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- inf irr ere cre \ " . Did be mention the names of ny of those Q. Were any others in root, except S we Rasen ab Uaoh tend, ta cmmtotion wee the eras eighing te ater yousné A. It was after twelve o'clock, and it may have aed patie, ting Gent been seven in the evening. It was on Saturday, and tors had beon guilty of misconduct. This will ever of to their friends and ad- | the veil the: ond appropriating shele property berents in Paris, in which they recommended for- | thereto, yore a placing such nents under ifulness of the and union for the futu the s ision of inspectors, by govern- | remain on the journals of the ings of this | 1 don’t remember the hour. bill? " Sey dead es cileth pertinence Ce ment, or by ce thee aces aete the Hees Tics | Son apa it leroer Hiely teat it tee an Ee scaeh |. To that ail Cast "tock place on the Sst tater» | ud, Ido med remember. Q: Did you speak to any of those Senators sabe aseembled at the house of the Marquis do oer seem best calculated to put a stop tothe afore- | or obliterated, but remain through all time as a | view on Sat (Signed) S. A. Svypam. sequently, as to letting the letter go out of your t. The good Queen Amelie’s name was said practices. " i mirror for Senators, who shall ‘aiff the seats of those A. I believe so, George W. Bull, called asa witness in behalf of possession ? also made use of to influence her numerous aad de- Aud your petitioner will ever pay. heie at present, during the continuance of the State | _Q. What hour did he call on the next day, Sun- | Messrs. Robinson, Johnson, and Stone—sworn. A. I did not. = ee. In sheet, it ay if the 2 nee hips tong ERABLEY. sorecneel. sisiaieiats cw moneda day’ a itensasetiell ‘By Chairman.—Q. What conversation, if any, pe | bat el have 9 1, ne with Lye 9 was as complete as its most earnest /ERKELEY-Hovse, Spring-; lens. ¢ resolution dischargin, WwW. from t! . wi jusk. “ ii > y —after ire. oo office of Sergeunt-ns-Arins was unanimously adopted, | _(. State what took placeen that occasion at that | fag geylad."tah any of the Belech Committee In signed it—about itt iis: Messrs. Baring’s London Circular. time? . Unfortunately all these hopes are already van- with an audible aye; and Senators breathed freer, A. None, except to ask Mr. Robinson to let me A . I did not. Q. Did either of them ask youthe object youhad : 3 Er = Fy . The personal feelings and personal ambi- Lowvon, Friday, Maroh 21, 1851—5 P M. safer, ard easier, after having performed that wil- A. I then repeated my desire fora personal inter- | i i ead. Did eith tion of some of the nstors are too dvoply engaged | ‘The demand for almost every description of colonial | 10g duty. A resolution was oderod to thrust him | view with the committee. He asked me the object | “"Q" Hate let you kecw the day it was intro- | ™® laving it signed? in the question. A small but important section of | ynq foreign produce has been very limited this week, | int? priton until the close of the session, as an ad- | J had. J told him I wanted to be sutisfied that what | ducea? A. They did not. Lorre the reason when I re- ‘the Orkeanists, who would be atterly aanihilated 34 ditional punishment, but the Senate was not he was telling me was actually the case. Hetold| 4. No, quested it, that I wanted to show it to a friend whe the return of the elder branch, still bold out for , #24 for many articles lower prices have been accepted the cause of the Conte de Paris and the regoncy of | &* Will be seen Ly the evbjoined remarks, Cotton has’ the Duchess of Orleans. M. Thiers and some of , how:ver, been an exception, prices having rallied fully his friends are too deeply compromised by the atfair | 3,4, perth, By the arrival of the overland mail, to-day, poly Duchess of Bare, ay by their Cea ON | we luve reecived advices to the following dates :—Bom- for fuvor or merey from Saco yee. High! Chareh party; wud the | MY 25th, Calcutta 8th, Colombo 14th February; Can- Duchoes of Orleans herwif is said to ve still buoyed | ton 28th, Shanghae 14h, Batavia 27th, and Manilla 23 up with the hope that the day is not distaat when | January, ae son ae cae peas — the general ae oe | Iu Astaican Stocks we have no variation in prices or ‘ranee. fears opes are an ellvetual | in demand to notice, bar to acomplete fusion, and a+ some of the princi- Big le wl pal leaders A the party in question seem ty wefer Pritt caged Public sale yesterday there was no dispo- the republic itself to the return of Henry V., the ; ‘ten to purchase, and the whole quantity, comprising ‘opposition will probably be an injury to the inte- 2.000 bales Madras, 970 Surat and 140 Bengal, was with- rests of the family. drawn, ‘The sales by private contract have been con- Within the last few days an aTair has turned up { to 1,000 bales Surat, without change in value. At which is still more dangerous to the cause of Heary rpool there is a firmer market Sand American Cotton V. A schism bas already arisen between the fusion- | 1 fully 2d dearer, mid, Orleans 7 3-16d 9 734d. ists. The old adherents of the cause of the elder | p.\ecituliy Hondates citer which: tere eae public sale, t ane OF, 'y Honduras silver, which have realized 34, 4d. branch think that the family of Louis Philippe cum a 2s 9d, with @ few black at 3s. 9d.a 4s. 4d. Mexican not to confine their support of the cause of Henry V. | siiver would bring 3s. 24; it is held at 3a. Sd. to private assurances given to the Comte de Cham- Cocoa.—Of 260 bags Bahia. at auction, a small part bord himself, and ,rivate letters to their friends in | only was realized at 30s,, being rather easier, Paris. They insist that the princes of the House of | _ Correr.—The Trading Company's second sale of 115,- “Orleans should (in imitation of the conduct of Uomte 197 bags, which took place at Rotterdam on the 13th in- de Chambord, who, in his letter to M. Berryer, has | j{'nt wont of briskly, the whole finding ready bu me the next day he would do it. He told me he had received two hundred and fifty dollars from Henry Colton, in consideration of Mr. Parsons, Mr. Hall, and Mr. Wallace, and that he was to receive one hundred dollars from Patrick S. Hearn. He Lid to come to see me next day at 120’clock. He jeft me. Q. Have you named all the persons from whom he told you he had received money? A. Lhave up to that time. Q. And have you stated all that took place at that interview? A. I have—all that I can romember. Q. When did you next have an interview with Mr. Bull? A. The next day, about the middle of the day. Q. State what took place on that occasion. A. He told me that he could convince me, but that the committee did not like to come downto my house. He asked me if he should bring it to me in wale, if that would satisfy me; and told me I gould buve it in writing or could have it personally with those gentlemen. He said be was in a burr to go op to Mr. Hearns and that he would call back about dusk, and then exhibited the letter marked C. He read it to me, and I asked him to let me read it. He did so. I requested to retain it. He pared to-dey, to puraue tho victim any farther. pay ,Where was Senator Robinson on the 27h | "43 intenented th the bill, and had you seen him at all, between | . Q. Did they hesitate about the 'y of sign- f Boing to New York, onthe 2ist Febru- | i?& it, when it was presented to 4 ary and 28th Febiuary ? - They did not. A. On 4 retum fron New York on the morning Q. How soon after that letter was signed did you of the 25th February, if my memory serves me, JTesent it toMr. Suydam 3 _ Senator Robinson was out of the city—at any rate, | ; A. I think the letter was signed between 8 and 10 T did not see him, to have conve-sution with him | 12 the morning. I showed it to Mr. be- between the periods stated, on that bill or any | tWeen half-past 12 and half-past 1 on the same day. other subject of legislation. Q. Did either member of the committee dictater In what way did you sueceod in getting him | © You the form of the answer they signed to postpone the introduction of the bill? - They did not. 7 . Simply because he was not here to do so. Q. Was it drawn up according to your own ideat Q. What Senators, if any, did you retain, osten- | A+ 1t was. rcahy sibly to defend a suit, who were to speak against Q. Did you exhibit it to any person, other tham the bill, and assist you in any way to kill it? Mr. Suydam, in New York? A. Not one. A. I did not, to my recollection. Q. What arrangements, if any, in relation to the Q. Have you received sooney from any person to bill, have you made with Mr. Mills, the Deputy | “efeat the passage of that bill Clerk? A. Yes. A. None, other than to op rig him to keep me| @- ed you received any from Mr. Suydam? advised of its introduction, that 1 might keep the A. Never—one cent, watch of it. Q. Have ie ever paid, a promised to pay, Q. Was there, at any time, any understanding | 0¢Y or valuable consideration to any person between rege any ofthe members of the Senate, | 1 #0 officer or member of the Legislature, to defeat 5 that bill? or Mr. or any of the other officers of the I have neh, ‘The Bleck Mall Case in the New York Senate. THE TESTIMONY BEFORE THE COMMITTER OF 1N- VESTIGATION. Monpay, Marcu 31.—Present, Messrs. Morgan, Chairman, Mann, and Dimmick. Samuel A. Suydam, exami Q. What is your place of residence and occupation t A. I reside at No. 14 Barelay street, in tho city of New York; I am engaged in no business what- ever. Q. How do you occupy your time ? A. By reading, and alice amusements. Q. Do you keep # house at which gambling is permitted ? {It was stated to the witness that he was not bound to answer any question that will tend to criminate himself.) 3 1 decline answering that question, by my pri- vilege. Q. Do you know George W. Bull? A. Yes. Q. When did you first know him ? A. 1 do not remember the date, but I think the 7 v ) frm 274; a 33 cents, or full; ith theii - ‘s 7 A . Senate, in relation to any compensation either you J rp ope ttoigd| of the rosonslistion betroen the (wo brsnob- wae a 168 cn ts AGEN Se. ae SR A pak ad oem ag} last February was the first time I ever saw ae me ne Mae ve teereeeead ee ies ae or they’ were to receive to procure the defeat of such ie Haw Sid om ently yourself that Mr. Suydass Y, Words the jrintaband their sdberonte dimuar’ | tex ae eS eae eatieee Cerca a tOS ge ete | Q. Where did you then see him? He told me he would go and ask their permission, | A. Before heaven! there was not. ‘A. From the reply he made me when I asked him A. At my private residence, No. 14 Barclay street. Q. Did he call on you at that time in pursuance of uny previous arrangement or understanding be tween you? A. Tnever heard of him, or saw him, before that day. &. State what took place, and what was said be- tween ha on that occasion ? A. He asked me if my name was Suydam, and that he wished to have a private interview with me. Itold him to be seated. He then commenced by informing me that there was a bill before this gs and that it was to be presented by his friends, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Johnson, and Mr. Stone. They then had the bill, and he could stop ita passage, at least for this session. I told him its puege or rejection did not affect me in the least. Heasked me, then, if 1 had not friends that it igh, 1 told him it was say possible. He then said he would undertake to io itfor a consideration. 1 don’t recollect anything particular more that occurred at that interview, only he said he would write to me when he got to a5 or as soon as he saw his friends. Q. Is that all that occurred at that interview, to and let me know. He then left me, taking the letter with him. I them consulted afriend, whether I should have it in writing or have half # dozen gentlemen to listen to it, concealed behind my curtains when the: wore released from their brackets. He told me, blac! and white was better than anything, tosay nothing of the unmanliness to which a listener would be sub- jected. 1 then consulted with him how I should obtain the letter. There were two friends that I con- sulted. They advised me that if I saw it again, to possess myseif of it. I said 1 would. Mr. Bull re- turned and asked me if ] doubted the signatures of that letter. 1 answered him I did not doubt the genuineness of the signatures. 1 now wish to state of the letter marked U, that Mr. Bull informed me that he wrote both sides of this letter, except the signatures of Mr. Robinson, Mr. Johnson, and Mr. Stone. He informed me that he had received ono hundred dollars from Orlando Moore. He said he would let me have that letter with the committee’s signatures to it, provided I would pledge him my word and honor a¢ a man, that I would send it to him by mail that week, 1 answored him thus:— “Mr. Bull, if you let me have that letter, I will ‘They say that in withdrawing their opposition to 2700 bags Brazil. 387 bales Mocha, 660 bags African, Henry V. they have done all that can be expectodof 200 bags Java. The Ceylon was mostly sold from 45s. 6d. shemithas they cannot go farther without deel: ing Cy plea Lise! aeeetton Lap aoe = ao uis Philippe an usurper; that as they abided for Bne ord. to low mid.; the Mocha brougi I. & 66s. the decision of France i 1880, when the nation almost | 88d Costa Rica 40s. Od."a 66s,; for the other descriptions unanimously placed Louis Philippe on tho throne, | {Ref wit no demand, and they were, withdrawn. | The 80 they are ready at the present moment to abide * by her present determination as to the choice of a | Cit 10th of February, fattened the market for the mo- ruler; and that if the choice of France should fall cargo of first Kio afloat; we are now,- however, upon the Comte de Chambord, they will not only | firmer, and 42s. has since been refused for one for a near not do anything to retard the accomplishment of port. From the Continental ports, the accounts aro that wish, but will be the first to adhere to it. This | tirly satisfactory. ‘The following were the imports and answer does not, by any moans, satisfy the legiti- teks on the Ist instant ;— mists, and the dispute runs, so high, tht it hus al- | POT, ayy Stocks ready almost annihilated all hopes of a sincere re- | Great Britain, Ibs... 6,100,000 6,000,000 $9,600,000 46,900,000 souaiiation of oe parties. z 8 recens result of ) Other pe'ts of Burepetl,(00,000 47,200,000 96,900,000 79,400,000 - Creton’s proposition for the repeal of the laws | potay which exile the Bourbons, has increased the dill: | Toft cor’ iaskeé Ren aean mama tate clas sae culty. M. Berryer declared that the Comte de | 2s most of the cargoes of Mediterranean and Black Sea ‘Chambord will never enter France except as king ; | Whests, lately arrived on the coast, have been disposed and the princes of Orleans refuse to enter into ne. f; the quantity left is comparatively small, and gener- gotiations until they are allowed to do so on tho | wlly held for higher prices, say 3s. for soft Polish Odessa, soil of France. ‘The consequence is, that the oppo- An4 in thal proportion; the tone, too, of the country sition given by M. Berryer to M, Croton's propesis markets is firmer. “Flour does not participate, being sti Q. Did any of the Senators, or officers of the | the question. ree Senate, have any knowledge or understanding, as} @- Did a ask Mr. Suydam “Are youa Mason?* far as you know, in relation to any interest of yours A. I did. ; in the defeat of such bill? Q. What was his answort A. They had not, directly or indirectly. A. His manner to me the first time T asked hiss Q: Relate the circumstances under which the | this quertion, was such that I considered him to be Select Committee signed the note to you, in the | «Mason? ; F k . city of New York, marked C., and the circumstances Q. Did you ask him, during this last interview, which led thereto? whether he wasa Mason? A. While the Legislature was in New York on A. Lasked him if he did not tell me he was a Ma Monday last, 1 inquired of the different members of | °°"; and be said no. 3 i the committee, respectively ardapart, if Iwas right | 4y Mr. Limmick—Q. At any time during the in the opinion that a bill for the more effectual sup- present session, have you, directly or indirectly, in- ion of gambling would not be reported back to timated to any Senator or officer of the Sonate, that e Senate, and if 80, if they would sign a paper to | the defeat of the bill to suppress gambling would es effect t They, each efthem, said that Twas orn No” pecuniary benefit to yourself? een ierenD the Paper addressed to thom, |" When you asked Mr. Stone whether the bill was was eating his breuktast; Mr. Stone was in the | Would not be reported, did he not say that he could ante room of the ladies’ parlor, at the south end of | Dot tell, as the committee had not mot to consuls the Astor Houso—Mr. Johnson, I met in the vesti- | about it, but that he presumed it would not bovee bule; Mr. Stone went with me into No. 4; I then | there was already as much business before the drew up this letter and the answer; Mr. Stone | Bi#lature as they could accomplish ? signed it; Mr. Johnson also came in and signed it; | A. | have a slight recollection of something of o M ery dull for any but superfine brands, which would | the best of your recollection? no} an and an, tha from breakfast; i bi tion, widened the division between the [ring 2s. u 226 Gd. per barrel, Indian core ts mogincted,, 93, hee, % Your : ledge you the honor of # m gentleman, that | Mr. Robinson came out from b: ; 1 mot him | that sort. hon: 2 a * a . cm A. At present, this is all that I can recollect. will send it to Albany to-morrow or the next da; in the hall; I too! room and Q. Did you not come to him a short time after- branches | phe consumption in Lrvland being greatly interfered with | ()’ How long did Mr. Bull stay at your place at | if i live.” He handed it to me, and told me that hin to le apt AO Lda i say to him that a friend of yours, whe him th ‘ wards, an tenlee come rakes Fgh tyra anol inted | yeas interested in the bill, wished to know what the desired to show it to a friend of mine who was in- | Committee thought about reporting it, and ask terested in that bill; they asked me no other roa- him if he was pe accommodate you by stat- sons for wishing it, nor did] give them any. ing in writing what he had before stated to you? . Did you ay any knowledge or information of | A. There was some such conversation. the intention of Senator Kobinson to introduce such Q. Did not Mr. Stone state to you that you bad a bill before he gave notice thereof in the Senate? better see the other members of the committee, as A. I simply bad information of it from seeing it wecheee they would think best to report the bill 1S Str, Rhone, Ace tha’ oe eae en ee eee ity ‘yout =. Are the) letters marked AB.) 6)" Del he state to you after be had signed it A. They wore written by me. letter, that you had better keep it in your hands, ag Q. Did you know that Mr. Suydam was Freo | the committer goleih, cn ecanalincien, think best to Mason ? ieport the bi A. At my first interview with him, I asked bim| A- 1 do not recollect that. ithe was Silanes.” From bir reply I believed him | _@- What did Mr. Kobinson say to you when you to be such. presented the paper to him to siga? ee il | by the low prices of wheat. Taking the Vell. |. "Daves; heoTa the annonce 60 siictioks tiessactions THE PETITION OF CRAVEN FITZHARDINGE BERKELEY have been limited, and little change can be noticed in TO THE HON. THE COMMONS OF THE UNITED KING- the quotations of any article. Shellac, however, is OM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND, IN PARLIA- cheaper, 150 chests having been sold from 37s. 6d. for MENT ASSEMBLED. mid. block to 44s, 6d. for dark orange. Opium is dull Humbly showeth eo he. iakerronused a et Augusta Talbot, the widow of George Henry Tal- 4 2 St ‘burg clean and 1.200 tons Riga, to be bid for a whe. was the half-brother of the present Earl of on 22nd April, and for 700 tons Hungarian and 800 tons Shrewsbury. I T, Italian, to be bed for on 3d June next. Thut the said George Henry Talbot left two “Ixpico—Kast India kinds held firmly for October children him surviving, namely, John, who was heir rates, Lut bussiness restricted to the execution of small presumptive to the Earidom, and Augusta, an infant, — crders for immediate requirements, none of the consumers now of the age of 19 years aud upwards. hold That the said infant, August, Talbot, resided have with your petitioner and her mother up to the time Cortes to very good Sobra, being 24 dearer. a, of the death of the latter, which took place on the trails the demand continues, and £5 10s. fre rd in Wales, is the lowest price at which 25th day of April, 1841. could be bought. Common bars firmer at £4 Tre od. that time? A. About twenty minutes. Q. Did you sce him again before he returned to sg the same or the next day ? A. My impression is that I did not. Q. Did you request Mr. Bull, in this interview, to endeavor to prevent the passage of the bill to which he referred ? A. I did not. I told him I knew it was impossible to pass such a bill. Q. Did you hold out to Mr. Bull, at that time, that you would give him any consideration to de- feat the bill ? A. I did not. Q. Did you name to him any other persons who you thought would be interested in defeating the passage ofthe bill? when I sent it, I would oblige him by accompanying it with some funds. I was about giving him a check on the bank, aod to the order of Mr. Robinson, when he informed me that he had left town that evening. 1 told him (Mr. Bull) to draw on me from Albany ; I did name the sum ; my mo- tive was to honor it b; Cooma a check payable to the order of Mr. Robinson. I did not communicate that motive to him. Q. Is that all that took place at that interview? A. All that I can recollect of at present. Q. Did you send any check, as contemplated? A. Two friends of mine advised me not to do it, or to wait long enough for him te draw on me from Albany, but to proceed pyoeg es and lay the sffair before the Senate; I took their advice, and did not send any money or check to Mr. Bull. any stock. 107 serons Guatemala at auction found ready buyers from 2. 6d. « 48, 9d. for low ‘That'since that period, and upto the month of ¥ 1 a. | A. Idid not. . Did Mr. Bull draw on you for any money from i procure a bi A. I believe he stated that he was in favor of September last, the said infant,” Augusta ‘Talbot, Sau sei heme us enes eee teense Q. Did you name to him any persons who you Alken y? Pela eae é # Bolineen Dareinren ante pee fjord & more stein gent law, on the subject has resided with the Earl and Countess of Shrews- |. Lixsxxp Canes continue to sell slowly. We quote best thought would be interested in the passage of the A. it he has, I have not been advised of anything | jntroduced in the Senate? _ Examined ly Mr. Johnson:—Q. Did you tell Mr. mts he death of the anid Tonn | AmCham barrels 27 10s. bags 47 Ta: Ol; thick | Dill of that sort. : AT dd mot, Suydam, at any time before the bill had been intro That in ones of the death of the said John | roun Fea Spe ny were pon gps poor aap A. Ido not remember. o : Q. At the time Mr. Bull left with you tho letter | Q. Do you know who drew that bill? duced, that you would have it referre 1 to Messrw. Talbot, the said infant, Augusta Talbot, became | | 01 — Fin oie ie on al Coos Cot ced ea | 4p; Can you say that you did not mention to him | marked “C.,” did he state what amount of funds | A. j do not. Robinson, Johnsoo, and Stone, or words to that ef absolutely entitled to a sum of £80,000, or there- ove otal iach without fo or ge ge Bt Pete: Smad the names of any persons that aig would | he wished you to sendto him, in consideration of Q. Did you know whether any porson furnished fect? 3 abouts. “ £38 for Barbury and Levant. up to “cil for. Galli be interested in the passage of the bill, either for or | leaving the letter? it to him for the purpose of being introduced? A. No, 1 did not. That the said infant, Augusta Talbot, isa ward | join soe C 32s. 609 casks to-day were | ®Saitist it? A. Ko. A. I do not know who gave it to him. Q. What conversation did you have with Mr. of the Court of Chancery. That in the month of September last, tho heaper, say is. 2d. for mt delivery. ‘Countess and Earl of Shrewsbury placed the said in- | Rice isagain 3d. « 6d. lower, and dull at the reduction; fant, Augusta Talbot, (uotwithitanding she is a | the sales are 2.890 bags Bengal from 9s. @ 10s, for mid- ward of Court, as aforesaid,) at the coavent called | dling te good, with low white at 8s. per ewt. A. No, I cannot say. Q. Do you believe that you did not name to him any such persons at that time? . My impression is that I did not. Q. Did Mr. Bull, on that occasion, state to you . and 30, for Ceylon. LI Q. Did he at any time state what amount of funds he wanted from you? A. 1 think that he did intimate once that he wanted two hundred and fifty dollars; I don’t re- member what he said he wanted to do with this Q. Did Mr. Mills, the Deputy Clerk, show you | Johnson, in reference to this bili, in the aate-cham- & bill like that, before it was introduced by Mr. Xo | ber of the Senate chamber? ipson? A. [do not recollect having any. A. He showed me one sitailar to it, but whethor |. Did you ever stato to either member of the prior or since its introduction, I am’ not positive, | Committce anything in relation to an arrangement the Lodge, situate at Taunton, in the county of | | Sater has declined Is, per ewt., and there are still | the substance of the bill? two hundred and fifty dollars that he intimated. i i made with any person or persons about that bill T Somerte, hot as a pupil of ister, but as a post Jx7y_ few buyers, OF 4.080 bogs Bengal at auction, only ."He showed me either the original or a eopy. | He added that he had borrowed six hundred dollars, | “°° Wes tha iit ia hie nand- writing thes ws | bo Sane ad lant, with the avowed object of allowing the said being all bought in. — ae Q. Did you read it? and owed it up here in Albany, to pay for what had | showed you? (Signed,) Gro. W. Bui. Augusta Talbot to take the veil and become a nun. Sreutsx remains entirely neglected. We still quote A. J read part of it, and as soon asI read so far, | been done to suppress that bill original of A. No. And the Committee adjourned to5 PM. agin the month of September next ba st Silesian nominally £16 a £15 17s, 6d. I saw the object, and handed it back to him. which he had then in his pocket. Q: Was it a printed bill? Five P. M.—Committee met. Present: all the of probation or postulancy will have expired, and | Srices.—We have to report sales of 1,000 bags pimento . Did he state to you that the bill had beenin- | (. At what interview was this? A. No. Committee. the said infant, Augusta Talbot, will be compelled | at 44.d. a Sd; 640 bags fair Penang pepper at 3d. a 3%¢d., | troduced or was about to be introduced? . The last one, . Do you know whether he furnished it to Mr. Mr. Stone, culled on the part of Mr. Suydam, in by the rules and regulations of the said convent, ing rather cheaper, and 150 cases Cochin ginger from 1 ain under the impression that be seid it was | (2. Did he show you the original bill at that | Robinson to be introduced? the mutter of the charges against Mr. Bull—sworn. and by the priesthood of the Koman Catholic 8 Dis, iu: theta Dak a Galt teeny Govan s to be presented and suppressed afterwards. time ? A. 1 do not. By Mr. Svadam. . Were you in the city of Church, to take the white veil during her minority, wel ide nianetns eae toes toseaneitia mae Was the bill he showed to you on the 22d of} A. He offered to give it to me. Q. Did you ever request any person to have a so- | New York, about the the 2d ordrd of Maret and notwithstanding the said infant, Augusta Tal- | TW.te0 ‘though. the prowent position of the article as | February, « printed bill? Q. Did you take it? lect committee appointed ou such a billin the Sen | =A. 1 was not. I never was in Now York but dot, is a ward of the Court of Chancery. Tegerds checkn tn bund would certaieky cova te worcsen | | A- Te A. I did not. ate? wice—once last April, and when the Legislature That, having taken the white veil, there is no re- | an upward rather than a retrograde movement. Q. You have stated that you read a portion of the Q. Was it a manuscript bill? A. I have no distinct recollection of having sug- | was down, a week ugo last Friday. treat for the suid infant, Augusta ‘Talbot, and she | sales of West India do uot exceed 4 bhds., while of | bill—was the bill in manuscript, shown by Mr. Bull A. J did not see it. gested the appointment of such committee. (Signed,) A. G. Stowe. will be compelled to take the black veil in Septem- | Mauritius, Bengal and Madras, 25,200 have been | on the 22d February, the same as the printed bill] (. Have youever given apy money to Mr. Bull? |” Q, Do y. ow how or why it was referred to a Mr. Jehnsen called on the part of Mr. Suydaua— ber, 1882, or shortly afterwards, offered, which have been prineipally at the above | now shown? i A. No. select committee, instead of a standing committee of | sworn. ‘That on the 6th day of June, 19852, the said in- Perry ps ty Lig poner Pay ben dowry and 1.350 | A. It was substantially. Q. Did you ever promise to give him any money? | thy Senate? Mr. Sugdam.—Q. When were you in New ant, Augusta Talbot, will attain her twonty-first ee ae era eee aicponttion i Y | Q. When did you noxt hear from Mr. Bull? A. I never promised him in any other Way than York, previous to the visit of the Legislature ? 2 a In a few days I received thie letter from Mr. ull. {Witness here produced a letter dated 27th Feb- ruary, marked A.]} Q. How did you receive that? I have already mentioned. < Q. Did you ever have any interview in any man- ner with the Committee of the Senate named ? J never had any dealings with the committee save as I have already mentioned through Mr. Q. Do you know who moved the appointmont of | A. My impression hat it was about the Tth a select committee? of March; 1 think two weeks previous to the night _A. Ido not—I was not in the Senate when the | when the Legislature went do: bill was introduced. Q. What was your business in New York on thas Q. How did yor t learn that it was referred to | occusion ? year, when she will become entitled to receive the | }\hiranm there being tite aa have: been confined to end sure of £50,000. 280 cases brown Bahia at 36s, 6d. a 38, In the near That, being a nun at that period, the £30,000 | ports of the continent holders are firm, in anticipation of will become confiscated to the said convent, or to | an early demand. We subjoin ote of imports and the eeck siastical revenues of the Church of Rome, | stocks to 1st inst.:— orto the endowment, enrichment, or maiatenance Imports. Stocks. A. The postman brought it. Bull. a select committee, and the names it- A. My business was this:—My niece, Mrs. Jo- of some bishopric or deanery, or other ecclesiastical | ¢,4t Britain, Ibs. 121,000,000 ahahon 273 Bi o00 195,340,000 Q. Did you make any reply to that letter from Q. Are you acquainted with the Committee of | tee ? sane eae seph Taylor, of the city of New Joragelie ~g Boe benefice of the said Church of Romo; or the said | Other port rH Mr. Bull? the Senate, Messrs. Robinson, Jobngon, and Stone? | A, From Mr. Mills, who had the bill handed to | ther resides in this city, was going home that eve infant, Augusta Talbot, will be compeiled by some | Europe. $4,100,000 58,200,000 115,200,000 124,900,000 | A, T did not. y ; ALN him, 1 suppose, as is usual with such bills. ning. She desired my wife to go down with ber. assuranee in the law to transfer all her right and | 4, ‘200,000,000 144,000,000 388,500,000 317,600,000 | @- When did you next see him or hear from him ? d) S. A. Suypam. Q. From whom did you get the original that was | My wife and myself went down with Mrs. Taylor interest in the said sum of £50,000. active demand had prevailed for st, | A. Ithink I saw him in six or eight days there- | Chairman bere stated that if any members of the | introduced 7 and ber husband, at the request of Mr. Taylor. at it is one of the doctrines of the Church of | Pei . ©, on the spot for contracts, and prices had | after at my residence. Select Committee had any questions to ask of Mr. | A. | did not see the original bill at any time in| Q. Lid Mr. bull accompany you at the same Rome that no member of the said church shall be | been forced to 41s Gd a dis Sd; the market has since Q. State what took place at that second inter- dam, they or Mr. Bull now had an oj steely New York. time on the e boat? rmitted tu exercise, Me Ro her gtretes ment paps oy” gua Py A Tey By od nay bea ae Sorte ae ‘vosssexaminad ty Mr. Ao pod ir. Q. Did you have the original bill at any time? A. Hedi in religious matters, but that in all such religious | . ew, o . ad received a newspaper stating auc! Bull called upon you Inst Mo: evening and re- A. Lhad it one evening lon, Q. Lid not converse sioually wit 5 matistahe or she ts, voued te cubmis te the oxthe- Year ha leo bean extensively dealt in, at 204M © 405; | iil had been presented, with that part marked. | fysed to let you have the letter marked C. on the | copy, from which got lt rinted ne ** | pallon tie boat? ase rity of the said Romish Church, and to the direction | ">," “G0cd business has been doing in common Con- of the priesthood thereof, . ce gous ef recent arrival, from 11\¢. a 1s, and deliveries That ina certain work by Nicholas Wiseman, | continue good. The stock of ail kinds on 16th instant, who is a high ecclesiastical authority in the Romish | was computed at 29,051,496 Iba., against 32,955,043 Tbs. at me 1850, grounds that it was obtained from the committeo under the express and solemn stipulation that it should not leave his possession, but be back ina pi one did he refuse any money offered for u . From whom did you procure it? frequently A. From Mr. Robinson, the chairman; I told him Q. Was Mr. Kobuson on board the boat that I merely wished to take it over to my room to look ary. : it over. » les. Mr. Bull asked me if I had received the pape sent me, noticing the presentment of the bill. 1 told him I had received the paper. He told me he would be sure to have it stopped; that he had arranged it ‘Chureh, on the principal doctrines and practices in | the period . Of 3,590 packages at auction | with Mr. Johnson, Mr. Robinson, and Mr. Stone, ¢ letter T . Did you state anything else to him about it at At this stage of the examination, Mr. Su; Saresad Meaduted Pte, eects ake naa ck Lae .| ine atmo emer aoe wae Coren oa Gees: meaee= | ead Cha fh wee Ring to cost him six hundred ol: | A Ty ‘belie is, that I intimated to him that I | ueiinet > TIRE One REG Aah St teeta iy. Seeksacea een Tair Bolan ture 1.,” int; oduetion, pase 16, he following passage | Tis! change in value Virsinia ang | 8" immediately, and he wanted to know how much | would give him a check, or that ho mightdrawonmo | A. He was loth to let mo have it. Itold himI | leave the room while Mr. Johason was being ex- oceus e Catholic Church is thus as a eit mastenks Gert hort toa abe Hn oases Ue actu, | £ could assist him. T told him I would let him | from fereeg be declined, and said he would go to | would return it to bim at once, without making any The committee decided, this is not a case to h avenuos lead from every side, towards | piney have nat transpired, but are auld to have been very | now some other time; | would see him again. He | the Astor House and see what he could do. Ashe | mark or meddle with it in any way, except to copy ® judgment requires the exercise of which men may travel from any quarter by the | fyi, most diversified roads, by the thorny and rugged Te tive.—Anything offering in rough ix readily ways of strict its gf me by. the more flowery | taken at S«. dd. Spirits remain quite firm. puths of sentiment and feeling, but arrived at its ES name said he was going to leave for Albany that day, and would write me. Jt was at that interview he in quired where certain gentlemen lived. Q. Is that all that took place at that interview! was going out, I told him J would not promise him any money, as, that, before I parted with five hun- dred dollars, 1 must know where or for what it was goirg. He left me. section. any power to compel theee purties Lo leave the room.) Q. Did you make a copy? Ly the Commute—Q. What other persons ae- A. lmade @ copy, aud got it printed from the | ¢cmpanied yuu ut this time! A. $ rs Cross, Keach, Lieutenant Governor copy. (4 How soon did you return the ori precinets, all find that there is but one door to the . Cen s A. Ali that | can remember, except as to the in- Q. Did Mr. Bull, during the interview, appear inal to him? | Church. sheepfold—narrow and low, perhaps, and causing Our Albany ~ quiry where certain gentlemen lived. touched or express sarprise that you, after his hav- A. The next morning, | believe. a. Wasanything said to yon, or in your hearing, flesh and blood to stoop as it passes They may Anany, April 2, 1851. Q: Did you give him the residence of certain gen- | ing acted in this swhole matter with such seemi Q. Did you ever speak to him or any other mem- | by Mr. he passage down, or while you ng yy admire the | The Bull and Suydam Affair in the Senate—The | tlemen about whom be enquired? confidence, should be ‘afraid to trust him with the wander about its Cnepe| they ber of the committee, except when you were in New oneeruing the bill for the sap- codliness of its edi its bulwarks, but the; - s A A. Yes. y on his word t York, in ref t Scnaot be ite denizens eed children if they enter net | Report——The Conclusion—The Discharge of Bull. : What are the names of those persons? a aa 1: ain aes eonene os comned. aloes. tg by that one gate of absolute unconditional submis- | The whole community hereabouts expected that | (The witness declined answering this question, and | (" Did you obi jon of the letter on the | (. Did you ever speak to Mr. Robinson, when ‘on first learn that you were a sion to the teaching of the church.” the report in relation to the Bull conspiracy would ‘That in the enid work, under the head of Lecture | be presented inthe Senate this morning; conse- ie re on raehalls ae. not _ ond quently, at an early hour, the Senate chamber be- priveiple of his faith, but any of those doctrines | came filled to overflowing, and when Mr. Morgan which are thereon based, the inoment he allows arose every eye was directed upon him, and the elf to call in question any of the dogmas which the Cathoiie Church teaches as having been handed | 0st, intense silence prevailed. A solemnity per- down within her, that moment the Church conceives | Vaded every countenance, and the vast assembly him to have virtually abandoned all connexion with | listened with breathless silence while the report her; for she exacts such implicit obedience that if | was being read by Mr. Bogart, the Clerk. The any member, however val Meng 4 aoe | three Se whem Dull hes 00 © ly impli- the + aaa decided that he was bound to an- ewer it. A. Henry Colton, Reuben Parsons, Joseph J. pond Mr. Wallace, O:lande Moore, Patrick 5. tearm. 2 od you acquainted with all these individuals? « Yes. second interview, by holding out to him the induce- ment that he could receive money from other per- rons unknown to Mr. Bull, provi they could see the letter with the signatures. A. I told’ Mr. Bull I wanted that letter to exhibit to persons interested, and | added that they were not willing to pay their money unless they could see the signatures of the gentlemen. (Sigued,) 8. A. Seypam. Cross-Exammed by Mr. Johnson. —Q. At what time in the day, on the 2ith March, did Mr. Bull exhibit the letter to you marked C the commictee would meet, in reference to that bill? A. 1 believe I did ask him once. He was passing: id no particular attention to my question. He ‘one of these days.” | Q. Did you ever spenk to Mr. Johnson or Mr | in New York, when the aed select committee. to which the bily ime when it was—L » told me that T was minittee om the bill Stone, except in was there, in relation to the bill? A. To the best of my present recollection I never Le suppiession of gi Q Did’ fou ever hw meeting of the committee! ve. A. No formal notice. Mr. Robinson, I recollect, Q. Did youever have any conversation with either | spoke to me something about having a meeting, of the committee, on your way t» New York, when | but no time was tixed or specified. — m the Legislature went down, in relation to this bill Q. How long did you remain in New York? bing. y notice to attend the bd you know the occupation of these per- sons A. I don’t know that they are engaged in any business. Q. Do you know that they keep gam’ng houses ? have deveted his early tale A. It is my i ion they do. SD ari : ing, and lef her doctrines, fall away from his belief in any one | cated, ent in their seats, dejected in countenance | (): Didyou have another iaterview with Mr. Bull | ,,4, To the best of my impression it was between | A> Ttidmot. ae si son in eetation | there Sununy evening. (Signed) ne point: he is cut off without reserve; and we have | and depressed in spirits. The audience, crowded | before he returned to Albany on that occasion ! Maat the time this letter was presented to you, to dotendion ‘a suit tor you? 3. H. Jouxson. tee imes seen striking and awful instances | and large as it was, added to the gloominess of the & Os eaten il ER, the ink dry upon it? A. Mr. ohnson did defend » suit for me, in the -- Rebinvon here stated, that he was waiting That the above opinions and declarations of the | #eene; and when that portion of the report was | hat you would give hi ‘Se 4 ‘A. It had the appearance to mo that it had been | Justices’ Court of this city this winter, some time, | to be exwmined if it was desired, pinions an rations of t 3 pe ke bill! give him « consideration for defewt- | written but a very few moments, and I was strength I think in February or March. Mr. Johnson refused | Mr. Stone also expressed his willingness to #ab- said Nicholas Wiseman are the true doctrines of being read which states that Senators Robinson, to receive any remuneration for this service. ther examination iu reiation vo the . A din that opinion when he opened it, by his tear- the Roman Catholic Church, and that the said in- gtone and Johnson had committed an act of A. 1 believe he was under that impression from | {00 name of M Did f th est him, | ¥ il gross ir. Robinson, and it was so damp Q. you ever speak to any two members of the m eo T zoek, baw 2 oe ee inte official mal hereby receiving in public and a» A him to say to me, and not what I that he attempted to paste a part of it down, Legislature, who fare lawyers, in relation to defend- Mr. 8 or Arn 1, 1851. that the said infant, Angusta Talbott is Scand in their — a severe reprimand—a feeling of sor- Q What kind of consideration éi4 you encour: Q. In Foe 9 first interview with Me Bull, did he — i for you? Stes 3 r. Ms ee ot My fore the a and to subsait to the will and dictation of the superior TOW for them appeared manifest through the whole age him to expect ? x tell you that the bill had been referred to Messrs. . Tnever have, except that 1 got Mr. Johnson | requested to teke a full statement, on oath, in re to defend that suit, and I think, one day, going | lation to the Uanssctions in which be is im down the hill, 1 think 1 mentioned to Mr. Senoon- | and the committee did not deem it necessary to maker, that | had been chosen defendant, and that | bave him do%so. he offered to appear for me. | told him Mr. John- = Robingon, Johnson and Stone ? A. No; but he told me that he could form that committee, and that it would consist of Mr. Ro- bineon, Mr. Johnson, and Mr. Stone. hood audience. ¢ hearts of all touched, and Trarch via. sailed isi ae none more so than Messrs. Morgan, Mann and ‘That your petitioner is deprived of aM commani- | Dimmick, the select committee who presented the ‘A. He expected money. Q. When did you next bear from Mr. Bull after the second interview 7 cation (And connection with his stepdaughtor, the | Tht, at the conclusion of the ‘veading of the Fe: |g Zi.dqiwzt "eeelvel the letter dated March 17, | By the Chairman... Why did, you hesitate to | son bad volunteered. ‘This was athe conversation | | Exraonpixany Scicpe.—We announced, few Gaughter, the hnlf-sister and only heat female rela. | port and testimony. They agreed in the severity | "(View aid you receive that letter—through | £¥¢, Mr. Bull money after receiving the letter | I bad: | ‘ F . ye me cen death of Wiliam Calon, tive of the snid infant, Augusta Talbot, is also pre. | Of that portion which all to the three unfortt | wei channel 2 marked ©? ‘ ; Q. Have you over spoken to any lawyer, « mom- | ot the cars, om his revain from Hare from cultivating those natural feelings of | Pate Senators; but, disagreeable as the duty was, A Mig mervant handed it tome. It was left at | A: Two gentlemen of my most intimate frionds ber of the Legislature, about defeading a suit, hav: | risburg, where be bad just taken out « policy of ine ‘on, which but for the reasons aforeanid would | they were compelled to vindicate the honor and the Ran | serval . envied me not to give him a dollar in any manner be gy a hd mind (o this bill sey — pong tr a Ba n= > rs ‘Senate, . whatever. . @ not. corn that he ot dhe o ears, sont, eehgieeenbetnem fam, W tee men | Pe ERR ph be > Pah & nee come Hnongh the Poet Ofee t @. Did you think from his manner, or otherwise, | GQ: Did the suit in regard to which Mr. Johnson | Lisrrishug mud returned on horseback, bos taken one petitioner therefore humbly ally, their faults might charitably have been co- * Sd sou tepty to thas leteer t : that he was noting in good faith with Mesars. Ro: | and Mr. Schoonmaker Lad been spoken to, relate in | sick with Vomiting and purging ou bis way back the Commons of the United King: vered with the cloak of commisserati reonal- - ee ces ee binson and Stone in procuring the letter marked Ct | any way to the ‘pill before the Legislatnre to sup- | He finally veached home at about 0 ook och, at ain and Leland will be aes to take his peti- ly, they were willing to overlook the frailties of bu- . When did you next see or hear from Mr. & My ee committee knew all | press eae re pone ~— ae prrmety Ti fate rBete serious cuanideration, nnd thes, they | caged oct tor Hain which Bul bad biveght epee vedi after the receipt of that letter t “Mr. Walsh here ohjee . Have you ever given Mr. Mills, the Deputy 4 hou Thusany morning, sitting up ia ® {Mr. Walsh here objected to the erasure of @ previous answer to this question, which the Com- mittee decided was not an answer to the question.) By Mr. Mewn:—Q. Did Mr. Bull at bis first in- tervicw with you, inform you that Mr. Robinson, Mr. Johneon and Mr. Stone were in New York at the bill en- | ‘ponged out the stain which Bull had brought upon titled the Keclesinstical Titles Assumption Bill,” | their characters ; but as Senators, while acting for now before their Hon. House, which will prevent | the whole peoplo. and, ns in duty bound, to preserve fuch practices re detailed in the snid petition | the dignity and respetability of the Senate of the from taking place; end that they will introduce a | State of New York, thus were bound, under their Clouse exneting that no infant, whether » ward in | onthe, to present the facts, and such deductions from Will be pleased to engraft a clause A. When the Legislature visited New York, March 25, March 26. I think I saw him those mach Was removed Rud savmitled to Clerk, to understand that he was to receive any yen consideration for helping to defeat the bill! micul ests, each one of winel re- A. I bave not. burbing the presente of arsenie.— wt ie ow ood Me ef together, get up | timcre Sun, siprd 2. at and have it introduced { —— NA. We did bot nn ome PUERO Corton Mant FACIURESIN Guonota.—There are days. Uy. Where aid you first see him on that oooaston 1 A. 1 never saw him except at my own residence ond in this chamber. pteny a shee fatoetion anedth tae hae 4 pa puget bh A hg “lly agreed 43 M. Peg Bag Fell a era A bere, place While the Tee, ot tack, ae cither of tery fequedt you nee to let it go oa of shaatico, a af pm wine aay, 690806 place of education, or other jp ocvmebed to | ihe sek of Beast Diecnees, te since coma te biveon, or Jobreon, of Stone. He said that he did spapers; the names published in the } of yout aquite positive he did not Clack, Secsviasy of kapation, ood item, Seeaih: Poatienen, pod yt ne wen, wy ty hd of ints poprevedended treaapetion might arg Pd et Se lh phen ntl Pull intimate to youat that time;the | Q. Who signed the letter fret? Charge de Aftairs to Ue Argentine repabile, will sell BE Z M stated distinetly | | insisted upon. being introduced to Mr. Kobinson mes were published; that he had any A. Lthink Mr. Johnson—I will not bo sure. -~ rfvik. abcut the first of — Wlether wbsolute of contingent, of any such infant what white-washed. its, shall vest in and enure to the use of her | that the report, as re ty, and shall and may be disposed of az her | tent of the committee, upon ty shall be plensed by der her sign | ficetion, and examination of the testimony ; and that Q. Who next? A. Mr, Stone signednext—Mr. Robinson last.— Mr. Kobineon signed over the others. is judg- anding with those genthamen in relation to ature re- the bill? A. Yee. ih i he could effeet it. 1 told him 1 would be in all that day, and aeked him to call again. This was the moat aringe, Ky.; Capt 3. Alexan- we, U lion. W. HM. Tuiay, Comms D iditruhewse, U8, N Hon. 8 Chittenden, Mate me |, to direct »point U referting the report for amendment in any par, (. How ood in what manner did be make the in- Q. Do you not remember that you were requested en. 3 be introduced into the said bill for throwing protes: | tiet iar, would ot be entirely futile and unnecoasmry” | WOTnit of the ret tay the Legislature arrived. | vig ccien to you; what did he say to sout by tome of them—one of them—not to Tet that let | Crm, fiom. WH. Springer Mla. Mow 3 Recess elcedlcocrets Wins” of thing | The ssokatte met Aicharpek esepertuceped: (2 WE : TY Mi eiht SMEM ES cea tao | ASG wok react vatntglyteling vm | ett terete ty hereafter placed in convents with view of taking | The committee war diecharged, the report accepted Q. What time ow Saturday did you see biamt p a - wa ety be Lingtied note ini eet y telling the port