New Britain Herald Newspaper, July 6, 1921, Page 8

MANY ‘SPORTING EVENTS SCHEDULED AT ST. MARY’S PLAYGRGUND THIS WEEK—JOE FOOTE OVERWHELMS FREDDIE D Nt W BRITAIN DAILY nERALD. WEDINESDAY, JjuLy e, 1921. NLON AT CASINO ALLEYS— | HARPER DEFEATS ANDERSON—BOSTON PLAYERS ENGAGE IN FIST FIGHT—DEMPSEY QUTWITS REFORMERS—“BABE” RUTH HITS HIS 31ST HOME RUN | BRAVES' PLAYERS b HAVE A FIST FIGHT Boeckel and Powell Mix Things Up Aiter Game at Phila. Philadeiphia, July 6.—Philadelphia bunched four hits for as many runs in the eighth inning and defeated Boston yesterday, 6 to 5. During this rally the Phillies drove Watson from the mound. Home runs were made by Powell and Wrightstone. In the ninth inning the Braves made & rally, and would have tied the score but for Powell's attempt to score from second on a short single. He war thrown out at the plate, although Ru dolph was coaching at third base. After the game Boeckel made a re- mark about sending Powell home. The remark resulted in a fist fight between Boeckel and Powell, which lasted for several minutes. Players from both clubs finally managed to separate the | combatants. ‘Boeckel has been in trouble before this year. When the Giants were in ‘Boston early in the season he bump- ed into Ross Young with a decided roughness, put both hands in Young's \face, knocking off his sun glasses and cutting his face. In Brooklyn the oth- er day Otto Miller and Boeckel were in & mixup, for which both were banish ed from the game by the umpire. The score: Boston (N.) ®, CmmmNOTw e ®T Powell, cf .... Barbare, ss Bouthworth, rt Nicholson, 1t . Boeckel, 3b .. Holke, 1b Ford, 2b . O'Neil, ¢ . ‘Watson, p ... McQuillen, p ..... ORHRMR RO RRE - comwowHoOmHO CHHwoNKOMHD Philadelphia (N.) ab. J. Smith, 2b .. LeBourveau, If ich’g, 2b .. 7arkinson, ss RKIng . ....... ‘Wrightstone, 1t 3b. Meusel, rf ... Lee, 1b ‘Williams, cf ... ‘M. Miller,.3D, ss . Pruggy, ¢ . Causey, p - ‘Baumgartner, p . Hubbell, p OO D WO W ocHoHOHOONOOOKOH oHOMHMNDOONMOHOHOD 6 9 27 13 a Batted for Parkinson in eighth in. ning. Poston ........ .100300:00— Philadelphia . 00001104x—6 Two-base hits—Nicholson, Le Bour- veau. ‘Three-base hits—Williams, ‘Wrightstone. Home runs—Powell, ‘Wrightstone. Sacrifices — Barbare, King, Meusel. Double/ plays—Ford Barbare and Holke; Williams and “Bruggy. Left on bases—Boston, 9; Philadelphia, 2. Bases on balls—Off Paumgartner, 5. Hits—Off Causey, 3 in 1 inning; off Baumgartner, 7 in 7 1-3 innings; off Hubbell, 1 in 2-3 in- ning; off Watson, 9 in 7 1-3 inning3s; off McQuillan, none in 2-3 inning. struck out—By Baumgartner, 4; b; ‘Watson, 3. Winning pitcher—Baum gartner. Losing pitched—Watson. Umpire—Brennan and McCormick. Time of game—2 hours. Cards Defeat Pirates. Pittsburgh, July 6.—St. Louis again defeated Pittsburgh vesterday, the score being 8 to 2. Both Yellowhorse and Zinn weh hit hard, while Walk- ¢, proved a puzzle to the Pirates. McHenry knocked a homer in the fourth inning and Hornsby one in the pinth. The score: St. Louis (N.) Smith, rt Fournier, 1b . Stock, 3b Hornsby, 2b . McHenry, 1f . Lavan, ss C'mons, ¢ ... Heathcote, ct ‘Walker, p .. [ X - M 09 0 0 O 99O NOOmOWHMOD PRigbee, 1f ........ Carey, cf .... - Maranville, ss Barnhart, 3b . Robinson, rf . Cutshaw, 2b . Grimm, 1b ... @chmirt, ¢ ... Yellowhorse, p . aRohwer inn, p a Batted for Yellowhorse in the sev- enth inning. 8t. Louis ..........100100114—8 Pittsburgh ........001000010—2 Two-base hits—Hornsby, Fournier. Three-base hits—Smith, Heathcote. Jlome runs—McHenry, Hornsby. Stol- en base—Stock. Sacrifices—Fournier, Maranville, Barnhart, Smith. Double plays—Stock, Hornsby and Fournier; Schmidt, Maranville and Grimm. Left or. bases—St. Louis, 7; Pittsburgh, 8. Bases on balls—Off Walker, 1; off Yellowhorse, 3. Hits—Off Yellow- Yorse, 7 in 7 innings; off Zinn, 6 in 2 innings. Struck out—By Walker, 1; By Yellowhorse, 3. Losing pitcher— Yellowhorse. Umpires—Rigler and Moran. Time of game—1 hour and 35 minutes. Cubs Get the Breaks. . Chicago, July 6.—Chicago got the Preaks in a pitching duel between Cheeves and Rixey and won the final game of the series from Cincinnati yesterday, 3 to 2. Roush made a home sun. The score: tf (N.) ab. r h o a e Tohne, 2b . Daubert, 1b . Groh, 3b .. Roush, cf . Neale, rf Duncan, df . Crane, ss .. Wingo, ¢ Hlargrave, ¢ Rixey, p . cococcorHooe BowMO oMW HG Chicago (N. ® €569 03 0o 1o M i O Flack, rf Kelleher, ss .... Terry, Zb _. Crimes, 1b . Barber, If .. Maisel, cf .. Deal,, 3b ... Killefer, ¢ Cheeves, p Cincinnati Chicago .... Two-base hit—Crane. Three-base hit—Deal. Home run—Roush. Sacri- f.ces—Duncan, Daubert, Rixey. Dou hle plays—Crane, Bohne and Daubert; Kelleher and Grimes. Left on bases— Cincinnati, 6; Chicago, 3. Bases on talls—Off Cheeves, 1; off Rixey, 2. Hit by pitcher—By Rixey, 1 (Barber) Struck out—By Cheeves, 2. Wild pitch Cheeves. Umpires—Klem and Emslie. Time of game—1 hour and 40 minutes. ATHLETES START TRAINING. Harvard Men Commence Work for Meet With Oxford and Cambridge. Cambridge, Mass., July 6.—Jim Tol- bert, the shot puiter, and Fiske Brown, hammer thrower, both of Harvard, re- ported yesterday to Bill Bingham, Har- vard's varsity track coach, and As- sistant Eddie Farrell, and started the Crimson's varsity field event men at work for the Harvard-Yale-Oxford- Cambridge meet on Soldiers field. Tol- bert and Brown both did some hard vork, Tolbert covering 43 feet in his first workout since the intercollegiates. O’Connell, captain of the Harvard team, was expected out but he did not report. The Yale athletes who will work in the stadium with Harvard for the next two weeks did not arrive as expected Assistant Manager John Pharr, Trainer John Mack, Billy Queal and Sid Coe, are at Beach Bluff, Mass., making arrangements for handling the team. Captain Bell and ILand, the New Haven athletes, are on the coast, but the rest of the New Haven men are due to start work at Beach Bluff today Cruickshank will not arrive until Sat- urday, however. Shedden, Yale's seniol hurdler, will train with the squad and will have a trial against Hullman, the freshman hurdler, before the interna- tional meet. Hullman has been better than Shedden all year. GIBBONS IS WILLING. St. Paul Boxer Would Meet Georges Carpentier. Atlantic City, N. J., July 6.—Tom Gibbons has wired that he will en- tertain the offer to meet Carpentier here and Descamps has sent a de- spatch of the same purport. The re- sort men who are behind the pro- posal to have Carpentier and Gib- bons meet declare to both fighters that they will guarantee a $100,000 purse, to be split as the boxers wish. Many prominent hotel men will at- tend the dinner to be given to Jack Dempsey in this city on Thursday night. According to the advance word on that prospective affair, the toastmaster will be a leading citizen who heretofore has been opposed to professional boxing exhibitions but whose views changed after he had witnessed the Dempsey-Carpentier bout. DEMPSEY LEAVES FOR HOME. Champion to Visit Mother in Salt Lake City—Kearns Stays Here. N York, July 6.—Jack Dempsey, world’s heavyweight boxing champion, quietly left his hotel here late yestcr- A~y and a short time later was aboard a train bound for Salt Lake City, Utah. He was accompanied by Teddy Haves, his trainer and Detective Sergeant Mike Trant of Chicago, who has been the champion’s bodyguard and constanu companion since he began training for the bout with Georges Carpentier at Jersey City last Saturday. Jack Ke: ,» Dempsey’'s manager, did not accompany the party. ANSWERS MR. GUENTHER. Please allow me a little space in which to express myself in regards to Mr. Guenther’s communication re- garding the defeat of the Mt. Pleas- ants on Sunday. It appears to me to be a case of sour grapes on his part for he witnessed the game on Sun- day. He surely must have seen the announcement in Friday's ‘papers and ,if he objected to these young men using the Mt. Pleasants name it seems to me he could have pro- tested it before and wot waited until it was too late. I suppose he hates to come out on the small end. I remain, A FAN. TILDEN IIOMEWARD BOUND. New York, July 6.—William T. Til- den, twice winner of the world lawn tennis singles championship, sailed trom England today on board the steamship Olympic, it was announced by officials of the U. S. Lawn Tennis sociation, who said they had re- ceived a cablegram to that effect. Til- den was accompanied by Zenso Shimidzu, the Japanese player. Both expect to enter several matches in this country soon. SAGE PARK RACING. ‘Windsor, Conn., July 6.—Joe John- son won his third iace in two days here yesterday afternoon when he drove Lur .e Bingen to victory in the five heat 2:20 trot. The horses really raced six heats, as one of the heats was declared no contest by the judges because, in their opinion, the drivers did not put forth their best efforts. Electron Dillon won the 2:11 trot and Estabella, with Brus- sle driving, took the 2:20 pace. FOOTE BEATS DONLON Local Bowler Displays Best Form of Scason, Downing Rockville Star 9 Games to 2. A surprise party was held last night at the Casino alleys,. when Freddie Donlon of Rockville encount- ered Joe Foote of this city, in a Con- necticut duckpin tourney match. The Rockville star ran up azainst Joe on a night when the popular “old timer” was feeling fit, and as a result, the up-stater won but two games in elev- en. Donlon considered himself one of the crack bowlers in the state, and the overwhelming victory of the populal iocal star is all the more pleasing to his many friends. It must be admit- ted that Donlon rolled one of the poorest matches he has ever put up in New Britain. In the 12 games rolled, the first clash resulting in a tie at 98 each, the Rockville boy hit be- low the century mark in nine games. Foote on the other hand rung up scores over the three figure mark in seven games. Donlon's total pinsall was 1,160, with a hizh single score of 112. Foote knocked the timbers for a iotal score of 1,221, with a high single of 129. The scores: Foote 98 Donlon ....98 Feote ....105 Donlon ....111 Foote .... 99 110 90 102—1,221 Dcenlon 92 89 89 89—1,160 Fote meets Bill Stokes, the “Grand Old Man” of bowling in Connecti cut, at the Casino alleys tonight. Stokes has shown in this city pre viously this season, and proved b: his work that he still is to be rated 1mong the best in the state. 129 99 95 112 93 92 100 99 97 90 103 100 JOHNSON TO FIGHT AGAIN Former Heavyweight Champion Mcet Harry Wills On Au; Leavenworth, Kas., July 6.—Jack Johnson, former heavyweight pug ilstic champion, will meet Harry Wills for the negro championshiy at Jersey City August 22, it was learned here today. The contes’ oreviously was announced for/Aug ist 20 at New York Johnson, completing a sentence one year in the federal penitentis on a white slave law conviction Seen offered thirty thousand dollars »f the option of a percentage of thr Iross gate receipts for the contest. The former champion’s sentence will expire July 9th. A match against fack Grover of Chicago was ed- ded for that night at Leavenworth ut recently was called off whoy members of the ministers’ alliancc orotested to the mayor. It is understood that after eleased (8] o as beine in the morning on July ¢ fohnson will attend a reception o 'nfertainment here that night anc hen go immediately to Chicago his ‘ormer home. PITCHES NO-HIT GAME. Hartford, July 6.—Miles Thomas New York Americans and a former ?enn State star, pitched a no-hit, no- ‘un game against Springfield yester- lay. Only one player reached sec- nd base and the visitors knocked hut two flys to the outfield. Thomas struck out eleven men. BARRON TG COACH M_ I. C. TEAM Lansing, Mich, July 6.—Albert Barron, former Penn star, yesterday was hall coach at the M college for a three ceed ‘“Potsy’ Clark, who recently re signed, according to an announcement by Athletic Director Chester L. Brewer. —_——— M State footbali celected as feou ichigan Agricultura’ & You: tolier VACATION LAKD of U CANADA Calls In Canada, your Ideal Vacation is realized; Rideau Lakes, Muskola Lakes—Georgian Bay—Iipigon— Quetico—Minaki—Lower St. Law- rence and Maritime Provinces. 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D. 294 Washington Street, Boston, Mass IDEAL SUMMER CLIMATE 1 pitcher farmed out to the Hartford ‘lub of the Eastern league from the i ; e iR l How to Start the Day Wrong ——— R U You GET DRESSED IN THE- MORNING FEELING So FINE You CoulD FIGHT The WHOLE WAR OVER AGAIN T, You SLT pown To A SWELL BREAKEAST WILTH A RUGE APPETITE ~ “C You SELL A CouPLE BonDS oN THE TRAIN MAKE MORE PERFCCT GRAND CIRCUIT RESULTS ‘Pop” Geers, Riding Behind Lillian Silkwood, Wins First Victory Sea- son at North Randall Track. Cleveland, O., July 6.—Eunice Bell, ‘om Murphy's Peter Volo filly had 10 trouble in winning the Fasig sweepstakes for three-year-old trot- _ers, the feature of yesterday's Grand ‘ircuit card at North Randall. Mur- ’hy took the Juvenile out in front n both heats and the result never vas in doubt. Walter Cox's Marge che Great finished second in both niles but the rest of the field never vas close up. The second division of the 2:12 rot finishad the most exciting finish »f the afternoon, the winning horse urning up in Greyworthy, driven by Valter Cox, after four strenuous reats. Linara Watts captured the heat of his race and her backers were re- varded handsomely, a, $2 mutuel icket paying $237.80. Cox got away ourth in this mile and did not drive o the satisfaction of the judges who, ifter the race was decided, fined him §300. After finishing ninth in the first “eat of the 2:16 class race, Abbe Hal von the next two heats and the race. Jessie Riggs, the favorite, finished hird in the first and fourteenth in 2 field of fifteen i1 the second and hen was withdrawn. “Pop” Geers, the veteran Memphis Iriver, drove his first winner of the eason then Lillian Silkwood fin- ished first in the 2:10 class pacing. The mare got out in front in both of her heats and the result was never n doubt. Shawnee, second choice, irst division of the 2:12 class trot in straight heats. George Wats, the ‘avorite, finishing second by winning the third heat by a short margin from Bettie Thcrnton. Greyworthy and Eunice Bell were the only favorites to win. won the ARENA & YINCG EXPLAINED. Due to Fact That Structure Is All Held Together, Builder; Y. New York, July 6.—The swaying of the fight arena structure at Jersey City during the Dempsey-Carpenti fight Saturday waa the subject of ex- planation today by Corneliuz S. and Joseph W. Edwards at their offica at 1 Montgomery street, Jersey City. The Edwarda brothers, who ara brothers of Governor Edwards, built the arena. “The arena structure is absolutely safe,” said Joseph W. Edwards. “Tt was planned by engineers who know all about strensth o! materials. It swayed because it was all held to- gether. We tested the supports by putting on five-ton weights and ob- serving the effect with instruments. The arena is so built that if it were possible to lift it it would hang all together. All buildings will sway. There isn't a chimney in the world that iz well built that won't sway. Tf it would not sway it might fall to pieces. The posts have eight-foot cen- te and are 8 by 10 inches, 10 by 10 inches and 10 by 12 Inches. The only possible chance of any break is in a taulty plank. The building satisfied Building Inspector John Saul, who said “Tesx Rickard is insured, but if there should be an accident responsi- ble city officials would be damned for- ever.” BRYANT AT UNIV. OF MAINE. Orono, Me., July 6.—Athletici at University of Maine will be in charge of a graduate manager beginning next fall, it was announced today. Robert H. Bryant of Biddeford has been se- lected for the position. The graduatoe manager will be responsible to the hletic board, which under the isdiction of the unive . Bryant plaved quarterback on the varsity football team in 1911, and in 1912 directed the team which held Harvard to a 7 to 0 score. OFFIcE You JusT To The DAY ~— = /| e sAme R INJURIES BUT - WHEN You REACK A\o‘u(—i FIND A NOTICE FROM"CE_ REAU OF WAR RISK INSURA /IPNEau?A%nNG A REDUCTION ©OF YouR COMPENSATION FO! WAR, FRom ¢ Go. 9536.00 - NEARLY HALF-- WHILE YouR INJURIES REMAIN N THE 30 MoNTHLY To 7= SEEK GOYERNOR'S SCALP Supt. Crafts of International Reform , Bureau Secks to Impeach Edwards —Dempsey Outwits Reformers. Jersey City, July 6.—Definite ac- tion by the international reform bu- reau in connection with that organ- izations announced intention of ar- resting somebody on account of the Dempsey-Carpentier fight Saturday was looked for today. With Jack Dempsey speeding westward toward his home in Salt Lake City officials of the bureau had small chance of serving a warrant upon the victor- ious champion for assault and battery upon the person of Georges Carpen- tier, as had been threatened. Herbert Clark Gilson, attorney for the reformers, declared yesterday that unless Dempsey presentd him- self in court today he would obtain a set of warrants for the arrest of Jersey City officials as well as state officials, charging them with viola- tion of the crimes act which prohib- its prize fighting in New Jersey. Dr. Wilbur F. Crafts, superintendent of the bureau again maintained that he intended seeking impeachment of Governor Edwards for permitting the bout to be held, but neither he nor Mr. Gilson would make public the names of the officials they expected to have arrested. The bureau Dr. Crafts announced, has its immediate object the pre- vention of fights in the big arena here on Labor Way. What proce- dure will be followed he would not disclose. The bureai maintains that the New Jersey boxing law which they seek to have repealed, does not permit other than boxing exhibitions, and the reformers declare Saturday’s fistic encounter was a “brutal, bloody prize fight.”” GREB’S CLAIMS PRESSED. Manager Engle Wants Pittsburgh Boxer Matched With Carpentier. New York, July 6.—George Engle, who managed Frank Klaus, Pitts- burgh boxer, when the latter defeated Georges Carpentier in 19 rounds of a bout held nine years ago, is now seek- ing to match another American against the Freneh boxer, whose heavyweight title aspirations were knocked into a cocked hat by Demp- sey. Engle is manager of Harry Greb, Pittsburgh light-heavyweight, and is campaigning for a battle between Greb and Carpentier. Engle discussed the_situation with Tex Rickard yes- terday in an attempt to convince the promoter that Greb would make a better opponent for Carpentier than any other light-heavyweight. Rickard promised Engle that his plea would receive du) consideration. ROBS RUTH OF HOMER. Enthusiastic Fan Interferes with Ball That Hits Edge of Stands. New York, July 6.—Baba Ruth would have been credited with two home runs instead of one in the box scores published today had not an enthusiastic fan tried to catch the hall yesterday. Ruth's high drive mingled with the clouds and was de- scending just on the edge of the right- field stands when the fan jumped up and diverted the ball into the field instead of clasping it in his hands. Ruth was on third base but Umpire Connolly sent him back to second un- der the ground rules. Ruth has 31 homers to his credit with New York vet to play three games before reaching the half way mark of the season. At this rate the Yankee slugger would hit at least 64 home runs, ten more than last year. WITH GIANTS. July 6.—Purchase of Outfielder William Cunningham of the Seattle club of the Pacific Coast leagus waa announced teday by tha New York Nationals, By Briggs You waLk o THE STATION FEELING AS LGHT AS A FEATHER~ AND AMBITIOUS WHAT D'You S'POSE AILS HiM ALLVA BASEBALL IN A NUTSHEIL.L NATIONAL LEAGUE. Results Yesterday. St. Louis 8, Pittsburgh Philadelphia 6, Boston Chicago 3, Cincinnati 2. No other games scheduled. Standing of the Clubs. Wen. Lost. 49 25 . 44 26 37 38 37 32 27 20 5. Pittsburgh . New York . Boston St. Louia Brooklyn Chicago Cincinnati Philadelphia Games Today. Brooklyn in New York. Boston in Philadelphia. St. Louis in Pittsburgh. AEIERIC.:LN LEAGUE. Results Yesterday. New York 7, Philadelphia 5. Washington 7, Boston 5 game). Washington 4, game). Cleveland 16, Chicago 4. Detroit 5, St. Louis 2. (first Roston 1 (second Standing of the Clubs. Won. Lost. 43 26 16 28 42 36 38 37 32 39 32 44 29 42 29 44 Cleveland . New York Washington Detroit Boston St. Louis Chicago 5 Philadelphia . Games Today. Detroit in Chicago. ‘Washington in Boston. CONDEMNS BIG BOUT. Head of Spanish Academy 1921, a Day of Brutal Madrid, July 6.—The president of the Spanish Academy, Jose Ortega Munilla, gives his views in the news- paper “A B C on the Dempsey-Car- pentier fight. “The victory of Dempsey over Car- pentier,” he writes, ‘‘constitutes the culmination of triumphant brutality. The 2nd of July, 1921, will be famous in the annals of barbarity. “I'wo men sell their health and dig- nity to a curious multitude which pays them to destroy themselves with punches,”” continues Senor Munilla. *“They do not fight because they hate. Salaried combatants represent the most infamous prostitution, those who specu- late thereon represent the vilest lust, while those attending represent the stupidest cruelties. ““The notable publicity given to this eems to indicate an intention to export similar spectacles to Europe. We lack just that.” ys July 2, Go to M. Irving Jester £40,000 Used Car Sale tonight. 193 Arch St.—advt. INTERNATIONAL LEAGUE. Results Yesterday. Jersey City 6, Newark 4. No other games scheduled. Standing of the Clubs. Won. Lost. P.C. 15 .800 32 ' 593 36 20 38 479 40 459 42 455 42, 432 56 . .263 Baltimore .... Buffalo $ Tochester Toronto Jersey City Newark . Syracuse Reading Games Today. Newark in Syracuse. Jersey City in Toronto. Reading in Buffalo. Baltimore in Rocheste:. EASTERN LEAGUE. \ Results Yesterday. Hartford 3, Springfield 0. Bridgeport 6, Waterbury 1. t New Haven 10, Albany 9 (15: in- nings). Pittsfield 4, Worcester 2. Standing of the Clubs. ‘Won. Lost. P.C. 38 24 -613 34 26 .567 28 .556 30 538 29 525 33 4786 33 459 47 277 Worcester ... Bridgeport New Haven Pittsfield Hartford Springfield Waterbury Albany ... Games Today. Springfield at Hartford. Pittsfield at Worcester. Bridgeport at Waterbury. Albany at New Haven. RUNS FOR WEEK JULY 3—9 National League S'M.T. W. T . - © New York Brooklyn Boston Phil. Pittsburgh Chicago Cincinnati St. Louis - %@ 00 0ma® e o Dot D UK K 0000t M American League S. M. T. W. T. F. S. Ttl. 20 7 4 6 8 5 11 11 17 16 11 6 - g 2 New York Boston Phi Wash'gton Cleveland Detroit Chicago St. Louis Moo e oK K International League S. M. T. W. T. F. S. TtL Baltimore 13 10 x Buffalo 1 Reading Syracuse Rochester Toronto Jer. City Newark 10 12 10 You cant help but .like them! They are DIFFERENT They are GOOD