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HITS LLOYD GEORGE SLUR ON POINCARE Herbert Adams Gibbons Says| ~ Comparison With Lincoln Is Not Fair. 4 By the Associated Press. PRINCETON, N. J Some of David Lloyd George's Ameri- can utterances were challenged last night by Herberi Adams Gibbons, author, war coi../pondent and fov- merly American .ecturer in France for the French foreign affairs min- iatry, In &n addres to the staff ‘of Princaton 17 vorsity's daily paper. “Why sh Lloyd Georgo be v contiasting Poincare with 0 the discredit of the fof< mer?" askrd Mr. Gibbons. The speak- er then pointed out that the’ vecon- struction problems of Lineolp. and the French premier were nat simiflar: that Lincoln had refused 10 accept anything less than uncondi= tlonal surr nder and continued to throw armies into the south until the rebellious states were at the ercy of his generals. He said Lincoln did not adopt a policy of conciliation un- Ul the Confederates had placed them- selves unreservedly In his power, “To present the French as different from ourselves and actuated by a spirit of vengeance does not!appeal o us as a message for 4 statesman of onec friendly nation to bring {0 us concerning another friendly.na- tion. We reject both the andlogy be- tween the civil war and the world war and comrades in “Our spontaneous reception of ene of the great figures of our times must not be Interpreted as an indorsement of what Mr. Lloyd George has said over and over. There Is danger that our distingulshed guest {s deceiving himself on tais point, and if some one dees not speak out plainly ‘1A protest our French and British friends may get the impression we are substin- tlally in accord with his views. Mr. Lioyd George should realize that our sympathis as & nation are SLrORELY with Franc Mr. Gibbons said Mr. Lloyd George had a strange misconception of Amer- ica’s responsibility in the European ation and that no outsider could point @ nation to its duty. America must settle the problem for itself, he said. —— EX-PREMIER PRAISES CARNEGIE PEACE AIM SBURGH, - October 25.—~The vision of Andrew Carnegie of peace among nationus is an opportune one to racall, David Lloyd George, the war- time premier of Great Britain, de- n address here last night. in Syria Mosque to an au. rmagnate as & man who combined with sreat business ability great strength acter and great vision. 1909, he continued, Mr. Carnegie pre- dicted that there war and conceivabl fore the era of peace was reached. part of that prophecy, he d, had been fulfilled by a war ompared tQ" & cataclysm mere than every iman, woman and enild in Pennsylvanis, Maryland and Weat Virginia. “Are we really Eoing to have that again? Mr. Lloyd George asked. " answer depegds more upon two communitles than anvthing great E "nited’ States and the Brit- -speaking commonwealths for a < tlona a world where fear, yessions and national hatreds are at rk, he urged the adoption of a spirit of concillation in the words of the late Sir Henry Campbell Ban- rerman, who as prime minister of Great Britain, when the Boer war was concluded, said: “Do right and you can tr onsequence There commissions and committees being formed in working out a_ peace rope at this time, Mr. Lioyd George declared, but “let's committee of mercy in the A distinctive Welsh character was glven to the meeting by the singing of many Welsh songs In the native tongue. Secretary Davis of the De- partment of Lahor at Washington, who was born in Wales, presided and in introducing the farmer premier Gescribed him as “the outstanding character of the world.” October 25— Office of the Secretary: Custodial scrvice Office of naval records and librar: _Clerical, administrative and Custodial service. o ‘Office of iud;e advocate general Clerical, admi Custodial service Totals. .. d Office of chief of naval operations: Subprofessional service..... Clerical, administrative and fi Custodial service. . A Subprofessional service Clerical, administrative and fisi Custodial service. . CLBRERIE. i Office of naval intelligen Clerical, administrative and fisca Custodial service.. Totals .. o Bureau of navigation: Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service..... Totals. ... Hydrographic office: Professional and scientific service... Subprofessional R Clerical, administfative and fiscal Custodial service.. & Totals Naval Observatory : Professional and scientific service. . Subprofessional service Clerical, administrative Custodial service . Totals. . Bureau of engineering Professional and scientific service Subprofessional service Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service. . bieny TOtES ureau of construction and repai Subprofessional service Clerical, administrative and Custodial service....... dotals. .o Bureau of ordnance fiscal Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service.. 2 Tothla:. ... Seaes Bureau of supplies and accounts Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service. . . Totals S . Bureau of medicine and surgery: Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service............ Totals......... Bureau of yards and docks Subprofessional service Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service Totals..... Bureau of aeronautics: Professional and sci Subprofessional service. ... Clerical, administrative and fiseal Custodial service ehe Totals Marine Corp Clerical, administrative and fiscal service.. Compensation board: Clerical, administrat Custodial service Totals o Board of inspection and survey Professional ¢ and fiscal Custodial service. Totals. Naval examining board Clerical, administrat: Custodial service. Totals General board: Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service. = Totals.... . ¢ and fiscal Clerical, administrative and fiscal service.. tific service 3 and scientific service......... Clerical, administrative and fiscal service. . THE EVENING STAR, WASHINGTON, D. C, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1923.° P @ ot (including the office of the solicitor) : i Professional and scientific service......... strative and fiscal service.. R oNN Swh =32 ol Office of director of naval communications: Professional and scientific service. P (| N NNuxmoo 1 servige. . S ot 1 service.. |ze 1 service.. faes ok e RIEERR ANty Bl CR O Wage i I setvice. . Professional and scientific service.. 1 ser Professional and scientific service.... 1 ser 1 service. . 1 service.. Professional and scientific service 1 service.. 1 service.. S naN wowm [ 1 service. . i oo w n> ooz 1 service.. nioa o) 1 service. —o olna E'maru e B fi]o&: wiwi Slwie - i Totals for the entire Navy Department, by services: Professional and scientific service. Subprofessional service B Clerical, administrative and fiscal Custodial service... Grand totals U. S. Tour Seen Help to “L. 5" In Move to Regain Premiership Coincidence of Visit With American Ges- ture Toward. Reparations. Tangle Likely to.Impress Britain. BY FREDERIC WILLIAM WILE. David Lloyd George will leave for England on Novamber 3 immensely ortified in his ambitions to recapture the British premlership. Hls admir- ers and political constituents believe that “the little Welshman's” month in North America will have material- 1y advanced his fortunes. They pin their confidence mainly on the coin- cidence of the British statesman's presence in the United States and the remewal of America's readiness to sssist in solving the reparations crisis. Both friends and foes of “L. G.” are likely to call it the newpst manifesta- tlon ‘of “Lloyd George luck” that al- most at the moment he was advocat- ing more active American co-opera- tion with Europe ' occasion was tak- en In London to restate the conditions on which it may be had. Ambassador George Harvey’'s farewell speech be- fore the Pilgrims' Soclety amount: in the opinion of Washington diplo- matists, to a new proffer of the United States’ good offices. Harvey’s Speech Timely. The American gover; R sinot. ‘s'::mshed ltihe h:oor“‘"g\fh‘;?x wh?:i retary Hughes, at:New. Haven, Docember, 1955, offereats go- Bt ft has knocked at the door again at a highly psychological moment. Diplo- macy often uses- such speeches as be & cass “the little No. 10 (1t would almost_inevitably of “back from Elba™ for * Welshman.” His path to Downing street would at least be clearer than it h ver beén since he was deposed a year ago. Near East His Downfall. Lloyd George was overthrown by the Bonar Law-Stanley Baldwin con- servatives on the issue of peace or a new war in the near east. situation has passed into ~history now, with little credit to - Great Britain and the allies, and, if “L. G.” is to regain the premfiership, it would be on _entirely different grounds. Some issue directly associated with the burning question of reparations would_be the horse on which “the little Welshman” would ride back to ower. His triumph would not be popular in France, but if It was more or less directly associated with a resumption of American activities in Europe, that would in British estimation more than compensate for the disaffection |of the cross-channel power. = Lloyd George's major “talking point” in the lUnmd States has been an Anglo- i American entente. Foreign dipiomatists and American politicians in Washington are seizing upon the arriyal of Mr. Lloyd George t the capital, at the outset of his fast weskin America, for an apprais- >t his tour. fons differ as to efteotivenets,- depending- more or Ambassador Harvey’s as the media| or representatlons it prefers not to make through foreign offices or em- bassies. Diplomats call such an ut- terance a_ “beau.geste"—a friendly gesture. It is about as far as gov- ernments are accustomed to go with Droposals already once rejected. Mr. Lioyd George's Interest In the test developments is plain. His pporters may be relied upon to suggest that his strong pleas in the United States were manifestly not without effect. He urged from the outset of his tour that we should join hands with a distracted Europe in healing its wounde and caiming ts passion$, and em ized, & 4 less we did, fpeacetul ‘solutions were robal , o men WCGreT more cHtHBEbYES: HaT herents declare that'if he-should re- turn to Great Britain during the secs ond week of November, to find that France had at length decided to ac- cept ughes proposal for an in- e, withsat aMgation of sur pait| froe. klet talnl akaiens Tor B g 1 service..1,551 - ._176 3215 1821 1576 1,050 A 2111 less on the nature of men's prejudices. There is universal agreement that his welcome everywhere has been almost unprecedentedly warm. There are frequent comparisons with the recep- tlon accorded M. Clemenceau last winter, and veually they are In favor of the Welshman. But Lloyd George speaks English like a veteran Ameri- ©an campalgner and has been able on that account to rouse his sudiences to pitches of enthusiasm not Achieved by M. Clemenceau. Limit to His Influemce. Hardly any one thinks the former British premler has actually influ- enced American foreign Jnl ey, de- spite the synchronizing of his mi sionary efforts with the Coolidge ad- ministration’s pronouncement through Ambassador Harvey. Our reparations program is reaffl at's all. On the other principal item In Mr. Lioyd George's American program—that i a closer working arrangement be- tween Britain and the United States— nothing definite, of course, has been accomplished. There {8 a presidential election im- nding in America and there is an rish and a German vote. It is not the season for a cautious Admints- tration, anxious o perpetuate itself, to enter into forelgn ententes of ui derstandings, .no matter how mnone entangling. A3 to the league of n tions, Mr. Lloyd George's subtle ret- erences to the United have made no impression wha n ad- ministration quarters, On the world 1,807 court the British visitor has not touched to any notable extent. The United State government, as was recently indicated at the White House, does not forget that Mr. Lioyd George is an entitrely unofficial per- sonage. It would be a violation of all the proprieties for the adminis tion ta enter into anything but the most informal and unoMcial conver- sations_with the former British pre- mier. s, moreover, an avowed candidate for the leadership of his government, 8¢ Presldent Coolidge and Secretary Hughes, who are both cautlous men, may depended upon to “watch their step” with even more than ordinary elreumspection in con- tact with the brilllant stranger from ‘Wales. (Oopyright, 1923.) —— SHIP BELIEVED SAFE. Radio to Lloyds, Giving Position, Allays Fears for Westmoreland. LONDON, Oc¢tober 25.—The master of the Britlsh steamer Westmoreland, fears for whose safety were felt yester- day, sent & radio message to Lloyds to- his: vessel's position at 1 morning, a8 latitude 49.42 o' north, itude 15.39 west (between 300_and 400 miles oft the Irish coast). was to indicate that steamer has met with no mishap. e LLOYD GEORGE ARRIVES, OPEN DOOR TO PEACE (Continued from First Page.) do to help sts i g p straighten out the European Showing no effects of the Illness that threatened to seriously curtall his tour of the middle west, Lloyd George first placed foot on Washing- ton soil at exactly 9 o'clock this morning when he stepped from his special train in Unlon station. Immo- ely behind him came Dame Mar- garet Llogfl George, Miss Megan Lloyd George, t! charming young daugh- ter, and members of the former prime minister's party. Third Assistant Secretary of State Butler Wright, Counselor Henry Clinton of the British embass! other officials of the Britisi &mbassy were the first to greet him. The military and naval attaches of the British embassy, wearing their flashing uniforms, lent a touch of mil itary splendor to the sceno. A score of wecret wervice men, Washington detectives and station’ palice care fully guarded the distinguished vi itor until he was landed safely at his sulte in the New Willard. Créwds Cheer Ex-Premier. Five hundred enthusiastic men, women and children fillled the east ond of the station concourse and gave the British statesman a vociferous welcome as he emerged from the sta- tion by way of the President's door. Another crowd cheered him as he en- tered his automobile, and the jam around his car became so thick that the machines were delaved five min- utes in starting for the Willard Hotel, A score of automobiles fell in behind the offici: through city. instead of following the ususl di- rect, but less attractive route, down Pennsylvania avenue, the Lioyd George party was taken out to the t side of the Capitol, down Muary- 1and avenue to the Smithsonfan In- stitution, through the Mall, around the Washington Monument, around the tidal basin to the Speedwey, around the Lincoln Memorial to litn street, around the Kllipse to Penn- sylvania avenue and thence to the north entrance of the Willard Hotel. Impressed by Memorials. It probably was the first time such a route had been followed in conduct- ing a state visitor to his hotel, and the idea proved a decided wsuccess. Washington looked its best in the car and followed them How wili the temperature of R R R R R EE— —E———————— e bright, carly morning sun, and Lioyd | President's luncheon, it is expected that | faires Chilton, Admiral Eberle, chiaf of George displayed keen interest in (that ltem will be omitted © L naval “opératfonk Ma). Gen, Jobni L. both the natural beauties and the | quded, besides the members of the cab. | Hines, deputy chief of staff, and C. Bac- man-made adornments he paseed. |inet, Chief Justice Taft, Charge d’Af-|com Slemp, secretary to the President, The Lincoln Memorial shone a shim- = mering white under the bright rays of the sun, and the distinguished visitor turned for a parting glance even after his car had turned out of the grounds toward the Navy Depart- ment. At both entrances of the Willard Hotel large crowds awaited the for-, mer premier, and when his car drew up the enthusiasm of the people car- . ried them past police lines. Before half a dozen officers could stop them the people had completely surrounded the visitors' cars, and It was neces- sary for Lloyd George to practically fight his way, through, every man and - woman seeming bent upon sheking his hand or calling a word of wel- come. On the drive from the station mot | a person, it scemed, falled to recog-} nize the famillar figure of Lloyd George geated In the tonneau of hil‘ special car. Men stopped abruptly! ard doffed their hats, while women waved their handkerchlefs or bowed. The former prime minister answered every salute he noticed by raising his | ihat.” Goifers on the West Potomac Park links stopped their game and: rajsed their clubs in salute, whife soldiers, exercising officers’ horses on the bridal path, came to & rigid at- tention. Lioyd George's first vigltor was Wil- liam Jennings Bryan. When a news- paper man facetiously asked whethar their conversation had been on “eve= lution or prohibition the former | prime _minister said neither had touched upon such “deep” subjects.! He added Mr., Bryan was an old | friend, and he had met him several | times in London. Immediately after i | receiving the Washington newspaper | | correspondents Lloyd George, accom- panied by Miss Megan, his inseparable | conipanion, went on a short shopping | tour beforé the former started for the Department of State. May Omit Call on Taff. ‘This afternoon the program calls for | & visit to Walter Reed Hospital and tea | at the homeo of former President Wil- son. Dame Margaret and thelr daugh- ter are expected to accompany the former premier on both visits. It will be the first meeting between Mr. Wilson and Mr. Lioyd George since the stirring days of 1919, when they were members of the “Big Four” at the Versailles peace conference. 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