. He hastaiked | oa if between this government and that of France | tain degree of meturiry before recog not that there monarchies, and fo | most powertul of the three, were not n | the eminent merits and marked eervice: of the new | | Emperor; he had too vikibly saved Fraoce and Ku- | Tope from anareby, for any government to be nbie to | rhut its eyes to his pradence and conrage. | @ great length of time they bad, as it were, possessed | the monopoly and tradition of the monarchic relative to the conseq: which the presence of @ Napoleon on the scene of the world ought to have, with a reserve and a 6 ess important motives would perha, That delay, that reserve, , had besides a signification perfectly they said, ‘Can we reckom surely on on at Bordeanx, that the Empire is peace? Will you be faithful to the treaties made our dynasty, and which France lesa ap- proved of than submitted to? And under the ont- the law, and of coueral se mand trouble that ¢” Certainly it would have been dly the career of agitatiou, to anatoh ‘ons of men from the mov hideous raise up the government, to stranzthen ratiou, and t> consolidate coufidence. ments more clewresightad and more Sardinia, Sweden, ved in the mat- } between the two countries. Now, in the first place, | | Twould remind my noble friend. and they pondered, ; | lordships’ recollection—what bas been the policy of . | ing betveer us were of a nature | and intimate that they formed the subject of | congratalation in the speech from the throne. | bave rendered exceaive. ward garb of order, cl ,» la itnot ee than another; bat it was the ¢ ment, becanse it was the man‘ist izterest of this aT me—were noe decel bot if Napoleon LiL, supported by his comaciance of Frauce, und of « part of d those Levitations to gradually replying to them, the answer wi en, without precipitation, {n a deci. sive ciroumsuece, wil show that the sentiment of right, respoct for engagements, and the tewlition of coprervative and honorable principles, era not io ¢ the exclusive patrimony that there ison this head a certain new dynasty which will yiuld in nothing to the most ancient. A letter from the Turkish camp at Shanala, dated the 1th of July, says: The day before yesterday, Ower Pocha gave orders that 40,000 mea should he amembled 24 soon as possible at the following three places, Tuhla, Sexfter and Maciur, for the defence of which is to be erected on an island i between Valcia and Jemail.” vint will not fail he Massians, and and by the testimony Earope, nilowe | to vay, hax egain then fully explel ut i# about to poblish a mant- tain general, and bear- ; en constracted for the Ivi Bonrnon,on the I: Chronicle, writing from ets re fe e whole of this Bavtera questiun, the most inti aod cordial may obness say di | or eight battalions) bax croased the Prot>, and that the | tar Bem of ene os: division, two bave erased; 90 that the whele force in the priosipalitics, on paper, 3 4 % e “” #9 650 1 a Dtv's. Feor'h Corpe.. .. 1 FH) Corps ...... 1 4 4 Ham..... ‘Fota),. Giving, eovsequestiy. » total of 77,000 combatan ip round nombere, wita 144 field pieces, which, with non-cembetanta, officers, and beads, will bring the smeent to nearly the raza cipher—that is, 80,000, (which is given in the St Petersburg acecunt) MENT. Tn the Houre of Lerés, upon the night of the 12th inst., ‘The Ear] of Maramapuny waved for 9 eopy of the manifestoes published ‘n the St Petersburg Gazelle by the Emperor of Rusia, and for the anewers re- turned to thore deewments by the British govern- ment ‘The noble earl then proeeeded to review the eanres which bad Jed to the attitude assumed by Reetia op the present occasion—an atiitude whieh he arveribed in 2 great measure to the tone adopted by @ portion ef the English press towards the Bmperor of the Freneb. In ooneeqnence of the oblogny cast by theee papers on g French allfanoe, the Wmperor | Roseia and bis advisers bad believed that no cordial eoeperation was to be expected between France and England. and the belief was strength- ered, after Lord Derby resigned office, Py the speeches made by Sir James Graham and Sir C. Woed against the Emperor of the Freneh, aud final- ly veceived its complete confirmation in the tien of the British fleet, while that of the Preneh was des- patched to the Archipelsgo. As fer se he himvelf was concerned, be had been always the warm adho- rent of the French alliance, avd, as he believed the molutenonce of the Othman Empire was casential to the balance of power in Europe, he wished that we earlier pene He thought it also humiliating that, vesian manifestors and French notes had been published, no reply had appeared from the British government. The Far) of CLanenvon in reply, said—My lords, I certainly was net prepared, when my noble iriend ve me hotice of question he was going to put, for £0 loog a speech, yery interesting certainly, bat still so ng. and consisting of 90 many narratives 99 wy noble friend has given. There are parts of hig speech which Lhope he wil uot think me diseour- teous if i decline to foliow. My noble friend has laid down various propositions which no one wonld think of disputing, and be bas also made allusions end etatewente whieh, inthe present state of affairs, I think it my pte duty not to notice, for the same reason thai I have heretofore refused to answer them; and I assure my m ble friend thai i. is very painfal to me te have to give the same antwers to questions overeand over. ageia, snd to declice | to lay before your jorésiups all the imforma- | tion that your lordships the country have the rigbt to expect, to remove the state ‘of anx- fons suspense that has so long lasted, which ine | terferes with the business transactions of the coun- try, and which has led to feelings of impatienee and indignation, And I assure my noble friend that it is | with great reluctance, and from nothing but a sense | of public duty, that] still adhere to that principle which has been the principle of all former govern- mepta of this coun'ry, and has been sanctioned by cations while Le Saag are pending, and 67 uot laying before Parliament separate despatches or por- tions of despatches. (Hear.) Bat with respect to | the answer to that circular to which my noble friend | has agein alluded, [assure hire that it 5 in argament the came, and in tone not Jess firm and moderate than the note of the French government, of which he haa expressed bis satisiection. And itis, a8 Ihave anid, nothing but a sense of duty that prevents me g myselt the satisfaction of ig bad that ansver on your jordehips’ teble. Bot her Majesty’s government are anxious to do and say nothing that can impede ty peaceful solution of this embarrassing question; | (ebeers,) for our object—end it must be tha of your jord-hips—is the maintenance of peace; bat peace, as [have said before, consistent with the national honor and the national faith, and therefore with the bational interests. (ilear.) Por, mySlords, { aia | Fore her eee government would itl represent | the feelfogs of the country, and they could not rely | tren eny support from your lordships or from tie public, i peace were purchased on any other terms. | in one portion of my noble friead’s speech, with re- ference to the alliance with Vrance, he has reviewod the circumstances that might have influenced, and next the reasons that may have inéneed, the hm of Rassia to take the course he did. My noble friend began with a full review of his policy daring the | time he was himeelf in office, against which I an | not prepared to say anything. He has alluded to | the abure which has beerf directed against himself | vith | by the press. I think it is @ little ont of time | and place in him to allude to such matters on this | eceasion, (hear, bear), bot) am sure he will acquit | (* Hear, hear,’ froin the of Malmesbary). I can only ray L very much regret many of those at- | tacks ageivst my noble friend. I beheved them to | he wjurt at the time, and I have fonnd them tobe | upjust since ; and I entirely agree in the statements | lations between my noble friend and | there had always existed a state ot hostility, if not | more, and that the idea had first struck him that it | would be very dedrableto put an end to the strife | nd Tam io your this country with France, The relations exist- endly He might have seen, end Tam sure when in office he must have seen, atple evidence of the desire of thia country to be on the most frieudly terms with | France, whaterer the government of that conntry, | whether t was a United monarchy, a republic, or the imperial form: under which they now Live. Thero always haa been exactly the same feeling, and [ do nut say it to the credit of any one goverament more y of every govern- conntry to maintain the most friendly, cordial, and intimate relations with France. That the attaoks of certain newspapers—becanse 1 do not spprohend they all joined in such attacks—but that the attacks of certain newspapers upon my noble. friend for having labored to maintain these relations, have posuoed any effect in the manner he supposes on. he mind of Himperor of Russia, is what I really cannot belive, any inore than J can believe that his mind has been influenced, or that his policy to- winds Turkey has been ded, by the “two speeches to which a noble friend, I am sorry alluded. I think that tala allnsion was perfectly unnecesmry. I do not think that those specches haye led to any resulta stich a8 he bas atiibuted to them. It is a bygone sory, sad I cannot congratulate my noble iriend upon having again bought it. forward. Those epoeches, my lords, 1 am certainly not here to de- fend, Ove of them, as my noble friend knows, was delivered at a ope Meeting, without any reference © Franes, aol 4 an ilnstration how universal saf- frage might lead t results diferent from those attzi- bated to it, without any thought of the Freach Em- peror of the I'rench etapire. The other spaoch was delivered at a mere private mecting, eqnally without thovght or reflection of the feeling that it might create. At the mosting of Parliament this seasion the matter wae brought by the noble marquis (Claa- ricarle) onder the attention of this House. Ii was od by the noble cart at the head of the government in this House, and equally natisfac- tonly explained, and | may say, apologized for, in the other House of Parliament. J believe that my noble friend (the Maryuia 6: Clanricarde) expressed himeolf patiefied with th janation then given, and I know that the same feeling existed in th Honse. And] may say, to th c of France, that if ey; h cirenmeatances, as I 1 oken, and the thing lod as nom avon, And I do not thiok that my noble friend will find many to share his opinion, expressed in bringing theso speeches forward, that they had anything to do with the notion that Engtand and Prande would not act togeth ‘Dat 't world fore be rate for the Bx ia own polley T have, my “ion, stated to your lord r vordial the alli- ance between France and England hag hecw J re | communication between the two government. On every important proceeding there has never exlstes any material diffrenve rd opieion. They ook tae fame view of the policy to be adopted, and there has been complete unity of action between them in the course thas has beep pursued. assaraa va ccs that beve been given to the public of both covo’riea, and with ose manifestations whieh have also been given of thie wnauimity, aod wh! are pew betove the world, it weald be impossible for the Empcror of Russia, if his poliey ia the Best had any reference to the alliance of France and Bax land—it rovst bave been impossible for hun to be- Meve that that alliance did not exist, and was not sincese, and thatit would not be brought to act ia avy way in which those governmeota might, deter mee. (Hear) The next point to which my noble friend alluded, a9 baving influenced the Empernr of Ph II Peg ejesty’s government red to 8 wards Turkey during the miksion of Prince Leiningen. ‘This qnestion has abo been brought forward, and I gave explanativos at the time, whieh your lordsbips theughs eatiefactory. We were in communication with the Austriem government on the subject. We éid not fail to aak for full explanations relative to tho mission ef Prince Leiningen, whieh explana tions, L must say, thee was no dis‘uclination to give. ‘The Austrian government said that the expedition to Montenegro was carried on vpon a very large seale, contrary to the advice given by the allied powers st Covstantineple, so as to endanger the reenrity ef all the provinces of that part of the Austrian empire—ihat she bad every reason to a9- prehend that there would be a rikiug of her people, sud that ber frontier would be in danger. | Under | dhere eiroumetances, Austria sent a misalon two the Porte, t request that thin expedition of Omer Pardo should be pnt an ond to, and tw repre- sent that although she did not mean to dispute the authority of the Sultan over the Montenégrins, bot merely the mavner in which his authority was exer- ches, yor that such a contest xing on in the terri- Jory of aveighboring power was dangerous to her weir, With respect to the retreat ef the Turkish army, lam not aware that any stipulations were violated. AST found was, that 1,600 or 2,000 mea were afterward? esptured, even after the Saltin had given orders for withdrawing his force. Tier Majes- ty’s government were in constant communivotion with Austria to jnsure the fall completion of the terma of the stipulations that no injury should be done to the Turkish authority. I have reason to be- lieve that thete stipulations were carried ont, aod that the efforts made by the Anstrisn governmeat in thot direction were quite satisfactory. Tae next point to which wy noble friend alladed, as a proof that the French and Wnglish governments were not acting cordially together, and that +hts agaia must have influenced the Ruselan goverameat, was, that at the time the English floet was sent for by Colonel Rose, the French fleet sailed from Toulon, while oors did not leave Malta. I have said before that Colonel Rese ¢id write to Admiral Dundas under the frat impression and exeitement produced by Prince Meneebiko 's arrival—at'ended by certain eihcgtaatneea to which my noble friend hes alluded, although not correctly. Prince Menechikoff did not ask for the dismisealof the Turkish Minister for Fo- Teign Affiirs. He did nothing more than has been apbounced by the Rassian government. He sent in a note, saying thatthe late Minister having been the instrument by whore conduct the viclation of the pro- ices given by the Sultan to the Emperor had ac- curred, he was determined not to intrast any negotia- tions shyougb that channel. When Prince Menachi- koff went tr the Sultan, therefore, he segvened that the correspondence should be sent through the Grand Vizier, oF any other Minister. Prince Menschikoff did not call upon Fuad Effendi, and he was dit miesed; but his diemiseal was not asked by the Rus- tian government. Swill, Prince Menschikotls arri- val, under the circumstances, did produce a great deal of excitement in the minds of the Turkish yo- vervmept, and Colonel Rose did write to Admiral Dandas, not exactly to come to Constantinople, bat étating that he understood the fleet were about to take their summer cruise to the East, and recom- mending that bis departure from Malta shoald be bas- tened by eizhtor ninedays. Admire! Dundas did not comply with that request, and when,a few diys ofter, things became peaceable, Col. Rose expressed his satisfaction that the fleet bad not come, and his belief that had reentts would have followed bad it done po, and that the negotiations then being carried on with the Russian ambessador might have taken a hostile course. On the news of the English fleet being sent for by Gols Rove reaching Paris, by the bite ra orders were given for the French ticet to go to the Salamis. This was done without consnita- tion with our government. Jt was done on the spur of the moment, the French government believing that tne danger was imminent. L{owever, the order was given, ond when the French government com- municated this order, we frankly told them that the danger did not appeac to us to be so imminent, and | that at thet moment we did ‘not think it necessary that our fleet should leave Malta. But the Frenc! goverbiment said that under the circumstances—and ce in ovr relations— Toulon peing ‘alta, if danger did occur, and the tro fleets were wanted, they would be ina and more handy for action and better able to arri at Constantinople together, an 1 toast in combination, if one were at Salamis and the other at Maite. We entirely agrecd tu this, and tre circumstances did not hrow a single shade of @ ’s governme: enh tleet should be 89 the English fleet, and the resalt has << | proved that when the fleets were wanted to proceed to Bosika Bay, instractions were agreed upon on the same day ot Paris and iu London, and despatched the same telegrap! ia 2 few hours of i ot Besika Bay, whieh e i been at Toulon and the other at Malta, ‘That circumstance never prodiced the slightest difference, or shade of difference, het ween the two governments. My noble friend says th ainly wus 2 difference between | the two ¢ « that influenced the Emperor of Roseia in policy he pursued towards Turkey. I cannot dive into the mind of s»y man further than | Iny noble friend, but I will merely soy that the aswu- rances that were given to us were the same as thoee given to my noblefriend, although they went further, beconse the Russian government gave us general as- scrances, and also more particnlar assurauces, as to the objecte songht by Rosia inthe East. Nosovercign could have given more solemn or more secred asvu- sof r ct for existing treaties, and for the gements of Europe. The peror of i® Hever hesitated to ray that he considered the Maintenance of the Turkish empire as a great prin- ciple of Puropean policy, and that for that purpose he would yield to none in his desire to mainta!n the indepeudence and integrity of Turkey. (iHear.) The Russian government has, on more than one vooa- sion, agreec with Her M ‘y's government that the dismemberment «f the Tarkish empire would be a great Huropean calamity, that it would lead un- questionably to war, and that it could not be settled without great disturbance to the existing balance of (gated in Europe. Under these cireumstances the aesian Lape ole Fent’Prince Menschikoif to Con stantinople, not as my noble friend says, when the question of the Holy Places was retiled, because it was not seted. {t may haye been settled in the French senso, Imt that makes all the difference; and it was on that account that the Emperor of Russia rexisted the settlement. He said that those privi- Jegzes had been transferred to the Latins, which heretofere had been given to the Greeks—that this was a ation of solemn promises made to fh ; that it was impairing his moral iniluence, as he does, a high and elevated position k church; and that it not only icpaired his indcence over those who professed the Greek faith in the Turkish dominions, but that it reacted prejudicially upon himsetf over his subjects tn his own dominions. He therefore considered that it wos absolutely necessary that the question shoald be set right. I must eay that, from first to la with great respect towards the Frenvh gov he eaid he would not seck to deprive the the advantages they thus gained, although at his own expense: but that he would seek from the Turkish = povernment some equtvalent, and he should require that that: equivalent shonld be se- cured to them, notas before under a firman, which experience had shown him conld be violated, bat by some explanatory act ofa more binding charac- ter, which} shonld igi future disturbance, Therefore, my lords, this mission was ondertaken, not, as my noble friend says, after the question was settled, but ‘a3 undertaken for the purpose of set- tling the question, and it was not at first so,very oaxl- ly settled. Varions conferences took place. ‘The Kus jan unbassador and the French ambassador had to meet varions times upon it, and it was at net malnly adjusted by the friendly intervention of my noble friend her Majesty's Ambassa- dor at Constantinoplo, who, ‘this country being tnintercsted in the question, was en able As amicus curiae, Bygthe advice he n was setUed in & manner satixfa: nd his servi ses wore acknowledged by the Austrian, and the Rnavian governments. Jt was only alter thls that, on the ith of May, certain farther propositions were made by the Rossian government— propositions certainiy of which we had, until that time, no idea. did not knoe that proposals which amointe to little less than a protectorate, that any such pro posals would be made; and we not wanaturaliy up- poved-—haring off cindy rocelved the assurance that Prince Mensehikoff had o very wide latitude in his instructions te conclede the matter in any way he thought proper—IJ say, we not nanstarally anpposed that this first proposal of his was an attempt t n a8 mich aa he bly contd, with an intention to take leas ifthat was offered. And so it tumed ont, because this convertion was ebjected to, aed my no- ble friend, the British amhassarlor at tineple, pointed oot to him what would be ite practival_ope- ration, supposing itto be agreed to: Prince Men Faccordingly gave itup. He next proposed ro~3 ened, Which ie equivalent to And in this I must beg to say that, throughont the whole of the negotiations, althergh T did not allade to the joint action of the French government, | mast beg your lordships to urderstand that in nothing have we taken a step without consa’ting the Preach government. (Hear) There ave been nogot a- tions almost daily; by despatches or by tele, questions have heen asked, and answers immu sent, in order that there shorid not exist any tion of policy; and nothing was the French ernment more united with us thaa in net considering this as a cosws belli, Moreover, we found that the | before the governments ot t tan asa means of settling the differences. These moditications were, in the first instance, referred to London and to Paris. They were approved by her Majesty’s government and by the French govern- ment, and the note was sent to St. Petersburg and to Constantinople on the second of this month, The Russian minister at Vienna bad meanwhile trans ment favorable, a8 a! ing a prospect of a peacea- ble termination of the question. taming its ey § ed; to, ak s Protea, Tht, also, was eae fe, a ‘first dart) & form of nie, which the Sultan bh proporal; apd theo Prince proposed, 1y. ated to alvo, and which, too, was withdrawn. I mit eay that throughout the whole of these negotia- tions it wasn matter of retistaotion to her Mujesty’s government that the combined fleets had not passed the Dardanelles, because pobody could say that the ‘Turks bed not acted in a perfectly free and indepen- dent manner, guided only by what they considered to be their own intefest, and because all pretexts were taken from any to say that the Turks ted under prereure other governments. On 224 of May Prinee Mensehifitt let Constantino ple. I haere doubt that the passage read by my noble friend trom bw valedictory letter (a |: ) i correct, and I thipk, if it ie correct, my noble friend derignated it rightly, for sueh language as that is fortunately very rare in diplomatic corres,ondenee, and J hope it will long pea an exceptior yenersl rule. (Hear) You 4 thet after Prince Mensobikoff had quitted Const nople, a note waa sent by Count Nesselrode to eehid Posha, asking him to accept wil eight day the note of Prince Menschikoff. Redachid Pasha declined, although In the most courteuns man- ner, and then, in purenance o? the authority which that letter contained, the principalities were occupied. | certainly have not the least hesi- tation in ssying we bave looked upon that as a yielation of existing treaties. (Heer.) Although, however, my noble friend blamed the government for the line of e2nduct pursued by them upon the oc- eupation ef the principalities, I do not intend now to enter upon a defence of that part of oar policy, for a sence of public duty does not permit me to We might certainly bave recommended the Sultan to have acted upon that which was unquestionably & casus belli. (Hear, hear.) [have not the least doubt that we might, if we had thought proper, ad- vised the Bokan to treat the occnpation of the print patities a8 a casus be —to suspend existing treaties, and ask for our protection, We did not, however, think it advisable to de ao—not because we did not eorsider it te be a casus belli, but because we thought it was facambent upon us in the first place to do all that in ws Jay to avoid the chances of war (hear); and we thoogbt, having to appeal to the people of this country, that we should not cowe with a guod grace to them. unless we could show that we bad exereised and exhausted every effort to maintain an bonorable peace. (Hear) It was upon these grounds that, upon the mere occupation of the prin- cipatities, we did not recoramend to the Sultan to €: ercise bts undoubted and unquestionable right of tw the i tordebins are also aware reating that act, as it was, a5 an act of war. instructions we rent te our Ambassador at Consta tinople to this effect crossed the despatches wh were coon afterwards received from my noble friend, stating that such hed been the view of tre Porte, and that such had been the advice be hid given to the Porte. (Hear, bear) I certainly was wut pre- prec to enter into this question as folly as { have | en led to do bythe (ae of my noble friend, (the | Jar} of Malmesbory,) bat still 1 have been most de- sirous to put your lordsbips as far as 1 can in posses- sion of the information which both your lordships | and the country at Jorge must be anxious to pos: | fess, Although negotiations are still pending, I will not hesitate to state to your lordships by what steps | thore negotiations have arrived at their preseat stage and whatietheir prosent position, and fumsure, when I do so, my noble friend must be at once con- vinced, looking to the forbearance and ,moderation ch he has hitherto exereised, gad bearing in | is aware from late: experience of the extent of ministerial responsibility in these matters— Jam sure, { aay, he will understand that a more full discussion of sich matters will not now be desirable. It wes after the note of Count Nesselrode had been | rejected by. the Porte, and after the principalities had | been occupied, that the opportunity seemed then to have ariren when mutaal friends might treat the mat ter a& haying entered into a new phace. It had then certainly, by the ocenpation of this portion of the Turkish territory, and in contravention of existing treaties, assumed a European character, which im- ced upon other powers the necessity of interfer ing in some Way or other to put an end to such a stale of things. e mediation of Anstria was offered. Whether it was asked for or not, or offered without being atked for, I don’t exactly know; I ouly know it was acted upon. The Austrian government made a | mort fair and reasonable pi ‘ition, saying to the Porte: “You have rejected this note; furnish us with such a note as we may send to St. Petersburg—some- thing which shal! be safe to you, and not unaccepta- | ble to the Emperor of Russia. Furnish us with such a note as that, and we will agree t end it to St. Vetersburg, and support it when there. ini terial crisis and other canses, whieh at this moment it A iminis- Tam unable to explain, caused delay nople, and the Aurtrian governmest, fore: ig the very great dangers that would ariee from delay, call- ed together the representatives of the other powers— the ministers of France, England, and Praseia—and proposed to take a6 a basis the note which had origin- te withthe French government, which, with some bt modifications, the: perpeees, should be laid e Emperor and the Snl- the substance of thisnote to his court, where it was well received, and on the 3d of this month a telegraphic messege was sent trom St. Petersburg to Vienna,announcing that that note met the Emperor's views, and would be accepted by hin if it met with the views of the Sultan. Since thet time I have heard this morning that Count Nesselrode has made to Sir Hamilton Seymonr an official commonication that that note wonld be duly accept- ed by the Emperor, (Hear.) As this note, slightly. modided, no doabt, originating as it did with the Freuch government, contains nothing derogatory to the dignity or to the independence of the Porte, I can see no difiiculty in accepting it. Your lordships will see, without going into more details upon the subjects which my noble friend has brought under your notice, I have ¢ndeavored to place your lord- ships in possession of the information which is most important in this matter. You will now sce that, al- though these negotiations may be certainly said to be brought to the point of a satistactory conclusi they are still, pending, and therefore my object, an that of ber Majesty’s roveroment, is, while these ne- gotiations are pending—while, therefi nek of their not coming to the satisfactory sion which all hope for—to abstain from a mo sens-fon of this subject, t abstain from laying be re your lordships eny papers—includiog the papers moved for by my noble friead- stain, in fact, from doing or saying an, i Which might endanger the solution which, as i Bal Tam sure your Jordships feel the government de- sire. (Hear, hear.) d before, Lord Bracmonr expressed his dissatisfaction at Lord Clarendon’s statement, aud wished that the government had acted more vigorously in the Kaat- ern crisis. The Earl of Hanowickr complained that the goy- ernment had not afforded much insight into tho suite of affairs. The Marquis of Crarrtcanm: thought the state- Lord ELLixsoaover regarded the position of affairs with great apprehension, but did not see how matters would have been mended by a hostile de- monstration. The Karl of Argnnrey, after admitting thot in the present state of affairs it was nataral for noble lords to desire to have accurate inforraation relative to events in the Rast, proceeded to say—Upon that point | feel convinced that my noble friend near me (the Barl of Clarendon) has made snch a statement 83 onght to satinfy the expectations of noble lords. He has given, in substance, the fallest statement of the actual condition of affairs, and has doue it in such 4 manner a4 must have afforded sincere sath faction to your lordships. My noble friend who has juct sat down has given some very good advice on this eps and expressed opinions in some of which opinion of that iIhustrious duke, of whom, as woll a5 tay noble friend, I was a colleagne in the govern- entirely concur. He has referred to the ment, having the special direction of the foreign af fairs of the country. Tagreed with the noble duke at the time, mid ever since have folt the same con- viction that a close intimacy with France was the real policy of th'a country. (Hear.) I felé that io the the of (barles X.—f felé tt under Lonis Pit | Nppe-—and J feol it now, (Hear.) I bave no donbt thot if there be ony government in, France with which we can int engagements, which is so solid and so established aa to be capable of umin- , agement, that government, be it re+ publican, be I imporial, or be it royal, is a govern. ment with which we onght closely to connect ow selves, (Hear, hear.) That has been the conray which we have pursned throughout the whole of these transactions. (Hear, hear.) It is true, a noble lord bebind me, and other, have expressed thelr firm conviction that if we bad bnt earlier taken vigorous and decisive measures, we should have put artop to all these Pdificnities long ago. Now it seems et easy to them to prognosticate after the event; but I fin have been the ease ha couree, All L can say is, that we shal! be feotly satisfied if the course wo have taken shall leod to & happy settlement. (Tear, hear.) 1 do not mean dH ta to say what might we followed a different toray that England a i France are not powerful enongh forany purposo ‘yey reny undertake; bul, at of no small importance to haw fod that 1s ter state ta which we t--pomely te four grest powen concert, sj rakiog the rame lan . and making the sae cuditions, which my lordship. have alread: and a » three, concerned jn preserving the sub-tautial intogrity 6 Turkey. (tte noble earl made also seme allesion & Prossia, which we did not distinotly the undersinee Mitts to ie * abs coant Bo eceentia} terested in that point othe eee Therefore, ft is hot iketp ee should be parties to ap, Bultan, to which be has any rea to avy terms which he would b (Bear, hear.) Your Jordships are aware country is bowud, not by any ire by ¢ treaty to take part fi hostiliti ‘Turkesh empire—yet from a scuse of our al interests, and jrom a sease of what is, general interests of Europe and our own 4 are bound to support the in empire, your Jordthips may be satis the prent powers powers—are all equal; sacrifive on the vaty—for I deny tbs) | d that, interested Europe wre iz the preservation dependence of the integrity of th pire, it will be secure; and, w sult of existing negotiation way rest cone ey bien dae et ee honor of the nation will be jeopai é sacritied, by her Majesty ae ‘the Earl of MaLMEenun had publiched her answer, the: exoure for she English go the correspondence he aske the country the animus which had setuated then gh there was no tresty wh to deiend Turkey, yet Bn, by honor and by the preaw to ingintain the independe Torkich empire. He certainly er the laterest ould not press Ic m of which the gove thought would be injurious to the he should sher<fore withdraw bis motion, ‘The motion was according )y withdrawn, Tn the Honee of Commons, Mr. DisnaeL1 rose ar raid :—I take this opportanity of making inqnt with respect to a question which has been advert o already in the early part of this evening, namei to an account that has been received of the acoey ance by the Emperor of Russie of eertain 7 tions prereuted to him from what [ may al gress of the great power siting at V) noble Jord (J. Russell) b there papers will be Jaid on the table, or #i portunity will be afforded for oi-cussin, portant subject— (hear, hear month, ang the date of tlie mouth, Tam nots prised that the noble lord should have indulged I wish to know, consideri: , whether the noble natore of #he propor d by the Exeperer present ebate wh ont no proapact th, ° hus any objection to state tions whieh have been 2 Lord J. Rusewir—l can propositions dave been made to the Bupevar of Ri | sia. Before the prorogation of Parliament, howow 1 will give all the informatio with my duty. Iwill not n mation, bubstate at that tin d consisient with the tare of the pw. the moat importa the public prints at the Emperor | posaly which ha rent powers of F differences betwe k whetber the nel 2) Lord D. Srvant—A rom eharacter bas been ¢irculated sy: Lallade to the rumor t Russia has agreed to certaiu | been submitted to him by th rope for the adjastment of Russia aad Turkey. I wish to | lord can etate that there is ony troth ja that rom ond that we are now nearer to # pacific solution that question than we were a fi Lord J. Rvesrux—In ai Iny noble friend, I have to dation for the ramor to whic! hear)-—and that. we haye just from her Majesty’s Minister at Vienna, whith is of very eatisfactory noture. E yeceived from the court of Ba. | that there i4 a fou 3 alludea—(he; mersenger who was to have gone to Constantinop| and who, aa I gaid on a former occasion, woold }eal Vienna on tho Sist of July, did net actually leal Vienna until the 2d of August; 80 that the rej! le cannot be received as 200m, was at firat expected, 1 De Lacy Evays—Will the noble jord municate the promised information at auch a time will enable the House to discuss the question? Lerd J. Russitt—1 beg to exp! oid was that, L would give such infe sense of public daty; and I think thas it satisfactory that I ehould give that informgtion: 4, jatest moment before the prorogation of Parliame Mr. Layang—Am I to widerstand that there « (og of the question before the’ proruy Lord J. Roserur—As far oncerned, it is not th here should be a ditcassion. (Hear, bear.) the government §, on that it is desire: THY LATEST DESPATCAHS, The London Morning Chronicle of the 1) “We have received tho fullowing t graphic despatch, dated Constautinople, Aug. }:— ‘The Ottoman Porte has issued a manifesto ‘An uitithatom bas been addressed to Ruscia. ‘The French propositions will be destined—th of Austria accepted. 4 ‘The Russian anthorities in the fuse to forward letters through the baci Aare ate that a Rossian corps will re a Rossian en Servi, in which case the eventual entrance of “The Raseian Consul has Turkey is ta want of money.’ ”” Boowansst, Jaly 30, 1653 Prince Gortschakoff, Coromander-in-Chief Russian army in the pr nzipaliies, arrived here y terday, The Greek bishops cal'cd to pi i They conversed with the rotectorates of the Hi Sepulchre. Prince Gortschakoff created them w} greater kindness than he lad shown even to the Hi ted. left Adrianople, ie subject of the odars of Wallach tainty whether they will obey the by the Sublime Porte. In conseqt of tion of all intercourse between them and the Furic government, the British authorities in both = and Wallachia have ceased all relations ‘w OOoNnsTANTINOPLE, ‘The excitement was alarming. ‘Wallachia and Moldavia, who bed been sommeil to Consiantinople refused to obey. The news ]| duced such an effect upon the old Tai that rerious fears are entertained for the | Constantinople. Revolutions are imminent. August 6, 1953) wed through this town ches for Lord Strath} Redcliffe, in which his londsbip is inatrocted duce the Divan to accept tho pi trian mediation, which have aliva An 6, 1893) hie’ per ‘this m4) A British conrier has his way to Constantinople. the bearer of do: Vr A telegraphic despatch, w ing from ‘Trieste, confirms the news of the Subli led, without any mioditicatl m drawn up at Vienna by paty of i is to inform the Czar of Bultan’s decision, is to leave for St Petersburs| » shail bave been onic to evacuate the Principalities of the Danabe. Panss, Fripay moenina, Aug. 19, 1685] It is now alledged that the Saltan ont modification, the Vienna note, and traordinary ambassador, © bear tion of the Sultan to th Petersburg as soon ag the Russian troops shall bi juyaded territory. Porte having aco} the note which has four powers which si A special envoy, w! soon 98 the f to o Crar, will leave fc e order to qnit t! This acceptance is made The Sultan’s desires o the declarations of the irc . Feray Byes To-day the warket for pbite securities has by closing with firmn tendency. The Three and haying an upward r cach have ema yesterday's closing price For the account: Three per cents, fi)! rand-ahalf per Cents, 104% 60c.5; Banik sto fi The railway market has partichpated in the by ancy in Renies, and the shares of many lines by Northerns have risen 2f., P) and Orleans 18f., Lyons to the Mediterranean 1) and Rouen and Havre Weatern of France are unchanged; but Party {, Poris and Rouen 68, and J Credit Foncier Banc sb not undergone any ohange, hut Credit Mobil ig) They cloved, Credit Fonoier at 7 edit Mobilier, 871i, Svc, improved in value. aria aud Strashonps, Lyons have falle: deaux and Cette 2f, ‘ be Se Ang. 13, 166 Despatches tions Bt. Petersburg, dated the | ily conslema the At avd state that npted the propo have arrived In Paria, ment in the Post of Thurein Emperor hay detinitively