The New York Herald Newspaper, January 21, 1844, Page 2

_—— Nf&W YORK HERALD. Sunday, January 21. 144. To Reatters in Philadetphia Persons iu Philadelphia wishing to be supplied with the Herald, regularly, can have it left at their dwelling stores, &c., immediately after the al of the cars Terms, 24 cents per copy pe yable monthly. G B. ZIEBER & CO:, Agents, No.3 Ledger Buildings, 3d and Clestuut InTRLLIGENCE FRoM Evrors.—The Britannia is now in herseventeenth day. Jt is probable, how- ever, that she arrived at Boston, although strong westerly winds have been against her—yesterday. If she has arrived, we shall receive her news this morning. Important From Wasmineron.—It will be seen by our correspondence from Washington, that we have at last some important news from Washington in the shape of proposed Post Office Reform. May the adoption of the measure be followed up with haste. Trinity Church—Gr at Struggle for the Loaves and Fishes. The Puseyite controversy, which had been quietly slumbering since the meeting of the Epic- copal Convention, begins again to agitate the pious Colonel Wobb, and other equally zealous and wor- thy chil’ren of the Chareh. This reawaking ot the eclesiastical elements is occasioned by the ra- pid approach of the interesting and important elec- tion of the Vestry of Trinity Church—that corpu- lent and bloated religious incorporation, whose rich endowments and princely possessions offer a prize, which mightworthily excite the controversial abili ties of an Apostle Paul, let alone the spiritual e! forts of a disciple like Webb. Jt will be recollect- ed, perhaps, by those of our readers who tuke any interest in the movements of the churches, that at the period when this Puseyite controversy had cul- minated to its highest point, we took the liberty of stating the real question at iseue,—the right and title tothe posses ion of the loaves and fi-hes.— Mr. Webb has, it appears, since then,waxed some- what more candid and bold, and comes out yester- day with a very frank acknowledgment of the ac- curacy of our view of the matter; and in anela- borate article, vecupying nearly three columns of the Courier, endeavors to show that the tenure, by which the present dispensers of the wealth of Trin- jay Church possess their enviable position; is con- trary to the charter; and that he, with a few such eminent and distinguished and seientific financiers as Mr. Johu Duer, should be permitied to regulate the »ffuirs of that incorporation, in order the better to promote its prosperily, the success of the Pro- testant iscopal faith, the general welfare of Christ’s Kingdom, and the overthrow of the power and dominion of spiritual wickedness in high places. Tt seems that the original grant, in the reign of William and Mary, was made to all inhabitants cf the city of New York in communion with the Pro- testant Church of England. After the organization of a State government, the Legislature, in the year 1734, passed a law reiterating and explaining the terms of the original charter. This law secured to “all persons professing themselves members of the Episcopal Church, who shall either hold, occupy, or enjoy a pew, or seat, in the said church, and such others as shall, in the said church, partake of the holy sacrament of the Lord’s Supper, at least once in every year, being inhuwbitants of the city and county of Nw York,” all the rights and privi- leges conferred by the royal charter. It is under this law that the wardensand vestrymen of Triaity Charch set up the claim to restrict the right of vo- ting to those who actually possessed seats within old Trinity Church, or the chapels erected within the limits of the jurisdiction of this incorporation. Here is where the bone of contention lies. The pious and worthy men who have got their hands into the flesh pots of Egypt, are nowise inclined to relinquish them to a parcel of hungry on-lookers like the Rev Col. Webb, and his associates in this great, disinterested, holy, ecclesiastical movement. The controversy has been carried on, heretofore, ostensibly on the ground of high religious principles. Bat the broad, real ground, has at length been as- sumed. Discussion of theological dogmas has been wisely relinquished, and the tweedle-dums and tweedie-dees of orthodoxy and heterodoxy, Pusey- ism and Mr. Carey. quietly laid on the shelf. It is now openly and undisguisedly a battle for the sprils—instead of the Almighty God, it is the al- mighty dollar. This matter will now be carried before the Legislature, and a long, interesting, and exci. ting contest, accompanied by a gt variety of those minor movements, and intrigues, and in- genious manceuvres, which characterize such af- fairs, may be anticipated. The great conflict will be with respect to the act which passed the legis- lature of this State in 1818, which changed the corporate title of Trinity Church, from “ the rector and inhabitants of our said City of New York in communion of our Protestant Church of England as were established by our laws,” to that of “the rector, churchwardens and yestrymen of Trinity Church in the City of New York.” On the con- stitutionality of thislaw, the council of revision, consisting of the chancellor and judges of the Su- preme Court, were equally divided; but it became the law of th ate, in consequence of a technical informality in the return of the objections. On this law, the present holders of the spoils take up their position. whether this law is not directly in opposition to the original charter and the law of 1781. We very much approve of the new directicn given to this business by our pious friend, Colonel Webb. There is a manliness and respectability about this open avowal of the zeal objects of the controversy which are highly commendable. The struggle must be a keen one, for the prize is great. It is said that the revenue of Trinity Church is hali a million annually. Think of that, ye saints ‘What are ali the crotchets of Dr. Pusey to that? Vaty-Guory versus Jostice.—Dr. Cunningham is very busy in Philadelphia, raising money to bnild free churches in Scotland. In this city about $15,000 have been already subscribed. In this cuse we are presented with a very good illustration of that species of generosity and religious benevolence which is sufficiently active, when perfectly assured that its doings will be appropriate ified to the public with trampets, but which man’ signally quiescent when appealed to in obtrusive way, in behalf of objects which no glittering glory to the world. This is the ehari- ty which senda pale-faced young clergymen to die by dozens amongst the heathens; which builds mag- nificent churches and school houses in In -but has no bowels of compassion for those perishing for lack of knowledge at home. Suppose some phi- lanthropist hid proposed » practical scheme for the amelioration of the miserable, and destitute, and vicious, who herd together in the lanes and alleys | of the city, and fill our prisons and almshouses, is it likely that such asum as that poured into Dr. Cuanningham’s pockets would have been subscribed? Alas! that question has been answered too often If the Pennsylvanians are disposed to lay up treasure in heaven—or, at all events, if they desire to prosper in this world—they would act with much greater wisdom by paying theirdebts,instead of ma+ king maniticent donations to the Chor-hof Seot- land. The widows and orphans, and other smal annuitants, in France and Great Brituin, who have been reduced to beggary, have sur ly better clai on their generosity than this clamorous, oj mouthed church, which stretches its brawny fists over the Atlantic, to grasp the alms of the people of this country. But then there’s no glory in this honest discharge of solemn obligations. Swi Laxcu.—A fine new packet ship, named the Zarich, will be launched to-morrow from Williom R. Webb’s yard, foot of Seventh street. She is for the Havre line, and will be commanded by Captain Jobnaton, formerly of the Albany and Rhone. It only remains now to be tested | ‘The Aequittal of Amelia Norman. Amelia Norman, who wae indicted in the Court nounced by the Jury, which tried her, Not Guilty. This verdict, we are persuaded, is very generally concurred in by the people, whose feelings, in most cases induce a conclusion; but it is altogeth- er a different question whether the law has been perfectly satisfied. We donot mean to charge ‘the jury with having knowingly committed a deliberate error in their decision, nor do we mean to say that they have not decided according to their views of the evi- dence, but we really do say that it is an evil day for the claims of justice, if solemn, weighty charges are to be decided, as they are too often discussed by paid advocates, upon grounds of feeling. The province of the jury is to judge both of the law and the fact, and to render a verdict according to the evidence. In reality their duty, though im- mensely important, is very brief ; for, practically speaking, they take their views of the law from the dicta of the Judge, and by consequence their office simply is to ascertain, from the sworn testimony, whether the offence alleged has been, in point of fart, committed. From facta, too, they have fre- queatly to infer motives asin the case before us, but this, in most instances, is a simple operation, if jaries would but attend to their own deductions, rather than to the dust which counsel invariably aim at throwing into their eyes. One very plausible argument which is often suc- cessfully urged by counsel, is the possibility that the innocent may sufler; and a great deal of elo- quence is let off upon the inspiring. theme, that it is better that a hundred criminals should escape than one individual should wrongfully soffer. Well, as an artifice of rhetoric, we admire the ingenuity of the alternative, and even as a doctrine in morals, we perhaps might find something to say in favor of it; but the case is altogether different when direct testimony is given—that the prisoner has commit- ted the wrong—which is charged. Then, the in- telligence of the jury has not to undergo any very severe ordeal—their duty is too obviousto need pointing eut. Another ingenious piece of sophistry with which iawyers, by courtesy called learned, endeavor to pose an honest jury, is the vast and overwhelming importance of individual liberty. Well, we admire and enjoy liberty as much as any lawyer we know, and in our own way we would defend it as zeal- ously as any advocate, without our earnestness being stimulated by the prospect of a glittering fee; but we humbly conceive that a mightier principle is involved in an honest verdict than even the sacrifice of individual liberty, mach as we are pleased with it. Yes, we are bold enough, is the capital of this naiversal nationjand in the very heart of republican freedom, to declare that some regard must be paid to the existence of the law—that the law must be vindicated even atthe expense of personal liberty, ind that the respectable class, who are compelled to sacrifice it for their country’s good, have not a leg to stand upon in the way of controversy upon this subject. With reference te the ease of Amelia Norman, which has suggested these observations, the jury paid, as we think, too little regard to the terms of the indictment, and too much to the highly colored sppeals of the counsel for the accused. She was charged with stabbing the man—it was proved that her’s was the hand which wounded him, and yet se was pronounced not guilty! There are, of course, many ways of viewing the same thing, and two men may differ as to the color of an apple, but here was an unanimous lack of vision. The true deliverance would have been one of guilt, with a recommendation to mercy, which, if properly fol- | lowed up, might have induced the Executive to issue a free pardon. Let the law, then, in all its majesty, be righteous ly vindieated against all offenders, for it isthe sense its being futhfully administered that constitutes ¢ value of individual liberty, and if the circums stances of any case justify such a course, let “the quality of mercy” be exercised by the Executive. And, for the future, as it seems that juries have a narked indisposition to convict in cases such as Amelia Norman’s, let us protect the weaker sex, as far as law can, by making the frightful crime of se- duction penaL. Fathers and brothers and good citizens, see ye to this. City Intelligence, Common Covxcn..—Both Boards of Aldermen meet to- moriow afternoon at 5 o'clock A large number of pa- mn, iness will be transac: ation to city affairs, if time is not consumed by peeches, &c, Which hus been too much the fashion of late Amntis Noxman —This female left the City Prison yes: terday morning. escorted by Dr McCready to the i ence of Mrs. Childs, the philanthropic female who isin future to guard and protect her {rom the evils that have lately surrounded her, and been the means of placing her in the awfnl situation from which she escaped by the verdict of the jury on Friday night, Police, Office, Jan 20 —Arte: lad named William Bancker, only nineteen years of age, 1 of New Jersey. was arrested on Friday night, et nthe hours of i and nine o’clock, attempting a enter the hall door of the house of Mr William Dubois. {No 13 Crosby street by means of false keys, about 30 fwhich were found in his pockets. A bad’ boy—and fully committed Hoakina A Watcumax —A man named Patrick Ho- an, was placed in the watcuhouse on Friday night, for beating a watchman named Thomas Stevens, mest unmer- cilully, and nearly choaking him tu death. Bailin the amount of $100 was required. Coroner's Office —Jisvany 20.—Drowven in THE docx.—.A man named Edward Barry was drowned on Fri tay night in the East River, by waiking off the end of the Ferry Bridge, at the footof Walnut street He was ana aged thirty-six years, and a drinking man; ed at the time, and about eight o'clock ough the ferry house gate on to the brilge, an’ it was dark and no bar being up at the end, he stepped off nto the water Verdict of the Jury. © Accidentally drowned ® This cross negligence of the keeper, or hands (iat «tend the verry, is highly reprehensible ASanon Hoxe Himsece.—A Port se sailor named Antonio hung himself on Friday nizht on the piazza of the back stoop, where he boarded, No 23 Cherry street. ‘le was about thirty years old, and, about a week since, at BurGtany.—A came from the hospital at quarantine, aud seemed despond. ing in consequence of having lost a brocher. struck himself a eevere blow with a marling wad while at sea. Verdict, enicide by hanging himself. Amusemen Cuataam Tueatre —The manager here had a williant benefit last aight, not ouly in numbers, but that of respectability aad fashion. “The periorman went off with the greatest eclut and the fair de line Ayscough, was received and cheered throngh: with the most flattering marks of upproba She will prove a great card i nager’s pack To-morrow ¢ irely of benefits. Mre Preston heads the list, and takes for a bill the King of the Mist, and the heantiful dramatic spectacle of tne Jewess. The Serena- ers, on the occasion, bring forth several new melod Preston is one of the most graceful, correc: and chaste actresses of the day, and is, as on the stage, in pris vate lie universally respected. She will have a crowded house — The Chat mn mans ment has also, at the Arch reer theatre, Philalelphia, an excellent company, whioh is for anumber of weeks past been doing a flourishing s, and as the company is to be shortly strongly 1 reel. A series of rich spectacles may be looked for by Philadelphia neighbors, Tuene atk Great Arrractions now at the | \mericun Museum Dr. Valentine, Mons. and Ma- ‘ H G Sherman, T G Booth, Great Wes 10 and others give the most magnificent atertainments ‘The Albine Boys are uniformly regard. 1 great wonder, as indeed they are. being perfectly ». Yet possessing every feature and peculiarity of the anrace. ‘The Gypsey Queen ix agreat favorite with era, und her apariments are crowded early and late, all eager to hear her wonderful revelations of their re: spective destinies Tue Rev BE. K. Avery Riney on a Rate.—Har- tusnura, Midnight, Jan 18 —This evening, about half afierten o'clock. the citizens were alarmed by the atest row, perhaps, Harristt ever witnessed. The K Avery made his appearance at the Washington on toaddress the vd. and no svoner Clark, from your that “this man was the murderer of Mist and instantly abont # doven of young men seiz A the reverend gentleman and ran hia ont— procured ] ait. on which they rode him throngh several streets, and finally gave him A ducking in the canal. By this time h Constables Bostick and Schott hearing of the rint, J with a posse, and rascued the Rav. Sir, perhaps, om awatery grave It is now nearly twelve o’ lock, | ond there are great gatherings of people in thetown. Ii | soy thing farther happensto him I shall inform you to- | "orrow.— Correspondence Philad. Chronicle. | 17. enue Court or tar Unrren States.—Jan 1344--Oo motion of Gen, Howard, William Smith. eq, of Virginia, was admitted an attorney and counsellor of this court. No 16 William R. Hanson et a), plaintifis in error, va. John H. Eustace. The argu. of this cause was continued by Messrs, Guillon and Fallon for the defendant in error. Jan 18—-No. 16. William R. Hanson, plaintiff in error, ve. John H. Eustace. The argument of this cause wae evntinued by Mr. Fallon for the in errer. of Sessions, for an attempted murder, has been pro-_ BY THE SOUTHERN MAIL. Wi gion. (Correspondence of tee Herald.) Wasuuwoton, Jan. 18, 1844. In my this day’s preeeding despatch I said in a posiscript that Mr. Porter would be rejected. The statement is made by a Senator whose name I know not—but I have no doubt that he has told the truth. A distinguished member of the House re- commends that thePresident go on with his adminis- tration with the aid of his clerks alone—I suppose, that is, in case the Senate does not feel disposed to confirm his appointmenta, ‘ The late news from Texas is looked upon here as authentic, and of the highest importance. 1 re- ferto the desire lately manifested by the Texian Cungress to have Texas annexed to the United States. It is expected here that whenever the Oregon measures shall come up for action, the friends of ** annexation” will propose that measure by way of amendment. This will bring up boldly both measures. ; z 4 There is one most important fact in relation to the occupation and possession of the Oregon Ter- ritory, and one which I would not mention at the close of a letter, were it not to ask you to call par- ticular attention to itin yourown Way. From the undivided representation from the West—who on this subiect represent one undivided feeling and in- terest—I learn that the western people will never relinquish to any other power under heaven the ocenpation and possession of the Oregon Territory Congress may do what it pleases—legislate as it pleaves—and *log-roll” as it pleases; the North and East may do what they please—an the South may do what it Dlepeeteeset no contingency, no possible court can change the deliberate, settled determination of the western people to possess, oc- cupy and spproneiate in fee simple the Oregon Territory. 1 make these statements as I receive them from the undivided western representation and senatorial phalanx—and the sooner these facts are understood, both by the Beane of the United States, and by other countries, the better. It isrumored that Commodore Stewart has been offered the Seeretaryship of the Navy, ad «nterim, bat declined aecenting it. [understand that Mr. Henshaw has left the dep yrtment altogether. You may expect thit Mr Wise will receive his ap- poiatment without delay, either to Brazil or rance. 8. B. Wasuiyeron, Jan. 19, 1844, } Half past 11 A. M. James Gorvon Bensett, Esq.— Dear Sir In great haste (forin half an hour the Senate meets and McDuffie begins his speech) I communi- cate to you a few facts. Somebody has egregiously duped your anony, mous correspondent here whose brief communica- tion in the Herald, of Thursday 18th, tells you that “Gov. Gilmer has been offered the Secretaryship of the Navy—wi.l accept, and be confirmed”— neither of which statement is true. On Monday next, and not before, I will endeavor to give you some anthentic information as to the appointee to the of- fice of Secretary of the Navy. Mr. Wise will very shortly receive the appoint ment to Brazil. And T have reason to believe thr Senate will confirm him. They are understood to be( more) favorable to him. Mr. Forks as I wrote to you yesterday, will be rejected. ‘And it appears to be now definitiveiy helieve—that Mr. Spencer will be * hung ye The vacancy upon the bench in the Supreme Conrt may continue till the close of this Congress (in 1845. ‘ Frivay, Jan. 19—12 M. New Post Office Bill. Thave this morning obtained from the Hon. Mr. Merrick, Chairman inthe Senate of the Committee on Post Offices and Post Routes, the following outline of his bill upon Post Office reform, which he will very shortly present to the Senate Postage on all letters under 100 miles, Do do over do... ee All newspapers free within the county where they are published Do out of the county. and of the size of the Courier & Enquirer, (say 1326 square inches.) un- der 100 miles... 66s... ce eee Do do over 100 miles... All pamphlets and other printed matter, of every description, per ounce, VU dbleie sg The franking privilege totally abolishe A limited and reasonable number of free stamps allowed to M. O's, All letters, &e free to M. Franking allowed to the President and heads of Depart. ments. Mr. Merrick says the bill from the Committee is now being copied, and will ehorily be presented and printed. He believes it willbe generally ac- ceptable to the people 3. B. TWENTY-EIGHTH COVGRE: FIRST SESSION. Senate. Wasuineton, Januagy 18, 1°44. Mr. Huntineton has, the floor in reply to Mr. Woodbury. And here it is proper to suv that this debate has attracted much attention . - d interest ‘The galleries are filled with fair Jac: s accompa- nied by theirgallants. The lower floor is crowd- ed with members from the House, and other gen- tlemen of distinction, intently listening to the de- bate. The great question in this argument is whether abillto dimini h revenue is a bill to raise revenue “*A billthat don’t add to taxation, is not a bill to raise revenue.” Suppose, says Mr. H., that a bili were passed here to diminish the revenue—that it zoes to the House, where it is amended by increa- sing the revenue it originally sought to reduce—it then comes back tothe Senate, where it is concur- redin. Itis then sent to the President, who ve- ioesit. Now to which House must the President send back the bill with his reasons? Ans.—Mani- festly he must send it back to the, Senate, where It originat’ would have settled—Iso + 5 cts. In haste, ¢ Thus a revenue bill a originated in the Senate, contrary to the constitu- tion. Mr. Huntington concluded with asserting that a bill which is essential to the collecting of tax, and without which a tax cannot be collected, ia bill or law to raise revenue. If it were a case of doubt, he thought it far better, in a matter of sc nuch importance, that the bill should be originated n the House. ‘ Mr. Bucntanan suggested an objection which he lesired the Senator from South Carolina (Mr. Me- Onffie) to answer when he should make his speech, which, of course, he would not undertake to do at his late honr of the day (3 P.M) Itis this, thar he Senate have power to originate a bill which i: us not power to amend. Thus—suppose the Se- rate were to originate a bill to reduce the revenue —which according to the views of the Senator rom 8. C., (McD ) it has the power to do—has the Senate power to amend it; and if it has, may not chat amendment be one to raise the revenue from twelve to twenty or from twenty to thirty percent? snd would it not then palpably become a bill tc raise revenue? He desired | Senatox from 8. C. on this poiut when he should make his speech, Mr. McDurrie then rose and asked that the Se- vate would either adjourn or go into Executive Session. The Senate adjourned, So to-morrow we may expect a great speech from Mt. McDuffie—not only upon the powers of the Senate to originate the proposed bill to reduce the tariff, but also upon the merits of the b self Wasuinaton, Jan. 19th. Lone Isuand Rare Roav.—Mr. Wriewr pre- ented a petition from thiscompany, asking a renvis- son of duties upon Railroad iron. The petition referred to Committee on Finance, and Mr. W, lesired it might be printed. 4 ‘ {Quarter past 12 M.—The gallery is filling up ra- oo ir densely with ladies, to hear McDultie’s veech "Fox Mec Wisconsin Riyvers.—Some further amendments were made in this bill, already refer- red to—when it was postponed. Comrromise Act. 3 Mr. MecDurvte’s speech —His exordium war upon the constitutional provisions to secure the people from unjust and oppressive taxation. Tc this end all bills to raise revenue must originate i: the House. The ge and real object of the claus: referred to in the constitution, is to prevent the Senate from originating any additional taxation ot the people. But this is not a bill ginating taxation, It is most, emphatically a bil: repealing taxation—to reduce duties. ‘The bill does not propose to repeal the 20 per cent duty, as insist- ed upon by the other side, Let that duty stand The Senator's argument is like that of the betters at a horse race, who bet $20 on the race, whieh vent egainst him, and he insisted that he had | 840—he lost the $20 which he bet, and the $2¢ nore which he might have won. In answer toan- nator (Buchanan) he would siy that th had no power to make an amendment tr Let the House make as many such amendments as they choose. As to the tariff of 742, he refretted that the “peacemaker” was not here to defend it. Doubtless the Senator from Maine [Evans] feels @ paternal affection for the tariff of 1842—he had a. special agency im getung it up. But he hoped that Se- nator would sacrifice his purental feeling: upon the altar of public fiith and jurtice tariff of 42 is a mongrel, with the head and body of ainan and the tall of a fish, It professes to raise revenue by the imposition of duties, Let us in- quire into the extent and character of the revenue id of the U. Stat What and where is the of distinction between duties for revenue and saesanciinaiennsap.ntetiney tesmenintte erin eatonsinrin meremonsnnne enone tnt Maren RE OE protection’ dowa is raising don. It is a right incident to all free ng t ae ry Ah te coasuciian ars government:—4 revenue duty ( lowest she compte es by the pogsible ‘AD VALOREM, rates Fpovetoly we Legmad 7 Sd of the Gmount af Ce il this a re- | ‘en's petition for the abolition of slavery in the Distt venue tariff?’ Mr. McDuffie i d that a 20} of Columbia, what they mean when they present peti- per cent duty would’ raise more revenue than the present tariff, and withal would not tax one class of people for the benefit of another, in de- fiance of all right and justice. Discrimination is proper and necessary for, raising revenue, not for wrotection, The trae principle is to impose the | highest possible burdens upon the people, and im- | pose the heaviest duties npon those commodities consumed exclusively by the rich, and the highest | rates upon those required by the poor. at | Mr. MeD. illustrated his agamien and positions | with. various illustrations, from the duties upon | tron, salt, calicoes, &c, J a He is now going at length into all the statistical details of the whole subject. House of Representatives. Wasuineton, Thursday night, Jan. 18. A Scene before the Morning Hour—Postage and ing—The Twenty-First Rule, and the Great Watern Waters—Eztravagance of Mr. Van Buren’s Administration. uite an amusing scene occurred in the House to-day soon after it met. The saying of prayers and reading of the Journal, somehow or other, did not occupy over four minutes, when a motion made by Mr. of Pennsylvania, to suspend the rules to allow him to present a resolution grant- ing the use of the hall of the louse of Represen- tatives for an adjourned meeting of the Colonization Society to-night. The Speaker put the question on suspending the rules, when only about 85 members were found voting. Sees is no quorum voting. (Laugh- ter. A Memuer.—I call for the ayes and noes, sir, (Laughter, and cries of ‘ No.”’) The question was put, and the demand for the ayes nd noes was not ied. Speaker —Only 18 gentlemen rising. The ayes and noes were not ordered. A Memper.—Was there any great dinner party last night? (Laughter) Gaxrerr Davis.—I ask for tellers, sir,on the de- mand for the ayes and noes Spraxer.—Iv’s too late, sir. The ay: have been refused. Cries of * ‘Too late—give it up—no quorum—let’s zo home—divide” Srraxer.—A division is called for on suspending the rules, f The House passed between the tellers in all less than one hundred members. (Much and noes ed an answer from the | Spraker.—No quorum voting, again. laughter.) G. Davis,—I now call for the ayes and noes, sir, on Srpcafliogthe tules, : Brack (of Ga )—They’ve been refused, sir, and can’t be called for again. Sreakxer.—As the House has voted, and no quo- rum, the Chair thinks they can. Buack.—Well, sir, then I move a call of the House. (Laughter.) Spraxen.—Those in favor of a call of the Honse will please to rise. (About15 rose.) There is evi- dently a maiority down, , Buack.—There is not a quorum voting. I de- mand a count. i A count was made, amid much laughter. Sreaker.—l4 in the affirmative, and 88 in the ne- zative. No quorum voting. Here there was considerable laughter and amuse- ment. Perrit —Mr. Speaker, I move the House ad- journ! (Roars of laughter, for it was now only a quarter past 12 o’clock. Mr. Frick.—Yes, sir, and I move the House ad- journ. (Increased laughter.) f “ _ Speaker—Does the gentleman insist on his mo- tion that the House do now adjourn—(Laughter.) Fricx—Yee, indeed 1 do; certainly Sir—(Laugh- ter Wersen—And I call the yeas and nays on that, Sir. (They were ordered )- Spr axer—Gentlemen, it is moved and seconded that this House do now adjourn, and on this ques- ion the yeas and nays have beenordered. Gentle- men, as many of you as are in favor of the House adjourning, will, as your names are called, answer “faye.” those of a contrary opinion will answer “no.” The clerk will call the roll. (Laughter.) Crerx.—John Quincy »dams. Apams.—(emphatically) No! (Increased laugh- ter! "Aher the roll was called, a member from India- ane Hed out, ‘Mr. Speaker, I wish my vote re- corded.” oe PEAKER.— Was the gentleman within the bar at the time his name was called ? Memner.—No, sir. (Much laughter.) A ert gentleman cannot be allowed to , then. i Memurr.—I suppose I can, by the unanimous consent of the House. (Laughter.) Hupsox.—Or hadn’: you better move a suspen- of the rules? (Laughter.) he yeas and nays were counted ; ayes, 1; noes 158. So the House did not adjourn. Sreaxer.—The question now occurs on the sus- vension of the rules, and on this the yeas and nays have been ordered. 5 Srewart —It’s hardly necessary, sir, to take the yeas and nays on that!” Speaner.—The Chair would remark to the gen- leman, that the yeas and nays have been ordered, and that the question is not debatable. ist a eh | nays were again called ; ayes 129; nays 47, The rules were then suspended, and the resolu- ion to let the Colonization Society have the use of the Hall, was agreed. By this time it wanted ‘ive minutes. So nearly the first hour was spent n this way. Mr. Apams called forthe orders of the day. ‘This was the reconsideration of the resolution calling on the postmaster for full iuformation about ‘ranking, drop letters, paid letters, &c. &c., which { mentioned the other day. ‘ Mr. Horxins.—Sir, J have now a copy of the ci cular sent by the Postmaster-General to the di ‘erent post offices through the country, and I think that ils all the information that can be re- juired. i The heads of the circular were read by the clerk. ‘tealls for a full return of Cotal number of letters, newspapers, and magazines sent by mail. aid letters. ree letters franked by postmasters, « “ «” government. sio: « We Nae 1, ate “ «drop letters. « “newspapers ' wo free, “4 + chargeable. Votal number of magazines, pamphlets, and periodicals— free and charged. All for the month of October last. : tr. Horxiys said when these returns all came in rom the different postmasters, the House could rave them printed. Mr. Patrerson.—That does not embrace all the information we want, Sir. We wish to know how nuch freeing is dove by 15,000 fap postmas- ters, and by the Government and al ihe different lepartments serait. I understand, Sir, the Postmaster General had his clerks at work for ree months last year to find this out, and he can in any sense ori- | Ths! asily lay it before this House. Also the amount of mailable matter carried by private expresses. ] | snow the Postmaster General has corresponded “xtensively on this subject, and he ought to give 1s the information. The whole system is wrong, ind requires reform; but let us not act without full information. The House then reconsidered the resolution; and Mr. Patterson offered a substitute. This called on he Postmaster General to state to the House a sy- opsis of all the returns made to him by the deputy ostmasters ; also the amount of franking done by ll the Departments exceptthe Post Office Depart- nent; also the amount of franking done by that Jepa tment, and by deputy postmasters, all over he country, all for one year; also the amount of vailable matter that went through other channels And the amount of postage received by every post- naster forthe last quarter in 1841 and 1842. (This -esolution giving rise to debate, lays over.) Tue Twevry-Finst Rove Speaken.—The next question, on recommitting he report on the rules. i Mr. Conn.—I was saying sir, last Saturday, that hose petitioners would net, as many say, be satis- ied with a mere reception of their petitions. I rou receive them, you mnst take another step; you must hear them read. Then you must go stilla te further, and you must take action upon them. { (fF not, the excitement will continue, and another Congress will be called upon to do so. And you vill never allay this excitement until those peti- ions take the same course that all other petition: take. Now, we of the South say that you must top this movement at the very threshold. Meet i tonce; and theretore | approve of my colleague’: teneny amendment to instruct the committee te ceportthis rule. ‘There is no half way house where yu can stop in this matter. You must take one joxtreme or the other, And though nothing woul cive me greater satisfaction than to see all parts o/ ‘is Union acting in unison and harmony upon atl ubieets, yet. we cannot overleap the barriers placec in the constitution by our forefathers, and there- fore T am thoroughly and devotedly determined te | so for the maintenance of this 21st rule, Mr. Hupsow, (of Mase)—I rejoice, Mr. Speaker, tha’ vin subject of the Bist role js at last fairly before thi Jonge, and | nlso rejoice that this subject, which has cre veil so much excitenent, both in and out of this House ‘ux been discussed with so much fairness and moderation, J am oppose: to re the Jebate hax proceeded. mmitting this report, sir, because Tam be cy fed to the t rule, which I believe violates one of the fundamen tal principles of the coostitution. But, sir, Sire who have based their arguments in favor of the right o! petition solely upon conatitation, have not J gd far enough. The right of petition lies deeper, and is more vaored even than any to be found in the constitu- ions on any other subject. What is the common sense of his right ?° It consists of people assembling, drawing up ‘paper setting forth certain things, presenting it here,and ing it considered. ‘The same as in the case of tl lition “of @ revolutionary soldier for a pension, W ‘ent to acommittee—they enquire into its merits, and re- port to this House either for or aguinst it. The gentleman trom Georgia (Cobb) is right. We ask you to do the same by these petitions as you do in every other case. If the petition is of such a character that its nature and merits can be understood and decided upon by merely reading, then reed only; but if itcannot be understood without deliberation, then refer it at once. By the constitution, the liberty of speech, the freedom of the press, and the right of petition are all placed side by side on the same broad ground. One is as sacred asthe other. The gen- tleman from South Cerolina (Rhett) said that gnevians of petition consisted merely in rising here, stating briefly that, we have such and such petitions, lay them on the ta- ble, and that there this right terminates. Now, apply his argument to the right of debate, Suppone be was ‘o rise here and claim the right to. express his i bject, and he was to be told that his right 8 iefly explaining the object he had in view, and was then told to take his seat. Would not that be re- js House, and to him, And yet ement of the object of the p the sum and substance of the right of petition — Last year that very gentleman came out with an address to thé people uguinst the one hour rule, which he aid abridged the freedom of debate. ‘Chat limiting speeches to one hour did this And yet he would place the right of petition in an infinitely worse position, altnough it stands in the Constitution by the side of the right of de- bate. ‘The Constitution says the Government shall pass no law to abridge the right of petition. And yet they in- sist that this House alone has the power to do that h the whole government is prohibited from doing by the law ot the jaud. ‘To suppose that the House can do that by a the entiregovernment cannot do by law, absurd to argue upon. As well might we say th Honse, by @ rule, could establish titles of nobility, or # particular form of religion. Now, sir, I believe there should be a consideration of all petitions, as welt as a re: ception which the gentleman trom New York seems to think is oll that is necessary. Branverey—-I by no means, say sir, that a mere recep- tion is the full enjoymentof the right of petition, Bur when we know its contents and character, and we act at vnce by lying it on the table, that we thus consider it be- ing prepased to act upon it us weld as though we had re- jerred itto a Committee, aud kept it there six months. |) is the same in judicial decisions, where a judgment is en instanter from the whole matter argued being known belore to the judges. And this course of action with eae that are well known, is a full enjoymento X I am glad to see the gentleman take that Because many of the petitions rejeeted hy this dist rule, have been uf @ very grave character, and contained sound and abstruse legal arguments. And the best legal talent in the country Would he divided on them and they wonld require the serious consideration of any committee, Some gentleman saythat Congress has no righ’ to grant the abolition of slavery inthis district. Sir, Con gress has full power of exclusive legislation in this mat- ter. ‘Their right extends to all legitimate cases of legislation, Congress may do any thing in this Distrie: that they can constitutionally do anywhere else.— ‘This power of legislation in Congress.which is exclusive over the District, extends to everything that’s a proper subject of legislation. ‘Chere is no limitation of this power in the deed of cession. And if there had been, Congres: had no power to receive this, or any other district, except on the terms laid down in the Consiituti I it receivec it at all, C must have full legislative power over it The quet u then, sir, reselves itsel! into this. Is the aboliuon of slavery a fit subject fur the legislative action of Congress. Why, sir, there isn civilized nation under the sun, where this subject has not been acted upon.— every free State in the Union has legislated upon it, and acted upon it. And look atthe slave States. ‘they have one and ail admitted that this is a proper subject tor legis lation, and that Congress has full power to legislate wit! regard to slavery in the District of Columbia Why, it the Virginia Legislature they passed resolutions for a mending the Constitution, so as to prevent Congress from abolishing slavery in this District except with the consen of Virgiuia and Maryland; and on the terms laid down by them. - Here, then, is an express recognition of the powe of Congress over this matter, and that it is a proper sub- ject for legislation. All the laws passed by the slave States relative to the regulation of their slaves, are so many ad issions that itisa proper and legal snbject for legisle- ion, In the Convention for adopting the Constitution, 1 was expressly stated that Cong) ess should have full pow er to abolish slavery in this District. And in the Virgini» Convention this was opposed by Patrick Henry and sup ported by Mr. Madison, who said it was not only right fo: Congress to have that power, but it was absolutely neces. sary, and that this must commend itself to every thinking mind, he abolition of the Slave Trade is itsel in that Congress has the power to legislat: It is not contended that this governmen: has any power to legislate with respect to slavery withi the States; but it has within the Territories und this Dis trict, the same power over slavery that the States hay over it within themselves. And f{ ask gentlemen from the slay States to reconcile the acta of legislatior within those States with their broad denial of ()« right of Congress to legislate m regard to slave ry here There is not a statesman that hax bee: it Congress but hax admitted directly or impliedly that slavery comes within the purview of legislation. it is said we are local legislators here, and must consult the people of the District before we a did we do so when we abolished the sale of lottery tickets in the Dis viet? No, sir. Wethought they were pernicious, and we the sale of them. So in extending the right o ¢ inthe town of Alexandria. Are the views, then of the people only to be consulted here on the subject 01 slavery? ‘This is idle. We are asked would Marylan: and Virginia have ceded this District if they had though: hat Congress would abolieh slavery in it? Why, sir, « shat very time, ther leading men had serious thoughts o: abolishing slavery in those States. But if you give or seli mea deed of a farm, I havea right to work it or use it as | lease. So when they ceded this 10 miles square, they knew that they thereby gave to Congress the full powe: P t pleased with the District as fur as acts of legis ere concerned. It comes with a very ill grace then, from men of Virginia aud Maryland to say that i) hey’ had known Congress woul” abolish slavery in it t ver woul have ceded the District. It amounts t« If 1 had known that you would till that farm jus as you thought proper, | never would have given you the leed of it.” ‘The deeds of ce Eno limitation with regard to slavery, and if they had, Congress took ossession of the District under that clause of the Consti ution which deciares that it shall allow no power under eaven to exercise concurrent jurisdiction with it. Sc ‘ar even as objection in the matter of limitation was con- itcan apply only to Virginia. And how was i! vith that State! She givaher portion of the District t« ongress in full and absolute right—-(Rap went th Speaker's hammer ) Speaker —The morning usked indulgence of the I communications. Among these was a report from the Secretary of War stating that it was uiterly mpossible to give the names of all those soldiers, kc, in the two wars who had claims igainst the government for lands ormoney. ‘Cave Jonsson offered a resolution calling for the name: of all claimants and all others appointed to various office: hronghout the country under no particular law, wha alaries they have received, and what services they’ have performed since 1841 ‘Mr, Wivrnnor amended this by adding “since 1937) md it was adopted So we shall now have the names © he secret service men. Mr Guster reported a bill to separate the Governmen' srinting from the newspaper press. Mr. Rewpina objec'ed, and it les over, The House then went into Commirree oF tue Waowr n Tur Wrstrun Waters, Mr. A. Stewanr, of Penn. (who had the fleor) said—Th+ sentleman from Missouri, who spoke the other day or his subject, said that we were the coon party —the frag nents and fag end of a party—that we'd been weighed 1» he balaver and fund wanting Now, sir, I shall not say inything about Mr. Van Buren having weighed he balance and found wanting, and that he’s a great deal hed, (Much But the gentieman from Ohio said | made : Sir the speech was not the one J intende: 1 wus so interrupted by noise and confusion hour has expired. The Chair louse to lay before it Executive ighter now than he was when’ he was w aughter tamp Br ind c!amor, and | was stopped by so many questions, anc surtailed by the Speaker himself, that the speech waa ne essarily an extemporaneous one But Ihave no doub fone sense it was a stump speech to the gentleman xpect it did stump him, It «o stumped him that he can’ answer it’ But he had his sympathies wonderfully ited about a snag in the Mississippi. | am afraid that more troubled about his own potitical bow mughter) Now, sir, he said hed prove all I si at Mr. Van Buren ws fa or he'd take the brand forehead—(Mr Weller explained), The gentlem: narrowed down his point, Sir, the other day, he went ly on a quibble a mere quirk about a report in apa ver. He said all my charges about Mr, Van Buren were intrue; and | now repeat that all I said about Mr. Van jnren was true; an I have the documents here to prove talltrne. [said Mr. Van Buren, in 1938, withheld the ap- ropriations that had been made for years for the Cum verland Road; and! have here the letters from the offle mploved en that road showing the necessity at that time of making these appropriations. The Secretary of War iad always sent these anpropriations into this House as it vas his duty tod hat year both Mr. VanBuren and vis: Secretary w lent as the grave about theac nti a ery appropriations; because according to his previously rela red policy, it the House had passed them, he must to © consistent have vetoed the bill. And at the very time e withheld this sum, he doubled the expenses of thr overnment neatly trebled them. And I have the ‘ocuments here te prove this; and therefore T hope the entleman will take that brand of falsehood. He must de 1, sir; for Twant te pnt that brand somewhere— (Laugh In Mr Adams's administration, the annual expen- were $12600000; and besides thie he paid off ne ees than $45,000,000 of the public debt in four years. In 897, the expenses of Van Bur'n’s administration were 7,243 000, and he paid only $21,872 for the public debt 1.Van Buren found « surplus of $45,000,000—he spent all hat and left the country $3,900,000 in debt and mora con- cacted for, Will hedeny that ? Sir, I think the gentle- ian will get completely snagged down before Ive done ith him ?—(Langhter) When, Gen. Jackson was in 1@ Senate, he went for internal improvements and @ pro. ctive tariff of the highest kind, But when he took thir vagician into his councils, the most rninons course of oliew was adopted, and the States were therehy involved va debt of $200,000.000 And ret Mr. Van Buren did not <pendas mich for intemal improvements nx it cost to vild this hall And how can gentlemen from the wee honre sonnxious for internal improvements vote for t. Van Buren as nresident. whose policy is to veto all ese meagnres Sir, in ten vents under a protective not Revenue Tari, we paid off $196 000,000 of the public Dt. Inthe Inst'yenr there was paid off $17 640,209 29 of 16 pubdlie debt by means of that protective Tariff ad if it had been continned we wonld have id at least $20,000,000 at this day to expend among \e States for internal improvements, withont involving \e States or the general government @ sii dollar in ‘A Mewnen.—Oh, how rich we should h Stuant.—Vee, sir, if that protective s ontinued, this country woul en prosperous nd happy—agriculture, commerce and manufactures, all, Il would have prospered. And Mr Ven Buren said the improvements wes to distr. mean to say the distribu: Ir Ven _ yt Sr ‘I did say so—! at eon so ;andT can prove it, (Lau; ): The whigs never intended to ap- propriate a doller for internal improvements beyond the surplus revenue—that would have been ample, sir, $18,- 000,000 @ year. But the veto of the Maysville Road Bill struck down all these improvements and prostrated every thing. Itthrew these $18,000,000 hack on the Treasury. The har cried“dewn with \he Tariff to decrease the reves ane.” Now it is down with the Tariff to increase it.”— And so they down with the Tariff, to do every hing.” Mr. Van Buren was in tavor of distributing the to arrest internal bate tae revenue. surplus revent He did so. Hetempted the on with works for internal improvement. He them ull involved. Then he chi his views, the law repealed, and struck down all improvements and ruined ost of the States. Gen. Jackson vetoed the bill to improve the Wabash river. Mr ‘Van Buren approved of thie ; and said that the power to improve it not only did pot exist, but iat the consent ofthe Slate could aticaner thi power. tl can gentlemen ween im; te Wabeah aod the Missistipph Bir, we derive the pow. erto do this from the Feds Government and not the consent of the States, or from any compact; these can’t enlarge the powers of the Federal Government The question is not so much one of power, as it is of the fitness and bd i? ‘of the means to be employed in regulating the great interests of the country. Sir, I have ‘hus proved what I said of Mr Van Buren, and now let the Cpr: = from Ohio (Weller) take the brand of false- 00 er) on his forehead, and wear it there for ever—(Laugh- Wextrn.—Sir, [intend to say something on this subject (o-morrow, since it has assumed the curious shape it has ‘or the last two days, And in doing £0, I shall follow ont hat good adage of scripture, “ Answer a fool according o his folly, let he grow worse in his own conceit.” (Roars of laughter.) ‘The committee then rose and reported progress!!! A motion wax made an« carried that all debate shall cease m this subject, at 2 o’clorh on Saturday next, when the fouse shall proceed to vote onit, ‘The House then adjourned. ‘Wasnineton City, Fray Nieut, Jan. 19, 1844. Post Office Committee—The 25th Rule—The Wesiera Waters for the last day but one—A Melo-dramatit Scene —Almost a Tragedy! On motion of Mr. Vance,the rules were suspend- sd to allow of the presentation of reports from committees. Several reports were then presented from various committees, , Mr. Apams asked the Chairman of the Post Of- ice Committee when that committee would be -eady te report. Mr. Hopkins said that it was impossible to say. The subiest was a very important Gne—it required vgreat deal of deliberation and the examination of numerous docnments and statistics. fo reportin a few weeks. Mr. Owen reported a bill allowing the transfer of the stock of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal in order to ensure its speedy completion, and recom: nending its passage. Mr. Winturor made a report from the select Committee on Copyrights, and returned several pa- vers to the desk. Tue Twenry-rinst Rute Acain. The orders of the day then came up, being the mann to recommit Mr. Adam’s report un the” ules. Mr. Hupson, who had the floor, spoke for ten miuutes, that being the balance of his hour left wer from yesterday. | He said that on examination ie found that the Legislature of Maryland used pre- isely the same language as the "Legislarure of Virginia did, in the deed of cession, giving the Dis- rict of Columbia to the United Stutes. And the inguage used in that act is just as general as that of the Constitution itself, and as far as slavery is concerned, isin fact the same as though there was 10 limitation whatever. And it leaves the subject o that no other laws than those passed by Congress lone shall have effect in the district. Ie Contress ‘oes not possess sovereign power over the District, hen eoveraian, power does not exist here at all. We are asked, if the framers of the Constitution ver contemplated such scenes as are winessed laily on this floor. I answer, “yes, sir;’?? and dur- ng the first session of the first Congress the subject felavery was fully discussed by southern gentle- nen themselves, as freely as it is by us now. And in the act relating to the duty on imports, it vasmoved by a member from Virginia to tax all ‘laves that were imported; when a member from Jeorgia said that this came with a very bad grace tom Virginia, who had got ker supply of slaves, to ax those States that were not supplied. And i nat debate Mr. Madison contended that Congress iad the full right to legislate on the subject of lavery in the Territories and Districts; and added hat it was a curse, an evil—that weakened a na- ion; and he used strong arguments to support his vosition. », it has been said that the north has rot up a false issue on this subject—and let me tell entlemen of the south that their issue on the right {petition is equally false; wnd just sp sures they ress this subject———(Rap went thé-haaenety Sreaker—The geutleman’s hour has expired.— aughter.) »xpens of North Carolina—Mr, Speaker, if gentle- He hoped 8. nen contend that they have the right to petition whenever ind whatever they please, there Was nu necessity for the centleman from New York to travel up to Magna Charta oshow the existence of that right. But, sir, I go a step far- her, and say they have a right to havea decisive om this subject. “But that can be got by hearing t enta stated and decisively refusing to entertain th zentlemen euy we can’t abridge the right of petition any nore than wecan abridge the freedom of debate. Now, ir, isnot the one-hour rule a literal abridgment of the reedom of debate Yet it is employed to stop an ubuse. 40 the freedom of the press is literally abridged when it s prosecuted for libel. This is tostop abuses of the press, © the 2ist Rule is to stop abuses of petitioning. But I contend all these petitioners are heard, The speaker rears a brief statement of the petition, and says “T vave heard pour prayer, and decide that your peti ion cannot he received.” And he can’t decide until ie has heard what the prayer of the petition is— nthe case ot the pension of a revolutionry soldier, you efer his petition because you don't know its contents. 3ut if he states briefly that he has only served three es reject his petition because the fect in stated id the faw refnses to entertain his petition. So of the ition of a soldiers widow. who married him after he eft the service ; you refuse her prayer hecaure you know he fact, and the law says you tall grant her no relief. sir, T contend that you have no right to abolish elavery in he District of Colimbia, for the Constitution gives you \o power to spend money for any such purpore; and the centlemen all admit the right of the masters to property nthese slaves, and that they should be pwid for thew vhenever they are liberated: And none but a-maniac vould deny this right. ‘This right was recognized by the aws of Virginia and Maryland when they made this ces- ion, declaring that the master bad a right to property in sis slaves for ever—(He here read from the Constitution o show that Congress had no power to expené money to yay the owners laves) Sir, 1 sbull use no hreats in this se J believe that they have no fect. I will not say that the abulition of slavery in the district of Columbia will amount to a dissolution of the inion ; but if ever that law is passed, there is no man of he Southern States. unless he is an infidel to his princi. ues and to nis State, but will say to his people in the outh, “stand to your arms!” Sir, if the majority can ass a law to abolixh slavery in this District, why do gen- lemen come here and clamor for the right which you say vat you already poss Sir, Iconsider the confidence hat exists between a re he brightest gem in the diadem of the representstl ry would be the last man to sully its lustre. But I say centlemen, if you are not prepared immedistely to abolish very in the District of Columbia, why bring these pee ions here pray ing for that object ? ity ou are prepared o do this, then it is idle to bring them here at all. \nd if you mean to abolish slavery here, in God's same do it at once, Come ont like men, that ve may know what we have to depend upon, and that we nay take up our ground at once. ‘The gentleman from Jassachusetts (Adams) save that he expects to take hi tand high in Heaven hereafter, on the ground of advoei ing this so-called right of petition. Sir. he ie for the vox t the gentleman from New York, (Benrdsley,) on ther hand, is courtingthe vor } wndfrom the ng and coomg that | see going on around him, Pm fraid, sir, that that vor populi is the voice of the abolition- 4 ny portion of the northern demo- rats—the leaders or othera—wish the assistance of there sew allies, for God's seke Jet them come ont like men and ay so. Let us know it atonce, But! tell you that as oon as you join with these fanatics, that instant the de- rocracy of the south will cut loose from the concern; and shall ask the demecracy of the south to discharge the vhole of ‘em from our ‘ranks, and let the devil take the ‘indmost Sir, hitherto we have been i ule by the democrats of the north. Not orth of Mason’s and Dixon's line ever voted with us save one, and he was unfortu ly guillotined the other day t the other end of the capitol. (Proffit) And if the vorthern democrats now choose to abandon us to enrry Wor wi h the miserable abolitionists, let them say so at nee §and we'll take up our position. For us, ovr mind ia ade up, and we will not yield one inch of ground on this juestion of reception. Here Gen, Saunpens was cut short by the expiration of he morning hour, at ten minutes hefore two. Several executive communications were then received, Mr. Duxcas then introduced # bill, which was reed wice, providing for a uniform plan for electing’ members if Congress, q on referring the elevent! ection of the President's message relative C4 the Pend on nent of Tay Wearenn Warr: Mr. Werrer, who had the floor, then rone, and & honld reply to Mr. Stuart's attack on Mr. Van pena f Mr. Weiira—] shall not enter into the subject of thi wference of this part of the mesenge, sir, because | have Irendy discuesed it. But T hall endeavor to anawer the entleman from Pennsylvania Sir, thie debate waa care ied on with perfect order until the gen'leman from Pen ylvania chose to inflict a speech upon this House. Sir, T 0 not feel compelled to notice such a apecch from ach @ ouree; nor should | do it, but that ft places meand my junds, and Mr. Van Buren, who is known to be m: for the next Presidential campoign, in_a false pow ‘at lenst that wae the studied object of the gentle. * speech)—in a false position in regard to western jprovements. Now, sir,in reference to what he said ‘out Mr. Von Buren’t opinions on the improvement of 1@ Cumberland roud, the vers ant the ‘arbors of the upper lakes, I again it that his assers ons are untrue, He said, sir,that Mr. Van Buren or cred his Secretary not to send in the estimates for the "umberland road, because if they were sent in and pasted ongress he muat veto the bill. The gentleman now ries to shuffle out of it by saying that he drew the infer. re that Mr, Van iy os a come ‘f there man on for here ho stood, who will now rise up and say that he did not use ‘he Iangnage I have quoted from the report, then | will retract what I said. (A panse and perfect silence.) Sir, no man will de it; and yet he now denies that he ever sald